Ronald Koeman hails the £10m signing of Fraser Forster from Celtic, but challenges fellow keeper Artur Boruc to compete with him

Koeman: Boruc must try to challenge Forster

Fraser Forster

Artur Boruc

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Saints manager Ronald Koeman believes new signing Fraser Forster will provide the club with an outstanding keeper for years to come – but he has challenged previous number one Artur Boruc to provide him with real competition.

England international Forster arrived in a £10m deal from Celtic at the weekend, and will go straight into the team for Sunday’s Premier League opener against Liverpool.

The 26-year-old replaces Boruc, 34, as the club’s first choice keeper, with the Polish stopper now unlikely to stay beyond next summer, when his contract expires.

But Koeman has asked Boruc to be professional and challenge Forster for his place in the side.

“Everybody knows the situation with Artur Boruc – it’s the last season of his contract – so this is a choice about the future,” the Saints manager told the club’s website.

“I’ve already spoken to Artur, and Fraser Forster comes in as the first goalkeeper. Artur has to give real competition, and I expect that, because that’s the professional way.

“It’s a difficult situation for him, I understand that, but it’s football. We need competition in all of the positions.”

As well as Forster and Boruc, Saints also have club captain Kelvin Davis, 37, and Paulo Gazzaniga, 22, as goalkeeping options.

Speaking about the arrival of Forster, Koeman added: “I’m very happy because he’s a very good goalkeeper.

“He’s England’s third goalkeeper, he has a lot of experience and he’s played at Champions League level.

“The squad is young but, like the other goalkeepers in Kelvin and Artur, he is experienced and we need that type of person in our squad.

“But goalkeepers normally have a longer career than outfield players, so this is about the future,” he continued.

“For the next three, four, five years, we have a very good goalkeeper.”

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9:47am Tue 12 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved
I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived.

Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ...
For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived. Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ... Alicesdad
  • Score: 23

10:03am Tue 12 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Alicesdad wrote:
For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved
I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived.

Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ...
Not sure we had a problem to be honest - thought Boruc has been pretty reliable since he got a regular place.

This is a good move for the future, but clearly we should be aiming to get Boruc signed on a longer contract if at all possible as well - if you want to pick a keeper to move on surely it is Kelvin if we are looking to the future.

We need proper strength on the bench in the keeping position and, if we really are serious about aiming high, you only have to look at the bench at other clubs to see what's required: Vorm and Freidel at Spurs being a ridiculous example of strength in depth (and waste of talent let's be honest).

But I do think that, unless Boruc is just too passionate to sit on the bench and if so good for him, we need to keep hold of him and keep him happy - I can't think of many better options to bail us out if needed.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived. Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ...[/p][/quote]Not sure we had a problem to be honest - thought Boruc has been pretty reliable since he got a regular place. This is a good move for the future, but clearly we should be aiming to get Boruc signed on a longer contract if at all possible as well - if you want to pick a keeper to move on surely it is Kelvin if we are looking to the future. We need proper strength on the bench in the keeping position and, if we really are serious about aiming high, you only have to look at the bench at other clubs to see what's required: Vorm and Freidel at Spurs being a ridiculous example of strength in depth (and waste of talent let's be honest). But I do think that, unless Boruc is just too passionate to sit on the bench and if so good for him, we need to keep hold of him and keep him happy - I can't think of many better options to bail us out if needed. SaintJD
  • Score: 20

10:53am Tue 12 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long? costa gaz
  • Score: 13

11:10am Tue 12 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 11

11:14am Tue 12 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.[/p][/quote]Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 9

11:27am Tue 12 Aug 14

jls217 says...

This can only be good for both keepers. I think Borat takes the lead just - His experience and his shot stopping reflexes are top notch, distribution and command of the box may just go to Forster.
I think Borat has been good for this club if only he were a few years younger. He is a character and has the look of someone who will unexpected at any moment (most keepers are a little batty it seems)
This can only be good for both keepers. I think Borat takes the lead just - His experience and his shot stopping reflexes are top notch, distribution and command of the box may just go to Forster. I think Borat has been good for this club if only he were a few years younger. He is a character and has the look of someone who will unexpected at any moment (most keepers are a little batty it seems) jls217
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11:43am Tue 12 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
This can only be good for both keepers. I think Borat takes the lead just - His experience and his shot stopping reflexes are top notch, distribution and command of the box may just go to Forster.
I think Borat has been good for this club if only he were a few years younger. He is a character and has the look of someone who will unexpected at any moment (most keepers are a little batty it seems)
I agree jls,keepers are sort of like the drummer in a band,they are there to maintain the rhythm, and fill in the spaces,but very often their contribution goes unnoticed and unappreciated, until they make a mistake.
Keith Moon would've been a good keeper..nutty as a fruitcake!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: This can only be good for both keepers. I think Borat takes the lead just - His experience and his shot stopping reflexes are top notch, distribution and command of the box may just go to Forster. I think Borat has been good for this club if only he were a few years younger. He is a character and has the look of someone who will unexpected at any moment (most keepers are a little batty it seems)[/p][/quote]I agree jls,keepers are sort of like the drummer in a band,they are there to maintain the rhythm, and fill in the spaces,but very often their contribution goes unnoticed and unappreciated, until they make a mistake. Keith Moon would've been a good keeper..nutty as a fruitcake! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 7

12:03pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

SaintJD wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved
I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived.

Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ...
Not sure we had a problem to be honest - thought Boruc has been pretty reliable since he got a regular place.

This is a good move for the future, but clearly we should be aiming to get Boruc signed on a longer contract if at all possible as well - if you want to pick a keeper to move on surely it is Kelvin if we are looking to the future.

We need proper strength on the bench in the keeping position and, if we really are serious about aiming high, you only have to look at the bench at other clubs to see what's required: Vorm and Freidel at Spurs being a ridiculous example of strength in depth (and waste of talent let's be honest).

But I do think that, unless Boruc is just too passionate to sit on the bench and if so good for him, we need to keep hold of him and keep him happy - I can't think of many better options to bail us out if needed.
Agree entirely.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: For the fost time in quite a while our "goalkeepr problem" is resolved I am also pleased that Ron has delivered, as this was the first priority when he arrived. Artur is a true larger than life character, but he'll handle it well and probably move on at the end of teh season. But remember it would only take an injury to the new boy for Artur to be back so he needs to stay fit, stay sharp and be the pro we know he is. At least I wont be so worried if our first choice takes a knock, when Artur got injured against Chelsea last season it heralded a very bleak period ...[/p][/quote]Not sure we had a problem to be honest - thought Boruc has been pretty reliable since he got a regular place. This is a good move for the future, but clearly we should be aiming to get Boruc signed on a longer contract if at all possible as well - if you want to pick a keeper to move on surely it is Kelvin if we are looking to the future. We need proper strength on the bench in the keeping position and, if we really are serious about aiming high, you only have to look at the bench at other clubs to see what's required: Vorm and Freidel at Spurs being a ridiculous example of strength in depth (and waste of talent let's be honest). But I do think that, unless Boruc is just too passionate to sit on the bench and if so good for him, we need to keep hold of him and keep him happy - I can't think of many better options to bail us out if needed.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely. Saint Clements
  • Score: 3

12:18pm Tue 12 Aug 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Boruc first choice every time Fraser as back up.
Boruc first choice every time Fraser as back up. u bunch of mugs
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

I'll trust the management team to decide who the best candidate is to start in goal. Unlike other positions keepers don't need to get used to players or systems to slot in. The choice is then who you consider to be the best player. Forster looks very good to me and he will get better too. Overall I like the way Koeman is approaching his task. I also like his firm line with the players. Pochettino appeared to be everyone's mate and had his favourites. Koeman appears to be more the Gaffer with a professional steeliness to pick the player most likely to deliver. I think I prefer his style - we might just win a few more games as a result.
I'll trust the management team to decide who the best candidate is to start in goal. Unlike other positions keepers don't need to get used to players or systems to slot in. The choice is then who you consider to be the best player. Forster looks very good to me and he will get better too. Overall I like the way Koeman is approaching his task. I also like his firm line with the players. Pochettino appeared to be everyone's mate and had his favourites. Koeman appears to be more the Gaffer with a professional steeliness to pick the player most likely to deliver. I think I prefer his style - we might just win a few more games as a result. Shareholder
  • Score: 7

1:10pm Tue 12 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
This is a FANTASTIC time for Saints - 2 x Number 1 Keepers.

NEED to keep 2 x Number One Keepers and give rotation in Cup Competitions.

Without the popular Artur - we would be left again vulnerable to losing League points and Cup Games due to having Kelv and Rabbit in the headlights Gazza.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]This is a FANTASTIC time for Saints - 2 x Number 1 Keepers. NEED to keep 2 x Number One Keepers and give rotation in Cup Competitions. Without the popular Artur - we would be left again vulnerable to losing League points and Cup Games due to having Kelv and Rabbit in the headlights Gazza. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 8

1:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?
Second Guessing the old bird of prey:

1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already?
2) In situ.
3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL)
4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF.

Although, 'management' may be thinking:

1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for.
2) Don't fancy AB anyway.
3) See how AB responds?
4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds.

As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'.

Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.[/p][/quote]Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?[/p][/quote]Second Guessing the old bird of prey: 1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already? 2) In situ. 3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL) 4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF. Although, 'management' may be thinking: 1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for. 2) Don't fancy AB anyway. 3) See how AB responds? 4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds. As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'. Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's! lowe esteem
  • Score: 3

1:54pm Tue 12 Aug 14

george chivers says...

costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
yep spot on.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]yep spot on. george chivers
  • Score: 4

2:06pm Tue 12 Aug 14

george chivers says...

costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him.

Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him. Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it. george chivers
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Tue 12 Aug 14

SaintJoeBhoy says...

costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
As a Celtic fan myself I would have to agree with you. In my opinion Boruc is arguably the best keeper in the premier league (but then I am biased!!)

You have signed a fantastic keeper in Forster who will go on to become england number 1, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. One criticism of Forster is that at times for a guy his size (I believe he's 6,7) he doesn't common his box as well as you would expect from a keeper his size!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]As a Celtic fan myself I would have to agree with you. In my opinion Boruc is arguably the best keeper in the premier league (but then I am biased!!) You have signed a fantastic keeper in Forster who will go on to become england number 1, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. One criticism of Forster is that at times for a guy his size (I believe he's 6,7) he doesn't common his box as well as you would expect from a keeper his size!! SaintJoeBhoy
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Tue 12 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?
Second Guessing the old bird of prey:

1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already?
2) In situ.
3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL)
4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF.

Although, 'management' may be thinking:

1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for.
2) Don't fancy AB anyway.
3) See how AB responds?
4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds.

As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'.

Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's!
CHOOSING the Keeper will be critical.

Expect Liverpool to go on the Attack for a prolonged onslaught ....

a TOP KEEPER and TOP DEFENCE needed.

Need a to sign a STRIKER for Pelle to work with - We need GOALS in our Team.

How is the bid for the Leeds lad coming on ? COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.[/p][/quote]Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?[/p][/quote]Second Guessing the old bird of prey: 1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already? 2) In situ. 3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL) 4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF. Although, 'management' may be thinking: 1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for. 2) Don't fancy AB anyway. 3) See how AB responds? 4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds. As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'. Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's![/p][/quote]CHOOSING the Keeper will be critical. Expect Liverpool to go on the Attack for a prolonged onslaught .... a TOP KEEPER and TOP DEFENCE needed. Need a to sign a STRIKER for Pelle to work with - We need GOALS in our Team. How is the bid for the Leeds lad coming on ? COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mack chinnon says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
This is a FANTASTIC time for Saints - 2 x Number 1 Keepers. NEED to keep 2 x Number One Keepers and give rotation in Cup Competitions. Without the popular Artur - we would be left again vulnerable to losing League points and Cup Games due to having Kelv and Rabbit in the headlights Gazza.
I rate Gazza.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]This is a FANTASTIC time for Saints - 2 x Number 1 Keepers. NEED to keep 2 x Number One Keepers and give rotation in Cup Competitions. Without the popular Artur - we would be left again vulnerable to losing League points and Cup Games due to having Kelv and Rabbit in the headlights Gazza.[/p][/quote]I rate Gazza. mack chinnon
  • Score: -1

3:23pm Tue 12 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

I think I would be pretty p**** off if I were Artur. don't know what else he could have done last season tbh. If he decides he's off at the January transfer window ie some big club make a move for him ...... we 'll be left without back up again. I'm not really sure we ,ve done the right thing here; as has been said by many on here we need a striker, a real good one. GOALS are what will determin what knd of season we'll have..... not a top rated goalkeeper. Fingers crossed we get onbefore Sept 1
I think I would be pretty p**** off if I were Artur. don't know what else he could have done last season tbh. If he decides he's off at the January transfer window ie some big club make a move for him ...... we 'll be left without back up again. I'm not really sure we ,ve done the right thing here; as has been said by many on here we need a striker, a real good one. GOALS are what will determin what knd of season we'll have..... not a top rated goalkeeper. Fingers crossed we get onbefore Sept 1 GHamilton
  • Score: 1

3:43pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

GHamilton wrote:
I think I would be pretty p**** off if I were Artur. don't know what else he could have done last season tbh. If he decides he's off at the January transfer window ie some big club make a move for him ...... we 'll be left without back up again. I'm not really sure we ,ve done the right thing here; as has been said by many on here we need a striker, a real good one. GOALS are what will determin what knd of season we'll have..... not a top rated goalkeeper. Fingers crossed we get onbefore Sept 1
They may be thinking long term,bearing in mind Artur's age,there's no argument that competent back up was required,and Gazza wasn't it.
Good signing if we can keep Artur,otherwise we are back to square one again.
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: I think I would be pretty p**** off if I were Artur. don't know what else he could have done last season tbh. If he decides he's off at the January transfer window ie some big club make a move for him ...... we 'll be left without back up again. I'm not really sure we ,ve done the right thing here; as has been said by many on here we need a striker, a real good one. GOALS are what will determin what knd of season we'll have..... not a top rated goalkeeper. Fingers crossed we get onbefore Sept 1[/p][/quote]They may be thinking long term,bearing in mind Artur's age,there's no argument that competent back up was required,and Gazza wasn't it. Good signing if we can keep Artur,otherwise we are back to square one again. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

3:46pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Now we have two good keepers I would suggest sending Gazza out on loan may help improve his game, otherwise I doubt if he wiill make the grade. He lacks confidence and thus affects not only his performance but the whole defence. Either do this or offload!
Having two keepers fighting to play in the first team will be good for competition. Just hope Boruc takes it ok as I thought he looked a bit lack lustre on Saturday
Now we have two good keepers I would suggest sending Gazza out on loan may help improve his game, otherwise I doubt if he wiill make the grade. He lacks confidence and thus affects not only his performance but the whole defence. Either do this or offload! Having two keepers fighting to play in the first team will be good for competition. Just hope Boruc takes it ok as I thought he looked a bit lack lustre on Saturday Chapperall
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3:50pm Tue 12 Aug 14

GHamilton says...

That's exactly my point Pos....if he leaves were back to square one like you say. I think Boruc would have ben good for another three years, maybe more, I wonder just how long term their thinking?
That's exactly my point Pos....if he leaves were back to square one like you say. I think Boruc would have ben good for another three years, maybe more, I wonder just how long term their thinking? GHamilton
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Tue 12 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?
Mostly out of sentiment rather than for football reasons! It wouldn't make sense spending all that money and not getting your moneys worth, I fear Artur won't want to play second fiddle, but if he played Sunday he might think twice.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.[/p][/quote]Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?[/p][/quote]Mostly out of sentiment rather than for football reasons! It wouldn't make sense spending all that money and not getting your moneys worth, I fear Artur won't want to play second fiddle, but if he played Sunday he might think twice. OSPREYSAINT
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6:35pm Tue 12 Aug 14

slatts1 says...

george chivers wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him.

Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it.
not win it could have hit a kid .. players should not throw things in crowed (unless it at pomey ) any more then fans should throw things on pitch (again unless it pompy lol
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him. Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it.[/p][/quote]not win it could have hit a kid .. players should not throw things in crowed (unless it at pomey ) any more then fans should throw things on pitch (again unless it pompy lol slatts1
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6:37pm Tue 12 Aug 14

slatts1 says...

slatts1 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same.
Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks.
So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt.

Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?
Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him.

Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it.
not win it could have hit a kid .. players should not throw things in crowed (unless it at pomey ) any more then fans should throw things on pitch (again unless it pompy lol
when not win lol
[quote][p][bold]slatts1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Imho Boruc is the better of the two, and most Celtic fans will say the same. Apart from two high profile ****-ups he was brilliant last season and the back four were far more confident with him between the sticks. So Koeman should be saying that it is up to Forster to challenge Boruc for the shirt. Great to have two decent keepers, but for how long?[/p][/quote]Ditto. Artur Boruc is a real goalkeeper, a proper professional keeper. I loved the way he threw the water bottle into the crowd when he was wrongly criticised for letting in a goal. It was down to Danny Fox getting beaten, not Artur's mistake. I would have given him another half dozen bottles to throw into the crowd. I certainly wouldn't have suspended him. Forster has got a lot to beat. Especially the management of the back four, shot stopping and covering the near post. I hope he is up to it.[/p][/quote]not win it could have hit a kid .. players should not throw things in crowed (unless it at pomey ) any more then fans should throw things on pitch (again unless it pompy lol[/p][/quote]when not win lol slatts1
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6:42pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

GHamilton wrote:
That's exactly my point Pos....if he leaves were back to square one like you say. I think Boruc would have ben good for another three years, maybe more, I wonder just how long term their thinking?
Yes,and in the current situation,that qestion could prove to be more prophetictically relevant than we may imagine..who knows?
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: That's exactly my point Pos....if he leaves were back to square one like you say. I think Boruc would have ben good for another three years, maybe more, I wonder just how long term their thinking?[/p][/quote]Yes,and in the current situation,that qestion could prove to be more prophetictically relevant than we may imagine..who knows? Positively4thStreet
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11:28pm Tue 12 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.
Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?
Second Guessing the old bird of prey:

1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already?
2) In situ.
3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL)
4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF.

Although, 'management' may be thinking:

1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for.
2) Don't fancy AB anyway.
3) See how AB responds?
4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds.

As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'.

Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's!
CHOOSING the Keeper will be critical.

Expect Liverpool to go on the Attack for a prolonged onslaught ....

a TOP KEEPER and TOP DEFENCE needed.

Need a to sign a STRIKER for Pelle to work with - We need GOALS in our Team.

How is the bid for the Leeds lad coming on ? COYR+WS
Saints have left it a bit late in the day to get a top striker and a couple of top class defenders, other clubs know this and will screw Saints for as much as they can get.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Artur would be my choice for the Liverpool game for a number of reasons.[/p][/quote]Well don't leave me in suspense Osprey...what are they!?[/p][/quote]Second Guessing the old bird of prey: 1) Coordination of defence. Enough changes already? 2) In situ. 3) Initially far more experience (of us and PL) 4) 'Jet Lag' etc. Settling in time for FF. Although, 'management' may be thinking: 1) Get 'our choice' in asap. It's what we bought him for. 2) Don't fancy AB anyway. 3) See how AB responds? 4) Set up team as 'our plan' with FF at it's base. See how he responds. As ever, we will 'trust' and support our manager, though the club must understand we are very wary of this commitment, given our past experiences, we are fragile and don't want to 'get caught on the rebound'. Folk hero status already awaits the team of opening day victors over Liverpool with three L's![/p][/quote]CHOOSING the Keeper will be critical. Expect Liverpool to go on the Attack for a prolonged onslaught .... a TOP KEEPER and TOP DEFENCE needed. Need a to sign a STRIKER for Pelle to work with - We need GOALS in our Team. How is the bid for the Leeds lad coming on ? COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Saints have left it a bit late in the day to get a top striker and a couple of top class defenders, other clubs know this and will screw Saints for as much as they can get. one in the crowd
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