Board set Saints ambition says Lambert

Rickie Lambert

Rickie Lambert

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Rickie Lambert has backed Dejan Lovren after the centre half received stick from Saints fans during his Liverpool debut at the weekend, and said the board deserve scrutiny over the reasons for the summer departures as well as the players.

Both players moved from Saints to Liverpool, but their receptions were very different.

Lambert was given a hero’s welcome to Anfield from Saints fans at yesterday-s 2-1 defeat, while Lovren, who departed for £20m, was given abuse throughout.

Saints goalscoring hero Lambert has backed Lovren to recover from it and said the players have unfairly got all the stick for the summer of departures from St Mary’s.

“[Lovren'll] be okay," said Lambert.

"Obviously, a few of the players have took a bit of stick. They'll take it, that's football. It's been surprising that it's all been the players and none on the owners, which I have found a bit surprising.

"There's obviously a reason why the gaffer [Pochettino] went and I think that was the moment that it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be."

He added: “I love Southampton fans, I've got a good relationship with them, so it was nice that they acknowledged me in the way they did," the England man enthused.

"I tried to acknowledge them back in the same manner, the same kind of respect. I've got nothing but respect for Southampton, the players and the fans."

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2:55pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Stnana says...

Here we go again Echo, no better than Tony Husband who couldn't wait to tweet this !
Here we go again Echo, no better than Tony Husband who couldn't wait to tweet this ! Stnana
  • Score: -3

2:56pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Southampton boy says...

A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game Southampton boy
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Zootopian says...

Stnana wrote:
Here we go again Echo, no better than Tony Husband who couldn't wait to tweet this !
Yeah, it's the Echo's fault someone said something you don't like.

Grow up, please and stop seeing 'agendas' just because you don't like something.
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Here we go again Echo, no better than Tony Husband who couldn't wait to tweet this ![/p][/quote]Yeah, it's the Echo's fault someone said something you don't like. Grow up, please and stop seeing 'agendas' just because you don't like something. Zootopian
  • Score: 23

2:58pm Mon 18 Aug 14

prawn89 says...

Bit disappointing to hear this, but, being honest, is it not what many of us spent most of summer thinking?

To be fair to the new board, we have a higher-profile manager (who has actually achieved things in football) and still look like we have a squad to be competitive.

That said, it would have been nice to have kept at least some of the guys from last year. Lallana had to move now while he can still improve, Lambert - fair enough, Shaw - overrated and got an excellent price. Lovren and Chambers - not sure. Think we should have done more to keep them, personally considering how glaringly we are weak at the back.

I blame Poch, tbf. He led us (and the board) a merry dance and jumped at the first chance. The board were convinced that he was staying. It all started with that man's lie and us believing it!
Bit disappointing to hear this, but, being honest, is it not what many of us spent most of summer thinking? To be fair to the new board, we have a higher-profile manager (who has actually achieved things in football) and still look like we have a squad to be competitive. That said, it would have been nice to have kept at least some of the guys from last year. Lallana had to move now while he can still improve, Lambert - fair enough, Shaw - overrated and got an excellent price. Lovren and Chambers - not sure. Think we should have done more to keep them, personally considering how glaringly we are weak at the back. I blame Poch, tbf. He led us (and the board) a merry dance and jumped at the first chance. The board were convinced that he was staying. It all started with that man's lie and us believing it! prawn89
  • Score: 80

3:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

THE12THMAN says...

S**t stirring again, give it a rest DE, you are boring people now with your constant drivel.
S**t stirring again, give it a rest DE, you are boring people now with your constant drivel. THE12THMAN
  • Score: -19

3:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

Get real Rickie.Even allowing for the fact that you are a scouser your interview shows that you are way off the mark.
If you think that Judas Louvren was given unfair stick just wait until he returns to St Marys with Liverpool.
The reason Poxytino went was because he is a greedy barsteward.Like Adam Lala and the loathsome Louvren.Plus Fatboy Shaw.
Like most fans I think Lambert deserved his dream move but it is a bit rich of him to dis the board and owner.
Thanks for the memories Rickie but by the end of the season Saints will be above Liverpool in the league positions.
COME ON YOU SAINTS. UPWARDS AND ONWARDS.
Get real Rickie.Even allowing for the fact that you are a scouser your interview shows that you are way off the mark. If you think that Judas Louvren was given unfair stick just wait until he returns to St Marys with Liverpool. The reason Poxytino went was because he is a greedy barsteward.Like Adam Lala and the loathsome Louvren.Plus Fatboy Shaw. Like most fans I think Lambert deserved his dream move but it is a bit rich of him to dis the board and owner. Thanks for the memories Rickie but by the end of the season Saints will be above Liverpool in the league positions. COME ON YOU SAINTS. UPWARDS AND ONWARDS. CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 83

3:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

markodarko29 says...

But Ricky where is your ambition to sit on the bench all season with a big fat pay packet and be sold to a championship side next season
But Ricky where is your ambition to sit on the bench all season with a big fat pay packet and be sold to a championship side next season markodarko29
  • Score: 67

3:31pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky.
What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included.
The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert.
There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger.
I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.
Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck. jls217
  • Score: 116

3:34pm Mon 18 Aug 14

milton road says...

I actually think it was decided a while ago by certain people than Shaw and Lallana would be allowed to go to allow us to rebuild and possibly Chambers. This may well be the reason why both Cortese and Pochettino left. added to the fact that KL wanted at least some control on the club's finances. RL was always going to be allowed to leave, if it was not for Osvlado's antics and Cortese leaving he would probably have been allowed to go in January to WH as reported. Glad he went to his dream club not WH.
That was where it was meant to end but Lovren took it to another level.
No one can blame the fans for feeling betrayed by both board and players. its always left for the supporters of every club whether its Saints or um... yes those down the road Pompey to pick up the collateral damage left by board and players.
The thing is if the board come out producing a better team and giving us a better manager, then they will be forgiven but for the likes of Adam and Dijan they will all ways be looked upon as the pariahs who walked away when we were on the verge of something. Pochettino as a judas who held us dangling on a thread for months when he knew he was going to leave. Unfortunately this is how it looks.
We had a manager who did not like the Europa Cup who twice took a cup team so weakened to Sunderland, in one of the matches after Cortese had left. In a match that with a full team we could of won and arguably have got to the final, got us knocked out and then went to Spurs who had the Europa cup advantage that he so hated. One has to understand that is how it looks to many fans. Is it a surprise the fans see a sense of betrayal.
I have to admit being an old man I am philosophical about it, yet many will see Pochettino as the manager that denied Saints their destiny. Whether it was on purpose or not.
Such is football, its passionate, emotive did Lovren expect roses and chocolates?
Ye one can understand Shaw going to a degree I mean we are talking 6 million a season and personally in my view he would of been mad not to go. In five years he will earn more than Utd paid for him.
Adam its hard cos he was Southampton's son and many fans feel like a member of the family just walked away from them, when he should of stayed and shown leadership.
All I want is Saints to be a progressive good club I want so see them play good football and the club to be united and happy again, those that have gone, have gone, its time to close a chapter open another and move on.
I actually think it was decided a while ago by certain people than Shaw and Lallana would be allowed to go to allow us to rebuild and possibly Chambers. This may well be the reason why both Cortese and Pochettino left. added to the fact that KL wanted at least some control on the club's finances. RL was always going to be allowed to leave, if it was not for Osvlado's antics and Cortese leaving he would probably have been allowed to go in January to WH as reported. Glad he went to his dream club not WH. That was where it was meant to end but Lovren took it to another level. No one can blame the fans for feeling betrayed by both board and players. its always left for the supporters of every club whether its Saints or um... yes those down the road Pompey to pick up the collateral damage left by board and players. The thing is if the board come out producing a better team and giving us a better manager, then they will be forgiven but for the likes of Adam and Dijan they will all ways be looked upon as the pariahs who walked away when we were on the verge of something. Pochettino as a judas who held us dangling on a thread for months when he knew he was going to leave. Unfortunately this is how it looks. We had a manager who did not like the Europa Cup who twice took a cup team so weakened to Sunderland, in one of the matches after Cortese had left. In a match that with a full team we could of won and arguably have got to the final, got us knocked out and then went to Spurs who had the Europa cup advantage that he so hated. One has to understand that is how it looks to many fans. Is it a surprise the fans see a sense of betrayal. I have to admit being an old man I am philosophical about it, yet many will see Pochettino as the manager that denied Saints their destiny. Whether it was on purpose or not. Such is football, its passionate, emotive did Lovren expect roses and chocolates? Ye one can understand Shaw going to a degree I mean we are talking 6 million a season and personally in my view he would of been mad not to go. In five years he will earn more than Utd paid for him. Adam its hard cos he was Southampton's son and many fans feel like a member of the family just walked away from them, when he should of stayed and shown leadership. All I want is Saints to be a progressive good club I want so see them play good football and the club to be united and happy again, those that have gone, have gone, its time to close a chapter open another and move on. milton road
  • Score: 79

3:35pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SwissToni says...

This is a daft comment made by Ricky. He says that the blame should be shouldered by the board. Perhaps, for some small naïveté, such as expecting players to be remain loyal to their contracts.

However, Ricky has not considered the following,
1. Both Lallana and Shaw we're wanting moves away prior to the World Cup, neither willing to wait and discuss options with the club,
2. None of the players were wanting to see who the board appointed in Pochettino's place and to see what kind of ambition he had,
3. Open courting being performed by managers and agents, causing destabilisation of those left behind,
4. Bigger pay packets due to so called fair play rules, ensuring that the club would not be able to match or even exceed offers on the table,
5. Quick route to glories in the champions league, for players who only managed to get to 8th in the table. Hardly deserving the opportunity to do so, in my opinion,
6. Acting like babies throwing their toys out of the cot, because their heads seem to be unattached to their bodies and are lost in another city,

Ricky would be wise to realise that he is a legend at Southampton, that his former paymasters granted him the opportunity to speak with his childhood heroes about the move he subsequently made. It would be wise for him to not do anything to tarnish his reputation here, particularly with his half baked/one sided opinions.
This is a daft comment made by Ricky. He says that the blame should be shouldered by the board. Perhaps, for some small naïveté, such as expecting players to be remain loyal to their contracts. However, Ricky has not considered the following, 1. Both Lallana and Shaw we're wanting moves away prior to the World Cup, neither willing to wait and discuss options with the club, 2. None of the players were wanting to see who the board appointed in Pochettino's place and to see what kind of ambition he had, 3. Open courting being performed by managers and agents, causing destabilisation of those left behind, 4. Bigger pay packets due to so called fair play rules, ensuring that the club would not be able to match or even exceed offers on the table, 5. Quick route to glories in the champions league, for players who only managed to get to 8th in the table. Hardly deserving the opportunity to do so, in my opinion, 6. Acting like babies throwing their toys out of the cot, because their heads seem to be unattached to their bodies and are lost in another city, Ricky would be wise to realise that he is a legend at Southampton, that his former paymasters granted him the opportunity to speak with his childhood heroes about the move he subsequently made. It would be wise for him to not do anything to tarnish his reputation here, particularly with his half baked/one sided opinions. SwissToni
  • Score: 101

3:36pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Southampton boy wrote:
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then.
We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game[/p][/quote]We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then. We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever. jls217
  • Score: 34

3:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

garyom71 says...

What exactly is this ambition supposed to consist of? All the players have moved to top four or five clubs or thereabouts. There is no way we can compete with the budgets that these teams have and will continue to have. Do we really expect our board to spend the kinds fees for players that these teams do? We were top of our league last year and it will be tough year on year to maintain that level. Time will tell but so far the board are making a fist of it and re-investing the funds generated. We only have to look 20 miles left to see where over ambition can take you.
What exactly is this ambition supposed to consist of? All the players have moved to top four or five clubs or thereabouts. There is no way we can compete with the budgets that these teams have and will continue to have. Do we really expect our board to spend the kinds fees for players that these teams do? We were top of our league last year and it will be tough year on year to maintain that level. Time will tell but so far the board are making a fist of it and re-investing the funds generated. We only have to look 20 miles left to see where over ambition can take you. garyom71
  • Score: 33

3:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

TGodSFC says...

I got a few responses from Tony Husband via twitter about this, doesn’t think Ricky meant anything bad about this, just voicing his opinion. I still don’t think he knows what he’s talking about, pretty sure we’ve all been slagging off Les Reed all summer long as well as certain players.
Ricky interview on sky before the game was good, seemed very humble.
I got a few responses from Tony Husband via twitter about this, doesn’t think Ricky meant anything bad about this, just voicing his opinion. I still don’t think he knows what he’s talking about, pretty sure we’ve all been slagging off Les Reed all summer long as well as certain players. Ricky interview on sky before the game was good, seemed very humble. TGodSFC
  • Score: 11

3:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notaclue says...

prawn89 wrote:
Bit disappointing to hear this, but, being honest, is it not what many of us spent most of summer thinking?

To be fair to the new board, we have a higher-profile manager (who has actually achieved things in football) and still look like we have a squad to be competitive.

That said, it would have been nice to have kept at least some of the guys from last year. Lallana had to move now while he can still improve, Lambert - fair enough, Shaw - overrated and got an excellent price. Lovren and Chambers - not sure. Think we should have done more to keep them, personally considering how glaringly we are weak at the back.

I blame Poch, tbf. He led us (and the board) a merry dance and jumped at the first chance. The board were convinced that he was staying. It all started with that man's lie and us believing it!
Poch would have left sooner, he was just waiting to see if there were any "better" offers out there for him.

ANYWAY its behind us now!

I love Rickie but he also said he didn't know why the owners hadn't got more stick.
KL has owned this club for the past four years and she deserves nothing but praise for the excellent job she has done.
She would need to invest at least another £200m to sustain us in the CL and she wouldn't be allowed to do that by the rules even if she wanted to.
[quote][p][bold]prawn89[/bold] wrote: Bit disappointing to hear this, but, being honest, is it not what many of us spent most of summer thinking? To be fair to the new board, we have a higher-profile manager (who has actually achieved things in football) and still look like we have a squad to be competitive. That said, it would have been nice to have kept at least some of the guys from last year. Lallana had to move now while he can still improve, Lambert - fair enough, Shaw - overrated and got an excellent price. Lovren and Chambers - not sure. Think we should have done more to keep them, personally considering how glaringly we are weak at the back. I blame Poch, tbf. He led us (and the board) a merry dance and jumped at the first chance. The board were convinced that he was staying. It all started with that man's lie and us believing it![/p][/quote]Poch would have left sooner, he was just waiting to see if there were any "better" offers out there for him. ANYWAY its behind us now! I love Rickie but he also said he didn't know why the owners hadn't got more stick. KL has owned this club for the past four years and she deserves nothing but praise for the excellent job she has done. She would need to invest at least another £200m to sustain us in the CL and she wouldn't be allowed to do that by the rules even if she wanted to. notaclue
  • Score: 50

3:59pm Mon 18 Aug 14

KSO16R says...

Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while. KSO16R
  • Score: 51

4:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

cpnhadock says...

I love RL but he isn't our player anymore and as such I do not care what he wants to say in showing support of the judas F&£ks Lovren and Lanna.

What has happened has happened and our club is still top flight and as exciting as ever!!!! At least now we have a manager that speaks English (not bull5hit) - and he has made his long term relations with the club clear!

As for the players that have left - our wage bill is at a manageable level and we are not being blackmailed or bullied.

Maybe lambert, Lanna and lovscum should focus on securing fourth - without it, there will be hell to pay with the investment that Liverpool have made this summer!

Coyr!!!!!
I love RL but he isn't our player anymore and as such I do not care what he wants to say in showing support of the judas F&£ks Lovren and Lanna. What has happened has happened and our club is still top flight and as exciting as ever!!!! At least now we have a manager that speaks English (not bull5hit) - and he has made his long term relations with the club clear! As for the players that have left - our wage bill is at a manageable level and we are not being blackmailed or bullied. Maybe lambert, Lanna and lovscum should focus on securing fourth - without it, there will be hell to pay with the investment that Liverpool have made this summer! Coyr!!!!! cpnhadock
  • Score: 30

4:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

The way SOME fans went crazy cheering for Lambert, during the game, was stupid. He came on and got a great reception from the Saints fans, no doubt lifting the Liverpool team. They then scored about 5 minutes after he came on. Fair enough cheer him after the game but to spur him on during the match was stupid. Why does he deserve such a reception? He left to go to a bigger club on more money. Understandable but he happens to support a very big club. Would he have signed for Saints and left Liverpool if it was the other way round? And now he is sticking up for Lovren after he said what a big club Liverpool are meaning Saints are not. Lambert obviously agrees! Lambert did a great job for us and I clapped him at the end. But some unintelligent Saints fans spurred Liverpool onto victory during the match. We should have put him off not made him feel comfortable! Points for our team are more important than our feelings for a player that left us for a bigger club and more money. He is now agreeing with all those who left! Oh dear the POCH lovers can't get over a change of management on their 20k a week! Lambert you did great for us but concentrate on your own team in stead of causing trouble for the players we have got!!!!!!!! ONE JOSE FONTE!!!
The way SOME fans went crazy cheering for Lambert, during the game, was stupid. He came on and got a great reception from the Saints fans, no doubt lifting the Liverpool team. They then scored about 5 minutes after he came on. Fair enough cheer him after the game but to spur him on during the match was stupid. Why does he deserve such a reception? He left to go to a bigger club on more money. Understandable but he happens to support a very big club. Would he have signed for Saints and left Liverpool if it was the other way round? And now he is sticking up for Lovren after he said what a big club Liverpool are meaning Saints are not. Lambert obviously agrees! Lambert did a great job for us and I clapped him at the end. But some unintelligent Saints fans spurred Liverpool onto victory during the match. We should have put him off not made him feel comfortable! Points for our team are more important than our feelings for a player that left us for a bigger club and more money. He is now agreeing with all those who left! Oh dear the POCH lovers can't get over a change of management on their 20k a week! Lambert you did great for us but concentrate on your own team in stead of causing trouble for the players we have got!!!!!!!! ONE JOSE FONTE!!! footballfan123
  • Score: 45

4:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

spratt says...

I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order.
I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order. spratt
  • Score: 42

4:29pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away. costa gaz
  • Score: -80

4:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way. footballfan123
  • Score: 35

4:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said.
He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!!
Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said. He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!! costa gaz
  • Score: -43

4:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

KSO16R wrote:
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here.

May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it!

It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering.

But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January.

We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe.

Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.[/p][/quote]KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here. May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it! It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering. But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January. We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe. Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk? saintbobby
  • Score: 17

4:53pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going. costa gaz
  • Score: -35

4:58pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Muttdogg says...

Lallana and Lovren deserve the abuse from the fans, and am looking forward to piling it on whent they come to St Marys. No more chearing for Lambert though please, we've done that now move on (he's never coming back).
Lallana and Lovren deserve the abuse from the fans, and am looking forward to piling it on whent they come to St Marys. No more chearing for Lambert though please, we've done that now move on (he's never coming back). Muttdogg
  • Score: 34

5:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
The thing is, even if Cortese was still there spending money that wasn't his, Players still would have wanted to go the top clubs in the world. They are playing champions league football. They are paying up to 200 thousand a week. We can't compete with that unless we have an owner willing to lose their own money. Our ground isn't big enough. Cortese was not the owner! It's was not his money! He was promising things only forgetting to ask the owner if she was happy to lose 100 millions pounds of her own money! The point is Lambert still has no business in unsettling our club. Look at Blackpool. Look at Leeds. Look at Cardiff. Our owners who have reinvested 50 million pounds, Appointed a good manager. Are they that bad?????? Stick to your own club Lambert! It's player power that gave us such a difficult summer!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]The thing is, even if Cortese was still there spending money that wasn't his, Players still would have wanted to go the top clubs in the world. They are playing champions league football. They are paying up to 200 thousand a week. We can't compete with that unless we have an owner willing to lose their own money. Our ground isn't big enough. Cortese was not the owner! It's was not his money! He was promising things only forgetting to ask the owner if she was happy to lose 100 millions pounds of her own money! The point is Lambert still has no business in unsettling our club. Look at Blackpool. Look at Leeds. Look at Cardiff. Our owners who have reinvested 50 million pounds, Appointed a good manager. Are they that bad?????? Stick to your own club Lambert! It's player power that gave us such a difficult summer! footballfan123
  • Score: 50

5:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

cotswoldsaint says...

RL is a Liverpool player whose comments are clearly intended to undermine our club by seeking to deflect reasonable criticism of his mates Lovren and Lallana back onto our board. The fact is Lovren admitted his head was in Anfield way back and no doubt Lambert and Lallana had their own heads turned while on England duty with Stevie G. Everyone seems to have fallen for this "boyhood dream" nonsense given for Lambert's departure but in reality he was leading the exodus. If he'd stuck around one long enough to see who was appointed to replace Pochetinno then he could have assessed the club's ambition properly. Sadly he didn't, so I for one won't be cheering him, especially after these comments.
RL is a Liverpool player whose comments are clearly intended to undermine our club by seeking to deflect reasonable criticism of his mates Lovren and Lallana back onto our board. The fact is Lovren admitted his head was in Anfield way back and no doubt Lambert and Lallana had their own heads turned while on England duty with Stevie G. Everyone seems to have fallen for this "boyhood dream" nonsense given for Lambert's departure but in reality he was leading the exodus. If he'd stuck around one long enough to see who was appointed to replace Pochetinno then he could have assessed the club's ambition properly. Sadly he didn't, so I for one won't be cheering him, especially after these comments. cotswoldsaint
  • Score: 36

5:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Muttdogg wrote:
Lallana and Lovren deserve the abuse from the fans, and am looking forward to piling it on whent they come to St Marys. No more chearing for Lambert though please, we've done that now move on (he's never coming back).
Exactly. What's the point of cheering on the opposition!! Think about it. Just clap!!!!! Not sing his name! He is not that much of a hero. Matt let Tissier is a hero! Ted Bates is a hero! Not players who would rather be else where!
[quote][p][bold]Muttdogg[/bold] wrote: Lallana and Lovren deserve the abuse from the fans, and am looking forward to piling it on whent they come to St Marys. No more chearing for Lambert though please, we've done that now move on (he's never coming back).[/p][/quote]Exactly. What's the point of cheering on the opposition!! Think about it. Just clap!!!!! Not sing his name! He is not that much of a hero. Matt let Tissier is a hero! Ted Bates is a hero! Not players who would rather be else where! footballfan123
  • Score: 39

5:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

jls217 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then.
We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.
To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would.

The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game[/p][/quote]We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then. We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.[/p][/quote]To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would. The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say. costa gaz
  • Score: -15

5:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

owen thesaints... says...

saintbobby wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here.

May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it!

It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering.

But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January.

We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe.

Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?
It's Pella
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.[/p][/quote]KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here. May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it! It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering. But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January. We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe. Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?[/p][/quote]It's Pella owen thesaints...
  • Score: 15

5:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Poole Tom says...

I think that we have to accept that Rickie has a far better idea why the players that have left the club over the course of the summer did so, even if that means that we have to accept that the board no longer have the same level of ambition that Cortese had.
I think that we have to accept that Rickie has a far better idea why the players that have left the club over the course of the summer did so, even if that means that we have to accept that the board no longer have the same level of ambition that Cortese had. Poole Tom
  • Score: -18

5:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

saintbobby wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here.

May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it!

It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering.

But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January.

We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe.

Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?
Not sure if its pelle or peely but i think it should have been him that was taken off
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.[/p][/quote]KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here. May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it! It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering. But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January. We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe. Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?[/p][/quote]Not sure if its pelle or peely but i think it should have been him that was taken off mickey01
  • Score: -6

5:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
The thing is, even if Cortese was still there spending money that wasn't his, Players still would have wanted to go the top clubs in the world. They are playing champions league football. They are paying up to 200 thousand a week. We can't compete with that unless we have an owner willing to lose their own money. Our ground isn't big enough. Cortese was not the owner! It's was not his money! He was promising things only forgetting to ask the owner if she was happy to lose 100 millions pounds of her own money! The point is Lambert still has no business in unsettling our club. Look at Blackpool. Look at Leeds. Look at Cardiff. Our owners who have reinvested 50 million pounds, Appointed a good manager. Are they that bad?????? Stick to your own club Lambert! It's player power that gave us such a difficult summer!
When Ralph took over as chairman the first thing he said is that he has inherited a serious financial situation and i though exactly the same as you, Cortese was doing it with other peoples money.
Then the actual debt was announced as £21m.... owed to clubs for transfers over the next 3 years!!!

This proves that Cortese got us where we got to on a shoestring.

£21m debt for a BPL club is a drop in the ocean especially when you think we will be collecting upwards of £150m this season plus the transfer money not reinvested.
Were only a couple of players away from going to the next level, which would have made the club fortunes... we would never had gone like Pompey or Leeds, Cortese was to shrewd for that and him leaving the club with a debt of only £21m after all we achieved, is proof of that.
I have no doubt that we'll do ok this season and the club will show a healthy profit, quite possibly the best in football, but that wont win things.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]The thing is, even if Cortese was still there spending money that wasn't his, Players still would have wanted to go the top clubs in the world. They are playing champions league football. They are paying up to 200 thousand a week. We can't compete with that unless we have an owner willing to lose their own money. Our ground isn't big enough. Cortese was not the owner! It's was not his money! He was promising things only forgetting to ask the owner if she was happy to lose 100 millions pounds of her own money! The point is Lambert still has no business in unsettling our club. Look at Blackpool. Look at Leeds. Look at Cardiff. Our owners who have reinvested 50 million pounds, Appointed a good manager. Are they that bad?????? Stick to your own club Lambert! It's player power that gave us such a difficult summer![/p][/quote]When Ralph took over as chairman the first thing he said is that he has inherited a serious financial situation and i though exactly the same as you, Cortese was doing it with other peoples money. Then the actual debt was announced as £21m.... owed to clubs for transfers over the next 3 years!!! This proves that Cortese got us where we got to on a shoestring. £21m debt for a BPL club is a drop in the ocean especially when you think we will be collecting upwards of £150m this season plus the transfer money not reinvested. Were only a couple of players away from going to the next level, which would have made the club fortunes... we would never had gone like Pompey or Leeds, Cortese was to shrewd for that and him leaving the club with a debt of only £21m after all we achieved, is proof of that. I have no doubt that we'll do ok this season and the club will show a healthy profit, quite possibly the best in football, but that wont win things. costa gaz
  • Score: -17

5:31pm Mon 18 Aug 14

pemcil says...

I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us?
I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us? pemcil
  • Score: 12

5:32pm Mon 18 Aug 14

dockboy says...

Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool dockboy
  • Score: 28

5:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Berkshire Saint says...

All our players, past and present, are being asked about our new board and Rickie can say what he likes. He loves our club and has said so numerous times. Everyone has been scratching their heads this summer wondering what was driving the decision to sanction such a large player sale. The reality is until Katherina tells us we'll never know, in fact I'd love to hear what the goals of the club are now. Rickie can say what he wants as far as I'm concerned.
All our players, past and present, are being asked about our new board and Rickie can say what he likes. He loves our club and has said so numerous times. Everyone has been scratching their heads this summer wondering what was driving the decision to sanction such a large player sale. The reality is until Katherina tells us we'll never know, in fact I'd love to hear what the goals of the club are now. Rickie can say what he wants as far as I'm concerned. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: -9

5:37pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Good Looking Man About Town. says...

He looked like he started saying something he could not really finish. Lots of body language of touching the face. Sticking up for his mates and I still respect the man.
He looked like he started saying something he could not really finish. Lots of body language of touching the face. Sticking up for his mates and I still respect the man. Good Looking Man About Town.
  • Score: -8

5:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations.
Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.
Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations. Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet. costa gaz
  • Score: -22

5:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Berkshire Saint says...

pemcil wrote:
I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us?
We had Lallana's best years and whilst I was disappointed to see him go I'm getting over it. Lovren is a different story as is MoPo as they abused the faith we put in them by moving at the earliest opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]pemcil[/bold] wrote: I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us?[/p][/quote]We had Lallana's best years and whilst I was disappointed to see him go I'm getting over it. Lovren is a different story as is MoPo as they abused the faith we put in them by moving at the earliest opportunity. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 15

5:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
[quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed. footballfan123
  • Score: 27

5:44pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

AMBITION = MONEY !

Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ?

I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success !

Good luck RonKom and the new Saints !
AMBITION = MONEY ! Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ? I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success ! Good luck RonKom and the new Saints ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 16

5:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

costa gaz wrote:
Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations.
Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.
Gaz - As I see it ;

AMBITION = MONEY !

Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ?

I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success !

AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............

I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ????

I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations. Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.[/p][/quote]Gaz - As I see it ; AMBITION = MONEY ! Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ? I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success ! AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............ I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ???? I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ??? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 12

5:53pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.[/p][/quote]Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !! Simmo13
  • Score: 17

5:59pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -10

6:10pm Mon 18 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

owen thesaints... wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here.

May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it!

It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering.

But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January.

We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe.

Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?
It's Pella
owen thesaints, thank you for Pella confirmation. Daft thing is I belatedly watched and heard MoD say that 5 minutes after posting. Good to pronounce and spell (!) names correctly.

Still think Phil Neville is a berk! Did you all hear him say "I am very worried about Southampton".

Well, not now Phil, not now, absolutely not now!
[quote][p][bold]owen thesaints...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.[/p][/quote]KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here. May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it! It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering. But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January. We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe. Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?[/p][/quote]It's Pella[/p][/quote]owen thesaints, thank you for Pella confirmation. Daft thing is I belatedly watched and heard MoD say that 5 minutes after posting. Good to pronounce and spell (!) names correctly. Still think Phil Neville is a berk! Did you all hear him say "I am very worried about Southampton". Well, not now Phil, not now, absolutely not now! saintbobby
  • Score: 9

6:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations.
Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.
Gaz - As I see it ;

AMBITION = MONEY !

Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ?

I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success !

AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............

I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ????

I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???
Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream...
KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe.
The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club.
Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet.

Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring.
PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations. Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.[/p][/quote]Gaz - As I see it ; AMBITION = MONEY ! Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ? I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success ! AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............ I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ???? I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???[/p][/quote]Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream... KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe. The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club. Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet. Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring. PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself. costa gaz
  • Score: -16

6:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.[/p][/quote]Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !! Simmo13
  • Score: 11

6:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.[/p][/quote]Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !! Simmo13
  • Score: 3

6:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.[/p][/quote]Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !! Simmo13
  • Score: 5

6:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
dockboy wrote:
Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday.
Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity.
Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool
At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.
Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !!
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dockboy[/bold] wrote: Why was Lambert cheered on Sunday. Saints made him the player he is today, withoug SFC he would still be fighting for a game in the lower leagues, and when liverpool clicked their fingers he went running, running back to a team that never wanted him in the first place, surely he knew that he was only brought back to liverpool to entice the others to follow, has he really got so little integrity. Thankyou for the past, but you are no longer part of our future so please keep your comments to liverpool[/p][/quote]At least we have some intelligence among our fan base! Lambert a hero!! Yeah right! Southampton made him the player he is. He still decided to leave us so not much of a hero in my eyes. Will he still be a Saints legend if he came to St mary's and put 3 past us to put us in the bottom 3??? He is now a rival, opposition. A sensible clap at the end of the end of the game would have been fine. He was cheered when he touched the ball, his name was shouted out "there's only one Rickie Lambert", He was asked to give a wave! This is a player of the opposition!!! I was embarrassed.[/p][/quote]Surprised at his comments just trying to justify his move to a club that didn't want him all those y ears ago its sad that he waited until after the result to have a pop such a shame thought he would have kept quiet really but there you go loyalty only lasts so long !! Simmo13
  • Score: 3

6:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

invictus says...

costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
Spot on! The manager and players were content prior to KL coming in. Cortese stated publicly the club's ambition: to secure CL football and win the Premiership.

Blaming the players and missing the real issue smacks of parochialism, but at least the stripes are back, eh!!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]Spot on! The manager and players were content prior to KL coming in. Cortese stated publicly the club's ambition: to secure CL football and win the Premiership. Blaming the players and missing the real issue smacks of parochialism, but at least the stripes are back, eh!!! invictus
  • Score: -8

6:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

costa gaz wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations.
Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.
Gaz - As I see it ;

AMBITION = MONEY !

Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ?

I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success !

AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............

I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ????

I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???
Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream...
KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe.
The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club.
Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet.

Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring.
PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself.
Good post Gaz, I can't disagree with any of that.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations. Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.[/p][/quote]Gaz - As I see it ; AMBITION = MONEY ! Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ? I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success ! AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............ I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ???? I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???[/p][/quote]Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream... KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe. The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club. Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet. Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring. PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself.[/p][/quote]Good post Gaz, I can't disagree with any of that. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -7

6:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me! footballfan123
  • Score: 24

6:20pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

That would be the same board that showed a great deal of understanding toward you was it Rickie? And in so doing opened the floodgates to the other greedy bar stewards both of whom ended up at Skiverpool. Of course you are going to try to protect them now because they signed for the same cr@p outfit as you. Probably acting on Brenda's instructions. The club normally would wish departing players well for the future on the official site but it was VERY noticeable that this didn't happen because of their disgraceful and totally unprofessional behaviour. The reception Judas got will seem like a whisper when you come down to St Marys. Anyway you are probably already realising the mistake you made as we played you lot off the park for most of the game with a side that has hardly got to know each other. There is a very good chance you will finish below us this season, especially if one of your scorers gets injured. One things for sure Lielanna isn't good enough to step up. Really looking forward to St Marys and laughing at Brenda if she is still there.
That would be the same board that showed a great deal of understanding toward you was it Rickie? And in so doing opened the floodgates to the other greedy bar stewards both of whom ended up at Skiverpool. Of course you are going to try to protect them now because they signed for the same cr@p outfit as you. Probably acting on Brenda's instructions. The club normally would wish departing players well for the future on the official site but it was VERY noticeable that this didn't happen because of their disgraceful and totally unprofessional behaviour. The reception Judas got will seem like a whisper when you come down to St Marys. Anyway you are probably already realising the mistake you made as we played you lot off the park for most of the game with a side that has hardly got to know each other. There is a very good chance you will finish below us this season, especially if one of your scorers gets injured. One things for sure Lielanna isn't good enough to step up. Really looking forward to St Marys and laughing at Brenda if she is still there. Clever Dick
  • Score: 17

6:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay.
Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me![/p][/quote]Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay. Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -8

6:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay.
Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.
i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me![/p][/quote]Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay. Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.[/p][/quote]i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!! footballfan123
  • Score: 12

6:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
Only 20 thumbs down in 2 hours.. to be fair I expected more.

What I have found out from this thread is that our ex players are gonna be boooooed like no player has been boooooed before...

I can see someone making up songs to praise the board soon.. CRAZY
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]Only 20 thumbs down in 2 hours.. to be fair I expected more. What I have found out from this thread is that our ex players are gonna be boooooed like no player has been boooooed before... I can see someone making up songs to praise the board soon.. CRAZY costa gaz
  • Score: -15

6:41pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 20

6:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay.
Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.
i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me![/p][/quote]Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay. Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.[/p][/quote]i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!! footballfan123
  • Score: 3

6:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP. costa gaz
  • Score: -13

6:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay.
Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.
i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!!
Well I broke my own rule today,and started moaning about it,when I'd earlier said "move on", but that was before the Lambert revelation.
Who knows what might've happened,but despite that fact that the club appear to have fixed something that wasn't broken,the engine still seems to be ticking over very nicely.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me![/p][/quote]Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay. Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.[/p][/quote]i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!![/p][/quote]Well I broke my own rule today,and started moaning about it,when I'd earlier said "move on", but that was before the Lambert revelation. Who knows what might've happened,but despite that fact that the club appear to have fixed something that wasn't broken,the engine still seems to be ticking over very nicely. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 11

6:57pm Mon 18 Aug 14

footballfan123 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it.
Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho!
What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me!
Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay.
Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.
i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!!
Well I broke my own rule today,and started moaning about it,when I'd earlier said "move on", but that was before the Lambert revelation.
Who knows what might've happened,but despite that fact that the club appear to have fixed something that wasn't broken,the engine still seems to be ticking over very nicely.
Yeah that's true. I think they should be fine this season. The whole club, the players need positivity and confidence now. The board made their decisions. They took the route of being financially secure but we still have players in the team who cost millions and who should do a decent job. We will never know the truth for sure because every individual is trying to save their or make excuses. But lets just give the club and team a chance. Come on you reds!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The truth will always out,and if it came from Rickie,I believe it. Still,no harm done in the end,apart from probably taking longer to get Champions League,than it would've done,but hey ho![/p][/quote]What is there to believe???? That we no longer have the ambition to win the Premier League!! Well we know that already!!!! This is the same ambition as about 90 other clubs! Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Arsenal have the ambitions because they have billions of fans, massive grounds and lots of money. Thanks for telling us Rickie that we don't quite have the same as ambitions as them. Considering all those clubs are in debt by 100's of millions some might say we are sensible!!! Would we have wanted £60 tickets? The ground taken over by rich people like Arsenal? Would we want Idiots like Suarez in the team? We all want to see the best players and I was as disappointed as the next person when they left. But these players left because they want 100 grand a week and they are not happy unless they are playing in the champs league! Well if we finish10th and win the cup and have down to earth players who just love their football than that is good enough for me![/p][/quote]Well,Lambert has just said that they didn't leave for the money,and as Warrens and C Gaz have pointed out,we were on the verge of achieving the dream with very little outlay. Still, I'm not disappointed the way its turned out in the end,in fact I'm very excited,but the point a few of us have been trying to make over the last few weeks,is that the whole thing,was so unnecessary.[/p][/quote]i understand the points you make, in theory we could have kept all our players, even if we did were we really going to get in the top 4? Above Chelsea? Above Man city? Above Arsenal? Above Man united? Teams with huge fan bases, big grounds that they fill every week? A million fans in China? What if we gave into their demands paid them loads of money, spent an extra 50 million on the team and then finished 6th? Still no champions league football? Would these players still have stayed with offers from the biggest clubs in the world at their door? Would missing out on champions league football, having spent all that money have ruined the clubs finances? We now have a financially secure club, a good manager, looking like a decent team still. Being the size of the top 4 is a bit of an unrealistic dream really. The players were demanding to go. Who wouldn't want to triple their wages and play in front of 50 000 every week? Whatever Lambert says I wonder if he would have left to play for Tranmere if that was his club?? There is not a lot the club can do about it!![/p][/quote]Well I broke my own rule today,and started moaning about it,when I'd earlier said "move on", but that was before the Lambert revelation. Who knows what might've happened,but despite that fact that the club appear to have fixed something that wasn't broken,the engine still seems to be ticking over very nicely.[/p][/quote]Yeah that's true. I think they should be fine this season. The whole club, the players need positivity and confidence now. The board made their decisions. They took the route of being financially secure but we still have players in the team who cost millions and who should do a decent job. We will never know the truth for sure because every individual is trying to save their or make excuses. But lets just give the club and team a chance. Come on you reds! footballfan123
  • Score: 3

7:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Saint Viking says...

I can see Liverpool falling flat on their faces this season, struggling to make the top four and an early Champions League exit. I'm glad Lambert has made these remarks, the sentiment is over, he along with the rest of the players who have left are history.

Saints made a statement yesterday - there's still quality in the side and we have a decent run of games to start picking up points before a daunting Christmas/ New Year period. Hopefully that performance and Koeman's obvious tactical nous will shut the likes of Phil Neville up now. Tipping us for relegation was/is laughable.
I can see Liverpool falling flat on their faces this season, struggling to make the top four and an early Champions League exit. I'm glad Lambert has made these remarks, the sentiment is over, he along with the rest of the players who have left are history. Saints made a statement yesterday - there's still quality in the side and we have a decent run of games to start picking up points before a daunting Christmas/ New Year period. Hopefully that performance and Koeman's obvious tactical nous will shut the likes of Phil Neville up now. Tipping us for relegation was/is laughable. Saint Viking
  • Score: 9

7:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations.
Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.
Gaz - As I see it ;

AMBITION = MONEY !

Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ?

I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success !

AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............

I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ????

I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???
Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream...
KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe.
The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club.
Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet.

Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring.
PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself.
Good post Gaz, I can't disagree with any of that.
Your spot on Gaz and like 4th Street agree totally with what NC did , but he did it with someone eles's money and without Saint Marcus and then KL we wouldn't have an EPL club ............

So I go back to the same point NO AMBITION = NO HANDOUT'S ....... Surely's it's better to have a club than 2 years in the Top 7 or 8 th places and then collapse when the best players leave with one year on their contract and massive debt ??

As for substantial profit's we will see but I will be surprised if that works out , no debt on the other hand will happen I'm sure ..........

At some point the Sky money is going to start to decline at that point the well run clubs will come to the fore but maybe by then we will have rich Sheik owning us who will make us play in blue circled shirts and only allow his family members into watch the games ??

As I said no-one has answered the one key question , what more could have the board done without another major hand-out from the Liebherr family ??
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Poster who believe RL get the thumbs down, but posters burying their heads in the sand and talking about a totally different topic, Sundays performance,are getting voted up. confused, it's as if you don't want to talk about Rickie's revelations. Keep on topic, forget the hate and try to discuss the matter in hand... stop brushing it under the carpet.[/p][/quote]Gaz - As I see it ; AMBITION = MONEY ! Unless KL was willing to bank roll the club to up to an extra £50 million per year she and the board do not have ambition ? I think Sir Rickie is justifying himself when he knows he left to go back to his boyhood club and a large pay packet and the rest including MoPo left for the pay packet and instant bought success ! AL had left before the Cardiff game as any who was outside before the game waiting for the players will testify, MoPo's well publicized ambition according to NC is to get to one of the Mega Club's as quickly as possible ............ I know we have had this argument all Summer but as I have said before unless you have a Tony Fernandez type owner who is willing to throw unlimited money at the club it will be tough to compete at the top level ???? I still don't know and no-one on hear has yet told me what would have kept MoPo and these players who have in some cases been tapped up since 2012 ?? Except KL dipping into her pocket with another handout ???[/p][/quote]Just the last point, Poch would still be here and so would the players if KL would have seen Cortese's dream... KL will not invest in the club, she will let in live within it's means or so we were led to believe. The company who owns Southampton Football Club will be sat on a substantial profit at year end results. This will be taken from the club. Thats business I'm afraid, that's why she is here and won't sell just yet. Cortese turned the club from a sad old league 2 hasbeen into a £200m, growing club on the brink of joining the big boys and I repeat, on a shoestring. PS. I could not stand Cortese, but his track record speaks for itself.[/p][/quote]Good post Gaz, I can't disagree with any of that.[/p][/quote]Your spot on Gaz and like 4th Street agree totally with what NC did , but he did it with someone eles's money and without Saint Marcus and then KL we wouldn't have an EPL club ............ So I go back to the same point NO AMBITION = NO HANDOUT'S ....... Surely's it's better to have a club than 2 years in the Top 7 or 8 th places and then collapse when the best players leave with one year on their contract and massive debt ?? As for substantial profit's we will see but I will be surprised if that works out , no debt on the other hand will happen I'm sure .......... At some point the Sky money is going to start to decline at that point the well run clubs will come to the fore but maybe by then we will have rich Sheik owning us who will make us play in blue circled shirts and only allow his family members into watch the games ?? As I said no-one has answered the one key question , what more could have the board done without another major hand-out from the Liebherr family ?? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 10

7:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 13

7:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED. Shareholder
  • Score: 24

7:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

So Rickie says Poch leaving told that the board lacked ambition, but what if Poch was just a mercenary looking for a short cut to the top with no loyalty to anyone but himself...the same as certain players whose names I no longer care to mention.
So Rickie says Poch leaving told that the board lacked ambition, but what if Poch was just a mercenary looking for a short cut to the top with no loyalty to anyone but himself...the same as certain players whose names I no longer care to mention. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 10

7:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Southampton boy wrote:
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
Yes I still believe that our new board have been very naive and shown their inexperienced since they were formed in January.

We still do not know why MoPo decided to leave but it probably was because of lack of direction from the new board especially the lack of a dominant Chairman. Don't think we will ever know all the truth, but it appears that Ricky was correct in that it appears he was the catalyst for all the players wanting to leave. MoPo was refusing to sign the new contract offered so the Board should have had a replacement lined up.

Quite possibly we would have replaced Ricky anyway and with such a large offer for Luke, every player has a price, even the big clubs have found that.

But that should have been it. The board should have spoken to Adam immediately, but after allowing him to leave Dejan and the rest all wanted out. At that time we were manager-less and with little/no response from the board, the media had a field day, plus inconvenience of the World Cup, all flamed the situation.

The board should have then drawn the line with Lovren or certainly with Chambers with was the one that still really does not make any sense and was the last straw for many supporters.

Anyway they now appear to have finally drawn the line so it remains to be seen if they can still keep Morgan & J-Rod, obviously RonKo wants to keep them. Sadly it looks as though he doesn't see a role for Jack Cork but selling him for £3m and buying a 29yr old MF from Lazio for £8m is questionable, but buying 23yr old Jordy Classie for £12m is a different matter.

However it is quite usual for a new Manager to want to build his own team so changing a few players is normal.

Hopefully the board have been learning quickly and the good news is that the performance against Liverpool was encouraging. However it did prove that we still need a proven Goalscorer and a better CB than we have to command the central defence and stop giving away soft goals like Liverpool scored.

In addition to these two players we probably then need a fast Winger with a good cross to get the best out of Pelle and a good young RB to give Cline competition and cover if there is no youngster coming through.

There should be enough money available for these 3 -4 players even if one was another season long loan player.

There is still two weeks left for the board to get these players in, then the board will have redeemed themselves and we would then be looking to improve this season and surprise everyone.

Come on Les keep going you are slowly getting there, just a few more to arm RonKo's options and improve his first 11 on the pitch.

COYR&WS.
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game[/p][/quote]Yes I still believe that our new board have been very naive and shown their inexperienced since they were formed in January. We still do not know why MoPo decided to leave but it probably was because of lack of direction from the new board especially the lack of a dominant Chairman. Don't think we will ever know all the truth, but it appears that Ricky was correct in that it appears he was the catalyst for all the players wanting to leave. MoPo was refusing to sign the new contract offered so the Board should have had a replacement lined up. Quite possibly we would have replaced Ricky anyway and with such a large offer for Luke, every player has a price, even the big clubs have found that. But that should have been it. The board should have spoken to Adam immediately, but after allowing him to leave Dejan and the rest all wanted out. At that time we were manager-less and with little/no response from the board, the media had a field day, plus inconvenience of the World Cup, all flamed the situation. The board should have then drawn the line with Lovren or certainly with Chambers with was the one that still really does not make any sense and was the last straw for many supporters. Anyway they now appear to have finally drawn the line so it remains to be seen if they can still keep Morgan & J-Rod, obviously RonKo wants to keep them. Sadly it looks as though he doesn't see a role for Jack Cork but selling him for £3m and buying a 29yr old MF from Lazio for £8m is questionable, but buying 23yr old Jordy Classie for £12m is a different matter. However it is quite usual for a new Manager to want to build his own team so changing a few players is normal. Hopefully the board have been learning quickly and the good news is that the performance against Liverpool was encouraging. However it did prove that we still need a proven Goalscorer and a better CB than we have to command the central defence and stop giving away soft goals like Liverpool scored. In addition to these two players we probably then need a fast Winger with a good cross to get the best out of Pelle and a good young RB to give Cline competition and cover if there is no youngster coming through. There should be enough money available for these 3 -4 players even if one was another season long loan player. There is still two weeks left for the board to get these players in, then the board will have redeemed themselves and we would then be looking to improve this season and surprise everyone. Come on Les keep going you are slowly getting there, just a few more to arm RonKo's options and improve his first 11 on the pitch. COYR&WS. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

8:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Blue means Success says...

costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
As an objective observer, you are clearly speaking without the emotion getting in the way, and you are definitely in the minority.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]As an objective observer, you are clearly speaking without the emotion getting in the way, and you are definitely in the minority. Blue means Success
  • Score: -3

8:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -7

8:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

pemcil says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
pemcil wrote:
I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us?
We had Lallana's best years and whilst I was disappointed to see him go I'm getting over it. Lovren is a different story as is MoPo as they abused the faith we put in them by moving at the earliest opportunity.
I agree with you, but don't think that a bit of common sense will stop the coming vitriol
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pemcil[/bold] wrote: I wonder what Lambert will think of Saints fans when he hears the abuse that his great mate Lallana will inevitably receive if he ever plays against us?[/p][/quote]We had Lallana's best years and whilst I was disappointed to see him go I'm getting over it. Lovren is a different story as is MoPo as they abused the faith we put in them by moving at the earliest opportunity.[/p][/quote]I agree with you, but don't think that a bit of common sense will stop the coming vitriol pemcil
  • Score: 1

8:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though? thinklikealocal
  • Score: 6

8:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Malcombe says...

There's some fantastic comments on here of the theory of the demise but who is telling the truth the Club or Rickie and do we really care now that it is history, did Rickie chose to leave or did he, did he ask the Board or was the Board contacted by Liverpool who then asked Rickie, is Rickie gullible and believes The Deceitful Liar that the Club ambitions had ceased and it was the end of a dream? IMO if Supporters believe the Club did not want to progress and they had reached the summit of ambitions then we must all believe in Fairies and Supporters are too intelligent to have the wool pulled over there eyes.
Rickie is popular and will probably live in Hampshire when he retires but he has had all the praise and compliments he deserves and now he's one Player of the opposition so clapping by Saints Supporters if they feel they should because it's Rickie should be saved for the end of a game to show
respect not during a game especially if god forbid he scored against Saints.
Thousands of us have possibly worked out what happened this year without being told the truth from one of the Board members and much as I am going against my principles I am nosy and really want to know however we all move on and from the performance yesterday the future is bright with at last the Saints in red and white stripes COYR
There's some fantastic comments on here of the theory of the demise but who is telling the truth the Club or Rickie and do we really care now that it is history, did Rickie chose to leave or did he, did he ask the Board or was the Board contacted by Liverpool who then asked Rickie, is Rickie gullible and believes The Deceitful Liar that the Club ambitions had ceased and it was the end of a dream? IMO if Supporters believe the Club did not want to progress and they had reached the summit of ambitions then we must all believe in Fairies and Supporters are too intelligent to have the wool pulled over there eyes. Rickie is popular and will probably live in Hampshire when he retires but he has had all the praise and compliments he deserves and now he's one Player of the opposition so clapping by Saints Supporters if they feel they should because it's Rickie should be saved for the end of a game to show respect not during a game especially if god forbid he scored against Saints. Thousands of us have possibly worked out what happened this year without being told the truth from one of the Board members and much as I am going against my principles I am nosy and really want to know however we all move on and from the performance yesterday the future is bright with at last the Saints in red and white stripes COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 4

8:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Roman Centurion says...

Cortese took a massive gamble with poch and it paid off, he had a vision that was more ambitious than anything saints had ever seen. Poch was 100 percent behind the vision and he inherited a very good crop of young players who had won back to back promotions. The problem was the owners were getting nervous, so far so good but when would cortese's luck change. Osvaldo signing was perhaps the first chink in the armour. Clearly a bad purchase. As soon as cortese went poch made his mind up , they had a meeting and cortese said see the season through the team will finish strong and you can get your dream move. As stated players greed, latching onto the lack of board ambition, mixing in brazil with the overrated England players meant there was only one outcome. In a sense the board and probably with Koeman 'a blessing decided to off load the rats from the ship. Time will tell if one or two others will follow. It's time for a new chapter we can all say we are proud to follow a great club like sfc and we will be here no matter what. STID
Cortese took a massive gamble with poch and it paid off, he had a vision that was more ambitious than anything saints had ever seen. Poch was 100 percent behind the vision and he inherited a very good crop of young players who had won back to back promotions. The problem was the owners were getting nervous, so far so good but when would cortese's luck change. Osvaldo signing was perhaps the first chink in the armour. Clearly a bad purchase. As soon as cortese went poch made his mind up , they had a meeting and cortese said see the season through the team will finish strong and you can get your dream move. As stated players greed, latching onto the lack of board ambition, mixing in brazil with the overrated England players meant there was only one outcome. In a sense the board and probably with Koeman 'a blessing decided to off load the rats from the ship. Time will tell if one or two others will follow. It's time for a new chapter we can all say we are proud to follow a great club like sfc and we will be here no matter what. STID Roman Centurion
  • Score: 6

8:44pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Buddy SFC says...

Shareholder wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED.
Yes , oh yes and YES !!

Spot on and thanks..............
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[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED.[/p][/quote]Yes , oh yes and YES !! Spot on and thanks.............. .................... .......... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 4

8:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky.
What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included.
The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert.
There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger.
I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.
Jls you pinched my words, couldn't of said it better myself, spot on.

We all love SRL but maybe with the fax wishing him happy birthday the apparent knowledge of Lieanna being tapped up by text, perhaps his comments are just another plot to unsettle saints players and will we see. Brenda come in for another of our players, perhaps SRL ain't as innocent in all this as we all like to think.

Based on our performance Sunday they may want to swap teams.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.[/p][/quote]Jls you pinched my words, couldn't of said it better myself, spot on. We all love SRL but maybe with the fax wishing him happy birthday the apparent knowledge of Lieanna being tapped up by text, perhaps his comments are just another plot to unsettle saints players and will we see. Brenda come in for another of our players, perhaps SRL ain't as innocent in all this as we all like to think. Based on our performance Sunday they may want to swap teams. fascia123
  • Score: 4

8:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

There is a big difference between "sport" and "entertainment". That is not to say, of course, that sport cannot be entertaining. Sport is all about doing one's ultimate best to win. Entertainment is about engaging people in something that they wish to watch, and are often prepared to pay for what they regard to be a privilege. If the Board decided that they could cash in on selling players and compromise the team's ability to win they are not sportsmen. They are ambitious entertainers. They also do not understand the appeal and branding of English football and should be sacked by the owner before her club is worthless.
There is a big difference between "sport" and "entertainment". That is not to say, of course, that sport cannot be entertaining. Sport is all about doing one's ultimate best to win. Entertainment is about engaging people in something that they wish to watch, and are often prepared to pay for what they regard to be a privilege. If the Board decided that they could cash in on selling players and compromise the team's ability to win they are not sportsmen. They are ambitious entertainers. They also do not understand the appeal and branding of English football and should be sacked by the owner before her club is worthless. Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: -1

8:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though?[/p][/quote]So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition? DisplacedFan
  • Score: -2

9:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?
We don't know the full details of the financial state NC left, It will be doubtful we have had more than 25% of the transfer money at this stage so how much will this leave us with?
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though?[/p][/quote]So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?[/p][/quote]We don't know the full details of the financial state NC left, It will be doubtful we have had more than 25% of the transfer money at this stage so how much will this leave us with? fascia123
  • Score: 1

9:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?
Would it not be prudent to wait and see? It ain't over till the fat lady sings, or so the saying goes.

We sold some of our players for such ridiculous money perhaps it's hard to spend! I agree about January, but when bringing in so many new players in such a short space of time, would it best to keep a bit back in reserve in case they don't all pan out? Perhaps we should leave it to RK who knows a hell of a lot more about it than we do to make that decision.

are you unhappy with what you have seen in the pitch so far cos at the end of the day that's all that counts.

I'm not sure why showing ambition in football involves going out and spending obscene amounts of money on players. Perhaps, just perhaps, invest that money elsewhere and in years to come it will mean you really are in a financial position to compete with the big boys, without relying on an indulgent rich owner to share your dreams.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though?[/p][/quote]So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?[/p][/quote]Would it not be prudent to wait and see? It ain't over till the fat lady sings, or so the saying goes. We sold some of our players for such ridiculous money perhaps it's hard to spend! I agree about January, but when bringing in so many new players in such a short space of time, would it best to keep a bit back in reserve in case they don't all pan out? Perhaps we should leave it to RK who knows a hell of a lot more about it than we do to make that decision. are you unhappy with what you have seen in the pitch so far cos at the end of the day that's all that counts. I'm not sure why showing ambition in football involves going out and spending obscene amounts of money on players. Perhaps, just perhaps, invest that money elsewhere and in years to come it will mean you really are in a financial position to compete with the big boys, without relying on an indulgent rich owner to share your dreams. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
After waht happened yesterday, how much of the money we have reinvested the quality of the manager we have brought in, the fact we have replaced the previous chairman who was a banker with a chairman who has been involved in the sports world for many years, does this show a lack of ambition.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]After waht happened yesterday, how much of the money we have reinvested the quality of the manager we have brought in, the fact we have replaced the previous chairman who was a banker with a chairman who has been involved in the sports world for many years, does this show a lack of ambition. fascia123
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
There is a big difference between "sport" and "entertainment". That is not to say, of course, that sport cannot be entertaining. Sport is all about doing one's ultimate best to win. Entertainment is about engaging people in something that they wish to watch, and are often prepared to pay for what they regard to be a privilege. If the Board decided that they could cash in on selling players and compromise the team's ability to win they are not sportsmen. They are ambitious entertainers. They also do not understand the appeal and branding of English football and should be sacked by the owner before her club is worthless.
Just remember, to be financially competitive (without which we are stuffed), our brand of 'English football' has to be made to increasingly appeal to a global market. Perhaps that's something none of us are too clued up on. Like it or not, that is the reality.
[quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: There is a big difference between "sport" and "entertainment". That is not to say, of course, that sport cannot be entertaining. Sport is all about doing one's ultimate best to win. Entertainment is about engaging people in something that they wish to watch, and are often prepared to pay for what they regard to be a privilege. If the Board decided that they could cash in on selling players and compromise the team's ability to win they are not sportsmen. They are ambitious entertainers. They also do not understand the appeal and branding of English football and should be sacked by the owner before her club is worthless.[/p][/quote]Just remember, to be financially competitive (without which we are stuffed), our brand of 'English football' has to be made to increasingly appeal to a global market. Perhaps that's something none of us are too clued up on. Like it or not, that is the reality. thinklikealocal
  • Score: -1

9:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Shareholder wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED.
Spot on

Lambert should show more respect and keep his views to himself and not tow the Liverpool lets unsettle a few more saints players line.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Why don't you give it a rest? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I went to Anfield yesterday (did you?) and saw a team that actually played better than the one I watched a year ago up there. We were desperately unlucky to lose. Was that a team constructed out of a lack of ambition? Was the manager a cheap, low profile option? The answer to both is an emphatic no. Lambert and the others clearly got their message from Pochettino who threw his toys out the pram and used a so called lack of ambition to leave to feather his own nest. Open your eyes and look at yesterday and what we've got as a result of the players sold. A solid team that almost beat one of the favourites for the league, a strong bench, more players on the way, a world class manager and coaching team, fabulous youngsters coming through, financially solvent and huge respect from the pundits. Only the most determined pessimist would say that equals lack of ambition. You're one of them, Lambert is wrong, Pochettino has been exposed as a liar, we have a great team, we are a great club, we march on. QED.[/p][/quote]Spot on Lambert should show more respect and keep his views to himself and not tow the Liverpool lets unsettle a few more saints players line. fascia123
  • Score: 4

9:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

buckie says...

while I appreciate what Ricky has done for us he was the catalyst with a lot of help to rise from league one to where we are narrowly losing and disappointed at losing to the supposedly second best team in the premier league we have moved on but wasn't Ricky first out of the door? it has been a difficult pre season with player departures if Lambert plays or more likely comes on as sub at home I will applaud him when he is warming up but when he steps on the pitch I will give him as much stick as possible he is the opposition and don't let that former captain of ours or that croat come on im looking forward to that coys
while I appreciate what Ricky has done for us he was the catalyst with a lot of help to rise from league one to where we are narrowly losing and disappointed at losing to the supposedly second best team in the premier league we have moved on but wasn't Ricky first out of the door? it has been a difficult pre season with player departures if Lambert plays or more likely comes on as sub at home I will applaud him when he is warming up but when he steps on the pitch I will give him as much stick as possible he is the opposition and don't let that former captain of ours or that croat come on im looking forward to that coys buckie
  • Score: 2

10:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Mosin85 says...

Some comments on here are to bad to explain, one person saying we in league 2? i dont think ive ever seen saints in league 2 and im 30 years old!!.

Stop going on about KL ambition for th club, cause if she plunges money into the club, the club then get a fine at the end of the year for 50 million pound ( FFP rules? ) that has to be paid by the club ( not her ) which in turn means a mass exodus as Saints cant afford a 50 million fine every year and nor can KL seeing as her fortune her dad spent his entire life earning it!.

Pochy left for wages and to a bigger club, Same can be said for the players that also went.

The money we received this year for out going transfers as stated by Ralph will be put back into the club on transfer fee's and wages. the more we get are wage bill up using the money we received this year on players sales is going to be increased next year by 4 % as per FFP rules state, if we brake these rules we get fined 50 million, these are not uefa rules these are the English FA rules. you know the rules that came out very fast before Saints got promoted to Prem? the rules are club was 100% against and Chelsea cause it means the top clubs stay at the top and the rest stay the same? which is why Chelsea are now selling to buy? there is a reason roman has not pumped tons more money into Chelsea. Remember Man city are getting away with it cause 99 % of there sponsors come from company's their owners own? and so can get away with spending huge money year after year on wages and transfers.

The rules of the prem now mean no club can buy its way to the TOP, it has to be earned, but the problem with these rules is now small clubs cant offer huge wages to players to keep them at the club from the big paychecks of the bigger clubs unless they sacrifice transfer money, in are case we choose to let them go as we have great potential coming through the youth set up that has the potential to be a lot better than the players that have left and we will look to bring in players to fill the gaps the youth system has not replace.

Sorry for the long post, but you have to look at it and be realistic. The Southampton way ( you know the saying we keep shouting about and are proud of ) is to NOT buy its way to the top but to EARN it!!! and i for one ( having attended the game on sunday ) believe the team we have is better than the team we had last year... Stop looking for instant success as it will NOT happen its going to take a few years to fairly challenge the top 6, we need to grow the club promote it world wide with players from all around the globe bringing fans from other nations making Saints the place to be for the future.

Saints FC are building a legacy not a team of over paid prima donnas looking for a big fat pay check.

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com/watch?v=Wc_PyZRX
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Some comments on here are to bad to explain, one person saying we in league 2? i dont think ive ever seen saints in league 2 and im 30 years old!!. Stop going on about KL ambition for th club, cause if she plunges money into the club, the club then get a fine at the end of the year for 50 million pound ( FFP rules? ) that has to be paid by the club ( not her ) which in turn means a mass exodus as Saints cant afford a 50 million fine every year and nor can KL seeing as her fortune her dad spent his entire life earning it!. Pochy left for wages and to a bigger club, Same can be said for the players that also went. The money we received this year for out going transfers as stated by Ralph will be put back into the club on transfer fee's and wages. the more we get are wage bill up using the money we received this year on players sales is going to be increased next year by 4 % as per FFP rules state, if we brake these rules we get fined 50 million, these are not uefa rules these are the English FA rules. you know the rules that came out very fast before Saints got promoted to Prem? the rules are club was 100% against and Chelsea cause it means the top clubs stay at the top and the rest stay the same? which is why Chelsea are now selling to buy? there is a reason roman has not pumped tons more money into Chelsea. Remember Man city are getting away with it cause 99 % of there sponsors come from company's their owners own? and so can get away with spending huge money year after year on wages and transfers. The rules of the prem now mean no club can buy its way to the TOP, it has to be earned, but the problem with these rules is now small clubs cant offer huge wages to players to keep them at the club from the big paychecks of the bigger clubs unless they sacrifice transfer money, in are case we choose to let them go as we have great potential coming through the youth set up that has the potential to be a lot better than the players that have left and we will look to bring in players to fill the gaps the youth system has not replace. Sorry for the long post, but you have to look at it and be realistic. The Southampton way ( you know the saying we keep shouting about and are proud of ) is to NOT buy its way to the top but to EARN it!!! and i for one ( having attended the game on sunday ) believe the team we have is better than the team we had last year... Stop looking for instant success as it will NOT happen its going to take a few years to fairly challenge the top 6, we need to grow the club promote it world wide with players from all around the globe bringing fans from other nations making Saints the place to be for the future. Saints FC are building a legacy not a team of over paid prima donnas looking for a big fat pay check. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=Wc_PyZRX Flg Mosin85
  • Score: 5

10:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintbobby wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.
KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here.

May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it!

It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering.

But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January.

We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe.

Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?
Or is it Phillip now he's trying to get adult jobs?

I believe is it pronounced Pell eh, not ay.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Some of the most reasoned and sensible comments I have read about saints on here for a while.[/p][/quote]KSO, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Well said, everyone above on here. May I suggest we should all be feeling both relieved and happy after that performance at Anfield. The finishing cost us 3 points not 1, but the display was very encouraging indeed. A bit lost for the first 15 minutes but settled down and gave us a tremendous performance. Loved it! It is rightly mentioned the summer is now behind us but if I was to make any comment at all, it is just that we really did not have a clue what was going on. Treacherous players and silence from the Board, left us all weeping and hollering. But now I believe we should say well done to the Board. We have got some serious (and unbelievable) fees and this IS being re-invested and most would say very well indeed. Some excellent replacements and still money in the bank for the rest of the window and, perhaps, in January. We will watch the next games and expect some good results after Saturday. Optimistic times are with us, I believe. Just one silly thing, is it PellAY or is is Pell, just on its own. Sky kept saying Pell. Finally, isn't Phil Neville a berk?[/p][/quote]Or is it Phillip now he's trying to get adult jobs? I believe is it pronounced Pell eh, not ay. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

bigfella777 says...

They're all greedy gits simple
They're all greedy gits simple bigfella777
  • Score: 4

10:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then.
We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.
To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would.

The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say.
Agreed Gaz and it supports my view that Cortese and latterly Pinchatinny would have leaked a very pro NC and anti all else info to suit their own needs. All very Goebbels like. So they would've had a pretty good grounding in hearing, KL is selling, no ambition etc etc etc and very little about how the real reason NC was getting his wings clipped (and his ego dented) was because he pushed his luck too far in thinking he could control KL and her money to suit his own ends. Lambert may have heard this NC propaganda blx and the gossip started to suit the players end. Lambert would've been no closer to the truth through that gossip than we were sat on the sidelines jumping to conclusions.
Regardless of exactly what happened we have moved on - these gentlemen (with gritted teeth) wanted away and got their way and their pay - good luck and good riddance to all of them. We are better off without them and their continuation of the locker room gossip put out by NC and fuelled by Pochettino and his select band of player mates.
What a former player, with possibly an axe to grind, has to say about anything concerning my team at any time is of no consequence. Best to keep quiet Ricky and retain the warmth we still feel for you or continue to show contempt for the hand that fed you and earn our disdain in return.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game[/p][/quote]We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then. We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.[/p][/quote]To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would. The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say.[/p][/quote]Agreed Gaz and it supports my view that Cortese and latterly Pinchatinny would have leaked a very pro NC and anti all else info to suit their own needs. All very Goebbels like. So they would've had a pretty good grounding in hearing, KL is selling, no ambition etc etc etc and very little about how the real reason NC was getting his wings clipped (and his ego dented) was because he pushed his luck too far in thinking he could control KL and her money to suit his own ends. Lambert may have heard this NC propaganda blx and the gossip started to suit the players end. Lambert would've been no closer to the truth through that gossip than we were sat on the sidelines jumping to conclusions. Regardless of exactly what happened we have moved on - these gentlemen (with gritted teeth) wanted away and got their way and their pay - good luck and good riddance to all of them. We are better off without them and their continuation of the locker room gossip put out by NC and fuelled by Pochettino and his select band of player mates. What a former player, with possibly an axe to grind, has to say about anything concerning my team at any time is of no consequence. Best to keep quiet Ricky and retain the warmth we still feel for you or continue to show contempt for the hand that fed you and earn our disdain in return. jls217
  • Score: 5

10:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lallanasatit says...

Pochettino left cause he is a liar dirty argentine!!! You think that was abuse wait till you all get back to st marys!!!! You earned the right to your move the other two acted like complete tw&ts to get their move completely disrespected this club fans and know doubt when your side completely fu@k up this season he will come out and say his head was always at chelsea, manchester. U get the pictur? Never came over as the brightest did he are rickie
Pochettino left cause he is a liar dirty argentine!!! You think that was abuse wait till you all get back to st marys!!!! You earned the right to your move the other two acted like complete tw&ts to get their move completely disrespected this club fans and know doubt when your side completely fu@k up this season he will come out and say his head was always at chelsea, manchester. U get the pictur? Never came over as the brightest did he are rickie lallanasatit
  • Score: 4

10:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Invidia says...

I have read most of the posts tonight and agreed with some and disagreed with others, there has been a load of pis5ing in the wind and made up theories and at the end of the day nobody but nobody not even R. Lambert know what the boards ambition or lack of it was/is and lets face it even if we knew what was going on in the board room, what would/could we do about it. My father was telling us the other day that Ted Bates and the board of that time threw some games because they could not afford to play in league one of those days, so nothing changes it is the fans right if they don't like what they see then don't look. One thing that has been proven, the only loyalty in football is by the fans.
I have read most of the posts tonight and agreed with some and disagreed with others, there has been a load of pis5ing in the wind and made up theories and at the end of the day nobody but nobody not even R. Lambert know what the boards ambition or lack of it was/is and lets face it even if we knew what was going on in the board room, what would/could we do about it. My father was telling us the other day that Ted Bates and the board of that time threw some games because they could not afford to play in league one of those days, so nothing changes it is the fans right if they don't like what they see then don't look. One thing that has been proven, the only loyalty in football is by the fans. Invidia
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lallanasatit says...

Rickie owes this club as much as we owe him. Be dignified shut the fu@k up
Rickie owes this club as much as we owe him. Be dignified shut the fu@k up lallanasatit
  • Score: 6

10:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

jls217 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan?

I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points

Looking forward to the first game
We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then.
We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.
To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would.

The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say.
Agreed Gaz and it supports my view that Cortese and latterly Pinchatinny would have leaked a very pro NC and anti all else info to suit their own needs. All very Goebbels like. So they would've had a pretty good grounding in hearing, KL is selling, no ambition etc etc etc and very little about how the real reason NC was getting his wings clipped (and his ego dented) was because he pushed his luck too far in thinking he could control KL and her money to suit his own ends. Lambert may have heard this NC propaganda blx and the gossip started to suit the players end. Lambert would've been no closer to the truth through that gossip than we were sat on the sidelines jumping to conclusions.
Regardless of exactly what happened we have moved on - these gentlemen (with gritted teeth) wanted away and got their way and their pay - good luck and good riddance to all of them. We are better off without them and their continuation of the locker room gossip put out by NC and fuelled by Pochettino and his select band of player mates.
What a former player, with possibly an axe to grind, has to say about anything concerning my team at any time is of no consequence. Best to keep quiet Ricky and retain the warmth we still feel for you or continue to show contempt for the hand that fed you and earn our disdain in return.
Very good but be careful you are nearly as much conspiracy theory as I am.

Only jesting, but never the less I do feel and especially after Sunday and the way the team played and the continual change of tactics our manager employed, the future is brighter without the lot of em.

Up the saints.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: A true gent RL and just may be there is something in what he has said, why did MP and the rest leave? What was the boards plan? I still think we will finish top 10 after seeing what we did at Liverampton in the 2nd half if we can take that forward to the home game then I can see us geti g all 3 points Looking forward to the first game[/p][/quote]We don't know what really happened and neither does Ricky Lambert. He got dressing room gossip and nothing more. It doesn't matter now because we are in a stronger position now than we were then. We've moved on and the future is brighter now than ever.[/p][/quote]To be fair JLS, I would think Rl and the rest of the players had more than a clue as to what was happening, they were all very close to Poch, who in turn was close to Cortese... basically work mates discussing things amongst themselves just like you or I would. The big difference was that Cortese was the chairman and CEO and knew everything about the club including KL's plans for the future, he obviously did not agree with them, so resigns and had a chat with his mate and the rest is history as they say.[/p][/quote]Agreed Gaz and it supports my view that Cortese and latterly Pinchatinny would have leaked a very pro NC and anti all else info to suit their own needs. All very Goebbels like. So they would've had a pretty good grounding in hearing, KL is selling, no ambition etc etc etc and very little about how the real reason NC was getting his wings clipped (and his ego dented) was because he pushed his luck too far in thinking he could control KL and her money to suit his own ends. Lambert may have heard this NC propaganda blx and the gossip started to suit the players end. Lambert would've been no closer to the truth through that gossip than we were sat on the sidelines jumping to conclusions. Regardless of exactly what happened we have moved on - these gentlemen (with gritted teeth) wanted away and got their way and their pay - good luck and good riddance to all of them. We are better off without them and their continuation of the locker room gossip put out by NC and fuelled by Pochettino and his select band of player mates. What a former player, with possibly an axe to grind, has to say about anything concerning my team at any time is of no consequence. Best to keep quiet Ricky and retain the warmth we still feel for you or continue to show contempt for the hand that fed you and earn our disdain in return.[/p][/quote]Very good but be careful you are nearly as much conspiracy theory as I am. Only jesting, but never the less I do feel and especially after Sunday and the way the team played and the continual change of tactics our manager employed, the future is brighter without the lot of em. Up the saints. fascia123
  • Score: 4

11:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lallanasatit says...

spratt wrote:
I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order.
I was embarrassed last season with all the talk of qualifying for the champions league, it was a ridiculous statement to constantly come out with, the players manager chairman actually believed that bull sh!t, when KL wasnt prepared, to let cortese play monopoly with her money, he sulked and probably threaten to resign knowing management and certain players signed to him not the club, she didnt budge he resigned, the board heve been extremely naive and were bullyed while in a weaken state, thats the onky thing I can knock the board for, im sure they would of learned a lot and will more than adequately make up some earlier mistakes. On this subject any one remember Bradford fc?? I to would be reluctant if somebody wanted to gamble a couple of billion of my own money which it would of cost to compete with billionaire owned clubs funny enough!!!!
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order.[/p][/quote]I was embarrassed last season with all the talk of qualifying for the champions league, it was a ridiculous statement to constantly come out with, the players manager chairman actually believed that bull sh!t, when KL wasnt prepared, to let cortese play monopoly with her money, he sulked and probably threaten to resign knowing management and certain players signed to him not the club, she didnt budge he resigned, the board heve been extremely naive and were bullyed while in a weaken state, thats the onky thing I can knock the board for, im sure they would of learned a lot and will more than adequately make up some earlier mistakes. On this subject any one remember Bradford fc?? I to would be reluctant if somebody wanted to gamble a couple of billion of my own money which it would of cost to compete with billionaire owned clubs funny enough!!!! lallanasatit
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lallanasatit says...

spratt wrote:
I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order.
I was embarrassed last season with all the talk of qualifying for the champions league, it was a ridiculous statement to constantly come out with, the players manager chairman actually believed that bull sh!t, when KL wasnt prepared, to let cortese play monopoly with her money, he sulked and probably threaten to resign knowing management and certain players signed to him not the club, she didnt budge he resigned, the board heve been extremely naive and were bullyed while in a weaken state, thats the onky thing I can knock the board for, im sure they would of learned a lot and will more than adequately make up some earlier mistakes. On this subject any one remember Bradford fc?? I to would be reluctant if somebody wanted to gamble a couple of billion of my own money which it would of cost to compete with billionaire owned clubs funny enough!!!!
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: I am a bit disappointed in Rickie by his comments. To begin with he needs to appreciate that it was not Liverpool that made him what he is but Saints. All this crap about "fulfilling a dream". Liverpool never ever wanted him as a player now they have to give him a token jog out to justify buying him which was probably only a snare to get Lallana. Those who deserted our club were influenced by Poxytino and big so called "stars" during the world cup. The aforementioned Judas never intended to stay after Cortese left but kept the club dangling while our players were courted. To insinuate that the Board were all to blame is most unwise and out of order.[/p][/quote]I was embarrassed last season with all the talk of qualifying for the champions league, it was a ridiculous statement to constantly come out with, the players manager chairman actually believed that bull sh!t, when KL wasnt prepared, to let cortese play monopoly with her money, he sulked and probably threaten to resign knowing management and certain players signed to him not the club, she didnt budge he resigned, the board heve been extremely naive and were bullyed while in a weaken state, thats the onky thing I can knock the board for, im sure they would of learned a lot and will more than adequately make up some earlier mistakes. On this subject any one remember Bradford fc?? I to would be reluctant if somebody wanted to gamble a couple of billion of my own money which it would of cost to compete with billionaire owned clubs funny enough!!!! lallanasatit
  • Score: 1

11:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

redsnapper says...

The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game.
Pochetino will be found out
........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL.
The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game. Pochetino will be found out ........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL. redsnapper
  • Score: 4

11:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

redsnapper says...

The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game.
Pochetino will be found out
........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL.
The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game. Pochetino will be found out ........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL. redsnapper
  • Score: 2

11:29pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Saintjock says...

costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Gaz, you've been squawking like a hysterical teenager all summer.

1. It's KL's money and thank god for that.
2. It wasn't NC''s money to have any sort of "ambition" with.
3. Get real. Saints In CL or even Europa means paying wages and players that FFP would prohibit.
4. The ambition of KL has got us here, solvent, admired globally for our values and brand of football. MBA courses will include modules on the Saints story. FA coaches will cite our academy and ethos.
5. just enjoy the next chapter with us!



5.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Gaz, you've been squawking like a hysterical teenager all summer. 1. It's KL's money and thank god for that. 2. It wasn't NC''s money to have any sort of "ambition" with. 3. Get real. Saints In CL or even Europa means paying wages and players that FFP would prohibit. 4. The ambition of KL has got us here, solvent, admired globally for our values and brand of football. MBA courses will include modules on the Saints story. FA coaches will cite our academy and ethos. 5. just enjoy the next chapter with us! 5. Saintjock
  • Score: 3

11:32pm Mon 18 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

jls217 wrote:
Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky.
What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included.
The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert.
There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger.
I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.
I like Lambert and respect for what he has done for the club. While I have no idea what happened with Poach or the players that left I agree in particular with what you say in the last paragraph of your post. I can understand backing up your team mates but the way Lovren and Lallana left the club was disgraceful.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.[/p][/quote]I like Lambert and respect for what he has done for the club. While I have no idea what happened with Poach or the players that left I agree in particular with what you say in the last paragraph of your post. I can understand backing up your team mates but the way Lovren and Lallana left the club was disgraceful. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 5

11:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Rickie seems to have got his dates muddled a bit:

"There's obviously a reason why the gaffer went and I think that was the moment that it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be."

Weird, because I was under the impression that Lallana, Rickie, Shaw and probably two others had made their minds up before Poch left.

Lambo is probably right though, Lovren will be alright, because he doesn't give a cr@p and is clearly going to be a regular. Luke, Adam and Rickie on the other hand are going to need to step things up a bit and remember what it's like to actually play football again.
Rickie seems to have got his dates muddled a bit: "There's obviously a reason why the gaffer [Pochettino] went and I think that was the moment that it became clear to the players what the ambition of the club was going to be." Weird, because I was under the impression that Lallana, Rickie, Shaw and probably two others had made their minds up before Poch left. Lambo is probably right though, Lovren will be alright, because he doesn't give a cr@p and is clearly going to be a regular. Luke, Adam and Rickie on the other hand are going to need to step things up a bit and remember what it's like to actually play football again. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

11:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Rodgers has been a prat as well this weekend - saying our board decided to sell and he had no sympathy. While to an extent, yes, if we wanted to keep them we should have taken the Morgan stance long before we did, but I'm sorry, Rodgers and the Liverpool England players were unsettling our players long before the board needed to make a decision.

Frankly though I'm beginning not to miss any of them - still playing the victim card, even Rickie.

He should have a bit more respect and remember that the board actually let him go as a reward for good service when they did legitimately want to keep him as a squad player.

In that way he owes them a lot more than he owes Lovren any sympathy for a few justified boos.
Rodgers has been a prat as well this weekend - saying our board decided to sell and he had no sympathy. While to an extent, yes, if we wanted to keep them we should have taken the Morgan stance long before we did, but I'm sorry, Rodgers and the Liverpool England players were unsettling our players long before the board needed to make a decision. Frankly though I'm beginning not to miss any of them - still playing the victim card, even Rickie. He should have a bit more respect and remember that the board actually let him go as a reward for good service when they did legitimately want to keep him as a squad player. In that way he owes them a lot more than he owes Lovren any sympathy for a few justified boos. SaintJD
  • Score: 5

11:44pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Saintjock wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Gaz, you've been squawking like a hysterical teenager all summer.

1. It's KL's money and thank god for that.
2. It wasn't NC''s money to have any sort of "ambition" with.
3. Get real. Saints In CL or even Europa means paying wages and players that FFP would prohibit.
4. The ambition of KL has got us here, solvent, admired globally for our values and brand of football. MBA courses will include modules on the Saints story. FA coaches will cite our academy and ethos.
5. just enjoy the next chapter with us!



5.
Liked a lot of posts recently but that is right up there
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Gaz, you've been squawking like a hysterical teenager all summer. 1. It's KL's money and thank god for that. 2. It wasn't NC''s money to have any sort of "ambition" with. 3. Get real. Saints In CL or even Europa means paying wages and players that FFP would prohibit. 4. The ambition of KL has got us here, solvent, admired globally for our values and brand of football. MBA courses will include modules on the Saints story. FA coaches will cite our academy and ethos. 5. just enjoy the next chapter with us! 5.[/p][/quote]Liked a lot of posts recently but that is right up there fascia123
  • Score: 3

11:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Rodgers has been a prat as well this weekend - saying our board decided to sell and he had no sympathy. While to an extent, yes, if we wanted to keep them we should have taken the Morgan stance long before we did, but I'm sorry, Rodgers and the Liverpool England players were unsettling our players long before the board needed to make a decision.

Frankly though I'm beginning not to miss any of them - still playing the victim card, even Rickie.

He should have a bit more respect and remember that the board actually let him go as a reward for good service when they did legitimately want to keep him as a squad player.

In that way he owes them a lot more than he owes Lovren any sympathy for a few justified boos.
Agree totally, may not be this year although I am not so sure after Sundays performance but the future under this new structured board and a better manager than pox I looks good.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Rodgers has been a prat as well this weekend - saying our board decided to sell and he had no sympathy. While to an extent, yes, if we wanted to keep them we should have taken the Morgan stance long before we did, but I'm sorry, Rodgers and the Liverpool England players were unsettling our players long before the board needed to make a decision. Frankly though I'm beginning not to miss any of them - still playing the victim card, even Rickie. He should have a bit more respect and remember that the board actually let him go as a reward for good service when they did legitimately want to keep him as a squad player. In that way he owes them a lot more than he owes Lovren any sympathy for a few justified boos.[/p][/quote]Agree totally, may not be this year although I am not so sure after Sundays performance but the future under this new structured board and a better manager than pox I looks good. fascia123
  • Score: 2

12:05am Tue 19 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?
Would it not be prudent to wait and see? It ain't over till the fat lady sings, or so the saying goes.

We sold some of our players for such ridiculous money perhaps it's hard to spend! I agree about January, but when bringing in so many new players in such a short space of time, would it best to keep a bit back in reserve in case they don't all pan out? Perhaps we should leave it to RK who knows a hell of a lot more about it than we do to make that decision.

are you unhappy with what you have seen in the pitch so far cos at the end of the day that's all that counts.

I'm not sure why showing ambition in football involves going out and spending obscene amounts of money on players. Perhaps, just perhaps, invest that money elsewhere and in years to come it will mean you really are in a financial position to compete with the big boys, without relying on an indulgent rich owner to share your dreams.
Agree with much of what you said. However, IMO we lack a top quality striker and those do cost money. I believe we are only short of that to be able to consistently beat the top 4-6 clubs, so why not?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though?[/p][/quote]So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?[/p][/quote]Would it not be prudent to wait and see? It ain't over till the fat lady sings, or so the saying goes. We sold some of our players for such ridiculous money perhaps it's hard to spend! I agree about January, but when bringing in so many new players in such a short space of time, would it best to keep a bit back in reserve in case they don't all pan out? Perhaps we should leave it to RK who knows a hell of a lot more about it than we do to make that decision. are you unhappy with what you have seen in the pitch so far cos at the end of the day that's all that counts. I'm not sure why showing ambition in football involves going out and spending obscene amounts of money on players. Perhaps, just perhaps, invest that money elsewhere and in years to come it will mean you really are in a financial position to compete with the big boys, without relying on an indulgent rich owner to share your dreams.[/p][/quote]Agree with much of what you said. However, IMO we lack a top quality striker and those do cost money. I believe we are only short of that to be able to consistently beat the top 4-6 clubs, so why not? DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

7:04am Tue 19 Aug 14

Totton_Saint_Andy says...

I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear
I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear Totton_Saint_Andy
  • Score: 0

7:14am Tue 19 Aug 14

Totton_Saint_Andy says...

I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal!
I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal! Totton_Saint_Andy
  • Score: -1

8:26am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Totton_Saint_Andy wrote:
I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal!
Delusional, have you got a mirror in the house?
[quote][p][bold]Totton_Saint_Andy[/bold] wrote: I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal![/p][/quote]Delusional, have you got a mirror in the house? fascia123
  • Score: 0

9:30am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too.

If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies?

Is it asset stripping though?
So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?
We don't know the full details of the financial state NC left, It will be doubtful we have had more than 25% of the transfer money at this stage so how much will this leave us with?
But we do know the financial situation, Ralph told us it was -£21m... owed to other clubs to be paid over the next 3 years As I said, a drop in the ocean for a BPL side.
If you don't believe Ralph, who are you going to believe.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]The statement was 'any monies received from player sales are 'available' for purchases'. No clubs states' if we get x million in we will spend x million'. That would be ridiculous. You could end up buying players for the sake of it. I'm sure there are more to come and they may be holding a bit back for January. Any increase in player wages will have to be factored in too. If we spend less than we get in but end up with as good or better squad does that not make us smart cookies? Is it asset stripping though?[/p][/quote]So if the money from transfers was "available" why is so much left? Saving lots for a January bid when prices are really inflated and not much is out there makes no sense. If we buy a winger for say 10 million, that still leaves a heck of a lot on the table. Does that show ambition?[/p][/quote]We don't know the full details of the financial state NC left, It will be doubtful we have had more than 25% of the transfer money at this stage so how much will this leave us with?[/p][/quote]But we do know the financial situation, Ralph told us it was -£21m... owed to other clubs to be paid over the next 3 years As I said, a drop in the ocean for a BPL side. If you don't believe Ralph, who are you going to believe. costa gaz
  • Score: 1

9:33am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

fascia123 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky.
What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included.
The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert.
There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger.
I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.
Jls you pinched my words, couldn't of said it better myself, spot on.

We all love SRL but maybe with the fax wishing him happy birthday the apparent knowledge of Lieanna being tapped up by text, perhaps his comments are just another plot to unsettle saints players and will we see. Brenda come in for another of our players, perhaps SRL ain't as innocent in all this as we all like to think.

Based on our performance Sunday they may want to swap teams.
...And I get told off for posting theories hahahahaha... are only positive theories are allowed.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.[/p][/quote]Jls you pinched my words, couldn't of said it better myself, spot on. We all love SRL but maybe with the fax wishing him happy birthday the apparent knowledge of Lieanna being tapped up by text, perhaps his comments are just another plot to unsettle saints players and will we see. Brenda come in for another of our players, perhaps SRL ain't as innocent in all this as we all like to think. Based on our performance Sunday they may want to swap teams.[/p][/quote]...And I get told off for posting theories hahahahaha... are only positive theories are allowed. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

9:38am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

10:06am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Totton_Saint_Andy wrote:
I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal!
Andy this all started back in the winter when the media were saying the manager and players would all be leaving.
How dare they print such lies, and any why would they want to leave was the shout... '' NO ONE WILL LEAVE THIS CLUB.'' The press should only be allowed to print nice stuff,especially the Echo.
One by one they all went, with no attempt by the board to keep them here, except MS, after the damage had already been done.

Ahhh but we got ridiculous money for them because they are all rubbish was the shout.... and then we pay £12.5m for Shane Long!!!.

We got in £92m and spent around half of it, but they repeated, ''We are going to finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs'', this was confirmed after the opening game of the season after Liverpool beat us 2-1.

Deluded yes, but in a nice way, the way a child still believes in Santa Claus.
[quote][p][bold]Totton_Saint_Andy[/bold] wrote: I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal![/p][/quote]Andy this all started back in the winter when the media were saying the manager and players would all be leaving. How dare they print such lies, and any why would they want to leave was the shout... '' NO ONE WILL LEAVE THIS CLUB.'' The press should only be allowed to print nice stuff,especially the Echo. One by one they all went, with no attempt by the board to keep them here, except MS, after the damage had already been done. Ahhh but we got ridiculous money for them because they are all rubbish was the shout.... and then we pay £12.5m for Shane Long!!!. We got in £92m and spent around half of it, but they repeated, ''We are going to finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs'', this was confirmed after the opening game of the season after Liverpool beat us 2-1. Deluded yes, but in a nice way, the way a child still believes in Santa Claus. costa gaz
  • Score: -3

10:14am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Totton_Saint_Andy wrote:
I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal!
Andy this all started back in the winter when the media were saying the manager and players would all be leaving.
How dare they print such lies, and any why would they want to leave was the shout... '' NO ONE WILL LEAVE THIS CLUB.'' The press should only be allowed to print nice stuff,especially the Echo.
One by one they all went, with no attempt by the board to keep them here, except MS, after the damage had already been done.

Ahhh but we got ridiculous money for them because they are all rubbish was the shout.... and then we pay £12.5m for Shane Long!!!.

We got in £92m and spent around half of it, but they repeated, ''We are going to finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs'', this was confirmed after the opening game of the season after Liverpool beat us 2-1.

Deluded yes, but in a nice way, the way a child still believes in Santa Claus.
I can't make out if you are arguing with people's posts or arguing with yourself?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totton_Saint_Andy[/bold] wrote: I guess I shouldn't be shocked or surprised by the shear number of utterly delusional fans who can't accept comments even when they come from someone we classed as a club here not too long ago. We sold our talismanic striker who had risen through the leagues with us only to be replaced by Shane Long! Saints deserve everything they get and the fans who won't see what is happening right in front of their eyes. Unreal![/p][/quote]Andy this all started back in the winter when the media were saying the manager and players would all be leaving. How dare they print such lies, and any why would they want to leave was the shout... '' NO ONE WILL LEAVE THIS CLUB.'' The press should only be allowed to print nice stuff,especially the Echo. One by one they all went, with no attempt by the board to keep them here, except MS, after the damage had already been done. Ahhh but we got ridiculous money for them because they are all rubbish was the shout.... and then we pay £12.5m for Shane Long!!!. We got in £92m and spent around half of it, but they repeated, ''We are going to finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs'', this was confirmed after the opening game of the season after Liverpool beat us 2-1. Deluded yes, but in a nice way, the way a child still believes in Santa Claus.[/p][/quote]I can't make out if you are arguing with people's posts or arguing with yourself? fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:16am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 3

10:22am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies? fascia123
  • Score: -1

10:39am Tue 19 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
You're not wrong there Kiwi..most sensible post of the thread.What's done is done,and the future is up for grabs.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]You're not wrong there Kiwi..most sensible post of the thread.What's done is done,and the future is up for grabs. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

10:40am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 3

11:03am Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage
r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints fascia123
  • Score: 1

11:13am Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA. costa gaz
  • Score: -2

11:26am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage

r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

11:36am Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
I think you are the one with tunnel vision. You can't even begin to comprehend how silly you, Rickie Poch, Lallana, Lovren may look if we actually get a better placing than last season, which given Sunday's result against last years runners up, I feel is possible once the team can integrate.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]I think you are the one with tunnel vision. You can't even begin to comprehend how silly you, Rickie Poch, Lallana, Lovren may look if we actually get a better placing than last season, which given Sunday's result against last years runners up, I feel is possible once the team can integrate. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 3

11:38am Tue 19 Aug 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
But he doesn't know what really happened Gaz. He knows the gossip that was being spread and decided to go for his own self interests. He's not a liar inasmuch as he only knows what was told him possibly from sources he trusted. He's a footballer mate not a politician.
He could've chosen to stay and put the interests of Southampton FC (as the club who fed his family and gave him the chance to play for his country) first and maybe, just maybe the damage may not have been as bad if he had - others may have taken his lead - he decided to jump ship. He was used by the power mongers behind the scenes and is now trying to make himself feel a little better about the part he played and make no mistake Gaz he played a big part even if that was only to be predictable and act in self interest and therefore in the interest of others prompting him. Squeaky clean he is not! Still loved him as a footballer while he was here but he's gone now and if he hadn't opened his predictable mouth with his predictable cognitions he would've remained a faintly fond memory in the minds of those who paid him - he made the self interest decision once again predictably and has riled enough of us to start thinking we won't be blind in our loyalty to him and start aiming our weapons at the target his self serving mouth has painted around him. Sometimes it's best the pawns just shut up, duck and fade away. He has chosen not to and is therefore fair game for us to defend our club. The man's judgement is flawed.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]But he doesn't know what really happened Gaz. He knows the gossip that was being spread and decided to go for his own self interests. He's not a liar inasmuch as he only knows what was told him possibly from sources he trusted. He's a footballer mate not a politician. He could've chosen to stay and put the interests of Southampton FC (as the club who fed his family and gave him the chance to play for his country) first and maybe, just maybe the damage may not have been as bad if he had - others may have taken his lead - he decided to jump ship. He was used by the power mongers behind the scenes and is now trying to make himself feel a little better about the part he played and make no mistake Gaz he played a big part even if that was only to be predictable and act in self interest and therefore in the interest of others prompting him. Squeaky clean he is not! Still loved him as a footballer while he was here but he's gone now and if he hadn't opened his predictable mouth with his predictable cognitions he would've remained a faintly fond memory in the minds of those who paid him - he made the self interest decision once again predictably and has riled enough of us to start thinking we won't be blind in our loyalty to him and start aiming our weapons at the target his self serving mouth has painted around him. Sometimes it's best the pawns just shut up, duck and fade away. He has chosen not to and is therefore fair game for us to defend our club. The man's judgement is flawed. jls217
  • Score: 2

12:08pm Tue 19 Aug 14

long memory says...

costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
costa gas,are you really a Saints fan.
Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed.
It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username.
The way I see it,

costa Baz = Saints supporter

costa gaz = WUM
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]costa gas,are you really a Saints fan. Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed. It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username. The way I see it, costa Baz = Saints supporter costa gaz = WUM long memory
  • Score: 2

12:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

long memory says...

long memory wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
costa gas,are you really a Saints fan.
Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed.
It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username.
The way I see it,

costa Baz = Saints supporter

costa gaz = WUM
Whoops,sorry, constant,not content
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]costa gas,are you really a Saints fan. Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed. It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username. The way I see it, costa Baz = Saints supporter costa gaz = WUM[/p][/quote]Whoops,sorry, constant,not content long memory
  • Score: 2

12:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

TheTom says...

jls217 wrote:
Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.
Well said 217 best thing I've read in ages. Also, Wanyama looks like he belongs in the top flight at last. We shall prevail COYR!!!!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Correct Ricky is respected even revered by most Saints fan but he's going the right way to make some of reassess that stance. Do not come back attacking my club Lambert. You have no say in the club and we're not interested in what you or any of the others who left have to say. You have no idea what started the ball rolling any more than I do Ricky. What sealed our fate was Pinchatinny misleading us and the board into thinking there was a possibility maybe even a probability he was going to sign a new contract. His deceit meant that for crucial weeks when we needed someone to steer the ship we were managerless. Then one by one the rats left the ship - you included. The club has succeeded in making a silk purse from the sows ear you left behind and once we have finished our buying we will have a stronger squad than the one you decided to desert. There are even signs of new must have players emerging. JWP seems to be maturing into an exciting pro, Schneiderlin could stamp his authority on the team this year. Tadic is more exciting to watch than Liarlanna, Forster is a great addition, Lovren will be more than replaced by the new lad according to those who know, Sadir hasn't drawn his guns yet, Long and JRod complementing each other and we now ave a battering ram even bigger than you and several years younger. I was gutted when the exodus started but have to admit that the Koeman bros are a step up from the non English speaker and the team they are putting into place piece by piece will be far better than the one you recall as you would have witnessed on Sunday because this team frightened the carp out of your dream move team and we're not half way to the finished item yet. So Ricky if you have nothing pleasant to say about my team keep you opinions to yourself or run the risk of alienating those who put food on your table for several years. In other words quit while you're ahead pal. You'll still get a cheer when you come here I'm sure but don't push your luck.[/p][/quote]Well said 217 best thing I've read in ages. Also, Wanyama looks like he belongs in the top flight at last. We shall prevail COYR!!!! TheTom
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Tue 19 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

12:23pm Tue 19 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

long memory wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
costa gas,are you really a Saints fan.
Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed.
It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username.
The way I see it,

costa Baz = Saints supporter

costa gaz = WUM
Dear oh dear, I think my self and costa baz, must have joined here around the same time and the similarities in our names are purely coincidental.
My name is Gary and i live on a Spanish Costa, His name is probably Barry and he may have lived or lives on the Spanish Costas.

As for my ''whinging'' it is obviously something you don't want to hear, but you seem quite happy to hear anything that you agree with.

This message board is used for debate amongst fans with differing views, it is normally a good forum although it can get a bit heated at times.
Am I a Saints fan? Of course I am and I want the best for my club, which is why I am unhappy with this summers events, I also think we'll be ok this season.... hope that clears things up for you.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]costa gas,are you really a Saints fan. Personally I am sick and tired of your content whinging,almost to the extent,you don't want the new regime to succeed. It has always seemed strange why someone would want to as near as **** it, emulate someone else's username. The way I see it, costa Baz = Saints supporter costa gaz = WUM[/p][/quote]Dear oh dear, I think my self and costa baz, must have joined here around the same time and the similarities in our names are purely coincidental. My name is Gary and i live on a Spanish Costa, His name is probably Barry and he may have lived or lives on the Spanish Costas. As for my ''whinging'' it is obviously something you don't want to hear, but you seem quite happy to hear anything that you agree with. This message board is used for debate amongst fans with differing views, it is normally a good forum although it can get a bit heated at times. Am I a Saints fan? Of course I am and I want the best for my club, which is why I am unhappy with this summers events, I also think we'll be ok this season.... hope that clears things up for you. costa gaz
  • Score: -1

1:18pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

redsnapper wrote:
The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game.
Pochetino will be found out
........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL.
Agreed. At the moment the casualties are clubs in the lower leagues (as we nearly found out ourselves five years ago), but it won't be long until it's a widespread phenomenon across the board.

The Scottish FA have shown what a complete farce the system is up here by giving Rangers a golden handshake and now they're making the same mistakes again. Even my team north of the border, Hearts, are having to rebuild with youth after spending beyond their means.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: The players are slaves to their agents who take millions out of the game. Pochetino will be found out ........and the FA better start turning the Premier League from its current status as marketing dream to a league run like the Bundesliga before it all ends in tears. The skewed power of the top 6 is wrecking the PL.[/p][/quote]Agreed. At the moment the casualties are clubs in the lower leagues (as we nearly found out ourselves five years ago), but it won't be long until it's a widespread phenomenon across the board. The Scottish FA have shown what a complete farce the system is up here by giving Rangers a golden handshake and now they're making the same mistakes again. Even my team north of the border, Hearts, are having to rebuild with youth after spending beyond their means. Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

1:50pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage


r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs. fascia123
  • Score: 2

3:52pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage



r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.[/p][/quote]Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person. fascia123
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Tue 19 Aug 14

randre says...

costa gaz wrote:
Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said.
He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!!
If lack of ambition means we can't compete with the top 4 at the moment in time then I would call that sensible management.

Due to FFP we are unable to compete and who would want to. Do you want to follow the traditions of Leeds and Portsmouth by overspending vast amounts of money whilst chasing a dream.

The players and manager that has left have done so because they didn't have the abiity to achieve Champions League football for themselves, so took the short cut.

We now have a better manager and, in my opinion, potentially a stronger and more balanced team than last year.

But then I support the club and not concern myself with the thoughts of players who only acted for themselves and Pocchettino and his merry men who lacked vision and ablity to take it any further.

If Pochttino had stayed, in my opinion, we would not have had the same success as last year, our style of play had been worked out by other teams and was no longer a surprise, Pocchettino never had a plan B to rectify his.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said. He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!![/p][/quote]If lack of ambition means we can't compete with the top 4 at the moment in time then I would call that sensible management. Due to FFP we are unable to compete and who would want to. Do you want to follow the traditions of Leeds and Portsmouth by overspending vast amounts of money whilst chasing a dream. The players and manager that has left have done so because they didn't have the abiity to achieve Champions League football for themselves, so took the short cut. We now have a better manager and, in my opinion, potentially a stronger and more balanced team than last year. But then I support the club and not concern myself with the thoughts of players who only acted for themselves and Pocchettino and his merry men who lacked vision and ablity to take it any further. If Pochttino had stayed, in my opinion, we would not have had the same success as last year, our style of play had been worked out by other teams and was no longer a surprise, Pocchettino never had a plan B to rectify his. randre
  • Score: 4

5:58pm Tue 19 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

randre wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said.
He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!!
If lack of ambition means we can't compete with the top 4 at the moment in time then I would call that sensible management.

Due to FFP we are unable to compete and who would want to. Do you want to follow the traditions of Leeds and Portsmouth by overspending vast amounts of money whilst chasing a dream.

The players and manager that has left have done so because they didn't have the abiity to achieve Champions League football for themselves, so took the short cut.

We now have a better manager and, in my opinion, potentially a stronger and more balanced team than last year.

But then I support the club and not concern myself with the thoughts of players who only acted for themselves and Pocchettino and his merry men who lacked vision and ablity to take it any further.

If Pochttino had stayed, in my opinion, we would not have had the same success as last year, our style of play had been worked out by other teams and was no longer a surprise, Pocchettino never had a plan B to rectify his.
Exactly
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Some of you who like to trawl back through old posts should find Seed's post regarding the convo he had with his neighbour, Jesus Perez, it is very similar to what Ricky has just said. He got a lot of stick over that and has endured more since, like most of us WASIF's (worried about saints immediate future, formally known as neggies) Time you all woke up to reality, stop blaming the echo and realise who, exactly, is at fault for our summer exodus... which might not be over yet!!!!!![/p][/quote]If lack of ambition means we can't compete with the top 4 at the moment in time then I would call that sensible management. Due to FFP we are unable to compete and who would want to. Do you want to follow the traditions of Leeds and Portsmouth by overspending vast amounts of money whilst chasing a dream. The players and manager that has left have done so because they didn't have the abiity to achieve Champions League football for themselves, so took the short cut. We now have a better manager and, in my opinion, potentially a stronger and more balanced team than last year. But then I support the club and not concern myself with the thoughts of players who only acted for themselves and Pocchettino and his merry men who lacked vision and ablity to take it any further. If Pochttino had stayed, in my opinion, we would not have had the same success as last year, our style of play had been worked out by other teams and was no longer a surprise, Pocchettino never had a plan B to rectify his.[/p][/quote]Exactly fascia123
  • Score: 2

7:35pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Baybrit says...

I agree with what a number of people on here have said that agents and managers destablilise and sow discontent in the background. They know that their illegal approaches are unlikely to be uncovered since the FA is only concerned about the 'elite' 6 and will always turn a blind eye to their shenanigans. The Saints board may have not shown the backbone the fans may have wanted them to but, if certain players were being pressured by their agents, the rot will have already set in and what is to say that their commitment to the Saints will then be as loyal as it should be. Their should be a group independent of, and not beholden to the FA and the 'elite' 6, set up to investigate possible illegal approaches and other shenanigans.
I agree with what a number of people on here have said that agents and managers destablilise and sow discontent in the background. They know that their illegal approaches are unlikely to be uncovered since the FA is only concerned about the 'elite' 6 and will always turn a blind eye to their shenanigans. The Saints board may have not shown the backbone the fans may have wanted them to but, if certain players were being pressured by their agents, the rot will have already set in and what is to say that their commitment to the Saints will then be as loyal as it should be. Their should be a group independent of, and not beholden to the FA and the 'elite' 6, set up to investigate possible illegal approaches and other shenanigans. Baybrit
  • Score: 2

8:06pm Tue 19 Aug 14

peregrine73 says...

Watching chambers play for Arsenal, he looks the part now he has been given the opportunity!. I think in all the failures of reed and Krueger letting our nucleus of the team go,chambers has be there biggest gaff! A natural defender of already England quality!.
Watching chambers play for Arsenal, he looks the part now he has been given the opportunity!. I think in all the failures of reed and Krueger letting our nucleus of the team go,chambers has be there biggest gaff! A natural defender of already England quality!. peregrine73
  • Score: -2

6:13am Wed 20 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage




r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.
My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.[/p][/quote]Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.[/p][/quote]My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

8:42am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise.

When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future.

Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club.

Up the saints.
I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise. When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future. Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club. Up the saints. fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:11am Wed 20 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage





r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.
My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts
I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise.

When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future.

Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club.

Up the saints.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.[/p][/quote]Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.[/p][/quote]My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts[/p][/quote]I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise. When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future. Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club. Up the saints. fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:33am Wed 20 Aug 14

costa gaz says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate?
Just to talk about the topic we have been given to discuss, If the thread was about team matters and performance I'd be discussing that .
Now have you anything to add to the debate regarding the headline? Mate!
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate?[/p][/quote]Just to talk about the topic we have been given to discuss, If the thread was about team matters and performance I'd be discussing that . Now have you anything to add to the debate regarding the headline? Mate! costa gaz
  • Score: -2

4:51pm Wed 20 Aug 14

randre says...

fascia123 wrote:
I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise.

When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future.

Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club.

Up the saints.
100%. It is bad enough the mercenary manager, players and media kicking the club at every possibility. As supporters we have to show solidarity, stand together and protect the club we love.

Being a supporter of a club like Southampton us a special personal thing, we have not been sold the club on glory like supporters of the big teams. We have the club in our hearts and it is ours to be proud of.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise. When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future. Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]100%. It is bad enough the mercenary manager, players and media kicking the club at every possibility. As supporters we have to show solidarity, stand together and protect the club we love. Being a supporter of a club like Southampton us a special personal thing, we have not been sold the club on glory like supporters of the big teams. We have the club in our hearts and it is ours to be proud of. randre
  • Score: 0

11:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

costa gaz wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient.
You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying.
As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.
Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate?
Just to talk about the topic we have been given to discuss, If the thread was about team matters and performance I'd be discussing that .
Now have you anything to add to the debate regarding the headline? Mate!
I tried that, but you weren't happy with polar opposites to your views as you already posted. Rickies statement was at best suggestive, had no evidence to back any of it up. Until I see that I will believe that those players were just after a shortcut to cup glory and most important, more money.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Yep, now that someone who was involved has said what really happened, lets drop it and move on... very convenient. You have such tunnel vision that you believe that Ricky Lambert must be a liar because YOU refuse to believe what he is saying. As I said, fingers in the ears shouting LALALALALALA.[/p][/quote]Hi, my name is KiwiSaint, I'm here to talk about the team and meet like minded supporters of the saints. What the hell are you here for mate?[/p][/quote]Just to talk about the topic we have been given to discuss, If the thread was about team matters and performance I'd be discussing that . Now have you anything to add to the debate regarding the headline? Mate![/p][/quote]I tried that, but you weren't happy with polar opposites to your views as you already posted. Rickies statement was at best suggestive, had no evidence to back any of it up. Until I see that I will believe that those players were just after a shortcut to cup glory and most important, more money. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

11:48pm Wed 20 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage






r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.
My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts
I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise.

When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future.

Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club.

Up the saints.
Trying to glean the situation through one too many beers, insomnia and anger at the WUM's on here at that time did affect my judgement with my reply to your post. I hope that you will accept my apology for my defensive retort.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.[/p][/quote]Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.[/p][/quote]My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts[/p][/quote]I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise. When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future. Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]Trying to glean the situation through one too many beers, insomnia and anger at the WUM's on here at that time did affect my judgement with my reply to your post. I hope that you will accept my apology for my defensive retort. KiwiSaint74
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8:16pm Thu 21 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
footballfan123 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth.
what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you.
But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip.
Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it.

Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition.

Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.
one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.
123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you.
We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time.
We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.
When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.
So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview.
Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.
Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it?

What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works?

All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques.

I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....
We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.
Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts.
Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.
I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.
I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?
Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.
The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage







r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain.

Up the saints
If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother
I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks.

As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.
Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.
My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts
I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise.

When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future.

Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club.

Up the saints.
Trying to glean the situation through one too many beers, insomnia and anger at the WUM's on here at that time did affect my judgement with my reply to your post. I hope that you will accept my apology for my defensive retort.
No problem, I have seen far worse chucked about in the name of loving your football team.

I agree it can be dangerous to get on here after a few drinks, I have read through some of my historical late night posts and I think perhaps I need to apologise to a few.

Will have a few more on the train down on Saturday and enjoy a good saints win, hopefully.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So some of you won't blame kalamity Kate and her sidekicks even when you hear it from the horses mouth. what Ricky has said is only what some of us have been trying to explain for 3/4 months now. Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said LALALALALALALA I can't hear you. But now we have it from one of our own.... and it is still malicious gossip. Even is Les Reed said it you lot would still not believe it. Official; Saint exodus was caused by lack of ambition. Now get on the thumbs down, because if enough of you vote down it might all go away.[/p][/quote]one of our own! A player who left the club. If he loved us that much he would have stayed! If he loved us that much, he wouldn't be trying to unsettle us. We have just had a great display at Liverpool. He is now influencing our players by getting at our board. While he enjoys champions league football and lots of money he could be influencing our players in a negative way.[/p][/quote]123, if you really want to believe that, then it is up to you. We will recover from the summer of 2014, but we won't be challenging the big boys again for a very long time. We had one real go then we gave up, Cortese saw it Poch saw it and so did our top players. Everyone who left, cited ambition as the reason for going.[/p][/quote]When ML purchased the club he had a 5 year plan to get the club on a financially stable footing and to get us back into the PL. None of us knows if the plan went 'beyond' that to include CL football. When ML passed away only 1 year into that plan NC became the main hand at the helm. How do we know he didn't sell the players a load of bull to get them to sign/stay. I feel that what was once ML's plan may have morphed into NC's plan somewhere along the line. If the 'ambition' has been reduced, maybe it's just back to where it rightly was in the first place. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. It's just my opinion. TBH Costa Gaz, your 'theory' is just that, a 'theory' so stop telling every else they are wrong.[/p][/quote]So is your denial of what has gone on..... it's just that our theories oppose each others... not telling anyone they are wrong, just commenting on Lamberts interview. Was that true or theory? Don't forget he worked for the company and was friendly with NC and MP.[/p][/quote]Some have stuck their fingers in their ears and said lalalalalala I can't hear you..... That's not telling people their wrong then is it? What RL said is neither true or theory it's eeerrrm what he said, and again, his opinion, his interpretation of the situation. He told someone I know in December 2013 he was going to Liverpool at the end of the season. Was a decision taken that early related to the board's ambition ?Alan Hansen predicted at the end of last season there would be a mass exodus. Inside knowledge of the board or just experience of how the Pl food chain works? All I'm saying is maybe the board had to readjust the 'ambition' because NC's idea of the club's ambition wasn't the owners? Anything wrong there - after all, she's the one signing the cheques. I notice your asset stripping posts, telling us all we are blind cos we can't see what's going on, have come to a halt since the club has spent circa £60m on transfers....[/p][/quote]We may have spent 60 million, but we were promised thirty and what we made on transfers. To me that is 120 million. Spending half does not show as much ambition as we need. It shows maintenance at best.[/p][/quote]Thinklikealocal, I have never ever said the club were asset stripping, if you want to argue with me please be in possession of facts. Sticking you fingers in your ears is not telling you that you were wrong it is telling you that you are not prepared to listen.... 2 different things.[/p][/quote]I don't like to generalize, but I feel I can safely assume that nearly everyone is sick to death of the endless ways that this issue has been sliced and over analysed, sometimes to the point of paranoia in hindsight. I think it's high time we move on from the Nicola Cortese and Pochetinno era and embrace the new one. Regardless of whether or not it works out as we would like.[/p][/quote]I do notice that all the posies are being accused of over analysing things and we should move on, is it more than the despicable lack of faith in all the negative shyte that was being chucked at the club and board is now a little embarrassing for all those neggies?[/p][/quote]Not so much an accusation as an observation. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't agree with the way everything that has handled, but personally have come to the conclusion that it's much more enjoyable to support the club and our boys rather than squabble about things in the past that happened in upper management which can't be substantiated by anyone here.[/p][/quote]The key words you use are supporting your club, not having a go at the board,players,manage r and almost giving god status to those who have walked away from the club and the fans for their own gain. Up the saints[/p][/quote]If you actually read my post rather than concentrating on you snippy comeback, you might notice that I said I thought it was time to move on from the Poch era, so naturally I was talking about the team who currently play for us. I don't put players on a pedestal or worship them as gods. I was referring to the TEAM. And yes the club. The only god for me in Southampton is MLS. Fair enough to question things but to get manic about it is something else. I guess you are going to get really angry when we start playing well and you may be proven wrong in your assumptions. We march on brother[/p][/quote]I don't suppose my snippy come back that I concentrated on is really aimed at you and your posts more all the **** that has been chucked about over the previous weeks. As you say onwards and upwards and the severe hope we can finish above Brenda's and Poxis mobs.[/p][/quote]Sorry just reread your post me get angry when play well, is that directed at me, if is I think you have the wrong person.[/p][/quote]My apologies 123 if that's the case I may have misinterpreted the tone of your posts[/p][/quote]I have total support for club, manager, owner, board, supporters in the main, I am as positive as they come I can't see from my posts you could see otherwise. When battered with bloody club, board, they are selling, etc etc I like to chuck an alternative in for them to chew on, and I have never been or will be a fan of NC also I may dwell on the conspiracy theory a little too much but the conceit in me says I will be proven somewhere near right in the future. Have loved SFC through thick and thin for nearly 50 years and will continue to do so, I am never negative towards my club. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]Trying to glean the situation through one too many beers, insomnia and anger at the WUM's on here at that time did affect my judgement with my reply to your post. I hope that you will accept my apology for my defensive retort.[/p][/quote]No problem, I have seen far worse chucked about in the name of loving your football team. I agree it can be dangerous to get on here after a few drinks, I have read through some of my historical late night posts and I think perhaps I need to apologise to a few. Will have a few more on the train down on Saturday and enjoy a good saints win, hopefully. fascia123
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