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Gorman delighted with Saints' display in defeat
6:38am Wednesday 30th January 2008
Comments (63)John Gorman declared himself proud of his side despite losing 1-0 to Norwich at St Mary's last night.
On the face of it, a sixth home defeat of the season might not seem like much to be proud of.
But Saints put in a very good display and were actually applauded off the pitch at the end.
Playing an adventurous 4-3-3 formation, they played some good stuff, hit the woodwork three times and missed their second penalty in successive games.
The caretaker manager said: "We put in an excellent performance.
"Their players and manager said what a wonderful performance we put in.
"They think they got away with a little bit of, not daylight robbery, but getting the break.
"The goal took a deflection but it was a great strike and their only real opportunity in open play was that.
"(Football board director) Lawrie McMenemy came down and said the fans really enjoyed the football.
"We tried a new system and the lads really took it on board and did great for the first time we did it."
Gorman added: "The chairman (Leon Crouch) came down and said we didn't lose the game, it was stolen from us.
"He was delighted with the performance and the effort the lads put in.
"I'm enjoying it and loving the chance to express ourselves, we're not going behind George's back with the type of football.
"Jason (Dodd, fellow caretaker) said it was the kind of football Southampton used to play.
"That's what the fans want to see."
Full story: see today's Daily Echo.
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dapper, southampton says...
7:40am Wed 30 Jan 08
Keep Smiling, says...
7:43am Wed 30 Jan 08
Shame we lost, but well played all the same Saints.
Oli Macleod, says...
8:01am Wed 30 Jan 08
Ali, Mansbridge says...
8:16am Wed 30 Jan 08
Enjoyed the game for the first time in ages.
Passion, commitment and constant running.
If we carry on playin like that we are going to win a hell of a lot more than we lose.
Norwich must be pinching themselves with that.
Keep that ethos Saints.
Manimal, Southampton says...
8:17am Wed 30 Jan 08
Ben, Southampton says...
8:24am Wed 30 Jan 08
One final point. Saturday they reduced the ticket prices to £15 and got £25k. Last night there was 18,000 there and no atmosphere. Think about it Saints and knock the prices down to attract people otherwise attendances are going to continue to head South!!
Muggers, So'ton says...
8:27am Wed 30 Jan 08
For me it was a great display, full of good passing, movement and effort. Just a shame we couldn't convert any of the chances!
saintsfan12, says...
8:34am Wed 30 Jan 08
George Burley, Scotland says...
8:38am Wed 30 Jan 08
Steve, says...
8:38am Wed 30 Jan 08
Levelhead, Wantage says...
8:39am Wed 30 Jan 08
Last night was the first game I have enjoyed all season, keep playing the same way and results will come. To me emphasised the fact that GB had lost the plot and the players.
Martin Orford, says...
8:56am Wed 30 Jan 08
Mike, Soton says...
9:08am Wed 30 Jan 08
Yes the game and tactics were interesting and different but sorry Wright -Phillips is not the answer as I would have thought was clear by now.Surman is not a Central Midfielder wether he thinks so or not so thank goodness Safri is back soon! I for one hope Viafara is not sold as we need him alogside Safri in the middle with Hamill & Surman down the flanks! I also believe McGoldrick deserves a chance up front as he seems to score for the reserves but for whatever reason hasnt been given an oppurtunity.
Come on Saints get things sorted as yes it was better last night but please dont be fooled by the enormous cracks that performance & the club are trying to paper over!
Phil, Soton says...
9:15am Wed 30 Jan 08
Ben wrote:So what are Saints supposed to do, Give the Season ticket holders some money back ? As if you start knowcking the on the day prices down you then devalue the season tickets for those fans who pay up front and come every game.
I'm sorry, am I missing something here!? We lost at home to a 3rd rate side and people are happy with the way we played? Yes we hit the woodwork 3 times but the amount of wayward passes, wayward shots (not including the "Lovejoy" penalty which gave a small child in row FF a nose bleed!) and the lack of creation was as worrying as ever. We need a manager and shake up immediately as there are still to many poor performances (from the same players). One final point. Saturday they reduced the ticket prices to £15 and got £25k. Last night there was 18,000 there and no atmosphere. Think about it Saints and knock the prices down to attract people otherwise attendances are going to continue to head South!!
You have to realise they can't do that and expect people to buy them next year !
As for last nights performance, it was shocking... can't take a penalty, can't hit a shot on goal. BWP should be sold A.S.A.P as he was tired after 15 minutes and just couldn't be bothered, and although John was our best striker all night, that doesn't say much !
Saint Happy,, Happyville says...
9:18am Wed 30 Jan 08
If ever a Score-line never told the Story!!!
What a great performance by each and every player last night, and the one that stood out for me was Skacel on the left and Thomas.
Never before under Burley, have I seen such a committed performance with pace, passing, tracking back and tackles going in.
And the most joy out of it? WE PLAYED FOR 90MINS!!!!!!!
Those of you who never went to the game have commented on here about rubbish, that proves that you never went to the game.
Chants of 1-0 to the Referee have never been used before so accurately!!
Davies should be Captain, and even be looked at for England, how we have picked up a bargain and someone who's value must be near 7-10million in the time he has been with us.
If this is the way we are going to perform, then keep Doddy and Gorman until we find a Manager that can give the fans what we had last night.
Alright we lost, but Norwich who yes we should batter, which we did in terms of football played, are on a 10 game unbeaten run (cant be that bad).
We hit the post countless times and should have won by a Cricket score, and some might say well we didnt score, but that was all it was that stopped us, a post and a referee. The only down-side was John missing a penalty, but Rasiak missed Saturday, Euell missed weeks ago (all in the same end) and so John put his name on it.
End of the day, ive never been so happy about a performance and spending money on a game we lost. YOU DID US PROUD LADS!!
Bo Bedre, eu says...
9:19am Wed 30 Jan 08
Bo Bedre, EU says...
9:21am Wed 30 Jan 08
realist, says...
9:23am Wed 30 Jan 08
Steve wrote:yeah and if we really try hard we can hit the bottom three before the end of the season .....
At least we've consolidated our position in the bottom half of the table now.
On Behalf of the Football League, says...
9:25am Wed 30 Jan 08
Aaron., East Boldre. says...
9:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
saintsfan12 wrote:What's the point of playing well if you don't take your chances? I'd be happier with a scrappy game and 3 points, than a pretty passing game and 0 points. Points move you up the table, NOT pretty performances!!
All you guys saying it was utter rubbish, stop looking at the score and look at what actually happened...for the first time in ages the saints played the flowing attacking football that we need to play, so what is we didnt finish any of our chances, if we play like that again i think we will finish a few more
Jamie, Southampton says...
9:37am Wed 30 Jan 08
We lost yes, but we should of lost to Bury when we were poor, so what would people want our win to be replaced with a loss and our loss replaced with a win, so effecively we go out of the cup and are embarassed, and get 3 points in the league which will actually get people excited about getting into the playoffs, then realise aftrer a few games that we wouldn't actually get there any way.
So basically dreamers, stop dreaming, this season is a season to be pleased about our cup success and realise that George left too late for us to stand any chance of getting promoted. So everyone who still isn't happy about losing to crap like Norwich then just don't bother supporting the Saints no more
RED AND WHITE MAN, says...
9:44am Wed 30 Jan 08
Jamie wrote:Are you happy that we lost last night, then? We're just above the relegation zone, and you think that we should be pleased about that?!
I thought we played really well last night, and it was the first time I actually felt as though I was entertained. We lost yes, but we should of lost to Bury when we were poor, so what would people want our win to be replaced with a loss and our loss replaced with a win, so effecively we go out of the cup and are embarassed, and get 3 points in the league which will actually get people excited about getting into the playoffs, then realise aftrer a few games that we wouldn't actually get there any way. So basically dreamers, stop dreaming, this season is a season to be pleased about our cup success and realise that George left too late for us to stand any chance of getting promoted. So everyone who still isn't happy about losing to crap like Norwich then just don't bother supporting the Saints no more
Kate, Andover says...
9:45am Wed 30 Jan 08
I've been surprised to see the support for the team and the proudness of the fans even though we lost. Apart from BWP, I think everyone was up for that game last night. It hurts that we still lost and dropped a place in the league but I think the performance showed that there is life after George Burley and I'm starting to see the real chance of a push up the table if we keep playing like that.
Having said that, I'm still wondering if I'd like to have seen a bad performance and get the 3 points - there doesn't seem to be any way of us playing well AND getting the 3 points at the moment.
But I'm sure that will change - COYR!!! Back on track for Saturday please!!
Hank, says...
9:45am Wed 30 Jan 08
R.I.P Southampton Football Club.
Keep Smiling, says...
10:19am Wed 30 Jan 08
Aaron. wrote:The point is... at least it ENTERTAINS the fans. If you want to watch a team that wins every week, go and watch Man Utd.
saintsfan12 wrote: All you guys saying it was utter rubbish, stop looking at the score and look at what actually happened...for the first time in ages the saints played the flowing attacking football that we need to play, so what is we didnt finish any of our chances, if we play like that again i think we will finish a few moreWhat's the point of playing well if you don't take your chances? I'd be happier with a scrappy game and 3 points, than a pretty passing game and 0 points. Points move you up the table, NOT pretty performances!!
After half a season of boring, passionless football, it was nice to see some action, some enthusiasm and some passion from the side.
No Saints fan is dancing in the street after a defeat, but if you can't take some positives from an improved performance and attitude and being entertained, then you really are missing the point of going to football in the first place.
Keep Smiling, says...
10:21am Wed 30 Jan 08
Hank wrote:Sounds like you are a loser as only a loser takes nothing positive from a situation.
Oh well, everybody is happy at losing at home to Norwich. If we carry on with this "loser" attitude, we'll be losing at home to MK Dons next season. R.I.P Southampton Football Club.
james, southampton says...
10:30am Wed 30 Jan 08
Saint 4 Life, Southampton says...
10:36am Wed 30 Jan 08
EMJ, FARNBOROP says...
11:10am Wed 30 Jan 08
Keep Smiling, says...
11:32am Wed 30 Jan 08
Hank, says...
12:10pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Keep Smiling wrote:"Taking positives from a game" seems to be a very overused catchphrase these days.
Hank wrote: Oh well, everybody is happy at losing at home to Norwich. If we carry on with this \"loser\" attitude, we\'ll be losing at home to MK Dons next season. R.I.P Southampton Football Club.Sounds like you are a loser as only a loser takes nothing positive from a situation.
If you are happy to see your team lose, thats up to you, me, I want them to win. Win ugly or win nice, but WIN.
Playing pretty football and losing can become habitual, look at Nottingham Forest
Jamie, Thornhill, Southmpton says...
12:22pm Wed 30 Jan 08
RED AND WHITE MAN wrote:The problem is with some Saints fans is that they believe that we are still a Premiership side and have premiership players, which is wrong we are not! It comes accross sobish, like we're Southampton fc we should be better, we are not live with it. Look at the demise of teams like Sheff Wednesday and Leeds, they may be on the up now but it's taken time, and in some way they have always been seen as bigger and better clubs than us, for example we have never won a European cup.
Jamie wrote: I thought we played really well last night, and it was the first time I actually felt as though I was entertained. We lost yes, but we should of lost to Bury when we were poor, so what would people want our win to be replaced with a loss and our loss replaced with a win, so effecively we go out of the cup and are embarassed, and get 3 points in the league which will actually get people excited about getting into the playoffs, then realise aftrer a few games that we wouldn\'t actually get there any way. So basically dreamers, stop dreaming, this season is a season to be pleased about our cup success and realise that George left too late for us to stand any chance of getting promoted. So everyone who still isn\'t happy about losing to crap like Norwich then just don\'t bother supporting the Saints no moreAre you happy that we lost last night, then? We\'re just above the relegation zone, and you think that we should be pleased about that?!
So no I'm not happy that we are near the relegation zone but just because we lost last night, it doesn't mean that, we should be really that disapointed, the team played how we have been asking them to play all season, yet they lose and somehow it's the players fault, or Gormans or Dodds fault, no it's not it's just merly them doing what we have asked.
Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
12:37pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Keep Smiling wrote:YES WE PLAYED WELL.....NOW WE CAN PLAY IN THE CONFERENCE AND BE HAPPY BECAUSE WE PLAY WELL.
Hank wrote:Sounds like you are a loser as only a loser takes nothing positive from a situation.
Oh well, everybody is happy at losing at home to Norwich. If we carry on with this "loser" attitude, we'll be losing at home to MK Dons next season. R.I.P Southampton Football Club.
WOO HOO WE PLAY WELL
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
12:56pm Wed 30 Jan 08
dapper wrote:Jimmy Case? Surely you mean NUT CASE!
If this is how we can play without burley,its a shame it took so long to get rid of HIM !. JIMMY CASE FOR MANAGER !
If you're happy when your losing, clap your hands!
G W S!
shirleymush, Shirley says...
1:00pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Steve, says...
1:02pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Keep Smiling wrote:you could also agrue that only a loser would take something positive out of losing
Hank wrote: Oh well, everybody is happy at losing at home to Norwich. If we carry on with this "loser" attitude, we'll be losing at home to MK Dons next season. R.I.P Southampton Football Club.Sounds like you are a loser as only a loser takes nothing positive from a situation.
this board have no idea, idiotville says...
1:08pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Rich, London says...
1:17pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Aaron. wrote:You dont get it do you? Winning after playing poorly (Bury, Scunthorpe etc) is fine with me too but guess what - playing poorly all the time usually means you get nothing and its not a recipe for success. Playing well and losing is very frustrating but guess what - play well regularly and you will get plenty of points. Simple stuff of course but a few - thankfully the minority on here - seem to be off with the fairies
saintsfan12 wrote: All you guys saying it was utter rubbish, stop looking at the score and look at what actually happened...for the first time in ages the saints played the flowing attacking football that we need to play, so what is we didnt finish any of our chances, if we play like that again i think we will finish a few moreWhat's the point of playing well if you don't take your chances? I'd be happier with a scrappy game and 3 points, than a pretty passing game and 0 points. Points move you up the table, NOT pretty performances!!
Gormans the man, hants says...
1:35pm Wed 30 Jan 08
On Behalf of the Football League wrote:ha ha
As the football league would never apologise for sending us yet another inept and incompetent referee I have decided to do so on their behalf. Here goes. Sorry for the buffoon we sent you last night. We did not realise that it was possible for one man to make so many errors of judgement and stupid mistakes in 90 minutes of football. We are sorry he did not award the other two penalties you should have had and we are understand your frustration at the incorrect award of free kicks following legitimate tackles by your players. We also regret that he managed to turn a blind eye to the shirt pulling, deliberate obstruction and follow through tackles by the opposition defence. We would like to reassure you that we will send you a decent referee for your next game but unfortunately as you will probably have realised by now there are no good referees in the Championship.
Spot on.
I say keep Gorman and Dodd. Why pick a bad manager? Wait until the summer when there will be more choice. Failing that - Gorman is as good as the names being thrown aaround and he knows the club. We played well last night. It will only take one goal to go in before we get a hat full. Stop being so negative, Burley has gone he was the problem.
Onwards and upwards
COYR!!
Steve Gibson, Southampton says...
1:39pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Thorshammer, Valhalla says...
1:43pm Wed 30 Jan 08
As for the players Vignal is solid but is not able to pass the ball over long distance, that is why clubs have let him go, Surman ran like he had a sack of spuds on his back, but he has done that all season. Skacel showed what he can do if he has a free role and why we paid all that money for him.
BWP needs coaching, as I have said before, He takes up bad positions and his shape is wrong when receiving the ball, please get his old man down for a few days.
If you feel hacked off imagine how the players feel after the effort they put in as a team to try and win that game last night?.
Well done to those who applauded the players they did deserve that at least.
COYR.
bp saint, bitterne park says...
1:50pm Wed 30 Jan 08
this board have no idea wrote:you're probably right about adams but it is possible that they might announce gorman and dodd as caretaker team for the next 3 or 4 weeks and then Coleman to come in after his holiday. this scenario seems more likely after hoos' comments about there being no rush...
leon crouch has called a press conference for tomoro. im not excited. its blatently gonna be micky adams. how dismally uninspiring. crouch you need to crawl back into the hole you came out of, youve had your 5 minutes of fame now go away now leave the club alone before you send us into administration and no doubt the third tier of english football. BRING BACK LOWE.
BB, Hampshire says...
2:05pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Martin Orford, says...
2:26pm Wed 30 Jan 08
shirleymush wrote:You speak for yourself. I just want to see goals and I couldn't care less how we get them.
John gorman is right- this is the type of football we want to see. So lets not appoint Micky Adams or Billy Davies eh?
Bring on the long ball and some crunching tackling!
Bryan Bridgwater, Courtice Ontario Canada says...
2:33pm Wed 30 Jan 08
After having read all the posts, sounds as though Saints put on a great show even though they undeservably lost so we can only hope this is the turning point and once Safri and Viafara return, things will continue to improve.
Maybe we should hold back on appointing a New Manager as long as Gorman and Dodsie can do the bizz and motivate the players. Good to see Raziak motivated this bodes well moving forward.
hampshire canary, hampshire says...
2:59pm Wed 30 Jan 08
St Mark, Northampton says...
3:53pm Wed 30 Jan 08
RED AND WHITE MAN wrote:Just above the relegation zone!!?? You are obviously a "Glass half empty" man cos we are also "just outside" the playoffs! That is not me being optimistic or pessimistic, just stating a fact.
Jamie wrote:Are you happy that we lost last night, then? We're just above the relegation zone, and you think that we should be pleased about that?!
I thought we played really well last night, and it was the first time I actually felt as though I was entertained. We lost yes, but we should of lost to Bury when we were poor, so what would people want our win to be replaced with a loss and our loss replaced with a win, so effecively we go out of the cup and are embarassed, and get 3 points in the league which will actually get people excited about getting into the playoffs, then realise aftrer a few games that we wouldn't actually get there any way. So basically dreamers, stop dreaming, this season is a season to be pleased about our cup success and realise that George left too late for us to stand any chance of getting promoted. So everyone who still isn't happy about losing to crap like Norwich then just don't bother supporting the Saints no more
We all know that this league can turn very quickly and whilst I concede that we are not going to get into the playoffs this season, I remain optimistic about the future.
Lee Hoos has said that we will not rush into appointing a new manager. Could this have anything to do with the fact that he has worked with Chris Coleman before and is possibly waiting for him to come back from holiday to take the job?
Murphy, Sandbanks says...
4:14pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Me Hat on Fire, Southampton General says...
4:20pm Wed 30 Jan 08
new Man sweeps clean and will want to bring in who they want as a right hand man.This will save Saints paying out more money to end current contracts.
saint anger, bored at college says...
4:36pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Ben wrote:I completely agree.
I\\\'m sorry, am I missing something here!? We lost at home to a 3rd rate side and people are happy with the way we played? Yes we hit the woodwork 3 times but the amount of wayward passes, wayward shots (not including the \\\"Lovejoy\\\" penalty which gave a small child in row FF a nose bleed!) and the lack of creation was as worrying as ever. We need a manager and shake up immediately as there are still to many poor performances (from the same players). One final point. Saturday they reduced the ticket prices to £15 and got £25k. Last night there was 18,000 there and no atmosphere. Think about it Saints and knock the prices down to attract people otherwise attendances are going to continue to head South!!
Of course im happy that we played better, as the one thing we need is a bit of passion in our football.
but for a "manager" to say he is pleased with a losing home performance... its a joke.
Clint, Totton says...
5:00pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Me Hat on Fire wrote:Quite agree - give it to them to the end of the season - if it goes well great, make it permanent, if not there'll be more choices on the market then.
Give it to Gorman and Doddy its the only option.A
new Man sweeps clean and will want to bring in who they want as a right hand man.This will save Saints paying out more money to end current contracts.
andy davis, hedge end says...
5:00pm Wed 30 Jan 08
butty, Le rice says...
5:10pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Some of our play is 1 paced and I think they are over coached and just going thru the motions. There is a fear factor in our game and the players appear to be afraid to express themselves when they play. Who ever is in charge should pick the best 11 players in their favoured positions and let them get on with it. As for the next manager only god knows, who wants to come to a club STILL on the way down?
Paddy Browne, Shropshire says...
5:29pm Wed 30 Jan 08
I wont comment on a game I've not seen for myself, but we can go either way now; win some and we might get to a play off slot if everyone above us loose; loose some and we're on our way to swapping places with Notts. Forest and Leeds Utd. in League One.
After supporting Saints for over twenty years, with the last two years driving down to St Mary's from Salop for every home game, I fear this may well be my last. Let's face it I "saved" over £30 in fuel costs last night!
true saint, home says...
6:41pm Wed 30 Jan 08
andy davis wrote:I think the point that they are trying to get across is that we should have that much pride/passion/spirit every game we play, not just once in a while.
There really are some small-minded "fans" on this site. Last night Saints gave everything they could and we will play a lot worse and win heavily. It was one of those nights but to slag off the manager and certain players only proves what a limited knowledge you have of football(Certain fans, i know). Gorman isnt pleased at losing, merely happy with the display given. What he said was spot on. Also its the first time this season at SMS that the fans were up for it so there must have been something in the performance to warrant the applause both at half tinme and full time. If this is a marker for future Saints games then we will be fine. For those "fans" who constantly arent happy, get behind your team and stop moaning. (Bet half of whingers dont actually go but heyho)
Hopefully with burley out then things will improve, and we'll start seeing some of the pride that i've always associated with southampton players, instead of players that look confused and bored all the time!
pete.bishop, beccles says...
7:34pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Northam soul, Harefield says...
7:48pm Wed 30 Jan 08
pete.bishop wrote:Ok then - we out sung you for the best part of the game (EVEN AFTER 90 MINS) " you only sing when your winning sing when your winning"
Well you so call saints fans,well where were you last night,apart from the two I saw sitting behind the goal the place was almost empty, good job we were there to show you lot how to sing. I fell abou laughing at the penalty shot thanks for the best and easiest 6 points we are now heading up to the play offs Long Live King Glenn
Nathan Jones, Pontypool South Wales says...
9:15pm Wed 30 Jan 08
I like John Gorman & Jason Dodd but i think in the best intrest of the club the board should bring in a permanent manager so that he can assess what players he has at the club and where he needs a change. I hope the new man is in by the QPR game as iam going down to cheer the boys on to comfortable win hopefully.
DJI, Berkshire says...
9:46pm Wed 30 Jan 08
It was hard to understand how we lost other than to say we missed out chances. But strikers need confidence to perform and last night was the start. Play like that at Palace and 3points are ours.
pugwash, southampton says...
10:35pm Wed 30 Jan 08
this board have no idea wrote:WELL SAID THAT MAN,WHAT ON EARTH HAVE CROUCH AND WILDE BOUGHT TO THE CLUB APART FROM FALSE HOPE AND PROMISES.ATLEAST RUPERT WAS STRAIGHT WITH THE FANS AND DID'N'T PROMISE ANYTHING WHICH COULD'N'T BE FULFILLED.WILDE AND CROUCH HAVE OBVIOUSLY BITTEN OFF MORE THAN THEY CAN CHEW AND GOT IN UNDER FALSE PRETENCES.
leon crouch has called a press conference for tomoro. im not excited. its blatently gonna be micky adams. how dismally uninspiring. crouch you need to crawl back into the hole you came out of, youve had your 5 minutes of fame now go away now leave the club alone before you send us into administration and no doubt the third tier of english football. BRING BACK LOWE.
Pete, Southampton says...
9:55am Thu 31 Jan 08
"We lost at home to a 3rd rate side"
"The Manager & Lawrie Mac are happy losing to Norwich then we are in a worse state than what I thought!"
It looks like there are some bitter fans fans suffering from dillusions of grandure! You say Norwich is a 3rd rate side, well they are now unbeaten for the last 10 league games.
At least the Norwich fans are not 3rd rate, 5 points clear at the bottom and we still sold out the stadium. While you are mid table and your own fans are complaining that "Last night there was 18,000 there and no atmosphere."
BREATHEASY, land of the loyal fans says...
10:10am Thu 31 Jan 08
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