Southampton manager Ronald Koeman said his team did not play with enough tempo in their 0-0 draw with West Bromwich Albion at St Mary's

Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman

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Saints manager Ronald Koeman said his side did not play with enough tempo to trouble West Brom during today’s goalless draw.

Neither team was able to create much during a fairly drab afternoon at St Mary’s, with Koeman frustrated his men were not a bit more upbeat.

The Saints boss added that, despite having lost 2-1 at Liverpool last week, he was almost more disappointed after this latest game.

“The result was better than last week, but the feeling was different, and that’s strange in football,” he said.

“We deserved last week much more than we finally got in the result, but today it was difficult.

“We didn’t have the tempo to create more. I think we played against a West Bromwich team who played with good organisation, very compact, physically strong in defence.

“Then you need high quality in your last passing, your last cross, and we didn’t have that today. It was difficult.

“Maybe in the beginning (we played) too slowly. Not the real high tempo to surprise them in attacking and it was very difficult.

“The same in the second half, it was a difficult one.”

Koeman added: “In building up we would like to have more tempo.

“Sometimes it’s too slowly and that gives the opponents more time to have the good organisation. If you play the first ball back then they have time enough to have good organisation.

“If you play the first ball forward then you have space and we have to do that better than we did today.”

Koeman also praised the commanding performance of keeper Fraser Forster, who made a superb late one-on-one save to deny West Brom striker Brown Ideye what would surely have been a winning goal.

“The big chance they created, he saved that fantastically,” he said.

“It was a difficult one last week. He didn’t have a lot of work to do as a goalkeeper.

“Today not, but in the one or two moments, in the crosses, he was very good.

“He’s a tall one, he’s a good goalkeeper. He’s a goalkeeper for the future and he showed his qualities today.”

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6:14pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Velleity says...

Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes?

I must say that I like the cut of his jib.
Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes? I must say that I like the cut of his jib. Velleity
  • Score: 97

6:40pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Rooflas says...

Velleity wrote:
Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes?

I must say that I like the cut of his jib.
Did anything fall on your head?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes? I must say that I like the cut of his jib.[/p][/quote]Did anything fall on your head? Rooflas
  • Score: -45

6:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Roman Centurion says...

It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert! Roman Centurion
  • Score: 39

6:43pm Sat 23 Aug 14

warrens 76 says...

Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil…

Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it…

What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.
Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil… Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it… What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy. warrens 76
  • Score: 19

6:55pm Sat 23 Aug 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Work in PROGRESS , but could GEL very soon C O Y R
Work in PROGRESS , but could GEL very soon C O Y R SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 21

7:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Epsom Saint says...

Very disappointing - we passed backwards to much and didn't look comfortable in possession. But at least Koeman has been honest about it, and the team will know what to work on.
Very disappointing - we passed backwards to much and didn't look comfortable in possession. But at least Koeman has been honest about it, and the team will know what to work on. Epsom Saint
  • Score: 49

7:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

donni1437 says...

Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go?

We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come
[quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go? We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come donni1437
  • Score: 33

7:19pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i
f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....
very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS! J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

7:22pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

donni1437 wrote:
Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go?

We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come
One of the first things Koeman said after he arrived was "Goals means points".
Difficult to see where they are coming from at the moment..will the return of J Rod make the difference?
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go? We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come[/p][/quote]One of the first things Koeman said after he arrived was "Goals means points". Difficult to see where they are coming from at the moment..will the return of J Rod make the difference? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 30

7:23pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Southampton boy says...

We need the team to gel, we need to be stronger on are tackles and make are passing count.

We good once SL come on it looked like we were playing one up front this is not good at home, WBA had nothing thankfully other wise we could have been looking at another lose! Keeper looked good did not have slot to do but what he did was good.

Still think once we gel we could make top ten
We need the team to gel, we need to be stronger on are tackles and make are passing count. We good once SL come on it looked like we were playing one up front this is not good at home, WBA had nothing thankfully other wise we could have been looking at another lose! Keeper looked good did not have slot to do but what he did was good. Still think once we gel we could make top ten Southampton boy
  • Score: 12

7:26pm Sat 23 Aug 14

scorpioeyes says...

tempo is something we definitely didnt lack last season.
absolute rubbish today and I see a very long hard season ahead.
tempo is something we definitely didnt lack last season. absolute rubbish today and I see a very long hard season ahead. scorpioeyes
  • Score: 21

7:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

scorpioeyes wrote:
tempo is something we definitely didnt lack last season.
absolute rubbish today and I see a very long hard season ahead.
So do I........toothless to say the least.
Need better players, not time we haven't got to "gel" sh1t ones FFS!
[quote][p][bold]scorpioeyes[/bold] wrote: tempo is something we definitely didnt lack last season. absolute rubbish today and I see a very long hard season ahead.[/p][/quote]So do I........toothless to say the least. Need better players, not time we haven't got to "gel" sh1t ones FFS! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 10

7:37pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Billy Bowl says...

Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team.
Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet.
Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team. Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet. Billy Bowl
  • Score: 27

7:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Invidia says...

I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today. Invidia
  • Score: 42

7:43pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Berkshire Saint says...

It sounded dreadful today but then there were a few stinkers last year too. With the start we've got I really hope we pick up plenty of points because I get the feeling there are plenty of people queuing up to say 'I told you so' to the board if we find ourselves in the bottom 5 at the end of Sept.
It sounded dreadful today but then there were a few stinkers last year too. With the start we've got I really hope we pick up plenty of points because I get the feeling there are plenty of people queuing up to say 'I told you so' to the board if we find ourselves in the bottom 5 at the end of Sept. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 15

7:45pm Sat 23 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

More Tempo - Slow from Keepers distribution to moving the ball. Must do a LOT BETTER. We can give the Team 10 games to settle - but then we hit the 10 difficult games.

THIS TEAM must hit the ground running NOW and RON must sort it as soon as he can.
More Tempo - Slow from Keepers distribution to moving the ball. Must do a LOT BETTER. We can give the Team 10 games to settle - but then we hit the 10 difficult games. THIS TEAM must hit the ground running NOW and RON must sort it as soon as he can. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 18

7:57pm Sat 23 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon, InCortesewetrust
  • Score: -9

8:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Berkshire Saint says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us. Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 39

8:10pm Sat 23 Aug 14

saintlysoul says...

Invidia wrote:
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
F
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.[/p][/quote]F saintlysoul
  • Score: -11

8:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

I don't think anyone played well I don'think anyone was really bad but as a team there was just nothing Absolutely flat atmosphere and that includes us
I don't think anyone played well I don'think anyone was really bad but as a team there was just nothing Absolutely flat atmosphere and that includes us Saintsayer II
  • Score: 19

8:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
It sounded dreadful today but then there were a few stinkers last year too. With the start we've got I really hope we pick up plenty of points because I get the feeling there are plenty of people queuing up to say 'I told you so' to the board if we find ourselves in the bottom 5 at the end of Sept.
Not one of our better days at the office. Wish I'd stayed in the pub. We're bound to have them from time to time though. Another couple of players coming in apparently.
We need 3 a good striker, another CB and a winger - don't care if they are loans or buys but we do need more. Rambros don't agree on the CB - does this mean they rate Stephens as ready to fill in? Hope so the money saved can be put to good use in the Jan sales if need be.
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: It sounded dreadful today but then there were a few stinkers last year too. With the start we've got I really hope we pick up plenty of points because I get the feeling there are plenty of people queuing up to say 'I told you so' to the board if we find ourselves in the bottom 5 at the end of Sept.[/p][/quote]Not one of our better days at the office. Wish I'd stayed in the pub. We're bound to have them from time to time though. Another couple of players coming in apparently. We need 3 a good striker, another CB and a winger - don't care if they are loans or buys but we do need more. Rambros don't agree on the CB - does this mean they rate Stephens as ready to fill in? Hope so the money saved can be put to good use in the Jan sales if need be. jls217
  • Score: 12

8:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

InCortesewetrust says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
The transition from the Dutch league to the premier isn't always as easy as gnashers showed, Sunderlands altidore was prolific in Holland 67 games 39 goals, Come to England score's 1 goal in 31+ game's, pelle looks awful, he is not good enough to lace Lamberts boots,
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]The transition from the Dutch league to the premier isn't always as easy as gnashers showed, Sunderlands altidore was prolific in Holland 67 games 39 goals, Come to England score's 1 goal in 31+ game's, pelle looks awful, he is not good enough to lace Lamberts boots, InCortesewetrust
  • Score: -16

8:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
Said the same at the game today. Last week he was up against Lovren and Skrtel who are decent players so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Today he was up against West Brom bloke and West Brom bloke and was made to look even worse.
Anyone who's played football or knows a bit about it can easily spot a sh!t player when they see one.......and f@ck me he fits the bill!
£8m down the pan.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]Said the same at the game today. Last week he was up against Lovren and Skrtel who are decent players so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Today he was up against West Brom bloke and West Brom bloke and was made to look even worse. Anyone who's played football or knows a bit about it can easily spot a sh!t player when they see one.......and f@ck me he fits the bill! £8m down the pan. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -10

8:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

RealTalkSouthampton says...

So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works! RealTalkSouthampton
  • Score: 40

8:15pm Sat 23 Aug 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Dutch managers just don't work in the prem.
we have been here before that was utter crap today. If you can't beat west brom at home then it's game over.
How the f@uck did those skate b@stards win again.... Not happy
Dutch managers just don't work in the prem. we have been here before that was utter crap today. If you can't beat west brom at home then it's game over. How the f@uck did those skate b@stards win again.... Not happy u bunch of mugs
  • Score: -36

8:16pm Sat 23 Aug 14

saintlysoul says...

Invidia wrote:
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
I agree with your comments. The irony though is that JWP probably created Saints best chance of scoring with a trade mark free kick. What frustrated me today was this long ball game we are playing. When that tactic is adopted midfield is by-passed and must be very frustrating for them. On numerous occasions this afternoon JWP moved into space and was asking for the ball but wasn't given it. The times he was passed to he was marked and closed down too easily. I agree with the posts that suggest it is early days with a new team having to gel and that what we desperately need is an out and out goal scorer.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comments. The irony though is that JWP probably created Saints best chance of scoring with a trade mark free kick. What frustrated me today was this long ball game we are playing. When that tactic is adopted midfield is by-passed and must be very frustrating for them. On numerous occasions this afternoon JWP moved into space and was asking for the ball but wasn't given it. The times he was passed to he was marked and closed down too easily. I agree with the posts that suggest it is early days with a new team having to gel and that what we desperately need is an out and out goal scorer. saintlysoul
  • Score: 13

8:20pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 23

8:20pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly. Chapperall
  • Score: -4

8:25pm Sat 23 Aug 14

This is Southampton and we are the Saints says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
donni1437 wrote:
Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go?

We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come
One of the first things Koeman said after he arrived was "Goals means points".
Difficult to see where they are coming from at the moment..will the return of J Rod make the difference?
Spot on goals win football matches end of chat?
Pelle didn't look like scoring if he kept playing all week looks out of his depth in both games?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]It's sad he would rather sit on the bench for the club that let him go as a kid!! Jury still out on pelle, I wonder when long will get a go? We need a serious injection of pace in our attack. Hopefully more players to come[/p][/quote]One of the first things Koeman said after he arrived was "Goals means points". Difficult to see where they are coming from at the moment..will the return of J Rod make the difference?[/p][/quote]Spot on goals win football matches end of chat? Pelle didn't look like scoring if he kept playing all week looks out of his depth in both games? This is Southampton and we are the Saints
  • Score: 3

8:28pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way.
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -5

8:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

one in the crowd says...

The time is running out ( before the transfer window closes ), for Saints to fix the deficiencies still noticeable in the team. The board need to put their hands in their pockets and buy in one or two top players ( not loan players ).

If they don't, I can see Saints struggling later on in the season and will be unable to regain momentum.
The time is running out ( before the transfer window closes ), for Saints to fix the deficiencies still noticeable in the team. The board need to put their hands in their pockets and buy in one or two top players ( not loan players ). If they don't, I can see Saints struggling later on in the season and will be unable to regain momentum. one in the crowd
  • Score: 7

8:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time. westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: 34

8:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

one in the crowd wrote:
The time is running out ( before the transfer window closes ), for Saints to fix the deficiencies still noticeable in the team. The board need to put their hands in their pockets and buy in one or two top players ( not loan players ).

If they don't, I can see Saints struggling later on in the season and will be unable to regain momentum.
I can see you still being a pr1ck later on in the season and for many seasons after......pr1ck
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: The time is running out ( before the transfer window closes ), for Saints to fix the deficiencies still noticeable in the team. The board need to put their hands in their pockets and buy in one or two top players ( not loan players ). If they don't, I can see Saints struggling later on in the season and will be unable to regain momentum.[/p][/quote]I can see you still being a pr1ck later on in the season and for many seasons after......pr1ck J7junctionseven
  • Score: 6

8:42pm Sat 23 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
He's sh1t mate....Open your eyes FFS!
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]He's sh1t mate....Open your eyes FFS! J7junctionseven
  • Score: -16

8:50pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Clever Dick says...

Billy Bowl wrote:
Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team.
Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet.
Did you go to the game last season? A very similar and also sh1t West Brom came to park the bus and time waste. One moment of quality from AL turned the game otherwise it would have been a boring 0-0 just like today. This performance was pretty poor but we have to remember that our goals last year came from AL,SRL and Jay. We appear to be lacking any goalscoring quality from the new players so far so they need to up the effort. Pelle is huge and not very mobile so he needs to use his size and strength to give central defenders a hard time. He allowed that cheating ,moaning Olsson to bul!y him and he won virtually nothing in the air, especially first half.
[quote][p][bold]Billy Bowl[/bold] wrote: Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team. Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet.[/p][/quote]Did you go to the game last season? A very similar and also sh1t West Brom came to park the bus and time waste. One moment of quality from AL turned the game otherwise it would have been a boring 0-0 just like today. This performance was pretty poor but we have to remember that our goals last year came from AL,SRL and Jay. We appear to be lacking any goalscoring quality from the new players so far so they need to up the effort. Pelle is huge and not very mobile so he needs to use his size and strength to give central defenders a hard time. He allowed that cheating ,moaning Olsson to bul!y him and he won virtually nothing in the air, especially first half. Clever Dick
  • Score: 12

8:51pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
Were you at the match today? I doubt it!
Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those.
I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]Were you at the match today? I doubt it! Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those. I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance. Chapperall
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Wally888a says...

If you want a quick tempo play corky
If you want a quick tempo play corky Wally888a
  • Score: 14

8:54pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Invidia wrote:
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne.
JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne. JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures. COYR07
  • Score: 15

8:56pm Sat 23 Aug 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
Were you at the match today? I doubt it!
Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those.
I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.
No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]Were you at the match today? I doubt it! Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those. I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.[/p][/quote]No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home. westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: 16

8:58pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
Well said
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]Well said fascia123
  • Score: 9

9:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

fascia123 wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
Well said
Agree !!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]Well said[/p][/quote]Agree !! COYR07
  • Score: 8

9:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
Well said
Agreed. @fascia, changed my mind.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]Well said[/p][/quote]Agreed. @fascia, changed my mind. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

9:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-) fascia123
  • Score: 7

9:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Like every supporter on here, I desired a win, but upon reflection am glad everyone isn't crying about a loss to WBA. For whatever reason it is a shame that Pelle couldn't produce the goods. While I haven't seen the game yet by the sounds of things he wasn't the only one who had an ordinary game. Like some other teams we have to accept that we are in the unenviable position of having replaced a lot of players. It may take time for some form to come but I am faithful it will. I hope the supporters on here that go to the games will be doing what I can't,to give the boys the continual support they need to get through this transition. On ya.
Like every supporter on here, I desired a win, but upon reflection am glad everyone isn't crying about a loss to WBA. For whatever reason it is a shame that Pelle couldn't produce the goods. While I haven't seen the game yet by the sounds of things he wasn't the only one who had an ordinary game. Like some other teams we have to accept that we are in the unenviable position of having replaced a lot of players. It may take time for some form to come but I am faithful it will. I hope the supporters on here that go to the games will be doing what I can't,to give the boys the continual support they need to get through this transition. On ya. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 15

9:03pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Invidia says...

J7junctionseven.

I believe I read somewhere that you played at one time surely you played to orders by the manager which at times were not suited to your game but you played and played badly, I also believe that spectators suggested you were sh1t as well, all I am saying is that the manager, more than the team was at fault today. Having said that if the team did not play to the managers instructions then they need a real boll.cking.
J7junctionseven. I believe I read somewhere that you played at one time surely you played to orders by the manager which at times were not suited to your game but you played and played badly, I also believe that spectators suggested you were sh1t as well, all I am saying is that the manager, more than the team was at fault today. Having said that if the team did not play to the managers instructions then they need a real boll.cking. Invidia
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder? Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO. COYR07
  • Score: 2

9:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

COYR07 wrote:
Invidia wrote:
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne.
JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures.
Going by the clips on U Tube, he seems to be a high intensity midfielder who has a penchant for both attack and defense. I was surprised myself that he wasn't introduced in the Liverpool game and probably more so for the WBA game to be honest. I have a feeling he will be a good player for us.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne. JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures.[/p][/quote]Going by the clips on U Tube, he seems to be a high intensity midfielder who has a penchant for both attack and defense. I was surprised myself that he wasn't introduced in the Liverpool game and probably more so for the WBA game to be honest. I have a feeling he will be a good player for us. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them. fascia123
  • Score: 12

9:22pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.[/p][/quote]Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them? fascia123
  • Score: 1

9:24pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Invidia wrote:
I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.
I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne.
JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures.
Going by the clips on U Tube, he seems to be a high intensity midfielder who has a penchant for both attack and defense. I was surprised myself that he wasn't introduced in the Liverpool game and probably more so for the WBA game to be honest. I have a feeling he will be a good player for us.
At least we still have more options to come.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say, I am neither a neggie? or a happy clapper, but we lost 2 points today and as much as I love the lad I felt that JWP had a very poor game today and it rubbed of on the rest of the team. I will not comment on Pelle as I feel he is not getting the correct service he needs, every goal scorer needs time to get their confidence going even Dracular Suarez had an average first season at Anfield and the list is endless of players which required time. The only other point I would like to make is WBA are a better team than people give them credit for, how many times last year did opposing team managers say we had an off day today and did not play well against Saints instead of acknowledging that we were a very good team, so be kind and give the Baggies a well done because they did a job on us today.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more with this comment. I was embarrassed today and not because of the performance but because of the vile abuse from some of our 'great' fans to Pelle after 25mins of his home debut. He didn't have a good game and neither did majority of team bar Tadic, Fonte, Forster and Bertrand however you can't abuse him for not winning every long punt put up to him. He had no support up front and then support like that from our 'fans' which is embarrassing. Tactics didn't feel right and there is a definite need for a right winger to play in front of Clyne. JWP in free role behind Pelle really? Not saying he is not a good player or one for future but today touched ball 4 times maybe. Was surprised Taider didn't come on for him instead of Cork? Maybe chance for Ramirez when he gets fit to finally show us that he could be the man following all departures.[/p][/quote]Going by the clips on U Tube, he seems to be a high intensity midfielder who has a penchant for both attack and defense. I was surprised myself that he wasn't introduced in the Liverpool game and probably more so for the WBA game to be honest. I have a feeling he will be a good player for us.[/p][/quote]At least we still have more options to come. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Wally888a says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
But he speeds things up a lot more in the middle of the park
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.[/p][/quote]But he speeds things up a lot more in the middle of the park Wally888a
  • Score: 3

9:25pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?
haha for sure mate, exactly!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.[/p][/quote]Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?[/p][/quote]haha for sure mate, exactly! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

9:27pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I agree SD & JWP didn't perform well. I also agree VW and MS played well in front of defence. I am not sure if it's tactics yet or whether RK doesn't have a full XI that he wants.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I agree SD & JWP didn't perform well. I also agree VW and MS played well in front of defence. I am not sure if it's tactics yet or whether RK doesn't have a full XI that he wants. COYR07
  • Score: 2

9:29pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?
haha for sure mate, exactly!
Maybe RoKo has been reading these threads and thinks, sh1t, I better not lose or I'll be torn apart!!!! :o)
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.[/p][/quote]Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?[/p][/quote]haha for sure mate, exactly![/p][/quote]Maybe RoKo has been reading these threads and thinks, sh1t, I better not lose or I'll be torn apart!!!! :o) Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Sat 23 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I said it at half time that it's the midfield were not pressing enough. If the manager told me he wanted me to up the tempo of my game, it would not take a second talking to for me to understand what he meant. Then if you give me thousands of dollars each week as an incentive, i would run run my tale off until I dropped. It would be plain for all to see how I was pressing!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I said it at half time that it's the midfield were not pressing enough. If the manager told me he wanted me to up the tempo of my game, it would not take a second talking to for me to understand what he meant. Then if you give me thousands of dollars each week as an incentive, i would run run my tale off until I dropped. It would be plain for all to see how I was pressing! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 3

9:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:36pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

COYR07 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I agree SD & JWP didn't perform well. I also agree VW and MS played well in front of defence. I am not sure if it's tactics yet or whether RK doesn't have a full XI that he wants.
Look good from keeper to half way line, it's after that we need to improve and I am sure we will, your last point is almost certainly right he can't play exactly as he would like because he doesn't quite have the full deck yet.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I agree SD & JWP didn't perform well. I also agree VW and MS played well in front of defence. I am not sure if it's tactics yet or whether RK doesn't have a full XI that he wants.[/p][/quote]Look good from keeper to half way line, it's after that we need to improve and I am sure we will, your last point is almost certainly right he can't play exactly as he would like because he doesn't quite have the full deck yet. fascia123
  • Score: -1

9:36pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
Right, couldn't agree more.

Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense.

Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo.

I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic.

Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back.

I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis.

But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]Right, couldn't agree more. Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense. Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo. I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic. Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back. I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis. But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.
Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.
Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?
haha for sure mate, exactly!
Always the best policy, if you can't win, don't lose.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]He can player either attacking or defensive midfield. He should have come on for JWP IMO.[/p][/quote]Thought the same, love Corky but he's no match winner.[/p][/quote]Do you guys get the impression that it perhaps is more important not to lose matches than it maybe to win them?[/p][/quote]haha for sure mate, exactly![/p][/quote]Always the best policy, if you can't win, don't lose. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Lots of consensus on here tonight - appears we all watched the same game!
Lots of consensus on here tonight - appears we all watched the same game! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

9:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up? fascia123
  • Score: 2

9:43pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Spyder, Taider, Vic, with Ramirez, Cork and Davis as subs.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Spyder, Taider, Vic, with Ramirez, Cork and Davis as subs. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: -1

9:43pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod? Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -5

9:44pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
I think Cork always does well but there is a reason he never cements a starting place in an XI under both previous and new manager. If we played all 3 as you mention above we would still not look like scoring goals. With the 4-2-3-1 formation the holding 2 will always be MS & VW. For me it's then a decision of the next 3. Tadic + 2.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]I think Cork always does well but there is a reason he never cements a starting place in an XI under both previous and new manager. If we played all 3 as you mention above we would still not look like scoring goals. With the 4-2-3-1 formation the holding 2 will always be MS & VW. For me it's then a decision of the next 3. Tadic + 2. COYR07
  • Score: 4

9:44pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

COYR07 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
I think Cork always does well but there is a reason he never cements a starting place in an XI under both previous and new manager. If we played all 3 as you mention above we would still not look like scoring goals. With the 4-2-3-1 formation the holding 2 will always be MS & VW. For me it's then a decision of the next 3. Tadic + 2.
Ha, you read my mind!
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]I think Cork always does well but there is a reason he never cements a starting place in an XI under both previous and new manager. If we played all 3 as you mention above we would still not look like scoring goals. With the 4-2-3-1 formation the holding 2 will always be MS & VW. For me it's then a decision of the next 3. Tadic + 2.[/p][/quote]Ha, you read my mind! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 0

9:46pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?[/p][/quote]Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO. COYR07
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Sat 23 Aug 14

peregrine73 says...

Already early on in the season its clear that with all the pre season upheavel it will take time to gel as a team. However we must pick up Max points from seemingly easier home games as later we have a tough set of games. The striker situation remains a priority, jay rod may well depart when fit,we have to start scoring to gain the points ,the next few games will clarify our real situation, let's hope its not a struggling one!.
Already early on in the season its clear that with all the pre season upheavel it will take time to gel as a team. However we must pick up Max points from seemingly easier home games as later we have a tough set of games. The striker situation remains a priority, jay rod may well depart when fit,we have to start scoring to gain the points ,the next few games will clarify our real situation, let's hope its not a struggling one!. peregrine73
  • Score: 3

9:47pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.
Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?[/p][/quote]Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.[/p][/quote]Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI. COYR07
  • Score: 0

9:50pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
Right, couldn't agree more.

Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense.

Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo.

I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic.

Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back.

I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis.

But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!!
Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other?

Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog??
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]Right, couldn't agree more. Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense. Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo. I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic. Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back. I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis. But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!![/p][/quote]Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other? Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog?? fascia123
  • Score: 0

9:51pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Wally888a says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
I agree at least we kept a clean sheet WBA did beat Manu at old Trafford last season something we didn't do and everything was sweet after the liverhampton game what's happened
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]I agree at least we kept a clean sheet WBA did beat Manu at old Trafford last season something we didn't do and everything was sweet after the liverhampton game what's happened Wally888a
  • Score: 3

9:53pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
Right, couldn't agree more.

Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense.

Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo.

I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic.

Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back.

I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis.

But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!!
Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other?

Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog??
Totally!!! I thought for a moment you had suggested playing Tadic on both flanks until I read back and saw Ta-ider - if Roko could pull that off it would be immense!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]Right, couldn't agree more. Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense. Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo. I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic. Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back. I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis. But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!![/p][/quote]Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other? Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog??[/p][/quote]Totally!!! I thought for a moment you had suggested playing Tadic on both flanks until I read back and saw Ta-ider - if Roko could pull that off it would be immense!!!!! Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -1

9:54pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

COYR07 wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.
Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.
Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?[/p][/quote]Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.[/p][/quote]Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.[/p][/quote]Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: -2

9:58pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
Right, couldn't agree more.

Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense.

Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo.

I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic.

Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back.

I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis.

But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!!
Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other?

Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog??
Totally!!! I thought for a moment you had suggested playing Tadic on both flanks until I read back and saw Ta-ider - if Roko could pull that off it would be immense!!!!!
By all accounts Taider is a centre midfield player but it's a gamble that might pay off.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]Right, couldn't agree more. Defence looked excellent but they had far to much to do because we wer always a yard short in the second and final third, which then led to silly free-kicks which put pressure on the back four. Yoshida big + points today. Forster was immense. Spyder and Wanyama excellent but 10 yards to deep, like the rest of the team imo. I thought Clyne was more reserved and in pre-season he linked up much better with Tadic. Pelle not playing his natural game but will need to sharpen up quickly to keep boo boys off his back. I totally agree with Davis and JWP although I thought JWP was better. Davis was anonymous today. They are be asked to play 4-3-3 and they didn't really seem to know whether play narrow or wide. It's definitely affecting Davis. But I do think it's just tweaks - an exciting wide player to push full-backs onto back foot and get in behind and J-Rod back. Play ten yards further up and be sharper to the ball we'll be all good. That's just my opinions!![/p][/quote]Each of our full backs looks better when Tadic plays in front of them, could we not play Tadic one side and Taider the other? Agree we are a bit defensive at the moment, early days, lots of changes, With all the sh!t that has been chucked at the club maybe as said it is more important not to lose, or is. Ronko running scared after logging on to this blog??[/p][/quote]Totally!!! I thought for a moment you had suggested playing Tadic on both flanks until I read back and saw Ta-ider - if Roko could pull that off it would be immense!!!!![/p][/quote]By all accounts Taider is a centre midfield player but it's a gamble that might pay off. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

10:03pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
I am not too sure, 4 - 3 - 3, but what front three combination could be best is a bit beyond me, I am not even a good table top manager!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]I am not too sure, 4 - 3 - 3, but what front three combination could be best is a bit beyond me, I am not even a good table top manager! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.
Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.
Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time.
While the atmosphere on here is good I think it's time to retire and pour myself a large malt, go outside and get some fresh air as I was advised to do yesterday.

Reflect on although not a perfect not such a bad day at the office and hope for perfection tomorrow.

Thank you for your entertaining and informative chat.

Up the saints.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?[/p][/quote]Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.[/p][/quote]Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.[/p][/quote]Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time.[/p][/quote]While the atmosphere on here is good I think it's time to retire and pour myself a large malt, go outside and get some fresh air as I was advised to do yesterday. Reflect on although not a perfect not such a bad day at the office and hope for perfection tomorrow. Thank you for your entertaining and informative chat. Up the saints. fascia123
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:08pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
COYR07 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.
You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)
Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?
Would like your opinion on this FB

Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well.

Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well.

Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward.

Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this.

As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc.

I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.
I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.
IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched.

I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?
Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?
Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.
Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.
Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time.
While the atmosphere on here is good I think it's time to retire and pour myself a large malt, go outside and get some fresh air as I was advised to do yesterday.

Reflect on although not a perfect not such a bad day at the office and hope for perfection tomorrow.

Thank you for your entertaining and informative chat.

Up the saints.
Up the Saints !!
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: Fact is I think Koeman has done a cracking job under really difficult circumstances. It wasn't great today but it wasn't tat awful against a hard working and organised team. I think we are J-rod and a creative midfielder short of a decent unit. Last year we put in some dreadful performances against average teams - Cardiff at home as one example. I've always thought we do better against teams which attack us more, as it allows us more space to be creative.[/p][/quote]You went to the same game I did then, reading most of this I thought I was at a different game :-)[/p][/quote]Yeah, admittedly I won't be re-running the highlights time and time again but I thought we just looked short in the final third. I'm worried about Taider though - the game was crying out for something different and he was over-looked? Is he attacking or holding midfielder?[/p][/quote]Would like your opinion on this FB Keeper and defence looked sound, probably one of the best games yoshida has had, Koeman influencing this area well. Two holding midfielders Spyder and Vic played really well. Tadic had a reasonable game, full backs looked good going forward. Pelle is being asked to do a job that if you run youtube he has never been asked to do, he is being asked to come and get the ball with his back to goal, he has always arrived in the box with balls coming in from the wings and scored lots of goals doing this. As the manager said we lacked tempo, but most of the sides in the premiership have been slow to start this year, Arsenal were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, man utd lost to Swansea etc etc. I know it's won't be popular but the two poorest players today were Ward Prowse and Davis, but we can't say a word against them.[/p][/quote]I wholly agree with you about JWP and SD today, they were too alike and in each others space in the First Half, one had to go to get the balance better, I thought Corky did well in the short time he was on, would prefer him to start with Vic and Spider in midfield.[/p][/quote]IMHO Vic has been our most important player in the last three games I have watched. I like cork a lot but how would you set midfield up?[/p][/quote]Go back to 4-2-3-1 with JWP, Tadic and Gaston when he returns behind J-Rod?[/p][/quote]Jay Rod, Tadic + ? (Someone from Gaston, JWP or new signing?) behind Pelle IMO.[/p][/quote]Also funny that none of us put Long in our starting XI.[/p][/quote]Yeah good shout with J-Rod in the three behind. Mmm, lets give Long time.[/p][/quote]While the atmosphere on here is good I think it's time to retire and pour myself a large malt, go outside and get some fresh air as I was advised to do yesterday. Reflect on although not a perfect not such a bad day at the office and hope for perfection tomorrow. Thank you for your entertaining and informative chat. Up the saints.[/p][/quote]Up the Saints !! COYR07
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible. Block 42
  • Score: -2

10:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
All comments on here by majority have been fact. Good, sensible football comments. I would never slate any of our players but I am not sure as I have said whether JWP would be in my first XI or in that very important role behind striker (not sure that's his best position).
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]All comments on here by majority have been fact. Good, sensible football comments. I would never slate any of our players but I am not sure as I have said whether JWP would be in my first XI or in that very important role behind striker (not sure that's his best position). COYR07
  • Score: 3

10:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
Apparently he is a good guitarist he plays with an Ian Dury tribute band.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]Apparently he is a good guitarist he plays with an Ian Dury tribute band. fascia123
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
Not all signings come off. There are numerous good examples (Tadic, Clyne, Bertrand etc.) I think all agree Pelle didn't have a great game but we did just punt it at him from the back. Maybe fans should support him a bit 180mins into his Saints career.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]Not all signings come off. There are numerous good examples (Tadic, Clyne, Bertrand etc.) I think all agree Pelle didn't have a great game but we did just punt it at him from the back. Maybe fans should support him a bit 180mins into his Saints career. COYR07
  • Score: 12

10:17pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

COYR07 wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
Not all signings come off. There are numerous good examples (Tadic, Clyne, Bertrand etc.) I think all agree Pelle didn't have a great game but we did just punt it at him from the back. Maybe fans should support him a bit 180mins into his Saints career.
Good shout
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]Not all signings come off. There are numerous good examples (Tadic, Clyne, Bertrand etc.) I think all agree Pelle didn't have a great game but we did just punt it at him from the back. Maybe fans should support him a bit 180mins into his Saints career.[/p][/quote]Good shout fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:21pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

COYR07 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
All comments on here by majority have been fact. Good, sensible football comments. I would never slate any of our players but I am not sure as I have said whether JWP would be in my first XI or in that very important role behind striker (not sure that's his best position).
COY you have posted some sh!t hot stuff tonight, have you read through some of the early posts, Osprey makes a good point.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]All comments on here by majority have been fact. Good, sensible football comments. I would never slate any of our players but I am not sure as I have said whether JWP would be in my first XI or in that very important role behind striker (not sure that's his best position).[/p][/quote]COY you have posted some sh!t hot stuff tonight, have you read through some of the early posts, Osprey makes a good point. fascia123
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

I am looking forward to seeing J Rod, Ramirez, Gardos and Taider get involved in some PL matches. I think from there we can get a better gauge of our future standings.
I am looking forward to seeing J Rod, Ramirez, Gardos and Taider get involved in some PL matches. I think from there we can get a better gauge of our future standings. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

10:23pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:25pm Sat 23 Aug 14

PTID1898 says...

On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP PTID1898
  • Score: -8

10:28pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
I thought that might have been a reflection of his accent!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]I thought that might have been a reflection of his accent! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

10:28pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Reasons to be cheerful
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Reasons to be cheerful fascia123
  • Score: -2

10:30pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING.
Premier league here only !!!!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING. Premier league here only !!!! COYR07
  • Score: 4

10:32pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

Given the number of players sold, RoKo has done an excellent job keeping the team together and I think there's little chance we'll go down...

... but if he sanctioned £20m for Long and Pelle then, frankly, he should never be allowed near a transfer budget again.

Watching Pelle in pre-season it was like watching a leaden-footed zombie lurch around the outfield. I'm fearing that not only will he prove a disaster, he could actually make Van Wolfswinkel's talley from last season look prolific.

And as for Shane six-to-eight-goals-a
-season-but-boy-does
-he-try-hard Long... All I can say about him is to repeat a previous thread that even in the most optimistic Saint's heart no one - deep down - can have been anything but dismayed by his purchase.

Ralph, you said to judge the team - and with it you - by the squad available to Ron on 1st September. Well, I sincerely hope you've got a top class striker, winger and CB up your sleeve because all honest and balanced Saints fans will say this team is dramatically weaker than the group who finished the league in eighth last season.
Given the number of players sold, RoKo has done an excellent job keeping the team together and I think there's little chance we'll go down... ... but if he sanctioned £20m for Long and Pelle then, frankly, he should never be allowed near a transfer budget again. Watching Pelle in pre-season it was like watching a leaden-footed zombie lurch around the outfield. I'm fearing that not only will he prove a disaster, he could actually make Van Wolfswinkel's talley from last season look prolific. And as for Shane six-to-eight-goals-a -season-but-boy-does -he-try-hard Long... All I can say about him is to repeat a previous thread that even in the most optimistic Saint's heart no one - deep down - can have been anything but dismayed by his purchase. Ralph, you said to judge the team - and with it you - by the squad available to Ron on 1st September. Well, I sincerely hope you've got a top class striker, winger and CB up your sleeve because all honest and balanced Saints fans will say this team is dramatically weaker than the group who finished the league in eighth last season. Saint Clements
  • Score: 6

10:34pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

COYR07 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING.
Premier league here only !!!!
Wind up mission accomplished.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING. Premier league here only !!!![/p][/quote]Wind up mission accomplished. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 5

10:38pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
You must be ecstatic to be trailing Morecambe by two points at the top of Division Two, heady days.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]You must be ecstatic to be trailing Morecambe by two points at the top of Division Two, heady days. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

COYR07 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING.
Premier league here only !!!!
Shall we just shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the stupid skate. If he wants to PALY up with his chummies, that's his business.

Meanwhile - back in the Premiership - it's been interesting to read what people have had to say this evening. I can understand what Warrens and J7 are saying - it must have been frustrating to watch (and I'm a little glad my internet has been playing up) but the general consensus seems to be that there were some positives, so I'll take that.

Anyway, apart from last year, when did we ever get off to a good start to the season?

Night all - don't have nightmares (unless you're PTID1898, of course).
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]I wondered how long bit would be for a ....... 'We don't go on your site and tell you we won' skate fan basking in their glory of a 1 nil win away at Oxford which sounds so exciting and next for us on the a saints echo page we will prob have 'the bestest fans in the world, boring history facts about how great skates were in 1700 etc etc etc.' BORING. Premier league here only !!!![/p][/quote]Shall we just shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the stupid skate. If he wants to PALY up with his chummies, that's his business. Meanwhile - back in the Premiership - it's been interesting to read what people have had to say this evening. I can understand what Warrens and J7 are saying - it must have been frustrating to watch (and I'm a little glad my internet has been playing up) but the general consensus seems to be that there were some positives, so I'll take that. Anyway, apart from last year, when did we ever get off to a good start to the season? Night all - don't have nightmares (unless you're PTID1898, of course). Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

10:54pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
I can understand your pride of achieving the giddying heights of early league 2 table standings. However I feel not many people in this forum will sympathise if you end up being relegated to the conference at the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]I can understand your pride of achieving the giddying heights of early league 2 table standings. However I feel not many people in this forum will sympathise if you end up being relegated to the conference at the end of the season. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

11:00pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
David McGoldrick used to score 40 a season in the Academy but his first team record wasn't quite as good!
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]David McGoldrick used to score 40 a season in the Academy but his first team record wasn't quite as good! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 3

11:01pm Sat 23 Aug 14

tarquin farquharson says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil…

Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it…

What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.
Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil… Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it… What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle. tarquin farquharson
  • Score: 1

11:02pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
I can understand your pride of achieving the giddying heights of early league 2 table standings. However I feel not many people in this forum will sympathise if you end up being relegated to the conference at the end of the season.
Eastleigh are now Pompey's local derby rivals!
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]I can understand your pride of achieving the giddying heights of early league 2 table standings. However I feel not many people in this forum will sympathise if you end up being relegated to the conference at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]Eastleigh are now Pompey's local derby rivals! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 3

11:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

tarquin farquharson says...

Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.
[quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE. tarquin farquharson
  • Score: 0

11:17pm Sat 23 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

tarquin farquharson wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.
If all that we had lost is a striker, I might be inclined to agree with that statement. Given that we lost half a squad and had to replace them in a hurry, I don't believe in ascertaining a lack of strike power down to 180 minutes of an individuals performance is enough to justify the genesis of a convenient scapegoat. Look deeper, the squad needs time to get it together.
[quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.[/p][/quote]If all that we had lost is a striker, I might be inclined to agree with that statement. Given that we lost half a squad and had to replace them in a hurry, I don't believe in ascertaining a lack of strike power down to 180 minutes of an individuals performance is enough to justify the genesis of a convenient scapegoat. Look deeper, the squad needs time to get it together. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 15

11:18pm Sat 23 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
tarquin farquharson wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.
If all that we had lost is a striker, I might be inclined to agree with that statement. Given that we lost half a squad and had to replace them in a hurry, I don't believe in ascertaining a lack of strike power down to 180 minutes of an individuals performance is enough to justify the genesis of a convenient scapegoat. Look deeper, the squad needs time to get it together.
Oh to hear common sense
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.[/p][/quote]If all that we had lost is a striker, I might be inclined to agree with that statement. Given that we lost half a squad and had to replace them in a hurry, I don't believe in ascertaining a lack of strike power down to 180 minutes of an individuals performance is enough to justify the genesis of a convenient scapegoat. Look deeper, the squad needs time to get it together.[/p][/quote]Oh to hear common sense fascia123
  • Score: 14

11:21pm Sat 23 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

tarquin farquharson wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.
Read some of the comments above. Osvaldo wasn't good with a very very good Saints team last year. Pelle being slated by 'great' Saints fans after 180mins of his career with us. Today we just lumped the ball long to him - no he didn't play well but only a handful did. How good was JWP today - not good at all !!!!
[quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.[/p][/quote]Read some of the comments above. Osvaldo wasn't good with a very very good Saints team last year. Pelle being slated by 'great' Saints fans after 180mins of his career with us. Today we just lumped the ball long to him - no he didn't play well but only a handful did. How good was JWP today - not good at all !!!! COYR07
  • Score: 16

11:49pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

tarquin farquharson wrote:
Berkshire Saint wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,
I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.
THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.
You can tell that after two games?
[quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Berkshire Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Pelle is the only 6ft 6inch player in world football that is actually smaller when he "attempts" to jump to head the ball, what a embarrassment, I know it's early days but seriously he wouldn't look out of place in any local pub team, just a giant clumsy buffoon,[/p][/quote]I think Pelle scored something like 58 in 66 games for Feyenord so it's reasonable to assume he's capable of scoring goals in this league. If he gets good service then I'm sure he'll score goals for us.[/p][/quote]THIS IS THE PREMIER LEAGUE. OSVALDO COULDN'T HACK IT.THIS GUY IS WORSE.[/p][/quote]You can tell that after two games? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 9

11:51pm Sat 23 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

tarquin farquharson wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil…

Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it…

What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.
Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.
His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks.
[quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil… Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it… What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.[/p][/quote]His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 9

12:03am Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
tarquin farquharson wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil…

Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it…

What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.
Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.
His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks.
**** on
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil… Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it… What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.[/p][/quote]His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]**** on fascia123
  • Score: -3

12:06am Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
tarquin farquharson wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil…

Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it…

What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.
Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.
His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks.
**** on
Should of said co!k on
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Slow tempo, my gran could play and press quicker and she has thrown of her mortal coil… Whatever this is I know what it is not and that is the team and style that won the JPT missed promotion only because of -10 points, next season won promotion then one promotion again, then cemented itself in the premiership and then won praise from everyone for some of the best football in it… What I saw today was some of the worst football in 5 years bar the very odd game, just horrible, I am talking about what abandoning we had come to know as the Southampton way…not happy.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Dire. Easy option, pick a striker you know to take to your new club with you and try to shoe-horn him into a system. It aint going to work. Pelle is not a footballer. At least, not this Pelle.[/p][/quote]His football abilities are a lot better than your support for the Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]**** on[/p][/quote]Should of said co!k on fascia123
  • Score: -4

12:07am Sun 24 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point. Block 42
  • Score: 3

12:13am Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
They took the dartboard out of our local pub for a case of this?
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]They took the dartboard out of our local pub for a case of this? fascia123
  • Score: -1

12:15am Sun 24 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
It's true, Pelle does not possess pace. It's not his game. I do think he is a good target man, and scored a lot of fantastic goals in Holland though, albeit with guys like Classie supplying him the ball. When this turbulent transition is done, Even if he can score half the goals he scored at Feyenoord last year would be a good contribution to the team. To get there and beyond will take a team effort at the end of the day.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]It's true, Pelle does not possess pace. It's not his game. I do think he is a good target man, and scored a lot of fantastic goals in Holland though, albeit with guys like Classie supplying him the ball. When this turbulent transition is done, Even if he can score half the goals he scored at Feyenoord last year would be a good contribution to the team. To get there and beyond will take a team effort at the end of the day. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 9

12:18am Sun 24 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
BLOCK 42 is a loyal Saints Supporter - had the flag laid out at Brighton AWAY and is part of our core support home and away.

That is what really STINKS Osprey.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]BLOCK 42 is a loyal Saints Supporter - had the flag laid out at Brighton AWAY and is part of our core support home and away. That is what really STINKS Osprey. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

12:29am Sun 24 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
Without trying to sound too negative or mistrustful of Koemans decision, I didn't agree with the Long signing, with respect to his Premier League goal scoring record. If you are to have a traditional CF at the forefront I would have envisioned some skillful, pacey wingers or attacking midfielder to supplement and credit the centre forwards attributes.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]Without trying to sound too negative or mistrustful of Koemans decision, I didn't agree with the Long signing, with respect to his Premier League goal scoring record. If you are to have a traditional CF at the forefront I would have envisioned some skillful, pacey wingers or attacking midfielder to supplement and credit the centre forwards attributes. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

1:08am Sun 24 Aug 14

poshdave says...

.......we had no flow today,they looked like old plodders, and after last season its a big change.....I thought RK liked pacy wingers?...who know's yet with Pelle, we didn't play well enough to give him any chances and in the Dutch league he had a lot of quality support....and getting on his back already ain't going to help...it seems like we swapped our style of play with the Hammers that's the problem.............
. We could have had Jordan Rhodes for a bit more than we paid for Long and that's the other thing, Forster and Tadic look like astute buys, the others?...well we will see.....
.......we had no flow today,they looked like old plodders, and after last season its a big change.....I thought RK liked pacy wingers?...who know's yet with Pelle, we didn't play well enough to give him any chances and in the Dutch league he had a lot of quality support....and getting on his back already ain't going to help...it seems like we swapped our style of play with the Hammers that's the problem............. . We could have had Jordan Rhodes for a bit more than we paid for Long and that's the other thing, Forster and Tadic look like astute buys, the others?...well we will see..... poshdave
  • Score: 5

4:28am Sun 24 Aug 14

cebu blue says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Dutch managers just don't work in the prem.
we have been here before that was utter crap today. If you can't beat west brom at home then it's game over.
How the f@uck did those skate b@stards win again.... Not happy
Yes 'utter crap' well said mugs. Pompey doing the business again with a win but the season is young. Scummer's club looking a bit llike relegation fodder but then again it's early days yet.

What a mess!
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Dutch managers just don't work in the prem. we have been here before that was utter crap today. If you can't beat west brom at home then it's game over. How the f@uck did those skate b@stards win again.... Not happy[/p][/quote]Yes 'utter crap' well said mugs. Pompey doing the business again with a win but the season is young. Scummer's club looking a bit llike relegation fodder but then again it's early days yet. What a mess! cebu blue
  • Score: -6

6:32am Sun 24 Aug 14

Shareholder says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way.
Is it possible for you to make a comment without swearing? It doesn't demonstrate an awful lot of intelligence.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way.[/p][/quote]Is it possible for you to make a comment without swearing? It doesn't demonstrate an awful lot of intelligence. Shareholder
  • Score: 4

6:50am Sun 24 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
And my football point was Pelle didn't have a good game however a lot of our team didn't have a good game. He is not the only reason we didn't win or play well. We just hoofed the ball up to him - tactics were quite bad. It is not good support to slate a new player 2 games into his Saints career. I also remember a lot of saints fans slating Jay Rod after his first 5 games !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]And my football point was Pelle didn't have a good game however a lot of our team didn't have a good game. He is not the only reason we didn't win or play well. We just hoofed the ball up to him - tactics were quite bad. It is not good support to slate a new player 2 games into his Saints career. I also remember a lot of saints fans slating Jay Rod after his first 5 games !!!! COYR07
  • Score: 12

7:21am Sun 24 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you!

Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you! Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 14

7:22am Sun 24 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa
nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up.. FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 6

7:35am Sun 24 Aug 14

saintmike61 says...

Quite clear pelle is **** ....
Quite clear pelle is **** .... saintmike61
  • Score: -8

7:41am Sun 24 Aug 14

saintmike61 says...

Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week.

Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B
Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week. Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B saintmike61
  • Score: 2

7:56am Sun 24 Aug 14

Blackknight says...

Need to add a pacey winger please.
Need to add a pacey winger please. Blackknight
  • Score: 3

8:00am Sun 24 Aug 14

saintmike61 says...

We can have the best lacy winger going, but with no goal scoring threat same end product ........ No goals.
We can have the best lacy winger going, but with no goal scoring threat same end product ........ No goals. saintmike61
  • Score: 2

8:14am Sun 24 Aug 14

milton road says...

In fairness the slow build up is a residual of last season under Poch we often played he ball around at the back too much. We did lack the high press today
YET that said. The game here against WBA was exactly the same last season and we really struggled to create chances then.
Pelle looks totally out of his depth and its hard to see why we bought him. last six games for us no goals. He doesn't seem to move off the ball is very static and totally readable, not a patch on RL.
When WBA had a 10-15 minute period where they dominated in the second half, we sent on Jack Cork to calm it down and it was obvious then we had settled for a point. WBA's forwards may not of looked that good but at least they wanted and moved for the ball.
In fairness the slow build up is a residual of last season under Poch we often played he ball around at the back too much. We did lack the high press today YET that said. The game here against WBA was exactly the same last season and we really struggled to create chances then. Pelle looks totally out of his depth and its hard to see why we bought him. last six games for us no goals. He doesn't seem to move off the ball is very static and totally readable, not a patch on RL. When WBA had a 10-15 minute period where they dominated in the second half, we sent on Jack Cork to calm it down and it was obvious then we had settled for a point. WBA's forwards may not of looked that good but at least they wanted and moved for the ball. milton road
  • Score: 4

8:14am Sun 24 Aug 14

saintmike61 says...

Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking
Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking saintmike61
  • Score: 1

8:16am Sun 24 Aug 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa

nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
We don't want to stay up, we want to continue the march of the last five years. We spent years just staying up and are done with that.

Your post about our inability to successfully sign good players is yet another reason for developing and retaining our own. This board are learning that but of course the damage is already done. Also if we hadn't sold them maybe the Hernandez's of this world might have been more interested in joining. That was the ambition the players and management of last season were referring too.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]We don't want to stay up, we want to continue the march of the last five years. We spent years just staying up and are done with that. Your post about our inability to successfully sign good players is yet another reason for developing and retaining our own. This board are learning that but of course the damage is already done. Also if we hadn't sold them maybe the Hernandez's of this world might have been more interested in joining. That was the ambition the players and management of last season were referring too. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

8:23am Sun 24 Aug 14

saintmike61 says...

If good players don't want to come to saints why is the board spending millions on poor players then?
Explain that please?
If good players don't want to come to saints why is the board spending millions on poor players then? Explain that please? saintmike61
  • Score: 0

8:34am Sun 24 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

saintmike61 wrote:
Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week.

Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B
He changed it 3 times during that game If you didn't notice that then maybe you should stick to netball
[quote][p][bold]saintmike61[/bold] wrote: Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week. Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B[/p][/quote]He changed it 3 times during that game If you didn't notice that then maybe you should stick to netball Saintsayer II
  • Score: 6

8:38am Sun 24 Aug 14

bathsaints says...

The whole game was flat not just the performance but also from us fans thee was very little in terms of noise and atmosphere, the biggest cheer came for Cork when he came on! To be fair we started last season slow with poor home draws against sunderland and west ham and away defeat to norwich but we then improved so we shouldn't judge too much just yet. We did lok poor up to though. Harsh to judge Pelle after a couple of games, I remember Dzeko at Man City having a poor start to his time in English football but look at him now but he'll have to learn first and we need to not just lump the ball up to him all the time. Another striker who knows where the goal is and a pacy winger would help and I'd still like Vlaar but give it some time befre we pass judgement. Koeman is honest in his assessment and I like him a lot as a manager and a person, he's had a difficult start to his time here in terms of al the background stuff but hopefuly deadline day will pass with no more outgoings and a couple of incomings and we'll start to see impovement. On a different note I thought Tadic showed touches of class and Forster looked every bit the £10 million player. A good win Tues eve please....
The whole game was flat not just the performance but also from us fans thee was very little in terms of noise and atmosphere, the biggest cheer came for Cork when he came on! To be fair we started last season slow with poor home draws against sunderland and west ham and away defeat to norwich but we then improved so we shouldn't judge too much just yet. We did lok poor up to though. Harsh to judge Pelle after a couple of games, I remember Dzeko at Man City having a poor start to his time in English football but look at him now but he'll have to learn first and we need to not just lump the ball up to him all the time. Another striker who knows where the goal is and a pacy winger would help and I'd still like Vlaar but give it some time befre we pass judgement. Koeman is honest in his assessment and I like him a lot as a manager and a person, he's had a difficult start to his time here in terms of al the background stuff but hopefuly deadline day will pass with no more outgoings and a couple of incomings and we'll start to see impovement. On a different note I thought Tadic showed touches of class and Forster looked every bit the £10 million player. A good win Tues eve please.... bathsaints
  • Score: 8

8:48am Sun 24 Aug 14

thesaint88 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
You must be ecstatic to be trailing Morecambe by two points at the top of Division Two, heady days.
Let's say it really for what it is, division 4!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]You must be ecstatic to be trailing Morecambe by two points at the top of Division Two, heady days.[/p][/quote]Let's say it really for what it is, division 4!!!! thesaint88
  • Score: 4

8:56am Sun 24 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

There were some good moments and some promising signs....we will continue to make progress and be fine. It is too early to judge and condemn...Tadic is a good replacement for Lallana, and Bertrand is doing fine in place of Shaw...Forster was commanding...RoKo is right we just need to up the tempo...remember the beginning of last season...only a last minute penalty beat the Prmiership 'draw' specialists and then we struggled against Sunderland and teams like W Ham..no need to worry...Pelle will be fine, he just needs much better service, not just high hopeful balls...and the understanding will grow..AL and RL played together for many years...Pelle and Long etc have had a few days...
There were some good moments and some promising signs....we will continue to make progress and be fine. It is too early to judge and condemn...Tadic is a good replacement for Lallana, and Bertrand is doing fine in place of Shaw...Forster was commanding...RoKo is right we just need to up the tempo...remember the beginning of last season...only a last minute penalty beat the Prmiership 'draw' specialists and then we struggled against Sunderland and teams like W Ham..no need to worry...Pelle will be fine, he just needs much better service, not just high hopeful balls...and the understanding will grow..AL and RL played together for many years...Pelle and Long etc have had a few days... Wembley76
  • Score: 13

9:01am Sun 24 Aug 14

Goalscoringmachine says...

I was at both games so far and have seen nothing in Pelle's performances to give some hope. irrespective of the supply he did or didn't recieve he has not shown the skill, pace, determination or most importantly desire. I know its early days but on the evidence so far we still need a full on goal scorer.
I was at both games so far and have seen nothing in Pelle's performances to give some hope. irrespective of the supply he did or didn't recieve he has not shown the skill, pace, determination or most importantly desire. I know its early days but on the evidence so far we still need a full on goal scorer. Goalscoringmachine
  • Score: 7

9:06am Sun 24 Aug 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you!

Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.
I love you Seed. never change.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you! Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.[/p][/quote]I love you Seed. never change. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 1

9:08am Sun 24 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

saintmike61 wrote:
Quite clear pelle is **** ....
Anyone with a clear understanding of the game knows that virtually all strikers coming into the EPL will take time to settle....Pelle is no exception, And you can't be a really good striker one day and **** the next. He needs time and support and 'getting on his back' will just hit his confidence. He is in a new team with a new strike partner (a few days) and in a new league...give the guy a break for goodness sake!!! Furthermore, the service he got was less than satisfactory, not much you can do with the ball 3 feet above your head every time...the understanding will come...but right now he needs 'support' and 'encouragement' not condemnation after only 2 league games....they have the same problem at Arsenal with their multi million striker...and finally shouldn't we trust the guy who knows him best...his manager??
[quote][p][bold]saintmike61[/bold] wrote: Quite clear pelle is **** ....[/p][/quote]Anyone with a clear understanding of the game knows that virtually all strikers coming into the EPL will take time to settle....Pelle is no exception, And you can't be a really good striker one day and **** the next. He needs time and support and 'getting on his back' will just hit his confidence. He is in a new team with a new strike partner (a few days) and in a new league...give the guy a break for goodness sake!!! Furthermore, the service he got was less than satisfactory, not much you can do with the ball 3 feet above your head every time...the understanding will come...but right now he needs 'support' and 'encouragement' not condemnation after only 2 league games....they have the same problem at Arsenal with their multi million striker...and finally shouldn't we trust the guy who knows him best...his manager?? Wembley76
  • Score: 6

9:11am Sun 24 Aug 14

long memory says...

It is a shame to see so many fans are having a go after one poor performance.
We need to give some of the new players time to settle in,and even the old brigade need to adapt to the new style of play.
Supporters are saying, we are buying poor quality players for a high price, have a read how Arsenals £35m player(Alexis Sanchez) is doing,taken off at half time yesterday for being totally ineffective.
It is a shame to see so many fans are having a go after one poor performance. We need to give some of the new players time to settle in,and even the old brigade need to adapt to the new style of play. Supporters are saying, we are buying poor quality players for a high price, have a read how Arsenals £35m player(Alexis Sanchez) is doing,taken off at half time yesterday for being totally ineffective. long memory
  • Score: 8

9:12am Sun 24 Aug 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

right I hope you lot have got all of that out of your systems.

now go and pick your toys up from wherever you threw them.

1) The team from last season is no more - it's not coming back no matter how much you want it.
2) Stop comparing the current team to last season - see 1)
3) New Manager, new players in the squad. We had a good pre-season however it is still going to take time to gel properly
4) Writing off a player after two games is really stupid
5) We only need to be better than three other teams this season - forget cup runs, forget improving on 8th (for now) - safety first and then we can worry about how high up the league we can get
6) The team need you behind them on matchday, singing, cheering, encouraging.

Now be good children, go forth and support your club.
right I hope you lot have got all of that out of your systems. now go and pick your toys up from wherever you threw them. 1) The team from last season is no more - it's not coming back no matter how much you want it. 2) Stop comparing the current team to last season - see 1) 3) New Manager, new players in the squad. We had a good pre-season however it is still going to take time to gel properly 4) Writing off a player after two games is really stupid 5) We only need to be better than three other teams this season - forget cup runs, forget improving on 8th (for now) - safety first and then we can worry about how high up the league we can get 6) The team need you behind them on matchday, singing, cheering, encouraging. Now be good children, go forth and support your club. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 14

9:17am Sun 24 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Only positives from yesterday, clean sheet and Wanyama. Big Vic was a beast all game, he's improving very match. Dare I say it... I think we would suit playing a 4-4-2, Pelle needs someone with him up top and it's a waste putting Long on the right when he comes on.

Next match?
Forster
Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Bert
JWP/Isgrove, Morgan, Wanyama, Tadic
Long, Pelle

We need to make a winger our top priority this week.
Only positives from yesterday, clean sheet and Wanyama. Big Vic was a beast all game, he's improving very match. Dare I say it... I think we would suit playing a 4-4-2, Pelle needs someone with him up top and it's a waste putting Long on the right when he comes on. Next match? Forster Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Bert JWP/Isgrove, Morgan, Wanyama, Tadic Long, Pelle We need to make a winger our top priority this week. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 5

9:22am Sun 24 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
Were you at the match today? I doubt it!
Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those.
I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.
No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.
I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]Were you at the match today? I doubt it! Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those. I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.[/p][/quote]No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.[/p][/quote]I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently Chapperall
  • Score: 0

9:29am Sun 24 Aug 14

StElsass says...

Aside from the result and performance, what I struggle to understand is how these people can justify the amount of money they are getting paid and the prices they are charging us.
There are players in my son's u15 team who have a better first touch and passing ability than some of those so called stars (I'm talking about both teams). Their GK seemed incapable of keeping the ball on the pitch from goal kicks FFS!!!
Best league in the world, yeah right!!!
We really are a bunch of mugs....
Aside from the result and performance, what I struggle to understand is how these people can justify the amount of money they are getting paid and the prices they are charging us. There are players in my son's u15 team who have a better first touch and passing ability than some of those so called stars (I'm talking about both teams). Their GK seemed incapable of keeping the ball on the pitch from goal kicks FFS!!! Best league in the world, yeah right!!! We really are a bunch of mugs.... StElsass
  • Score: -3

9:30am Sun 24 Aug 14

Goalscoringmachine says...

COYR07 wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.
He is probably better at spelling giid.
Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.
And my football point was Pelle didn't have a good game however a lot of our team didn't have a good game. He is not the only reason we didn't win or play well. We just hoofed the ball up to him - tactics were quite bad. It is not good support to slate a new player 2 games into his Saints career. I also remember a lot of saints fans slating Jay Rod after his first 5 games !!!!
I agree you with your "early days" principle but with a week to go, cash in the bank, and that there are no second chances in the PL, you have to react to the evidence so far which suggests we cannot just hope for the best. We need a proven goal scorer now.
[quote][p][bold]COYR07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what pelle is giid at?all ive seen of him is carthorse..hes not worth 7million.no ways...there's so many more better strikers out there and as for 10 mill for shane long..wtf is that all about..our scouting network is awful..osvaldo gaston pelle long.terrible.[/p][/quote]He is probably better at spelling giid.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately brother,spelling has nothing to do with it..so u can take your condesending middle class do gooding no doubt prawn sandwich munching during games **** and keep those pathetic comments to yourself...pelle is a carthorse thats my point..a football point.[/p][/quote]And my football point was Pelle didn't have a good game however a lot of our team didn't have a good game. He is not the only reason we didn't win or play well. We just hoofed the ball up to him - tactics were quite bad. It is not good support to slate a new player 2 games into his Saints career. I also remember a lot of saints fans slating Jay Rod after his first 5 games !!!![/p][/quote]I agree you with your "early days" principle but with a week to go, cash in the bank, and that there are no second chances in the PL, you have to react to the evidence so far which suggests we cannot just hope for the best. We need a proven goal scorer now. Goalscoringmachine
  • Score: 2

9:34am Sun 24 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Shareholder wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him.

We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans!

Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works!
It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way.
Is it possible for you to make a comment without swearing? It doesn't demonstrate an awful lot of intelligence.
Is it possible for you to make a comment about the thread or football in general ? Rather than posting a condescending comment about how another poster happens to voice an opinion.......tw@t
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: So much for the 12th man. I remember when j rod used to get loads of stick, then he started to produce and fans got behind him. We need to get behind the team. They need our support. We have made so much progress over the last 5 or so years and now is the time to show we are not plastic fans! Pelle will produce the goods pretty soon. Koeman was fine tuning and learn how the prem works![/p][/quote]It was there for the 15 mins, the 12th man that is .....then everyone fell asleep as there was f@ck all to cheer about. If we played Eastleigh every week Pelle would still be sh!t...no disrespect to Eastleigh by the way.[/p][/quote]Is it possible for you to make a comment without swearing? It doesn't demonstrate an awful lot of intelligence.[/p][/quote]Is it possible for you to make a comment about the thread or football in general ? Rather than posting a condescending comment about how another poster happens to voice an opinion.......tw@t J7junctionseven
  • Score: -3

9:36am Sun 24 Aug 14

NewForestStu says...

Goals mean points and i am certainly worried on that front. Where are our goals going to come from, i just don't see it. Add to this the Jan transfer window and things might gwt worst before they get any better.


Will give Pelle a good dozen games before passing judgemet but am worried.

So many goals from all areas of the park in the past and we no longer have that.

Still, a mere 39 to go.
Goals mean points and i am certainly worried on that front. Where are our goals going to come from, i just don't see it. Add to this the Jan transfer window and things might gwt worst before they get any better. Will give Pelle a good dozen games before passing judgemet but am worried. So many goals from all areas of the park in the past and we no longer have that. Still, a mere 39 to go. NewForestStu
  • Score: 5

9:44am Sun 24 Aug 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
Were you at the match today? I doubt it!
Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those.
I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.
No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.
I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently
It's early days, but so far, KL's policy of selling players for 2x and buying in allegedly equal replacements for 1x is not looking such smart business, particularly if we are relegated as the form of our first two games suggests.

I was disappointed that Lloyd-Isgrove didn't get onto the pitch yesterday - he is a sensation with skill and pace in abundance - qualities we so sorely lacked yesterday.

Ron needs time and I'm sure things will improve. Really, all we need is a top striker - this is where the remaining cash should be spent - one big signing - a player who can score goals and scare defences. - a household name, not an Osvaldo or Pelle!
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]Were you at the match today? I doubt it! Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those. I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.[/p][/quote]No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.[/p][/quote]I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently[/p][/quote]It's early days, but so far, KL's policy of selling players for 2x and buying in allegedly equal replacements for 1x is not looking such smart business, particularly if we are relegated as the form of our first two games suggests. I was disappointed that Lloyd-Isgrove didn't get onto the pitch yesterday - he is a sensation with skill and pace in abundance - qualities we so sorely lacked yesterday. Ron needs time and I'm sure things will improve. Really, all we need is a top striker - this is where the remaining cash should be spent - one big signing - a player who can score goals and scare defences. - a household name, not an Osvaldo or Pelle! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 3

9:47am Sun 24 Aug 14

DisplacedFan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you!

Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.
Your affection for the bottom feeders touches my heart!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you! Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.[/p][/quote]Your affection for the bottom feeders touches my heart! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

10:11am Sun 24 Aug 14

Chipmonk1 says...

saintmike61 wrote:
Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking
Yes why didnt Les hire a crack kidnapping team up to Manchester and drag Hernandez back to a secluded store room at St Mary's and waterboard him until he signed a contract for half his current salary? This board lack determination!
[quote][p][bold]saintmike61[/bold] wrote: Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking[/p][/quote]Yes why didnt Les hire a crack kidnapping team up to Manchester and drag Hernandez back to a secluded store room at St Mary's and waterboard him until he signed a contract for half his current salary? This board lack determination! Chipmonk1
  • Score: 2

10:21am Sun 24 Aug 14

Block 42 says...

We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****. Block 42
  • Score: -5

10:29am Sun 24 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
saintmike61 wrote:
Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking
Yes why didnt Les hire a crack kidnapping team up to Manchester and drag Hernandez back to a secluded store room at St Mary's and waterboard him until he signed a contract for half his current salary? This board lack determination!
Yeah you're right Chip. frankly I think we should have bought Suarezor maybe Sanchzez (0h no he's no good either)....lol...whe
n will people understand that we are doing great, but we will not be a top four club, those days of a Derby, Forest, Villa, Leeds or even Everton breaking into the top four are gone unless you have money to burn...I suspect that there are 80 odd clubs that would love to have what we've got...a team with bags of potential, a good manager, a good stadium and not facing administration...and it's not 1st of Sept yet...btw spare a thought for Fulham or Palace fans :)
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmike61[/bold] wrote: Including Osvaldo 30million on strikers and less than 10 goals per season. We could and should have got Hanadez from Man U for that money and more. Shocking waster of money by the board and the scouting team....shocking[/p][/quote]Yes why didnt Les hire a crack kidnapping team up to Manchester and drag Hernandez back to a secluded store room at St Mary's and waterboard him until he signed a contract for half his current salary? This board lack determination![/p][/quote]Yeah you're right Chip. frankly I think we should have bought Suarezor maybe Sanchzez (0h no he's no good either)....lol...whe n will people understand that we are doing great, but we will not be a top four club, those days of a Derby, Forest, Villa, Leeds or even Everton breaking into the top four are gone unless you have money to burn...I suspect that there are 80 odd clubs that would love to have what we've got...a team with bags of potential, a good manager, a good stadium and not facing administration...and it's not 1st of Sept yet...btw spare a thought for Fulham or Palace fans :) Wembley76
  • Score: 6

10:31am Sun 24 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill.
There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough!
Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.
No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team.

BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.
Were you at the match today? I doubt it!
Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those.
I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.
No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.
I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently
Sorry for being thick, but what do you mean by that? Due to various circumstances I watch most games streamed rather than going to the ground, and although you lose out on the atmosphere of being in the stadium, TV allows you to see things in much more close up detail, with relays immediately etc too.
Is there a technical reason why you believe you've seen more when at the ground and watching stuff happen 100 yards away on the other side/ end of the pitch? Our is it the"the only real fans are those at the game" snobbery often seen in here?
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: We had no cutting edge today and looked a bit lifeless. All we seemed to do was boot the ball up to Pele for him to lose it ! I'm sorry but I just can't see him cutting it in the PL he's just too slow and lacks in skill. There were 3 points available to us today as WBA were not good either, but we just weren't good enough! Forster was the best Saints player by a mile, which says something. I heard lots of people leaving the stadium saying that this is going to be a long season. If we continue to play like this with no pressing or urgency it certainly will. We need another forward urgently. But another Pele please as we have just created another whipping boy like Guly.[/p][/quote]No we don't, J-Rod will be back in a few months, we have enough quality, we just lack the final product and time to gel this team. BTW it's PELLE, not Pele, and why don't you stop whipping him and start supporting him! He was sent out as a target man, the lone striker, the ball never got to him, it was either too high, or right at his chest, and he was marked by two BIG central defenders who were on him all the time.[/p][/quote]Were you at the match today? I doubt it! Secondly many other teams have one striker up front, but the key to the lone striker is to head the ball on or hold the ball. Pelle (hope I have spelt correctly) did neither of those. I hope he comes good as you say , but a lot of people have doubts already which they are entitled to have after today's performance.[/p][/quote]No mate, I watched the game, live, as I always do, we get every game, LIVE in the US, I get back to watch the 2-3 games when, I can squeeze them in on trips back home.[/p][/quote]I thought that was the case. If you were at the match you might have thought differently[/p][/quote]Sorry for being thick, but what do you mean by that? Due to various circumstances I watch most games streamed rather than going to the ground, and although you lose out on the atmosphere of being in the stadium, TV allows you to see things in much more close up detail, with relays immediately etc too. Is there a technical reason why you believe you've seen more when at the ground and watching stuff happen 100 yards away on the other side/ end of the pitch? Our is it the"the only real fans are those at the game" snobbery often seen in here? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 5

10:34am Sun 24 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

Block 42 wrote:
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
Block..is that short for Blockhead?? Hernandez does not want to come here and anyway just have a look at his record...it is really poor..would Sir Alex kept him on the bench if he was any good....why isn't V Gaal playing him, why didn't Moyes play him ...his W/Cup was awful...and Podolski...just look at the stats...let the manager do the 'picking and choosing'...he knows a little bit about football I think....
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.[/p][/quote]Block..is that short for Blockhead?? Hernandez does not want to come here and anyway just have a look at his record...it is really poor..would Sir Alex kept him on the bench if he was any good....why isn't V Gaal playing him, why didn't Moyes play him ...his W/Cup was awful...and Podolski...just look at the stats...let the manager do the 'picking and choosing'...he knows a little bit about football I think.... Wembley76
  • Score: 7

10:38am Sun 24 Aug 14

Assaul says...

Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.
[quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing. Assaul
  • Score: 2

10:39am Sun 24 Aug 14

BracknellSaint says...

A bit of a dull game, and rather flat attacking performance, but to me seemed no worse than our efforts against WBA, Sunderland, WetSpam etc last season.
We've always had the tendency to move It too slowly, and look unwilling to shoot, in the final third, and that was with SRL, Lallana and Jay-Rod, who had been playing together for some time.
Surely we all knew it was going to take time for this new squad to gel?
One or two on here could do with chilling out, enjoy the bank holiday, and be thankful that we're a Premier league team, moaning about Premier league problems! I mean, could you imagine how awful it would be to be a skunt, faced with another season in division 4?!
A bit of a dull game, and rather flat attacking performance, but to me seemed no worse than our efforts against WBA, Sunderland, WetSpam etc last season. We've always had the tendency to move It too slowly, and look unwilling to shoot, in the final third, and that was with SRL, Lallana and Jay-Rod, who had been playing together for some time. Surely we all knew it was going to take time for this new squad to gel? One or two on here could do with chilling out, enjoy the bank holiday, and be thankful that we're a Premier league team, moaning about Premier league problems! I mean, could you imagine how awful it would be to be a skunt, faced with another season in division 4?! BracknellSaint
  • Score: 7

10:41am Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Wembley76 wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
Block..is that short for Blockhead?? Hernandez does not want to come here and anyway just have a look at his record...it is really poor..would Sir Alex kept him on the bench if he was any good....why isn't V Gaal playing him, why didn't Moyes play him ...his W/Cup was awful...and Podolski...just look at the stats...let the manager do the 'picking and choosing'...he knows a little bit about football I think....
Reasons to be cheerful
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.[/p][/quote]Block..is that short for Blockhead?? Hernandez does not want to come here and anyway just have a look at his record...it is really poor..would Sir Alex kept him on the bench if he was any good....why isn't V Gaal playing him, why didn't Moyes play him ...his W/Cup was awful...and Podolski...just look at the stats...let the manager do the 'picking and choosing'...he knows a little bit about football I think....[/p][/quote]Reasons to be cheerful fascia123
  • Score: 5

10:49am Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
A bit of a dull game, and rather flat attacking performance, but to me seemed no worse than our efforts against WBA, Sunderland, WetSpam etc last season.
We've always had the tendency to move It too slowly, and look unwilling to shoot, in the final third, and that was with SRL, Lallana and Jay-Rod, who had been playing together for some time.
Surely we all knew it was going to take time for this new squad to gel?
One or two on here could do with chilling out, enjoy the bank holiday, and be thankful that we're a Premier league team, moaning about Premier league problems! I mean, could you imagine how awful it would be to be a skunt, faced with another season in division 4?!
We'll said, I and my sons were at the game and all concluded that WBA ain't a bad side we limited them to next to no chances looked solid at the back even yoshida Vic, Spyder and Tadic looked useful, the rest is going to take time.

I went away from the game feeling it was a bit dull and I wouldn't watch the highlights, but it was the first home game, new manager, half a new team and quite a few positive signs, I got home and read some of the posts on here and thought we had lost ten nil.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: A bit of a dull game, and rather flat attacking performance, but to me seemed no worse than our efforts against WBA, Sunderland, WetSpam etc last season. We've always had the tendency to move It too slowly, and look unwilling to shoot, in the final third, and that was with SRL, Lallana and Jay-Rod, who had been playing together for some time. Surely we all knew it was going to take time for this new squad to gel? One or two on here could do with chilling out, enjoy the bank holiday, and be thankful that we're a Premier league team, moaning about Premier league problems! I mean, could you imagine how awful it would be to be a skunt, faced with another season in division 4?![/p][/quote]We'll said, I and my sons were at the game and all concluded that WBA ain't a bad side we limited them to next to no chances looked solid at the back even yoshida Vic, Spyder and Tadic looked useful, the rest is going to take time. I went away from the game feeling it was a bit dull and I wouldn't watch the highlights, but it was the first home game, new manager, half a new team and quite a few positive signs, I got home and read some of the posts on here and thought we had lost ten nil. fascia123
  • Score: 11

11:10am Sun 24 Aug 14

Shuan Li says...

Pelle will score against Wet Spam and we will win.
Pelle will score against Wet Spam and we will win. Shuan Li
  • Score: 6

11:22am Sun 24 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

Block 42 wrote:
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
Block I know you are very passionate about the Saints but I would hold off on the Pelle slagging for a while Judge him at Christmas when TinTin has had time with his squad. Long high balls to him are not where his goals will come from Tadic tried a couple of times to thread the ball between the CB's for him IF they had come off who knows
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.[/p][/quote]Block I know you are very passionate about the Saints but I would hold off on the Pelle slagging for a while Judge him at Christmas when TinTin has had time with his squad. Long high balls to him are not where his goals will come from Tadic tried a couple of times to thread the ball between the CB's for him IF they had come off who knows Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

11:22am Sun 24 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

Block 42 wrote:
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
Block I know you are very passionate about the Saints but I would hold off on the Pelle slagging for a while Judge him at Christmas when TinTin has had time with his squad. Long high balls to him are not where his goals will come from Tadic tried a couple of times to thread the ball between the CB's for him IF they had come off who knows
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.[/p][/quote]Block I know you are very passionate about the Saints but I would hold off on the Pelle slagging for a while Judge him at Christmas when TinTin has had time with his squad. Long high balls to him are not where his goals will come from Tadic tried a couple of times to thread the ball between the CB's for him IF they had come off who knows Saintsayer II
  • Score: 1

11:39am Sun 24 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 12

11:41am Sun 24 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

Block 42 wrote:
We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.
Have you seen Omar Rowe ? I know you never win anything with kids but this guy has terrific pace and knows how to find the net Give him a go at Millwall
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: We need to sign a striker and fast...we have nothing upfront..pelle was playing in holland which is like thr scottish league..shane long is rubbish never rated him a complete waste if money..we need proven scorers at this level...jay hernandez and podolski please...actually les reed can u sign someone the fans actually want..u are completely useless u bald ****.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Omar Rowe ? I know you never win anything with kids but this guy has terrific pace and knows how to find the net Give him a go at Millwall Saintsayer II
  • Score: 5

11:59am Sun 24 Aug 14

Abbey Saint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i

f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....

very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really? Abbey Saint
  • Score: 6

12:12pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
Top, top post.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.[/p][/quote]Top, top post. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Sun 24 Aug 14

SnapperSaint says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
Top, top post.
I second that!
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.[/p][/quote]Top, top post.[/p][/quote]I second that! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 2

12:17pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Positively4thStreet says...

I have recently been doing an analytical study of football,and have discovered that,in order to be successful, a team needs to be able to score goals.In addition to that, it needs to be able to score more goals than it's opposition.
The achievement of this,will lead to happiness,which is the state of mind that human beings have been searching for,since the beginning of time.
I have recently been doing an analytical study of football,and have discovered that,in order to be successful, a team needs to be able to score goals.In addition to that, it needs to be able to score more goals than it's opposition. The achievement of this,will lead to happiness,which is the state of mind that human beings have been searching for,since the beginning of time. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Sun 24 Aug 14

cebu blue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP
As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you!

Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.
Don't talk to your mother that way!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: On a brighter note Pompey won today get in ... PALY UP POMPEY POMPEY PLAY UP[/p][/quote]As regulars on here will know I have a soft spot for the skates. Well done you! Oh and it's PLAY not PALY you illiterate inbred bottom feeding slime slurping window licking mong.[/p][/quote]Don't talk to your mother that way! cebu blue
  • Score: 0

12:27pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Wembley76 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
Absolutely spot on!!!
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on!!! Wembley76
  • Score: 4

12:28pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i


f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....


very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
2006 → Crotone (loan) 17 (6)
2006–2007 → Cesena (loan) 37 (10)
2007–2011 AZ 78 (1
4)
2011–2013 Parma 12
(1)
2012 → Sampdoria (loan) 12 (4)
2012–2013 → Feyenoord (loan) 29 (27)
2013–2014 Feyenoor
d 28 (23)
2014– Southampton
2 (0)


Pelle record above, games on left goals in brackets.
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]2006 → Crotone (loan) 17 (6) 2006–2007 → Cesena (loan) 37 (10) 2007–2011 AZ 78 (1 4) 2011–2013 Parma 12 (1) 2012 → Sampdoria (loan) 12 (4) 2012–2013 → Feyenoord (loan) 29 (27) 2013–2014 Feyenoor d 28 (23) 2014– Southampton 2 (0) Pelle record above, games on left goals in brackets. fascia123
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
Top, top post.
I second that!
Even with the fragile, grumpy, morning after head it gets a thumbs up from me also.
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.[/p][/quote]Top, top post.[/p][/quote]I second that![/p][/quote]Even with the fragile, grumpy, morning after head it gets a thumbs up from me also. fascia123
  • Score: -3

12:52pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa

nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players. Saint Clements
  • Score: -2

12:57pm Sun 24 Aug 14

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!! saintlysoul
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Dennis says...

What makes me think that this season, our away record will be better than our home record? Playing in a flat atmosphere with abuse directed at a new player so quickly is hardly helpful.
What makes me think that this season, our away record will be better than our home record? Playing in a flat atmosphere with abuse directed at a new player so quickly is hardly helpful. Saint Dennis
  • Score: 6

1:09pm Sun 24 Aug 14

drkensta says...

Lot of good comments but a lot of non-helpful views. I agree we have to give the manager time to get the team to blend. I also feel that certain players are being asked to play in different positions to their usual ones in the last years team. In particular I thought that Davis was out of position in being lined up on the right side of the front three, as he is normally a mid-fielder. With regards to Pelle, I think he needs a player with him also in a forward, position, maybe Long, to play off, perhaps in a 4 4 2 system. Our mid-field is strong, but too defensive, we need some attacking creativity in there to feed the strikers. Perhaps things will improve with Gaston in the team. With regards to another centre-back, we have not seen Gardos play yet and he may be the quality we require. I live in Perth Australia and watch all the games live on television. Prior to the Saints game I watched the Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd. game, in which Vlaar was playing. He looked pretty ordinary against moderate opposition, and most of the good defensive work was being done by the other center-back. I think we do not need him. If we enter the transfer market again I think we should go for Wellbeck who is not wanted at Man. Utd., that is if he would come top us. He can play wide and through the middle in attacking positions and he has got pace.
Lot of good comments but a lot of non-helpful views. I agree we have to give the manager time to get the team to blend. I also feel that certain players are being asked to play in different positions to their usual ones in the last years team. In particular I thought that Davis was out of position in being lined up on the right side of the front three, as he is normally a mid-fielder. With regards to Pelle, I think he needs a player with him also in a forward, position, maybe Long, to play off, perhaps in a 4 4 2 system. Our mid-field is strong, but too defensive, we need some attacking creativity in there to feed the strikers. Perhaps things will improve with Gaston in the team. With regards to another centre-back, we have not seen Gardos play yet and he may be the quality we require. I live in Perth Australia and watch all the games live on television. Prior to the Saints game I watched the Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd. game, in which Vlaar was playing. He looked pretty ordinary against moderate opposition, and most of the good defensive work was being done by the other center-back. I think we do not need him. If we enter the transfer market again I think we should go for Wellbeck who is not wanted at Man. Utd., that is if he would come top us. He can play wide and through the middle in attacking positions and he has got pace. drkensta
  • Score: 1

1:10pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so?

Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate.

Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!![/p][/quote]Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so? Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate. Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this. Saint Clements
  • Score: 1

1:22pm Sun 24 Aug 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

I cant believe how fickle some of our fans are, no on second thoughts I can!

Ffs we struggled against them last year with all the players who left. The team have played 2 competitive games and the same people who wrote off J-rod this time last season are already on pelle,s back, you could hear the groaning from some after a few minutes! Give the bloke a chance, if Ronnie is happy with him then we should accept his opinion.

People saying 'no plan B' obviously cant see changes during the game.

Thought the whole team were poor yesterday and cant see the point in picking out individual players for criticism, yes a couple did OK like Big Vic and Forster but thats not enough to beat a team who came for a draw. We didn't give pelle the service he needs and he had no one around him to pick up his knock downs, which isn't his natural game.

The team will take a couple more games to click together so I would play most of them in the cup game on Tuesday. I would also start with long and pelle upfront together.

Come on saints fans get behind the team and cheer them on. Its OK saying 'we cheered for the first 15mins but the team didn't give us anything to cheer about' but its when the team are playing poorly that they need a lift from the fans, not just moaning and whining, thats not going to help them.
I cant believe how fickle some of our fans are, no on second thoughts I can! Ffs we struggled against them last year with all the players who left. The team have played 2 competitive games and the same people who wrote off J-rod this time last season are already on pelle,s back, you could hear the groaning from some after a few minutes! Give the bloke a chance, if Ronnie is happy with him then we should accept his opinion. People saying 'no plan B' obviously cant see changes during the game. Thought the whole team were poor yesterday and cant see the point in picking out individual players for criticism, yes a couple did OK like Big Vic and Forster but thats not enough to beat a team who came for a draw. We didn't give pelle the service he needs and he had no one around him to pick up his knock downs, which isn't his natural game. The team will take a couple more games to click together so I would play most of them in the cup game on Tuesday. I would also start with long and pelle upfront together. Come on saints fans get behind the team and cheer them on. Its OK saying 'we cheered for the first 15mins but the team didn't give us anything to cheer about' but its when the team are playing poorly that they need a lift from the fans, not just moaning and whining, thats not going to help them. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 10

1:25pm Sun 24 Aug 14

saintlysoul says...

Saint Clements wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so?

Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate.

Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.
I think your comment is fair I'm just trying to be positive and optimistic that Pelle will acclimatise to the PL I have to say I've never known a player to use his chest so much!!!!! I don't know much about Long. Like you I wish we'd bought more 'household names' who have a proven track record but we've got what we've got!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!![/p][/quote]Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so? Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate. Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is fair I'm just trying to be positive and optimistic that Pelle will acclimatise to the PL I have to say I've never known a player to use his chest so much!!!!! I don't know much about Long. Like you I wish we'd bought more 'household names' who have a proven track record but we've got what we've got!!!!! saintlysoul
  • Score: 2

1:28pm Sun 24 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
I cant believe how fickle some of our fans are, no on second thoughts I can!

Ffs we struggled against them last year with all the players who left. The team have played 2 competitive games and the same people who wrote off J-rod this time last season are already on pelle,s back, you could hear the groaning from some after a few minutes! Give the bloke a chance, if Ronnie is happy with him then we should accept his opinion.

People saying 'no plan B' obviously cant see changes during the game.

Thought the whole team were poor yesterday and cant see the point in picking out individual players for criticism, yes a couple did OK like Big Vic and Forster but thats not enough to beat a team who came for a draw. We didn't give pelle the service he needs and he had no one around him to pick up his knock downs, which isn't his natural game.

The team will take a couple more games to click together so I would play most of them in the cup game on Tuesday. I would also start with long and pelle upfront together.

Come on saints fans get behind the team and cheer them on. Its OK saying 'we cheered for the first 15mins but the team didn't give us anything to cheer about' but its when the team are playing poorly that they need a lift from the fans, not just moaning and whining, thats not going to help them.
Couldn't agree more with this comment.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: I cant believe how fickle some of our fans are, no on second thoughts I can! Ffs we struggled against them last year with all the players who left. The team have played 2 competitive games and the same people who wrote off J-rod this time last season are already on pelle,s back, you could hear the groaning from some after a few minutes! Give the bloke a chance, if Ronnie is happy with him then we should accept his opinion. People saying 'no plan B' obviously cant see changes during the game. Thought the whole team were poor yesterday and cant see the point in picking out individual players for criticism, yes a couple did OK like Big Vic and Forster but thats not enough to beat a team who came for a draw. We didn't give pelle the service he needs and he had no one around him to pick up his knock downs, which isn't his natural game. The team will take a couple more games to click together so I would play most of them in the cup game on Tuesday. I would also start with long and pelle upfront together. Come on saints fans get behind the team and cheer them on. Its OK saying 'we cheered for the first 15mins but the team didn't give us anything to cheer about' but its when the team are playing poorly that they need a lift from the fans, not just moaning and whining, thats not going to help them.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more with this comment. COYR07
  • Score: 3

1:30pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so?

Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate.

Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.
I think your comment is fair I'm just trying to be positive and optimistic that Pelle will acclimatise to the PL I have to say I've never known a player to use his chest so much!!!!! I don't know much about Long. Like you I wish we'd bought more 'household names' who have a proven track record but we've got what we've got!!!!!
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!![/p][/quote]Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so? Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate. Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is fair I'm just trying to be positive and optimistic that Pelle will acclimatise to the PL I have to say I've never known a player to use his chest so much!!!!! I don't know much about Long. Like you I wish we'd bought more 'household names' who have a proven track record but we've got what we've got!!!!![/p][/quote]Well said. Saint Clements
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

drkensta wrote:
Lot of good comments but a lot of non-helpful views. I agree we have to give the manager time to get the team to blend. I also feel that certain players are being asked to play in different positions to their usual ones in the last years team. In particular I thought that Davis was out of position in being lined up on the right side of the front three, as he is normally a mid-fielder. With regards to Pelle, I think he needs a player with him also in a forward, position, maybe Long, to play off, perhaps in a 4 4 2 system. Our mid-field is strong, but too defensive, we need some attacking creativity in there to feed the strikers. Perhaps things will improve with Gaston in the team. With regards to another centre-back, we have not seen Gardos play yet and he may be the quality we require. I live in Perth Australia and watch all the games live on television. Prior to the Saints game I watched the Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd. game, in which Vlaar was playing. He looked pretty ordinary against moderate opposition, and most of the good defensive work was being done by the other center-back. I think we do not need him. If we enter the transfer market again I think we should go for Wellbeck who is not wanted at Man. Utd., that is if he would come top us. He can play wide and through the middle in attacking positions and he has got pace.
We play a big centre forward alone up front no other player round him for miles he plays off balls time and time again and there is nothing there to pick up the knock down or play offs.
That's not his fault that's players round him not anticipating quick enough to get forward and support god give the boy a chance it's glaringly obvious we also need a decent speedy wide man on the right that can cut in support a lone striker.
[quote][p][bold]drkensta[/bold] wrote: Lot of good comments but a lot of non-helpful views. I agree we have to give the manager time to get the team to blend. I also feel that certain players are being asked to play in different positions to their usual ones in the last years team. In particular I thought that Davis was out of position in being lined up on the right side of the front three, as he is normally a mid-fielder. With regards to Pelle, I think he needs a player with him also in a forward, position, maybe Long, to play off, perhaps in a 4 4 2 system. Our mid-field is strong, but too defensive, we need some attacking creativity in there to feed the strikers. Perhaps things will improve with Gaston in the team. With regards to another centre-back, we have not seen Gardos play yet and he may be the quality we require. I live in Perth Australia and watch all the games live on television. Prior to the Saints game I watched the Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd. game, in which Vlaar was playing. He looked pretty ordinary against moderate opposition, and most of the good defensive work was being done by the other center-back. I think we do not need him. If we enter the transfer market again I think we should go for Wellbeck who is not wanted at Man. Utd., that is if he would come top us. He can play wide and through the middle in attacking positions and he has got pace.[/p][/quote]We play a big centre forward alone up front no other player round him for miles he plays off balls time and time again and there is nothing there to pick up the knock down or play offs. That's not his fault that's players round him not anticipating quick enough to get forward and support god give the boy a chance it's glaringly obvious we also need a decent speedy wide man on the right that can cut in support a lone striker. Simmo13
  • Score: 3

1:56pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster.

For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes.

For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was.

Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.
Lala ran out of steam most games after 60 minutes !!!
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: As has often been the case, we play our best games against the best opposition and struggle to give the less good sides the tonking we supporters would like to see. I agree with a lot of posts on here that a team that has undergone so much recent change will need a while to click and that this result, against a WBA side who are a long way from rubbish, was not a disaster. For those lamenting the death of the "Southampton Way" of playing, remember that this made us no more effective up front but considerably more leaky at the back. It also pretty much guaranteed that we'd run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. For those missing Rickie, remember how much less effective he had become as a striker in the latter half of last season. A fit J-Rod will fill the gap. Long will find his touch. Pelle will get to grips with the E g.ish game. Our ability to provide the service they need is better than it was. Obviously a win would have been nice and would have underlined our general support for RK and his rebuilding, but this was another step in the right direction and there's more good than bad to go forward with.[/p][/quote]Lala ran out of steam most games after 60 minutes !!! Simmo13
  • Score: 3

2:00pm Sun 24 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
TO BE POSITIVE and get support behind the Manager and the Team is the correct and ONLY path left to follow

The CHOICE is clear - walk away from actively supporting the Club - go to a few choice games a season - OR fully get behind our TOP European Manager and the current crop of Players that we have been lucky to secure and want to come to our Club and what rewards it brings.

It has been hard on Supporters as it is DIFFERENT now - we have downsized in all senses of the word and the path leading to the European Dream and Champions League is well and truly over. I can understand for the Saints Supporters on that Bus and plenty of posts have highlighted what has happened and ranged from dispair to abuse and the fight to be positive after a summer of chaos.

IF WE ACCEPT there is no medium term plan for a new stadium OR extending St Mary's - that we have what we have and will do our best to remain in the Premier League - then we are starting to have more realistic
expectations. A few rounds in the Cup and the chance to play against the likes of Liverpool and Man City and Chelsea in the League

Thete is no campaign to get kids involved to fill the Chapel and after all that has happened - why should hard core supporters fill Block 3 in the Ichen - Away Supporters - plastics will fill these spaces.

Although the FIGHT from League One has ended - a smaller downsized version is there to have a good day out supporting the Saints home and away and the higher priced season tickets in the Itchen and Kingsland have held their popularity.

J7 is right to voice concerns about STRIKE - let's hope the Strikers get the service and can adapt quickly to this League.

Good Luck to the Saints -the fans - and the selected Team on Tuesday in the Cup - and in the League. I have made my decision not to go - but will catch up with the scores and hope we continue to improve and generally do well. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!![/p][/quote]TO BE POSITIVE and get support behind the Manager and the Team is the correct and ONLY path left to follow The CHOICE is clear - walk away from actively supporting the Club - go to a few choice games a season - OR fully get behind our TOP European Manager and the current crop of Players that we have been lucky to secure and want to come to our Club and what rewards it brings. It has been hard on Supporters as it is DIFFERENT now - we have downsized in all senses of the word and the path leading to the European Dream and Champions League is well and truly over. I can understand for the Saints Supporters on that Bus and plenty of posts have highlighted what has happened and ranged from dispair to abuse and the fight to be positive after a summer of chaos. IF WE ACCEPT there is no medium term plan for a new stadium OR extending St Mary's - that we have what we have and will do our best to remain in the Premier League - then we are starting to have more realistic expectations. A few rounds in the Cup and the chance to play against the likes of Liverpool and Man City and Chelsea in the League Thete is no campaign to get kids involved to fill the Chapel and after all that has happened - why should hard core supporters fill Block 3 in the Ichen - Away Supporters - plastics will fill these spaces. Although the FIGHT from League One has ended - a smaller downsized version is there to have a good day out supporting the Saints home and away and the higher priced season tickets in the Itchen and Kingsland have held their popularity. J7 is right to voice concerns about STRIKE - let's hope the Strikers get the service and can adapt quickly to this League. Good Luck to the Saints -the fans - and the selected Team on Tuesday in the Cup - and in the League. I have made my decision not to go - but will catch up with the scores and hope we continue to improve and generally do well. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

2:02pm Sun 24 Aug 14

ctsaint says...

Saint Clements wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.
I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!!
Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so?

Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate.

Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.
I watched both games on TV, they are all on live in South Africa .

I also read these boards and occasionally contribute.

Last week we lost and showed great promise, as a team and individuals, consensus was very positive.

This week we drew and some on here have jumped on the slag wagon straight away.

All things considered we look like we have a solid team in the making, time will tell how we compare to last year, I do believe we will be safe from any relegation woes.

Slagging the board for not buying the right players or buying the "wrong" players is largely moronic, we would sign Suarez/Costa/Ronaldo if we could, fact is we can't. All those who want a Marquis signing who also claim that "if" the side had stayed the same as last year these players would come are clearly escapees from never never land. They also fail to mention WHO they would sign!.???

Slagging players off after a couple of games in a new team, with a new coach, with lots of new players, in a new league/country simply shows that you have limited grey matter in general. I grant that you may have an opinion and be free to express it, however try and attach at least some thought to your comments by putting them in context.

I loved SRL, remove free kicks and Pens and what was his goal threat last season? Will Pelle /Long score 10 goals between them......that's all we need to replace.....I believe they will double that.

Liarlana , 9 goals - will Tadich do better than that? I think he will, I also think JWP will score 7-10 goals this season....

We all showed concern about our defense, after two games does that look worse , better or the same?

In midfield it's widely accepted we have some very good defensive and attacking options, They need to settle, we do have options here, so we should be fine when they gel and in the event of injuries.

In attack,we still have our top scorer to come , we have 2 new signings to settle and some youth players to look at. We only had SRL (who looks shot to me) and Osvaldo who didn't play......

Get behind the RKRevolution and support the Saints! A quiet , nervy , negative attitude at St Mary's won't help anyone.........COYR!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The groan squad are picking a different player to moan about each week, last week it was Maya, this week its Pelle, who will be next weeks victim, my money is on JWP.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Some people just have to have a go at a player or players because of a disappointing result. For God's sake we are two games in with what is a new team. They need to gel! Give Pelle time. He's adjusting to the PL!!!! I note some comments about JWP. Anyone at the game yesterday could see that he wasn't being given the ball. When he is or when he picks the ball up he does something with it! Ironically Saints best chance yesterday came from his terrific free kick - he put in a lovely corner but no one was on the end of it!!!! Let's be positive and get behind the lads!!!!![/p][/quote]Genuinely not interested in starting an argument, but are you saying that if paying Saints fans believe an exceptionally costly player looks sub-standard, we're not within our rights to say so? Each time I've seen Pelle he's looked slow and dull-witted. And every time I've seen Long play - for anyone, not just us - he's looked Heskey-esque in his strike rate. Both look appalling buys IMO. And the worrying thing is we all knew this.[/p][/quote]I watched both games on TV, they are all on live in South Africa . I also read these boards and occasionally contribute. Last week we lost and showed great promise, as a team and individuals, consensus was very positive. This week we drew and some on here have jumped on the slag wagon straight away. All things considered we look like we have a solid team in the making, time will tell how we compare to last year, I do believe we will be safe from any relegation woes. Slagging the board for not buying the right players or buying the "wrong" players is largely moronic, we would sign Suarez/Costa/Ronaldo if we could, fact is we can't. All those who want a Marquis signing who also claim that "if" the side had stayed the same as last year these players would come are clearly escapees from never never land. They also fail to mention WHO they would sign!.??? Slagging players off after a couple of games in a new team, with a new coach, with lots of new players, in a new league/country simply shows that you have limited grey matter in general. I grant that you may have an opinion and be free to express it, however try and attach at least some thought to your comments by putting them in context. I loved SRL, remove free kicks and Pens and what was his goal threat last season? Will Pelle /Long score 10 goals between them......that's all we need to replace.....I believe they will double that. Liarlana , 9 goals - will Tadich do better than that? I think he will, I also think JWP will score 7-10 goals this season.... We all showed concern about our defense, after two games does that look worse , better or the same? In midfield it's widely accepted we have some very good defensive and attacking options, They need to settle, we do have options here, so we should be fine when they gel and in the event of injuries. In attack,we still have our top scorer to come , we have 2 new signings to settle and some youth players to look at. We only had SRL (who looks shot to me) and Osvaldo who didn't play...... Get behind the RKRevolution and support the Saints! A quiet , nervy , negative attitude at St Mary's won't help anyone.........COYR! ctsaint
  • Score: 7

2:04pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Simmo13 says...

Assaul wrote:
Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.
He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!!
[quote][p][bold]Assaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.[/p][/quote]He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!! Simmo13
  • Score: 5

2:22pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Hovesaint says...

Time Gentlemen Please!!
Its what we and the team need as does every other team in the EPL as new faces gel and understand how to play as a team. I have like all of us been through the proverbial mill this summer - but based on what I saw from the Anfield game - we have a team that can prove the critics wrong and only improve. Yep we are going to have some rubbish games where none of it works and we lose or come away with a draw, all teams do that but lets give it till at least December before we start to kick lumps out of Pelle and the youngsters.
We WONT BE RELEGATED, there are teams in a lots more trouble than us already and we do have a solid manager that I think will get the best out of HIS TEAM.

keep the faith and COYR!!
Time Gentlemen Please!! Its what we and the team need as does every other team in the EPL as new faces gel and understand how to play as a team. I have like all of us been through the proverbial mill this summer - but based on what I saw from the Anfield game - we have a team that can prove the critics wrong and only improve. Yep we are going to have some rubbish games where none of it works and we lose or come away with a draw, all teams do that but lets give it till at least December before we start to kick lumps out of Pelle and the youngsters. We WONT BE RELEGATED, there are teams in a lots more trouble than us already and we do have a solid manager that I think will get the best out of HIS TEAM. keep the faith and COYR!! Hovesaint
  • Score: 2

2:51pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Assaul says...

Simmo13 wrote:
Assaul wrote:
Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.
He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!!
He'll big back in January on a loan deal :)
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Assaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.[/p][/quote]He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!![/p][/quote]He'll big back in January on a loan deal :) Assaul
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Sun 24 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa


nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
We don't want to stay up, we want to continue the march of the last five years. We spent years just staying up and are done with that.

Your post about our inability to successfully sign good players is yet another reason for developing and retaining our own. This board are learning that but of course the damage is already done. Also if we hadn't sold them maybe the Hernandez's of this world might have been more interested in joining. That was the ambition the players and management of last season were referring too.
Well, of course we want to do better than just staying up, that is each and every one of us wish, but like they say before you start running, you have to be able to walk first, we are 13th at the moment.

Like you said developing our own talents will be the ideal initiative and that was Cortese main ambition, whether that still the case for this board i do not know..

and I dont think Cortese would have paid 12M for Long..

I would like to see those Youngsters given a chance to shine...

The better we do, the more attractive we will become...

We really don't know the reason why MoPo left down to this day, whether it was a selfish reason to manage a bigger club or the board ideas did not appeal to him..

It's difficult to say....
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]We don't want to stay up, we want to continue the march of the last five years. We spent years just staying up and are done with that. Your post about our inability to successfully sign good players is yet another reason for developing and retaining our own. This board are learning that but of course the damage is already done. Also if we hadn't sold them maybe the Hernandez's of this world might have been more interested in joining. That was the ambition the players and management of last season were referring too.[/p][/quote]Well, of course we want to do better than just staying up, that is each and every one of us wish, but like they say before you start running, you have to be able to walk first, we are 13th at the moment. Like you said developing our own talents will be the ideal initiative and that was Cortese main ambition, whether that still the case for this board i do not know.. and I dont think Cortese would have paid 12M for Long.. I would like to see those Youngsters given a chance to shine... The better we do, the more attractive we will become... We really don't know the reason why MoPo left down to this day, whether it was a selfish reason to manage a bigger club or the board ideas did not appeal to him.. It's difficult to say.... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Sun 24 Aug 14

PaulMHayter says...

Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
...and he'll be on the bench for most of the season at Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]...and he'll be on the bench for most of the season at Liverpool. PaulMHayter
  • Score: 3

3:06pm Sun 24 Aug 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Saint Clements wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa


nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.
We all wanted him to stay and carry on the brilliant job he had done for us..

But the truth behind MoPo's resignation still unknown.. whether it was a personal choice and wanted to manage a bigger club or the board's ideas and ambition did not appeal to him...
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.[/p][/quote]We all wanted him to stay and carry on the brilliant job he had done for us.. But the truth behind MoPo's resignation still unknown.. whether it was a personal choice and wanted to manage a bigger club or the board's ideas and ambition did not appeal to him... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 0

3:08pm Sun 24 Aug 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

Saint Clements wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa


nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.
Brilliant young manager? really, nah
[quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.[/p][/quote]Brilliant young manager? really, nah westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: -2

3:15pm Sun 24 Aug 14

mack chinnon says...

I hope the West Ham fans dont start shouting"Hoof" every time we play the ball up to Pelle next weekend.
U.T.S.
I hope the West Ham fans dont start shouting"Hoof" every time we play the ball up to Pelle next weekend. U.T.S. mack chinnon
  • Score: 2

3:19pm Sun 24 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses.

And i'll hear no more on the subject!
So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses. And i'll hear no more on the subject! redandy10
  • Score: 1

3:24pm Sun 24 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

Velleity wrote:
Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes?

I must say that I like the cut of his jib.
What a quality post!
I like him too and yes i agree he doesn't use the usual platitudes we have grown tired of hearing from managers. The fact that he's Dutch may be the reason for this, but an astute observation nonetheless!

You really do post the most insightful and thought-provoking stuff.
Love it!
Keep it up!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Isn't it weird hearing from a football manager who says what he's really thinking rather than just the usual platitudes? I must say that I like the cut of his jib.[/p][/quote]What a quality post! I like him too and yes i agree he doesn't use the usual platitudes we have grown tired of hearing from managers. The fact that he's Dutch may be the reason for this, but an astute observation nonetheless! You really do post the most insightful and thought-provoking stuff. Love it! Keep it up! redandy10
  • Score: -2

3:28pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Egomaniac says...

The anti brigade who keep moaning at what they see as the poor quality of some of our acquisitions just don't seem understand the nature of the transfer market.

You can't just assume that we have not gone for the big names!! I am sure some of those top quality players have been approached , but they just don't want to come and play for Saints! Why - well it's not rocket science is it? We won't pay the ludicrous wages they demand - a sure way to insolvency - and we can't offer anything more than PL football i.e. no European involvement. You can't just assume they are all falling over themselves to come to St Mary's - get real!

Yes, of course we are going to struggle initially at least. They will need time to understand each other and to click to Ron's ways. Give them all a chance for heaven's sake. We are not in the bottom three are we - look at QPR right now!!

I am a saints' supporter and will give the Club and its' team every support. I will wait to at least Christmas before I start judging the manager and his team.

So come on moaners - have some faith - you never know, you might surprise yourselves.
The anti brigade who keep moaning at what they see as the poor quality of some of our acquisitions just don't seem understand the nature of the transfer market. You can't just assume that we have not gone for the big names!! I am sure some of those top quality players have been approached , but they just don't want to come and play for Saints! Why - well it's not rocket science is it? We won't pay the ludicrous wages they demand - a sure way to insolvency - and we can't offer anything more than PL football i.e. no European involvement. You can't just assume they are all falling over themselves to come to St Mary's - get real! Yes, of course we are going to struggle initially at least. They will need time to understand each other and to click to Ron's ways. Give them all a chance for heaven's sake. We are not in the bottom three are we - look at QPR right now!! I am a saints' supporter and will give the Club and its' team every support. I will wait to at least Christmas before I start judging the manager and his team. So come on moaners - have some faith - you never know, you might surprise yourselves. Egomaniac
  • Score: 4

3:44pm Sun 24 Aug 14

deepheat says...

Ronald Koeman is renouned for getting off to a slow start wherever he has managed. Let's face it with a new board, new manager, new players and a new system of playing it was always going to be a tough season. I am realistic and don't expect too much this season maybe some academy players given a chance to come through and play for the first team and a good run in the FA cup would be nice. We have money to spend in the January transfer window to help us push up the table but really we are building for the long term. Watching this new Saints team is both exciting and terryfying at the same time. I have no idea what this team is capable of but they are my club and I will support them no matter what.
Ronald Koeman is renouned for getting off to a slow start wherever he has managed. Let's face it with a new board, new manager, new players and a new system of playing it was always going to be a tough season. I am realistic and don't expect too much this season maybe some academy players given a chance to come through and play for the first team and a good run in the FA cup would be nice. We have money to spend in the January transfer window to help us push up the table but really we are building for the long term. Watching this new Saints team is both exciting and terryfying at the same time. I have no idea what this team is capable of but they are my club and I will support them no matter what. deepheat
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Sun 24 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

every club that reed has been employed by has been relegated or gone bust !! need i say more oh and spurs are top of the league
every club that reed has been employed by has been relegated or gone bust !! need i say more oh and spurs are top of the league mickey01
  • Score: -6

4:18pm Sun 24 Aug 14

saints fan #1 says...

I feel everyone is too quick to criticize.
Remember we are only TWO games in.
The Manager is new, who hasn't even inherited a team who would know how to play with each other if they were managerless. Good RK has to mantle a team, get to know their strengths and weaknesses, check players that are linking. The first thing to sort out a problem is to recognize it and he has done that (Tempo). What ever the results in the first five games we need to be right behind the team and the players. do not forget most are new to each other. They need to find their feet. We needed to hit the ground running but it doesn't seem like that but the thing i'm sure of is when this team find their feet and Gel. We will be awesome. So please be behind the team and the manager give them time. At least five games.

COYRW
I feel everyone is too quick to criticize. Remember we are only TWO games in. The Manager is new, who hasn't even inherited a team who would know how to play with each other if they were managerless. Good RK has to mantle a team, get to know their strengths and weaknesses, check players that are linking. The first thing to sort out a problem is to recognize it and he has done that (Tempo). What ever the results in the first five games we need to be right behind the team and the players. do not forget most are new to each other. They need to find their feet. We needed to hit the ground running but it doesn't seem like that but the thing i'm sure of is when this team find their feet and Gel. We will be awesome. So please be behind the team and the manager give them time. At least five games. COYRW saints fan #1
  • Score: 4

5:01pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Churchill Saint says...

Simmo13 wrote:
Assaul wrote:
Roman Centurion wrote:
It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert!
And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.
He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!!
couldn't agree more, CT. Unbelievable that some fans are writing off some of the new players after 2 games or less. I guess some morons just HAVE to have someone to have a go at and will continue to do so even when we win the premiership.

Overall I think the team have done OK considering the maelstrom of the close season. I think patience is needed by fans - half a season, not half an hour.
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Assaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roman Centurion[/bold] wrote: It will take time to gel as a team, we will be ok . Can't help thinking the player we really miss is lambert![/p][/quote]And ironically probably the player Liverpool would miss least of all. Salary increase and more time sitting on the bench.......good business decision from him if not footballing.[/p][/quote]He will be sitting on the bench now more than ever now Balotteli is going there !!![/p][/quote]couldn't agree more, CT. Unbelievable that some fans are writing off some of the new players after 2 games or less. I guess some morons just HAVE to have someone to have a go at and will continue to do so even when we win the premiership. Overall I think the team have done OK considering the maelstrom of the close season. I think patience is needed by fans - half a season, not half an hour. Churchill Saint
  • Score: 5

5:01pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

saints fan #1 wrote:
I feel everyone is too quick to criticize.
Remember we are only TWO games in.
The Manager is new, who hasn't even inherited a team who would know how to play with each other if they were managerless. Good RK has to mantle a team, get to know their strengths and weaknesses, check players that are linking. The first thing to sort out a problem is to recognize it and he has done that (Tempo). What ever the results in the first five games we need to be right behind the team and the players. do not forget most are new to each other. They need to find their feet. We needed to hit the ground running but it doesn't seem like that but the thing i'm sure of is when this team find their feet and Gel. We will be awesome. So please be behind the team and the manager give them time. At least five games.

COYRW
I watched Man Utd v Swansea and have just suffered the first half of Man Utd v Sunderland they have arguably one of the best managers in the game, multi million pound stars, million of pounds to spend, and I would have to say the two saints games I have seen so far saints have looked better and more organised than Utd.

Both teams are going through transition and change and with that comes pain before gain.
[quote][p][bold]saints fan #1[/bold] wrote: I feel everyone is too quick to criticize. Remember we are only TWO games in. The Manager is new, who hasn't even inherited a team who would know how to play with each other if they were managerless. Good RK has to mantle a team, get to know their strengths and weaknesses, check players that are linking. The first thing to sort out a problem is to recognize it and he has done that (Tempo). What ever the results in the first five games we need to be right behind the team and the players. do not forget most are new to each other. They need to find their feet. We needed to hit the ground running but it doesn't seem like that but the thing i'm sure of is when this team find their feet and Gel. We will be awesome. So please be behind the team and the manager give them time. At least five games. COYRW[/p][/quote]I watched Man Utd v Swansea and have just suffered the first half of Man Utd v Sunderland they have arguably one of the best managers in the game, multi million pound stars, million of pounds to spend, and I would have to say the two saints games I have seen so far saints have looked better and more organised than Utd. Both teams are going through transition and change and with that comes pain before gain. fascia123
  • Score: 7

5:24pm Sun 24 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

Come on guys!

How can you be making any sort of sensible comments about "struggling to avoid relegation" after 2 games?
Come on guys! How can you be making any sort of sensible comments about "struggling to avoid relegation" after 2 games? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 2

5:53pm Sun 24 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i


f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....


very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really?? J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i



f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....



very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving. fascia123
  • Score: 7

6:14pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i




f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....




very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
And what do UTD do about it they sign Di Maria for 64 million, we need a massive slice of realism.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]And what do UTD do about it they sign Di Maria for 64 million, we need a massive slice of realism. fascia123
  • Score: 3

6:19pm Sun 24 Aug 14

J7junctionseven says...

fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i




f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....




very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan. J7junctionseven
  • Score: -8

6:25pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i





f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....





very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing. fascia123
  • Score: 6

6:49pm Sun 24 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i






f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....






very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

7:24pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i







f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....







very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 3

7:58pm Sun 24 Aug 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i








f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....








very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 4

8:24pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa



nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.
Brilliant young manager? really, nah
You seen what MoPo is doing with the Spuds?

Sure, the way he left us was awful, but he's something special - by far the best manager we've had in my 30 years watching the Saints. Only bitterness would say otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.[/p][/quote]Brilliant young manager? really, nah[/p][/quote]You seen what MoPo is doing with the Spuds? Sure, the way he left us was awful, but he's something special - by far the best manager we've had in my 30 years watching the Saints. Only bitterness would say otherwise. Saint Clements
  • Score: 2

8:24pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

westfordUSAsaints wrote:
Saint Clements wrote:
FindAndDestroy wrote:
Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,,
But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS,
We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples.
At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out...


Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season...

I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style.

Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa



nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester...

I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others.


There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy..
Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level.

The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive.

We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for
4 - 2-3-1 formation.

The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..
Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.
Brilliant young manager? really, nah
You seen what MoPo is doing with the Spuds?

Sure, the way he left us was awful, but he's something special - by far the best manager we've had in my 30 years watching the Saints. Only bitterness would say otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]westfordUSAsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Clements[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: Everyone is going on about us signing wrong players,,, But the brutal truth is High quality players don't want to sign for SAINTS, We wanted Hernandez but he didn't want to sign for us, this is just one of many examples. At this stage every relatively unknown player we sign is a gamble we are taking hoping it will work out... Of course things would different, we lost nearly half of our regular players from last season... I think it's too early to be cynical or critical, RoKo deserves the benefit of doubt, he had 4 weeks to put a team together, and had last minutes signings...it can take a while for players to play and connect with each other and adapt to the new regime and style. Make no mistakes there is no small team in this division, if that what you think you are up for a disappointment...Swa nsea stunned United at home, Chelsea played at home but had to wait about 70 mins before scoring against new comer Leicester... I wouldn't say these are easy games, i would rather say, we have more chances winning certain games than others. There is no point longing for a pacy winger if our style of play isnt pacy.. Gaffer's job is to get the best out of his players, how to better utilize their skills and abilities to perform at high level. The game might not have been entertaining, but at least we kept a clean sheet, that is positive. We still have some qualities on the bench, JRo will return soon, i would like to see a bit a change, bring on Reed,Taider, or maybe go for 4 - 2-3-1 formation. The time to start panicking hasnt come yet.... I still believe we a squad good enough to stay up..[/p][/quote]Big players may not want to sign for us now, but they would've been much more likely to had we not lost our brilliant young manager and sold our brilliant young players.[/p][/quote]Brilliant young manager? really, nah[/p][/quote]You seen what MoPo is doing with the Spuds? Sure, the way he left us was awful, but he's something special - by far the best manager we've had in my 30 years watching the Saints. Only bitterness would say otherwise. Saint Clements
  • Score: 1

8:25pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

redandy10 wrote:
So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses.

And i'll hear no more on the subject!
Very sadly, i agree.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses. And i'll hear no more on the subject![/p][/quote]Very sadly, i agree. Saint Clements
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Saint Clements says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i







f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....







very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
Excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Saint Clements
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i







f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....







very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
Poor use of the English language on my part and much to much beer, my point was you would not take some of the abuse chucked around here should it be face to face.

Regarding ssshhh and ripping anyone apart that's the type of threat abuse I refer too.

I agree we should stick together but I struggle to see that happens on this site.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Poor use of the English language on my part and much to much beer, my point was you would not take some of the abuse chucked around here should it be face to face. Regarding ssshhh and ripping anyone apart that's the type of threat abuse I refer too. I agree we should stick together but I struggle to see that happens on this site. fascia123
  • Score: 6

9:41pm Sun 24 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i









f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....









very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
At least you have taken a step back and taken a look at yourself, if I had anything to do with that, then I feel better about it, you want an example of how being too fanatical can be so wrong, a player was hit by an object thrown at him, by a fan that got carried away, the player has since died, let us hope it never comes to that in this Country, but it certainly could. By the way, I consider myself one of the good guys, I dare you to prove otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]At least you have taken a step back and taken a look at yourself, if I had anything to do with that, then I feel better about it, you want an example of how being too fanatical can be so wrong, a player was hit by an object thrown at him, by a fan that got carried away, the player has since died, let us hope it never comes to that in this Country, but it certainly could. By the way, I consider myself one of the good guys, I dare you to prove otherwise. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

9:55pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i









f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....









very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head.

I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!?

I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname.

I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!!

You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it.

We all love the Saints but show it in different ways.

Peace
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head. I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!? I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname. I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!! You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it. We all love the Saints but show it in different ways. Peace Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 6

10:06pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Frankie Bennett says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i










f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....










very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head.

I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!?

I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname.

I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!!

You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it.

We all love the Saints but show it in different ways.

Peace
I challenge to find a single thread I've commented on in the last two days where I appear a WUM. Maybe I do in yours but that's because we disagree on matters and tone of how to deal with them.

I apologise if I sound preachy but this is because of MY passion. My first game was Saints Arsenal when Shearer scored a hat-trick.

Since then I have watched in despair as the passion and club mentality has gone out of the game and players have become mercenary like Lovren.

I, like Osprey and Fascia I think, WANT to believe again - but we get labelled as HCs and slated for that desire which people misinterpret. That is what a HC is - people who WANT to believe.

Right, I'm done.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head. I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!? I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname. I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!! You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it. We all love the Saints but show it in different ways. Peace[/p][/quote]I challenge to find a single thread I've commented on in the last two days where I appear a WUM. Maybe I do in yours but that's because we disagree on matters and tone of how to deal with them. I apologise if I sound preachy but this is because of MY passion. My first game was Saints Arsenal when Shearer scored a hat-trick. Since then I have watched in despair as the passion and club mentality has gone out of the game and players have become mercenary like Lovren. I, like Osprey and Fascia I think, WANT to believe again - but we get labelled as HCs and slated for that desire which people misinterpret. That is what a HC is - people who WANT to believe. Right, I'm done. Frankie Bennett
  • Score: 5

10:08pm Sun 24 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses.

And i'll hear no more on the subject!
Promise you won't say any more on the subject and so will I.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: So as I predicted Poch is doing the business for Spurs!!! Those who claimed he never had a plan b, and was never as good as SOME of us made out will look pretty silly as the season progresses. And i'll hear no more on the subject![/p][/quote]Promise you won't say any more on the subject and so will I. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Sun 24 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i










f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....










very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head.

I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!?

I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname.

I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!!

You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it.

We all love the Saints but show it in different ways.

Peace
That's a fair appraisal.

We do all love our club and when it comes down to it you are right we do show it in different ways, I am not the most tolerant of chaps I will admit and don't take to abuse and threats to me or any other poster that agrees with me, sorry for any offence.

Peace from me to.
[quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Probably the best post you've ever made. Am not a HOTHEAD except when I read posts from you where you are derogatory towards other posters. In fact I challenge you to read any of my posts on the 'signings' thread tonight and say I'm a hot-head. I don't know if you are a father but if anybody mentioned your son on a thread I imagine you'd react similarly, in fact I'd expect it. Maybe I mis-read your intentions but it seemed very intimidatory. You were wrong about seeing me anyway so we were both wide of the mark it appears. No idea how you think you'd see me from he Northam btw!? I will always call you out when you resort to slagging off KL with that horrible nickname. I am sure you are passionate but it seems to spill over into preaching sometimes about how to be a fan. When I was at Uni I used to travel home 300 miles just to queue at the Dell at 5.00am to get a ticket in the Archers to watch teams like Everton, then travel back three weeks later to go to the game - total cost about 200 quid and some bad coursework grades!! So when you refer to me as a 'lightweight' fan it really winds me up!!!!! You became extremely derogatory on the Boruc thread a couple of nights back towards Fascia and he only seems to post positive stuff which you disagree with, so again I called it as I saw it. We all love the Saints but show it in different ways. Peace[/p][/quote]That's a fair appraisal. We do all love our club and when it comes down to it you are right we do show it in different ways, I am not the most tolerant of chaps I will admit and don't take to abuse and threats to me or any other poster that agrees with me, sorry for any offence. Peace from me to. fascia123
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Beer Monster says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Billy Bowl wrote:
Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team.
Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet.
Did you go to the game last season? A very similar and also sh1t West Brom came to park the bus and time waste. One moment of quality from AL turned the game otherwise it would have been a boring 0-0 just like today. This performance was pretty poor but we have to remember that our goals last year came from AL,SRL and Jay. We appear to be lacking any goalscoring quality from the new players so far so they need to up the effort. Pelle is huge and not very mobile so he needs to use his size and strength to give central defenders a hard time. He allowed that cheating ,moaning Olsson to bul!y him and he won virtually nothing in the air, especially first half.
Bizarrely enough, that was the only game that I managed to get to last season in which we won - all the others were draws and defeats... and I have to admit that it wasn't a far cry from the game I was watching on my laptop yesterday.

Still, at least Koeman isn't going to spin out excuses when our performances are lame and he seems to have enough nous to sort it out pronto.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy Bowl[/bold] wrote: Forster was good and if we continue to play like this he is going to be busy when we play a decent team. Apart from that no positives to be taken from this game. No one was prepared to step up to the plate and actually try and score. Last season we would have won this by 2 or 3 in second gear. We need a few in quickly. Never heard the Northam end so quiet.[/p][/quote]Did you go to the game last season? A very similar and also sh1t West Brom came to park the bus and time waste. One moment of quality from AL turned the game otherwise it would have been a boring 0-0 just like today. This performance was pretty poor but we have to remember that our goals last year came from AL,SRL and Jay. We appear to be lacking any goalscoring quality from the new players so far so they need to up the effort. Pelle is huge and not very mobile so he needs to use his size and strength to give central defenders a hard time. He allowed that cheating ,moaning Olsson to bul!y him and he won virtually nothing in the air, especially first half.[/p][/quote]Bizarrely enough, that was the only game that I managed to get to last season in which we won - all the others were draws and defeats... and I have to admit that it wasn't a far cry from the game I was watching on my laptop yesterday. Still, at least Koeman isn't going to spin out excuses when our performances are lame and he seems to have enough nous to sort it out pronto. Beer Monster
  • Score: 1

10:40pm Sun 24 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Andros Townsend, £12m, is this the answer? Discuss!
Perhaps not, as Spuds are saying, that despite the fact he won't play for them, he isn't for sale anyway.
Andros Townsend, £12m, is this the answer? Discuss! Perhaps not, as Spuds are saying, that despite the fact he won't play for them, he isn't for sale anyway. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:45pm Sun 24 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

fascia123 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i








f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....








very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
Poor use of the English language on my part and much to much beer, my point was you would not take some of the abuse chucked around here should it be face to face.

Regarding ssshhh and ripping anyone apart that's the type of threat abuse I refer too.

I agree we should stick together but I struggle to see that happens on this site.
If you are a good guy it isn't important how you say it, it is what you actually mean to say that is vital. The Shhh campaign is only aimed at obvious WUMs and the odd skate (that applies to most of them). There should be no need to get personal against anyone, but sitting at a keyboard it is so easy to do, because words can't hurt, only annoy.
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Poor use of the English language on my part and much to much beer, my point was you would not take some of the abuse chucked around here should it be face to face. Regarding ssshhh and ripping anyone apart that's the type of threat abuse I refer too. I agree we should stick together but I struggle to see that happens on this site.[/p][/quote]If you are a good guy it isn't important how you say it, it is what you actually mean to say that is vital. The Shhh campaign is only aimed at obvious WUMs and the odd skate (that applies to most of them). There should be no need to get personal against anyone, but sitting at a keyboard it is so easy to do, because words can't hurt, only annoy. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:07pm Sun 24 Aug 14

F Fan says...

saintmike61 wrote:
Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week.

Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B
That's just ****. He switched it at half time.
[quote][p][bold]saintmike61[/bold] wrote: Let's cut to the chase here. We have wasted millions on average to poor players. 22million for two strikers who won't get us 10 goals between them this season. Pelle is not even a Championship striker let alone our league. We have wasted the millions and fore sure have much less firepower than last season. No width today and no end product. Just thankful Wanyma is quality and Fonte and Forester give us backbone . We are really going to struggle this year with no goal threat unless drastic signings happen in the next week. Also we said our last manager had no plan B, today after 20 mins we could clearly see this was not working and again no plan B[/p][/quote]That's just ****. He switched it at half time. F Fan
  • Score: 1

11:41pm Sun 24 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
right I hope you lot have got all of that out of your systems.

now go and pick your toys up from wherever you threw them.

1) The team from last season is no more - it's not coming back no matter how much you want it.
2) Stop comparing the current team to last season - see 1)
3) New Manager, new players in the squad. We had a good pre-season however it is still going to take time to gel properly
4) Writing off a player after two games is really stupid
5) We only need to be better than three other teams this season - forget cup runs, forget improving on 8th (for now) - safety first and then we can worry about how high up the league we can get
6) The team need you behind them on matchday, singing, cheering, encouraging.

Now be good children, go forth and support your club.
Well put!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: right I hope you lot have got all of that out of your systems. now go and pick your toys up from wherever you threw them. 1) The team from last season is no more - it's not coming back no matter how much you want it. 2) Stop comparing the current team to last season - see 1) 3) New Manager, new players in the squad. We had a good pre-season however it is still going to take time to gel properly 4) Writing off a player after two games is really stupid 5) We only need to be better than three other teams this season - forget cup runs, forget improving on 8th (for now) - safety first and then we can worry about how high up the league we can get 6) The team need you behind them on matchday, singing, cheering, encouraging. Now be good children, go forth and support your club.[/p][/quote]Well put! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

1:23am Mon 25 Aug 14

redandy10 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i









f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....









very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
Spot on!

Posters like Block 42 obviously love the club, but because he doesn't post what some regulars want to hear, he becomes a target.

It really is pathetic behaviour!
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Spot on! Posters like Block 42 obviously love the club, but because he doesn't post what some regulars want to hear, he becomes a target. It really is pathetic behaviour! redandy10
  • Score: 3

6:43am Mon 25 Aug 14

Redslo says...

I have published a new blog entry entitled “Color Me Confused (and Rambling).” It relates to the subject of this thread.
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I have published a new blog entry entitled “Color Me Confused (and Rambling).” It relates to the subject of this thread. Redsloscf.blogspot.c o.uk Redsloscf.blogspot.c om Redslo
  • Score: 1

4:32pm Mon 25 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Frankie Bennett wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
fascia123 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
No sh1t Sherlock!
I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date.
If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i










f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side.
WTF!.....Worried....










very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS!
"Support" Really?
Yeah......... really??
United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.
Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.
Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.
ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart.

Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other.

Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS
No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.
You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team.

Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark.

For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster.

Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas.

Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters.

It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad.

I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age.

Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this.

Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been.

Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made.

Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs.

I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking.

I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS
Spot on!

Posters like Block 42 obviously love the club, but because he doesn't post what some regulars want to hear, he becomes a target.

It really is pathetic behaviour!
If a poster posts an opinion that I think is incorrect, I will say so, it doesn't actually mean that I am 100% correct or that the poster is 100% wrong, that's is open to debate and conjecture., that is the whole point of the site. When you say posters like Block 42, you have to remember that some may appear to be like him, but are in fact posting for other reasons, definitely are not Saints orientated, rather obviously completely the reverse, it is up to each individual to work out who they think is genuine and who is a WUM. If I seem to be judgemental at times it's because I have good reason to be, but I am not always right.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frankie Bennett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: No sh1t Sherlock! I've been supporting Saints for decades now and have been served up some sh1t in the past. Today's game is right up there in the top 10 of sh1t games I've watched to date. If we don't get up to speed quickly we are in the sh1t based on that performance........i f you can actually call it a performance against a sh1t WBA side. WTF!.....Worried.... very worried......and Pelle...f'ck me ! If he's an £8M player my mum must be worth £20M plus and could do a better job at 76.,,FFS![/p][/quote]"Support" Really?[/p][/quote]Yeah......... really??[/p][/quote]United on the same points after two games, Glaziers out, bring back Moyes, Mata and RVP waste of money, should of stopped Nani leaving.[/p][/quote]Couldn't and don't give a flying f@ck about what manure are doing......I'm a Saints fan.[/p][/quote]Are you really, fans support there club not rip the sh!t out of it at every opportunity, I have kept my cool on here being abused by to??ers like you I can very much tell you face to face it would be a different thing.[/p][/quote]ssssshhh !! J7 would tear you apart. Rule 1 - Saints Fans DO NOT Fight each other. Frustrating TIMES for us all. Take it out on the AWAY Supporters and TOGETHER AS ONE support the SAINTS. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]No, you just come on here, abuse other fans who have different points of view or sit in the wrong place, and make despicable comments about our late owner's daughter. Oh, and judged on yesterday's evidence of ironic cheering of Pelle from the back of BLOCK 3 at 34 minutes, you also don't support our players - fact.[/p][/quote]You have become a HOTHEAD and now losing the plot and posting an absolute load of rubbish. Like many Saints Fans I have travelled Home and Away to all parts of the country and got behind the Manager and the Team. Yesterday I was in the Northam - so you are once again wide of the mark. For the record - I enjoy reading lots of points of view on the Forum and spent a couple of years as a very positive poster. Where you sit does not make you more or less of a fan as there is a place at St Mary's for all - I had a great time at Millwall AWAY with fans in the Chapel - so it's not all Kingsland North - Northam - Itchen North - although you do tend to get hardcore passionate support from these areas. Block 42 alluded to the prawn sandwich brigade - he should have said radio listening brigade - but we know what he means - the middle of Kingsland and Itchen with a fantastic view does have a quieter different type of fan - not that there is anything wrong with that. Unlike me -I have become embroiled recently and less tolerant and as a Saints Fan - I apologise for that - as I love the Club - the City and proud of our Supporters. It is difficult to pick out genuine supporters and WUMS and POMPEY fans and until recently with your log in - you came over as a WUM - if as you say you are Saints through and through - then my bad. I recognise Posters like Gossie of old - Seed - Bad Bill - Slugger as the GOOD guys. J7 is also a TOP Saints Supporter and You should recognise this - Block 42 is a passionate loyal supporter - so there is no need to hunt in packs and form alliances and demean a fellow supporter for his spelling like Osprey - who gets carried away with himself - must be his age. Passion leads many supporters to identifying themselves with being hardcore and really giving 150% for the support of this Club - and like others - I recognise and can identify with this. Emotions ran high with summer events - when I believed there was a firesale - I was apoleptic with rage at the powers to be including Katherina. Ralph Les and the board could have done things differently and when you see the European / Wembley Dream ripped apart - I could have kept my thoughts to myself - but put how I felt into words to describe how I felt the structure of our Club was being ripped apart. Again yesterday I was critical as the reality and upset came through at what could have been. Today - all you see is criticism of the Club - but J7 also loves the Club and wants to see an improvement. Praising the setup without any criticism would imply all was well - when there are improvements to be made. Overall - on percentage - I am mainly a POSITIVE poster - and like fellow saints fans. I am intolerant to Away fans - but that is why I do not go to mixed pubs. I am stepping away from going to the Away games - posting etc as like others - I have got too involved and recent events have not been to my liking. I like the Manager and hope we can remain in this League for years to come. COYR&WS[/p][/quote]Spot on! Posters like Block 42 obviously love the club, but because he doesn't post what some regulars want to hear, he becomes a target. It really is pathetic behaviour![/p][/quote]If a poster posts an opinion that I think is incorrect, I will say so, it doesn't actually mean that I am 100% correct or that the poster is 100% wrong, that's is open to debate and conjecture., that is the whole point of the site. When you say posters like Block 42, you have to remember that some may appear to be like him, but are in fact posting for other reasons, definitely are not Saints orientated, rather obviously completely the reverse, it is up to each individual to work out who they think is genuine and who is a WUM. If I seem to be judgemental at times it's because I have good reason to be, but I am not always right. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Thu 28 Aug 14

TruthTellerTomIV says...

Hoping we lose every game until the transfer window shuts. So many of our players will leave if we win and who can blame them. #Koemanout
Hoping we lose every game until the transfer window shuts. So many of our players will leave if we win and who can blame them. #Koemanout TruthTellerTomIV
  • Score: -1

6:10pm Thu 28 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
Hoping we lose every game until the transfer window shuts. So many of our players will leave if we win and who can blame them. #Koemanout
Have you taken leave of your senses?
[quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: Hoping we lose every game until the transfer window shuts. So many of our players will leave if we win and who can blame them. #Koemanout[/p][/quote]Have you taken leave of your senses? fascia123
  • Score: 1

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