Florin Gardos could make his Saints debut against West Bromwich Albion

Gardos could make Saints debut

Gardos could make Saints debut

First published in Sport Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Saints will decide today whether Florin Gardos is fit enough to make his debut for the club in tomorrow’s match against West Brom.

The £6m signing, who joined from Steaua Bucharest just over a week ago, was unavailable for the trip to Liverpool because of a pre-existing hamstring injury.

Gardos is close to returning from that problem, though, and has been taking part in full training.

The centre half will be assessed after today’s session, although Saints manager Ronald Koeman insisted they will not take any risks with the 25-year-old.

He said: “Florin Gardos is training with the group, but we have to make the decision (today), can he be one of the team or not?

“We don’t take a high risk in that, because he had a hamstring four or five weeks ago.

“Yes or no, it’s difficult to take that decision. We will do that (today).”

Koeman confirmed that, if Gardos is not fit for West Brom, then he should be available for the trip to West Ham next week.

One player who will definitely not play tomorrow is Gaston Ramirez, who remains sidelined.

The Uruguayan struggled with tendinitis in his knee after returning from the World Cup, while he now has a groin issue.

“Ramirez still is not 100 per cent,” said Koeman. “(Yesterday) he didn’t train with the group, and he’s not in shape for this weekend. We hope for the next.

“It’s difficult, because every player needs continued playing and continued training to be 100 per cent.

“We took him out now, and he will start normally from Monday.”

Koeman revealed that, outside of those two players, he has no other fitness concerns.

“The rest of the boys are in a good condition for this weekend,” he said.

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6:14am Fri 22 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Hope he is fit to play, I'm hanging to see how he performs.
Hope he is fit to play, I'm hanging to see how he performs. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 18

6:47am Fri 22 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -66

6:51am Fri 22 Aug 14

Tootingsaint says...

Agree, Pelle looked completely out if his depth. His hairdo was immaculate though. We must be able to create a song out of that.
Agree, Pelle looked completely out if his depth. His hairdo was immaculate though. We must be able to create a song out of that. Tootingsaint
  • Score: -1

7:02am Fri 22 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle.

But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released.

Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions.

The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days.

So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there.

COYR&WS
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle. But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released. Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions. The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days. So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there. COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 0

7:25am Fri 22 Aug 14

cbuk says...

RK is not going to give Fonte the armband if he is looking to replace him, also he was immense against the scousers last week. Agree Pelle looked poor but give him time. Big plus was JWP, man of the match.
Can't wait for Saturday.
COYR.
RK is not going to give Fonte the armband if he is looking to replace him, also he was immense against the scousers last week. Agree Pelle looked poor but give him time. Big plus was JWP, man of the match. Can't wait for Saturday. COYR. cbuk
  • Score: 35

7:40am Fri 22 Aug 14

Mush On The Beach says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle.

But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released.

Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions.

The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days.

So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there.

COYR&WS
I agree with the majority of your points made. We do look a bit thin on class finishers as was exposed at Anfield. I touted E’to as a suggestion before Chelski picked him up. From what I saw of him, he was no longer the great player he once was and so felt relieved in the end that we didn’t get him. I’ve heard a rumour that Liverpool will make a late go for him even after they have signed Balotelli to add depth to their squad.

The January transfer window is indeed a long way off and from memory is normally the window of over-inflated prices, so let’s hope Les can do his business now.

I’m sure it’s been said many times already but what a ridiculous scenario it is to have the transfer window still open after the season starts.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle. But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released. Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions. The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days. So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]I agree with the majority of your points made. We do look a bit thin on class finishers as was exposed at Anfield. I touted E’to as a suggestion before Chelski picked him up. From what I saw of him, he was no longer the great player he once was and so felt relieved in the end that we didn’t get him. I’ve heard a rumour that Liverpool will make a late go for him even after they have signed Balotelli to add depth to their squad. The January transfer window is indeed a long way off and from memory is normally the window of over-inflated prices, so let’s hope Les can do his business now. I’m sure it’s been said many times already but what a ridiculous scenario it is to have the transfer window still open after the season starts. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 7

7:43am Fri 22 Aug 14

nomorerumours says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season. nomorerumours
  • Score: 60

7:45am Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Okay regardless of what happens against the Baggies and I reckon we've got enough to win comfortably.

Think on this - here we are at the end of a summer break that would've broken many other teams thrown into the position we stumbled into and we still have - all waiting to come back from injury - a Romanian international, a Uruguayan international and an English International and a Polish international deciding whether to stay with us or not. Plus one maybe two signings yet to come and still with millions of squids in the war chest.

Times have rarely been this good for us - celebrate fellow Saints fans. This is going to be a good season but just wait for the one after this.
Okay regardless of what happens against the Baggies and I reckon we've got enough to win comfortably. Think on this - here we are at the end of a summer break that would've broken many other teams thrown into the position we stumbled into and we still have - all waiting to come back from injury - a Romanian international, a Uruguayan international and an English International and a Polish international deciding whether to stay with us or not. Plus one maybe two signings yet to come and still with millions of squids in the war chest. Times have rarely been this good for us - celebrate fellow Saints fans. This is going to be a good season but just wait for the one after this. jls217
  • Score: 29

7:50am Fri 22 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

If Gardos turns out as good as the unproffessional Lovren then we'll have made a £14mil profit. As I see it so far Bertrand will be equally as good , if not better than LS. That's a £27mil profit while he is on loan and around £20mil if we eventually sign him. Tadic looked pretty tasty too and will most likely prove more effective than Liarlanna for a £9mil profit. Already has one assist. Just need Long and Pelle to start bagging a few and we'll be looking as strong as last year. We still have to see what Taider is capable of as well. So taking out the £10mil for the new keeper the finances must be in pretty healthy state, given the £16 mil price tag on Chambers and the £4mil for SRL. I really hope we get in a speedy, tricky winger (not Townsend please) who can cross a good ball and then we can hold some in reserve for the next window. Hopefully JRod has been given the same message as Morgan too and that he comes back fit and strong if Pelle doesn't come up to scratch. Could be a difficult game Saturday. The boring boing boings came to park the bus last year and their keeper was time wasting big time from the very first minute. As usual the inept ref failed to do anything about it. When they went one down he suddenly turned into an Olympic sprinter. Funny that.
If Gardos turns out as good as the unproffessional Lovren then we'll have made a £14mil profit. As I see it so far Bertrand will be equally as good , if not better than LS. That's a £27mil profit while he is on loan and around £20mil if we eventually sign him. Tadic looked pretty tasty too and will most likely prove more effective than Liarlanna for a £9mil profit. Already has one assist. Just need Long and Pelle to start bagging a few and we'll be looking as strong as last year. We still have to see what Taider is capable of as well. So taking out the £10mil for the new keeper the finances must be in pretty healthy state, given the £16 mil price tag on Chambers and the £4mil for SRL. I really hope we get in a speedy, tricky winger (not Townsend please) who can cross a good ball and then we can hold some in reserve for the next window. Hopefully JRod has been given the same message as Morgan too and that he comes back fit and strong if Pelle doesn't come up to scratch. Could be a difficult game Saturday. The boring boing boings came to park the bus last year and their keeper was time wasting big time from the very first minute. As usual the inept ref failed to do anything about it. When they went one down he suddenly turned into an Olympic sprinter. Funny that. Clever Dick
  • Score: 15

7:53am Fri 22 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Should we sign Lambert on loan? He will need game time.
Should we sign Lambert on loan? He will need game time. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 30

7:54am Fri 22 Aug 14

north wales saint 2 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle.

But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released.

Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions.

The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days.

So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there.

COYR&WS
Guess who gave you the thumbs down,what is it with you and Fonte?My opinion, I reiterate again well worthy of the captains arm band and alongside a quality centre back with Yoshida as back up I feel we are fine in that position.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle. But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released. Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions. The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days. So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Guess who gave you the thumbs down,what is it with you and Fonte?My opinion, I reiterate again well worthy of the captains arm band and alongside a quality centre back with Yoshida as back up I feel we are fine in that position. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 19

8:11am Fri 22 Aug 14

Jon Forte says...

In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly... Jon Forte
  • Score: -39

8:12am Fri 22 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle.

But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released.

Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions.

The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days.

So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there.

COYR&WS
Guess who gave you the thumbs down,what is it with you and Fonte?My opinion, I reiterate again well worthy of the captains arm band and alongside a quality centre back with Yoshida as back up I feel we are fine in that position.
Agree with you north Wales saint. It wasn't that long ago the press were suggesting Fonte could make Portugal world cup squad. In hindsight I bet they wish they had. We don't seem to be playing the high pressing game now and this may suit our current CB's. Although as much as I am sure Jos is a top bloke I accept he is probably out of his depth in the PL.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Agree with our need for a top Goalscorer (E'to is available on a free) plus a pacy winger with a good cross to get the best from Pelle. But I disagree with the CB position. We still need to sign a BETTER CB than we currently have. Hopefully Gardos does prove to be as good as Lovren, but what if he at the level of Hoover who can now be released. Last season we recognized the need for a better CB to partner Lovren with Fonte making the main three competing for the center of defence giving good cover for injuries & suspensions. The January transfer window is a long way off so it would be a big gamble not to sign another CB in next ten days. So still 3 top quality players needed and we will then be better than last season, keep working on it Les you are slowly getting there. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Guess who gave you the thumbs down,what is it with you and Fonte?My opinion, I reiterate again well worthy of the captains arm band and alongside a quality centre back with Yoshida as back up I feel we are fine in that position.[/p][/quote]Agree with you north Wales saint. It wasn't that long ago the press were suggesting Fonte could make Portugal world cup squad. In hindsight I bet they wish they had. We don't seem to be playing the high pressing game now and this may suit our current CB's. Although as much as I am sure Jos is a top bloke I accept he is probably out of his depth in the PL. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 10

8:16am Fri 22 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -1

8:22am Fri 22 Aug 14

JSYSAINT says...

I also think we need another CB. Yoshida isn't good enough, along with Pelle, they were the poorest of the Saints players vs Liverpool. Pelle has the potential to improve and be an asset, Yoshida has been poor for a while. With Jay coming back relatively soon, a winger and a CB would be my priorities.
I also think we need another CB. Yoshida isn't good enough, along with Pelle, they were the poorest of the Saints players vs Liverpool. Pelle has the potential to improve and be an asset, Yoshida has been poor for a while. With Jay coming back relatively soon, a winger and a CB would be my priorities. JSYSAINT
  • Score: -12

8:26am Fri 22 Aug 14

Harry Bong says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I remember thinking Rodriguez was awful when we first signed him, so give Pelle a chance to prove himself.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I remember thinking Rodriguez was awful when we first signed him, so give Pelle a chance to prove himself. Harry Bong
  • Score: 28

8:38am Fri 22 Aug 14

the Newmarket Saint says...

Well at last we get to know about our team injuries, well done Ron for being honest unlike the the last prat who kept us in the dark and fed us ****,must have thought we were a load of mushrooms COYR +WS
Well at last we get to know about our team injuries, well done Ron for being honest unlike the the last prat who kept us in the dark and fed us ****,must have thought we were a load of mushrooms COYR +WS the Newmarket Saint
  • Score: 9

8:39am Fri 22 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons. Clever Dick
  • Score: -4

8:52am Fri 22 Aug 14

oh when the saints says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here.

He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL.

I do believe that he will bang plenty in!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.[/p][/quote]I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here. He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL. I do believe that he will bang plenty in! oh when the saints
  • Score: 27

8:54am Fri 22 Aug 14

Bassett Boy says...

in years gone by all these 'who's better than who?' & 'what we neeed is' conversations would have been conducted with your mates down the pub over a few beers.
When you've had a few beers all sorts of cr@p comments & opinions seem sensible.
Trouble is i'm sober and most of them don't!
in years gone by all these 'who's better than who?' & 'what we neeed is' conversations would have been conducted with your mates down the pub over a few beers. When you've had a few beers all sorts of cr@p comments & opinions seem sensible. Trouble is i'm sober and most of them don't! Bassett Boy
  • Score: 17

9:03am Fri 22 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Well personally I think that yoshi and fonte did more than enough on Sunday, odd slip up but show me a defence or defender that doesn't make mistakes. I do think yoshi is underrated by some, he is a a very capable player and a more than adequate back up. I trust the opinion of ronnie, who really should know enough about his position to know if a player is good enough or not, when it comes to bringing in new players. If Ronnie is happy with our CB's then I guess I am.
Cant believe people are writing off pelle already, one game against liverhampton and people are already calling for replacements!
Eto'o is past it and would want around £100k a week minimum, and still wouldn't sign for us. He was on £7mill a year at chelski and took a £13mill drop to go there, I don't think he would add enough to the team to justify paying so much in wages.
Well personally I think that yoshi and fonte did more than enough on Sunday, odd slip up but show me a defence or defender that doesn't make mistakes. I do think yoshi is underrated by some, he is a a very capable player and a more than adequate back up. I trust the opinion of ronnie, who really should know enough about his position to know if a player is good enough or not, when it comes to bringing in new players. If Ronnie is happy with our CB's then I guess I am. Cant believe people are writing off pelle already, one game against liverhampton and people are already calling for replacements! Eto'o is past it and would want around £100k a week minimum, and still wouldn't sign for us. He was on £7mill a year at chelski and took a £13mill drop to go there, I don't think he would add enough to the team to justify paying so much in wages. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 9

9:03am Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS! jls217
  • Score: 4

9:08am Fri 22 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
Extraordinary comment....for goodness sake the man has just played one game and has been a lonely figure up front....remember how long it took JayRod to settle...and then look at how he 'developed'...the same goes for Shane Long...we need to give these players time and patience and above all support.....we cannot expect an instant impact from players playing in a new team, new system and new league....we loved Lambert, but I do not seem to remember him scoring in every game, and take away the penalties and he was averaging about 10 per season....Long and Pelle will both score at least 10 each if given play time and support from our 'supporters'
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]Extraordinary comment....for goodness sake the man has just played one game and has been a lonely figure up front....remember how long it took JayRod to settle...and then look at how he 'developed'...the same goes for Shane Long...we need to give these players time and patience and above all support.....we cannot expect an instant impact from players playing in a new team, new system and new league....we loved Lambert, but I do not seem to remember him scoring in every game, and take away the penalties and he was averaging about 10 per season....Long and Pelle will both score at least 10 each if given play time and support from our 'supporters' Wembley76
  • Score: 20

9:08am Fri 22 Aug 14

BarnetSaint says...

Many of us didn't rate J Rod to begin with.
Players need a bit of time to adjust. Let's judge them after 10 games.
Get yourselves down to St M tomorrow people.
Many of us didn't rate J Rod to begin with. Players need a bit of time to adjust. Let's judge them after 10 games. Get yourselves down to St M tomorrow people. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 13

9:09am Fri 22 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
What about Fox and Hoover?
They shared the honour with guly didn't they, and we've still got Hoover!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.[/p][/quote]What about Fox and Hoover? They shared the honour with guly didn't they, and we've still got Hoover! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

9:17am Fri 22 Aug 14

damoose says...

Some guys here are forgetting we have a highly regarded CB who is a former England youth captain,it seems the manager has big plans for him as he made the bench on Sunday...as for Pelle just pray he never makes this list

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Some guys here are forgetting we have a highly regarded CB who is a former England youth captain,it seems the manager has big plans for him as he made the bench on Sunday...as for Pelle just pray he never makes this list http://whatculture.c om/sport/10-southamp ton-foreign-import-s trikers-who-were-maj or-flops.php? damoose
  • Score: 0

9:19am Fri 22 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve? Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -12

9:40am Fri 22 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve?
Bring back Papa Waigo!!
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve?[/p][/quote]Bring back Papa Waigo!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 4

9:45am Fri 22 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Not trying to blame JWP, I thought he had a great game, but in Pelle's case, there was one time that looked like a goal during the Liverpool match where JWP and Pelle got confused. Pelle was expecting a through ball and cut towards the centre while JWP thought to cut out left, which resulted in him being dispossessed and the ball turned over. That mistake more than anything highlighted that a bit more training linking up passes and moves between the midfield and forwards is needed. To people who want to target Pelle I recall Shane Long didn't have the best game either. Let's give them a chance to find their feet before passing judgement.
Not trying to blame JWP, I thought he had a great game, but in Pelle's case, there was one time that looked like a goal during the Liverpool match where JWP and Pelle got confused. Pelle was expecting a through ball and cut towards the centre while JWP thought to cut out left, which resulted in him being dispossessed and the ball turned over. That mistake more than anything highlighted that a bit more training linking up passes and moves between the midfield and forwards is needed. To people who want to target Pelle I recall Shane Long didn't have the best game either. Let's give them a chance to find their feet before passing judgement. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 10

9:58am Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve?
Experience tells me that you cannot know how a player will turn out simply by observing one match.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]My opinion, like yours, is not dependent on IQ - it's based on experience and observation. Great players hit the ground running or at least show some form of competence on the ball - Pelle didn't contribute at all on Sunday and looked inept - I hope that he improves, but as things stand, he looks a waste of money. That's my opinion and it's based on performance to date, only. He may improve, but did, say, Guly, or McGoldrick ever improve?[/p][/quote]Experience tells me that you cannot know how a player will turn out simply by observing one match. Rising_Son
  • Score: 11

10:06am Fri 22 Aug 14

gazw1976 says...

fonte , gardos , yoshi an jos with young stephens is good enough for cb , jos is not a bad defender how many of his "errors" were down to fox dissapearing ( lots) yoshi got better as the game went on sunday looked like he wasnt confident early on but lets help them by cheering them on . an as for pelle / long give them a break theyve only been here 5 minutes jay rod took a while to get going Coyr
fonte , gardos , yoshi an jos with young stephens is good enough for cb , jos is not a bad defender how many of his "errors" were down to fox dissapearing ( lots) yoshi got better as the game went on sunday looked like he wasnt confident early on but lets help them by cheering them on . an as for pelle / long give them a break theyve only been here 5 minutes jay rod took a while to get going Coyr gazw1976
  • Score: 8

10:33am Fri 22 Aug 14

Confucious says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
What about Fox and Hoover?
They shared the honour with guly didn't they, and we've still got Hoover!
I think the jury's out on that one as it wasn't clear if Guly's problems were Fox's fault or Fox's problems were caused by Guly.

I
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.[/p][/quote]What about Fox and Hoover? They shared the honour with guly didn't they, and we've still got Hoover![/p][/quote]I think the jury's out on that one as it wasn't clear if Guly's problems were Fox's fault or Fox's problems were caused by Guly. I Confucious
  • Score: 2

11:12am Fri 22 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Wembley76 wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
Extraordinary comment....for goodness sake the man has just played one game and has been a lonely figure up front....remember how long it took JayRod to settle...and then look at how he 'developed'...the same goes for Shane Long...we need to give these players time and patience and above all support.....we cannot expect an instant impact from players playing in a new team, new system and new league....we loved Lambert, but I do not seem to remember him scoring in every game, and take away the penalties and he was averaging about 10 per season....Long and Pelle will both score at least 10 each if given play time and support from our 'supporters'
I may be wrong but I think he's saying that some people are already getting at Pelle in the same way that people once got at Guly. I don't think he's saying that Pelle deserves the criticism he's getting.

It's sometimes hard to tell on these threads, especially for those who really don't get irony, pathos or sarcasm. Take Clever Dick's comment above. As ever, his tongue is firmly in his cheek but a number of people have taken him seriously. Furthermore, many wouldn't notice a metaphor if it hit them smack between the eyes like a hammer.

Mind you, it's mordancy I feel for, I think it's losing its edge.
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]Extraordinary comment....for goodness sake the man has just played one game and has been a lonely figure up front....remember how long it took JayRod to settle...and then look at how he 'developed'...the same goes for Shane Long...we need to give these players time and patience and above all support.....we cannot expect an instant impact from players playing in a new team, new system and new league....we loved Lambert, but I do not seem to remember him scoring in every game, and take away the penalties and he was averaging about 10 per season....Long and Pelle will both score at least 10 each if given play time and support from our 'supporters'[/p][/quote]I may be wrong but I think he's saying that some people are already getting at Pelle in the same way that people once got at Guly. I don't think he's saying that Pelle deserves the criticism he's getting. It's sometimes hard to tell on these threads, especially for those who really don't get irony, pathos or sarcasm. Take Clever Dick's comment above. As ever, his tongue is firmly in his cheek but a number of people have taken him seriously. Furthermore, many wouldn't notice a metaphor if it hit them smack between the eyes like a hammer. Mind you, it's mordancy I feel for, I think it's losing its edge. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

11:32am Fri 22 Aug 14

Stnana says...

jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
Sorry jls but it's you who needs to proof read , what Littleton actually wrote was "more than one game to prove himself "and not " one more game to prove himself " as you quoted . I usually agree with your comments but in this case I think you've got it wrong !
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]Sorry jls but it's you who needs to proof read , what Littleton actually wrote was "more than one game to prove himself "and not " one more game to prove himself " as you quoted . I usually agree with your comments but in this case I think you've got it wrong ! Stnana
  • Score: 11

11:37am Fri 22 Aug 14

prawn89 says...

jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
Agree! Yes, he wasn't amazing, but there were a few knock downs and flick ons to build on for this game. Koeman will know what he is about, and clearly signed him for these reasons. How about we trust our manager?

He will learn, give him time.

Calling him out as 'totally inept' after one game? Come on mate!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]Agree! Yes, he wasn't amazing, but there were a few knock downs and flick ons to build on for this game. Koeman will know what he is about, and clearly signed him for these reasons. How about we trust our manager? He will learn, give him time. Calling him out as 'totally inept' after one game? Come on mate! prawn89
  • Score: 6

12:32pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

oh when the saints wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here.

He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL.

I do believe that he will bang plenty in!
The posts taking digs at certain players (bar the tongue in cheek one) are from bored Pompey fans - ignore them.

Pelle has all the attributes needed to be a top striker in the Premier League and Long will surprise a few people.
[quote][p][bold]oh when the saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.[/p][/quote]I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here. He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL. I do believe that he will bang plenty in![/p][/quote]The posts taking digs at certain players (bar the tongue in cheek one) are from bored Pompey fans - ignore them. Pelle has all the attributes needed to be a top striker in the Premier League and Long will surprise a few people. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Oh, and as for the subject of this article, I'd probably not risk him, but for the fact that it's our best chance to put him to the test prior to the transfer window closing. For that reason it might be worth giving him a run out just to check his general ability to adapt, though taking into account he'll be rusty. I think you can usually tell pretty quickly if a centre back is going to fit the bill.
Oh, and as for the subject of this article, I'd probably not risk him, but for the fact that it's our best chance to put him to the test prior to the transfer window closing. For that reason it might be worth giving him a run out just to check his general ability to adapt, though taking into account he'll be rusty. I think you can usually tell pretty quickly if a centre back is going to fit the bill. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

12:39pm Fri 22 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Stnana wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.
For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself".
Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality.

I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS!
Sorry jls but it's you who needs to proof read , what Littleton actually wrote was "more than one game to prove himself "and not " one more game to prove himself " as you quoted . I usually agree with your comments but in this case I think you've got it wrong !
The very nerve of you suggesting I got it wrong!.

Seems I need to practice what I preach. Littleton please disregard my tirade.

I lagopolise stom soprufely and will will promise to buck up as opposed to **** up - lacerate me gently please gentlemen. It appears I'm a mite dim!
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - I kept believing McGoldrick would come good in the first team, too, all those years back, but sometimes the step upwards is too big. The Prem is a lot more switched on than the Eredivisie I agree that Pelle deserves more than one game to prove himself, but he wasn't on the planet on Sunday and will need to shape up pretty soon, if we are to maintain a top half spot this season. In TinTin we trust. COYR.[/p][/quote]For crying out loud listen to yourself, "One more game to prove himself". Experience PL managers and coaches will tell you it can take a complete season for a quality player to adjust and then show that quality. I despair sometimes - Just use your brain and read back what you're about to post and ask yourself if you're being a mite dim - if that is a recurring problem with you - stop posting alotgether - cos sure as excretia it means you are indeed a mite dim and would better serve yourself by saying nowt until you have someone with an IQ into double figures proof read it first. One more game to prove himself FFS![/p][/quote]Sorry jls but it's you who needs to proof read , what Littleton actually wrote was "more than one game to prove himself "and not " one more game to prove himself " as you quoted . I usually agree with your comments but in this case I think you've got it wrong ![/p][/quote]The very nerve of you suggesting I got it wrong!. Seems I need to practice what I preach. Littleton please disregard my tirade. I lagopolise stom soprufely and will will promise to buck up as opposed to **** up - lacerate me gently please gentlemen. It appears I'm a mite dim! jls217
  • Score: 4

1:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Saintjock says...

Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
Hope so. Guly's match winning goals and assists got us to the top of the Championship and secured our promotion to the Prem. Great team player. If Pelle can reproduce either Guly's sublime lay-off to deRidder away v Reading or his flicked header away v Coventry I'll be happy.

Looks like there's a strong correlation between those who would even think to judge Pelle on one Prem game and those who used to slag off Guly. That would be about right.
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]Hope so. Guly's match winning goals and assists got us to the top of the Championship and secured our promotion to the Prem. Great team player. If Pelle can reproduce either Guly's sublime lay-off to deRidder away v Reading or his flicked header away v Coventry I'll be happy. Looks like there's a strong correlation between those who would even think to judge Pelle on one Prem game and those who used to slag off Guly. That would be about right. Saintjock
  • Score: 8

1:23pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Tootingsaint says...

SaintJD wrote:
oh when the saints wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Jon Forte wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.
I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here. He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL. I do believe that he will bang plenty in!
The posts taking digs at certain players (bar the tongue in cheek one) are from bored Pompey fans - ignore them. Pelle has all the attributes needed to be a top striker in the Premier League and Long will surprise a few people.
Plus he has an immaculate do.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oh when the saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]I think we could also consider Shane Long for this huge honour. He has plenty to do to live up to his £12million pound price tag. Perhaps it might be fairer to share it around a bit. I think Pelle for this coming game, Yoshida for the one after and then Long if he hasn' got at least four goals by then. And of course we shouldn't forget Les Reed. I' m certain he will be very put out to be missed off of this very prestigious list. And then again what about Katharina and Ralph. It is very good news indeed to see everybody at the club pulling in the same direction to try getting exclusive ownership of this award. They should have a word with Guly. He managed to keep it exclusively his for a good two or three seasons.[/p][/quote]I don't agree with the negative comments about pelle on here. He is a fantastic player who is still finding his way in the EPL. I do believe that he will bang plenty in![/p][/quote]The posts taking digs at certain players (bar the tongue in cheek one) are from bored Pompey fans - ignore them. Pelle has all the attributes needed to be a top striker in the Premier League and Long will surprise a few people.[/p][/quote]Plus he has an immaculate do. Tootingsaint
  • Score: 1

2:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

drkensta says...

what amazes me is that the comments about Pelle not being up to it are actually criticising Koeman, as he was the man who said he wanted Pelle. So if you do not think that Pelle is up to scratch then you are also saying that Koeman is not a suitable manager/coach. I think that the whole team is on a learning curve in adapting to Koeman's system of play and that until they have all grasped it there will be misunderstandings which will not give certain players their best opportunity to show their skills.
what amazes me is that the comments about Pelle not being up to it are actually criticising Koeman, as he was the man who said he wanted Pelle. So if you do not think that Pelle is up to scratch then you are also saying that Koeman is not a suitable manager/coach. I think that the whole team is on a learning curve in adapting to Koeman's system of play and that until they have all grasped it there will be misunderstandings which will not give certain players their best opportunity to show their skills. drkensta
  • Score: 4

2:30pm Fri 22 Aug 14

bathsaints says...

I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt?
I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt? bathsaints
  • Score: -1

2:35pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Scored raw says...

Quite agree, it took saints a couple of years to gather a greatl team. You cannot make a gReat team in two matches, JUST be a little bit patience.
Quite agree, it took saints a couple of years to gather a greatl team. You cannot make a gReat team in two matches, JUST be a little bit patience. Scored raw
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

just kidding says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Hey Little, read this for a little more perspective.

Quote from Premier League Owl :-

Last weekend, when Southampton visited Anfield, they used Graziano Pelle as a base-camp for a lot of their attacking play and they relied on him to perform more mundane tasks than he’s probably used to. His finishing never really came into question, because he spent the majority of the game with his back to goal, laying-off passes or competing aerially with Liverpool’s two centre-halves.

It shouldn’t go unmentioned that he did a very good job and, alongside Dusan Tadic, Steven Davis, and James Ward-Prowse, he was a key factor in Southampton establishing some attacking momentum against a very strong opponent. Pelle’s debut, although fruitless in the goal department, should be considered a success.

As the graphic below (from Squawka) shows, the vast majority of Pelle’s touches occurred in deep areas and, if you factor in the graphic beneath that, a lot of those were in fact aerial contests:


http://thepremierlea
gueowl.com/player-to
-watch-this-weekend-
southamptons-grazian
o-pelle/
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Hey Little, read this for a little more perspective. Quote from Premier League Owl :- Last weekend, when Southampton visited Anfield, they used Graziano Pelle as a base-camp for a lot of their attacking play and they relied on him to perform more mundane tasks than he’s probably used to. His finishing never really came into question, because he spent the majority of the game with his back to goal, laying-off passes or competing aerially with Liverpool’s two centre-halves. It shouldn’t go unmentioned that he did a very good job and, alongside Dusan Tadic, Steven Davis, and James Ward-Prowse, he was a key factor in Southampton establishing some attacking momentum against a very strong opponent. Pelle’s debut, although fruitless in the goal department, should be considered a success. As the graphic below (from Squawka) shows, the vast majority of Pelle’s touches occurred in deep areas and, if you factor in the graphic beneath that, a lot of those were in fact aerial contests: http://thepremierlea gueowl.com/player-to -watch-this-weekend- southamptons-grazian o-pelle/ just kidding
  • Score: 7

3:47pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

just kidding wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Hey Little, read this for a little more perspective.

Quote from Premier League Owl :-

Last weekend, when Southampton visited Anfield, they used Graziano Pelle as a base-camp for a lot of their attacking play and they relied on him to perform more mundane tasks than he’s probably used to. His finishing never really came into question, because he spent the majority of the game with his back to goal, laying-off passes or competing aerially with Liverpool’s two centre-halves.

It shouldn’t go unmentioned that he did a very good job and, alongside Dusan Tadic, Steven Davis, and James Ward-Prowse, he was a key factor in Southampton establishing some attacking momentum against a very strong opponent. Pelle’s debut, although fruitless in the goal department, should be considered a success.

As the graphic below (from Squawka) shows, the vast majority of Pelle’s touches occurred in deep areas and, if you factor in the graphic beneath that, a lot of those were in fact aerial contests:


http://thepremierlea

gueowl.com/player-to

-watch-this-weekend-

southamptons-grazian

o-pelle/
Ah, facts! Ruined a lot of great opinions, they have. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us.
[quote][p][bold]just kidding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Hey Little, read this for a little more perspective. Quote from Premier League Owl :- Last weekend, when Southampton visited Anfield, they used Graziano Pelle as a base-camp for a lot of their attacking play and they relied on him to perform more mundane tasks than he’s probably used to. His finishing never really came into question, because he spent the majority of the game with his back to goal, laying-off passes or competing aerially with Liverpool’s two centre-halves. It shouldn’t go unmentioned that he did a very good job and, alongside Dusan Tadic, Steven Davis, and James Ward-Prowse, he was a key factor in Southampton establishing some attacking momentum against a very strong opponent. Pelle’s debut, although fruitless in the goal department, should be considered a success. As the graphic below (from Squawka) shows, the vast majority of Pelle’s touches occurred in deep areas and, if you factor in the graphic beneath that, a lot of those were in fact aerial contests: http://thepremierlea gueowl.com/player-to -watch-this-weekend- southamptons-grazian o-pelle/[/p][/quote]Ah, facts! Ruined a lot of great opinions, they have. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us. Rising_Son
  • Score: 10

7:08pm Fri 22 Aug 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Pelle has come from a different league so he will need time to adapt. It isn't always easy for forwards coming from the Dutch league and hitting the goal trail straight away in the Premier league. He has a great finish so I'm sure he will do the business. Long is also capable whilst not being prolific. I would have liked us to sign Redmond as he can play up front or wide and has pace. We could do with a really pacy player to bring on. Isgrove will get better but we can't rely on him against the big boys just yet.
Pelle has come from a different league so he will need time to adapt. It isn't always easy for forwards coming from the Dutch league and hitting the goal trail straight away in the Premier league. He has a great finish so I'm sure he will do the business. Long is also capable whilst not being prolific. I would have liked us to sign Redmond as he can play up front or wide and has pace. We could do with a really pacy player to bring on. Isgrove will get better but we can't rely on him against the big boys just yet. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 3

8:09pm Fri 22 Aug 14

AdamG10 says...

I really hope to see Gardos start tomorrow. On another note, I saw Souds play AEL Limassol here in Cyprus last night. They were absolutely shocking!! Very very fortunate to beat a mediocre Cypriot team. As for Townsend you shouldn't really judge a player on one performance but, he was simply awful last night. Couldn't beat his man for toffee, constantly lost the ball and ended up being subbed for Lamela. I really hope we aren't in for him. I rather enjoyed seeing Poch on the touch line going nuts at the players. Spuds fans moaning about him already. Still three points tomorrow please Saints.
I really hope to see Gardos start tomorrow. On another note, I saw Souds play AEL Limassol here in Cyprus last night. They were absolutely shocking!! Very very fortunate to beat a mediocre Cypriot team. As for Townsend you shouldn't really judge a player on one performance but, he was simply awful last night. Couldn't beat his man for toffee, constantly lost the ball and ended up being subbed for Lamela. I really hope we aren't in for him. I rather enjoyed seeing Poch on the touch line going nuts at the players. Spuds fans moaning about him already. Still three points tomorrow please Saints. AdamG10
  • Score: 4

8:41pm Fri 22 Aug 14

dadofmy3sons says...

bathsaints wrote:
I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt?
I am not sure if you meant paid or played .
Both apply
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt?[/p][/quote]I am not sure if you meant paid or played . Both apply dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 2

10:11pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt?
I am not sure if you meant paid or played .
Both apply
Yeah, I spotted that. I quite like the idea that Welbeck gets PAID out of position - maybe in the £50,000 a week bracket instead of the £50 a week bracket.

As for Gardos, if the club physios think he's ready, I guess he's ready. However, regardless of his fitness, from a 'settling in' perspective, I'd rather he wasn't rushed. I would like to see him given a view from the bench first and, in the process, Yoshida being shown that Ron has faith in his ability.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see Manure are keen to offload Welbeck but not to any of the top 6. I don't rate him hugely but also realise he often gets paid out of position...worth a punt?[/p][/quote]I am not sure if you meant paid or played . Both apply[/p][/quote]Yeah, I spotted that. I quite like the idea that Welbeck gets PAID out of position - maybe in the £50,000 a week bracket instead of the £50 a week bracket. As for Gardos, if the club physios think he's ready, I guess he's ready. However, regardless of his fitness, from a 'settling in' perspective, I'd rather he wasn't rushed. I would like to see him given a view from the bench first and, in the process, Yoshida being shown that Ron has faith in his ability. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

10:35pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Jesus_02 says...

Jon Forte wrote:
In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...
He doesnt have Gully's skill. Big bloke though. Forster has a REALLY long kick too. Put together we may have the solution to all that tippy tappy nonsense we had last year.
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: In Pelle I fear with have our new Guly...[/p][/quote]He doesnt have Gully's skill. Big bloke though. Forster has a REALLY long kick too. Put together we may have the solution to all that tippy tappy nonsense we had last year. Jesus_02
  • Score: 1

4:06am Sat 23 Aug 14

7saint7 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Well personally I think that yoshi and fonte did more than enough on Sunday, odd slip up but show me a defence or defender that doesn't make mistakes. I do think yoshi is underrated by some, he is a a very capable player and a more than adequate back up. I trust the opinion of ronnie, who really should know enough about his position to know if a player is good enough or not, when it comes to bringing in new players. If Ronnie is happy with our CB's then I guess I am.
Cant believe people are writing off pelle already, one game against liverhampton and people are already calling for replacements!
Eto'o is past it and would want around £100k a week minimum, and still wouldn't sign for us. He was on £7mill a year at chelski and took a £13mill drop to go there, I don't think he would add enough to the team to justify paying so much in wages.
I agree Think Yoshida is a good cb & is a good back up for the team.
Also pelle is new to pl . Some players take time to gel in . Think he will be a good striker for us over the season.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: Well personally I think that yoshi and fonte did more than enough on Sunday, odd slip up but show me a defence or defender that doesn't make mistakes. I do think yoshi is underrated by some, he is a a very capable player and a more than adequate back up. I trust the opinion of ronnie, who really should know enough about his position to know if a player is good enough or not, when it comes to bringing in new players. If Ronnie is happy with our CB's then I guess I am. Cant believe people are writing off pelle already, one game against liverhampton and people are already calling for replacements! Eto'o is past it and would want around £100k a week minimum, and still wouldn't sign for us. He was on £7mill a year at chelski and took a £13mill drop to go there, I don't think he would add enough to the team to justify paying so much in wages.[/p][/quote]I agree Think Yoshida is a good cb & is a good back up for the team. Also pelle is new to pl . Some players take time to gel in . Think he will be a good striker for us over the season. 7saint7
  • Score: 1

9:59am Sat 23 Aug 14

Blind Faith Believer says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.
Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.
Give him time to adjust to the demands of the Premier League. Van Wolfswinkel scored in norwich's first game last season and then didn't score again - I would rather Pelle adjust fully rather think it will be easy. We will be short of goals for a few weeks though.....
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: With Gardos in the team, all we then need is a new top forward and winger (not Townsend, hopefully). Pelle was the worst player on the pitch against our parent club. We desperately need a proper centre-forward who can score goals at this level.[/p][/quote]Do not judge a player on one performance and have faith in our manager. Pelle needs game time and will improve with each run out. You'll be eating your words quite soon. Pelle for 20+ goals this season.[/p][/quote]Give him time to adjust to the demands of the Premier League. Van Wolfswinkel scored in norwich's first game last season and then didn't score again - I would rather Pelle adjust fully rather think it will be easy. We will be short of goals for a few weeks though..... Blind Faith Believer
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