Rightly said for once, Echo.
The players are awful and need to know it!!

Got to expect the skates to love our situation, for years they were where we are now, while they are currently enjoying the finest hour.

Not worth bothering about, what goes around comes around. I'd rather be where we are than have thier owner.

The fact of the matter is at the moment Saints are shocking, but we are so bad I for one am starting to see the funny side.

Whatever happens we are a big club, with a proud history and for so long were the only south coast club with any kind of support/success. Sure as eggs is eggs we will be back, our fan base is too strong not too.

Can't say I'm enjoying the ride right now, but in life you have to have lows before you get highs..

Up the saints.

I was appalled by myself last night. I admit that for the first time as a Saints fan, I booed one or two of our players. I cheered when Euell was replaced. I even sang "your not fit to wear the shirt". I am also appalled that my beloved club have sunk to this horrendous low. I have tried to remain positive all season and have even had some heated debates on these forums about the right way to support the club. I have been a Saints fan for 25 of my 28 years. I was even derided as a child for my choice of team as I grew up in a predominantly West Ham Utd catchment. I go to every home game, and as many away games as I can fit in around work. I am a season ticket holder, I watch them train, I watch the reseverves and academy play. Yet, through all of this support, I felt justified in my actions. And that appalls me too. The thing that appalls me most of all though, is that I dont regret my actions. Not even one iota.

I will take this opportunity to thank Kelvin Davis for keeping the score down, Andrew Davies for another commited, hardworking performance, a deserving captain, and Adam Hammill for coming on and showing the guts, commitment, work ethic and determination that you did. A loan player showed more for the club than permanent contracted players did. Sad but true.

Unfortunately this is what happens when other clubs are taken over by multi-billionaire American businessmen and offshore consortia, while Saints get acquired by a house builder from Liverpool and a factory owner from Lymington. Saints Go Wilde, indeed.

Having just witnessed the preformance of Southampton I feel that it is time to turn my back on the losers I played for for so long and go and support a team on the up..... so from now on I will mostly be supporting Plymouth Argyle..... It seems very obvious to me that they recognise a good manager (eg Paul Sturrock) and give him a chance to show what he can do!!!!........Green and white barmy army!!!!

If Wright can play for Saints then so can I

1. Jermaine Wright was far from the worst player on the field last night. Booing him was negative and destructive.
2. I don't know Leon Crouch but I do know that he has been a Saints supporter all his life. That doesn't make him a good chairman but don't tell me that he doesn't care.
3. The team play as a set of individuals, worried about their own performances. They don't play as a team. No movement, no covering. Perhaps Pearon will sort that out.

If Euell can play for Saints then so can I

The one thing the Echo appear to have missed is the reason Wright was being given such a hard time... The throwing down of the Captains arm band after the goal. A display of disrespect like that will always get the fans on your back. and deservedly so.

All season i have kept the faith that Saints will do well and we can pull a string of wins together but now I'm losing faith. If we don't start winning we will be relegated again.

Come on you Saints start playing for the fans or you will end up having no fans to play for.

S-F-C for life

I have been a Saints fan for over 30 years in that time the roller coaster ride that is "Southampton FC" has taken me through some fantastic high pionts & plenty of low's.

But i have to admit seeing half the team out enjoying themselfs in Southampton on Saturday night after such a poor defeat to Bristol Rovers goes down as probably the lowest piont in my time as a supporter.

If this had happened in Liverpool or Manchester...well you no it would not.

It brings just one question to mind was any of that team out Saturday night really fit enough to wear a red & white shirt....i think not.

So what has happened to all the arrogant fans who despite the team being poor were expecting promotion?

We are in a bad position as we have no money it is nobody's fault except for Burley who has spent loads of money on second rate players I think he did that at Ipswich and that is why they were relegated from the Premiership.

It will take time to rebuild if we are relegated so be it other teams like Leeds Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest all First Division Champions as well as Manchester City and Portsmouth have been relegated that is football nothing is a certain I really have been upset with the attitude of some fans saying that the Premiership is where we belong.

If we had loads of Dosh I would agree but we never have had much we have never signed any really top class players except when Lawrie was in charge for a couple of years in the early 80s.

Le Tiss with his goals and Lowe with his management kept us up for many years but I always felt it was only time before we were relegated.

Come on Andy. Name names. We all deserve to know how are taking us for mugs by pretending to care.

inside news is that chris hutchings is to be appointed number two with bryan robson also being interested in the link up with pearson.

Dear Mr Pearson,
Welcome to the ongoing nightmare that is Southampton Football Club. You have now seen the enormity of the job you face and we all wish you the very best of luck. You will need to be a miracle worker.

But beware of people who give you false information; you may well hear the following:
1. "Saints fans are used to free flowing short-passing football" Not true. We used to be called the Alehouse Brawlers (by the late Bill Shankly)and we regularly hoofed it up for Micky Channon, Ron Davies and Peter Osgood to barge defenders out of the way. For a while we were a celebrity drinking club that managed to scrape a lucky FA cup win with a dubious goal. And after that a genius called Le Tissier (who was the finest exponent of the raking long pass ever)kept us in the top division single- handed for many years. The short passing style (which in truth we were never any good at) was only introduced relatively recently by messrs Hoddle and Burley, neither of whom enjoyed any significant success at the club. So please abandon that style of football and give us a tough Route 1 team that can win matches, Big Sam should have taught you how.
2. "Andrew Surman is our best player". Not true. Poor little Andrew is a nice ehough lad but he's not robust enough for the rough and tumble of the Championship and therefore spends most of his time either flat on his ar*e or chasing after referees to try and get a free kick. So either feed him some pies and send him off to the gym to build him up a bit or sell him on and get a couple of nasty 6'6 bruisers in instead.
3. "Jermaine Wright is our worst player" Not true. Poor old Jermaine is a decent enough defensive midfielder who has to play out of position virtually every week. The abuse that he gets for that willingness to adapt for the team is truly shocking.
4. "Saints are in the same financial position as Colchester". A famous and outrageous lie from the board. Take a look at our average attendance (20,540)and then at Colchester's (5,428)and multiply those numbers by £25. That simple bit of maths will show you that our approximate gross income for a home game is nearly FOUR TIMES that of the Essex club. Factor in the transfer money that we have received for the likes of Bale, Walcott, Jones etc (and that's only recently)and unless they have presided over the one of the worst cases of mis-management in UK company history then the Colchester comparison simply cannot be true.

But don't take my word for it Nigel; be your own man and make up your own mind. But just don't believe everything you hear.

reveal your source. sorry just a bit sceptical as i remember lowes spin doctors posting on these streams. how do we know this isnt the same thing. you too Andy.

Yeah come on Andy who was it and where did they go?

A message to Pearson.
Welcome to Hell!! Dont let the nickname fool you, these boys are no Saints (apart from Andrew Davies)

These boys have no passion, no hunger, no care in the world!!

Kelvin Davis - Good shot stopper, when he actually tries (as you saw last night for Goal 2, it was comical that he didnt try)

Jermaine Wright - Have you got all night? Throws the Cpt armband to the floor, typical overpaid idiot, cant defend, cant tackle, CANT is his middle name!!
Darren Powell - Up until a few weeks ago Bon Jovi had played more times at St Marys! Good when fit
Wayne Thomas - Was good until he was asked to play Right Back, slowly becoming the next I was
Greg Vignal - Decent enough but not staying beyond Loan spell.

Andrew Surman - Local lad, used to be ok then got big headed, if only a former Boro boy could show him passion, sums it up when a local lad doesnt put in half a performance
Jhon Viafara - Only good when others are playing good (im a fan of his and I can see it)
Jason Euell - Truly our worst signing, even worse than ''Weah's Cousin'', im sick to the back bone of him playing for MY TEAM.
Youseff Safri - First 20 games was outstanding, dropped his head in recent weeks.

Marek Saganowski - Typical, the words 'Played for a contract come to mind', is he Djamel Belmadi in disguise?
Stern John - As a professional footballer, was he ever told not to lean back? good hold up play at times
BWP - Too young to understand what is going on, and lacks in confidence when it goes wrong, definately has the ability to do well, just a shame he gets stick when he is good enough but fails at times like this.

Adam Hammill - Great player, who relies on everyone playing a good game, like BWP he is wasted in a team that cant be on fire. Both are young and both get stick because they are made to look worse when the other players around them wont play.
Andrew Davies - How I have been proved wrong by him, when he arrived I thought what are we doing with a nobody name, but this boy has the lot. If he played for the BIG 4 in the Prem he would be an International right now.
Adam Lallana - Good prospect, has to be the better option over Euell, Wright, Viafara, even Surman

Rasiak - Why did he have to go? Goals are what get you noticed for and Poland wont notice him on the Bolton Bench
Skacel - Just when he got his Left Sided position he up sticks and leaves!! Hope he returns but wont, esp as were on route to League 1.

Pearson, be the Soldier and kick them into gear, if it means playing the reserves and dropping the lot of them then do it, IT CANT BE WORSE CAN IT?

Team sheet for Scunthorpe

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..........Davies....
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.Davies.......Davies
.....Davies........D
avies.
.Davies.......Davies
.....Davies........D
avies.
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.Davies.....Davies..
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These are the predicted positions on the current form of all the Championship sides....

16 Blackpool 53
17 Sheffield United 53
18 Leicester City 52
19 Colchester United 49
20 PNE 48
21 Coventry City 48
22 Southampton 45
23 Sheffield Weds 44
24 Scunthorpe 38

Didn't go last night despite having a season ticket

won't be renewing next year - it makes me miserable and I have to pay for the privilege

would almost like us to go down again - sounds spiteful but if we could go into liquidation and the shareholders lose their shirts then I would at least have something to smile about. The banks would then have to ensure that the debt for the stadium could be paid and we could start agian

What would really make me smile would be if we could rip up the contracts of all but a handful of the useless individuals we call "players"

Although we can all make reasonable assumptions about players who care or not, and my view is that only 4/5 give a jot about SFC and it's loyal supporters, let's just base our views on actual performances. My view again is that we have two people (I choose not to use the word players) in at full back who a) cannot tackle, and in one case b) cannot run or turn. We also have a midfield without the ability to tackle, pass the ball, and retain possession for more than 30m seconds of a game. To top that we have two strikers that on current form could not hit my garage door from five feet. This I am afraid is a recipe for ongoing decline. I hope that Nigel Pearson is not stupid, and my first view that he certainly is not, then major changes have to be made to the make up of our team. I personally do not want to see certain players ever wearing Saints shirts again and it would be great if the club could just tear up their contracts. Unfortunately they cannot, so making them earn their mega bucks by cleaning toilets etc would be too good for several of them. On the positive side, thank goodness for Andrew Davies, and well done to Kelvin as well. It is refreshing to see Andrew's passion and commitment on the pitch and his pain when he leaves, on the losing side again! It appears that he was made captain at half time last night. He should retain the job and have a squad of young players built around him. The other young players currently in the team seem to have had any confidence drained out of them, and David McColdrick looks like he cannot wait to leave the club, judging by his body language when warming up. I guess if you know that you are unlikely to get given more than five minutes, if you do actually get on the pitch, isn't very movitvation! What a pity that we cannot just scrap the whole team and start again. I am confident that with the right mix of committed experienced players and enthusiastic youngster, there is enough ability in this club to be sucessfull. We have to cut out the cancer of "free loaders" and "journeymen" players who do not care for the team or it's supporters. Needless to say, bad management at Board and coaching levels should take full responsibility for allowing the current decay to become acceptable. I remain Saints forever.

Wasn't Chris Marsden a "journeyman"? What I would give for a player like him in red & white at the moment. Never the most skillfull, quickest or technically sound player, but at least you knew you would get a commited performance full of plenty of running tackling tracking back and motivating. The journeymen are not the problem. It is their motivation. For too long they have been assured of their place in the starting line up and a full 90 minutes. I reckon Pearson will sort this problem out though. I'm thinking that he could be a Brian Clough type manager i.e. if you play sh1te, you dont play. You dont play, you dont get your match fee. You have to earn your place and earn the right to keep it. I truly hope I'm right.

Come on you reds.

The 'players', or should I say squad, are happy to turn up and get paid but seem to forget they have to perform. Perhaps passion for the game should be added to each training session and the tactics board before each game. I have seen better Sunday morning games on local recs where players actually pay to play. Come on Saints try and look 'hungry' to win a game and win back all the ex-season ticket holders like myself and family. It will be a lot harder should we not escape relegation.

p.s. to the above post.
There is some national press speculation regarding Sunderland and "Andrew" Surman today. I have previously read about their intrest in Davies. I that losing either would be disapointing, but to see Davies go would by my "last straw". Please note messrs Hoos and Crouch etc - selling any more half decent players is not the way forward. Ask them if they want Powell, Wright, Euell, Idiakez or Saganowski etc!

I listened to the game last night and was just as appalled by what I heard as what I watched on Saturday. This has not been a lot different to many of the home games I watch with my son in the Chapel Stand.

Saints are currently doing what I feared, that once we dropped out of the Premiership we would start to struggle. It is the classic spiral down, lack of investment in the team in the Premiership years coupled with a new stadium and the debt this has are starting to cripple us. As a Premiership team we filled the new stadium and it was great to see. We are now starting to see the other end of football, a poor team, giving poor results has lead to the gate that was seen at St Mary's yesterday. Unfortunately it will only get worse and the spiral will continue down. I have seen similar with companies that I have worked for.

How do you stop the slide, it needs a leader, someone (I hope Nigel Pearson is that someone) to motivate and lead, to clear out any dead wood, it needs a lot of discussion with the team as a whole and a lot of discussion with individuals. It also needs a leap of faith from the board, somehow we have to have investment. It may need a gamble in someway come the end of the season and hopefully we are still in the same league and buy the players who want to wear the red and white shirt.

For the moment, stop dreaming of the play offs, we have taken just 7 points from a possible 33 since 21 December. We got to the play offs last season with 74 points. We would need to win all our remaining games to get 78 points for the season. We need to be realistic. Survival is the target.

I think we have a team that can achieve this, I agree with some of the comments above, Andrew Davies and Kelvin Davis are trying hard, this needs to be got through the rest of the team.

I saddens me to admit but I left early at the QPR game because I was appalled by the lack of effort. But will be back for the next home game where we as dedicated Saints fans must get behind our team, we can help the motivation, we need to be supportive. If I am honest, we as supporters are becoming like Newcastle fans. We are better than that.!!!!!

Leon, if you read this I hope you take note. Remember the demise of STC, it helped you build your company.

COME ON YOU SAINTS.

Just a quick response to saint4life.
I have total appreciation and respect for a "journeyman" who gives effort and comitment a la Chris Marsden etc. My point being that I don't see any of our many current "journeymen" who any value at all! I also remain sants4ever!

Martin Orford wrote:
Dear Mr Pearson, Welcome to the ongoing nightmare that is Southampton Football Club. You have now seen the enormity of the job you face and we all wish you the very best of luck. You will need to be a miracle worker. But beware of people who give you false information; you may well hear the following: 1. "Saints fans are used to free flowing short-passing football" Not true. We used to be called the Alehouse Brawlers (by the late Bill Shankly)and we regularly hoofed it up for Micky Channon, Ron Davies and Peter Osgood to barge defenders out of the way. For a while we were a celebrity drinking club that managed to scrape a lucky FA cup win with a dubious goal. And after that a genius called Le Tissier (who was the finest exponent of the raking long pass ever)kept us in the top division single- handed for many years. The short passing style (which in truth we were never any good at) was only introduced relatively recently by messrs Hoddle and Burley, neither of whom enjoyed any significant success at the club. So please abandon that style of football and give us a tough Route 1 team that can win matches, Big Sam should have taught you how. 2. "Andrew Surman is our best player". Not true. Poor little Andrew is a nice ehough lad but he's not robust enough for the rough and tumble of the Championship and therefore spends most of his time either flat on his ar*e or chasing after referees to try and get a free kick. So either feed him some pies and send him off to the gym to build him up a bit or sell him on and get a couple of nasty 6'6 bruisers in instead. 3. "Jermaine Wright is our worst player" Not true. Poor old Jermaine is a decent enough defensive midfielder who has to play out of position virtually every week. The abuse that he gets for that willingness to adapt for the team is truly shocking. 4. "Saints are in the same financial position as Colchester". A famous and outrageous lie from the board. Take a look at our average attendance (20,540)and then at Colchester's (5,428)and multiply those numbers by £25. That simple bit of maths will show you that our approximate gross income for a home game is nearly FOUR TIMES that of the Essex club. Factor in the transfer money that we have received for the likes of Bale, Walcott, Jones etc (and that's only recently)and unless they have presided over the one of the worst cases of mis-management in UK company history then the Colchester comparison simply cannot be true. But don't take my word for it Nigel; be your own man and make up your own mind. But just don't believe everything you hear.

Martin, well constructed piece and quite true too!
I was at the match last night and saw some interesting positive points.
1. Playing Wright in the middle of a 4-3-3 helped to open up the game early on as he put simple passes through to BWP but our end product was not there. However, I sensed it was going to come if we kept doing it. Up until Powell's injury, Plymouth did not break into our half unless their keeper went long, allowing Davies to head away and Jermain to move the ball out again.
2. Powell's substitution changed the shape of the team completely, moving Wright back to defence and leaving us an attacking midfield, with no cover for defence. That left holes between defence and midfield that was allowing Plymouth in to score. How we missed petulant Safri in there last night and JW did his best to fill that gap.
3. Euell got stuck in for the first 20 minutes and chased and tackled well. When we went back to a 4-4-2, he got lazy relying on others around him to mop up. My conclusion, play Euell only in 4-3-3 formations, which revert to 4-5-1 when defending. If playing 4-4-2, Euell gives us no options.
4. Euell has an enormous throw, so why does JW always get brought up to take them. This leaves us exposed at the back as Thomas does not cover JW well and for a big lad, seems scared to get the boot in and show his strength. When Euell finally took a throw in (just before he was subbed) it created an instant opportunity as it went inside their 18yard box. If Saints practise that better, John could have layed off to Hammill in the gap between Left-back and Central defender, and the same on the left flank. Using Euell's long throw puts opponents under pressure, just look at Sheffield Utd. When JW takes throw ins, the team are static and give him no options than go down the line. Whe Euell takes them, we are immediately putting the opposition under pressure leaving JW to cover any oppostion breaks.
5. The pairing of Vignal and Davies is excellent. Just watch how Davies comes to cover the flank when Vignal moves up to support the attack and get crosses in. Davies simply puts the ball out and gives Vignal time to get back in position, much like Baird and Bale last season. And you will always see that when this happens, Davies and Vignal high-5 each other. Shame Thomas can't do the same for Wright, but if we used Euell more for throw ins, then this would not be neccessary.

It occurred to me that our lack of central defenders leaves us with little options when one goes off injured. If we could play JW in his natural position more, then we may stand a chance as he does run and get tackles in. Viafara does too but his passing lets him down.

I felt the fans booing JW was not fair as he was trying. He did not start in Defence, but was put there in circumstances with Thomas offering him little support. Booing JW is destructive and I was pleased that some in Kingsland were standing up and encouraging him.

Hammill offers us a great deal and should be played more often but he is inaffective if he gets the ball when he is static. If we moved the ball to him quicker then his momentum will turn defences inside out, as seen against Hull. But giving him the ball too late means the opposition can close him down like last night and if midfield don't come to support him, he has nowhere to go. That is where a holding midfielder helps as Safri and JW play simple passes, quickly.

I did not boo the team as they need our encouragement. I hated to see the heads drop last night as it was clear they knew that they were struggling, but looked clueless as to what to do.

Give them a chance, encourage them more and let Pearson do his job. He only had Tues morning with the players so what did those who booed expect!?

Sueaky bum time is here, as I predicted 2 months ago.
Watching people leave at half-time last night brought mixed feelings, should I stay or should I go?.
Now I can sit through whole games without any emotions, I drifted back to my warm seat.
I know how the guy on the radio last night feels. A goal goes in and you just sit there, probably because you expect it.
In 40 odd years this is a first to me, but I sense a few games coming where I shall be shed
of any living feeling.
Saints preserve us.
COYR. There to the bitter end.

I thought the team showed a bit more effort and commitment last night. The main problem is a serious lack of confidence after a run of poor results. Our slagging them off hardly helps. I hope those of you who are parents don't/didn't do the same when your kids come/came home with poor school reports! A more positive response is needed.

Pearson has a major task to instil confidence in the players. We can play our part by getting behind them I thought the Northam lads were magnificent again in their lengthy supportive chants in the second half.

That said, Mr Pearson, you surely can't pick Euell in midfield (ever) again, nor Wright anywhere unless you have absolutely no alternative. Hamill must start and you should look in training at whether you can pitch Lallana and McGoldrick into the fray at Scunthorpe. An injection of younger, spirited players may re-energise the team. (When will Dyer be back too? We miss his work ethic and pace badly.)

Can the Club afford the wages to take on a few loan players? If Pearson does have some 'contacts', maybe he can get one or two in.

To be fair to Pearson, he needs a couple more games to fully assess the situation and find the solution. After that, with only 10 games left, he has to be held accountable for results despite the limited resources and options available to him.

We must give him the chance to impose his own ideas and methods and we must be patient a short while. A point a game will probably suffice but let's hope we can secure our Championship status before the last game of the season.

COYR

After the second goal went in last night, did anyone else (chapel stand) see Jermaine Wright throw the captains armband on the floor and walk away? (he was given it by DP when he went off injured)

What was that all about??

Fingerpointer wrote:
1. Jermaine Wright was far from the worst player on the field last night. Booing him was negative and destructive.
2. I don't know Leon Crouch but I do know that he has been a Saints supporter all his life. That doesn't make him a good chairman but don't tell me that he doesn't care.
3. The team play as a set of individuals, worried about their own performances. They don't play as a team. No movement, no covering. Perhaps Pearon will sort that out.

I totally agree!

Booing the players is gonna make things worse!

Even if some of the youngsters come in, they will be nervous about making mistakes cos they know the crowd will get on their backs if they do!

Just one more thing: I though that the singing coming out of the Northam stand last night was AWESOME - that's what the team needs!

We were so sad last night , we sat in the Itchen in our season ticket seats , decided that after going to see the Bristol game we would put it behind us and get behind the team and the new manager .We do not know why Jermaine takes the stick as he always tries so hard unlike most of the others Davis and Davis excluded .Lowest gate ? just felt totally demoralised . But the club have sold all those who were worth money what have we left ? they bore no similarity to any Saints team that we have ever watched . Massive cash investment is all that can save us by rebuilding a new team , lads that will wear the shirt with pride once more .We are diehards but if we get reegated once more we will not be renewing our season tickets as the pain is just too much to bear .We no longer remember the pleasure of walking down the road buzzing , it would be more fun having ones teeth extracted . How long before Drew goes off to play for Sunderland ? in our humble opinion of course and who would blame him ?

A very good analysis by dgi above for the first 20 mins until powell went off we looked half decent and JW as a holding midfielder played very well in his rightful position. We need some loan signings to cover right back and not play wright out of position. If the squad is so lacking in depth then the only place I can see for ewuell is right back. My worry is that stern john is not a target man and without a big centre forward his goals will dry up. The second half was better at least more committed and so Pearson made a difference at half time. I he's got something about him and hope he can keep us up because given the squad, Andrew Davies apart, theres not a great deal of quality.

St Mark wrote:
After the second goal went in last night, did anyone else (chapel stand) see Jermaine Wright throw the captains armband on the floor and walk away? (he was given it by DP when he went off injured) What was that all about??

He probably thought oh **** i have to play full back again i am **** in that position He knows it 20,000 fans know it so why dont the managers Burley Dodd Gorman and Pearson know it Viaffara should play there if we dont have any other options as for Euell I am lost for words i agree with most of Saints fans he is one of our worst ever players why cant the managers see it

wisdom from saint compo. the terrace boo boys have to stop. it's no coincidence that our current form is better away than at home. no team, or in our case set of disaffected individuals, will respond to booing and catcalling. we have to get behind them even if the shockingly poor euell continues to be selected. we have an extremely tricky run-in and, although it's the players duty to give us something to cheer, we have to pull together to stay in this league. relegation beckons so put aside all the disappointment and let's encourage pearson's team, or we're doomed...

Play Wright in midfield and he will do ok. He's on a hiding to nothing being forced to play in an unnatural position. I don't blame hom for being cheesed off...in fact he's done well to keep going all these weeks with lots on his back.

John B wrote:
So what has happened to all the arrogant fans who despite the team being poor were expecting promotion? We are in a bad position as we have no money it is nobody's fault except for Burley who has spent loads of money on second rate players I think he did that at Ipswich and that is why they were relegated from the Premiership. It will take time to rebuild if we are relegated so be it other teams like Leeds Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest all First Division Champions as well as Manchester City and Portsmouth have been relegated that is football nothing is a certain I really have been upset with the attitude of some fans saying that the Premiership is where we belong. If we had loads of Dosh I would agree but we never have had much we have never signed any really top class players except when Lawrie was in charge for a couple of years in the early 80s. Le Tiss with his goals and Lowe with his management kept us up for many years but I always felt it was only time before we were relegated.

I am glad you feel justified now and contented with our lot!

I think you missed the point most Saints fans are saying, and it is very arrogant of you to label Saint fans arrogant!

There is a fine line from champ. to prem. and if we had beaten Derby, your summing up would of been blown out the water! You sound happy or content with our situation, and like that we should not even dream or attempt to try and get back to the prem.

Simply football has sadley become a money game, and yes we do have a lot of building to do, though football in this country is the prem, the money their and sadly our salvation!

i hate whats happened to the club, and the sqaud are useless, we have no one who plays for the club or fans - they play for money - hence no passion or commitment..... so mr pearson - im offering my footballing services to the club for free! i might not of kicked a football for a few years, but ill play with a passion and some ability!

anyone else here want to make up a repplacement squad, play for free and save us from religation?? im not bad in midfield....

People say that Pearson may provide teh solution for our defence. But, Jason Dodd arrived and didn't sort that one so can Pearson?

One thing that has puzzled me for much of this season is that whilst I know that we have had problems in our defence and Kelvin Davis is much improved, surely if you leak too many goals then the first thing you need to look at is the goalkeeper. Lack of certainty in your goalkeeper alters the way your defenders play. Now, as I said, Davis is much improved and I have seen him make some good saves and decisions but we have Bialkowski (currently injured)who I personally think is a better keeper. Several games ago we should have looked again at building the defence around him. Clearly at this stage now, we are stuck with what we have built.

Nigel Pearson is a stupid move at this time. I don't understand it. He does not have the time to make progress here. Gorman and Dodd were better placed to see this out until the end of the season.

In my view the defensive woes in the first half of the season have cost us - and they continue now. The difference now is that we cannot score goals. Rasiak was left out in the cold and this forced his exit. Another mistake.

Somehow we need to get Viafara and Saganowski back on form quickly. Coupled with Stern john these are the opportunities I think we have. Andrew Davies at the back is the best we have there, combined with Wayne Thomas on best form in the centre is the best chance we have of keeping goals out. Beyond this, I currently see little else of real backbone to sort our problems out.

Plymouth fan in peace here. I have to say that for the first twenty minutes you looked a very decent side, and again at the beggining of the second half started very brightly. If you had scored first and got your tales up it would have been a very different game indeed. Also what many of you have said about your fans, atleast there was some form of life there. Both to the left (itchen stand??)and the right (can't remember) there was a lot of noise at the start and although it died down atleast we knew you were there. As Sturrock said you have a good team and obviously a nice set up. I'm sure things will come good again. You have a lot more about you then the teams around you at the bottom as well

I think it is unfair that you all have a go at Jermaine Wright.
If you had managed to score your decent chances last night (thomas @ back post, Saganowski slicer x2); you would have got a draw. As a plymouth goalkeeper, i dont expect too much from my defence, but last night they were exepetional, and our first goal was tucked in well admitedally after a wayward pass by that crazyboy Surman.
By the way, i like Rupert Lowe, he did a lot for you and managed to keep a clenched fist about your financial situation. Redknapp is awesome, so is Billy Davies, and i really love blue and white as a team shirt colour. As well as green and white.
Southampton, you are rubbish.

greenshark wrote:
Plymouth fan in peace here. I have to say that for the first twenty minutes you looked a very decent side, and again at the beggining of the second half started very brightly. If you had scored first and got your tales up it would have been a very different game indeed. Also what many of you have said about your fans, atleast there was some form of life there. Both to the left (itchen stand??)and the right (can't remember) there was a lot of noise at the start and although it died down atleast we knew you were there. As Sturrock said you have a good team and obviously a nice set up. I'm sure things will come good again. You have a lot more about you then the teams around you at the bottom as well

Very true, and thanks!

I dont think we were the worst team out there last night. The players not performing need to get their act together and help the likes of Davis, Davies, & Hammill who showed they want it. We need to draw a line under the past, we are stuck with the squad we have till the end of the sesaon, we need to get behind the team and let Pearson have his head and see what he can do.

I reckon we need about 12 points to reach safety and stay in this league, which equates to one win in in every three games until the end of the season, I would have thought this possible?

Look, up until this season I let it be the Wright was playing for money.
Yesterday he ran about like a blue a** fly (wonder why, new manager, please pick me?), but then lost it completely BEFORE the 0-0 became 1-0 and 2-0.
Wright is useless, the only thing he does considerbly well is chip the ball over for Hammill to run onto. Thats not worthy of a start every week.

- He cant tackle
- He cant chase
- He cant take being at Fault (which 9 times out of 10 he is)
- He cant pass to a player who is next to him
- He relies heavy on Hoofing the ball forward and someone latching onto it
- He cant shoot (something a Mdfielder as he says he is should be able to do)
- He cant show passion
- He cant defend corners
- He cant PLAY
- He cant get DROPPED!!!

Too many Cant's and no Can!!

I will support anyone who wears the shirt and gives 100%, and im afraid only one or two possibly three can say they do give it there all. If every memeber of our squad can safely say they have given 100% in 90% of the games I will apologise for this comment, and if they do say they have then I expect them to be on the FIRST bus out of here, as if that is their 100% then im prepared to play for nothing and show them PASSION and EFFORT.

I know that not every player will care about the Club they are at, but at least show why you should be paid.

If I said that in the 14 years that I have been a Season Ticket holder (only 3 games missed inc pre season) and over £10,000.00 spent in them years, what would you say I have got back for £10,000.00?
If you went shopping (rubbish example), and bought your monthly food and stuff, and the bill came to £200 but everything that you had paid for was Crushed and out of date, would you be happy? NO
If you had just paid £10,000.00 for a new car and it was nice and shiny but had no engine and was completely unfixable, would you be happy? NO

I have spent £10,000.00 and all I have got to show for it was a day out in Cardiff in 2003 and a team that shows no effort. Am I happy? NO.
So yes I will Boo, I will voice my opinion, I will mutter my hurt at the death of this Club.
And are you going to change my opinion and tell me im wrong? NO, Because I dont care who tells me im a disgrace or im not true to Saints then F'Off, cos I have spent £10,000.00 and im in disgust that my hard money is earnt in one week by Euell and Wright that cannot play a decent game!!

COYR show me your true spirit that you so obviously have, MAKE ME PROUD AGAIN!! IT HURTS FEELING LIKE THIS!!

phil wrote:
People say that Pearson may provide teh solution for our defence. But, Jason Dodd arrived and didn't sort that one so can Pearson? One thing that has puzzled me for much of this season is that whilst I know that we have had problems in our defence and Kelvin Davis is much improved, surely if you leak too many goals then the first thing you need to look at is the goalkeeper. Lack of certainty in your goalkeeper alters the way your defenders play. Now, as I said, Davis is much improved and I have seen him make some good saves and decisions but we have Bialkowski (currently injured)who I personally think is a better keeper. Several games ago we should have looked again at building the defence around him. Clearly at this stage now, we are stuck with what we have built. Nigel Pearson is a stupid move at this time. I don't understand it. He does not have the time to make progress here. Gorman and Dodd were better placed to see this out until the end of the season. In my view the defensive woes in the first half of the season have cost us - and they continue now. The difference now is that we cannot score goals. Rasiak was left out in the cold and this forced his exit. Another mistake. Somehow we need to get Viafara and Saganowski back on form quickly. Coupled with Stern john these are the opportunities I think we have. Andrew Davies at the back is the best we have there, combined with Wayne Thomas on best form in the centre is the best chance we have of keeping goals out. Beyond this, I currently see little else of real backbone to sort our problems out.

Phil, I don't think it a coincidence that Davis' form has improved since he has had stability in front of him with Davies. In the first 14 games, we fielded 13 different defence formations due to injuries.
Look at Man Utd and Arsenal; steady & consistent defence in front of the sticks means their keepers play well as they build up an understanding with their back four.

Davis kept us from even greater embarressment at Rovers and last night, and has been on great form recently.

As for Viafara, they need to work on his passing then he will be the real deal; pace and strength. Saga needs better service and then he will return to last seasons' form.

WHAT CAN I SAY ----------- I NOW LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH, BUT THATS AS FAR AS THAT WILL GO IHAVE BEEN A SAINTS FAN FOR 35 YEARS, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I FEEL I HAVE WATCHED A PUB TEAM, SURELY WE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO A REFUND FROM LAST NIGHT AS THAT WAS NOT THE ENTERTAINMENT THE WE HAD PAID FOR.

Jermaine Wright is a disgrace in a saints shirt and should leave, the only 2 that deserved a place in the team after last night is Kelvin Davies and Andrew Davies, Andrew was by far the best player on the pitch, and worth at least double what we paid for him,,,, Please please please lets sort something out before the club DIES

When is Jermaine Wright going to issue an apology for his behaviour last night?

Until he faces up to the fans, the board and the manager and apologises for throwing the captains armband down he should not be considered for the first team squad (in an ideal world he wouldnt anyway).

It should be an honour to captain your side. Yet he showed the kind of respect you wouldnt see in a kids match.

Its quite simple Jermaine - if you arent happy wearing the red and white shirt - then leave. We dont want your kind of attitude at the club, you overpaid useless waste of space. While youre at it, take Euell, Safri, Powell, Saganowski and anyone else who isnt 110% committed with you. You all earn more money in a month than most people earn in a year, its time you proved to everyone (including yourselves) that you are worth the money.

Take a look at Andrew Davies - he has the attitude and committment that you should have.

If I was Mr Leon Crouch, I would have installed Iain Dowie as manager, with Jimmy Case & Tim Flowers as backroom staff. These men know about Saints traditions and what the fans expect !! They wouldn't stand for any non-performers !!!!

Then they should have appointed the right manager, such as Steve.C. The board made a quick and wrong decision.

Saint wrote:

BLUE ARMY! wrote:

Saint wrote:

BLUE ARMY! wrote:

london saint wrote:

Oh and I see your gate was very low last night, 17,000 ha ha ha ha!!

Lowest of the season but not far off your average! Why do you skates bother?

Not far off the averages but thats a full ground! not a half empty one!! ha ha ha ha ha!! Reckon you should pull half of St (Scum hole) Marys down, build some house and have a club with 'some' money ha ha!! But hang on don't you rent you're ground? You don't even own it ha ha ha ha!! Scum inbred tw*t!!!! Go back to you're marketing report!!

Yep another one! One little problem with your mouth...get your facts right!

Haven't you got some numbers to add up? Summer!! Hope you're looking forward to Cheltenham away!!

Sorry not the same person..are you unempolyed.

Cheltenham why...do you have them in the cup next year?

where do I start with you 'BLUEARMY'?!

firstly - we do own our ground but like many clubs we have a kind of mortgage on it.... I think you were getting confused and thought you were talking about your grotty little council house in leigh park.

secondly - yes we only had 17,000 and we did not play very well... however, for all of those years that Pompey were down in the lower leagues your ground was barely half full... FACT

thirdly - why did you call my fellow Southampton supporter a 'Summer!!'.. surely on that day that you did turn up to school the teacher explained what the four seasons were?!

lastly - F*&% OFF back to your minimum wage job at McDonalds and stop drinking special brew with your under age girlfriend.

COYR!!!

Dan wrote:

Saint wrote:

BLUE ARMY! wrote:

Saint wrote:

BLUE ARMY! wrote:

london saint wrote:

Oh and I see your gate was very low last night, 17,000 ha ha ha ha!!

Lowest of the season but not far off your average! Why do you skates bother?

Not far off the averages but thats a full ground! not a half empty one!! ha ha ha ha ha!! Reckon you should pull half of St (Scum hole) Marys down, build some house and have a club with 'some' money ha ha!! But hang on don't you rent you're ground? You don't even own it ha ha ha ha!! Scum inbred tw*t!!!! Go back to you're marketing report!!

Yep another one! One little problem with your mouth...get your facts right!

Haven't you got some numbers to add up? Summer!! Hope you're looking forward to Cheltenham away!!

Sorry not the same person..are you unempolyed. Cheltenham why...do you have them in the cup next year?

where do I start with you 'BLUEARMY'?! firstly - we do own our ground but like many clubs we have a kind of mortgage on it.... I think you were getting confused and thought you were talking about your grotty little council house in leigh park. secondly - yes we only had 17,000 and we did not play very well... however, for all of those years that Pompey were down in the lower leagues your ground was barely half full... FACT thirdly - why did you call my fellow Southampton supporter a 'Summer!!'.. surely on that day that you did turn up to school the teacher explained what the four seasons were?! lastly - F*&% OFF back to your minimum wage job at McDonalds and stop drinking special brew with your under age girlfriend. COYR!!!

Brilliant! I just did not think it was worth explaining all that you have taken time to do, as for point three mainly.

I hope he appreciates it?

I feel down today and we are all going through crap, but "lastly" has brighten me up no end, and I can't stop laughing, I suspect at least to summer.

saints fan wrote:
i hate whats happened to the club, and the sqaud are useless, we have no one who plays for the club or fans - they play for money - hence no passion or commitment..... so mr pearson - im offering my footballing services to the club for free! i might not of kicked a football for a few years, but ill play with a passion and some ability! anyone else here want to make up a repplacement squad, play for free and save us from religation?? im not bad in midfield....

My 9 year old has scored 37 goals this season in a struggling side, he also goes to AFCB's academy where he has a decent coach, that makes him a automatic choice up front in front of BWP at least.
And no" blue few", he will not come to yo,ever.
COYR.

You know what they say I WOULD RATHER BE A SCUMMER THAN A SKATE.
Come on boys you the team and us the loyal and faithful fans deserve much better

Hi Desperate Dan!
How can you claim to own your ground if, as you say 'we have a kind of mortgate on it'?
If you have ANY KIND OF MORTGAGE on the ground, then you DO NOT own it!
Similarly, if you have a mortgage on your house, you do not own it, that is why the mortgage company holds the title deeds until the mortgage is paid off.
Fratton Park may not be state of the art, but PORTSMOUTH FC, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, own it!

What I do not understand, and I guess that many Stains fans are also mystified is, why, with all the money received from the sale of The Dell - a prime building site for housing - and many millions received from the sale of more players than I can call to mind, is the club in financial melt-down, and not even owning their own ground that was built on contaminated ground that was unfit for housing, and so at a lower market price?

Mind you, with the dross that has performed on there since it was opened, the ground suffers from even worse contamination!

I'VE JUST SEEN THIS P0LL 0N THE MAATCHMAG WEBSITE,

Pearson's gonna keep Southampton up!
70%
They're going down to League 1!
30%

Hi Sam
I've missed you, nice to see you back reading the paper and commenting on the articles in your usual polite and articulate manner.
I have spotted a faux pas as you might say, did you mean to say state of the ark or art?.
As most timber buildings in skate city are made of wood from 1815 I presume you mean ark.

sailor sam wrote:
Hi Desperate Dan!
How can you claim to own your ground if, as you say 'we have a kind of mortgate on it'?
If you have ANY KIND OF MORTGAGE on the ground, then you DO NOT own it!
Similarly, if you have a mortgage on your house, you do not own it, that is why the mortgage company holds the title deeds until the mortgage is paid off.
Fratton Park may not be state of the art, but PORTSMOUTH FC, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, own it!

What I do not understand, and I guess that many Stains fans are also mystified is, why, with all the money received from the sale of The Dell - a prime building site for housing - and many millions received from the sale of more players than I can call to mind, is the club in financial melt-down, and not even owning their own ground that was built on contaminated ground that was unfit for housing, and so at a lower market price?

Mind you, with the dross that has performed on there since it was opened, the ground suffers from even worse contamination!

Sailor Sam - you indeed are correct sir. A mortgage does mean the lender holds the deeds... however being that I believe we do hold equity in the stadium we also have the responsibilities for the stadium and we also have the right to enhance, alter and such.... thus we are the owners albeit with a debt against it.

However - despite my comments being somewhat weighty toward your Pompey associate, I actually have no issue nor criticism of you on the SFC boards... you are typically fair, witty and not insulting.

Portsmouth are the only premier league team on the south coast - I do not dispute this.

Saints are playing and operating poorly currently - but WE still harbour the long off aspirations of rejoining Pompey in the top flight someday.

COYR!

sailor lover.who the **** are man united.thats your season out the window.as i thought run away.as for wright i saw him chuck the captains arm band last night.well he can suck sailor sams festering stump because he,s finished at sfc as far as im concerned.and what are the club going to do about.as per normal feck all

Saints are doing well. That is a fact If you wonder why it is simple. Considering we only play with a maximum of eight players, since Wright, Euell and at least one of the strikers make no valuable contribution, to only lose by the odd goal or two to eleven men playing as a team is good going.
QED

DJI wrote:

phil wrote: People say that Pearson may provide teh solution for our defence. But, Jason Dodd arrived and didn\'t sort that one so can Pearson? One thing that has puzzled me for much of this season is that whilst I know that we have had problems in our defence and Kelvin Davis is much improved, surely if you leak too many goals then the first thing you need to look at is the goalkeeper. Lack of certainty in your goalkeeper alters the way your defenders play. Now, as I said, Davis is much improved and I have seen him make some good saves and decisions but we have Bialkowski (currently injured)who I personally think is a better keeper. Several games ago we should have looked again at building the defence around him. Clearly at this stage now, we are stuck with what we have built. Nigel Pearson is a stupid move at this time. I don\'t understand it. He does not have the time to make progress here. Gorman and Dodd were better placed to see this out until the end of the season. In my view the defensive woes in the first half of the season have cost us - and they continue now. The difference now is that we cannot score goals. Rasiak was left out in the cold and this forced his exit. Another mistake. Somehow we need to get Viafara and Saganowski back on form quickly. Coupled with Stern john these are the opportunities I think we have. Andrew Davies at the back is the best we have there, combined with Wayne Thomas on best form in the centre is the best chance we have of keeping goals out. Beyond this, I currently see little else of real backbone to sort our problems out.

Phil, I don\'t think it a coincidence that Davis\' form has improved since he has had stability in front of him with Davies. In the first 14 games, we fielded 13 different defence formations due to injuries. Look at Man Utd and Arsenal; steady & consistent defence in front of the sticks means their keepers play well as they build up an understanding with their back four. Davis kept us from even greater embarressment at Rovers and last night, and has been on great form recently. As for Viafara, they need to work on his passing then he will be the real deal; pace and strength. Saga needs better service and then he will return to last seasons\' form.

I agree - it is no coincidence.

Just that it niggles away at me that Davis' track record has been poor, Bialkowski shored up the defence at the tail end of last season - and we are again leaking goals. Bartosz had a nighmare when he played this season - but I feel was discarded too early.

I fully agree that Kelvin Davis is not necessarily the current problem, its just that things need to be built from the back - whether that be now or in the future (next season).

Please sam go away, you can keep your sugardaddies and wideboys, everything we have ever had has been earned by ffotball.
You? Califonian Alan Sugar makes bad on £50 mil, Israeli arms dealer, sorry property developer,(how long untill he goes? as soon has he realises he will make no cash on your land), and Harry, I want a "finders fee, it`s normal gov" Redknapp.
Saint Ted will return, the curse will be lifted, all will be well as natural order eventually returns.

Jamaine Wright, Jason Euell, Alex Ostlund, Darren Powell, Chris Makin, Inigo Idiakez and Gregory Vignal????? How bad can the reserves really be for these donkeys to get anywhere near the first team. It's time to give McGoldrick more than 5mins! Give Hammill, Lancashire and Lallana a good run of 5 or so games. Whats the point of getting the boy on loan to sit on his backside all season.

Notice that all the talk of investment has gone spookily quiet again.... do they think we are completely f*cking stupid. There is no-one interested in us, no-one that is prepared to actually stick their hand in their pocket. The Board are taking the ****, and they must be stopped!!! Why have we heard NOTHING from them about takeover? I said it before, we are doomed Captain Mainwairing doomed!!!

Dan wrote:

sailor sam wrote: Hi Desperate Dan! How can you claim to own your ground if, as you say 'we have a kind of mortgate on it'? If you have ANY KIND OF MORTGAGE on the ground, then you DO NOT own it! Similarly, if you have a mortgage on your house, you do not own it, that is why the mortgage company holds the title deeds until the mortgage is paid off. Fratton Park may not be state of the art, but PORTSMOUTH FC, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, own it! What I do not understand, and I guess that many Stains fans are also mystified is, why, with all the money received from the sale of The Dell - a prime building site for housing - and many millions received from the sale of more players than I can call to mind, is the club in financial melt-down, and not even owning their own ground that was built on contaminated ground that was unfit for housing, and so at a lower market price? Mind you, with the dross that has performed on there since it was opened, the ground suffers from even worse contamination!

Sailor Sam - you indeed are correct sir. A mortgage does mean the lender holds the deeds... however being that I believe we do hold equity in the stadium we also have the responsibilities for the stadium and we also have the right to enhance, alter and such.... thus we are the owners albeit with a debt against it. However - despite my comments being somewhat weighty toward your Pompey associate, I actually have no issue nor criticism of you on the SFC boards... you are typically fair, witty and not insulting. Portsmouth are the only premier league team on the south coast - I do not dispute this. Saints are playing and operating poorly currently - but WE still harbour the long off aspirations of rejoining Pompey in the top flight someday. COYR!

AT LAST!

excuses excuses from the lame old scum. onlything sainst fans were good at was running away. glad to see scum go down

Oh my god you lot make me sick!!Get behind your team yeh they are having a bad run but you are ment to be supporters and i am glad i don't play for saints with sh1t supporters like you lot!!! no wonder they all want to leave......

Carol..spot on saints support has always been sh1t unlike ours which is the biggest and best on the south coast. scum always reckon they are better than us but the truth is now out

scum for league 1

Glad Ive got Aldershot Town to look at who are playong some brilliant brazailian football. Sundays first half was one of the most astonishing performances and should have been 5 up. Compare and contrast with Saints who are rudderless, clueless and ignorant and thats just the board and Lowes people. As for the team then its a shambles and disaster. Relegation stares in the face!

Why cna the reserves do it but these poor eprofoemers not.

Pearson as manager is a joke!

bluefever wrote:
excuses excuses from the lame old scum. onlything sainst fans were good at was running away. glad to see scum go down

Yep, another true blue on here...rings out loud and clear. You must be so proud of yourself?

bluefever wrote:
Carol..spot on saints support has always been sh1t unlike ours which is the biggest and best on the south coast. scum always reckon they are better than us but the truth is now out scum for league 1

How are you?

Echo wrote "THE few fans that came to St Mary's last night arrived desperate for a performance full of pride and passion ..." sums scum up, few fans, no passion hahahahahah scum going down

bluefever wrote:
Echo wrote "THE few fans that came to St Mary's last night arrived desperate for a performance full of pride and passion ..." sums scum up, few fans, no passion hahahahahah scum going down

You again..how old are you?

Are you the son of, or father of, or cousin of, or boyfriend of the big guy with the bell. You know the one with a fat belly and tattoos.

You must love Saints deep down, as your on here more than we are.....how sad is that!

Com'on Karl despair you canmake a better team sheet than that. After all Davies can play everywhere even though he wears his underpants outside his trousers.He needs support I suggest we put in the big pole in goal and leave Davies to do the rest,

Please explain to me how Jermaine Wright can throw the Captains armband on the floor in such a petulant manner and not be disciplined by the club?? He's brought the clubs name into disrepute by doing so...if we did that at work we'd be fired!! And please someone who doesn't agree with the booing and jeering explain to us how fans are meant to make there feelings known about players performances etc...queue up in a orderly fashion to speak to Nigel Pearson?? As three generations of Saints fans who all have season tickets we are as much entitled to voice our opinions as those who don't want to boo are...so don't critise us! We all have Saints in our heart but just choose different ways to show it...neither are wrong! COYR!

St Mark wrote:

Fingerpointer wrote: 1. Jermaine Wright was far from the worst player on the field last night. Booing him was negative and destructive. 2. I don't know Leon Crouch but I do know that he has been a Saints supporter all his life. That doesn't make him a good chairman but don't tell me that he doesn't care. 3. The team play as a set of individuals, worried about their own performances. They don't play as a team. No movement, no covering. Perhaps Pearon will sort that out.

I totally agree! Booing the players is gonna make things worse! Even if some of the youngsters come in, they will be nervous about making mistakes cos they know the crowd will get on their backs if they do! Just one more thing: I though that the singing coming out of the Northam stand last night was AWESOME - that's what the team needs!

What the team needs is about FIVE PLAYERS unfortunately the Tremendous Support that comes from the Northam is not and sadly will not bring the results as I simply dont believe they care anymore!

bluefever wrote:
Echo wrote "THE few fans that came to St Mary's last night arrived desperate for a performance full of pride and passion ..." sums scum up, few fans, no passion hahahahahah scum going down

Is Fred Dinage your dad??
It would explain alot.

german wright wrote:
sailor lover.who the **** are man united.thats your season out the window.as i thought run away.as for wright i saw him chuck the captains arm band last night.well he can suck sailor sams festering stump because he,s finished at sfc as far as im concerned.and what are the club going to do about.as per normal feck all

Honest! It was OK before german wright had a suck!
Bit of blow that!
What is the old saying?
One swallow does not make a summer!
Anyone else waiting for Mr Wright to come along!

Saint wrote:

Dan wrote:

sailor sam wrote: Hi Desperate Dan! How can you claim to own your ground if, as you say 'we have a kind of mortgate on it'? If you have ANY KIND OF MORTGAGE on the ground, then you DO NOT own it! Similarly, if you have a mortgage on your house, you do not own it, that is why the mortgage company holds the title deeds until the mortgage is paid off. Fratton Park may not be state of the art, but PORTSMOUTH FC, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, own it! What I do not understand, and I guess that many Stains fans are also mystified is, why, with all the money received from the sale of The Dell - a prime building site for housing - and many millions received from the sale of more players than I can call to mind, is the club in financial melt-down, and not even owning their own ground that was built on contaminated ground that was unfit for housing, and so at a lower market price? Mind you, with the dross that has performed on there since it was opened, the ground suffers from even worse contamination!

Sailor Sam - you indeed are correct sir. A mortgage does mean the lender holds the deeds... however being that I believe we do hold equity in the stadium we also have the responsibilities for the stadium and we also have the right to enhance, alter and such.... thus we are the owners albeit with a debt against it. However - despite my comments being somewhat weighty toward your Pompey associate, I actually have no issue nor criticism of you on the SFC boards... you are typically fair, witty and not insulting. Portsmouth are the only premier league team on the south coast - I do not dispute this. Saints are playing and operating poorly currently - but WE still harbour the long off aspirations of rejoining Pompey in the top flight someday. COYR!

AT LAST!

Hi Dan! Nice to have a reasoned comment.
Yes! The club have equity in the stadium but, as said, don't own it.
When I had a mortgage on my house, I had equity in it, was responsible for its upkeep, and should I have wished to extend or alter during the period of the mortgage, could have done so with the mortgage holder's permission.
If I had gone into financial melt-down before my mortgage was paid off, the mortgage holder could sell my house to recoup the ammount outstanding, plus the legal fees etc and the balance would be mine. The morgage holder would, however, only be interested in getting their money, not making a good deal me!
At a guess, I would say that SMS is owned by Friends Provident, so perhaps in some ways it may be a good idea to keep on the right side of Rupert!
Thanks for the personal comments.
The first professional football match that I attended was at The Dell, Div 3 (S), versus QPR. I think that Saints won, 3-2, and Joe Mallett, who played for QPR later moved to The Dell and if I remember correctly, was captain!

Perhaps that introduction to the professional game, drove me to the heady heights of Fratton Park!

Just between you and me, you can take quite a bit of what I say 'with a pinch of salt' - a gift from 'sailor sam'!

Perhaps Jermaine Wright threw down his captain's armband because, even with his minimal talent, he realised that almost everyone else in the team was worse than him! My hero!

Am I going mad... I went to bed, about 11.00pm last night, we'd lost to Plymouth abysmally... then, suddenly, I woke up - first back in 1976, then again in 1984. I was with D.C.I. Gene Hunt... one minute we'd won the FA Cup, next minute we were 2nd in the top division... am I going mad - surely that could never happen... COULD IT..??

captain klutz wrote:
Perhaps Jermaine Wright threw down his captain's armband because, even with his minimal talent, he realised that almost everyone else in the team was worse than him! My hero!

I think it's possibly that he can't part for SH!T

I remember, about a decade ago, watching Portsmouth losing to Bolton 3-0. I couldnt even see the game as Krap Nottarf was covered in fog. Of course Portsmouth own the ground, but even they dont want it, as its delapidated, falling apart, and 190 years old. I do wish these skate fans would stop coming on here to jeer. They all seem to be so inbred they even destroy theyre own city. As for Saints recent performance....i will just sigh.

bryan wrote:

captain klutz wrote: Perhaps Jermaine Wright threw down his captain's armband because, even with his minimal talent, he realised that almost everyone else in the team was worse than him! My hero!

I think it's possibly that he can't part for SH!T

....ar@e... it should have said pass not part...although its still possibly true

Hello all Saints fans,its me again Mr.Positive
you may remember at the start of the season that I predicted that Saints would finish in the top 10,well I have gone back to my prediction book to day,and it still tells me that saints will still finish the season in the top 10,so all saints fans out there don't worry.
oh by the way if it is any help to you,the prediction book also tells me that Portsmouth
will get a good thrashing by Man.Unt in the F.A cup.
sweet dreams all Saints Fans
Mr. Positive 100%

Thorshammer wrote:
Hi Sam I've missed you, nice to see you back reading the paper and commenting on the articles in your usual polite and articulate manner. I have spotted a faux pas as you might say, did you mean to say state of the ark or art?. As most timber buildings in skate city are made of wood from 1815 I presume you mean ark.

Hello my Nordic Legend!
Actually, it could be termed 'state of the art' with it's Archibald Leitch frontage to the South Stand now, unfortunately covered first by advertising material, now by 'Hostility' sorry, 'Hospitality' seating.
State of the Ark? The East and West Stands at The Dell were similar.
State of the Ark! Well! Pompey are afloat, but it would appear that your team are more in danger of doing a Titanic!
I am not aware of any wooden houses in THE CITY THAT BOASTS THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM ON THE SOUTH COAST, but you can be assured that if there are any, like the Ark and HMS Victory, they would be craftsman built and not RIVETED!!!

ps. No! I might not say, 'faux pas'! Next, you will accuse me of making a mistake!!

John wrote:
Unfortunately this is what happens when other clubs are taken over by multi-billionaire American businessmen and offshore consortia, while Saints get acquired by a house builder from Liverpool and a factory owner from Lymington. Saints Go Wilde, indeed.

YES,I MUST AGREE.HOW ON EARTH WERE THESE TWO ABLE TO GET ON THE SAINTS BOARD?IT SEEMS LIKE WATCHING THE MUPPET SHOW THESE DAYS.WE HAVE BEEN USED TO RUPERTS INTEGRITY FOR SO LONG.NOW WE HAVE MCMENEMY SAYING A FORTNIGHT AGO THAT GORMAN AND DODD WERE HERE FOR THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE'BETTER PERFORMANCES AND THE SQUAD FULLY BACKING THEM',A WEEK LATER....WE HAVE WILDE WITH HIS SUPPOSED MILLIONS GONE ABSENT.WE HAVE CROUCH RUNNING AROUND LIKE HEADLESS CHICKEN TRYING DESPERATELY TO SELL US.WE HAVE WISEMAN WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOO FRIGHTENED TO COME TO THE AGM JUST IN CASE HE WAS VOTED OUT.
OH PLEASE CAN WE HAVE OUR LEADER BACK WITH ASKHAM,COWAN AND RICHARDS AND WITH IT SOME RESPECT AGAIN.AT THE MOMENT OUR BOARDS INEPTNESS IS PERMEATING RIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE CLUB AND CAUSING LONG TERM DAMAGE TO NOT ONLY THE FIRST TEAM,BUT DOWN THROUGH TO THE ACADEMY AFTER SO MUCH GOOD HARD WORK WAS PUT DURING RUPERTS CHAIRMANSHIP.I ONLY HAVE THREE HUNDRED SHARES AND OWN MY LITTLE SLICE OF THE CLUB,AND AS A SUPPORTER FOR OVER 40 YEARS PLEAD WITH THOSE A THE TOP TO GO.YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE AND YOU'VE MESSED IT UP!

Sure there is plenty wrong at the Club but the sh1ts in the Northam who boo their own team during the game are not supporters and should be ashamed. If you can't support and get behind the team when they most need it, f*ck off. You are worse than Skates.

After spending the last 30 mins reading all the comments, i agree with almost every1 except the scates. SFC were 1 of the longest standing teams in the top flight of english football and have had great players wear the shirt with pride over the years, the dell was a fortress teams did not like to come and play at. But how many of those players are now involed in the club and how many young talent from the city play for the club. We are all to blame you the current situation, so we should all knucle together. load of rubbish some might say here why. well i don't get to see alot of games because of work etc,but do tune in or watch games on tv and buy as much merchadise as posible to support my club but when i see fans leaving after a game weather we win or lose they look and act the same. also when we got to the cup final with arsenal, thier should of been a parade(just for the achievement). if sfc and the fans are like a middle class person with a big house in the county but with the personality of a traffic warden. if a scate fan walked through west quay on a sat afternoon they might at most get a few heckles,but if a saint fan walked through gunwolf on a sat afternoon he probly would not come out with his shirt on his back and the people that would off done it would of been from all walks of life. My point being we should aim to be the best at everything. fans,football,pride,

soul,spirit and defend our club and city at the drop of a hat. that is why the man.u,liverpools,etc have got where they are and money did not start that.

Dowayne wrote:
After spending the last 30 mins reading all the comments, i agree with almost every1 except the scates. SFC were 1 of the longest standing teams in the top flight of english football and have had great players wear the shirt with pride over the years, the dell was a fortress teams did not like to come and play at. But how many of those players are now involed in the club and how many young talent from the city play for the club. We are all to blame you the current situation, so we should all knucle together. load of rubbish some might say here why. well i don't get to see alot of games because of work etc,but do tune in or watch games on tv and buy as much merchadise as posible to support my club but when i see fans leaving after a game weather we win or lose they look and act the same. also when we got to the cup final with arsenal, thier should of been a parade(just for the achievement). if sfc and the fans are like a middle class person with a big house in the county but with the personality of a traffic warden. if a scate fan walked through west quay on a sat afternoon they might at most get a few heckles,but if a saint fan walked through gunwolf on a sat afternoon he probly would not come out with his shirt on his back and the people that would off done it would of been from all walks of life. My point being we should aim to be the best at everything. fans,football,pride, soul,spirit and defend our club and city at the drop of a hat. that is why the man.u,liverpools,etc have got where they are and money did not start that.

Sorry Dowayne, you have got a few things wrong (other than your spelling)!
If you walked through GUNWHARF Quay, wearing a red and white striped shirt, people would probably be looking for your begging bowl, as they would think you were trying to raise cash for your club that is in financial melt-down!
So! Stains WERE one of the longest standing teams in the top flight! WERE! Past Tense! History! About time you learned from History, and built on it, rather than just living on the memories! Maybe! Just Maybe, if you had kept some of your talent, instead of cashing in on it, you would still be in the Premier League, alongside PORTSMOUTH, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST!
How would a parade through the City, after your game with Arsenal change your present situation? You are living in the past!

Your final point! I have read through your list, and to non-SFC supporters, it would appear that you have failed on every one.

Instead of Directors, players and fans all pulling in different directions, they should all pull together and work to extract yourselves from the mire you find yourselves in.

The problems you face are of your own making. The only contribution the Pompey made was to give you a 4 - 1 footballing lesson in the season you were relegated!
So! Blame the Board! Blame the Players! Blame your fans!
But DON'T BLAME ME OR PFC!

On the plus side it was good that the fans had a chance to demonstrate their feelings to the new boss. That must have left a lasting impression on him. He knows what we think of Euell....that's a start.

Sorry Dowayne, you have got a few things wrong (other than your spelling)!
If you walked through GUNWHARF Quay, wearing a red and white striped shirt, people would probably be looking for your begging bowl, as they would think you were trying to raise cash for your club that is in financial melt-down!
So! Stains WERE one of the longest standing teams in the top flight! WERE! Past Tense! History! About time you learned from History, and built on it, rather than just living on the memories! Maybe! Just Maybe, if you had kept some of your talent, instead of cashing in on it, you would still be in the Premier League, alongside PORTSMOUTH, THE ONLY PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST!
How would a parade through the City, after your game with Arsenal change your present situation? You are living in the past!

Your final point! I have read through your list, and to non-SFC supporters, it would appear that you have failed on every one.

Instead of Directors, players and fans all pulling in different directions, they should all pull together and work to extract yourselves from the mire you find yourselves in.

The problems you face are of your own making. The only contribution the Pompey made was to give you a 4 - 1 footballing lesson in the season you were relegated!
So! Blame the Board! Blame the Players! Blame your fans!
But DON'T BLAME ME OR PFC!

Sailor sam, don't weather your a woman or a man. or a man that dressess as a woman. but 1 thing i do know is that i can spell saints.I don't think you understood what was put in my previous post, in football the key to success comes from your roots your hisory that you take forward. when saint got to the cup final the cty was buzzing on the way to. But after the clubfans etc, should of captured that spirit by celebrating ad taking he high into the next season. Intead we lost andthe message sent out i feel was back to the start again. 90% of football is about psychology that is the only reason will lost at fratton park. To be hnest with you i`d think having saints and pompey in da prem is great by every1,brings in money,investment and show cases each city's pride to the world.