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Crouch's apology to Saints fans

7:38am Thursday 13th March 2008

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SAINTS chairman Leon Crouch apologised to fans last night for the club's current plight - but reiterated his belief that new investment would be found "hopefully within six to nine months."

Crouch was speaking before the Dell Spirit Rally at Central Hall, St Mary's, organised by the Southampton Independent Supporters Association.

Despite the group expecting more than 700 people to turn up for the chance to quiz boss Nigel Pearson, Crouch and fellow directors such as Lawrie McMenemy, just 75 had arrived by the time the meeting started at 8pm, half an hour late.

The Daily Echo was also forced to leave before proceedings began, with SISA representatives saying the club had threatened to walk out if members of the press remained.

But, ahead of the forum, Crouch told the Daily Echo: "We can't hide the fact that the fans deserve better and I'm sorry about that.

"Eighteen months ago, when Rupert (Lowe) resigned and Michael (Wilde) took over, we all thought the club had a different future and we'd get back to the Premier-ship. But things haven't worked out that way.

"We've drawn a line under that and are moving forward. We have a united board now and I believe the fans realise I am doing my best.

"We are trying to get investment. It's not easy but I believe we will get the investment the club needs.

"I can't guarantee when, but hopefully with-in six to nine months - in time for us to mount a serious challenge next season to get back to where we belong, in the Premiership."

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ANGRY AGAIN, SOUTHAMPTON says...
7:56am Thu 13 Mar 08

SIX TO NINE MONTHS?

WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SINCE YOU GOT THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN BACK?

YOUR STATEMENT SHOULD SURELY HAVE SAID SIX TO NINE DAYS! AFTER ALL, WE KEEP HEARING STORIES OF TAKEOVER BIDS.

GET THE FINANCIAL SIDE SORTED OUT NOW AND THEN PEARSON CAN CONCVENTRATE ON GETTING THE PLAYING SIDE RIGHT - HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SO FAR - LETS HOPE A CLUB WITH MORE AMBITION THAN SOUTHAMPTON DONT LURE HIM AWAY (AFTER ALL, I EXPECT HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES IN THE SUMMER)

AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!

John B, Bitterne says...
8:08am Thu 13 Mar 08

ANGRY AGAIN wrote:
SIX TO NINE MONTHS? WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SINCE YOU GOT THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN BACK? YOUR STATEMENT SHOULD SURELY HAVE SAID SIX TO NINE DAYS! AFTER ALL, WE KEEP HEARING STORIES OF TAKEOVER BIDS. GET THE FINANCIAL SIDE SORTED OUT NOW AND THEN PEARSON CAN CONCVENTRATE ON GETTING THE PLAYING SIDE RIGHT - HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SO FAR - LETS HOPE A CLUB WITH MORE AMBITION THAN SOUTHAMPTON DONT LURE HIM AWAY (AFTER ALL, I EXPECT HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES IN THE SUMMER) AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!
I agree if this Investment is not sorted out in the next few months how can we assemble a team for Promotion

We need at least two defenders to replace Claus and Darren Powell

Another Fullback may be two to replace Makin

We need Midfielders to replace Hammill Wright and probably Dyer

WE need at least two strikers without money Promotion is only a Dream

dissapointed, at work says...
8:24am Thu 13 Mar 08

In 6 months the summer transfer window will be closed !

In 9 months the January window will be upon us !!

I guess their aiming for season 2009 - 2010 why don't they just come out and say it ?


Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:35am Thu 13 Mar 08

Interesting that the meeting took place in a church, they should be issuing the last rites!

Portswood Pete, says...
8:40am Thu 13 Mar 08

Poor old Leon, hailed as the new messiah, a proper Saints fan dotchaknow, when he sided with Wilde to oust Lowe and will get, rightly, flamed for his mis-handling of Saints since then. It's not "investment" we need, if I "invested" in Saints it would mean buying shares, nothing more. What we need is to work within our means, steered by a board who know what they're doing and not hope some imaginary rich bloke with more money than sense will come in and blow millions on taking us further.

Pedant, says...
8:47am Thu 13 Mar 08

Condor Man wrote:
Interesting that the meeting took place in a church, they should be issuing the last rites!
Central Hall is a church? No Mr Man, you jest surely? It's a hall! No font, no pulpit, no pews, no organ, no vicar and no people last night (well hardly any).

Big Banana, Tadley says...
8:55am Thu 13 Mar 08

More Empty promises with very little really disclosed. Nine Months ? are we hoping to promote sexual activity rather than the team. No Money - No Board - No Faith. Bring back Lowe!!!

parthian, Winchester says...
8:56am Thu 13 Mar 08

700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.

John, Sydenham says...
9:23am Thu 13 Mar 08

Dear Leon, Why don't you stick to running your factory rather than trying to manage a football club. I don't doubt your committment to Southampton Football Club but I'm afraid that you do not possess the leadership skills required for the job. Regards, John, Sydenham.

AK47, Downtown Basra says...
9:28am Thu 13 Mar 08

Crouch is quoted as saying the folowing "I believe the fans realise I am doing my best".

Your more deluded than I gave you credit for Mr Crouch , If you think we the fans believe your doing your best, then I suggest you take a reality check. Your seen as a big joke and a chancer. When you became chair back in December you said that you would see investment in 4/6 months. now 3.5months on you have now said 6/9 months. Stop lying to us Mr Crouch and be honest to the fans for once. If we are deep in the mire then let as know.

Oh and Im not some 16 year old Chav of a fan I have supported saints for four decades. You, Hone and Wilde have brought nothing but disgrace to the club since you came to power.

As for a united board that might be true but you dont have a united shareholder base do you.

sailor sam, portsmouth says...
9:48am Thu 13 Mar 08

WHAT A FIASCO!

Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start!
After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up!
Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land!
Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour!
In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend!
The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!

Thorshammer, Valhalla says...
9:48am Thu 13 Mar 08

Dear Leon,
We want to get back to the Premier League.
Your use of the word Premiership shows your lack of football knowledge.
In nine months we will be in the middle of the campaign to get back at the fourth attempt.
With no investment we will have a squad of journeymen and kids which is not acceptable to the supporters of this club.
If I left it to my summer holidays to sort out my job I would expect to be sacked.

Saints Fan, Top 19 says...
10:01am Thu 13 Mar 08

sailor sam wrote:
WHAT A FIASCO!

Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start!
After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up!
Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land!
Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour!
In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend!
The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.

Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
10:10am Thu 13 Mar 08

parthian wrote:
700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.
You think the low turn-out is funny?

I think it's shameful!

Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.

Portswood Pete, says...
10:17am Thu 13 Mar 08

Gerald Whiley wrote:
parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.
You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.
Actually Gerald it says more about Chorley and Co. than it does about us Saints fans, I'll have nothing to do with anything these "fans" are involved in. Look at his quote on the OS and you'll see he is still waging his class war against Lowe after 10 years.

Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas. says...
10:41am Thu 13 Mar 08

Pedant wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Interesting that the meeting took place in a church, they should be issuing the last rites!
Central Hall is a church? No Mr Man, you jest surely? It's a hall! No font, no pulpit, no pews, no organ, no vicar and no people last night (well hardly any).
I seem to recollect a magnificent organ in Central Hall and it is a place of Christian worship which in my book makes it a church.

formerly optimistic, salisbury says...
10:42am Thu 13 Mar 08

I thought that 'imminent' meant soon...

I'll get on to the Oxford English dictionary to tell them their error...

Saint, says...
10:45am Thu 13 Mar 08

Mr Crouch you are enjoying that seat too much!!

A few months before GB left you talked of weeks, now some months later, you are talking 6 to 9 months!Are you trying a devise your own rolling contract?

In 3 to 6 months, are you going to come out with yet another story for more months?

The longer you drag this on, the more you are going to screw up next season promotion push and signing the players we need to get us out of this crap fizzy league!

Stop apologising to appeal to our good nature and pull your finger and do the job at hand, for the love of the SOUTHAMPTON F.C. And realise the danger you are putting us in with lenghty delays rolling on!

We know it not simple, BUT SIMPLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AND REALISE THE URGENTCEY FOR US TO GET THE INVESTMENT, SO AS WE ARE NOT WASTING ANOTHER / NEXT SEASON IN THE F##KING LEAGUE!!

formerly optimistic, salisbury says...
11:12am Thu 13 Mar 08

Saint wrote:
Mr Crouch you are enjoying that seat too much!! A few months before GB left you talked of weeks, now some months later, you are talking 6 to 9 months!Are you trying a devise your own rolling contract? In 3 to 6 months, are you going to come out with yet another story for more months? The longer you drag this on, the more you are going to screw up next season promotion push and signing the players we need to get us out of this crap fizzy league! Stop apologising to appeal to our good nature and pull your finger and do the job at hand, for the love of the SOUTHAMPTON F.C. And realise the danger you are putting us in with lenghty delays rolling on! We know it not simple, BUT SIMPLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AND REALISE THE URGENTCEY FOR US TO GET THE INVESTMENT, SO AS WE ARE NOT WASTING ANOTHER / NEXT SEASON IN THE F##KING LEAGUE!!
Well said sir!

What i would like to know is how the hell these people on the board of SFC became successful enough in business to become "board material". The laughable persistent reports of investment smack of desperation. Who, if they have the money, would want to hand over the millions that we need whilst we are the current position. Even the lifelong fans that have this week been linked are not fools, but I sincerely hope that their hearts are really with the club and that we can start to look forward again...

Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
11:28am Thu 13 Mar 08

Portswood Pete wrote:
Gerald Whiley wrote:
parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.
You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.
Actually Gerald it says more about Chorley and Co. than it does about us Saints fans, I'll have nothing to do with anything these "fans" are involved in. Look at his quote on the OS and you'll see he is still waging his class war against Lowe after 10 years.
I have attended many SISA meetings and to be quite frank, I have never understood these opinions on Richard Chorley.

Over the years, he has learnt a great deal about the inner workings of the club and he has then relayed that information to the fans with clarity and passion. Why people have an issue with that, I cannot comprehend.
Last night, the fans had a wonderful opportunity to spend an evening asking questions of the Manager, Chairman and Directors of our club, but instead they stayed away.

I think it very sad that many supporters missed last night, only to sit at home in front of the TV.

the real one, soton says...
11:28am Thu 13 Mar 08

formerly optimistic wrote:
Saint wrote: Mr Crouch you are enjoying that seat too much!! A few months before GB left you talked of weeks, now some months later, you are talking 6 to 9 months!Are you trying a devise your own rolling contract? In 3 to 6 months, are you going to come out with yet another story for more months? The longer you drag this on, the more you are going to screw up next season promotion push and signing the players we need to get us out of this crap fizzy league! Stop apologising to appeal to our good nature and pull your finger and do the job at hand, for the love of the SOUTHAMPTON F.C. And realise the danger you are putting us in with lenghty delays rolling on! We know it not simple, BUT SIMPLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AND REALISE THE URGENTCEY FOR US TO GET THE INVESTMENT, SO AS WE ARE NOT WASTING ANOTHER / NEXT SEASON IN THE F##KING LEAGUE!!
Well said sir! What i would like to know is how the hell these people on the board of SFC became successful enough in business to become "board material". The laughable persistent reports of investment smack of desperation. Who, if they have the money, would want to hand over the millions that we need whilst we are the current position. Even the lifelong fans that have this week been linked are not fools, but I sincerely hope that their hearts are really with the club and that we can start to look forward again...
expected 700...only 75 turn up. sums up scum fans well

sailor sam, portsmouth says...
11:34am Thu 13 Mar 08

Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons!
Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors?
If they are, how has that come about?
Were they the ones 'who did something', while the rest of the customers were saying, 'someone must do something'?
If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the 'customers' are to blame for their apathy!
The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested!

Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned?
Did you have to belong to a 'fans group' to attend?
Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience?
If you look at other 'Echo' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their 'whinges and whines' can be addressed?
What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold?

HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?


AK47, Downtown Basra says...
11:38am Thu 13 Mar 08

Just seen the write up on the OS about the SISA appreciation Society meeting lastnight
The club need to get real, if they think the likes of Foley, Mcmillan and Comrade chorley
are representative of the saints fans
They are not and never will be.

Reading about the meeting made me cringe. LM and Crouch sucking up to the likes of Chorley.
Clearly LM has as bigger B in his bonnet as chorley about the last 10 years of the club.
As someone on the board , He should draw a line under what has happened previously and move on. By keep regurgitating your disgust about what happen previously LM , you are only hampering the progression of the club. Do the right thing and book yourself into the Cedar lawn residential home in braisfield road.
You will feel at home.

AK47, Downtown Basra says...
11:48am Thu 13 Mar 08

George Wiley
you obviously have never been on the ned of Chorley and Co's bullying tactics and threats if you have differing views to them. If you had then you would understand the negativity towards them. When have they ever done anything positive for all saints fans or the club, They only seem to rear their ugly heads when the club is going through a lean spell or thety are fighting a class war against the likes of the previous chairman etc
As for Sailor Sam , yes its easy to mock from skatesville, and your on a high at the moment. but just think a few years ago your club was in dire straights and you probably experienced the crap we are enduring. Im sure you had a group of class warriors who claimed they spoke for the majority of the skates fans at the time but in reality only spoke for their own intentions. So By all means mock us, I used to mock the slime when you were languishing in the footholds of the division we are now in.
but at least appreciate the crap and lies we are being spun by our once great club.

Saint, says...
11:53am Thu 13 Mar 08

AK47 wrote:
Just seen the write up on the OS about the SISA appreciation Society meeting lastnight The club need to get real, if they think the likes of Foley, Mcmillan and Comrade chorley are representative of the saints fans They are not and never will be. Reading about the meeting made me cringe. LM and Crouch sucking up to the likes of Chorley. Clearly LM has as bigger B in his bonnet as chorley about the last 10 years of the club. As someone on the board , He should draw a line under what has happened previously and move on. By keep regurgitating your disgust about what happen previously LM , you are only hampering the progression of the club. Do the right thing and book yourself into the Cedar lawn residential home in braisfield road. You will feel at home.
Agreed!

Also Nick Illingpratt is a total embrarresment to all Saint fans when he comes on the media talking on our behalf!

Sally Hamilton, Southampton says...
11:55am Thu 13 Mar 08

I am sorry?!!! Crouch is a joke. He is merely one of the idiots that are seeming to put a halt to new investment. The only thing I can hope is that Wilde Crouch and Lowe all meet up and have a freek clay pigeon accident so that our club can move on. No-one is interested in buying us with those 3 idiots holding us back. They dont care about the club, its all about making sure they get money into their pockets. How they have the face to even step out of their front doors is beyond me. How can they sleep at night? I think we should get all the fans to invest and buy the club and take us forward! I am willing to start the investment!

Rich, London says...
11:55am Thu 13 Mar 08

AK47 wrote:
Just seen the write up on the OS about the SISA appreciation Society meeting lastnight The club need to get real, if they think the likes of Foley, Mcmillan and Comrade chorley are representative of the saints fans They are not and never will be. Reading about the meeting made me cringe. LM and Crouch sucking up to the likes of Chorley. Clearly LM has as bigger B in his bonnet as chorley about the last 10 years of the club. As someone on the board , He should draw a line under what has happened previously and move on. By keep regurgitating your disgust about what happen previously LM , you are only hampering the progression of the club. Do the right thing and book yourself into the Cedar lawn residential home in braisfield road. You will feel at home.
The Club turned out in force to meet supporters. They dont distinguish about SISA or the personalities of the individuals - why should they? They were asked to attend a supporters meeting and they did. All the senior people came along, despite knowing that the mood of the fans is pretty low.

Why werent you there to make your own points if you feel so differently to the people you mention? I wish I had been. Plenty of criticism on here but at least some people got off their backsides and tried to build links with the club again. If only more people took more positive steps, instead of slagging off those who do, via a keyboard.

Kingsland Stan, Northam says...
11:58am Thu 13 Mar 08

Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I wouldn't stand in the same bus stop as Chorley or Illingsworth and I know many LOYAL supporters who would not either.

They do not represent the majority of Saints fans and that's why the hundreds wouldn't turn out to support them. I'm only sorry that Lawrie and others still pander to their egos and give them a platform.

John, Sydenham says...
12:11pm Thu 13 Mar 08

sailor sam wrote:
Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons!
Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors?
If they are, how has that come about?
Were they the ones 'who did something', while the rest of the customers were saying, 'someone must do something'?
If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the 'customers' are to blame for their apathy!
The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested!

Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned?
Did you have to belong to a 'fans group' to attend?
Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience?
If you look at other 'Echo' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their 'whinges and whines' can be addressed?
What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold?

HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?

Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary's is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at "fans' forums" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing "sack the board" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.

sailor sam, portsmouth says...
12:15pm Thu 13 Mar 08

AK47 wrote:
George Wiley you obviously have never been on the ned of Chorley and Co's bullying tactics and threats if you have differing views to them. If you had then you would understand the negativity towards them. When have they ever done anything positive for all saints fans or the club, They only seem to rear their ugly heads when the club is going through a lean spell or thety are fighting a class war against the likes of the previous chairman etc As for Sailor Sam , yes its easy to mock from skatesville, and your on a high at the moment. but just think a few years ago your club was in dire straights and you probably experienced the crap we are enduring. Im sure you had a group of class warriors who claimed they spoke for the majority of the skates fans at the time but in reality only spoke for their own intentions. So By all means mock us, I used to mock the slime when you were languishing in the footholds of the division we are now in. but at least appreciate the crap and lies we are being spun by our once great club.
YOU ARE WRONG AK47!

I am not mocking, but asking simple questions that you do not appear to either understand, or are unwilling to answer!

Yes! Pompey were in trouble, BIG TROUBLE, a few years back, and the actions taken by UNITED supporters was chronicled in The News and was featured on both local TV channels!

We did not sit around, demanding that someone else did something! We worked TOGETHER! UNITED! Something that I have urged on your 'customers' for a considerable period, and have taken a load of abuse for it!

We did not climb out of 'slime' we found ourselves in, that you now occupy, by whinging and whining!

We had meetings - AND THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED, AND WE GOT THINGS DONE!

Were you at yesterday evening's meeting?

I guess not, as your first paragraph would indicated that your fear of Chorley & Co was greater than your desire to help SFC out of it's current mess!

Until you all stop fighting amongst yourselves, and unite to do something positive for your club, then the future does not look good for you, the customer or the club itself!

STILL WAITING ON ANSWERS TO MY LAST NOTE!


Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
12:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08

The meeting was a public meeting - open to all - as always.

Regarding this talk of a 'class war against the previous regime' and 'SISA do not represent the majority of Saints fans'... I remember when, as one, all four sides of St. mary's spontaniously stood and chanted for Lowe to be removed - that is something no supporters group could ever have organised.

Also, I am not aware of SISA ever saying they spoke on behalf of all Saints fans.

But I do remember attending fantastic forums with Bally, Souness&Benali and Dave Jones and the fact of the matter is that last night was an opportunity missed by 100's of fans; a night when they had the opportunity to put their question to the new manager and the directors.

Wills, says...
12:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Sally Hamilton wrote:
I am sorry?!!! Crouch is a joke. He is merely one of the idiots that are seeming to put a halt to new investment. The only thing I can hope is that Wilde Crouch and Lowe all meet up and have a freek clay pigeon accident so that our club can move on. No-one is interested in buying us with those 3 idiots holding us back. They dont care about the club, its all about making sure they get money into their pockets. How they have the face to even step out of their front doors is beyond me. How can they sleep at night? I think we should get all the fans to invest and buy the club and take us forward! I am willing to start the investment!
Well said.

Paddy B The Exiled Saint., Shropshire says...
12:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Although it was possible for me to attend, even for a Season Ticket Holder and Saints Anorak like me. (One journey down to Southampton per week is enough thank you!).

Having such an obvious poor attendance must surely indicate to those in charge of the club that must now consider broadening it support feedback base. That is if they genuinely want ceditable and honest feedback.

However, I have the feeling it was courtsey meeting to thank those for getting certain members back on the Board.

I exempt Nigel Pearson, he is an innocent in these proceeding. But he should be warned about the company he has to keep!

Dump the Dell... It was a Dump. And stop looking backwards, the Saints best days are in the future NOT in the past.

Listen to the real supporters not the moronic mob!


CHAPEL CHAP, SOUTHAMPTON says...
12:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08

I am very confused by the comment by GERALD WHILEY,you say you cannot comprehend the issue and reaction given by many to the way messrs Chorley,Foley ,Macmillan etc show their passion for Saints. Do you not see through them like the rest of us, that they are only in it for themselves, their own ego trips. If they really relay the inner workings of the club so wonderfully to the rest of us, and are not seen to be massaging their own egos why are they not championed by the masses (not only 75 people). I also expect that a fair number of the 'fans' who turned up last night hadnt even been to St Marys all season ,but just saw it as a chance to be seen and heard without having to dip into their pockets.

sailor sam, portsmouth says...
12:50pm Thu 13 Mar 08

John wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?
Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.
Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING!
How do these people reach these 'positions of influence' if it is not because of so-called 'supporters' apathy?
Instead of people rushing to put notes on here, they need to read what others are saying!
THEY ALL WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING!
It would appear to me, an outsider, that Chorley, Illinsworth&Co that you criticise, are the ones that, at one time, DID attempt to do something!
They MUST have had backing!
If not, WHO opposed them?
Is there a Supporters Club other than SISA?
If not, WHY NOT?
The answere is, I suppose, EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ORGANISE IT!

IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THERE IS MORE TIME AN EFFORT SPENT ON THESE PAGES, SLAGGING OFF PFC, ITS CHAIRMAN, ITS MANAGER, ITS GROUND, ITS TEAM, WHERE IT TRAINS AND ITS FANS, THAN GOES INTO DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CLUB THAT YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT!

POMPEY WENT DOWN TO THE OLD DIVISION 4!

LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! GET ORGANISED!

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TAKE IT! DON'T LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND MOAN ABOUT IT LATER!



John, Sydenham says...
1:06pm Thu 13 Mar 08

sailor sam wrote:
John wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?
Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.
Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING!
How do these people reach these 'positions of influence' if it is not because of so-called 'supporters' apathy?
Instead of people rushing to put notes on here, they need to read what others are saying!
THEY ALL WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING!
It would appear to me, an outsider, that Chorley, Illinsworth&Co that you criticise, are the ones that, at one time, DID attempt to do something!
They MUST have had backing!
If not, WHO opposed them?
Is there a Supporters Club other than SISA?
If not, WHY NOT?
The answere is, I suppose, EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ORGANISE IT!

IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THERE IS MORE TIME AN EFFORT SPENT ON THESE PAGES, SLAGGING OFF PFC, ITS CHAIRMAN, ITS MANAGER, ITS GROUND, ITS TEAM, WHERE IT TRAINS AND ITS FANS, THAN GOES INTO DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CLUB THAT YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT!

POMPEY WENT DOWN TO THE OLD DIVISION 4!

LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! GET ORGANISED!

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TAKE IT! DON'T LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND MOAN ABOUT IT LATER!


Thanks for your advice. I have now formed an independent supporter group and am now the voice of all Saints fans. Would you like to join?

jannersaint, Plymuff says...
1:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Portswood Pete wrote:
Poor old Leon, hailed as the new messiah, a proper Saints fan dotchaknow, when he sided with Wilde to oust Lowe and will get, rightly, flamed for his mis-handling of Saints since then. It\'s not \"investment\" we need, if I \"invested\" in Saints it would mean buying shares, nothing more. What we need is to work within our means, steered by a board who know what they\'re doing and not hope some imaginary rich bloke with more money than sense will come in and blow millions on taking us further.
Well said. We have a much better squad than Plymouth and they are 7th....why? Dont care why! All I know is we have a manager I trust and with a few careful free agents in the summer and cutting our cloth (Claus and Powell etc) we can achieve a playoff place comfortably.

waggy, N. Yorks says...
1:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08

sailor sam wrote:
AK47 wrote: George Wiley you obviously have never been on the ned of Chorley and Co\\\'s bullying tactics and threats if you have differing views to them. If you had then you would understand the negativity towards them. When have they ever done anything positive for all saints fans or the club, They only seem to rear their ugly heads when the club is going through a lean spell or thety are fighting a class war against the likes of the previous chairman etc As for Sailor Sam , yes its easy to mock from skatesville, and your on a high at the moment. but just think a few years ago your club was in dire straights and you probably experienced the crap we are enduring. Im sure you had a group of class warriors who claimed they spoke for the majority of the skates fans at the time but in reality only spoke for their own intentions. So By all means mock us, I used to mock the slime when you were languishing in the footholds of the division we are now in. but at least appreciate the crap and lies we are being spun by our once great club.
YOU ARE WRONG AK47! I am not mocking, but asking simple questions that you do not appear to either understand, or are unwilling to answer! Yes! Pompey were in trouble, BIG TROUBLE, a few years back, and the actions taken by UNITED supporters was chronicled in The News and was featured on both local TV channels! We did not sit around, demanding that someone else did something! We worked TOGETHER! UNITED! Something that I have urged on your \\\'customers\\\' for a considerable period, and have taken a load of abuse for it! We did not climb out of \\\'slime\\\' we found ourselves in, that you now occupy, by whinging and whining! We had meetings - AND THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED, AND WE GOT THINGS DONE! Were you at yesterday evening\\\'s meeting? I guess not, as your first paragraph would indicated that your fear of Chorley & Co was greater than your desire to help SFC out of it\\\'s current mess! Until you all stop fighting amongst yourselves, and unite to do something positive for your club, then the future does not look good for you, the customer or the club itself! STILL WAITING ON ANSWERS TO MY LAST NOTE!
... the only reason that P*rtsm*outh managed to "climb out of 'slime'" was that a wealthy, more money than sense, benefactor waved a big fat cheque book. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want the same for SFC, but don't try and make it into something it wasn't. PFC at that time were getting gates of 6-10k per game, thats hardly backing and fighting for your club!

Rich, London says...
1:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08

CHAPEL CHAP wrote:
I am very confused by the comment by GERALD WHILEY,you say you cannot comprehend the issue and reaction given by many to the way messrs Chorley,Foley ,Macmillan etc show their passion for Saints. Do you not see through them like the rest of us, that they are only in it for themselves, their own ego trips. If they really relay the inner workings of the club so wonderfully to the rest of us, and are not seen to be massaging their own egos why are they not championed by the masses (not only 75 people). I also expect that a fair number of the \'fans\' who turned up last night hadnt even been to St Marys all season ,but just saw it as a chance to be seen and heard without having to dip into their pockets. I dont give a monkeys about the individuals you mention and I dont understand why so many on here are obsessed about them.

If so many of you feel strongly that you have different views from those supporters who organised a meeting, arranged a venue and then did raise some points last night, why dont you either attend, or organise you own, larger, much more representative meeting if thats what believe you can do? I wish I had been there, not to listen to other Saints fans but to listen to NP and Lawrie and the board, and to ask my own questions. As it is, I am interested in what they had to say.

AK47, Downtowwn Basra says...
1:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08

George and Sailor Sam

The reason I was not at the meeting is twofold. One is Im currently out of the country
!!!!!. secondly is I have no faith in the way chorley and co conduct themselves.

As for Sailor Sam, yes we are in sorry state, We do not have a collective fan base, we should have that I agree. But the SISA bods are not the ones to unite the majority of fans.
I wish I could do more. but there are so many fickle fans about at present. I wish I had a magic wand I could wave to make everybody including myself to sing from the same hymm book. but alas that is not going to happen

Zambucco, Rownhams says...
1:46pm Thu 13 Mar 08

It is wonderful that some supporters are passionate enough to organise an open meeting with management, it's their choice. The fact that far fewer attended than expected is not an indication of any lack of passion. Only in my opinion is that, the ordinary folk just want to see their team play well, have some small success, that befits their heritage, with Saints that would be a position inthe Premier League, with the occasional decent cup run and an odd appearance on the European stage.
They do not want and do not need to know of what goes on behind the scenes.
When I grew up supporting Saints, I knew tha players, the Manager (Ted Bates)and possibly the trainer. That's all I needed and wanted to know.
The united front I'd like to see is, ordinary folks enjoying watching their team surrounded by like minded folks. Not the wingeing know alls that seem to occupy every other seat. Constantly moaning about the team, players or style of play, this is not 'supporting'.

We need to get behind the Manager and players and forget everything else.

When the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that number


I'm proud to be a Saints fan no matter what!

crew 657, st marys says...
3:07pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Zambucco wrote:
It is wonderful that some supporters are passionate enough to organise an open meeting with management, it's their choice. The fact that far fewer attended than expected is not an indication of any lack of passion. Only in my opinion is that, the ordinary folk just want to see their team play well, have some small success, that befits their heritage, with Saints that would be a position inthe Premier League, with the occasional decent cup run and an odd appearance on the European stage. They do not want and do not need to know of what goes on behind the scenes. When I grew up supporting Saints, I knew tha players, the Manager (Ted Bates)and possibly the trainer. That's all I needed and wanted to know. The united front I'd like to see is, ordinary folks enjoying watching their team surrounded by like minded folks. Not the wingeing know alls that seem to occupy every other seat. Constantly moaning about the team, players or style of play, this is not 'supporting'. We need to get behind the Manager and players and forget everything else.
When the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that number
I'm proud to be a Saints fan no matter what!
Well he wants to be in that number

the number was 75 which was supposed to be 700. No wonder stain marys is so empty, the scum cant even fill a hall let alon a stadium

Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas says...
3:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Look you guys you have to be tolerant and sympathetic as far as these skates are concerned. Remember a skate would have to be over 80 years old to have gone to the last cup final in which they played. On the other hand in my lifetime we have been to four cup finals with the Saints, three at Wembley and one at Cardiff and I am not even fifty yet. I spoke to a psychologist friend of mine about the Skates that frequent this site and he said what we already know that is that the majority of them are kids who don’t even go to games as witnessed by postings when PFC are playing at home. He analysed the literacy level of their postings and was appalled suggesting that the majority of them would be classified as educationally sub normal. He also said that what we are witnessing is the manifestation of an enormous inferiority complex on their part in that they still do not think they are good enough to be playing in the Premiership and need the comfort and security of a website devoted to a championship club. We are their comfort zone he said. You know a bit like a small child needing a comforter. He also said that fans that are accustomed to top-flight football don’t visit other sites, as they are too busy enjoying the success of their own club to bother with others unless of course they are psychologically deeply insecure. Furthermore he talked about the permanent psychological hurt that Skates would have experienced over the best part of half a century when their club was a constant runner up to their bitterest rivals. This psychological damage he said could not be healed and they are desperate for normality to resume and they once more play second fiddle to Saints. Finally he said these people are crying inside from the many years of hurt and need to be treated kindly. My response to that comment is unprintable.

Hank, says...
3:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08

One good thing may have come out of this poorly attended meeting last night, It just might silence the likes of Illinsworth, Chorley, MacMillan, O'Callaghan etc... for good.
To judge fans feelings and opinions just look at recent attendances and "march madness" season ticket sales.

Tay, Southampton says...
3:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Totally agree with the comment above.

But i posted a link just above.. and i would like someone else to take a look? I don't really understand the business lingo, but it appears to me that there has been a takeover approach?

That statement was posted at 10:30 this morning

comments please?

sunner, near says...
3:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08

sunner wrote:
Dear god the thick 13 year old is back dont think you can say anything about filling a stadium cuz as your team was playing last night you was posting on a saints site sad little tw@t you dont even go to portsmouth home games GROW UP OR GO AWAY
sunner, scummer...both ryhme
Name the place and time and i will willingly discuss football with you. the fact it will be a football discussion discounts scum immediately. I work and live in the southampton area, am NOT a kid and can meet anytime anywhere...now you GO AWAY

true saint, skinning up says...
3:49pm Thu 13 Mar 08

crew 657 wrote:
Zambucco wrote: It is wonderful that some supporters are passionate enough to organise an open meeting with management, it's their choice. The fact that far fewer attended than expected is not an indication of any lack of passion. Only in my opinion is that, the ordinary folk just want to see their team play well, have some small success, that befits their heritage, with Saints that would be a position inthe Premier League, with the occasional decent cup run and an odd appearance on the European stage. They do not want and do not need to know of what goes on behind the scenes. When I grew up supporting Saints, I knew tha players, the Manager (Ted Bates)and possibly the trainer. That's all I needed and wanted to know. The united front I'd like to see is, ordinary folks enjoying watching their team surrounded by like minded folks. Not the wingeing know alls that seem to occupy every other seat. Constantly moaning about the team, players or style of play, this is not 'supporting'. We need to get behind the Manager and players and forget everything else.
When the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that number
I'm proud to be a Saints fan no matter what!
Well he wants to be in that number the number was 75 which was supposed to be 700. No wonder stain marys is so empty, the scum cant even fill a hall let alon a stadium
that comes from a skate who doesent even go to watch her team at home, so i guess you were not one of the 150 who went to everton last week?? or one of the ones that could not fill a 19000 dump of a stadium for a FA cup game a few weeks back (mind you though there is that risk that it might fall down around you)

have you asked your mum if you can to wembley yet?? or are you not allowed out after dark?

Captain Swing, Southampton says...
4:03pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Gerald Whiley wrote:
parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.
You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.

I assume, Mr Wiley, that your given sentiments are supposed to be funny - given you have appropriated Ronnie Barker's pseudonym.
May I just say that, like many of those above, my disinclination to attend yesterday's meeting was that a good attendance might be interpreted as support of Messrs Chorley & McMillan.
The poor attendance, I feel, was a positive signal to SISA (both of them) and the board that supporters are waking up to the fact they have been seriously misinformed over the last three or four years.

silor sam, portsmouth says...
4:23pm Thu 13 Mar 08

John wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
John wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Saints Fan wrote:
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?
Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.
Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING! How do these people reach these 'positions of influence' if it is not because of so-called 'supporters' apathy? Instead of people rushing to put notes on here, they need to read what others are saying! THEY ALL WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING! It would appear to me, an outsider, that Chorley, Illinsworth&Co that you criticise, are the ones that, at one time, DID attempt to do something! They MUST have had backing! If not, WHO opposed them? Is there a Supporters Club other than SISA? If not, WHY NOT? The answere is, I suppose, EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ORGANISE IT! IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THERE IS MORE TIME AN EFFORT SPENT ON THESE PAGES, SLAGGING OFF PFC, ITS CHAIRMAN, ITS MANAGER, ITS GROUND, ITS TEAM, WHERE IT TRAINS AND ITS FANS, THAN GOES INTO DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CLUB THAT YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT! POMPEY WENT DOWN TO THE OLD DIVISION 4! LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! GET ORGANISED! IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TAKE IT! DON'T LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND MOAN ABOUT IT LATER!
Thanks for your advice. I have now formed an independent supporter group and am now the voice of all Saints fans. Would you like to join?
That is the sort of response I expected from you John, as you are just one of the sheep that is waiting for shepherd to come along and lead you!
Look at the input since you made yours!
It has reverted to type!
All Yah Boo and 'someone must do something'!

Waggy from N.Yorks at 1.15pm reckons that the only way Pompey got out of their problems was because someone came along with money to bale us out!
TRUE! Someone did! Why? Because there was a fan-base that was prepared to work together to save the club!
With sort of interest shown at the meeting yesterday, what sort of message would that send to a prospective investor? A lousy fan-base, that can't be bothered to leave the TV behind! What a message!

Zambucco of Rownhams at 1.46 wants a strong, united fan-base, but gave no indication that he would be prepared to do anything about it!

Barnacle Bill at 3.15 is quite content to face the future, while looking to the past, to regale readers that he went to Wembley! Not so keen to do anything about stopping his club going to Div 1! Of course, there have to be a few Yah Boos in there as well!

Falling out of the Premier League is easy!
Pompey fell out of the old First Division, and it took decades to get back, and then for only one seaso, then more than a decade to get there this time!
Derby made it last season - WITH cash!
Sunderland made it last season - WITH cash!
Birmingham and Newcastle have cash, and are finding it tough, and Al Fayed at Fulham is not short of a bob or two, and they seem doomed for relegation!

If you think that getting back to the Premier League in the near future, your customers will have to change into SUPPORTERS, and in that way you may attract an investor!

Mind you, there is always the alternative, SISA could make a take-over bid, then Chorley, Illingsworth&Co will be given the same wholehearted support that the current board receive!


Tay, Southampton says...
4:31pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Im a young saints fan (21) ..but ive gotta say, i want to come on this site for insider gossip and to chat to like minded people.. but all i ever see is the never ending same old banter with these supposed pompey fans! Can we please just act like men and discuss what really matters please?

Redbeard, Time-warp says...
4:53pm Thu 13 Mar 08

formerly optimistic wrote:
I thought that 'imminent' meant soon... I'll get on to the Oxford English dictionary to tell them their error...
Well Gretna players are now available to one and all so maybe we can get 11 of them on loan.

Saints1974, Southampton says...
5:47pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive.

Jannersaint, Plymuff says...
5:49pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Tay wrote:
Im a young saints fan (21) ..but ive gotta say, i want to come on this site for insider gossip and to chat to like minded people.. but all i ever see is the never ending same old banter with these supposed pompey fans! Can we please just act like men and discuss what really matters please?
SPPP (scroll past pompey posts)

I'm thinking of making it a charity. I wonder if I could get Royal acknowledgement. The Royal Society of Scrolling Past Pompey Posts (RSSPPP); has a nice ring to it.

End your messages with SPPP in support. Lapel and tie badges to follow.

THE GREAT KHALI'S BROTHER 7 F00T 9, says...
5:55pm Thu 13 Mar 08

i wanna attack every single pr1ck poompey fan on this website

Gerald Whiley, says...
6:10pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Saints1974 wrote:
Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive.
Hear hear! Well said Saints1974.

The bottom line is that Nigal Pearson, Leon Crouch, Lawrie Mac and four other directors attended last night's meeting...

How often have so many representatives of the club attended a fans meeting?

The guys from SISA said some words, but they didn't fill the evening - the fans did! The fans asked their questions and the club answered them as best they could.

I just cannot understand why fans would not want to spare a couple of hours to go and 'talk Saints'. Afterall, many of us do at other times (work, pub, etc...)

loan reporter, says...
6:44pm Thu 13 Mar 08

saints are just about to sign manucho on loan from man u, saying he wants first team expierience

AK47, Downtown Basra says...
6:55pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Saints1974 wrote Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive.

I hear your sentiments Gerald, However many of us fans have got off our arses in the past and will continue to do so in the future, Its just we do not hog the lime light or make it a political issue which is what Chorley and Co are really about. Yes Chorley is passionate.
but SISA and co only rear their ugly heads when the going gets bad.

I do understand where you are comming from but Chorley and Co are not the ones to unite the fans.

this is real football, says...
7:00pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Odds to win the Champions League 07/08
Barcelona 7/2 Liverpool 5/1 Roma 9/1
Man Utd 10/3 Chelsea 5/1 Schalke 20/1
Arsenal 9/2 Fenherbache 33

Fattay11, Southampton says...
7:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Haha.. loan reporter, if you are right i'll wear a saints shirt through pompey with 'I hate skate' on the back.

why would he want first team experience when he is playing for a decent team in a foreign league?!

loan reporter, says...
7:18pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Fattay11 wrote:
Haha.. loan reporter, if you are right i'll wear a saints shirt through pompey with 'I hate skate' on the back. why would he want first team experience when he is playing for a decent team in a foreign league?!
this drunk geezer at the match told me the other night

chapel chap, southampton says...
7:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08

AK47 wrote:
Saints1974 wrote Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive. I hear your sentiments Gerald, However many of us fans have got off our arses in the past and will continue to do so in the future, Its just we do not hog the lime light or make it a political issue which is what Chorley and Co are really about. Yes Chorley is passionate. but SISA and co only rear their ugly heads when the going gets bad. I do understand where you are comming from but Chorley and Co are not the ones to unite the fans.
Well said AK47,
Poor, Poor Gerald.

You are really not getting it are you! I am without doubt that A)Many new faces would love to have come last night, and B) many of the old faces too, but they did not because they just do not want to be associated with SISA, who through their own egotistical approach, have alienated, the normal caring Saints fan who does not wish to be seen as endorsing Chorleys bid for a political career

SUPER SAINT, says...
7:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Its obvious why there were only 75 at the meeting last night, It was because everyone else was at Fratton Park getting there FA Cup
Semi-Final vouchers.

R I C F L A I R, says...
7:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08

!

chapel chap, southampton says...
7:58pm Thu 13 Mar 08

A question for Gerald....
You obviously went to the meeting last night, and from reading your messages, seem quite an educated and reasoned sort. Please tell me as you put it , you went and 'talked saints'- what leading question did you put to the table last night?? Or is it more than likely , you did not actually take part in the evening, but were nothing more than a Chorley number sweller

Amazing, Soton says...
8:15pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Ok, I'd like tt make a point here. I've only just started perusing the readers comments part of this website and I find all these comments highly amusing.

You are all so full of self importance and yet, out of an average 23000 of us that attend Saints every week and around 20000 (circa 43000 in all) that support Pompey, there only seems to be about 20 of you who regularly post on here. I guess what i'm trying to say is that none of you so called 'saints fans' or any of you 'pompey fans' are representative of the actual fans. Most of yo ualso post here within about five mins of a game far as i can see so you clearly don't go to any games(especially this Sailor Sam chappy). What a group of wasters.

sailor sam, portsmuff says...
8:23pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Amazing wrote:
Ok, I'd like tt make a point here. I've only just started perusing the readers comments part of this website and I find all these comments highly amusing. You are all so full of self importance and yet, out of an average 23000 of us that attend Saints every week and around 20000 (circa 43000 in all) that support Pompey, there only seems to be about 20 of you who regularly post on here. I guess what i'm trying to say is that none of you so called 'saints fans' or any of you 'pompey fans' are representative of the actual fans. Most of yo ualso post here within about five mins of a game far as i can see so you clearly don't go to any games(especially this Sailor Sam chappy). What a group of wasters.
amazing, you are right! i am a waster!

i do not go to games as i can communicate with real people, hence i have no freinds! thus meaning the only decent converastion i get is on this site, becasue harold the gerbil does not say much!

also you will probally notice that i am now hooked on the highly addictive drug of using far too may ! and ? and , in all my postings! so keep your eyes peeled for my next post jammend full of ! ? , inbetween the crap i type.

ps i am not a sailor it just i like them lots

xxx

David Crook, Yorkshire says...
8:42pm Thu 13 Mar 08

If we stay up,can I suggest we get rid of the dead wood during the summer break.
I suggest we sign up two great players,left back Lewington who has a great left foot,and is a great crosser of the ball and at the moment plays for M.K Dons,the other who is a great striker and plays for Swansea is Scotland.
I think we should invest in these guys.
David Crook

Jim, Southampton says...
8:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08

Sally Hamilton wrote:
I am sorry?!!! Crouch is a joke. He is merely one of the idiots that are seeming to put a halt to new investment. The only thing I can hope is that Wilde Crouch and Lowe all meet up and have a freek clay pigeon accident so that our club can move on. No-one is interested in buying us with those 3 idiots holding us back. They dont care about the club, its all about making sure they get money into their pockets. How they have the face to even step out of their front doors is beyond me. How can they sleep at night? I think we should get all the fans to invest and buy the club and take us forward! I am willing to start the investment!
Where do I sign up to this? I swear to God and all that is good in the world, that i could do a better job than Crouch and his lot. Weve got clubs like Liverpool who are throwing away millions of pounds of investment and Crouch appears to be trying to find an investment in his breakfast cereal box. They dont give em away Crouch, but theyre NOT that difficult to find either. Put some bleeding effort in.

pugwash, southampton says...
10:26pm Thu 13 Mar 08

I WOULD TAKE LAST NIGHTS ATTENDANCE AS SHOWING THE TOTAL APATHY PEOPLE HAVE TOWARDS THE PRESENT BOARD COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT SISA MIGHT ONLY REPRESENT A HANDFUL OF FANS.THERE SEEMS A LOT OF BITTERNESS IN THE WAY PEOPLE SPOKE LAST NIGHT OF RUPERT LOWES TENURE.BUT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS,AND DURING HIS CHAIRMANSHIP THE SAINTS MOVED FROM THE DECREPID DELL TO A STATE OF ART STADIUM SUITABLE FOR INTERNATIONALS,OUR TURNOVER FROM BEING BY FAR THE SMALLEST IN THE PREM. BECAME THE 10TH LARGEST,GATES AVERAGING 31,000+.EVEN THE FORUMS THE CLUB ORGANISED WERE HEALTHILY SUPPORTED.I THINK IT'S DUE TO THE FINANCIAL ACUMEN TAKEN BY THE THEN BOARD THAT'S ENABLED THE CLUB TO SURVIVE THIS LONG IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT RESORTING TO ADMINISTRATION.I THINK IT'S WRONG FOR MCMENEMY TO CRITCISE MANAGERIAL TURNOVER IN RECENT YEARS WHEN HE HIMSELF WALKED OUT ON THE CLUB TWICE!NO,I'M SORRY BUT THIS CLUB DOES'N'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY LEADERSHIP ANYMORE,AND JUDGING FROM LEON CROUCHS COMMENTS LAST NIGHT IT SEEMS HE AND WILDE TOTALLY UNDERESTIMATED WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB.

Trahsis, doone says...
5:42am Fri 14 Mar 08

Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...

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