RUMOUR MILL, August 22 - Koeman linked with Belgian international defender

Toby Alderweireld in action for Belgium during the World Cup

Toby Alderweireld in action for Belgium during the World Cup

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Saints boss Ronald Koeman is being linked with a move for Belgium international defender Toby Alderweireld.

The 25-year-old centre back started his career at Koeman’s former club Ajax Amsterdam prior to a £6.1m switch to Atletico Madrid in the summer of 2013.

Alderweireld, who played in all his country’s games in the Brazil World Cup, only managed 12 La Liga appearances for last season’s champions.

The player, who has been linked to Arsenal and Monaco, also made a late sub appearance in the Champions League final loss to Real Madrid.

Koeman, who has spent almost £50m since taking over as Saints boss in mid June, has also been again linked with his former Feyenoord midfield playmaker Jordy Clasie.

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8:14am Tue 26 Aug 14

Saintsayer II says...

Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window
Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window Saintsayer II
  • Score: 29

8:24am Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke.

The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci.
27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature.
Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists.
According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward.
Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot.
For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal.
Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million
He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke. The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci. 27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature. Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists. According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward. Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot. For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal. Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million jls217
  • Score: 6

8:27am Tue 26 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

6 days to go..... Get In!!!!!
6 days to go..... Get In!!!!! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 8

8:30am Tue 26 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Here's a new one......

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Here's a new one...... http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/transf ers/arsenal-challeng ed-by-southampton-in -the-race-for-torino -striker-alessio-cer ci-tuttosport/ KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

8:33am Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting. jls217
  • Score: 10

8:49am Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

Well, the back room boys are being kept busy.

Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?)
By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?
Well, the back room boys are being kept busy. Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?) By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit? jls217
  • Score: 13

8:50am Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Here's a new one......

http://www.101greatg

oals.com/blog/transf

ers/arsenal-challeng

ed-by-southampton-in

-the-race-for-torino

-striker-alessio-cer

ci-tuttosport/
Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!?
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: Here's a new one...... http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/transf ers/arsenal-challeng ed-by-southampton-in -the-race-for-torino -striker-alessio-cer ci-tuttosport/[/p][/quote]Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!? jls217
  • Score: 2

8:51am Tue 26 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

jls217 wrote:
Well, the back room boys are being kept busy.

Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?)
By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?
You missed Big Vic :)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Well, the back room boys are being kept busy. Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?) By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?[/p][/quote]You missed Big Vic :) KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 6

8:52am Tue 26 Aug 14

COYR07 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window
These 2 would definitely be great signings.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window[/p][/quote]These 2 would definitely be great signings. COYR07
  • Score: 6

8:54am Tue 26 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Here's a new one......

http://www.101greatg


oals.com/blog/transf


ers/arsenal-challeng


ed-by-southampton-in


-the-race-for-torino


-striker-alessio-cer


ci-tuttosport/
Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!?
For sure bud, he comes highly rated I guess any more Italian strikers signed might be treated with some trepidation though!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: Here's a new one...... http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/transf ers/arsenal-challeng ed-by-southampton-in -the-race-for-torino -striker-alessio-cer ci-tuttosport/[/p][/quote]Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!?[/p][/quote]For sure bud, he comes highly rated I guess any more Italian strikers signed might be treated with some trepidation though! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 8

8:54am Tue 26 Aug 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

jls217 wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Here's a new one......

http://www.101greatg


oals.com/blog/transf


ers/arsenal-challeng


ed-by-southampton-in


-the-race-for-torino


-striker-alessio-cer


ci-tuttosport/
Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!?
For sure bud, he comes highly rated I guess any more Italian strikers signed might be treated with some trepidation though!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: Here's a new one...... http://www.101greatg oals.com/blog/transf ers/arsenal-challeng ed-by-southampton-in -the-race-for-torino -striker-alessio-cer ci-tuttosport/[/p][/quote]Just read the article mate - This name came out of the blue but we're in with a shout at least eh!?[/p][/quote]For sure bud, he comes highly rated I guess any more Italian strikers signed might be treated with some trepidation though! KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

9:31am Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Well, the back room boys are being kept busy.

Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?)
By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?
You missed Big Vic :)
Christ! Don't tell him please.

Well of course Big Vic's name would normally be first on the list but in this case I see him as our primary defensive MF man and not as our playmaker, though I'm sure he has all the attributes to adapt.

'Owzat for no notice back peddling. He might let me live another day if he sees it know.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Well, the back room boys are being kept busy. Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?) By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?[/p][/quote]You missed Big Vic :)[/p][/quote]Christ! Don't tell him please. Well of course Big Vic's name would normally be first on the list but in this case I see him as our primary defensive MF man and not as our playmaker, though I'm sure he has all the attributes to adapt. 'Owzat for no notice back peddling. He might let me live another day if he sees it know. jls217
  • Score: 6

10:05am Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

10:10am Tue 26 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 13

10:47am Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :)
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :) SaintJD
  • Score: 4

10:53am Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

I hope this talk of buying another striker doesn't mean we have another Mayuka, Lee, Osvaldo situation - a reasonably expensive signing on a long term deal who hardly plays a game for the club.

Sometimes players just need time to find their feet and adapt. I think Pelle and Long (or any new player we sign) need a run in the team - it's the only way for them to gain confidence and kick on.
I hope this talk of buying another striker doesn't mean we have another Mayuka, Lee, Osvaldo situation - a reasonably expensive signing on a long term deal who hardly plays a game for the club. Sometimes players just need time to find their feet and adapt. I think Pelle and Long (or any new player we sign) need a run in the team - it's the only way for them to gain confidence and kick on. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

10:55am Tue 26 Aug 14

saint Compo says...

After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 15

11:04am Tue 26 Aug 14

FortWorth_Saint says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa.

Just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa. Just a thought. FortWorth_Saint
  • Score: -7

11:15am Tue 26 Aug 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Now we are talking, Toby Alderweireld & Jordy Clasie are top quality players which would really should our ambition.
Then add a winger with a good cross Townsend ? can he also play up front ?&/or a Striker Cerci ? or better and we will be better than last season.

Come on Les final busy six days !

COYR&WS
Now we are talking, Toby Alderweireld & Jordy Clasie are top quality players which would really should our ambition. Then add a winger with a good cross Townsend ? can he also play up front ?&/or a Striker Cerci ? or better and we will be better than last season. Come on Les final busy six days ! COYR&WS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 6

11:53am Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves.

... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls.
Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely
These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves. ... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls. Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely Alicesdad
  • Score: 8

11:55am Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

saint Compo wrote:
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
Ha!! £3million max and Rickke as makeweight..
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR[/p][/quote]Ha!! £3million max and Rickke as makeweight.. Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

11:58am Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Sorry - a bit disrespectful to Rickie .. but Im pleased that Lovren had a dodgy start .
Sorry - a bit disrespectful to Rickie .. but Im pleased that Lovren had a dodgy start . Alicesdad
  • Score: 6

12:01pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical..
Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical.. Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Sorry - a bit disrespectful to Rickie .. but Im pleased that Lovren had a dodgy start .
Yes. Less pleased about MoPo, but I think we need to accept that the guy is a great manager, even if he is a smug and slightly underhand git.

He got very luck against West Ham, but looks set now and the fixtures are good.

That said, there's only one thing worse than having a terrible start when you are a Spurs manager and that's raising expectations. Now the fans think they should be winning the league.

He'll pay for it later, much as Harry did. Problem for anyone at Spurs is that the fans actually believe they should be winning the league regardless of how ridiculous that might be.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Sorry - a bit disrespectful to Rickie .. but Im pleased that Lovren had a dodgy start .[/p][/quote]Yes. Less pleased about MoPo, but I think we need to accept that the guy is a great manager, even if he is a smug and slightly underhand git. He got very luck against West Ham, but looks set now and the fixtures are good. That said, there's only one thing worse than having a terrible start when you are a Spurs manager and that's raising expectations. Now the fans think they should be winning the league. He'll pay for it later, much as Harry did. Problem for anyone at Spurs is that the fans actually believe they should be winning the league regardless of how ridiculous that might be. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

12:14pm Tue 26 Aug 14

InsideOutCat says...

FortWorth_Saint wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa.

Just a thought.
Is Ron Vlaar actually any better than what we now have? Yes, he had a pretty good World Cup (although this may have been overstated by the TV pundits, who were clearly very impressed by his "Roncrete" / "Concrete Ron" nickname and wanted to use it as often as possible), but he was part of a pretty good side which managed to mask a few of his shortcomings in the positional sense department. The best defenders rarely make spectacular last-ditch challenges because they rarely allow themselves to be caught out to the extent that such a challenge is necessary.
[quote][p][bold]FortWorth_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]Is Ron Vlaar actually any better than what we now have? Yes, he had a pretty good World Cup (although this may have been overstated by the TV pundits, who were clearly very impressed by his "Roncrete" / "Concrete Ron" nickname and wanted to use it as often as possible), but he was part of a pretty good side which managed to mask a few of his shortcomings in the positional sense department. The best defenders rarely make spectacular last-ditch challenges because they rarely allow themselves to be caught out to the extent that such a challenge is necessary. InsideOutCat
  • Score: 4

12:28pm Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :)
It's our pies and cider that'll swing the deal - mark my words.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :)[/p][/quote]It's our pies and cider that'll swing the deal - mark my words. jls217
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Tue 26 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window
i ve got a gut feeling s spiders on way to spurs bookies odds on ! to smooth things over we will get andros townsend , and ron will get jordie classie in , his old captain from feyenoord , that will bring sfc s tranfer this window to a close , if this does nt happen i will be over the moon , dearly want morg s to stay , fingers crossed . bookies so often bl oody right tho, its gonna be a tense but exiting end to the window , talk about high s and lows ! ps stil want classie and townsend but morgs defo to STAY a saint !
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Now wouldn't these two make it a happy ending to the summer window[/p][/quote]i ve got a gut feeling s spiders on way to spurs bookies odds on ! to smooth things over we will get andros townsend , and ron will get jordie classie in , his old captain from feyenoord , that will bring sfc s tranfer this window to a close , if this does nt happen i will be over the moon , dearly want morg s to stay , fingers crossed . bookies so often bl oody right tho, its gonna be a tense but exiting end to the window , talk about high s and lows ! ps stil want classie and townsend but morgs defo to STAY a saint ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Tue 26 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

jls217 wrote:
Well, the back room boys are being kept busy.

Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?)
By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?
ye mate its all good , im really hoping spider stays but im nervous , if he stays i l jump for joy but if not , go on son on ur bike ! nice result for man city last night lol really enjoyed a suarez less liverhampton , TOOTHLESS !
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Well, the back room boys are being kept busy. Clasie has apparently told football gossip columns he would welcome the chance to work with Rambo again - This fella is clearly pretty good with enormous potential but do we need another CM? We have Tadic, Cork, JWP, Gaston, Davis, Spyder and Reed (have I missed one?) all capable of being called our playmaker. We need a head banging, barn storming, schitt off a shovel striker, an out and out, schitt off a shovel winger and cover for CB + RB (Alderweireld?) By Friday my blood pressure will be through the roof - good innit?[/p][/quote]ye mate its all good , im really hoping spider stays but im nervous , if he stays i l jump for joy but if not , go on son on ur bike ! nice result for man city last night lol really enjoyed a suarez less liverhampton , TOOTHLESS ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 2

12:50pm Tue 26 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

saint Compo wrote:
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
LOVE IT !
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR[/p][/quote]LOVE IT ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Alicesdad wrote:
These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves.

... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls.
Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely
Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Oh, wait a mo ...................

To the rumours, for me:
Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!)
Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.)
Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.)

Stressful week for us all!

A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves. ... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls. Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely[/p][/quote]Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for. Oh, wait a mo ................... To the rumours, for me: Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!) Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.) Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.) Stressful week for us all! A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

1:11pm Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke.

The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci.
27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature.
Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists.
According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward.
Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot.
For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal.
Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million
Is a one-in-four 'in the hole' striker really what we're missing? I think we've already paid £12M for one of those and Gaston, Taider and Tadic can play that role.

His assist record is good, but again I think we're fine in terms of creating chances both in terms of flair players and those that can whip in a cross, it's finishing them we struggle with.

Surely if we are looking to spend that sort of money we should be looking at more of a big, strong and pacey target man to give Pelle some competition?

And I still think, if we are looking for a creative attack option Ben Arfa is sitting there waiting to be snapped up on the cheap or on loan.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke. The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci. 27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature. Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists. According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward. Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot. For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal. Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million[/p][/quote]Is a one-in-four 'in the hole' striker really what we're missing? I think we've already paid £12M for one of those and Gaston, Taider and Tadic can play that role. His assist record is good, but again I think we're fine in terms of creating chances both in terms of flair players and those that can whip in a cross, it's finishing them we struggle with. Surely if we are looking to spend that sort of money we should be looking at more of a big, strong and pacey target man to give Pelle some competition? And I still think, if we are looking for a creative attack option Ben Arfa is sitting there waiting to be snapped up on the cheap or on loan. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Tue 26 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical..
My sources? You sound like one of those numpties who pretend to be "official agents" on Twitter!. Shouldn't mention "my sources" unless you can name them because no one will believe you if don't name, names. Just saying :o)
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical..[/p][/quote]My sources? You sound like one of those numpties who pretend to be "official agents" on Twitter!. Shouldn't mention "my sources" unless you can name them because no one will believe you if don't name, names. Just saying :o) OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Tue 26 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

FortWorth_Saint wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa.

Just a thought.
Perish the thought!
[quote][p][bold]FortWorth_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]Perish the thought! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves.

... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls.
Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely
Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Oh, wait a mo ...................

To the rumours, for me:
Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!)
Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.)
Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.)

Stressful week for us all!

A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave.
Anything involving Morgan leaving would be very depressing as far as I'm concerned, especially if Townsend is involved. To be honest I don't think it would be fair on any player to be part of a swap deal for him, because the fans would likely be on that player's back comparing the two.

It's not even a case of whether we need Morgan or not or whether we replace him with someone just as promising - it's just that it would make us look weak and easily bullied, putting a downer on the general mood at the club. Would also cause unrest because it would ultimately mean the fans had been lied to, no matter how they dress it up.

Let's hope we finish the window strengthening rather than losing our best players.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves. ... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls. Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely[/p][/quote]Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for. Oh, wait a mo ................... To the rumours, for me: Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!) Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.) Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.) Stressful week for us all! A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave.[/p][/quote]Anything involving Morgan leaving would be very depressing as far as I'm concerned, especially if Townsend is involved. To be honest I don't think it would be fair on any player to be part of a swap deal for him, because the fans would likely be on that player's back comparing the two. It's not even a case of whether we need Morgan or not or whether we replace him with someone just as promising - it's just that it would make us look weak and easily bullied, putting a downer on the general mood at the club. Would also cause unrest because it would ultimately mean the fans had been lied to, no matter how they dress it up. Let's hope we finish the window strengthening rather than losing our best players. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

1:23pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
I hope this talk of buying another striker doesn't mean we have another Mayuka, Lee, Osvaldo situation - a reasonably expensive signing on a long term deal who hardly plays a game for the club.

Sometimes players just need time to find their feet and adapt. I think Pelle and Long (or any new player we sign) need a run in the team - it's the only way for them to gain confidence and kick on.
Lee was amazingly expensive! He came on a free transfer!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: I hope this talk of buying another striker doesn't mean we have another Mayuka, Lee, Osvaldo situation - a reasonably expensive signing on a long term deal who hardly plays a game for the club. Sometimes players just need time to find their feet and adapt. I think Pelle and Long (or any new player we sign) need a run in the team - it's the only way for them to gain confidence and kick on.[/p][/quote]Lee was amazingly expensive! He came on a free transfer! Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

2:01pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical..
My sources? You sound like one of those numpties who pretend to be "official agents" on Twitter!. Shouldn't mention "my sources" unless you can name them because no one will believe you if don't name, names. Just saying :o)
OMG You are right !! I immediately withdraw all reference to my sources. My sources are about as reliable as those found on mountain spring water bottles. I do however vigorously deny being a numpty but accept the charge is well meant. I plead not guilty.

.... Don't believe a word
Words can tell lies
And lies are no comfort
When there's tear in your eyes

I think thats how it went

I'm still sceptical about these two players though, I doubt they're coming here.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Just been checking a few sources... I think we are being optimistic with the talk on these two .. no substance as yet .. I dont think we have the profile for them, even with Ron in charge.. I hope my sources are wrong.. I will rub noses in it if we get these two but Im slightly sceptical..[/p][/quote]My sources? You sound like one of those numpties who pretend to be "official agents" on Twitter!. Shouldn't mention "my sources" unless you can name them because no one will believe you if don't name, names. Just saying :o)[/p][/quote]OMG You are right !! I immediately withdraw all reference to my sources. My sources are about as reliable as those found on mountain spring water bottles. I do however vigorously deny being a numpty but accept the charge is well meant. I plead not guilty. .... Don't believe a word Words can tell lies And lies are no comfort When there's tear in your eyes I think thats how it went I'm still sceptical about these two players though, I doubt they're coming here. Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

2:13pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Alicesdad says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves.

... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls.
Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely
Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Oh, wait a mo ...................

To the rumours, for me:
Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!)
Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.)
Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.)

Stressful week for us all!

A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave.
Most kind and very observant.
26 years commuting but only started using a tube regularly a month or so ago .. I'm a cross city walker by nature with a cab now and then thrown in.

As you can see I do "road rage", "tube rage, "my sources rage" and "rain rage" .... Rage Hard !!

Have a good afternoon y'all
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: These are indeed players of top quality. I'm unsure if we are still being used by agents as a means of upping the bids but I would be pleased with either or both of these. At least Ron is in the game though and making the right moves. ... and onto other important business.. its still pi$$ing down with rain in London and I left my brolly on the train.. I had to start using the tube recently and I don't like it much. I miss my walk to the office and travelling underground with sweaty office workers does not lift my mood. I've even started reading one of these new fangled Kindle thingies instead of freeby papers or playing Candy Crush. We intellectuals are such driven souls. Yes I know it's not about football but there are regulars on here who need to be kept updated as to my wellbeing. Harmony, fraternity and regularity of the bowels, it makes the world tick nicely[/p][/quote]Having spent 5 years commuting to London, AD, it's hard to feel sorry for you. Especially when you bear in mind the bloke on another thread who told us this terrible tale of how he took an age trying to park his car at West Quay and got overtaken by some plonker in the yellow box lines. He's the one I feel sorry for. Oh, wait a mo ................... To the rumours, for me: Clasie and Alderweireld - yes. (But the pessimist in me can't see either happening - hope I'm wrong!) Townsend - no. (He seems good at injuries but poor at crossing, would rather see Isgrove and Rowe gradually brought through.) Cerci - no idea. (Sounds promising, but I remember saying that about some other bloke who was scoring for fun in Italy.) Stressful week for us all! A bad few days for me would be if our only business saw Townsend arrive and Morgan leave.[/p][/quote]Most kind and very observant. 26 years commuting but only started using a tube regularly a month or so ago .. I'm a cross city walker by nature with a cab now and then thrown in. As you can see I do "road rage", "tube rage, "my sources rage" and "rain rage" .... Rage Hard !! Have a good afternoon y'all Alicesdad
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3:54pm Tue 26 Aug 14

elvis says...

SaintJD wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :)
Can we please just not do any business with the Spuds please .... so far this morning I have read that they are angry , exasperated,furious & frustrated over are refusal to sell them Spyder for peanuts ....their arrogance is unbelievable . Two wins from two & the Muppets seriously believe they'll win the league .
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Yes, and when he visited St Mary's last season he dreamt that one day he could play here every week :)[/p][/quote]Can we please just not do any business with the Spuds please .... so far this morning I have read that they are angry , exasperated,furious & frustrated over are refusal to sell them Spyder for peanuts ....their arrogance is unbelievable . Two wins from two & the Muppets seriously believe they'll win the league . elvis
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4:12pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Move on, he's interested in one of the SKY Rovers clubs and they're interested in him.
Move on, he's interested in one of the SKY Rovers clubs and they're interested in him. Harold K Steptoe
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4:38pm Tue 26 Aug 14

SaintJD says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
FortWorth_Saint wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports.

The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium.

Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.
Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means.

Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.
Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?
Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa.

Just a thought.
Is Ron Vlaar actually any better than what we now have? Yes, he had a pretty good World Cup (although this may have been overstated by the TV pundits, who were clearly very impressed by his "Roncrete" / "Concrete Ron" nickname and wanted to use it as often as possible), but he was part of a pretty good side which managed to mask a few of his shortcomings in the positional sense department. The best defenders rarely make spectacular last-ditch challenges because they rarely allow themselves to be caught out to the extent that such a challenge is necessary.
I think he's a good player, although if he was that good LVG would have been in for him immediately on the cheap. His age also counts against him because after a three-year deal he'd have no real sell-on value.

However, he and Senderos just go to show that it's not so much the individual as the partnership that matters when it comes to centre halves. They seem to be a good combination.

Senderos has looked pretty dire at most clubs he's been at, but he and Djourou (who hasn't set the world alight himself) have been rock solid for Belgium.

I remember Claus was similar for us - looked pretty prone to errors until Svennson joined, but the two of them were a class partnership.

Let's hope Fonte and Florin are similar.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FortWorth_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Tottenham Hotspur are still refusing to negotiate a deal for Andros Townsend after Southampton rejected their move to sign Morgan Schneiderlin, putting the English winger’s career in jeopardy, The Guardian reports. The 23-year-old believes that his place in the squad under Mauricio Pochettino will be quite limited and is said to be open over a potential move to the St Mary’s Stadium. Seems Townsend is keen to come here after all - not sure about this one. It also seems he's keen to branch out and be something other than just a winger as he feels he can play up front too - interesting.[/p][/quote]Good. Although I think they are just trying to up the price because I can't really see why they'd want to keep him if a club is offering £10M - he's not worth that by any means. Heartening to see us linked with defenders and central strikers though as these are the two weakest areas of the squad by far and the two areas where we could look very short with the odd injury.[/p][/quote]Can somebody please get in touch with young Andros and tell him the phrase Mercenario wants to hear is "My head is already at St Mary's"?[/p][/quote]Is it possible that Southampton might buy Townsend and loan Schneiderlin for the season? He is a professional (with one little hick-up), really wants out and would not be able to play against us. We could then get Ron Vlaar from Aston Villa. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]Is Ron Vlaar actually any better than what we now have? Yes, he had a pretty good World Cup (although this may have been overstated by the TV pundits, who were clearly very impressed by his "Roncrete" / "Concrete Ron" nickname and wanted to use it as often as possible), but he was part of a pretty good side which managed to mask a few of his shortcomings in the positional sense department. The best defenders rarely make spectacular last-ditch challenges because they rarely allow themselves to be caught out to the extent that such a challenge is necessary.[/p][/quote]I think he's a good player, although if he was that good LVG would have been in for him immediately on the cheap. His age also counts against him because after a three-year deal he'd have no real sell-on value. However, he and Senderos just go to show that it's not so much the individual as the partnership that matters when it comes to centre halves. They seem to be a good combination. Senderos has looked pretty dire at most clubs he's been at, but he and Djourou (who hasn't set the world alight himself) have been rock solid for Belgium. I remember Claus was similar for us - looked pretty prone to errors until Svennson joined, but the two of them were a class partnership. Let's hope Fonte and Florin are similar. SaintJD
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4:53pm Tue 26 Aug 14

saintbobby says...

Talking of Saints' mid-fielders, one from the past stays in my mind and that was Michael Svensson. If my memory serves, we lost him to injury for a long spell and the team got relegated that season.

Always thought this injury contributed hugely to our demise.
Talking of Saints' mid-fielders, one from the past stays in my mind and that was Michael Svensson. If my memory serves, we lost him to injury for a long spell and the team got relegated that season. Always thought this injury contributed hugely to our demise. saintbobby
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5:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

saintbobby wrote:
Talking of Saints' mid-fielders, one from the past stays in my mind and that was Michael Svensson. If my memory serves, we lost him to injury for a long spell and the team got relegated that season.

Always thought this injury contributed hugely to our demise.
He was one of our CB's -nicknamed Killer. Never really recovered from his injuries and his problems coincided with several other serious injuries to key players that season and it started the slide downhill. Up to that point Saints had the meanest and most successful defence in the league. I think you might be getting him a little mixed up with another Swede we had by the name of Anders Svensson who played in MF. Still playing in Sweden and I think still playing in the Swedish national team (not sure on that one) Both of them were great buys and gave great service though Killer's career ended years before it deserved to.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Talking of Saints' mid-fielders, one from the past stays in my mind and that was Michael Svensson. If my memory serves, we lost him to injury for a long spell and the team got relegated that season. Always thought this injury contributed hugely to our demise.[/p][/quote]He was one of our CB's -nicknamed Killer. Never really recovered from his injuries and his problems coincided with several other serious injuries to key players that season and it started the slide downhill. Up to that point Saints had the meanest and most successful defence in the league. I think you might be getting him a little mixed up with another Swede we had by the name of Anders Svensson who played in MF. Still playing in Sweden and I think still playing in the Swedish national team (not sure on that one) Both of them were great buys and gave great service though Killer's career ended years before it deserved to. jls217
  • Score: 2

5:32pm Tue 26 Aug 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke.

The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci.
27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature.
Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists.
According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward.
Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot.
For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal.
Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million
Is a one-in-four 'in the hole' striker really what we're missing? I think we've already paid £12M for one of those and Gaston, Taider and Tadic can play that role.

His assist record is good, but again I think we're fine in terms of creating chances both in terms of flair players and those that can whip in a cross, it's finishing them we struggle with.

Surely if we are looking to spend that sort of money we should be looking at more of a big, strong and pacey target man to give Pelle some competition?

And I still think, if we are looking for a creative attack option Ben Arfa is sitting there waiting to be snapped up on the cheap or on loan.
Just a little better than 1 in 3 actually for both goals and assists. Now if we had a couple more who could match that with the occasional one from defence and MF we wouldn't be doing so badly.

A ratio of 1 every 3 is not to be dismissed lightly. Unfortunately I doubt we'll be getting him anyway so it's a moot point.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: He naturally prefers Arsenal but if the Gooners get Welbeck (and it seems they are keen) It may be the asking price will scare us off but an offer (cheeky one?) is on the table, we may be in with a sniff of this bloke. The top story on Italian daily Tuttosport’s front page on Tuesday in a two-way Premier League battle between Arsenal and Southampton for Torino striker Alessio Cerci. 27-year-old Cerci has been tipped to leave Torino throughout the summer, and until recently AC Milan had seemed to be the favourites to bag his signature. Now, however, Milan appear to have dropped out of the race for the Toro attacker, who last season made 38 appearances in all competitions, scoring 13 goals and adding 13 assists. According to Tuttosport, Southampton are ready to make their move for Cerci offering €12 million for the forward. Arsenal, though, are also said to be circling the forward (who likes to be deployed in the false nine role), particularly in the wake of news that Olivier Giroud is set for three months on the Gunners sidelines with a broken foot. For what it’s worth, Tuttosport make it clear that Cerci would prefer to move to Arsenal. Torino meanwhile are looking to sell their star player for €18 million[/p][/quote]Is a one-in-four 'in the hole' striker really what we're missing? I think we've already paid £12M for one of those and Gaston, Taider and Tadic can play that role. His assist record is good, but again I think we're fine in terms of creating chances both in terms of flair players and those that can whip in a cross, it's finishing them we struggle with. Surely if we are looking to spend that sort of money we should be looking at more of a big, strong and pacey target man to give Pelle some competition? And I still think, if we are looking for a creative attack option Ben Arfa is sitting there waiting to be snapped up on the cheap or on loan.[/p][/quote]Just a little better than 1 in 3 actually for both goals and assists. Now if we had a couple more who could match that with the occasional one from defence and MF we wouldn't be doing so badly. A ratio of 1 every 3 is not to be dismissed lightly. Unfortunately I doubt we'll be getting him anyway so it's a moot point. jls217
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5:43pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

saint Compo wrote:
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
I wonder where his head was last night
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR[/p][/quote]I wonder where his head was last night Folkestone Saint
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6:15pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Chapperall says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
saint Compo wrote:
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
I wonder where his head was last night
Probably still singing you'll never walk alone! It made me gag when I saw him cuddling the other Liverpool players. Talk about put it on for the cameras. Still he got found out and just proves he's not as good as he thinks he is
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR[/p][/quote]I wonder where his head was last night[/p][/quote]Probably still singing you'll never walk alone! It made me gag when I saw him cuddling the other Liverpool players. Talk about put it on for the cameras. Still he got found out and just proves he's not as good as he thinks he is Chapperall
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6:32pm Tue 26 Aug 14

fascia123 says...

Chapperall wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
saint Compo wrote:
After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back.

COYR
I wonder where his head was last night
Probably still singing you'll never walk alone! It made me gag when I saw him cuddling the other Liverpool players. Talk about put it on for the cameras. Still he got found out and just proves he's not as good as he thinks he is
Made me cringe, and he got a few not to complimentary words from Carragher and Neville for his poor defending.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: After Lovren's weak performance at Man City last night, maybe we should offer Liverhampton £6 million to take him back. COYR[/p][/quote]I wonder where his head was last night[/p][/quote]Probably still singing you'll never walk alone! It made me gag when I saw him cuddling the other Liverpool players. Talk about put it on for the cameras. Still he got found out and just proves he's not as good as he thinks he is[/p][/quote]Made me cringe, and he got a few not to complimentary words from Carragher and Neville for his poor defending. fascia123
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