CHEESLEY wrote:
What a mess?

John B wrote:

CHEESLEY wrote: What a mess?

BURLEY'S MISMANAGEMENT LOST US ANY CHANCE OF PROMOTION. THE BOARD ARE ONLY BEING REALISTIC REDUCING THE WAGE BILL AND HOPING TO RECEIVE SOME TRANSFER CASH IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALONG TIME AND SOME LUCK FOR US TO RETURN TO THE PREMIERSHIP AND IF WE DO IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL STAY FOR LONG. LETS JUST SUPPORT THE SAINTS AS A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND NOT BE ARGOGANT THINKING WE SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PREMIERSHIP. WE SHOULD NOT BE UNPLEASANT ABOUT POMPEY SOME OF THEIR SUPPORTERS WHO I KNOW ARE JUST LIKE US AND WANT THE BEST FOR THEIR TEAM. THEY HAVE HAD A WORSE TIME THAN US OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS

Sniper wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?

Saint Ash wrote:
Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR

sailor sam wrote:

Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR

1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!

Sniper wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?

sailor sam wrote:

Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR

1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!

Kate wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!!

Deano Bolton wrote:
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers

I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!

exeter saint wrote:
we still got viafara though who was the player i was really worried about loosing. Now maybe play him and safri in cm with hammill on the right and surman on the left.

Automan wrote:
As John Major would have said it's time to go back to basics. We've tried the big name foreign players and quite frankly it's not worked. If the youngsters are good then give them a chance. Lallana was good against Sheff W and was never seen again. Lancashire was courted by Liverpool- surely he's better than Powell. Maybe Gillet should be given a last chance too?

dave wrote:
LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE. GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!

Martin Orford wrote:
Skacel won't be missed - he was a massive under-achiever. But despite what the critics say Rasiak was the only class player left in the side. Just watch him score hatfuls of goals for Bolton - they don't bother with all that patient build-up nonsense like we do and he'll thrive in a more direct team. Should have cashed in on Surman instead - he's far too lightweight for the Championship. By letting Rasiak go the board have conceded that we won't be going anywhere in the league or the cup this season - what decent manager will want to work for that bunch of losers?

Deano Bolton wrote:

I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!

I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??

parky wrote:

Deano Bolton wrote:

I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!

I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??

Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago. Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom. your thoughts.

Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 10:42am today
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS?

When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club.

A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club.

Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League.

Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action.

Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England.

If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter.

Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example,
PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND.

If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money.

Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start!

THINK ABOUT IT!

BARRY THE KNUCKLE wrote:
WHO KEEPS REMOVING MY POSTS?
IT MAKES ME MAD, YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN IM MAD.
BET ITS SAILOR SAM'S EX BOYFREIND WHO MONITORS IT

Alan wrote:
Lets honestly look at the facts. I am a saints fan and i really dont know how people can come on here and say that we are better than pompey?? There is no way in the world we are, they can attract players like Defoe, Nugent, Glen Johnson, Utaka and we cant even get Daily or infact anyone. I think we all know what would happen if we played each other tomorrow wudnt we and it wouldnt be pretty for us!!!!!!! I think we just need to accept that we are now a second rate Championship club and unless we get a vast amount of Investment thats what we will always be!!!!!!!

Kate wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!!

Itchen Saint wrote:
Bolton Supported must be pleased getting Rasiak to replace Annelka I did not realise he was that good. Both player\\\'s want to go to Euro 2008 so they must have been pessurising Saints for a Transfer

Jason wrote:
On a positive note, it's good to see Dodd and Gorman seem to have a better understanding of our strongest team.

It was fairly obvious that, without Dyer available, we need BWP's pace, but he's not worth a striking place.

They recognised that and went for the three, with one tucking into midfield when needed, so fair play. Just depends whether Saga can now step up and convince us he's actually worth a place in that formation, but I'd like to think he'd be worth a decent run, which is more than he's had all season.

That gives me faith that Viafara and Safri will form our central partnership when fit, with Surman or Hammill slotting in on the wing and BWP on the other side.

Then there's Dyer to come back and McGoldrick to come in.

So actually, things don't look that bad as long as we don't have too many injuries at the back.

A new keeper would help though.

sailor sam wrote:
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be \'The gateway to the Empire\'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of \'the minimum wage\' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

Paddy Browne wrote:
It could've been a lot worse. However, it's good to see some of the fans starting to be realistic and not over-dosing too much on fantasy football! The league dosen't lie, we are in this position because we are. It's pointless balming Lowe for our present predicament, though I fear he lacked the leadership required to stand up to the more moronic of the fans and the inevitable back-stabbing by those who felt over-looked*. That happens in all organisations. But, that was then and this is now. We now have an opportunity to choose carefully managers who will firstly stop the rot, consolidate our position and then push ahead too see if we can regain a Premiership place. You will note I used the plural as I doubt if the Saint's could afford one capable of doing all three. I doubt if I shall be renewing my season ticket, not because of either its value or my loyalty, but because fuel is now over £1.00 a litre and it's over 400 miles round trip to every home game. * That surely must be the lowest point in our recent history and one which those who istigated it must surley be ashamed, (but I doubt it).

sailor sam wrote:
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

John B wrote:

Sniper wrote: Wazza wrote: \"I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same\" I won\'t until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?

Well we dont need fans like you We need support when we are down go and support Man U or Chelsea. The club has little or no money and is doing the best it can Realistically we are a mid table side and will be for some time

Kdog wrote:

sailor sam wrote: CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

So what is your excuse for sitting in front of a Saints based website for hours on end?

Mick wrote:

sailor sam wrote: CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be \'The gateway to the Empire\'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of \'the minimum wage\' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

Sailor sam actually makes a bit of sense, the club has no money, the players are crap, and the whole set up stinks,there is no way forward without investment and honest commitment.Where would that come from other than the supporters! and by the way I am a sfc supporter but also a realist

parky wrote:

Deano Bolton wrote:

I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!

I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??

Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago. Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom. your thoughts.

Paul Newell wrote:

John B wrote:

Sniper wrote: Wazza wrote: \"I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same\" I won\'t until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?

Well we dont need fans like you We need support when we are down go and support Man U or Chelsea. The club has little or no money and is doing the best it can Realistically we are a mid table side and will be for some time

YES, you seem to not like fans with a realistic view who have standards above your rock bottom standard, but do not let that bother you. Don't allow delusion to blur your vision!! I've not beed this season for that very reason, p*ssed off with being treated so poorly and p*ss poor football!! There is too much fence sitting and too many heads in the sand - do NOT berate those who aren't so cowardly! We all need realism, passion and ambition in our forlorn club! The club are not doing the best, under Burley and the dreaded Hone era (seizing power by appointing that complete ***** Oldknow, losing all the decent St Mary's staff & decent people behind the scenes) there was a plethora of poor decisions, whether it be the OTT physio laying half the squad off for 5x needs be, the goalie coach picking the line ups, Burley's inept man management and knowledge of his best 11 (did he ever know? Playing most out of position & lacking communication or defensive know-how), drinking accusations, unfit squad, good players dropped over alleged fallings out with management, players brought in and not played, any player showing form instantly sold, internal bickering & messing up the supposed initial takeover approach we had (which I believe due to various sources I, myself know)...SFC f*ck everything up!! The club 'have' treated the fans extremely poorly (Esp. while Hone and co were around, arrogance of the highest order, only in it for themselves) and the club don't deserve the attendances they have had. It's been insulting - the inane manager statements of the past and meaningless reports released to the press or any of the few inane news threads posted on the SFC site all paramount to a club in dire straits. A lot of work needs doing. I believe Crouch could be a man to take us forwards, if we can attain investment or some sort of financial backing. Wilde had helped us in no way whatsoever. I still believe if he put some money up, Crouch would have done the same but that's old news now. Let us have some passion on the field and sincerity & transparency from the club. Damage needs repairing but I do believe there is some potential if the elusive finances can be bolstered in some form along with good leadership, on the pitch AND in the boardroom - Saints need not be a club giving players and execs an easy life, at the expense of the fans It just needs effort, stop taking the p*ss out of our club!

phil wrote:

Mick wrote:

sailor sam wrote: CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be \'The gateway to the Empire\'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of \'the minimum wage\' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

Sailor sam actually makes a bit of sense, the club has no money, the players are crap, and the whole set up stinks,there is no way forward without investment and honest commitment.Where would that come from other than the supporters! and by the way I am a sfc supporter but also a realist

Sam didnt i read last week that your sugar daddy owner is putting your club and the shed they play in up for sale, how many will put their hands in their pockets for that do you think. Dark days ahead both sides of the water me thinks.

Deano Bolton wrote:
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers

Aaron wrote:

Deano Bolton wrote: How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers

Rasiak knows where the goal is, but he's a lazy fukcer. He couldn't do it in the Premiership when he was at Spurs, but who knows. He might work a bit harder if his place in the Polish squad is in jeopardy, but don't count on it!

good deal for bolton wrote:

Aaron wrote:

Deano Bolton wrote: How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers

Rasiak knows where the goal is, but he's a lazy fukcer. He couldn't do it in the Premiership when he was at Spurs, but who knows. He might work a bit harder if his place in the Polish squad is in jeopardy, but don't count on it!

didn't get enough games at spurs - when given a run he'll score

Aaron wrote:

good deal for bolton wrote:

Aaron wrote:

Deano Bolton wrote: How\'s it goin guys, I\'m a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers

Rasiak knows where the goal is, but he\'s a lazy fukcer. He couldn\'t do it in the Premiership when he was at Spurs, but who knows. He might work a bit harder if his place in the Polish squad is in jeopardy, but don\'t count on it!

didn\'t get enough games at spurs - when given a run he\'ll score

Maybe they realised he wasn\'t good enough for the Premiership?!

sailor sam wrote:

Kdog wrote:

sailor sam wrote: CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

So what is your excuse for sitting in front of a Saints based website for hours on end?

I have been out in the sunshine. Been to the shops etc. Just thought I would I would check on response to my suggestion. As I thought, only Mick (at 12.30) had a positive response. The rest? Probably including you! Want something done! Want money spent! Want someone to buy your club! Want investment! Want new players! BUT WANT IT ALL DONE BY SOMEONE ELSE! If something is worth fighting for, you have to get together and do something yourselves, rather than wait for someone to come along and do it for you. To make things happen you have to make it happen, not wait until it is to late, and then moan because someone else didn't do anything. So Kdog, what do YOU intend to do? If I were a betting man, my money would go on NOTHING!

Saint Paul wrote:
Why don't they just wave a white flag over St Mary's now, as it seems those in charge have given up. We have a great chance of reaching the quater finals in the FA Cup, and an outside chance of making the playoffs. So what do we go and do? Sell two of the best footballing players we've got. Some fans moan about their work rate. Well maybe a new manager could of got in there and motivated them. I know some people prefer headless chickens to players like Skacel who've got a bit of skill. I'm surprised the board didn't completely throw the towel in and sell Surman.

John B wrote:

dave wrote: LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE. GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!

Nothing to do with the players or managers then

Wazza wrote:

Paul Newell wrote:

John B wrote:

Sniper wrote: Wazza wrote: \\\"I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same\\\" I won\\\'t until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?

Well we dont need fans like you We need support when we are down go and support Man U or Chelsea. The club has little or no money and is doing the best it can Realistically we are a mid table side and will be for some time

YES, you seem to not like fans with a realistic view who have standards above your rock bottom standard, but do not let that bother you. Don\'t allow delusion to blur your vision!! I\'ve not beed this season for that very reason, p*ssed off with being treated so poorly and p*ss poor football!! There is too much fence sitting and too many heads in the sand - do NOT berate those who aren\'t so cowardly! We all need realism, passion and ambition in our forlorn club! The club are not doing the best, under Burley and the dreaded Hone era (seizing power by appointing that complete ***** Oldknow, losing all the decent St Mary\'s staff & decent people behind the scenes) there was a plethora of poor decisions, whether it be the OTT physio laying half the squad off for 5x needs be, the goalie coach picking the line ups, Burley\'s inept man management and knowledge of his best 11 (did he ever know? Playing most out of position & lacking communication or defensive know-how), drinking accusations, unfit squad, good players dropped over alleged fallings out with management, players brought in and not played, any player showing form instantly sold, internal bickering & messing up the supposed initial takeover approach we had (which I believe due to various sources I, myself know)...SFC f*ck everything up!! The club \'have\' treated the fans extremely poorly (Esp. while Hone and co were around, arrogance of the highest order, only in it for themselves) and the club don\'t deserve the attendances they have had. It\'s been insulting - the inane manager statements of the past and meaningless reports released to the press or any of the few inane news threads posted on the SFC site all paramount to a club in dire straits. A lot of work needs doing. I believe Crouch could be a man to take us forwards, if we can attain investment or some sort of financial backing. Wilde had helped us in no way whatsoever. I still believe if he put some money up, Crouch would have done the same but that\'s old news now. Let us have some passion on the field and sincerity & transparency from the club. Damage needs repairing but I do believe there is some potential if the elusive finances can be bolstered in some form along with good leadership, on the pitch AND in the boardroom - Saints need not be a club giving players and execs an easy life, at the expense of the fans It just needs effort, stop taking the p*ss out of our club!

I will still get my season ticket. You seem to think that because I will continue to support the club through this lean period (through attendance and an extra season ticket sale) and you will not support the team through this lean period (through attendance and an extra season ticket sale) that I have many flaws. I can assure you - I am not deluded. I have a realistic view - we\'re crap - I will still part with my heard earned cash. I am not on a fence, we\'re crap and the SFC panto has been an embarrassment of late. My head is not in the sand. I am passionate about the club. Your post is embarrassing! I am aware things are pi$$ poor but the club are still getting my £s regardless. If all of our fair weather fans hadn\'t disappeared so easily, our money problems wouldn\'t be nearly so bad. What are you going to do? Not attend in protest and watch our club go into oblivion and say \'I told you so\' ?!?!??!? Pat on the back to you. I will keep buying a season ticket even if we reached league 2!!! Support your team in the face of adversity.

mullingar wrote:
Yesterday just proves that we are definately in the cr*p! We need every penny we can find and I have a feeling that we will not be appointing a new manager this season - it looks like Gorman and Dodd will be in charge until the end of the season and who knows, maybe next season as well! The compen for Burley from the SFA will have been banked, never to be touched! Time for some realism - the dark days are not going away and we are in it for some time to come. Positive note to finish - if we play the rest of season like we played on Tuesday night against Norwich, then Gorman will do for me in these worrying times. COYRs!!

dave wrote:

John B wrote:

dave wrote: LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE. GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!

Nothing to do with the players or managers then

Who was it that appointed Wigley and RedCrap? Who was it that brought in his rugger mate? Lowe was a disaster and is the reason we were relegated!

Calm down wrote:
this is great news! it now means we can afford chris coleman and his no. 2 personally i think chris coleman would be more influential then rasiaks refusal to jump like a normal centre forward and skacels refusal to put in a half decent cross. if chris coleman comes saints that would be a more inviting package for an investor rather than micky adams (failed at every club) come on saints fans lets get behind this decision and unite for chris coleman!

Dave wrote:
I hope we get you lot in the next round of the cup, you can then watch some decent football as we smash your team to pieces. You could even keep the TV money to pay off some of your debt, i'm sure Sacha wouldn't mind.

Shaun Tew wrote:

mullingar wrote: Yesterday just proves that we are definately in the cr*p! We need every penny we can find and I have a feeling that we will not be appointing a new manager this season - it looks like Gorman and Dodd will be in charge until the end of the season and who knows, maybe next season as well! The compen for Burley from the SFA will have been banked, never to be touched! Time for some realism - the dark days are not going away and we are in it for some time to come. Positive note to finish - if we play the rest of season like we played on Tuesday night against Norwich, then Gorman will do for me in these worrying times. COYRs!!

Not sure what match you watched on Tuesday night just to remind you that WE LOST. What I witnessed was 2 very ordinary sides both only a shadow of the teams who played each other less than 3 years ago in the Prem. So if we stick with the comedy duo we can expect more of the same can we... here comes league 1... maybe at the end of this season. We have a club run by idiots for idiots me included for stupidly renewing my season ticket this season.... dear oh dear oh dear...

sailor sam wrote:

Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR

1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!

mark henry wrote:
we're both crap teams in hampshire

Laughing all the way to Europe wrote:

phil wrote:

Mick wrote:

sailor sam wrote: CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be \'The gateway to the Empire\'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of \'the minimum wage\' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!

Sailor sam actually makes a bit of sense, the club has no money, the players are crap, and the whole set up stinks,there is no way forward without investment and honest commitment.Where would that come from other than the supporters! and by the way I am a sfc supporter but also a realist

Sam didnt i read last week that your sugar daddy owner is putting your club and the shed they play in up for sale, how many will put their hands in their pockets for that do you think. Dark days ahead both sides of the water me thinks.

Keep telling yourself that all the way to league one phil! It really looks dark for the blues with Defoe and Baros coming in to boost the already high quality squad. Europe here we come, Yeovil and Gillingham for you lot! Wahoo!

Dave wrote:
I hope we get you lot in the next round of the cup, you can then watch some decent football as we smash your team to pieces. You could even keep the TV money to pay off some of your debt, i'm sure Sacha wouldn't mind.

princey boy wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let\'s look at
it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4
million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his
potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves.
6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is
still the ugliest manager in football. COYR

1) Chicken feed. 2)
Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops
fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been
paid? 6) As a Saint, \'Thou speakest in jest\'. 7) Beauty is in the eye
of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used
to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the
South Coast\'s only Premier League club\'s new England International,
multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!

Yes
he was an England international before they found out he was going to
pompey, and woosh, he is dropped.
Same happened to Nugent.
And like Nugent no-one wanted him, pompey just get all the scraps.
Get ya facts right pugwash,must feel good having a player who already
turnt you down a million times.
He will be gone by the summer.

Jim wrote:
Right so the last board (who have resigned thank God) say that if we dont sell we´ll be in administration. Then we buy a player for 1 million. Then we offload our best striker on loan because we have money problems. This is schoolboy mathetics, who the hell have we got in control of this place? Cant seem to make theyre minds up.

leon crouch wrote:
the new manager is gonna be ric flair, sorry but he's threatening me and i'm not messing with him because he's a nutter, and also i'm not intrested in this club, i'm too busy relaxing on holiday, i'm not coming back so now u wont have anyone 2 protest 2, i might takeover a decent team in this country like olympiakos, panathinaikos or aek, i'm loaded with cash and investment, and also the money from the loan deals we did last night, good luck and hopefully u wont end up in league 1 all da best?

Yawn wrote:

leon crouch wrote: the new manager is gonna be ric flair, sorry but he's threatening me and i'm not messing with him because he's a nutter, and also i'm not intrested in this club, i'm too busy relaxing on holiday, i'm not coming back so now u wont have anyone 2 protest 2, i might takeover a decent team in this country like olympiakos, panathinaikos or aek, i'm loaded with cash and investment, and also the money from the loan deals we did last night, good luck and hopefully u wont end up in league 1 all da best?

F*ck off Ric Flair, Batista, Jake the snake roberts, the great Khali and whatever else you call yourself. You are a childish nob. Probably a spotty 16 year old who barely has hairs on his balls. Isn't there a WWF forum you can polute, rather than this forum?!

ric flair wrote:

Yawn wrote:

leon crouch wrote: the new manager is gonna be ric flair, sorry but he\'s threatening me and i\'m not messing with him because he\'s a nutter, and also i\'m not intrested in this club, i\'m too busy relaxing on holiday, i\'m not coming back so now u wont have anyone 2 protest 2, i might takeover a decent team in this country like olympiakos, panathinaikos or aek, i\'m loaded with cash and investment, and also the money from the loan deals we did last night, good luck and hopefully u wont end up in league 1 all da best?

F*ck off Ric Flair, Batista, Jake the snake roberts, the great Khali and whatever else you call yourself. You are a childish nob. Probably a spotty 16 year old who barely has hairs on his balls. Isn\'t there a WWF forum you can polute, rather than this forum?!

do u have a name u loser?

leon crouch wrote:
the new manager is gonna be ric flair, sorry but he's threatening me and i'm not messing with him because he's a nutter, and also i'm not intrested in this club, i'm too busy relaxing on holiday, i'm not coming back so now u wont have anyone 2 protest 2, i might takeover a decent team in this country like olympiakos, panathinaikos or aek, i'm loaded with cash and investment, and also the money from the loan deals we did last night, good luck and hopefully u wont end up in league 1 all da best?