Saints' Premier League relegation odds tumble from 40-1 to 4-1

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DEPARTURE: Calum Chambers on his Arsenal debut against Benfica

First published in Sport

From 40-1 to 4-1 – that is how dramatically Saints’ odds for relegation have tumbled this summer.

With a significant number of key players having been sold, as well as the departure of Mauricio Pochettino as manager, the bookies’ faith in the club has rapidly diminished over the past few weeks.

Immediately after the end of last season, one major firm pegged Saints as a 40-1 shot to be demoted to the Championship next May.

Just a day later, following news of bids for Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw, they had tumbled to 16-1.

The decline since then has been fairly constant, with the odds being chipped away at as the same thing has happened to the squad.

The loss of Rickie Lambert, Shaw, Lallana and, most recently, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers has seen Saints’ chances of survival in the bookies’ eyes drop even further.

However, the appointment of Ronald Koeman as manager, along with the arrival of left-back Ryan Bertrand on an initial loan deal last week, following the purchase of playmaker Dusan Tadic and striker Graziano Pelle, coupled with talk of other imminent arrivals, has seen the club’s price stabilise somewhat.

Saints are currently around the 4-1 mark with most major firms, with their decline giving some indication of how challenging a summer it has been at St Mary’s.

But Koeman’s men are far from the favourites for the drop this term.

WILLIAM HILL RELEGATION ODDS: 4/7 Burnley 2/1 QPR, 9/4 Leicester, 5/2 Hull, 11/4 Crystal Palace, 11/4 West Brom, 3/1 Aston Villa, 4/1 SAINTS, 5/1 Sunderland, 5/1 Swansea, 5/1 West Ham, 9/1, Newcastle, 9/1 Stoke, 150/1 Everton, 250/1 Tottenham, 1,000/1 Arsenal , 1,000/1 Liverpool , 1,000/1 Man Utd, 5,000/1 Chelsea, 5,000/1 Man City.

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5:01am Mon 4 Aug 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

See, even the bookies agree with Seed; Les isn't doing it quick enough! Maybe he is posting letters to enquire about players ;)

Come on Mr Reed lets be having a marquee signing in fast. Someone who really shows our intent, someone like Schelotto even. Now that would really impress those bookies and help us attract some quality, lol.

For those that don't get it, my tongue has been firmly in my cheek while typing the above.

Come on Lesley, sort it out!
See, even the bookies agree with Seed; Les isn't doing it quick enough! Maybe he is posting letters to enquire about players ;) Come on Mr Reed lets be having a marquee signing in fast. Someone who really shows our intent, someone like Schelotto even. Now that would really impress those bookies and help us attract some quality, lol. For those that don't get it, my tongue has been firmly in my cheek while typing the above. Come on Lesley, sort it out! Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 10

5:05am Mon 4 Aug 14

singapore saint84 says...

I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds... singapore saint84
  • Score: 21

5:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

cebu blue says...

Worth a punt of a few pesos at 4-1 just incase you do go down. But Koeman looks likely to be your saviour this time.
Worth a punt of a few pesos at 4-1 just incase you do go down. But Koeman looks likely to be your saviour this time. cebu blue
  • Score: -31

5:48am Mon 4 Aug 14

Woolston ollie says...

My mate has just named his new baby after the entire saints squad. Relegation Fodder Smith. Nice ring to it dont you think.
My mate has just named his new baby after the entire saints squad. Relegation Fodder Smith. Nice ring to it dont you think. Woolston ollie
  • Score: -65

6:15am Mon 4 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

Woolston ollie wrote:
My mate has just named his new baby after the entire saints squad. Relegation Fodder Smith. Nice ring to it dont you think.
And yours is . . mr W Ollie
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote: My mate has just named his new baby after the entire saints squad. Relegation Fodder Smith. Nice ring to it dont you think.[/p][/quote]And yours is . . mr W Ollie KSO16R
  • Score: 59

6:16am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl? Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 24

6:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

SiamSaint says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
Why don't you have some horlicks and get a good night's kip?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]Why don't you have some horlicks and get a good night's kip? SiamSaint
  • Score: 35

6:38am Mon 4 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

singapore saint84 wrote:
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.
[quote][p][bold]singapore saint84[/bold] wrote: I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...[/p][/quote]The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money. If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can. one in the crowd
  • Score: -18

6:39am Mon 4 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish.
We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish. Rising_Son
  • Score: 42

6:44am Mon 4 Aug 14

Little Hitler says...

Yup 4/1 but there are 8 teams with shorter odds so does that not mean the think we'll finish mid table.

I get the feeling that we will spend our way to survival in the New Year, should we need to.
Yup 4/1 but there are 8 teams with shorter odds so does that not mean the think we'll finish mid table. I get the feeling that we will spend our way to survival in the New Year, should we need to. Little Hitler
  • Score: 14

6:45am Mon 4 Aug 14

WestAussieSaint says...

one in the crowd wrote:
singapore saint84 wrote:
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.
Quite right, the bookies do often get it right - which is why they think 7 teams are more likely to be relegated if you read the odds above?
4/7 Burnley
2/1 QPR
9/4 Leicester
5/2 Hull
11/4 Crystal Palace
11/4 West Brom
3/1 Aston Villa
4/1 SAINTS
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]singapore saint84[/bold] wrote: I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...[/p][/quote]The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money. If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.[/p][/quote]Quite right, the bookies do often get it right - which is why they think 7 teams are more likely to be relegated if you read the odds above? 4/7 Burnley 2/1 QPR 9/4 Leicester 5/2 Hull 11/4 Crystal Palace 11/4 West Brom 3/1 Aston Villa 4/1 SAINTS WestAussieSaint
  • Score: 22

6:48am Mon 4 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic. Shareholder
  • Score: 27

6:52am Mon 4 Aug 14

Norwegian Saint says...

So whats the odds on us staying up?
I am very confident we are going to be playing in the Premier League during 2015/2016 and far beyond.

On another note... very VERY unhappy at a relative of mine who renewed his season ticket just before we sold the players and has asked for his money back!. The club said no... I am going to have a right go at him when I see him next.
So whats the odds on us staying up? I am very confident we are going to be playing in the Premier League during 2015/2016 and far beyond. On another note... very VERY unhappy at a relative of mine who renewed his season ticket just before we sold the players and has asked for his money back!. The club said no... I am going to have a right go at him when I see him next. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 16

7:08am Mon 4 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Anyone know what odds the bookies are offering for saints to stay up, I wouldn't mind putting some money on it.
Anyone know what odds the bookies are offering for saints to stay up, I wouldn't mind putting some money on it. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 11

7:09am Mon 4 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

one in the crowd wrote:
singapore saint84 wrote:
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.
They didnt get it right last season
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]singapore saint84[/bold] wrote: I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...[/p][/quote]The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money. If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.[/p][/quote]They didnt get it right last season KSO16R
  • Score: 10

7:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

sarfhamton says...

What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered.
What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered. sarfhamton
  • Score: 14

7:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

John Smith34 says...

How about we pull together as a club and as fans and shove these odds right back down their throats!...And prove there is no meltdown and we are not completely falling apart when clearly, others think its going to happen. Lets make St Marys into a cauldron of noise every game this season so other teams hate coming here. As fans lets stick together and show this club will not crumble!. Positivity from now on, starting with Bayer on Saturday! In Koeman we trust COYR!!!!!!!!
How about we pull together as a club and as fans and shove these odds right back down their throats!...And prove there is no meltdown and we are not completely falling apart when clearly, others think its going to happen. Lets make St Marys into a cauldron of noise every game this season so other teams hate coming here. As fans lets stick together and show this club will not crumble!. Positivity from now on, starting with Bayer on Saturday! In Koeman we trust COYR!!!!!!!! John Smith34
  • Score: 16

7:16am Mon 4 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending.
He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message.

Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on.

Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ?

The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs.

Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !!
Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending. He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message. Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on. Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ? The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs. Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

7:26am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

SiamSaint wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
Why don't you have some horlicks and get a good night's kip?
Because it's 4.30 in the arvo mush
[quote][p][bold]SiamSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]Why don't you have some horlicks and get a good night's kip?[/p][/quote]Because it's 4.30 in the arvo mush Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -12

7:30am Mon 4 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending.
He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message.

Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on.

Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ?

The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs.

Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !!
The bookies have not issued a warning. They have simply responded to the amount of money bet on certain outcomes. That's why we are not only 4/1 to get relegated but also 6/4 to finish in the top 10.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending. He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message. Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on. Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ? The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs. Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !![/p][/quote]The bookies have not issued a warning. They have simply responded to the amount of money bet on certain outcomes. That's why we are not only 4/1 to get relegated but also 6/4 to finish in the top 10. Rising_Son
  • Score: 12

7:30am Mon 4 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

The lack of urgency getting decent players, where they are most needed into the club is beginning to worry me. Why are we pi$$ing about with 17yo strikers and a plethora of reject or pretty average midfielders? We have little time left before the start of the season. If I haven't seen some decent signings in the defense and up front by the end of the week I will assume that the club intend to use the transfer money to build a brick wall in front of goal.
The lack of urgency getting decent players, where they are most needed into the club is beginning to worry me. Why are we pi$$ing about with 17yo strikers and a plethora of reject or pretty average midfielders? We have little time left before the start of the season. If I haven't seen some decent signings in the defense and up front by the end of the week I will assume that the club intend to use the transfer money to build a brick wall in front of goal. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

7:31am Mon 4 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Might put a few cheeky £10 bets on West Ham, Sunderland and Swansea then.
Might put a few cheeky £10 bets on West Ham, Sunderland and Swansea then. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

7:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

saint christopher says...

If there's a negative story of doom and gloom we can rest assured the DE will find it somehow. Won a million? Poor show - with another number it could have been 10.

Everything points to a team even now that's more than capable of being top half. However I think we're all agreed that we really need at least a couple of decent signings this week, and however well we do it cannot be denied that our new board has not covered itself in glory during this period, appearing reactive rather than proactive and communicating too little too late.

It's not been nice to see us being burnt whilst those in charge have appeared to be fiddling, and then continue to see us being derided and mocked in every media outlet as a result. There's never smoke without fire, and however much some of us want to believe the best about our club and how it is being run it cannot be denied that much has left a lot to be desired.

Ultimately it's Katarina who is the boss, and I can't believe she can be happy at how things have been handled. What I think is ideally wanted is a statement from her about our future direction etc, however I don't think we'll get it because whatever she said would directly or indirectly be critical of her new board.

Let's hope we can make at least a half-decent start and let actual football take centre stage for a change. Let's also hope we keep an injury-free squad throughout the season, because we've got less depth now than we had before.
If there's a negative story of doom and gloom we can rest assured the DE will find it somehow. Won a million? Poor show - with another number it could have been 10. Everything points to a team even now that's more than capable of being top half. However I think we're all agreed that we really need at least a couple of decent signings this week, and however well we do it cannot be denied that our new board has not covered itself in glory during this period, appearing reactive rather than proactive and communicating too little too late. It's not been nice to see us being burnt whilst those in charge have appeared to be fiddling, and then continue to see us being derided and mocked in every media outlet as a result. There's never smoke without fire, and however much some of us want to believe the best about our club and how it is being run it cannot be denied that much has left a lot to be desired. Ultimately it's Katarina who is the boss, and I can't believe she can be happy at how things have been handled. What I think is ideally wanted is a statement from her about our future direction etc, however I don't think we'll get it because whatever she said would directly or indirectly be critical of her new board. Let's hope we can make at least a half-decent start and let actual football take centre stage for a change. Let's also hope we keep an injury-free squad throughout the season, because we've got less depth now than we had before. saint christopher
  • Score: 10

7:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

donni1437 says...

4 to 1 sounds about right. We needed more squad depth last season and when injuries hit the results showed it. We had relegation form for a while. The current squad looks even weaker so with a few injuries in key areas, cb, gk and up front we could be in trouble. Saying that I expect us to sign a few more players in those areas to strengthen so think we'll be ok.
4 to 1 sounds about right. We needed more squad depth last season and when injuries hit the results showed it. We had relegation form for a while. The current squad looks even weaker so with a few injuries in key areas, cb, gk and up front we could be in trouble. Saying that I expect us to sign a few more players in those areas to strengthen so think we'll be ok. donni1437
  • Score: 4

7:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

John Smith34 wrote:
How about we pull together as a club and as fans and shove these odds right back down their throats!...And prove there is no meltdown and we are not completely falling apart when clearly, others think its going to happen. Lets make St Marys into a cauldron of noise every game this season so other teams hate coming here. As fans lets stick together and show this club will not crumble!. Positivity from now on, starting with Bayer on Saturday! In Koeman we trust COYR!!!!!!!!
We can all cheer as loud as we can but that doesn't make average players into great ones.
[quote][p][bold]John Smith34[/bold] wrote: How about we pull together as a club and as fans and shove these odds right back down their throats!...And prove there is no meltdown and we are not completely falling apart when clearly, others think its going to happen. Lets make St Marys into a cauldron of noise every game this season so other teams hate coming here. As fans lets stick together and show this club will not crumble!. Positivity from now on, starting with Bayer on Saturday! In Koeman we trust COYR!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]We can all cheer as loud as we can but that doesn't make average players into great ones. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 50

7:37am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.
Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 30

7:41am Mon 4 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


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is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

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You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/ one in the crowd
  • Score: -21

7:42am Mon 4 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

We were led to believe some signings were imminent a week ago.

Even now, we only have one pre season game left to try and get new players to gel.

I've said before, I find Kruger untrustworthy and hold reed in similar vein.

I travelled up and down the country supporting us in league 1 and don't wish to repeat the experience. We need some quality signings NOW so pull your finger out reed and get these " 20" scouts we're supposed to have searching for talent to identify the players we need and then bring them in.

If kat does intend selling the club, we have to retain our prem status so come on Saints, bite the bullet and support the manager with the players he needs.
We were led to believe some signings were imminent a week ago. Even now, we only have one pre season game left to try and get new players to gel. I've said before, I find Kruger untrustworthy and hold reed in similar vein. I travelled up and down the country supporting us in league 1 and don't wish to repeat the experience. We need some quality signings NOW so pull your finger out reed and get these " 20" scouts we're supposed to have searching for talent to identify the players we need and then bring them in. If kat does intend selling the club, we have to retain our prem status so come on Saints, bite the bullet and support the manager with the players he needs. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 1

7:55am Mon 4 Aug 14

GerrySaint says...

The odds on Saints being in the top ten are 6/4 meaning the bookies think we have a good chance of making a top ten finish. Not all bad news at all.
The odds on Saints being in the top ten are 6/4 meaning the bookies think we have a good chance of making a top ten finish. Not all bad news at all. GerrySaint
  • Score: 3

8:02am Mon 4 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
See, even the bookies agree with Seed; Les isn't doing it quick enough! Maybe he is posting letters to enquire about players ;)

Come on Mr Reed lets be having a marquee signing in fast. Someone who really shows our intent, someone like Schelotto even. Now that would really impress those bookies and help us attract some quality, lol.

For those that don't get it, my tongue has been firmly in my cheek while typing the above.

Come on Lesley, sort it out!
We all need to be patient, there is still time and we need to buy quality not quantity. Saints are involved in a huge amount of incoming transfer activity. I'm certain that everyone at the club responsible for dealing with this process are working flat out. The bookies this time have got it very wrong. I would like to see them publishing their odds everywhere for a Saints top 10 finish and also a top 8 or better finish. I'm not a betting man but might be tempted to make an exception.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: See, even the bookies agree with Seed; Les isn't doing it quick enough! Maybe he is posting letters to enquire about players ;) Come on Mr Reed lets be having a marquee signing in fast. Someone who really shows our intent, someone like Schelotto even. Now that would really impress those bookies and help us attract some quality, lol. For those that don't get it, my tongue has been firmly in my cheek while typing the above. Come on Lesley, sort it out![/p][/quote]We all need to be patient, there is still time and we need to buy quality not quantity. Saints are involved in a huge amount of incoming transfer activity. I'm certain that everyone at the club responsible for dealing with this process are working flat out. The bookies this time have got it very wrong. I would like to see them publishing their odds everywhere for a Saints top 10 finish and also a top 8 or better finish. I'm not a betting man but might be tempted to make an exception. nomorerumours
  • Score: -3

8:06am Mon 4 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Might put a few cheeky £10 bets on West Ham, Sunderland and Swansea then.
Nice of the DE to cheer us all up on a Monday morning and put a picture of Chambers in his Arse-nil strip just for good measure at the top of the thread.
It does make you wonder where there loyalties lie.

Southampton are also 500/1 to win the PL ( If only! ) with Paddy Power
Wet Spam, Hull, Stoke , WBA, Villa, Palace, Swansea, Sunderland, Leicester, Burnley and QPR are 1000/1
Wouldn't take too much notice of bookies prices until the new signings arrive this week......This week Saints FFS!!!
Might put a few cheeky £10 bets on West Ham, Sunderland and Swansea then. Nice of the DE to cheer us all up on a Monday morning and put a picture of Chambers in his Arse-nil strip just for good measure at the top of the thread. It does make you wonder where there loyalties lie. Southampton are also 500/1 to win the PL ( If only! ) with Paddy Power Wet Spam, Hull, Stoke , WBA, Villa, Palace, Swansea, Sunderland, Leicester, Burnley and QPR are 1000/1 Wouldn't take too much notice of bookies prices until the new signings arrive this week......This week Saints FFS!!! J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

8:08am Mon 4 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

one in the crowd wrote:
You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC)
is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

http://international


championscup.com/
Lambert missed a penalty ha ha ha ha
Jog on you sap
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/[/p][/quote]Lambert missed a penalty ha ha ha ha Jog on you sap J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

8:08am Mon 4 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this. nomorerumours
  • Score: -1

8:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC)
is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

http://international



championscup.com/
Lambert missed a penalty ha ha ha ha
Jog on you sap
He's cut and paste this post from another thread. I really hope Gerrard doesn't fall over at the worst time during the game on the 17th which results in conceding a goal. I really don't.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/[/p][/quote]Lambert missed a penalty ha ha ha ha Jog on you sap[/p][/quote]He's cut and paste this post from another thread. I really hope Gerrard doesn't fall over at the worst time during the game on the 17th which results in conceding a goal. I really don't. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: -2

8:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

spratt says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending.
He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message.

Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on.

Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ?

The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs.

Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !!
Good post. Whatever the eventual outcome is the Board have handled the situation extremely badly. If the Echo wants to do something constructive reprint the statements that were initially made. Would at least give us all a good laugh.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Not surprised and about right with our current squad, but expect the odds to improve when Les Reed finally does the deals that are pending. He must now be finding it difficult because he sold before buying, sending out the wrong message. Should have stopped and told Chambers to stay, but now spending more time trying to keep Morgan & Jay. He has put pressure on himself now and loosing out on most quality players who have been moving on. Hopefully is waiting for Celtic to be knocked out this week for their two we want from them, but what the other four we need. ? The Bookies Warning however is clear, relegation odds will fall further if the incoming players are not of a high quality, as stated about the favorite relegation clubs. Come on Les, only one warm up game left, you are not giving RonKo any support, he will have to bed the new players in through the first few games of the season instead of being prepared. We needed to be winning the opening few games not still team building !![/p][/quote]Good post. Whatever the eventual outcome is the Board have handled the situation extremely badly. If the Echo wants to do something constructive reprint the statements that were initially made. Would at least give us all a good laugh. spratt
  • Score: 5

8:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....jeez this knob is getting desperate.
Ignore and it'll go away
2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....jeez this knob is getting desperate. Ignore and it'll go away J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

8:14am Mon 4 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Rising_Son wrote:
We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish.
Thank you Rising_Son - that makes a mockery of the neggies comments about the 4/1 for the drop. The Echo are responsible for yet more negative reporting when there is so much "promising news" about Saints out there. It looks like we're involved in at least 20 potentially deals. Some of those are pure rumours but many will be true. I'm confident that this will lead to another 5 or 6 quality signings before the window closes and RonKo thinks that 2 or 3 are imminent.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish.[/p][/quote]Thank you Rising_Son - that makes a mockery of the neggies comments about the 4/1 for the drop. The Echo are responsible for yet more negative reporting when there is so much "promising news" about Saints out there. It looks like we're involved in at least 20 potentially deals. Some of those are pure rumours but many will be true. I'm confident that this will lead to another 5 or 6 quality signings before the window closes and RonKo thinks that 2 or 3 are imminent. nomorerumours
  • Score: -1

8:21am Mon 4 Aug 14

keven says...

Id prefer to look at we are only 6/4 to finish top half. My Cups still half full
Id prefer to look at we are only 6/4 to finish top half. My Cups still half full keven
  • Score: 2

8:24am Mon 4 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

I know it means not very much, but the Daily Mail produced a table on Saturday showing Saints at the TOP having won all 5 warm-up games for which they gave us 15 points.

A lot of nonsense but it looked really good!
I know it means not very much, but the Daily Mail produced a table on Saturday showing Saints at the TOP having won all 5 warm-up games for which they gave us 15 points. A lot of nonsense but it looked really good! saintbobby
  • Score: 5

8:25am Mon 4 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish.
Thank you Rising_Son - that makes a mockery of the neggies comments about the 4/1 for the drop. The Echo are responsible for yet more negative reporting when there is so much "promising news" about Saints out there. It looks like we're involved in at least 20 potentially deals. Some of those are pure rumours but many will be true. I'm confident that this will lead to another 5 or 6 quality signings before the window closes and RonKo thinks that 2 or 3 are imminent.
I'm not going to venture an opinion on the need to be positive from here on in. It's time for action or inaction on the clubs part to dictate the outcome. I have supported Saints for nearly 20 years and always will.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: We're also 6/4 for a top 10 finish.[/p][/quote]Thank you Rising_Son - that makes a mockery of the neggies comments about the 4/1 for the drop. The Echo are responsible for yet more negative reporting when there is so much "promising news" about Saints out there. It looks like we're involved in at least 20 potentially deals. Some of those are pure rumours but many will be true. I'm confident that this will lead to another 5 or 6 quality signings before the window closes and RonKo thinks that 2 or 3 are imminent.[/p][/quote]I'm not going to venture an opinion on the need to be positive from here on in. It's time for action or inaction on the clubs part to dictate the outcome. I have supported Saints for nearly 20 years and always will. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: -4

8:33am Mon 4 Aug 14

bbb001 says...

Who cares?
Who cares? bbb001
  • Score: 0

8:41am Mon 4 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

Shareholder wrote:
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
Whats the odds on?:
All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League?
Season ticket sales being up /down on last season?
Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)?
Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'?
Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out?

Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Whats the odds on?: All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League? Season ticket sales being up /down on last season? Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)? Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'? Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out? Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF). lowe esteem
  • Score: -4

8:52am Mon 4 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

all bets off by xmas .
all bets off by xmas . SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 1

9:00am Mon 4 Aug 14

Shrewdsaint says...

sarfhamton wrote:
What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered.
Oddschecker, who combine all the bookies have us 11th. DE picked the worst odds, doomongers.
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered.[/p][/quote]Oddschecker, who combine all the bookies have us 11th. DE picked the worst odds, doomongers. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 6

9:08am Mon 4 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
Whats the odds on?:
All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League?
Season ticket sales being up /down on last season?
Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)?
Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'?
Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out?

Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).
No idea.

You tell me, since you clearly think you know the answer.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Whats the odds on?: All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League? Season ticket sales being up /down on last season? Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)? Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'? Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out? Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).[/p][/quote]No idea. You tell me, since you clearly think you know the answer. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 3

9:28am Mon 4 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
singapore saint84 wrote:
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.
You should consider joining Wums anonymous at the same time Search.
You need help.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]singapore saint84[/bold] wrote: I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...[/p][/quote]The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money. If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.[/p][/quote]You should consider joining Wums anonymous at the same time Search. You need help. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

9:38am Mon 4 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself!

The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve
I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself! The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -4

9:43am Mon 4 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself!

The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve
There's absolutely no problem with them doing that unless, of course, someone decides to write it up as a study in an academic journal. Then it would be unethical.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself! The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve[/p][/quote]There's absolutely no problem with them doing that unless, of course, someone decides to write it up as a study in an academic journal. Then it would be unethical. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:44am Mon 4 Aug 14

sarfhamton says...

Shrewdsaint wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered.
Oddschecker, who combine all the bookies have us 11th. DE picked the worst odds, doomongers.
Of course becuase they are anti- Saints for some reason
[quote][p][bold]Shrewdsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: What a stupid article, when you actually read the thing it should say "Bookies think Saints will finish 13th". Well I think most of us would take that now of offered.[/p][/quote]Oddschecker, who combine all the bookies have us 11th. DE picked the worst odds, doomongers.[/p][/quote]Of course becuase they are anti- Saints for some reason sarfhamton
  • Score: -1

9:54am Mon 4 Aug 14

Dorssaints says...

Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article.
Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article. Dorssaints
  • Score: -2

10:04am Mon 4 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

The odds simply reflect the fact that people jump on the bandwagon and look for value in their bets. Clearly in recent weeks a few people have thought betting on Saints to be relegated could make them some money because the odds were long thus, because our performance next season is so unknown, they might get a good return.

The fall in the odds shows that bookies want to make the bet unpopular, so they cover off the risk. What you'll find now is that very few people will bet on Saints to get relegated because the bet now offers no value, so the price will drift.

Betting prices, unless very, very short or based on nailed on insider knowledge, are based purely on speculation, not expert knowledge.

Can the Echo print our odds to be relegated when Pochetinno was first appointed please? The armchair experts don't have a great record when it comes to betting on our demise.
The odds simply reflect the fact that people jump on the bandwagon and look for value in their bets. Clearly in recent weeks a few people have thought betting on Saints to be relegated could make them some money because the odds were long thus, because our performance next season is so unknown, they might get a good return. The fall in the odds shows that bookies want to make the bet unpopular, so they cover off the risk. What you'll find now is that very few people will bet on Saints to get relegated because the bet now offers no value, so the price will drift. Betting prices, unless very, very short or based on nailed on insider knowledge, are based purely on speculation, not expert knowledge. Can the Echo print our odds to be relegated when Pochetinno was first appointed please? The armchair experts don't have a great record when it comes to betting on our demise. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

10:16am Mon 4 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.
I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.[/p][/quote]I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 6

10:17am Mon 4 Aug 14

donni1437 says...

Dorssaints wrote:
Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article.
I think people are missing the point that the bookies have our odds moving adversely for saints in all markets, it's only natural after the players in and out. They could have reported the odds of us finishing top half lengthen, but of course picked the headline grabbing market, that's how the media works.

The board have made us easy pickings at the moment, once the season starts I hope it quiets down.
[quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article.[/p][/quote]I think people are missing the point that the bookies have our odds moving adversely for saints in all markets, it's only natural after the players in and out. They could have reported the odds of us finishing top half lengthen, but of course picked the headline grabbing market, that's how the media works. The board have made us easy pickings at the moment, once the season starts I hope it quiets down. donni1437
  • Score: 2

10:24am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 16

10:28am Mon 4 Aug 14

SaintsFan97 says...

If the transfer window closed today my prediction for bottom 3 would be West Brom, Leicester and then I'm struggling decide between QPR and Villa. I reckon Burnley will be the best of the promoted teams.

Then again, I predicted Norwich to finish 11th last season.
If the transfer window closed today my prediction for bottom 3 would be West Brom, Leicester and then I'm struggling decide between QPR and Villa. I reckon Burnley will be the best of the promoted teams. Then again, I predicted Norwich to finish 11th last season. SaintsFan97
  • Score: 0

10:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.
I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.
You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway.
Another fake fan who cannot face reality
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.[/p][/quote]I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.[/p][/quote]You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway. Another fake fan who cannot face reality Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 25

10:38am Mon 4 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK nomorerumours
  • Score: 5

10:40am Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Shareholder wrote:
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
Agree crap reporting yet again and people pay for the crap paper.
Editor is a wa@@er!!
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Agree crap reporting yet again and people pay for the crap paper. Editor is a wa@@er!! reedhunter1
  • Score: 3

10:43am Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself!

The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve
Great I agree usual daily echo crap sack the editor
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: I've posted this on the other thread but it probably applies even more to this ridiculous article so I make no apologies for repeating myself! The Daily Echo is playing everybody here! What has possibly changed since last night - nothing. They change the mood on this forum like the wind through two biased and negative articles, deliberately aimed at getting a reaction. I will eat humble pie if proved but wrong but please everybody - hold your nerve[/p][/quote]Great I agree usual daily echo crap sack the editor reedhunter1
  • Score: 1

10:50am Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Dorssaints wrote:
Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article.
Totally agree crap reporting yet again move on think the editor is a skate-how can the daily echo carry on reporting on the gloom get behind ya team ya skate t@@ts
[quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Really bored with teh anti-Saints articles from the DE at the moment. Time for club and paper to move on. Can you really see us below Villa, Burnley and QPR? Add to the mix Leicester and Palace and we should be safe. Riciculous article.[/p][/quote]Totally agree crap reporting yet again move on think the editor is a skate-how can the daily echo carry on reporting on the gloom get behind ya team ya skate t@@ts reedhunter1
  • Score: -6

10:54am Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

saint christopher wrote:
If there's a negative story of doom and gloom we can rest assured the DE will find it somehow. Won a million? Poor show - with another number it could have been 10.

Everything points to a team even now that's more than capable of being top half. However I think we're all agreed that we really need at least a couple of decent signings this week, and however well we do it cannot be denied that our new board has not covered itself in glory during this period, appearing reactive rather than proactive and communicating too little too late.

It's not been nice to see us being burnt whilst those in charge have appeared to be fiddling, and then continue to see us being derided and mocked in every media outlet as a result. There's never smoke without fire, and however much some of us want to believe the best about our club and how it is being run it cannot be denied that much has left a lot to be desired.

Ultimately it's Katarina who is the boss, and I can't believe she can be happy at how things have been handled. What I think is ideally wanted is a statement from her about our future direction etc, however I don't think we'll get it because whatever she said would directly or indirectly be critical of her new board.

Let's hope we can make at least a half-decent start and let actual football take centre stage for a change. Let's also hope we keep an injury-free squad throughout the season, because we've got less depth now than we had before.
Great post daily echo and editors usual crap and dribble.
Why not get behind the team and say saints are 6/4 to finish in top ten-why I'll tell you why yet again it's gutter reporting that's why the editor is a skate and lives in Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: If there's a negative story of doom and gloom we can rest assured the DE will find it somehow. Won a million? Poor show - with another number it could have been 10. Everything points to a team even now that's more than capable of being top half. However I think we're all agreed that we really need at least a couple of decent signings this week, and however well we do it cannot be denied that our new board has not covered itself in glory during this period, appearing reactive rather than proactive and communicating too little too late. It's not been nice to see us being burnt whilst those in charge have appeared to be fiddling, and then continue to see us being derided and mocked in every media outlet as a result. There's never smoke without fire, and however much some of us want to believe the best about our club and how it is being run it cannot be denied that much has left a lot to be desired. Ultimately it's Katarina who is the boss, and I can't believe she can be happy at how things have been handled. What I think is ideally wanted is a statement from her about our future direction etc, however I don't think we'll get it because whatever she said would directly or indirectly be critical of her new board. Let's hope we can make at least a half-decent start and let actual football take centre stage for a change. Let's also hope we keep an injury-free squad throughout the season, because we've got less depth now than we had before.[/p][/quote]Great post daily echo and editors usual crap and dribble. Why not get behind the team and say saints are 6/4 to finish in top ten-why I'll tell you why yet again it's gutter reporting that's why the editor is a skate and lives in Portsmouth. reedhunter1
  • Score: -4

11:00am Mon 4 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
He's probably an Echo "plant" deliberately posting inflammatory material. It wouldn't be the frist time, would it Mr Kerins?
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK[/p][/quote]He's probably an Echo "plant" deliberately posting inflammatory material. It wouldn't be the frist time, would it Mr Kerins? Ozmosis
  • Score: 5

11:07am Mon 4 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

one in the crowd wrote:
singapore saint84 wrote:
I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...
The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.
I think you will find they made skunt favourites for promo last season. That's how invariably right they are.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]singapore saint84[/bold] wrote: I would think burnley, leicester and aston villa for the drop...and theres a whole lot of other teams that have not brought quality players into the team like crystal palace and liverpool....so the saints dont have to worry...we will beat the odds...[/p][/quote]The Bookies aren't fools , they invariably get it right , that's why they make lots of money. If you think otherwise, might I suggest you consider joining Gamblers Anonymous as soon as you possibly can.[/p][/quote]I think you will find they made skunt favourites for promo last season. That's how invariably right they are. Clever Dick
  • Score: -8

11:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Dear Echo

Can you also please remove the annoying 'Adam clear favourite for award' article teaser on your sports page - it's getting a tiny bit old news, unless it is an award for being crocked bench warmer of the year.
Dear Echo Can you also please remove the annoying 'Adam clear favourite for award' article teaser on your sports page - it's getting a tiny bit old news, unless it is an award for being crocked bench warmer of the year. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

11:12am Mon 4 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

one in the crowd wrote:
You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC)
is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

http://international


championscup.com/
That's when you'll be getting a proper match instead of a pre season warm up. How's Lambert playing by the way.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/[/p][/quote]That's when you'll be getting a proper match instead of a pre season warm up. How's Lambert playing by the way. Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

11:12am Mon 4 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

one in the crowd wrote:
You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC)
is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

http://international


championscup.com/
That's when you'll be getting a proper match instead of a pre season warm up. How's Lambert playing by the way.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/[/p][/quote]That's when you'll be getting a proper match instead of a pre season warm up. How's Lambert playing by the way. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

11:24am Mon 4 Aug 14

localnews says...

Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard
Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard localnews
  • Score: -1

11:35am Mon 4 Aug 14

SouthamptonBoy65 says...

Here goes the DE again! Wouldn't it be nice if the local paper was part of the journey and supported their local team. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but this petulant, sniping drivel is well, just pathetic! Even more so when it interprets numbers to its own end rather than give a balanced analysis.

Read this from The Ugly Inside

http://www.fansnetwo
rk.co.uk/football/so
uthampton/news/35595
/

SB
Here goes the DE again! Wouldn't it be nice if the local paper was part of the journey and supported their local team. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but this petulant, sniping drivel is well, just pathetic! Even more so when it interprets numbers to its own end rather than give a balanced analysis. Read this from The Ugly Inside http://www.fansnetwo rk.co.uk/football/so uthampton/news/35595 / SB SouthamptonBoy65
  • Score: 3

11:56am Mon 4 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

We are not generally happy about all the transfers out but Swansea have also suffered something similar & out of 10 of their Spanish players gone and not for shed loads of money
Safe bets this season
Liverpool to finish outside the top 4
Spurs to finish 8th or lower
Chelsea to win the title
Liverpool to win Europa League after early exit from CL
Saints to introduce at least 2 young England players to the PL
We are not generally happy about all the transfers out but Swansea have also suffered something similar & out of 10 of their Spanish players gone and not for shed loads of money Safe bets this season Liverpool to finish outside the top 4 Spurs to finish 8th or lower Chelsea to win the title Liverpool to win Europa League after early exit from CL Saints to introduce at least 2 young England players to the PL Saintsayer II
  • Score: 3

11:57am Mon 4 Aug 14

deepheat says...

For sure it is going to be a tough season but we are in a better position than most who finished below us last season and who are rebuilding for the coming season.

Money spent on transfers so far by clubs that finished below us:-

Aston Villa

Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0

Burnley

Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m

Crystal Palace

Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000

Hull City

Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m

Leicester City

Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m

Newcastle

Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m

QPR

Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m

Stoke City

Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m

Sunderland

Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m

Swansea City

Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m

West Bromwich

Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m

West Ham

Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m
For sure it is going to be a tough season but we are in a better position than most who finished below us last season and who are rebuilding for the coming season. Money spent on transfers so far by clubs that finished below us:- Aston Villa Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0 Burnley Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m Crystal Palace Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000 Hull City Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m Leicester City Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m Newcastle Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m QPR Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m Stoke City Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m Sunderland Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m Swansea City Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m West Bromwich Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m West Ham Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m deepheat
  • Score: 6

12:00pm Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

SouthamptonBoy65 wrote:
Here goes the DE again! Wouldn't it be nice if the local paper was part of the journey and supported their local team. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but this petulant, sniping drivel is well, just pathetic! Even more so when it interprets numbers to its own end rather than give a balanced analysis.

Read this from The Ugly Inside

http://www.fansnetwo

rk.co.uk/football/so

uthampton/news/35595

/

SB
100% agree just another crap story and yet again the daily echo getting at the saints.
Editor is a Portsmouth skate-sack the editor.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonBoy65[/bold] wrote: Here goes the DE again! Wouldn't it be nice if the local paper was part of the journey and supported their local team. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but this petulant, sniping drivel is well, just pathetic! Even more so when it interprets numbers to its own end rather than give a balanced analysis. Read this from The Ugly Inside http://www.fansnetwo rk.co.uk/football/so uthampton/news/35595 / SB[/p][/quote]100% agree just another crap story and yet again the daily echo getting at the saints. Editor is a Portsmouth skate-sack the editor. reedhunter1
  • Score: -5

12:05pm Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Ozmosis wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
He's probably an Echo "plant" deliberately posting inflammatory material. It wouldn't be the frist time, would it Mr Kerins?
Yea agree with you.At this time you must question the editor and the job he is doing.
Look at the news of the world??
Take a good look at the stories this LOCAL paper prints-I suggest we have a look at where the editor lives as clearly there's a massive problem.
If I were the saints I'd ban them for life as if this is what they are writing then it's dribble we don't want to hear.
SACK THE EDITOR
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK[/p][/quote]He's probably an Echo "plant" deliberately posting inflammatory material. It wouldn't be the frist time, would it Mr Kerins?[/p][/quote]Yea agree with you.At this time you must question the editor and the job he is doing. Look at the news of the world?? Take a good look at the stories this LOCAL paper prints-I suggest we have a look at where the editor lives as clearly there's a massive problem. If I were the saints I'd ban them for life as if this is what they are writing then it's dribble we don't want to hear. SACK THE EDITOR reedhunter1
  • Score: 8

12:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

localnews wrote:
Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard
Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth.
Your only get crap from this paper.

SACK THE EDITOR
[quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard[/p][/quote]Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth. Your only get crap from this paper. SACK THE EDITOR reedhunter1
  • Score: -2

12:32pm Mon 4 Aug 14

SnapperSaint says...

one in the crowd wrote:
You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet.


The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC)
is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain.

Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ).

http://international


championscup.com/
So Search, when we have visited Anfield and walked away with a result, will you cease your obsession with our club and this comments page?
We are all well aware of the situation with OUR club, we don't need Liverhampton supporters to keep poking their noses in, and in any case, we have the Daily Echo to feed us plenty of negativity and blindingly obvious reporting!
So thanks, but find your own space to play in...
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: You have due cause to worry , a week next Sunday we'll be seeing you at Anfield and I believe you haven't got a full team yet. The 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) is a friendly association football tournament played in the United States and Canada. It began on Thursday, 24 July 2014 when Olympiacos defeated Milan 3–0 at BMO Field in Toronto, and will end on Monday, 4 August 2014 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. This tournament follows the 2013 edition and will be staged throughout the United States, with one match being held in Canada (Toronto). The participating teams are Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United of England, Milan, Internazionale and Roma of Italy, Olympiacos of Greece and defending champions Real Madrid of Spain. Incidentally Liverpool are through to the final of the 2014 International Champions Cup (or ICC) after beating AC Milan, and are playing Man United in the final. This will be a warn-up game for when we see you on Sunday 17th August at Anfield ( incidentally will your new manager be playing that day, if you haven't filled all the team positions ). http://international championscup.com/[/p][/quote]So Search, when we have visited Anfield and walked away with a result, will you cease your obsession with our club and this comments page? We are all well aware of the situation with OUR club, we don't need Liverhampton supporters to keep poking their noses in, and in any case, we have the Daily Echo to feed us plenty of negativity and blindingly obvious reporting! So thanks, but find your own space to play in... SnapperSaint
  • Score: 3

12:42pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post .
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK[/p][/quote]That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post . Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 35

12:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

reedhunter1 wrote:
localnews wrote:
Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard
Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth.
Your only get crap from this paper.

SACK THE EDITOR
You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much.
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard[/p][/quote]Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth. Your only get crap from this paper. SACK THE EDITOR[/p][/quote]You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 39

12:46pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

It will drop even further if we don't bring in some new players soon, particularly in defence.
What happened to these signingps RK said would be sorted over the weekend? Obviously not plain sailing.
I think the first month will be telling for Saints if we have a bad start it could be a relegation battle again!
It will drop even further if we don't bring in some new players soon, particularly in defence. What happened to these signingps RK said would be sorted over the weekend? Obviously not plain sailing. I think the first month will be telling for Saints if we have a bad start it could be a relegation battle again! Chapperall
  • Score: 0

12:57pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Pooley says...

cebu blue wrote:
Worth a punt of a few pesos at 4-1 just incase you do go down. But Koeman looks likely to be your saviour this time.
Looking a this post not even the Philippines is a skate free zone :(
[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Worth a punt of a few pesos at 4-1 just incase you do go down. But Koeman looks likely to be your saviour this time.[/p][/quote]Looking a this post not even the Philippines is a skate free zone :( Pooley
  • Score: -3

1:14pm Mon 4 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post .
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ALMOST ALWAYS USES RUDE LANGUAGE AND INSULTING COMMENTS WHICH I HATE - IT SHOWS YOUR EXTRAORDINARY IMMATURITY . YES - I'M HAPPY TO BE REPORTED TO THE ECHO BY YOU - PERHAPS THIS WILL FINALLY GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK[/p][/quote]That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post .[/p][/quote]YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ALMOST ALWAYS USES RUDE LANGUAGE AND INSULTING COMMENTS WHICH I HATE - IT SHOWS YOUR EXTRAORDINARY IMMATURITY . YES - I'M HAPPY TO BE REPORTED TO THE ECHO BY YOU - PERHAPS THIS WILL FINALLY GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE. nomorerumours
  • Score: 4

1:17pm Mon 4 Aug 14

couzzy33 says...

Not going to happen but just for the reason that there are other teams in this league who are poor/worse than us (at present). Lets hope we can pull a couple of grade A signings in and it will all look rosier.

Re the possible sale, I'm at the stage where I hope they do it. The last 5 years have been incredible but all good things have to come to an end and having had 4 years of security I think the fans deserve to have that continuity. Whatever happens and however much they wind me up on a daily basis they will always be the one club that's constant.

UTS
Not going to happen but just for the reason that there are other teams in this league who are poor/worse than us (at present). Lets hope we can pull a couple of grade A signings in and it will all look rosier. Re the possible sale, I'm at the stage where I hope they do it. The last 5 years have been incredible but all good things have to come to an end and having had 4 years of security I think the fans deserve to have that continuity. Whatever happens and however much they wind me up on a daily basis they will always be the one club that's constant. UTS couzzy33
  • Score: -2

1:22pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

would these be the same bookies that had the Skates as odds on favorites to 'rip up' league two and bounce straight back up to League one?

just saying.....

not only that, consider this:
how do the bookies make their money? by people putting money on bets that don't come off...... so is not then inconceivable that said bookies might lean towards possibly playing around a little bit with certain bets that might, at the moment before a ball has even be kicked, look like they might happen if you were to be silly enough to believe anything you read in the media....?

I mean seriously.... who puts a bet on before the season has even started? unless its something like a 1p accy that would return bajillions if it comes off
find the salt cellar, extend your hand and take a large pinch of salt THEN read the story.

it's in the bookies interests to make money so what do you think they are going to do based on what's being going on in the media?
would these be the same bookies that had the Skates as odds on favorites to 'rip up' league two and bounce straight back up to League one? just saying..... not only that, consider this: how do the bookies make their money? by people putting money on bets that don't come off...... so is not then inconceivable that said bookies might lean towards possibly playing around a little bit with certain bets that might, at the moment before a ball has even be kicked, look like they might happen if you were to be silly enough to believe anything you read in the media....? I mean seriously.... who puts a bet on before the season has even started? unless its something like a 1p accy that would return bajillions if it comes off find the salt cellar, extend your hand and take a large pinch of salt THEN read the story. it's in the bookies interests to make money so what do you think they are going to do based on what's being going on in the media? Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: -5

1:31pm Mon 4 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
Whats the odds on?:
All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League?
Season ticket sales being up /down on last season?
Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)?
Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'?
Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out?

Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).
No idea.

You tell me, since you clearly think you know the answer.
Do I? How do you work that out?
I'm probably as confused as you sound.
But then you've probably decided which way to aim your barbed pen, once you've clued up whether I'm 'Veggie Neg' or 'Happy Clapper' *
But thanks anyway for contributing with your telling and insightful input.
Like a lot of others, it's easy to denigrate someone else's efforts without saying anything yourself, isn't it?
This article has generated a good response, and within those responses you can see that many do not understand how bookies odds work, and how public opinion can work in much the same way. That for me, justifies the inclusion of this report (IMO)
* (As it happens I do represent the Provisional breakaway Wing of the Non- Plebite Cerebral Fence Sitting Hagiologists Division -formers of our own opinions)
Meanwhile, can I ask (or tell) Southampton FC to stop fannying around, and get some decent players in quick, you know, so's they can start to play as a team, before it's too late?
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Whats the odds on?: All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League? Season ticket sales being up /down on last season? Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)? Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'? Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out? Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).[/p][/quote]No idea. You tell me, since you clearly think you know the answer.[/p][/quote]Do I? How do you work that out? I'm probably as confused as you sound. But then you've probably decided which way to aim your barbed pen, once you've clued up whether I'm 'Veggie Neg' or 'Happy Clapper' * But thanks anyway for contributing with your telling and insightful input. Like a lot of others, it's easy to denigrate someone else's efforts without saying anything yourself, isn't it? This article has generated a good response, and within those responses you can see that many do not understand how bookies odds work, and how public opinion can work in much the same way. That for me, justifies the inclusion of this report (IMO) * (As it happens I do represent the Provisional breakaway Wing of the Non- Plebite Cerebral Fence Sitting Hagiologists Division -formers of our own opinions) Meanwhile, can I ask (or tell) Southampton FC to stop fannying around, and get some decent players in quick, you know, so's they can start to play as a team, before it's too late? lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
reedhunter1 wrote:
localnews wrote:
Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard
Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth.
Your only get crap from this paper.

SACK THE EDITOR
You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much.
Look at the crap he lets his reporters right-why can't he get them to write saints 6/4 to finish in top 10 no he as the editor lets this crap appear putting more pressure in our club and winding up the true saints fans.
And for the record no I wasn't an ex girlfriend but I do know that Ian Murry(editor) lives in Portsmouth so don't expect any favours.

I do suggest how ever you do your home work then your see why clubs are broken by outrageous editors and reporters!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard[/p][/quote]Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth. Your only get crap from this paper. SACK THE EDITOR[/p][/quote]You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much.[/p][/quote]Look at the crap he lets his reporters right-why can't he get them to write saints 6/4 to finish in top 10 no he as the editor lets this crap appear putting more pressure in our club and winding up the true saints fans. And for the record no I wasn't an ex girlfriend but I do know that Ian Murry(editor) lives in Portsmouth so don't expect any favours. I do suggest how ever you do your home work then your see why clubs are broken by outrageous editors and reporters!!! reedhunter1
  • Score: 5

1:57pm Mon 4 Aug 14

jaydejay says...

Great! Saints will go down and i will win money! Double bubble!!!
Great! Saints will go down and i will win money! Double bubble!!! jaydejay
  • Score: 2

3:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.
I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.
You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway.
Another fake fan who cannot face reality
When in my sentence did I mention that I was happy with the sale of Chambers, unfortunately I am not in charge of transfers at Southampton Football Club, I will support the team whoever plays at right back, COYR+WS, oh reality has just dawned on me Poopey are in div 2, now that is something I am happy about.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.[/p][/quote]I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.[/p][/quote]You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway. Another fake fan who cannot face reality[/p][/quote]When in my sentence did I mention that I was happy with the sale of Chambers, unfortunately I am not in charge of transfers at Southampton Football Club, I will support the team whoever plays at right back, COYR+WS, oh reality has just dawned on me Poopey are in div 2, now that is something I am happy about. THE12THMAN
  • Score: -1

3:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.
I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.
You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway.
Another fake fan who cannot face reality
When in my sentence did I mention that I was happy with the sale of Chambers, unfortunately I am not in charge of transfers at Southampton Football Club, I will support the team whoever plays at right back, COYR+WS, oh reality has just dawned on me Poopey are in div 2, now that is something I am happy about.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Love the picture of chambers in the arsenal strip.this board showed their true colours when they sold him.some say he wanted to go but he is only 19 and should have been told to no not yet.we got peanuts for him,give it 1 season and then see what he is worth.[/p][/quote]I bet you wish you had some players to sell, to help clear your debts, oh I forgot you haven't got any that anyone wants to buy, never mind.[/p][/quote]You were happy chambers went then? Course you were ,you were probably one of the d icks saying clyne was better anyway. Another fake fan who cannot face reality[/p][/quote]When in my sentence did I mention that I was happy with the sale of Chambers, unfortunately I am not in charge of transfers at Southampton Football Club, I will support the team whoever plays at right back, COYR+WS, oh reality has just dawned on me Poopey are in div 2, now that is something I am happy about. THE12THMAN
  • Score: -4

4:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

hamblepoint says...

I placed a £10 bet at Corals in Fareham for the Saints to finish in the top four this coming season. Last season for the same bet the odds were 200/1.Last week when I placed the bet they were 66/1?
I placed a £10 bet at Corals in Fareham for the Saints to finish in the top four this coming season. Last season for the same bet the odds were 200/1.Last week when I placed the bet they were 66/1? hamblepoint
  • Score: 1

4:46pm Mon 4 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

jaydejay wrote:
Great! Saints will go down and i will win money! Double bubble!!!
Ian Murry the editor wrote this !!!
[quote][p][bold]jaydejay[/bold] wrote: Great! Saints will go down and i will win money! Double bubble!!![/p][/quote]Ian Murry the editor wrote this !!! reedhunter1
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.
Whats the odds on?:
All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League?
Season ticket sales being up /down on last season?
Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)?
Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'?
Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out?

Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).
I am most definitely not scraping the bottom of the barrel - I haven't got down to you yet! 😃
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: What a thoroughly pointless article! The Echo really is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one - is there no end to their quest for a negative story? Keeps all the doom and gloom merchants happy and nothing else. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]Whats the odds on?: All our Mutineers actually playing in the Champions League? Season ticket sales being up /down on last season? Our 'leading' scorer emulating our £4m mutineer (ahh, he's a nice scouse, give him a transfer...)? Les Reed spending all the transfer income, as 'hinted'? Les Reed telling the truth- ie no more players out? Saints are -despite their 'wealth' -"scraping the barrel, Mr Shareholder, so suggest you stop trying to shoot the messenger, and carry on with your Share Holding (WTF).[/p][/quote]I am most definitely not scraping the bottom of the barrel - I haven't got down to you yet! 😃 Shareholder
  • Score: 1

6:27pm Mon 4 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

deepheat wrote:
For sure it is going to be a tough season but we are in a better position than most who finished below us last season and who are rebuilding for the coming season.

Money spent on transfers so far by clubs that finished below us:-

Aston Villa

Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0

Burnley

Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m

Crystal Palace

Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000

Hull City

Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m

Leicester City

Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m

Newcastle

Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m

QPR

Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m

Stoke City

Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m

Sunderland

Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m

Swansea City

Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m

West Bromwich

Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m

West Ham

Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m
Don't agree because unlike Saints, most other clubs are not selling all their best players so they don't need to spend too much.

As it stands today Saints are much weaker than last season and are looking in the bargain basement and loan players to improve, because contrary to reports Saints do not have much left to spend after paying off all the debts.

It is very difficult to get many quality players from that level !!
That is why it is taking so long with even these players waiting to see how we are shaping up ! eg Samaras, who is a free agent.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: For sure it is going to be a tough season but we are in a better position than most who finished below us last season and who are rebuilding for the coming season. Money spent on transfers so far by clubs that finished below us:- Aston Villa Players in T Leggett, I Nehemie (both Southampton, free), J Cole (West Ham, free), P Senderos (Valencia, free) K Richardson (Fulham, free). Total spent £0 Burnley Players in M Kightly (Stoke, £1.5m), M Gilks (Blackpool, free), M Taylor (West Ham, free), S Reid (West Bromwich, free), L Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £1.5m). Total spent £3m Crystal Palace Players in C Kettings (Blackpool, free), F Campbell (Cardiff, £900,000), B Hangeland (free). Total spent £900,000 Hull City Players in J Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), R Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m), T Ince (Blackpool, compensation), H Maguire (Sheffield United, £2.5m), A Robertson (Dundee United, £2.85m ). Total spent £20.35m Leicester City Players in J Barmby (Manchester United, free), M Upson (Brighton & Hove Albion, free), M Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), L Rowley (Manchester United, free) L Ulloa (Brighton, £8m). Total spent £8m Newcastle Players in A Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), S de Jong, (Ajax, £6m), R Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), D Janmaat (Feyenoord (£5m), E Rivière, (Monaco, £6m). Total spent £30.5m QPR Players in R Ferdinand (Manchester United, free), S Caulker (Cardiff City, £8.5m). Total spent £8.5m Stoke City Players in P Bardsley (Sunderland, free), S Sidwell (Fulham, free), M B Diouf (Hannover, free), D Teixeira (Banska Bystrica, £400k), Bojan Krkic (Barcelona,£3m). Total spent £3.4m Sunderland Players in J Gomez (Wigan, free), B Jones (West Bromwich, free), C Pantilimon, Manchester City, free), P van Aanholt (Chelsea, £1.5m) Total spent £1.5m Swansea City Players in L Fabianski (Arsenal, free), B Gomis (Lyons, free), M Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), G Sigurdsson (Tottenham Hotspur, undisclosed), J Montero (Morelia, £4m), S Kingsley (Falkirk, £850,00). Total spent £6.35m West Bromwich Players in B Ideye (Dynamo Kiev, £10m) C Gardner (Sunderland, free), J Lescott (Manchester City, free), C Baird (Burnley, free), A Wisdom (Liverpool, loan). Total spent £10m West Ham Players in E Valencia (Pachuca, £12m), A Cresswell (Ipswich, £2m), C Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), D Poyet (Charlton, undisclosed), C Jenkinson (Arsenal, loan). Total spent £21m[/p][/quote]Don't agree because unlike Saints, most other clubs are not selling all their best players so they don't need to spend too much. As it stands today Saints are much weaker than last season and are looking in the bargain basement and loan players to improve, because contrary to reports Saints do not have much left to spend after paying off all the debts. It is very difficult to get many quality players from that level !! That is why it is taking so long with even these players waiting to see how we are shaping up ! eg Samaras, who is a free agent. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -17

8:58pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Saintly Sam says...

At the end of last season I was hoping that we would break into the top 6 this season, but with the loss of some quality players I'll be happy with a comfy mid table finish, and judging by the poor quality of some of the other premiership teams I think that is easily achievable.
We are the Saints, we will not be relegated, anyone taking the 4/1 will be throwing their money away.
At the end of last season I was hoping that we would break into the top 6 this season, but with the loss of some quality players I'll be happy with a comfy mid table finish, and judging by the poor quality of some of the other premiership teams I think that is easily achievable. We are the Saints, we will not be relegated, anyone taking the 4/1 will be throwing their money away. Saintly Sam
  • Score: -5

9:59pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

reedhunter1 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
reedhunter1 wrote:
localnews wrote:
Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard
Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth.
Your only get crap from this paper.

SACK THE EDITOR
You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much.
Look at the crap he lets his reporters right-why can't he get them to write saints 6/4 to finish in top 10 no he as the editor lets this crap appear putting more pressure in our club and winding up the true saints fans.
And for the record no I wasn't an ex girlfriend but I do know that Ian Murry(editor) lives in Portsmouth so don't expect any favours.

I do suggest how ever you do your home work then your see why clubs are broken by outrageous editors and reporters!!!
You need to talk to someone, just get some professional help.clubs are ruined by poor management and greedy owners.saints are doing a great job of destroying themselves do don't blame the editor of a local paper.you are coming over as slightly unhinged.
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: Love the way the Skates come on here telling us how we will fail this season,THEY LOST 3-0 TO EBBSFLEET FFS if we're 4/1 for the drop your lot must be 1/4 and as for the Echo low life that keeps "reporting" this sh1t,put your name to the article you Skate b@stard[/p][/quote]Do t be surprised editor of daily echo lives in Portsmouth. Your only get crap from this paper. SACK THE EDITOR[/p][/quote]You seem to have a fixation with the editor.its borderline creepy.are you an ex girlfriend of his? Or boyfriend of hers? Either way shut up and stop reading it if it offends you that much.[/p][/quote]Look at the crap he lets his reporters right-why can't he get them to write saints 6/4 to finish in top 10 no he as the editor lets this crap appear putting more pressure in our club and winding up the true saints fans. And for the record no I wasn't an ex girlfriend but I do know that Ian Murry(editor) lives in Portsmouth so don't expect any favours. I do suggest how ever you do your home work then your see why clubs are broken by outrageous editors and reporters!!![/p][/quote]You need to talk to someone, just get some professional help.clubs are ruined by poor management and greedy owners.saints are doing a great job of destroying themselves do don't blame the editor of a local paper.you are coming over as slightly unhinged. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -5

10:02pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us.
2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts.
Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs?
Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?
I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.
Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot.
Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player?
Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time.
I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.
YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK
That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post .
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ALMOST ALWAYS USES RUDE LANGUAGE AND INSULTING COMMENTS WHICH I HATE - IT SHOWS YOUR EXTRAORDINARY IMMATURITY . YES - I'M HAPPY TO BE REPORTED TO THE ECHO BY YOU - PERHAPS THIS WILL FINALLY GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE.
Calm down.you have a terrible temper.i have also reported this post.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Why wouldn't the odds fall? Bookies see us selling all our best players and not replacing them with proven epl performers and weak leadership from the board.we have relegation written all over us. 2 weeks to go and we are still looking in the basement bin of football.what happened to the world class players les said were beating down his door? Oh that's right they saw us sell our best players and had second thoughts. Have we bid for Redmond again? Or Forster? Are we going with jos at centre back then? Who is captain? Why hasn't cork or fonte signed new contracts? Why so many loans? Why are Rodwell and wickham not coming to us? Why is Ronald always tweeting? Why does les wear farahs? Why is Ralph excited by new challenges? Why did we sell so many players so quickly and early in the transfer window? Why did we sell chambers and not say not yet? Why are we the laughing stock of the epl?[/p][/quote]I wish we could sell you. Grossly unjustified negativity and insults as usual. Then you rig the thumbs up. I hope true Saints fans realise this.[/p][/quote]Maybe people just agree with me you arrogant twot. Negative? Show me where? These are all questions REAL saints fans want answered.how long do we give les,Ralph and Ron to sign a decent player? Fans like you gave us Lowe,then you clapped him and posted on here how we should be patient and give him time. I hope all REAL saints fans want the answers to these questions.apart from the one about Leslie's farahs ,he wears them because they are cool.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE AN EVIL NASTY BIT OF WORK[/p][/quote]That's a bit harsh.nasty language and all in capitals.i have reported your post .[/p][/quote]YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ALMOST ALWAYS USES RUDE LANGUAGE AND INSULTING COMMENTS WHICH I HATE - IT SHOWS YOUR EXTRAORDINARY IMMATURITY . YES - I'M HAPPY TO BE REPORTED TO THE ECHO BY YOU - PERHAPS THIS WILL FINALLY GET YOU BANNED FROM THIS SITE.[/p][/quote]Calm down.you have a terrible temper.i have also reported this post. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -2

10:10pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....jeez this knob is getting desperate.
Ignore and it'll go away
Get some friends,real ones not other posters on here.try to have at least one conversation with a human being today.stop living with your parents and get a job.try not to talk to yourself when your on the bus.have a shower this week .you do these things your life will improve.at the moment you are coming over as a bit of a lost case.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: 2 dunnie dweller is after some attention again.....jeez this knob is getting desperate. Ignore and it'll go away[/p][/quote]Get some friends,real ones not other posters on here.try to have at least one conversation with a human being today.stop living with your parents and get a job.try not to talk to yourself when your on the bus.have a shower this week .you do these things your life will improve.at the moment you are coming over as a bit of a lost case. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 3

1:58am Tue 5 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Offthe subject, how did the word skate get used to describe a Portsmouth supporter? what does it mean exactly? Sorry i'm not in England and aren't privvy to the lingo!
Offthe subject, how did the word skate get used to describe a Portsmouth supporter? what does it mean exactly? Sorry i'm not in England and aren't privvy to the lingo! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

4:29am Tue 5 Aug 14

popper says...

very short odds-on to stay up (1/10).

we would have taken than 2 years ago.

we are just starting a new 5 year plan in a very secure position in the premier league. even the bookies think so.

its great being a saints fan
very short odds-on to stay up (1/10). we would have taken than 2 years ago. we are just starting a new 5 year plan in a very secure position in the premier league. even the bookies think so. its great being a saints fan popper
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Not much news today... anyone heard any rumours ?
Not much news today... anyone heard any rumours ? Alicesdad
  • Score: 0

9:23pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

HAVE you ever taken notice THAT STOKE CITY never make the fuss saints do,no SO CALLED big names, OR BIG PROMISE ABOUT YEARS HENCE though Bojan could surprise a few. nice SOLID well run- presentation always nice and tight. STEADY AND REALISTIC. NOW LETS HAVE A BIT OF FAITH,SHOCK THE COLUMBIAN ANTEATERS ON SATURDAY, AND MOST OF ALL TRY TO KEEP OUR FEET ON THE GROUND. P.S. SAINTS AND BETTING DON'T MIX--SHOULD HAVE LEARNT THAT BY NOW!
HAVE you ever taken notice THAT STOKE CITY never make the fuss saints do,no SO CALLED big names, OR BIG PROMISE ABOUT YEARS HENCE though Bojan could surprise a few. nice SOLID well run- presentation always nice and tight. STEADY AND REALISTIC. NOW LETS HAVE A BIT OF FAITH,SHOCK THE COLUMBIAN ANTEATERS ON SATURDAY, AND MOST OF ALL TRY TO KEEP OUR FEET ON THE GROUND. P.S. SAINTS AND BETTING DON'T MIX--SHOULD HAVE LEARNT THAT BY NOW! lastminmoran
  • Score: 0

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