Southampton complete the loan signing of Inter Milan midfielder Saphir Taider with Dani Osvaldo moving in the opposite direction

Saphir Taider in Southampton today. Pic courtesy Southampton FC

Saphir Taider in Southampton today. Pic courtesy Southampton FC

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Saints have confirmed the signing of Saphir Taider from Inter Milan.

The Algerian midfielder has moved to St Mary’s on loan with Dani Osvaldo going in the opposite direction.

Both are season long loans with options for the moves to be made permanent for fees of about €7m (£5.5m).

Taider, who starred for Algeria at the World Cup having opted to represent them at international level despite being born in France and having played for Les Blues at youth level, is an attacking midfielder.

He started his career with Grenoble before quickly being snapped up by Serie A side Bologna.

However, his talents were such that it didn’t take long for the giants of Italian football to become interested, with Inter Milan paying €5.5m last summer to bring him to the San Siro.

He has been given the number 17 shirt at Saints.

Club record signing Osvaldo, who joined for an initial £12.9m from Roma last summer, spent the second half of last season on loan at Juventus after his training ground bust up with Jose Fonte.

Daily Echo:

Saints manager Ronald Koeman said in a club statement: “It’s part of our philosophy for the club to bring in talented young players who like to learn and develop themselves, and that’s true of Saphir.

“First of all, he is a talented football player. He’s 22 and has already played for Algeria at the World Cup.

“I’ve spoken to him about the positions he can play in, and it was a good meeting because he showed me real ambition.

“He can play as a controlled midfielder, but he can also move up around the box and up front, which is a good thing for a coach or manager because it brings more possibilities to the players in the team. He brings competition to the squad.

“He can still learn some things, so we will train him and develop him this season. Over the course of the year, we will then make a decision about the future of the player.

“He’s ten days into his pre-season, so he needs to be in better physical shape but we’ll give him training and he will be ready for the kick-off.

“He will start training tomorrow morning and, depending on how he does over the next few days, we will see whether he will take part in the friendly on Saturday. I will make that decision on Friday.”

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4:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

John Gillham says...

Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.
Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper. John Gillham
  • Score: 39

4:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first! SaintAsh1964
  • Score: 84

4:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Datarater says...

Now two centre backs and a goallie please.
Now two centre backs and a goallie please. Datarater
  • Score: 37

4:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

apm1954 says...

No more loans.
No more loans. apm1954
  • Score: -64

4:43pm Wed 6 Aug 14

randre says...

Great bit of business this. A very promising player.

Great loan deal with a bargain price if all works well. From what I have seen of this player he is very impressive.

Could well be a great bit of business :-)
Great bit of business this. A very promising player. Great loan deal with a bargain price if all works well. From what I have seen of this player he is very impressive. Could well be a great bit of business :-) randre
  • Score: 53

4:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!! Clever Dick
  • Score: 70

4:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

John Gillham wrote:
Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.
Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please!
[quote][p][bold]John Gillham[/bold] wrote: Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please! nomorerumours
  • Score: 37

4:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan.

I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).
No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan. I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps). Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 15

4:47pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Good news at last!

Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30.
Good news at last! Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -43

4:48pm Wed 6 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

We knew he was coming and he sounds a useful addition. The end of a lot of chat - Hoobl**dyray!
We knew he was coming and he sounds a useful addition. The end of a lot of chat - Hoobl**dyray! saintbobby
  • Score: 12

4:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintSherman says...

Good signing, with a view to buy so again like Bertrand great business.
Also with Taider being given number 17 it would suggest there are at least two signings still to be made with 5 and 7 still vacant. Hopefully Celtic and Feyenoord crash out of the Champions League so it might free up some of our targets.

I like this positive feeling!
Good signing, with a view to buy so again like Bertrand great business. Also with Taider being given number 17 it would suggest there are at least two signings still to be made with 5 and 7 still vacant. Hopefully Celtic and Feyenoord crash out of the Champions League so it might free up some of our targets. I like this positive feeling! SaintSherman
  • Score: 20

4:52pm Wed 6 Aug 14

reedhunter1 says...

Well done the saints board great business getting rid of crap and replacing it with a star.
Now a marque striker, goal keeper and 2 defenders.
Who the f@@k is laughing now.
COME ON YOU SAINTS
Well done the saints board great business getting rid of crap and replacing it with a star. Now a marque striker, goal keeper and 2 defenders. Who the f@@k is laughing now. COME ON YOU SAINTS reedhunter1
  • Score: 27

4:52pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jaygleis says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
Why is there an issue with loan signings with a view to it being made permanent? Wouldn't this have been a better option with Osvaldo rather than waste the money we did in signing him permanently?

Loan signings all go towards the long term plan and increasing our salary cap for next season etc...... They are having to re-build from what has been left behind and so this season may not be as successful as last, but next season could be when we make a bigger move than we did last.

Give people a chance to flourish and to shine. No player has been brought in on loan without it being with a view to being made permanent and for me this is a good sign and good business sense.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]Why is there an issue with loan signings with a view to it being made permanent? Wouldn't this have been a better option with Osvaldo rather than waste the money we did in signing him permanently? Loan signings all go towards the long term plan and increasing our salary cap for next season etc...... They are having to re-build from what has been left behind and so this season may not be as successful as last, but next season could be when we make a bigger move than we did last. Give people a chance to flourish and to shine. No player has been brought in on loan without it being with a view to being made permanent and for me this is a good sign and good business sense. jaygleis
  • Score: 47

4:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

saintmac says...

What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player.
I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will
wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that
whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.
What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player. I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players. saintmac
  • Score: 12

4:55pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Truesaintsfan says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it. Truesaintsfan
  • Score: 76

4:56pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid...... costa gaz
  • Score: -55

4:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

Looks like a useful addition to the team/squad, Adam Lallana will soon be just a distant memory.
Looks like a useful addition to the team/squad, Adam Lallana will soon be just a distant memory. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 22

4:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

Sounds promising-will look forward to seeing what he will become.
I think 2 loans isn't the end of the world, as it gives us more depth of quality, but without loads of cash thrown at it( perhaps we've learnt from Dani???)
I think a couple more 'big' signings, permanent ones too, would me us all feel more comfortable as we start the season.
At least one CB ( 2 better, but not realistic) and a poacher would be my choice, although if Clasie became available..
Not sure we need to buy a new number one keeper-a decent back up sounds better to me, but looks like Forster will come? So what happens Boruc then? Think he deserves to stay number one, and send Gazza on loan to get experience, and bring in a quality youngster like Butland to deputize Artur?
Sounds promising-will look forward to seeing what he will become. I think 2 loans isn't the end of the world, as it gives us more depth of quality, but without loads of cash thrown at it( perhaps we've learnt from Dani???) I think a couple more 'big' signings, permanent ones too, would me us all feel more comfortable as we start the season. At least one CB ( 2 better, but not realistic) and a poacher would be my choice, although if Clasie became available.. Not sure we need to buy a new number one keeper-a decent back up sounds better to me, but looks like Forster will come? So what happens Boruc then? Think he deserves to stay number one, and send Gazza on loan to get experience, and bring in a quality youngster like Butland to deputize Artur? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

If we can get that striker and a cb we need and maybe forster we will be well set up to suprise the critics again...nearly there ...
If we can get that striker and a cb we need and maybe forster we will be well set up to suprise the critics again...nearly there ... miltonnroad76
  • Score: 19

4:58pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Seedhouse is right .. but thats tomorrows problem.

Today we have a new player. Weclome !

I like him, before I even knew him I liked him, you hate him compared to how much I like him.

Now lets all calm down and have a nice cup of tea.
Seedhouse is right .. but thats tomorrows problem. Today we have a new player. Weclome ! I like him, before I even knew him I liked him, you hate him compared to how much I like him. Now lets all calm down and have a nice cup of tea. Alicesdad
  • Score: 26

4:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there.
[quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 9

4:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

saintbobby wrote:
We knew he was coming and he sounds a useful addition. The end of a lot of chat - Hoobl**dyray!
I think this could be a good signing. Gotta do something about that Barnett though - jeez, I've never seen anything quite like it!
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: We knew he was coming and he sounds a useful addition. The end of a lot of chat - Hoobl**dyray![/p][/quote]I think this could be a good signing. Gotta do something about that Barnett though - jeez, I've never seen anything quite like it! thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
I hear what you say and it sounds good. Just to clarify, is their "contract" like it has been for our permanent players - not worth a candle or does it mean something different?

Not sure
[quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]I hear what you say and it sounds good. Just to clarify, is their "contract" like it has been for our permanent players - not worth a candle or does it mean something different? Not sure Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 7

5:01pm Wed 6 Aug 14

YellowRibbon says...

Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR YellowRibbon
  • Score: 50

5:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!!
Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?
TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!! Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider? warrens 76
  • Score: 3

5:03pm Wed 6 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan.

I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).
Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan. I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).[/p][/quote]Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR willygetaway
  • Score: 12

5:04pm Wed 6 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Good deal for Saints, a few loan deals with a fixed fee if we want to buy makes sense to mitigate the Osvaldo/other mistakes.

Now the TWO CB's and a STRIKER are the priorities plus a Gk.

If Celtic and Feyrenood both loose we should go for Forster, van Dijk, Classie and de Vijl.
Then just a top striker goalscorer to get in and we will be fine once they all settle in.

Starting to take shape now with the Ralph's statement of intent.

COYR&WS
Good deal for Saints, a few loan deals with a fixed fee if we want to buy makes sense to mitigate the Osvaldo/other mistakes. Now the TWO CB's and a STRIKER are the priorities plus a Gk. If Celtic and Feyrenood both loose we should go for Forster, van Dijk, Classie and de Vijl. Then just a top striker goalscorer to get in and we will be fine once they all settle in. Starting to take shape now with the Ralph's statement of intent. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 12

5:05pm Wed 6 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

willygetaway wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan.

I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).
Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR
TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!!
Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?
Gene Hackman more like it bro, we may yet admire the board and eat our hats but some serious pieces are still missing..CB's, speedy winger and goal poachers ..aahh.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan. I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).[/p][/quote]Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR[/p][/quote]TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!! Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider? Gene Hackman more like it bro, we may yet admire the board and eat our hats but some serious pieces are still missing..CB's, speedy winger and goal poachers ..aahh. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

5:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
NURSE!!!!!! He's out of bed again...
[quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]NURSE!!!!!! He's out of bed again... costa gaz
  • Score: -1

5:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Costagaz, you are right .. the system IS stupid and let's be honest .. £25 million for Lallana was stupid as well, and £27 million for Shaw - really ? Yet only £4 million for Sir Rickie - ridiculous. Teams who pay that are simply panic buying on borrowed funding and one day the mighty will fall.
No wonder King Ralph says its good business. Its like finding something valuable in yoir kitchen cupboard then finding people are prepared to pay stupid money for other stuff too... Nobody is irreplaceable.

I iknow you were being sarcastic - but check what you wrote - and think - you were absolutely spot on.

If anyone else realises this I predict a riot.
Costagaz, you are right .. the system IS stupid and let's be honest .. £25 million for Lallana was stupid as well, and £27 million for Shaw - really ? Yet only £4 million for Sir Rickie - ridiculous. Teams who pay that are simply panic buying on borrowed funding and one day the mighty will fall. No wonder King Ralph says its good business. Its like finding something valuable in yoir kitchen cupboard then finding people are prepared to pay stupid money for other stuff too... Nobody is irreplaceable. I iknow you were being sarcastic - but check what you wrote - and think - you were absolutely spot on. If anyone else realises this I predict a riot. Alicesdad
  • Score: 16

5:07pm Wed 6 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

warrens 76 wrote:
TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!!
Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?
I,d like to see Danny Ings Bro
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!! Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?[/p][/quote]I,d like to see Danny Ings Bro willygetaway
  • Score: 3

5:10pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

.. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases!
.. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases! Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

5:11pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Very happy with this loan deal as it sounds like he has real promise. Like others it would be good to get the Forster deal sorted soon. But need some urgent news on a CB. Get two good signings done and we will be in good shape for the season particularly with Spider staying snd Jay getting fitter.
Very happy with this loan deal as it sounds like he has real promise. Like others it would be good to get the Forster deal sorted soon. But need some urgent news on a CB. Get two good signings done and we will be in good shape for the season particularly with Spider staying snd Jay getting fitter. Chapperall
  • Score: 5

5:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
I would say that Rickie Lambert who cost £1m was a better player than Osvaldo who cost £15m, every now and then a player comes along who proves to be a bargain, another example is Leon Osman who cost Everton £750,000 what a bargain.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]I would say that Rickie Lambert who cost £1m was a better player than Osvaldo who cost £15m, every now and then a player comes along who proves to be a bargain, another example is Leon Osman who cost Everton £750,000 what a bargain. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 13

5:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Alicesdad wrote:
.. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases!
If I can buy your ""i predict a riot"" for £3 will you be able to replace it for about £0:50, and will you be 100% sure the replacement be even better?
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: .. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases![/p][/quote]If I can buy your ""i predict a riot"" for £3 will you be able to replace it for about £0:50, and will you be 100% sure the replacement be even better? costa gaz
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Wed 6 Aug 14

centre circle says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
Could I just borrow a tenner ??
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]Could I just borrow a tenner ?? centre circle
  • Score: 9

5:17pm Wed 6 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Costa, I get your point but am hoping it turns out that we definitely got top dollar on our sales. In the cool light of day, the fees were really rather high.

Take Lovren (traitor), bought for £8 million and after one season we get £ 20 million. You won't get that return in your capital in Santander! AL must convince Anfield that he is £25 million and that may be a tall order.

There is no real answer, of course, until we see how it all pans out. I think a few wins will settle us all quite nicely.
Costa, I get your point but am hoping it turns out that we definitely got top dollar on our sales. In the cool light of day, the fees were really rather high. Take Lovren (traitor), bought for £8 million and after one season we get £ 20 million. You won't get that return in your capital in Santander! AL must convince Anfield that he is £25 million and that may be a tall order. There is no real answer, of course, until we see how it all pans out. I think a few wins will settle us all quite nicely. saintbobby
  • Score: 8

5:22pm Wed 6 Aug 14

AndyT in Salt Lake City, USA says...

This is a great signing in my opinion. I would love to see Forster (though I thought Boruc was great last seaon, erratic at times but great saves far outnumbered costly errors) brought in as a long term keeper, 1 or 2 quality CB's, a pacey winger and another goalscorer.
Forget relegation odds, what are the odds for winning the handicap league? Might be worth a few quid.
Feeling more postive but want to see the key areas addressed sooner rather than later.
I have a feeling we will put to shame all the negative pundits that have written us off before a ball is kicked. Let's hope so anyway.
Oh, and give Fonte the armband for next season - a true warrior and possibly the most improved player last term. Love his comments supporting the club.
This is a great signing in my opinion. I would love to see Forster (though I thought Boruc was great last seaon, erratic at times but great saves far outnumbered costly errors) brought in as a long term keeper, 1 or 2 quality CB's, a pacey winger and another goalscorer. Forget relegation odds, what are the odds for winning the handicap league? Might be worth a few quid. Feeling more postive but want to see the key areas addressed sooner rather than later. I have a feeling we will put to shame all the negative pundits that have written us off before a ball is kicked. Let's hope so anyway. Oh, and give Fonte the armband for next season - a true warrior and possibly the most improved player last term. Love his comments supporting the club. AndyT in Salt Lake City, USA
  • Score: 20

5:26pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Great addition to the squad and a lot more value out of Osvaldo than I thought we'd get as a result COYS
Great addition to the squad and a lot more value out of Osvaldo than I thought we'd get as a result COYS Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

5:27pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Datarater says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
Why?
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]Why? Datarater
  • Score: 1

5:30pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

Datarater wrote:
Now two centre backs and a goallie please.
Umm and a striker to replace the two we have lost???hernandez is the quality we need.I have no idea why he hasnt signed yet
[quote][p][bold]Datarater[/bold] wrote: Now two centre backs and a goallie please.[/p][/quote]Umm and a striker to replace the two we have lost???hernandez is the quality we need.I have no idea why he hasnt signed yet Block 42
  • Score: -4

5:30pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

TBH, I'd be quite happy with the signings so far, permanent and loan, if they were being brought in as additions to last years squad. Imagine having that sort of back up, which is where we lacked in last season.

However, bringing in these players, valued at around £30m to replace around £90m worth of talent is, I feel, just wall papering over the cracks.

Sure they could all turn out to be world beaters, but what are the chances.
TBH, I'd be quite happy with the signings so far, permanent and loan, if they were being brought in as additions to last years squad. Imagine having that sort of back up, which is where we lacked in last season. However, bringing in these players, valued at around £30m to replace around £90m worth of talent is, I feel, just wall papering over the cracks. Sure they could all turn out to be world beaters, but what are the chances. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

5:31pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Datarater says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Good news at last!

Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30.
The option on Taider is not dependent on Inter buying Osvaldo. It's up to the Saints if they want to make it permanent.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Good news at last! Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30.[/p][/quote]The option on Taider is not dependent on Inter buying Osvaldo. It's up to the Saints if they want to make it permanent. Datarater
  • Score: 9

5:36pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Mister E says...

We've loaned out Osvaldo?
We really are in meltdown!
God! I love being a Saints supporter.
We've loaned out Osvaldo? We really are in meltdown! God! I love being a Saints supporter. Mister E
  • Score: 13

5:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

And the number seven shirt still to be filled. Exciting.

Love the fact that Ronald asks the player where he likes to play rather than telling him where he's going to be playing. Sounds simple, but that's different to the approach others might have taken.

Refreshing and might help us get the best out of him - too many managers try to fit the players into their system rather than building a system around their players, if that makes sense.
And the number seven shirt still to be filled. Exciting. Love the fact that Ronald asks the player where he likes to play rather than telling him where he's going to be playing. Sounds simple, but that's different to the approach others might have taken. Refreshing and might help us get the best out of him - too many managers try to fit the players into their system rather than building a system around their players, if that makes sense. SaintJD
  • Score: 9

5:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

vidman says...

Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price.
Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price. vidman
  • Score: 2

5:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Oh, sorry, bye Danni, miss you, thanks for an incredible contribution.
Oh, sorry, bye Danni, miss you, thanks for an incredible contribution. SaintJD
  • Score: 10

5:39pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
well as that's when their season will be over it is a season long loan for them!
that and they never know if they will still have a club in a months time its good business for them.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]well as that's when their season will be over it is a season long loan for them! that and they never know if they will still have a club in a months time its good business for them. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

5:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

That's a point actually - all these posts and not one saying goodbye and good luck to the hairy one. Says it all really. Seems like only yesterday that we were welcoming him to the club and coming up with chants for our misunderstood hero. What a ****.
That's a point actually - all these posts and not one saying goodbye and good luck to the hairy one. Says it all really. Seems like only yesterday that we were welcoming him to the club and coming up with chants for our misunderstood hero. What a ****. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

5:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

vidman wrote:
Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price.
Good.
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price.[/p][/quote]Good. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

5:43pm Wed 6 Aug 14

saintand266 says...

Welcome aboard Taider.

Just read on caught offside website that arsenal are in advanced talks with the saints board about a 27 million deal for Morgan with the possibility of a player coming the other way .
I hope the board sticks to its word unless it's sanchez coming to us!
Welcome aboard Taider. Just read on caught offside website that arsenal are in advanced talks with the saints board about a 27 million deal for Morgan with the possibility of a player coming the other way . I hope the board sticks to its word unless it's sanchez coming to us! saintand266
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Churchill Saint says...

Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo.
Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business.
[quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo. Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business. Churchill Saint
  • Score: 5

5:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Tony in Liberia says...

Alicesdad wrote:
.. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases!
AlicesDad, I predicted a riot when Thatcher introduced the Poll Tax ... get your own phrases, you thieving bar steward!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: .. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases![/p][/quote]AlicesDad, I predicted a riot when Thatcher introduced the Poll Tax ... get your own phrases, you thieving bar steward! Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 5

5:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

randre says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
What a team pays for a player doesn't necessarily mean he is any better or worse than that of another who has cost 4 times as much,sometimes it is about hard work, knowledge of other players and scouting.

If everyone was as good as the price paid for them then Andy Carroll should be a world class striker who puts Neymar to shame!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]What a team pays for a player doesn't necessarily mean he is any better or worse than that of another who has cost 4 times as much,sometimes it is about hard work, knowledge of other players and scouting. If everyone was as good as the price paid for them then Andy Carroll should be a world class striker who puts Neymar to shame!! randre
  • Score: 8

5:48pm Wed 6 Aug 14

vidman says...

Looking at the photo in his Algeria kit he needs to shed a few pounds.
Looking at the photo in his Algeria kit he needs to shed a few pounds. vidman
  • Score: -3

5:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Datarater wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Good news at last!

Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30.
The option on Taider is not dependent on Inter buying Osvaldo. It's up to the Saints if they want to make it permanent.
I fully understand that. I'm saying a straight swap, as they seem to have agreed identical values on them both, may have been better. Time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]Datarater[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Good news at last! Although I do feel we have set ourselves up for a potential fall in 12 months with us wanting Taider and Inter not wanting Dani and we get him back again but at the age of 30.[/p][/quote]The option on Taider is not dependent on Inter buying Osvaldo. It's up to the Saints if they want to make it permanent.[/p][/quote]I fully understand that. I'm saying a straight swap, as they seem to have agreed identical values on them both, may have been better. Time will tell. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

5:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him. yellowcard
  • Score: 6

5:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Churchill Saint wrote:
Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo.
Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business.
No, selling Osvaldo makes good business. We'd take a massive loss yes, but at least make a small recovery on his purchase price. This way we risk getting lumbered with his wages every summer and eventually releasing him for nothing when his contract expires.
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo. Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business.[/p][/quote]No, selling Osvaldo makes good business. We'd take a massive loss yes, but at least make a small recovery on his purchase price. This way we risk getting lumbered with his wages every summer and eventually releasing him for nothing when his contract expires. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

5:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
Nice one.
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first![/p][/quote]Nice one. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 5

5:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

saintmac wrote:
What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player.
I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will
wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that
whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.
Wouldn't it be a bit premature to pass final judgement on 31st August? The season doesn't end till May next year.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player. I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be a bit premature to pass final judgement on 31st August? The season doesn't end till May next year. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

5:58pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

I've seen Taider on Youtube he looks a very good Player and a very determined Player who will fight for everything, he has good skills and will frighten all the opposition, I have every confidence he will succeed, let us all compliment Ronald Koeman who may of picked out this Player during the World Cup and told the Board and compliment Les Reed who would of had Taider watched after getting advice from his team of Scouts, I've never lost faith and trust in the Board and always knew that in time everything will get into shape for the start of the new season.

To those imposters who unnecessarily post on here because the are suppose to support Liverpool, do you think Liverpool are still a goal up with 11 days to go or is there uncertainty beginning to creep in?
I've seen Taider on Youtube he looks a very good Player and a very determined Player who will fight for everything, he has good skills and will frighten all the opposition, I have every confidence he will succeed, let us all compliment Ronald Koeman who may of picked out this Player during the World Cup and told the Board and compliment Les Reed who would of had Taider watched after getting advice from his team of Scouts, I've never lost faith and trust in the Board and always knew that in time everything will get into shape for the start of the new season. To those imposters who unnecessarily post on here because the are suppose to support Liverpool, do you think Liverpool are still a goal up with 11 days to go or is there uncertainty beginning to creep in? Malcombe
  • Score: 11

5:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

yellowcard wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.
Look out! You've just woken up One in the Crowd,he'll be crawling out from underneath his bridge as we speak.
[quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.[/p][/quote]Look out! You've just woken up One in the Crowd,he'll be crawling out from underneath his bridge as we speak. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

5:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 9

5:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

yellowcard wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.
Yellowcard, without sounding patronising, a players value is decided by how much the seller will sell for and how much the buyer is prepared to pay.
So this means the value was set at £26m by both parties
This is how all footballers are valued, if they progress their value will increase, if they fail, their value will decrease.
Obviously age will have a bearing on future values, but the value will still be set buy the buyer/seller.
[quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.[/p][/quote]Yellowcard, without sounding patronising, a players value is decided by how much the seller will sell for and how much the buyer is prepared to pay. So this means the value was set at £26m by both parties This is how all footballers are valued, if they progress their value will increase, if they fail, their value will decrease. Obviously age will have a bearing on future values, but the value will still be set buy the buyer/seller. costa gaz
  • Score: 2

6:01pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Kernowsaints says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
we sold for top money , and get some one we can look over for a season with a fixed buy price who may actually be better than lallana . i call it good . as for top teams its them who paid the silly money for 1 season pl players with what a couple caps for a third rate international team . and yes im english .and consider our national team a joke
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]we sold for top money , and get some one we can look over for a season with a fixed buy price who may actually be better than lallana . i call it good . as for top teams its them who paid the silly money for 1 season pl players with what a couple caps for a third rate international team . and yes im english .and consider our national team a joke Kernowsaints
  • Score: 7

6:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

Have placed a crispy £20note on Saints to beat Liverhampton at 7-1 with Bet Fred......lubbly jubbly!!
Have placed a crispy £20note on Saints to beat Liverhampton at 7-1 with Bet Fred......lubbly jubbly!! GHamilton
  • Score: 6

6:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

The Inbetweener says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Costa Gaz, can't work out if you are being sarcastic, but haven't Man City (think Lampard) and Everton (Lukaku) used the amazing loan system to their benefit. Lukaku obviously enjoys playing his football at Everton as opposed to West Brom and wouldn't get a sniff at Chelsea so was happy to sign for them, Everton having had the benefit of a top striker for a season on loan.
Anyway I think it is a positive signing and hope he gets a few minutes on the pitch on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Costa Gaz, can't work out if you are being sarcastic, but haven't Man City (think Lampard) and Everton (Lukaku) used the amazing loan system to their benefit. Lukaku obviously enjoys playing his football at Everton as opposed to West Brom and wouldn't get a sniff at Chelsea so was happy to sign for them, Everton having had the benefit of a top striker for a season on loan. Anyway I think it is a positive signing and hope he gets a few minutes on the pitch on Saturday. The Inbetweener
  • Score: 5

6:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!!
Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?
I agree with that. I reckon it's more necessary than a centre back or two.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!! Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?[/p][/quote]I agree with that. I reckon it's more necessary than a centre back or two. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

baldcoot says...

4th awesome signing. The futures bright. The futures RED AND WHITE. Coyr
4th awesome signing. The futures bright. The futures RED AND WHITE. Coyr baldcoot
  • Score: 6

6:04pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
I feel sure there was a bit of irony in Gazez's post 101,or was there a bit of tongue in cheek in yours? ;0)
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]I feel sure there was a bit of irony in Gazez's post 101,or was there a bit of tongue in cheek in yours? ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

6:05pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
See my earlier post on the laziness/scouting etc of the 'BIG' clubs ........ They only sign names , and if Saints do as well as I think they may this year i.e. still mid table ish the discussion is going to be ;

1. How did Saints buy and sell so well suckering the big clubs, example Michu and many others ..................
2. How did these quality ex Saints English players further their careers and the English National Team by sitting on a bench for half the season............
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]See my earlier post on the laziness/scouting etc of the 'BIG' clubs ........ They only sign names , and if Saints do as well as I think they may this year i.e. still mid table ish the discussion is going to be ; 1. How did Saints buy and sell so well suckering the big clubs, example Michu and many others .................. 2. How did these quality ex Saints English players further their careers and the English National Team by sitting on a bench for half the season............ Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

6:05pm Wed 6 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

costa gaz wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
.. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases!
If I can buy your ""i predict a riot"" for £3 will you be able to replace it for about £0:50, and will you be 100% sure the replacement be even better?
no but can you be sure if he spent £20 on a replacement would it be any better??
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: .. one more thing CostaGaz - stop using my phrases![/p][/quote]If I can buy your ""i predict a riot"" for £3 will you be able to replace it for about £0:50, and will you be 100% sure the replacement be even better?[/p][/quote]no but can you be sure if he spent £20 on a replacement would it be any better?? yellowcard
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Datarater says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there.
Have you been following the debacle regarding Lalanna, Lambert, Shaw and Louvren? They were all contracted players.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there.[/p][/quote]Have you been following the debacle regarding Lalanna, Lambert, Shaw and Louvren? They were all contracted players. Datarater
  • Score: 2

6:08pm Wed 6 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
They have Everton have done it for years, Arsenal have done it on several occasions, bring lesser known players in develop them and sell them at vast profits.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]They have Everton have done it for years, Arsenal have done it on several occasions, bring lesser known players in develop them and sell them at vast profits. fascia123
  • Score: 3

6:09pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things.

That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things.

Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes.

Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you.
The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.
Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things. That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things. Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes. Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you. The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success. costa gaz
  • Score: 4

6:11pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Churchill Saint wrote:
Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo.
Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business.
No, selling Osvaldo makes good business. We'd take a massive loss yes, but at least make a small recovery on his purchase price. This way we risk getting lumbered with his wages every summer and eventually releasing him for nothing when his contract expires.
I must hurt when we haven't even paid for him yet ..........Thanks MoPo & NC !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The loan with option to buy scheme greatly favours the buying team. This works well for us with Taider but works well for Inter with Oswaldo. Frankly the whole Oswaldo episode has been a disaster - and those that conceived it (NC/MP) have flown and we now need to cut our losses. Getting Oswaldo off the wage bill will make room for Taider and one more and greatly improve team morale. Good business.[/p][/quote]No, selling Osvaldo makes good business. We'd take a massive loss yes, but at least make a small recovery on his purchase price. This way we risk getting lumbered with his wages every summer and eventually releasing him for nothing when his contract expires.[/p][/quote]I must hurt when we haven't even paid for him yet ..........Thanks MoPo & NC ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

6:11pm Wed 6 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Datarater wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Truesaintsfan wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.
Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there.
Have you been following the debacle regarding Lalanna, Lambert, Shaw and Louvren? They were all contracted players.
Why would they be less committed, they have something to prove or they will be shipped back to a club it probably has not worked out at already, you could say if someone didn't have the right attitude they may be more inclined to not perform if they have the security of a big fat contract??
[quote][p][bold]Datarater[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truesaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]You do realize how this loan system works right? We get Taider for one year, see if he's any good, then if he is we can have him for the aforementioned price no matter what inter say; if he's sh!te, we send him back, for no cost. I can't possibly see how this is viewed as a bad thing and I wish Judas had the clarity to do so before wasting money on Osvaldo. There's not even a argument for being negative here, just the sport of it.[/p][/quote]Loans have many benefits but there are some negatives too. In a season of real struggle loanees have been proven not to be as committed to the cause - remember our relegation? Also if he does exceptionally well other bigger teams may come in for him and he may not want to sign for us, we can force Inter but we can't force him. I think a couple of loans are good but I would draw the line there.[/p][/quote]Have you been following the debacle regarding Lalanna, Lambert, Shaw and Louvren? They were all contracted players.[/p][/quote]Why would they be less committed, they have something to prove or they will be shipped back to a club it probably has not worked out at already, you could say if someone didn't have the right attitude they may be more inclined to not perform if they have the security of a big fat contract?? fascia123
  • Score: 4

6:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

yellowcard says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
yellowcard wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.
Look out! You've just woken up One in the Crowd,he'll be crawling out from underneath his bridge as we speak.
lmao
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]He wasn't valued at £26 million he was valued at half that price just Liverpool where stupid enough to pay that much for him.[/p][/quote]Look out! You've just woken up One in the Crowd,he'll be crawling out from underneath his bridge as we speak.[/p][/quote]lmao yellowcard
  • Score: 1

6:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things.

That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things.

Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes.

Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you.
The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.
Normally? What is 'normally' in football?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things. That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things. Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes. Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you. The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.[/p][/quote]Normally? What is 'normally' in football? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

6:16pm Wed 6 Aug 14

st bevois says...

vidman wrote:
Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price.
And if that's the case he is not worth £25 million imo.
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: Hernandez will NOT be coming to us, A Madrid have offered £25m for him according to BBC sport There is no way we will better that price.[/p][/quote]And if that's the case he is not worth £25 million imo. st bevois
  • Score: 3

6:16pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

on sky sports news transfer centre earlier they mentioned this deal and then went on to say that we had an £8mill deal done in principle with Celtic for Forster. so I presume that it just depends on the Celtic result tonight. wonder if this is true, sky usually are pretty accurate with these things, so hopefully it is.
on sky sports news transfer centre earlier they mentioned this deal and then went on to say that we had an £8mill deal done in principle with Celtic for Forster. so I presume that it just depends on the Celtic result tonight. wonder if this is true, sky usually are pretty accurate with these things, so hopefully it is. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

6:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
If by 'top teams' you mean those qualifying for Europe try Everton or Liverpool for starters!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]If by 'top teams' you mean those qualifying for Europe try Everton or Liverpool for starters! Shareholder
  • Score: 4

6:20pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things.

That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things.

Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes.

Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you.
The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.
Normally? What is 'normally' in football?
Normally the teams who spend the most money and pay the highest wages end up at the top end of the league and normally those who spend the least and pay the lowest wages end up at the bottom end of the table.

Agreed, there is not too much else ""Normal"" in professional football.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things. That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things. Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes. Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you. The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.[/p][/quote]Normally? What is 'normally' in football?[/p][/quote]Normally the teams who spend the most money and pay the highest wages end up at the top end of the league and normally those who spend the least and pay the lowest wages end up at the bottom end of the table. Agreed, there is not too much else ""Normal"" in professional football. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

6:26pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about. costa gaz
  • Score: -6

6:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

markodarko29 says...

Please no more midfielders ,2 centre backs ,another striker ,goalie and winger ,rojo, van dijk,Hernandez or ings,Forster and Redmond will do ,chop chop ,check book out les time is ticking
Please no more midfielders ,2 centre backs ,another striker ,goalie and winger ,rojo, van dijk,Hernandez or ings,Forster and Redmond will do ,chop chop ,check book out les time is ticking markodarko29
  • Score: 2

6:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Good Looking Man About Town. says...

Not all of the money has to be spent this window I would rather the perm signings are made with patience rather than panic. Get a few loans in to tide us over then get players we really want. Patience is a virtue apparently.
Not all of the money has to be spent this window I would rather the perm signings are made with patience rather than panic. Get a few loans in to tide us over then get players we really want. Patience is a virtue apparently. Good Looking Man About Town.
  • Score: 5

6:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

now that this has happened I feel a lot better.Felt we were being led up the garden path but on reading Ralph,s words this morning and now this,I can start to dream again and especially as Kat is on board (with the rumours we were up for sale)seemingly untrue,hopefully more signings on the way.It really makes for a season to look forward to.Thank you all concerned.
now that this has happened I feel a lot better.Felt we were being led up the garden path but on reading Ralph,s words this morning and now this,I can start to dream again and especially as Kat is on board (with the rumours we were up for sale)seemingly untrue,hopefully more signings on the way.It really makes for a season to look forward to.Thank you all concerned. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 7

6:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

techsture says...

My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight....

Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds.
My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight.... Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds. techsture
  • Score: -8

6:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kaido says...

Why are Saints being offered to buy him for 5.5m euros when Inter Milan are getting a discount on Osvaldo?
Why are Saints being offered to buy him for 5.5m euros when Inter Milan are getting a discount on Osvaldo? kaido
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

florida saint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
it not that complicated really. lielanna was so over priced it was a no brainer, 25 mll, yes take that, thanks very much .although I see your point.
U T S
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]it not that complicated really. lielanna was so over priced it was a no brainer, 25 mll, yes take that, thanks very much .although I see your point. U T S florida saint
  • Score: 2

6:47pm Wed 6 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

Looking forward to seeing this lad play. With the crazy prices clubs play for English players he could well turn out to be great value for money. Don't forget the money paid for Shaw and Chambers was largely based on potential. It doesn't mean it cost £40m to get 2 players who can come in and replace them at this moment in time.
Looking forward to seeing this lad play. With the crazy prices clubs play for English players he could well turn out to be great value for money. Don't forget the money paid for Shaw and Chambers was largely based on potential. It doesn't mean it cost £40m to get 2 players who can come in and replace them at this moment in time. bstokesaint
  • Score: 5

6:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

On another note , let's hope Celtic don't overturn the 4:1 deficit tonight , so we have a least one further signing and maybe two later in the week ???

I want Van Dijk just for the songs we can sing to the tune of 'Mary Poppins' ................. Sadly it seems Newcastle are odd's on for him but he looks like a class CB ....................
...
On another note , let's hope Celtic don't overturn the 4:1 deficit tonight , so we have a least one further signing and maybe two later in the week ??? I want Van Dijk just for the songs we can sing to the tune of 'Mary Poppins' ................. Sadly it seems Newcastle are odd's on for him but he looks like a class CB .................... ... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

6:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Confucious says...

Good - another player who wants to be here. And hey - nothing like a new signing to cheer us all up.

I have a feeling as the season progresses the money we got for the wantaways will come to be seen as brilliant business on our part.

The one I wish well of course is Rickie - but I must admit the fact that, in a Liverpool shirt, he missed his first penalty for many years did bring on a wry smile.
Good - another player who wants to be here. And hey - nothing like a new signing to cheer us all up. I have a feeling as the season progresses the money we got for the wantaways will come to be seen as brilliant business on our part. The one I wish well of course is Rickie - but I must admit the fact that, in a Liverpool shirt, he missed his first penalty for many years did bring on a wry smile. Confucious
  • Score: 11

6:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Shrewdsaint says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
Try before you buy, its the way forward.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]Try before you buy, its the way forward. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 7

6:55pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Of all the sales we have made Lallana was the most overpriced , I am sure L'pool fans will be saying the same in 6 months. He was great for saints but i don't think liverpool with be as forgiving of some pretty wasteful play at times
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Of all the sales we have made Lallana was the most overpriced , I am sure L'pool fans will be saying the same in 6 months. He was great for saints but i don't think liverpool with be as forgiving of some pretty wasteful play at times Jesus_02
  • Score: 5

7:01pm Wed 6 Aug 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
Read it again then - it's quite simple.

It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity.

You never know, you might like it!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.[/p][/quote]Read it again then - it's quite simple. It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity. You never know, you might like it! TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 5

7:03pm Wed 6 Aug 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Wow, another top signing !
Wow, another top signing ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -9

7:07pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Invidia says...

I like the look of this guy, I did notice him during the world cup and rated him, lets face it Inter would not have signed him if he was rubbish. it also means that Spiderman will leave in the January window now we have a replacement.
I like the look of this guy, I did notice him during the world cup and rated him, lets face it Inter would not have signed him if he was rubbish. it also means that Spiderman will leave in the January window now we have a replacement. Invidia
  • Score: 4

7:08pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....................
.......
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .................... ....... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 14

7:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 8

7:22pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Steve_N says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA! Steve_N
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Wed 6 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Looks like the Board have to play a bit crafty to get Marcos Rojo.

Sporting Lisbon are waiting for Saints to put in a high offer in the hope it will start an auction with other interested clubs.
Liverpool and Chelsea have both been linked with him, yet their interest has cooled in recent times. The Lisbon giants are aware of the multiple sides looking at their man, and are keen to use his impressive displays in Brazil to boost his value.

Saints have seen an initial offer of close to £9.5m knocked back.
Sporting want around £15m-£20m for their man, who is expected to leave this summer.

Rojo is thought to be keen on a switch to the Premier League.
Looks like the Board have to play a bit crafty to get Marcos Rojo. Sporting Lisbon are waiting for Saints to put in a high offer in the hope it will start an auction with other interested clubs. Liverpool and Chelsea have both been linked with him, yet their interest has cooled in recent times. The Lisbon giants are aware of the multiple sides looking at their man, and are keen to use his impressive displays in Brazil to boost his value. Saints have seen an initial offer of close to £9.5m knocked back. Sporting want around £15m-£20m for their man, who is expected to leave this summer. Rojo is thought to be keen on a switch to the Premier League. deepheat
  • Score: 5

7:29pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Dave Brown says...

Big Ron.
The most professional member of staff at Southampton.F.C. at this moment of time.
No complaints about the current situation from him,he is getting on with his job and I feel he may just be the fans saviour compared with the other members of the board he is working alongside who appear to out of their depth.
I wish him every success and hope that he can become one of the best Managers we have witnessed at the club.
Big Ron. The most professional member of staff at Southampton.F.C. at this moment of time. No complaints about the current situation from him,he is getting on with his job and I feel he may just be the fans saviour compared with the other members of the board he is working alongside who appear to out of their depth. I wish him every success and hope that he can become one of the best Managers we have witnessed at the club. Dave Brown
  • Score: 5

7:30pm Wed 6 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....................

.......
I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players.

The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ).
The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .................... .......[/p][/quote]I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players. The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ). The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season. one in the crowd
  • Score: -18

7:32pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
Read it again then - it's quite simple.

It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity.

You never know, you might like it!
Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a David Moyes....
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.[/p][/quote]Read it again then - it's quite simple. It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity. You never know, you might like it![/p][/quote]Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a David Moyes.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -6

7:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Of all the sales we have made Lallana was the most overpriced , I am sure L'pool fans will be saying the same in 6 months. He was great for saints but i don't think liverpool with be as forgiving of some pretty wasteful play at times
They are already saying it and so have the press ......... Valued at £10-15 million SOLD FOR £25 Million !
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Of all the sales we have made Lallana was the most overpriced , I am sure L'pool fans will be saying the same in 6 months. He was great for saints but i don't think liverpool with be as forgiving of some pretty wasteful play at times[/p][/quote]They are already saying it and so have the press ......... Valued at £10-15 million SOLD FOR £25 Million ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 7

7:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
Read it again then - it's quite simple.

It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity.

You never know, you might like it!
Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a David Moyes....
Not meant for this thread, computer malfunction?....
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.[/p][/quote]Read it again then - it's quite simple. It's also about Saints fans supporting Saints players. It's what we do. Let's get over the past & look to the future with a bit of pride, passion & positivity. You never know, you might like it![/p][/quote]Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a David Moyes....[/p][/quote]Not meant for this thread, computer malfunction?.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -4

7:34pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Steve_N wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA!
Spot on ...........

Opps that makes it 6 - 6 hmmmmmmmm with more to come , come on NEGGIES , start changing those Log In's ..................
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA![/p][/quote]Spot on ........... Opps that makes it 6 - 6 hmmmmmmmm with more to come , come on NEGGIES , start changing those Log In's .................. Buddy SFC
  • Score: 6

7:35pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be another David Moyes....
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be another David Moyes.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: -3

7:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Saints n Winners says...

Invidia wrote:
I like the look of this guy, I did notice him during the world cup and rated him, lets face it Inter would not have signed him if he was rubbish. it also means that Spiderman will leave in the January window now we have a replacement.
Totally agree. he will have 5 months to get up to speed.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I like the look of this guy, I did notice him during the world cup and rated him, lets face it Inter would not have signed him if he was rubbish. it also means that Spiderman will leave in the January window now we have a replacement.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. he will have 5 months to get up to speed. Saints n Winners
  • Score: 4

7:39pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
well I tried my best to make it simple for you, obviously not simple enough.

so in your post you claim that players who are expensive have to be better than those who are cheaper,

"Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......"

I gave several examples of cheaper players who are much better than the expensive ones. it doesn't mean they have to be better but just because a club pays over the top for a player it doesn't mean he is any better than a cheaper player that the `top` clubs couldn't be bothered to scout!
you are trying to claim that what a player is sold for is a true reflection of their `talents`, and you have said this lots of time in the past. im just pointing out that it isn't!
there simple enough for you?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.[/p][/quote]well I tried my best to make it simple for you, obviously not simple enough. so in your post you claim that players who are expensive have to be better than those who are cheaper, "Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......" I gave several examples of cheaper players who are much better than the expensive ones. it doesn't mean they have to be better but just because a club pays over the top for a player it doesn't mean he is any better than a cheaper player that the `top` clubs couldn't be bothered to scout! you are trying to claim that what a player is sold for is a true reflection of their `talents`, and you have said this lots of time in the past. im just pointing out that it isn't! there simple enough for you? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 7

7:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

7:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Steve_N wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA!
excuse me, But I do the scorecard thank you ;) and it still remains 3-5
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA![/p][/quote]excuse me, But I do the scorecard thank you ;) and it still remains 3-5 costa gaz
  • Score: 1

7:49pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Dave Brown says...

I feel that big Ron is currently acting in a very professional and controlled manner considering the the situation he finds himself in.
There has not been one word of complaint from him and he appears to be building his squad brick by brick.
It appears that he may just be the fans saviour relating to the coming season and I wish him every success and hope that he becomes a long haul Manager for the Saints.
The board seem to be a trifle out of their depth running this club at the moment and Ron appears to have the ability to stop the club from sinking.
Hopefully we may be able to build this season and stop the manner in which the media and the other clubs in the premiership are taking the urinal out of us.
Let's see where we are at the end of the year,I may be eating my words but hopefully not.
I feel that big Ron is currently acting in a very professional and controlled manner considering the the situation he finds himself in. There has not been one word of complaint from him and he appears to be building his squad brick by brick. It appears that he may just be the fans saviour relating to the coming season and I wish him every success and hope that he becomes a long haul Manager for the Saints. The board seem to be a trifle out of their depth running this club at the moment and Ron appears to have the ability to stop the club from sinking. Hopefully we may be able to build this season and stop the manner in which the media and the other clubs in the premiership are taking the urinal out of us. Let's see where we are at the end of the year,I may be eating my words but hopefully not. Dave Brown
  • Score: 1

7:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Some interesting comments on here tonight re the relative value of players. I think in these days of inflated transfer prices and premiums for English players this has all become a bit blurred.

Performances on the pitch and points on the board will ultimately determine any player's relative value and I think our signings to date will prove very good value indeed in this respect.

One of the points I'm trying to make here is that it may not actually be necessary to spend money like-for-like to replace these players and we need to avoid doing what QPR did a couple seasons back when they signed everything that moved, and it turned out none of them could move very well! If this is the case then there is no problem having a little cash reserve at the end either to spend in January if needed.
Some interesting comments on here tonight re the relative value of players. I think in these days of inflated transfer prices and premiums for English players this has all become a bit blurred. Performances on the pitch and points on the board will ultimately determine any player's relative value and I think our signings to date will prove very good value indeed in this respect. One of the points I'm trying to make here is that it may not actually be necessary to spend money like-for-like to replace these players and we need to avoid doing what QPR did a couple seasons back when they signed everything that moved, and it turned out none of them could move very well! If this is the case then there is no problem having a little cash reserve at the end either to spend in January if needed. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

8:00pm Wed 6 Aug 14

randre says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
I would give HappyClappers a goal for Osvaldo, certainly a positive move in my opinion!

I make that 6-6. Great come back for the HC's ;-)
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]I would give HappyClappers a goal for Osvaldo, certainly a positive move in my opinion! I make that 6-6. Great come back for the HC's ;-) randre
  • Score: 5

8:00pm Wed 6 Aug 14

devonsaint2 says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....................


.......
I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players.

The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ).
The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season.
Ho ho
1 In a crowd....pompeys support away from home
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .................... .......[/p][/quote]I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players. The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ). The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season.[/p][/quote]Ho ho 1 In a crowd....pompeys support away from home devonsaint2
  • Score: 7

8:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

8:04pm Wed 6 Aug 14

up saints says...

apm1954 wrote:
No more loans.
well thats 5 gone 4 in i don't count osvaldo things looking better than this time last week.if we got osvaldo on loan we would not be 13 mil out of pockets and a big wage bill.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: No more loans.[/p][/quote]well thats 5 gone 4 in i don't count osvaldo things looking better than this time last week.if we got osvaldo on loan we would not be 13 mil out of pockets and a big wage bill. up saints
  • Score: 3

8:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

randre wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
I would give HappyClappers a goal for Osvaldo, certainly a positive move in my opinion!

I make that 6-6. Great come back for the HC's ;-)
If Sammy Lee gets his boots on for a second debut it's 7-6!
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]I would give HappyClappers a goal for Osvaldo, certainly a positive move in my opinion! I make that 6-6. Great come back for the HC's ;-)[/p][/quote]If Sammy Lee gets his boots on for a second debut it's 7-6! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 4

8:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

sparky130a says...

kaido wrote:
Why are Saints being offered to buy him for 5.5m euros when Inter Milan are getting a discount on Osvaldo?
Because Osvaldo is seriously damaged goods..
[quote][p][bold]kaido[/bold] wrote: Why are Saints being offered to buy him for 5.5m euros when Inter Milan are getting a discount on Osvaldo?[/p][/quote]Because Osvaldo is seriously damaged goods.. sparky130a
  • Score: 6

8:15pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

vidman wrote:
Looking at the photo in his Algeria kit he needs to shed a few pounds.
Perhaps he has been on the Luke Shaw diet!
[quote][p][bold]vidman[/bold] wrote: Looking at the photo in his Algeria kit he needs to shed a few pounds.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he has been on the Luke Shaw diet! nomorerumours
  • Score: 3

8:21pm Wed 6 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things.

That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things.

Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes.

Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you.
The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.
Normally? What is 'normally' in football?
Normally the teams who spend the most money and pay the highest wages end up at the top end of the league and normally those who spend the least and pay the lowest wages end up at the bottom end of the table.

Agreed, there is not too much else ""Normal"" in professional football.
Yup, I understand that, but there is always some nutter who disproves it. Like QPR and Harry Rednapp the season before last. Some money and wages paid were unbelievable - and still relegated!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things. That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things. Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes. Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you. The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.[/p][/quote]Normally? What is 'normally' in football?[/p][/quote]Normally the teams who spend the most money and pay the highest wages end up at the top end of the league and normally those who spend the least and pay the lowest wages end up at the bottom end of the table. Agreed, there is not too much else ""Normal"" in professional football.[/p][/quote]Yup, I understand that, but there is always some nutter who disproves it. Like QPR and Harry Rednapp the season before last. Some money and wages paid were unbelievable - and still relegated! saintbobby
  • Score: 4

8:23pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed. nomorerumours
  • Score: 7

8:23pm Wed 6 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold.

Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold. Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you. bstokesaint
  • Score: 9

8:26pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

nomorerumours wrote:
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
38 minutes - Legia have scored!!!! Almost there!
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: 35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]38 minutes - Legia have scored!!!! Almost there! nomorerumours
  • Score: 6

8:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

This is RoKo's signature, hes building his own team, replacing those who left with equally the same talent if not better... we might just be a surprised package again this season...who knows....Only time will tell...

one thing is certain, relegation battle is no longer Saints' ......

Those blokes down the M27 will be very disappointed!!!!!!

We are struggling to sell Dani.....why is MoPo not coming for him, instead of unsettling Jay Rod and Morgan....
This is RoKo's signature, hes building his own team, replacing those who left with equally the same talent if not better... we might just be a surprised package again this season...who knows....Only time will tell... one thing is certain, relegation battle is no longer Saints' ...... Those blokes down the M27 will be very disappointed!!!!!! We are struggling to sell Dani.....why is MoPo not coming for him, instead of unsettling Jay Rod and Morgan.... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 7

8:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

randre says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
Fellaini.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]Fellaini. randre
  • Score: 10

8:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz.
liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie.
chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price)
Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk.
manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna.
I could go on but you must get the point!
sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton.
the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players.
teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves.
I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying!
Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.
well I tried my best to make it simple for you, obviously not simple enough.

so in your post you claim that players who are expensive have to be better than those who are cheaper,

"Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......"

I gave several examples of cheaper players who are much better than the expensive ones. it doesn't mean they have to be better but just because a club pays over the top for a player it doesn't mean he is any better than a cheaper player that the `top` clubs couldn't be bothered to scout!
you are trying to claim that what a player is sold for is a true reflection of their `talents`, and you have said this lots of time in the past. im just pointing out that it isn't!
there simple enough for you?
I must say I agree with Horse101 on this one. Although I would add that the teams who take the punt on the 'unproven' player have less chance of him succeeding. If he does succeed he may well become the expensive 'proven' player a couple of seasons later.

Celtic losing, so a couple more coming in shortly!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]again a very poor and inaccurate argument gaz. liverhampton £35mill for carroll, hoof £15mill for carroll, us £1mill for rickie. chelski £50mill for torres, again £1mill for rickie (that's 1/50th of his price) Chelsea £21-£25mill for luiz, psg £50mill for luiz, us £8.5mill for dejerk, liverhampton £20mill for dejerk. manure £35mill for mata, liverhampton £25mill for liarlanna. I could go on but you must get the point! sometimes, yes sometimes, players that are cheaper to buy are in fact better than those that cost a fortune, or would you say that rickie (£1mill) was a 50th of the player that torres (£50mill) was, or 1/35th of he player that donkey was (£35mill) when he joined liverhampton. the top teams pay so much because their fans expect them to buy very expensive players, and clubs know they have money. Newcastle knew that liverhampton had just got £50mill for torres so got as much as they could for donkey! we knew liverhampton were going to get a fortune for the vampire so we go as much as we could for our players. teams like us have to look around the leagues in the hope of buying cheap players who have potential, whilst the big clubs just go around and buy the players who have had decent seasons and made a name for themselves. I could have thrown in J-rod and spider as well as they were cheaper than those expensive flops but I thought that you might just have got what I was saying![/p][/quote]Actually no, I have not got a clue what you are going on about.[/p][/quote]well I tried my best to make it simple for you, obviously not simple enough. so in your post you claim that players who are expensive have to be better than those who are cheaper, "Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......" I gave several examples of cheaper players who are much better than the expensive ones. it doesn't mean they have to be better but just because a club pays over the top for a player it doesn't mean he is any better than a cheaper player that the `top` clubs couldn't be bothered to scout! you are trying to claim that what a player is sold for is a true reflection of their `talents`, and you have said this lots of time in the past. im just pointing out that it isn't! there simple enough for you?[/p][/quote]I must say I agree with Horse101 on this one. Although I would add that the teams who take the punt on the 'unproven' player have less chance of him succeeding. If he does succeed he may well become the expensive 'proven' player a couple of seasons later. Celtic losing, so a couple more coming in shortly! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

8:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

nomorerumours wrote:
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: 35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

8:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

randre wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
Fellaini.
Boom! lol
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]Fellaini.[/p][/quote]Boom! lol J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

8:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

costa gaz wrote:
Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things.

That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things.

Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes.

Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you.
The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.
How does a club like southampton pay their wages? Saints aint that big . . . Yet
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Heligen, all the clubs you mentioned overspending for particular players have all won things, lots of things. That's what happens, spend money to buy the best available and the chances are you will win things. Sure they have all signed a Carroll/Torres, but so has every club, ours was Osvaldo. Big clubs can afford to write off a few mistakes. Compare what the current premier league champions squad is worth to ours, that's what spending big gets you. The more you spend, normally the better the player, better the players, more chances of success.[/p][/quote]How does a club like southampton pay their wages? Saints aint that big . . . Yet KSO16R
  • Score: 8

8:53pm Wed 6 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall? THE12THMAN
  • Score: 5

8:53pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Sammy2sheds says...

YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject
Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience
Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject
Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in
Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away
Yeah the board have done brilliantly
[quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away Yeah the board have done brilliantly Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 104

8:55pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.
And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

8:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

SaintJD wrote:
And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.
I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us...
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.[/p][/quote]I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us... Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Steve_N wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA!
Just to check on the rules, if we sign a really bad player (Samaras, Benjani) is that counted as an own goal by The Clap?
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA![/p][/quote]Just to check on the rules, if we sign a really bad player (Samaras, Benjani) is that counted as an own goal by The Clap? SaintJD
  • Score: 2

8:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Tetty says...

What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right.
What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right. Tetty
  • Score: 6

9:03pm Wed 6 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
Class!...lol
The 2 dunnie dweller appears to after some attention again....bless
Ignore it and it'll disappear back down the sh1tter where it belongs.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?[/p][/quote]Class!...lol The 2 dunnie dweller appears to after some attention again....bless Ignore it and it'll disappear back down the sh1tter where it belongs. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

9:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
This is the sort of post that gives The Clap a bad name. It's the opposite of the over the worst doom-monger posts. I'm one of those who really, really hopes you are right and has confidence in the manager, but how anyone, including the existing squad or anyone, can say that those players are better than some of the best players we had in decades and the best manager we had in decades defies belief. Even Fergie made some incredibly bad signings among the good ones.

I'd prefer to have realistic expectations and have them exceeded. I've seen good managers buy enough bad players to know you can't count your chickens until they've played a Premier League match (they are good footballers those chickens).
[quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]This is the sort of post that gives The Clap a bad name. It's the opposite of the over the worst doom-monger posts. I'm one of those who really, really hopes you are right and has confidence in the manager, but how anyone, including the existing squad or anyone, can say that those players are better than some of the best players we had in decades and the best manager we had in decades defies belief. Even Fergie made some incredibly bad signings among the good ones. I'd prefer to have realistic expectations and have them exceeded. I've seen good managers buy enough bad players to know you can't count your chickens until they've played a Premier League match (they are good footballers those chickens). SaintJD
  • Score: 2

9:08pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Several people on here complaining about loan players, a number of teams did really well with Liam players eg Everton and Sunderland where the loan striker from Liverpool saved them from being relegated .
I personally am ok with this as long as the loan players are good quality.
I see the scousers are already moaning about Lambert I can see him becoming a bench warmer and suggest his England days are over. Such a shame as he was idolised here and was a decent bloke.
Several people on here complaining about loan players, a number of teams did really well with Liam players eg Everton and Sunderland where the loan striker from Liverpool saved them from being relegated . I personally am ok with this as long as the loan players are good quality. I see the scousers are already moaning about Lambert I can see him becoming a bench warmer and suggest his England days are over. Such a shame as he was idolised here and was a decent bloke. Chapperall
  • Score: 7

9:08pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject
Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience
Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject
Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in
Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away
Yeah the board have done brilliantly
YAAAWWNNNNNNNN !

Still having a Football Club ..... Priceless !
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away Yeah the board have done brilliantly[/p][/quote]YAAAWWNNNNNNNN ! Still having a Football Club ..... Priceless ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 7

9:09pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.
I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us...
Doing a good job - did anyone else hear the report on the second goal? Looks like both of them were heavily involved. Got to laugh. For some reason I've got a feeling they'd be decent signings though - all is not well at Celtic so let's do what others have done to us and take advantage.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.[/p][/quote]I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us...[/p][/quote]Doing a good job - did anyone else hear the report on the second goal? Looks like both of them were heavily involved. Got to laugh. For some reason I've got a feeling they'd be decent signings though - all is not well at Celtic so let's do what others have done to us and take advantage. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

9:09pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Celtic 2-0 down. According to Sky Forster and the defence woeful for the 2nd. He doesn't realise it's because they want to come here!
Celtic 2-0 down. According to Sky Forster and the defence woeful for the 2nd. He doesn't realise it's because they want to come here! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

And, while I think about it, whatever happened to that fake sweaty who used to come on here when Wanyama and Hooper were linked? I miss his razor sharp wit.
And, while I think about it, whatever happened to that fake sweaty who used to come on here when Wanyama and Hooper were linked? I miss his razor sharp wit. SaintJD
  • Score: -1

9:11pm Wed 6 Aug 14

knuckle dragger says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
How many goals did Osvaldo score while he was with us? Big money doesn't necessarily mean a player is any good.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]How many goals did Osvaldo score while he was with us? Big money doesn't necessarily mean a player is any good. knuckle dragger
  • Score: 4

9:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Tetty wrote:
What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right.
There is no problem with them.
[quote][p][bold]Tetty[/bold] wrote: What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right.[/p][/quote]There is no problem with them. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

9:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

SaintJD wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though.
Newcastle are now heavily linked to Dijk ...................
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: 35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though.[/p][/quote]Newcastle are now heavily linked to Dijk ................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

9:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

SaintJD wrote:
Tetty wrote:
What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right.
There is no problem with them.
Although steer clear of those wonga guys.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tetty[/bold] wrote: What,s the problem with loans? Everton did all right.[/p][/quote]There is no problem with them.[/p][/quote]Although steer clear of those wonga guys. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

9:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

SaintJD wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.
I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us...
Doing a good job - did anyone else hear the report on the second goal? Looks like both of them were heavily involved. Got to laugh. For some reason I've got a feeling they'd be decent signings though - all is not well at Celtic so let's do what others have done to us and take advantage.
In their hearts they're already at the biggest club in the world.

(better not get any TDs for that!)
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: And does anyone else think it's a bit odd that we're kind of cheering the fifth goal they've conceded so we can buy two of the defenders playing as our defensive lynchpins? Let's just hope it's the players around them, sure it must be.[/p][/quote]I'm sure they're just not trying so they can join us...[/p][/quote]Doing a good job - did anyone else hear the report on the second goal? Looks like both of them were heavily involved. Got to laugh. For some reason I've got a feeling they'd be decent signings though - all is not well at Celtic so let's do what others have done to us and take advantage.[/p][/quote]In their hearts they're already at the biggest club in the world. (better not get any TDs for that!) Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 4

9:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Celtic 2-0 down. According to Sky Forster and the defence woeful for the 2nd. He doesn't realise it's because they want to come here!
How are Bench warmers would have been if we hadn't cashed in on them ........ Demotivated and therefore under achieving !!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Celtic 2-0 down. According to Sky Forster and the defence woeful for the 2nd. He doesn't realise it's because they want to come here![/p][/quote]How are Bench warmers would have been if we hadn't cashed in on them ........ Demotivated and therefore under achieving !! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 7

9:17pm Wed 6 Aug 14

justaSaintsfan says...

costa gaz wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA!
excuse me, But I do the scorecard thank you ;) and it still remains 3-5
Of course I excuse you! We are agreed on that! Lol!

I shall, however, continue posting the latest Neggie Veggie vs Happy Clapper manager/player moves as per usual. I give my loud support to every player when they play for Saints, regardless of whether they are bought, or are from our brilliant youth academy, or are players on loan. The incoming loaned players have come here to play for SFC, so they are therefore included in my score of 5 to the happy clappers and 7 to the neggie veggie merchants of doom.

Come on the happy clappers and up the Saints!!!

By the way, thanks for the "thank you." You're very welcome! Lol!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]Surely Jack Sparrow should be one for the happy clappers? HA![/p][/quote]excuse me, But I do the scorecard thank you ;) and it still remains 3-5[/p][/quote]Of course I excuse you! We are agreed on that! Lol! I shall, however, continue posting the latest Neggie Veggie vs Happy Clapper manager/player moves as per usual. I give my loud support to every player when they play for Saints, regardless of whether they are bought, or are from our brilliant youth academy, or are players on loan. The incoming loaned players have come here to play for SFC, so they are therefore included in my score of 5 to the happy clappers and 7 to the neggie veggie merchants of doom. Come on the happy clappers and up the Saints!!! By the way, thanks for the "thank you." You're very welcome! Lol! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 7

9:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
Negative poster alert!
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first![/p][/quote]Negative poster alert! Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 0

9:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....................



.......
I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players.

The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ).
The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season.
Ho ho
1 In a crowd....pompeys support away from home
Quality ........... Bless him !!
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .................... .......[/p][/quote]I told you all that your club wouldn't part with the money they got from selling the team, it will be nicely invested by the owner. Don't be surprised if all your other vacancies are filled with loan players. The only outstanding items now are will you fill your outstanding vacancies before 17th August and will the newies be able to settle in before the season starts ( very unlikely at this late stage ). The other very important outstanding item of course, is whether the club is sold in the next few months or later in the season.[/p][/quote]Ho ho 1 In a crowd....pompeys support away from home[/p][/quote]Quality ........... Bless him !! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

9:21pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
randre wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
Fellaini.
Boom! lol
Funny though and another example of the fickle world of the football fan.

Fellaini is suddenly absolute dogsh1te when he was unplayable a season ago (wrong club, wrong time).

Dembele - best in the league, should be playing for Man Utd. Now he's dogsh1te.

Ashley Young - total dogsh1te, a couple of good pre-season games under a decent manager and he's acceptable again.

Lallana - awesome, now he's total dogsh1te and everyone we've bought is better than him.

Rodwell - dogsh1te. When we're linked with him and don't get him, we've missed out.

Amazing.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]Fellaini.[/p][/quote]Boom! lol[/p][/quote]Funny though and another example of the fickle world of the football fan. Fellaini is suddenly absolute dogsh1te when he was unplayable a season ago (wrong club, wrong time). Dembele - best in the league, should be playing for Man Utd. Now he's dogsh1te. Ashley Young - total dogsh1te, a couple of good pre-season games under a decent manager and he's acceptable again. Lallana - awesome, now he's total dogsh1te and everyone we've bought is better than him. Rodwell - dogsh1te. When we're linked with him and don't get him, we've missed out. Amazing. SaintJD
  • Score: -2

9:22pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though.
Newcastle are now heavily linked to Dijk ...................
I'm sure there' a great joke here somewhere....
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: 35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]I hope so too, although the van Dijk one I think is more us speculating than anything else - we were linked early on but I thought that all died down and I've only heard Forster linked as late. Hope not though.[/p][/quote]Newcastle are now heavily linked to Dijk ...................[/p][/quote]I'm sure there' a great joke here somewhere.... Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

9:27pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

bstokesaint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold.

Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you.
And don't forget Juan Sebastian Veron who ran around in circles trying to get the ball on his left foot.
[quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold. Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you.[/p][/quote]And don't forget Juan Sebastian Veron who ran around in circles trying to get the ball on his left foot. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

9:31pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?[/p][/quote]How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

9:32pm Wed 6 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Just seen that both Feyenoord and Celtic have both lost tonight.
Need to go and sign Jordy Classie urgently before anyone else does.
However Stephan de Vrij has signed for Lazio so we have missed out on the last of Feyenoord's three World Cup CB's.

Now must go for Forster and van Dijk now. Plus Vlaar or Vermaelen and our defense is sorted.

Then the best Striker we can get as we must score at least 20 more goals next season.

Get to it Les & Ralph, need them in by Saturdays friendly.

COYR&WS
Just seen that both Feyenoord and Celtic have both lost tonight. Need to go and sign Jordy Classie urgently before anyone else does. However Stephan de Vrij has signed for Lazio so we have missed out on the last of Feyenoord's three World Cup CB's. Now must go for Forster and van Dijk now. Plus Vlaar or Vermaelen and our defense is sorted. Then the best Striker we can get as we must score at least 20 more goals next season. Get to it Les & Ralph, need them in by Saturdays friendly. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

9:32pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintmac wrote:
What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player.
I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will
wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that
whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.
Tadic is our left winger with Isted to cover.

Ramirez on the right with Davis to cover

CM Can be covered by a combination of two of the following Scneiderlin, Wannayamoney, Cork, JWP, Reed or Davis if he's not required on the right
Have I forgotten someone?

Wings seem to be covered with what we have but of course that doesn't mean he hasn't someone else in mind we've been linked with several.
I wouldn't moan too loudly if he managed to get Clasie from Feyenoord.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player. I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.[/p][/quote]Tadic is our left winger with Isted to cover. Ramirez on the right with Davis to cover CM Can be covered by a combination of two of the following Scneiderlin, Wannayamoney, Cork, JWP, Reed or Davis if he's not required on the right Have I forgotten someone? Wings seem to be covered with what we have but of course that doesn't mean he hasn't someone else in mind we've been linked with several. I wouldn't moan too loudly if he managed to get Clasie from Feyenoord. jls217
  • Score: 5

9:32pm Wed 6 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

SaintJD wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
randre wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
Fellaini.
Boom! lol
Funny though and another example of the fickle world of the football fan.

Fellaini is suddenly absolute dogsh1te when he was unplayable a season ago (wrong club, wrong time).

Dembele - best in the league, should be playing for Man Utd. Now he's dogsh1te.

Ashley Young - total dogsh1te, a couple of good pre-season games under a decent manager and he's acceptable again.

Lallana - awesome, now he's total dogsh1te and everyone we've bought is better than him.

Rodwell - dogsh1te. When we're linked with him and don't get him, we've missed out.

Amazing.
But true.....lol
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]Fellaini.[/p][/quote]Boom! lol[/p][/quote]Funny though and another example of the fickle world of the football fan. Fellaini is suddenly absolute dogsh1te when he was unplayable a season ago (wrong club, wrong time). Dembele - best in the league, should be playing for Man Utd. Now he's dogsh1te. Ashley Young - total dogsh1te, a couple of good pre-season games under a decent manager and he's acceptable again. Lallana - awesome, now he's total dogsh1te and everyone we've bought is better than him. Rodwell - dogsh1te. When we're linked with him and don't get him, we've missed out. Amazing.[/p][/quote]But true.....lol J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

9:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle.

Happy days.
Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle. Happy days. fascia123
  • Score: 5

9:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Dooorrrset saint says...

So at last some good news, after weeks of silence. Yet there is still so much moaning on here!
I have sat on the fence during this time, though mostly I have found myself wobbling towards the merchant of doom side!
In my opinion there are two types of neggies. There is Mr Seed who is obviously a passionate supporter who looks at the facts and comments his feelings on those facts, and in those comments you can almost feel his despair to what is happening to our great club!
However, unfortunately, there is another type of neggie, Costa gaz, bazultra and some nob called ubunchofmugs, who's only reason for commenting on here is to get a reaction and ultimately to be able to say 'told you so' if things go tits up!
So at last some good news, after weeks of silence. Yet there is still so much moaning on here! I have sat on the fence during this time, though mostly I have found myself wobbling towards the merchant of doom side! In my opinion there are two types of neggies. There is Mr Seed who is obviously a passionate supporter who looks at the facts and comments his feelings on those facts, and in those comments you can almost feel his despair to what is happening to our great club! However, unfortunately, there is another type of neggie, Costa gaz, bazultra and some nob called ubunchofmugs, who's only reason for commenting on here is to get a reaction and ultimately to be able to say 'told you so' if things go tits up! Dooorrrset saint
  • Score: 8

9:34pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Legia Warsaw seem to have some handy players. I see everton were linked with winger Nolito today - just scored a hattrick against them.

Actually, why not just follow everton and swansea's scouts around and just poach the players with bigger bids (that's 90% a joke) Michu, Bony and now Gomis - not bad.
Legia Warsaw seem to have some handy players. I see everton were linked with winger Nolito today - just scored a hattrick against them. Actually, why not just follow everton and swansea's scouts around and just poach the players with bigger bids (that's 90% a joke) Michu, Bony and now Gomis - not bad. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

9:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Got to laugh - Celtic now go into the Europa League playoffs. Can't wait for us to get into Europe - once you're in it's impossibe to get out.
Got to laugh - Celtic now go into the Europa League playoffs. Can't wait for us to get into Europe - once you're in it's impossibe to get out. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

9:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
When this player is the same age as Lallana at the time of the move (which most would say was over inflated price tag anyway) ie 26 years old he may well be considered to be of that value. Liarlanna may have been valued at less than that at 22.
Apples to apples please your comparison makes no sense.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]When this player is the same age as Lallana at the time of the move (which most would say was over inflated price tag anyway) ie 26 years old he may well be considered to be of that value. Liarlanna may have been valued at less than that at 22. Apples to apples please your comparison makes no sense. jls217
  • Score: 4

9:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

fascia123 wrote:
Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle.

Happy days.
Amazing what a couple of Season Tickets will buy nowadays ;-)
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle. Happy days.[/p][/quote]Amazing what a couple of Season Tickets will buy nowadays ;-) Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

9:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

bstokesaint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
bstokesaint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!!
Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m?
If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better.
Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......
Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.
The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand.
They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much
Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.
The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold.

Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you.
And don't forget Juan Sebastian Veron who ran around in circles trying to get the ball on his left foot.
Ha ha. Was going to mention him, but I didn't want to be accused of delving too deep. By today's standards that £28m would probably be between £40m or £50m. Nice if you can afford to blow that sort of cash. We certainly can't!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: So that's another international in to be better than Lielanna. I see Poopey are jumping on the bandwagon now. They've just signed a player on long term loan too. One month !!![/p][/quote]Are you saying that a player valued at £5.5m is better than one valued at £26m? If this theory proves to be correct it will turn football upside down, teams will never have to spend big money ever again because players that cost about 1/5th of the likes of Lallana are obviously going to be better. Why have none of the top teams used this amazing system, they must be stupid......[/p][/quote]Lielanna is English and has just managed to scrape a seat on the bench in an extremely poor England side. The press have fuelled the hype and the player himself now believes he is a big time Charlie. My comment is a bit tongue in cheek but it wouldn't surprise me even slightly if he turns out to be better . Price comparisons_on players are completely meaningless. Lovren for example was worth £8million last year and £20 million this. I also believe that Bertrand could turn out better than Shaw.. If you look at the stats on Shaw they are actually very poor and his fee is made up of hype and expectations of what he could become. As Seed house keeps pointing out our success of last season was based mainly on players we didn't pay a lot for.[/p][/quote]The worlds biggest club thought that Shaw was a better buy than Bertrand. They could have bought Bertrand for around £6m, but chose Shaw for 5x as much Not sure of the amount of major trophies they won over the last 2 decades, but I would value their opinion when it comes to being successful and which of the worlds best players to buy.[/p][/quote]The same Man U that spent £27m on Fellaini and £7m on Bebe (who? Exactly). What about Torres and Carroll? Big money from top clubs. Not all that glitters is gold. Chin up Gaz, you find a little positivity works for you.[/p][/quote]And don't forget Juan Sebastian Veron who ran around in circles trying to get the ball on his left foot.[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Was going to mention him, but I didn't want to be accused of delving too deep. By today's standards that £28m would probably be between £40m or £50m. Nice if you can afford to blow that sort of cash. We certainly can't! bstokesaint
  • Score: 5

9:43pm Wed 6 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just seen that both Feyenoord and Celtic have both lost tonight.
Need to go and sign Jordy Classie urgently before anyone else does.
However Stephan de Vrij has signed for Lazio so we have missed out on the last of Feyenoord's three World Cup CB's.

Now must go for Forster and van Dijk now. Plus Vlaar or Vermaelen and our defense is sorted.

Then the best Striker we can get as we must score at least 20 more goals next season.

Get to it Les & Ralph, need them in by Saturdays friendly.

COYR&WS
Saints are so slow in signing up replacement players, I doubt whether you'll fill the vacancies by the 17th. Saints aren't prepared to spend out, they only want to get players on loan and then sell the club on to somebody else.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just seen that both Feyenoord and Celtic have both lost tonight. Need to go and sign Jordy Classie urgently before anyone else does. However Stephan de Vrij has signed for Lazio so we have missed out on the last of Feyenoord's three World Cup CB's. Now must go for Forster and van Dijk now. Plus Vlaar or Vermaelen and our defense is sorted. Then the best Striker we can get as we must score at least 20 more goals next season. Get to it Les & Ralph, need them in by Saturdays friendly. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Saints are so slow in signing up replacement players, I doubt whether you'll fill the vacancies by the 17th. Saints aren't prepared to spend out, they only want to get players on loan and then sell the club on to somebody else. one in the crowd
  • Score: -17

9:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

knuckle dragger says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!! knuckle dragger
  • Score: 4

9:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle.

Happy days.
Amazing what a couple of Season Tickets will buy nowadays ;-)
Happiness hopefully :-)
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: Just bought my season tickets, so they now have enough money for a couple,of extra signings, Goal Keeper, Top CB possibly two, winger or an Owen/Rooney type to feed off Pelle. Happy days.[/p][/quote]Amazing what a couple of Season Tickets will buy nowadays ;-)[/p][/quote]Happiness hopefully :-) fascia123
  • Score: 5

9:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD says...
"I'd prefer to have realistic expectations and have them exceeded. "

Erm, if your expectations were exceeded then they couldn't have been realistic, could they?
SaintJD says... "I'd prefer to have realistic expectations and have them exceeded. " Erm, if your expectations were exceeded then they couldn't have been realistic, could they? Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

9:48pm Wed 6 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!!
Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!![/p][/quote]Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit? fascia123
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Wed 6 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

"One in the crowd" .....skunts away support......PMSL!!!
"One in the crowd" .....skunts away support......PMSL!!! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

9:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Clever Dick wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.
He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?[/p][/quote]How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.[/p][/quote]He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

10:04pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

nomorerumours wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.
38 minutes - Legia have scored!!!! Almost there!
Legia won 2-0! So, they are now fully available.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: 35 minutes gone and still Celtic 0-0 Legia Walsall. I feel the Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk signings getting closer. Now if Ron Vlaar does leave Villa and ManU do not go for him, then perhaps we can get him too. We might even beat ManU's offer if they do go for him. It might be up to Vlaar to choose between both the Dutch managers he has once played under. He's a natural replacement for Lovren. He would get regular 1st team play with us. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]38 minutes - Legia have scored!!!! Almost there![/p][/quote]Legia won 2-0! So, they are now fully available. nomorerumours
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
saintmac wrote:
What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player.
I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will
wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that
whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.
Tadic is our left winger with Isted to cover.

Ramirez on the right with Davis to cover

CM Can be covered by a combination of two of the following Scneiderlin, Wannayamoney, Cork, JWP, Reed or Davis if he's not required on the right
Have I forgotten someone?

Wings seem to be covered with what we have but of course that doesn't mean he hasn't someone else in mind we've been linked with several.
I wouldn't moan too loudly if he managed to get Clasie from Feyenoord.
Harry Isted is a GK, you meant Lloyd Isgrove of course.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: What about a striker/winger? Anyway, looks a useful player. I have been critical of the Board but in view of the latest statement will wait till 31stAug before passing final judgement. What is important is that whatever or feelings we SUPPORT the team100%. At this stage protests will not help,only sour the atmosphere and affect the players.[/p][/quote]Tadic is our left winger with Isted to cover. Ramirez on the right with Davis to cover CM Can be covered by a combination of two of the following Scneiderlin, Wannayamoney, Cork, JWP, Reed or Davis if he's not required on the right Have I forgotten someone? Wings seem to be covered with what we have but of course that doesn't mean he hasn't someone else in mind we've been linked with several. I wouldn't moan too loudly if he managed to get Clasie from Feyenoord.[/p][/quote]Harry Isted is a GK, you meant Lloyd Isgrove of course. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:17pm Wed 6 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.
He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though.
That'll end up a full time job. They'll be scattered all over skuntsville with all the inbred chavs taking their booze, fags and crisps home in them. He'll be cream crackered come Saturdays
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?[/p][/quote]How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.[/p][/quote]He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though.[/p][/quote]That'll end up a full time job. They'll be scattered all over skuntsville with all the inbred chavs taking their booze, fags and crisps home in them. He'll be cream crackered come Saturdays J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

10:20pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

Loic remey would be a quality signing if jay hernandez cant make it..or mario gomez
Loic remey would be a quality signing if jay hernandez cant make it..or mario gomez Block 42
  • Score: -4

10:22pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wow, another top signing !
Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?
How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.
He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though.
That'll end up a full time job. They'll be scattered all over skuntsville with all the inbred chavs taking their booze, fags and crisps home in them. He'll be cream crackered come Saturdays
Hence the one month contract.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wow, another top signing ![/p][/quote]Are you talking about Paul Robinson from Millwall?[/p][/quote]How desperate as a footballer do you have to be to sign a one month contract. Answer. Very desperate.[/p][/quote]He will be doing part time work as a trolley collector when Tescos opens though.[/p][/quote]That'll end up a full time job. They'll be scattered all over skuntsville with all the inbred chavs taking their booze, fags and crisps home in them. He'll be cream crackered come Saturdays[/p][/quote]Hence the one month contract. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

10:23pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Wigwam8 says...

Another loan signing
loan deals mean nothing
when are you going to spend some of the money Les / freddy
Another loan signing loan deals mean nothing when are you going to spend some of the money Les / freddy Wigwam8
  • Score: -15

10:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Wigwam8 wrote:
Another loan signing
loan deals mean nothing
when are you going to spend some of the money Les / freddy
I keep telling you all, it won't happen. The club will not part with hard cash in any significant amount unless it is absolutely necessary. I'm afraid that if you can't get loan deals then you won't pursue the signing.

Time is running out so if you want to bed in your new players before the season starts again, then time is of the essence surely.
[quote][p][bold]Wigwam8[/bold] wrote: Another loan signing loan deals mean nothing when are you going to spend some of the money Les / freddy[/p][/quote]I keep telling you all, it won't happen. The club will not part with hard cash in any significant amount unless it is absolutely necessary. I'm afraid that if you can't get loan deals then you won't pursue the signing. Time is running out so if you want to bed in your new players before the season starts again, then time is of the essence surely. one in the crowd
  • Score: -5

10:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Blind Faith Believer says...

techsture wrote:
My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight....

Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds.
Very interesting. Just speculation or do you have a reliable tip off?
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight.... Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds.[/p][/quote]Very interesting. Just speculation or do you have a reliable tip off? Blind Faith Believer
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

lillylooper says...

championship here we come
championship here we come lillylooper
  • Score: -10

10:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think!

"Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's.

Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer.

Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire.

Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton."


http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/n
ews/southampton-tran
sfers-jose-fonte-ple
dges-4003545#ixzz39e
QWNea3
well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think! "Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's. Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer. Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire. Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton." http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/southampton-tran sfers-jose-fonte-ple dges-4003545#ixzz39e QWNea3 de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

10:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

lillylooper wrote:
championship here we come
Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever?
[quote][p][bold]lillylooper[/bold] wrote: championship here we come[/p][/quote]Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 7

10:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

lillylooper wrote:
championship here we come
Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever?
[quote][p][bold]lillylooper[/bold] wrote: championship here we come[/p][/quote]Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

10:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Mister E says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think!

"Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's.

Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer.

Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire.

Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton."


http://www.mirror.co

.uk/sport/football/n

ews/southampton-tran

sfers-jose-fonte-ple

dges-4003545#ixzz39e

QWNea3
If true, well done Fonte.
You've got class!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think! "Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's. Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer. Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire. Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton." http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/southampton-tran sfers-jose-fonte-ple dges-4003545#ixzz39e QWNea3[/p][/quote]If true, well done Fonte. You've got class! Mister E
  • Score: 4

10:58pm Wed 6 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

on another note I would have thought the undercover poopey fans on here would be more worried about more people going into their new tescos on a Saturday than into nottarf karp!

wont be long until the whole sites a shopping centre and the team are ground sharing with haven't!
on another note I would have thought the undercover poopey fans on here would be more worried about more people going into their new tescos on a Saturday than into nottarf karp! wont be long until the whole sites a shopping centre and the team are ground sharing with haven't! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 1

10:59pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Dappyduck says...

costa gaz wrote:
YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
NURSE!!!!!! He's out of bed again...
Lol....brilliant....
.nurse!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]NURSE!!!!!! He's out of bed again...[/p][/quote]Lol....brilliant.... .nurse!!!!!!!! Dappyduck
  • Score: 0

11:10pm Wed 6 Aug 14

vidman says...

Blind Faith Believer wrote:
techsture wrote:
My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight....

Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds.
Very interesting. Just speculation or do you have a reliable tip off?
Kruger was on the radio again tonight saying neither MS or JR will leave this year so his job is on the line
[quote][p][bold]Blind Faith Believer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: My man in the know tells me Jordy Clasie has been promised Lamberts shirt and the Captaincy, They are just waiting for Besiktas to finish the job tonight.... Oh and he says Morgan has been told he can go when a replacement is sourced. The deal is already in place with Spuds.[/p][/quote]Very interesting. Just speculation or do you have a reliable tip off?[/p][/quote]Kruger was on the radio again tonight saying neither MS or JR will leave this year so his job is on the line vidman
  • Score: 3

11:10pm Wed 6 Aug 14

truelysaints says...

nomorerumours wrote:
John Gillham wrote:
Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.
Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please!
How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Gillham[/bold] wrote: Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please![/p][/quote]How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion truelysaints
  • Score: -1

11:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

vidman says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
on another note I would have thought the undercover poopey fans on here would be more worried about more people going into their new tescos on a Saturday than into nottarf karp!

wont be long until the whole sites a shopping centre and the team are ground sharing with haven't!
I wonder if Tesco will sell the team shirts at half the price of the official shop
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: on another note I would have thought the undercover poopey fans on here would be more worried about more people going into their new tescos on a Saturday than into nottarf karp! wont be long until the whole sites a shopping centre and the team are ground sharing with haven't![/p][/quote]I wonder if Tesco will sell the team shirts at half the price of the official shop vidman
  • Score: 2

11:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Mister E wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think!

"Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's.

Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer.

Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire.

Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton."


http://www.mirror.co


.uk/sport/football/n


ews/southampton-tran


sfers-jose-fonte-ple


dges-4003545#ixzz39e


QWNea3
If true, well done Fonte.
You've got class!
Say that again,how many players would drop down a division to join a new club.He was sold the dream,believed it,and lived it.Saints Legend.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think! "Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's. Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer. Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire. Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton." http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/southampton-tran sfers-jose-fonte-ple dges-4003545#ixzz39e QWNea3[/p][/quote]If true, well done Fonte. You've got class![/p][/quote]Say that again,how many players would drop down a division to join a new club.He was sold the dream,believed it,and lived it.Saints Legend. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 8

11:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :)
I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :) KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

11:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

vidman says...

truelysaints wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
John Gillham wrote:
Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.
Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please!
How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion
Forster is English.

Wasn't Virgil in Thundebirds
[quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Gillham[/bold] wrote: Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please![/p][/quote]How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion[/p][/quote]Forster is English. Wasn't Virgil in Thundebirds vidman
  • Score: 1

11:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

truelysaints wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
John Gillham wrote:
Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.
Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please!
How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion
Name a few that are available? Plenty coming up through the ranks though, check out the Development Squad and the Academy input.
[quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Gillham[/bold] wrote: Nice one. Now a central defender and full back please, oh and a goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Great news! For starters, how about Ron Vlaar (we may know if he's going to leave Villa within 24 hours), Virgil van Dijk and Fraser Forster (both available within 6 hours if Celtic are knocked out this evening) covering your position requirements nicely - in the order you list them. RonKon has expressed an interest in all 3 - so far more than just media rumours. Next order please![/p][/quote]How about a British player. At his rate we are looking like the foreign legion[/p][/quote]Name a few that are available? Plenty coming up through the ranks though, check out the Development Squad and the Academy input. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :)
Yes, but is he Bleidelis or Pahars? Not sure I've seen reports of him being average, either way, totally different league. They like Os in Italy, so work that one out, and they wanted rid of Courtinho. Hopefully he'll be good.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :)[/p][/quote]Yes, but is he Bleidelis or Pahars? Not sure I've seen reports of him being average, either way, totally different league. They like Os in Italy, so work that one out, and they wanted rid of Courtinho. Hopefully he'll be good. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

11:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

Due to extensive regeneration work being carried out due to the expansion
of Liverpool's Anfield Stadium , any Saints fans visiting Anfield for the match on Sunday 17th August might want to read the following article regarding restriction to access around the stadium.

http://www.liverpool
echo.co.uk/news/live
rpool-news/anfield-s
tadium-development-w
aiting-list-7575234
Due to extensive regeneration work being carried out due to the expansion of Liverpool's Anfield Stadium , any Saints fans visiting Anfield for the match on Sunday 17th August might want to read the following article regarding restriction to access around the stadium. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/news/live rpool-news/anfield-s tadium-development-w aiting-list-7575234 one in the crowd
  • Score: 0

12:18am Thu 7 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

ooooo marian ooooo marian
ooooo marian ooooo marian KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

12:26am Thu 7 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
lillylooper wrote:
championship here we come
Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever?
If ever! I vote never.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lillylooper[/bold] wrote: championship here we come[/p][/quote]Pompey will take years to get back into the Championship, if ever?[/p][/quote]If ever! I vote never. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

12:32am Thu 7 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Due to extensive regeneration work being carried out due to the expansion
of Liverpool's Anfield Stadium , any Saints fans visiting Anfield for the match on Sunday 17th August might want to read the following article regarding restriction to access around the stadium.

http://www.liverpool

echo.co.uk/news/live

rpool-news/anfield-s

tadium-development-w

aiting-list-7575234
searchforoneinthecro
wd, why do you bother? Why do you keep coming onto a saints based forum? What do you get out of it? What pleasure does it give you? Why do you think we care about anything you post? Do you think we believe you are a liverhampton fan?
I can only think of a couple of reasons you keep posting,
1, your a liverhampton fan with no real friends, possible!
2, your a fish pretending to be a liverhampton fan with no real fans and on a wind up, likely!
3, your not a football fan at all and are just a WUM who after seeing that saints had sold some players to liverhampton and thought you would come here on the off chance of winding people up, very likely!
4, your a plant by Brenda and you are on here to see what players we have left that the fans rate so he can bid for some more, probable as I wouldn't put anything past Brenda!
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Due to extensive regeneration work being carried out due to the expansion of Liverpool's Anfield Stadium , any Saints fans visiting Anfield for the match on Sunday 17th August might want to read the following article regarding restriction to access around the stadium. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/news/live rpool-news/anfield-s tadium-development-w aiting-list-7575234[/p][/quote]searchforoneinthecro wd, why do you bother? Why do you keep coming onto a saints based forum? What do you get out of it? What pleasure does it give you? Why do you think we care about anything you post? Do you think we believe you are a liverhampton fan? I can only think of a couple of reasons you keep posting, 1, your a liverhampton fan with no real friends, possible! 2, your a fish pretending to be a liverhampton fan with no real fans and on a wind up, likely! 3, your not a football fan at all and are just a WUM who after seeing that saints had sold some players to liverhampton and thought you would come here on the off chance of winding people up, very likely! 4, your a plant by Brenda and you are on here to see what players we have left that the fans rate so he can bid for some more, probable as I wouldn't put anything past Brenda! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

12:38am Thu 7 Aug 14

lallanasatit says...

A year before lallana was probably worth 4 million no one wanted him so he signed a new 5yr deal, 20 odd good games and 5 great hes worth 25 mil, this guy has a head start, hes worth 5.5mil, were see what outreagus sum of money hes worth in a year, hey he may even last 90 mins!!!
A year before lallana was probably worth 4 million no one wanted him so he signed a new 5yr deal, 20 odd good games and 5 great hes worth 25 mil, this guy has a head start, hes worth 5.5mil, were see what outreagus sum of money hes worth in a year, hey he may even last 90 mins!!! lallanasatit
  • Score: 2

1:46am Thu 7 Aug 14

nysaint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
Graham, North of Watford wrote:
No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan.

I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).
Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR
TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!!
Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider?
Gene Hackman more like it bro, we may yet admire the board and eat our hats but some serious pieces are still missing..CB's, speedy winger and goal poachers ..aahh.
Ummm...J-Rod?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: No idea how good he is and read what you want into another loan. I am delighted that we are moving onwards (albeit at a snail's pace) and I absolutely believe that 1 volunteer is worth a 1,000 pressed men. (Nautical reference for our Pompey friends, chaps).[/p][/quote]Graham, we don,t have any pompey friends. we need to keep a clean gene pool lol COYR[/p][/quote]TFFT..clearly we are not going to change our pressing midfield style, good nice on the eye and brings chances aplenty..however who the crocodile hat is going to bang em in!! Pelle is 'possibly? SRL2. however were is the poacher and speedy Gonzales raider? Gene Hackman more like it bro, we may yet admire the board and eat our hats but some serious pieces are still missing..CB's, speedy winger and goal poachers ..aahh.[/p][/quote]Ummm...J-Rod? nysaint
  • Score: 1

2:11am Thu 7 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
haha nice one. That you uncle?
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first![/p][/quote]haha nice one. That you uncle? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

2:28am Thu 7 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Mister E wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think!

"Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's.

Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer.

Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire.

Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton."


http://www.mirror.co


.uk/sport/football/n


ews/southampton-tran


sfers-jose-fonte-ple


dges-4003545#ixzz39e


QWNea3
If true, well done Fonte.
You've got class!
He may be an ageing player, but you can't put a price on his show of loyalty. Awesome stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well it looks like fonte isn't as unhappy as some think! "Jose Fonte has pledged his future to Southampton after refusing to join the player drain from St Mary's. Portuguese defender Fonte, 30, has given new manager Ronald Koeman a boost by opening talks to extend his Saints deal which runs out next summer. Cardiff made two bids for Fonte and Hull were also interested in adding to Southampton's misery by luring him to Yorkshire. Fonte said: " I am in negotiations to renew my contract. There have been offers from other clubs but I feel happy at Southampton." http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/n ews/southampton-tran sfers-jose-fonte-ple dges-4003545#ixzz39e QWNea3[/p][/quote]If true, well done Fonte. You've got class![/p][/quote]He may be an ageing player, but you can't put a price on his show of loyalty. Awesome stuff. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

3:35am Thu 7 Aug 14

nysaint says...

fascia123 wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!!
Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?
Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!![/p][/quote]Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?[/p][/quote]Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive? nysaint
  • Score: 2

3:49am Thu 7 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
YellowRibbon wrote:
Lambert-Replaced with better player
Lallana-Replaced with better players
Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player
Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway
Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe
MoPo-Replaced
GK-Subject to Europe
Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR
Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject
Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience
Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject
Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in
Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away
Yeah the board have done brilliantly
Well you have a point here! EPL is a different league, some have succeeded but many have failed..... only time will tell whether you are right or not..
The only thing we can do is to hope...and have patience....
I am not too worried about the Chelsea reject as you call it, i would if they were QPR or Leicester rejects...

Like you said, lets keep our expectation low and see where the new squad will take us... Some time it could just be a matter of luck....
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowRibbon[/bold] wrote: Lambert-Replaced with better player Lallana-Replaced with better players Shaw-Replaced MT will be better player Chambers-We had Clyne Anyway Lovren-Relaced if Celtic go out of Europe MoPo-Replaced GK-Subject to Europe Board Have done alright and have gone about their business quietly and confidently, COYR[/p][/quote]Lambert replaced by ageing Italian reject Lallana replaced with a player with no epl experience Shaw replaced by inferior Chelsea reject Chambers let go when it was the only position we had healthy competition in Lovren not replaced with kick off 9days away Yeah the board have done brilliantly[/p][/quote]Well you have a point here! EPL is a different league, some have succeeded but many have failed..... only time will tell whether you are right or not.. The only thing we can do is to hope...and have patience.... I am not too worried about the Chelsea reject as you call it, i would if they were QPR or Leicester rejects... Like you said, lets keep our expectation low and see where the new squad will take us... Some time it could just be a matter of luck.... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 0

4:51am Thu 7 Aug 14

cebu blue says...

Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends.

What a mess!
Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends. What a mess! cebu blue
  • Score: -15

8:40am Thu 7 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

cebu blue wrote:
Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends.

What a mess!
what a jealous knob
[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends. What a mess![/p][/quote]what a jealous knob miltonnroad76
  • Score: 4

8:47am Thu 7 Aug 14

miltonnroad76 says...

nysaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!!
Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?
Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive?
yeah its evens happy clappers 6 ( koeman pelle tadic bertrand taider osvaldo (og)) merchants of doom 6 (mp Rk shaw lama chamberpot lovless) i reckon will be 8 -6 by kick off.
[quote][p][bold]nysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!![/p][/quote]Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?[/p][/quote]Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive?[/p][/quote]yeah its evens happy clappers 6 ( koeman pelle tadic bertrand taider osvaldo (og)) merchants of doom 6 (mp Rk shaw lama chamberpot lovless) i reckon will be 8 -6 by kick off. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 0

8:57am Thu 7 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :)
Yes, but is he Bleidelis or Pahars? Not sure I've seen reports of him being average, either way, totally different league. They like Os in Italy, so work that one out, and they wanted rid of Courtinho. Hopefully he'll be good.
Everything I've read and heard about him suggests he's a little livewire, very aggressive, quick and non stop movement. I have a good mate (Italian) who's a rampant Juve fan and he claims he would be very happy for Juve to have signed him.
Whether he'll cut it in the PL is another story but not sure where these stories that he's no better than average come from. Only time will tell I guess. If he's got half the guile, speed and positioning of Marian I'd be content with the purchase.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: I hope the reports about Saphir Taider being average prove wrong as he progresses with us in the EPL, because he has a lot to live up to with that No: 17 Shirt! We could use a little Latvian right about now :)[/p][/quote]Yes, but is he Bleidelis or Pahars? Not sure I've seen reports of him being average, either way, totally different league. They like Os in Italy, so work that one out, and they wanted rid of Courtinho. Hopefully he'll be good.[/p][/quote]Everything I've read and heard about him suggests he's a little livewire, very aggressive, quick and non stop movement. I have a good mate (Italian) who's a rampant Juve fan and he claims he would be very happy for Juve to have signed him. Whether he'll cut it in the PL is another story but not sure where these stories that he's no better than average come from. Only time will tell I guess. If he's got half the guile, speed and positioning of Marian I'd be content with the purchase. jls217
  • Score: 0

9:13am Thu 7 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

cebu blue wrote:
Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends.

What a mess!
I imagine you are right there. I can imagine the conversations at training now. Big Ron will be saying things like:- "Look lads you are up against RELEGATION candidates again today and they will be fighting for survival. So keep the concentration levels high as we want to maintain our 7 point advantage over Manure and Thievingskiverpool . And by the way lads have you seen where the embarrassment of the south are down in the bagain basement league. They are spending so much time renegotiating all their one month contracts they don't have time for tactics. They are an absolute cert for RELEGATION. We even used to laugh at their antic every week over in Holland. It seems the are a laughing stock all over Europe.
[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends. What a mess![/p][/quote]I imagine you are right there. I can imagine the conversations at training now. Big Ron will be saying things like:- "Look lads you are up against RELEGATION candidates again today and they will be fighting for survival. So keep the concentration levels high as we want to maintain our 7 point advantage over Manure and Thievingskiverpool . And by the way lads have you seen where the embarrassment of the south are down in the bagain basement league. They are spending so much time renegotiating all their one month contracts they don't have time for tactics. They are an absolute cert for RELEGATION. We even used to laugh at their antic every week over in Holland. It seems the are a laughing stock all over Europe. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

1:40pm Thu 7 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Clever Dick wrote:
cebu blue wrote:
Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends.

What a mess!
I imagine you are right there. I can imagine the conversations at training now. Big Ron will be saying things like:- "Look lads you are up against RELEGATION candidates again today and they will be fighting for survival. So keep the concentration levels high as we want to maintain our 7 point advantage over Manure and Thievingskiverpool . And by the way lads have you seen where the embarrassment of the south are down in the bagain basement league. They are spending so much time renegotiating all their one month contracts they don't have time for tactics. They are an absolute cert for RELEGATION. We even used to laugh at their antic every week over in Holland. It seems the are a laughing stock all over Europe.
Boom!! Back of the net.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote: Quick fix to a precarious situation. A team loaded with new foreign players that have had no real time to gel together before the season starts proper next week and a foreign manager that has to become multi-lingual to get his ideas across. Still most foreign players these days speak some english so the word 'relegation' may be a frequent word they will be uttering before the season ends. What a mess![/p][/quote]I imagine you are right there. I can imagine the conversations at training now. Big Ron will be saying things like:- "Look lads you are up against RELEGATION candidates again today and they will be fighting for survival. So keep the concentration levels high as we want to maintain our 7 point advantage over Manure and Thievingskiverpool . And by the way lads have you seen where the embarrassment of the south are down in the bagain basement league. They are spending so much time renegotiating all their one month contracts they don't have time for tactics. They are an absolute cert for RELEGATION. We even used to laugh at their antic every week over in Holland. It seems the are a laughing stock all over Europe.[/p][/quote]Boom!! Back of the net. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Thu 7 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

nysaint wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
Latest score:-

Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider)

Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren,
Osvaldo)

Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!!
You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!!
Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?
Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive?
You're right, Osvaldo's going means double points to the 'Happies'
So, the score is a close 7-6.
But it will come down to the swingometer and the wise old fence sitters and a watching brief.
True judgement always come later.
I know that Saints always struggled most when the 3 L's in L'pool were missing, so that fact alone surely increases their value to us, and the subsequent sell out price may prove their worth to be more than even a madman with someone else's money is willing to shell (suit?) out.
All will become clearer.
Not so sure about a goalkeeper that has spent a long time standing around a breezy backwater watching his mates thrash pub sides and then lets in so many goals when actually tested -just wondering?
I hope we are keeping our powder dry and saving all our spending for that new talisman to wear the Magnificent Seven! (No wage cap please)
Saints Forever.
[quote][p][bold]nysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: Latest score:- Happy Clappers 5 (Koeman, Pelle, Tadic, Bertrand, Taider) Neggie Veggies 7 (Pochettino, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovren, Osvaldo) Come on the happy clappers, only three more scoring moves are needed to overtake all those neggie veggie merchants of doom!!![/p][/quote]You cant count Osvaldo as every Saints fan wants rid of him!![/p][/quote]Targett, ward prowse and other youngsters coming through does that not count as happy clappers or is that stretching it a bit?[/p][/quote]Hang on there... you've got Osvaldo in the wrong list. Aren't we happy to get rid of him? Did anyone think he could stay and do anything positive?[/p][/quote]You're right, Osvaldo's going means double points to the 'Happies' So, the score is a close 7-6. But it will come down to the swingometer and the wise old fence sitters and a watching brief. True judgement always come later. I know that Saints always struggled most when the 3 L's in L'pool were missing, so that fact alone surely increases their value to us, and the subsequent sell out price may prove their worth to be more than even a madman with someone else's money is willing to shell (suit?) out. All will become clearer. Not so sure about a goalkeeper that has spent a long time standing around a breezy backwater watching his mates thrash pub sides and then lets in so many goals when actually tested -just wondering? I hope we are keeping our powder dry and saving all our spending for that new talisman to wear the Magnificent Seven! (No wage cap please) Saints Forever. lowe esteem
  • Score: 2

5:13pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Red&whitearmy says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
You are right I said this at the end of the season, that's why me and the mrs are not renewing are season tickets for the first time in 10 years, sad but true...
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first![/p][/quote]You are right I said this at the end of the season, that's why me and the mrs are not renewing are season tickets for the first time in 10 years, sad but true... Red&whitearmy
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Thu 7 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Red&whitearmy wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah
Thought I'd get it in there first!
You are right I said this at the end of the season, that's why me and the mrs are not renewing are season tickets for the first time in 10 years, sad but true...
Pity you are doing it for the wrong reasons though. That should be "our" season tickets, not "are" by the way, a common but nonetheless very annoying mistake that is made these days. I hope you can get to follow the team some other way and return when the climate seems right. You can take the fan out of Southampton, you will never take Southampton out of the fan, it's a life sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Red&whitearmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Moan moan moan moan, blah blah blah blah, fire sale, she's cashing in, we're all doomed, relegation, why so many loans,moan moan moan, blah Thought I'd get it in there first![/p][/quote]You are right I said this at the end of the season, that's why me and the mrs are not renewing are season tickets for the first time in 10 years, sad but true...[/p][/quote]Pity you are doing it for the wrong reasons though. That should be "our" season tickets, not "are" by the way, a common but nonetheless very annoying mistake that is made these days. I hope you can get to follow the team some other way and return when the climate seems right. You can take the fan out of Southampton, you will never take Southampton out of the fan, it's a life sentence. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

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