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7:38am Thursday 13th March 2008
SAINTS chairman Leon Crouch apologised to fans last night for the club's current plight - but reiterated his belief that new investment would be found "hopefully within six to nine months."
Crouch was speaking before the Dell Spirit Rally at Central Hall, St Mary's, organised by the Southampton Independent Supporters Association.
Despite the group expecting more than 700 people to turn up for the chance to quiz boss Nigel Pearson, Crouch and fellow directors such as Lawrie McMenemy, just 75 had arrived by the time the meeting started at 8pm, half an hour late.
The Daily Echo was also forced to leave before proceedings began, with SISA representatives saying the club had threatened to walk out if members of the press remained.
But, ahead of the forum, Crouch told the Daily Echo: "We can't hide the fact that the fans deserve better and I'm sorry about that.
"Eighteen months ago, when Rupert (Lowe) resigned and Michael (Wilde) took over, we all thought the club had a different future and we'd get back to the Premier-ship. But things haven't worked out that way.
"We've drawn a line under that and are moving forward. We have a united board now and I believe the fans realise I am doing my best.
"We are trying to get investment. It's not easy but I believe we will get the investment the club needs.
"I can't guarantee when, but hopefully with-in six to nine months - in time for us to mount a serious challenge next season to get back to where we belong, in the Premiership."
For the latest Saints news, don't miss today's Daily Echo.
John B, Bitterne says...
8:08am Thu 13 Mar 08
ANGRY AGAIN wrote:I agree if this Investment is not sorted out in the next few months how can we assemble a team for Promotion
SIX TO NINE MONTHS? WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SINCE YOU GOT THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN BACK? YOUR STATEMENT SHOULD SURELY HAVE SAID SIX TO NINE DAYS! AFTER ALL, WE KEEP HEARING STORIES OF TAKEOVER BIDS. GET THE FINANCIAL SIDE SORTED OUT NOW AND THEN PEARSON CAN CONCVENTRATE ON GETTING THE PLAYING SIDE RIGHT - HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SO FAR - LETS HOPE A CLUB WITH MORE AMBITION THAN SOUTHAMPTON DONT LURE HIM AWAY (AFTER ALL, I EXPECT HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES IN THE SUMMER) AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!
dissapointed, at work says...
8:24am Thu 13 Mar 08
Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:35am Thu 13 Mar 08
Portswood Pete, says...
8:40am Thu 13 Mar 08
Pedant, says...
8:47am Thu 13 Mar 08
Condor Man wrote:Central Hall is a church? No Mr Man, you jest surely? It's a hall! No font, no pulpit, no pews, no organ, no vicar and no people last night (well hardly any).
Interesting that the meeting took place in a church, they should be issuing the last rites!
Big Banana, Tadley says...
8:55am Thu 13 Mar 08
parthian, Winchester says...
8:56am Thu 13 Mar 08
John, Sydenham says...
9:23am Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47, Downtown Basra says...
9:28am Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
9:48am Thu 13 Mar 08
Thorshammer, Valhalla says...
9:48am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saints Fan, Top 19 says...
10:01am Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
WHAT A FIASCO!
Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start!
After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up!
Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land!
Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour!
In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend!
The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!
Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
10:10am Thu 13 Mar 08
parthian wrote:You think the low turn-out is funny?
700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.
Portswood Pete, says...
10:17am Thu 13 Mar 08
Gerald Whiley wrote:Actually Gerald it says more about Chorley and Co. than it does about us Saints fans, I'll have nothing to do with anything these "fans" are involved in. Look at his quote on the OS and you'll see he is still waging his class war against Lowe after 10 years.
parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.
Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas. says...
10:41am Thu 13 Mar 08
Pedant wrote:I seem to recollect a magnificent organ in Central Hall and it is a place of Christian worship which in my book makes it a church.
Condor Man wrote: Interesting that the meeting took place in a church, they should be issuing the last rites!Central Hall is a church? No Mr Man, you jest surely? It's a hall! No font, no pulpit, no pews, no organ, no vicar and no people last night (well hardly any).
formerly optimistic, salisbury says...
10:42am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saint, says...
10:45am Thu 13 Mar 08
formerly optimistic, salisbury says...
11:12am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saint wrote:Well said sir!
Mr Crouch you are enjoying that seat too much!! A few months before GB left you talked of weeks, now some months later, you are talking 6 to 9 months!Are you trying a devise your own rolling contract? In 3 to 6 months, are you going to come out with yet another story for more months? The longer you drag this on, the more you are going to screw up next season promotion push and signing the players we need to get us out of this crap fizzy league! Stop apologising to appeal to our good nature and pull your finger and do the job at hand, for the love of the SOUTHAMPTON F.C. And realise the danger you are putting us in with lenghty delays rolling on! We know it not simple, BUT SIMPLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AND REALISE THE URGENTCEY FOR US TO GET THE INVESTMENT, SO AS WE ARE NOT WASTING ANOTHER / NEXT SEASON IN THE F##KING LEAGUE!!
Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
11:28am Thu 13 Mar 08
Portswood Pete wrote:I have attended many SISA meetings and to be quite frank, I have never understood these opinions on Richard Chorley.
Gerald Whiley wrote:Actually Gerald it says more about Chorley and Co. than it does about us Saints fans, I'll have nothing to do with anything these "fans" are involved in. Look at his quote on the OS and you'll see he is still waging his class war against Lowe after 10 years.parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.
the real one, soton says...
11:28am Thu 13 Mar 08
formerly optimistic wrote:expected 700...only 75 turn up. sums up scum fans well
Saint wrote: Mr Crouch you are enjoying that seat too much!! A few months before GB left you talked of weeks, now some months later, you are talking 6 to 9 months!Are you trying a devise your own rolling contract? In 3 to 6 months, are you going to come out with yet another story for more months? The longer you drag this on, the more you are going to screw up next season promotion push and signing the players we need to get us out of this crap fizzy league! Stop apologising to appeal to our good nature and pull your finger and do the job at hand, for the love of the SOUTHAMPTON F.C. And realise the danger you are putting us in with lenghty delays rolling on! We know it not simple, BUT SIMPLY YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AND REALISE THE URGENTCEY FOR US TO GET THE INVESTMENT, SO AS WE ARE NOT WASTING ANOTHER / NEXT SEASON IN THE F##KING LEAGUE!!Well said sir! What i would like to know is how the hell these people on the board of SFC became successful enough in business to become "board material". The laughable persistent reports of investment smack of desperation. Who, if they have the money, would want to hand over the millions that we need whilst we are the current position. Even the lifelong fans that have this week been linked are not fools, but I sincerely hope that their hearts are really with the club and that we can start to look forward again...
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
11:34am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saints Fan wrote:I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons!
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
AK47, Downtown Basra says...
11:38am Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47, Downtown Basra says...
11:48am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saint, says...
11:53am Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47 wrote:Agreed!
Just seen the write up on the OS about the SISA appreciation Society meeting lastnight The club need to get real, if they think the likes of Foley, Mcmillan and Comrade chorley are representative of the saints fans They are not and never will be. Reading about the meeting made me cringe. LM and Crouch sucking up to the likes of Chorley. Clearly LM has as bigger B in his bonnet as chorley about the last 10 years of the club. As someone on the board , He should draw a line under what has happened previously and move on. By keep regurgitating your disgust about what happen previously LM , you are only hampering the progression of the club. Do the right thing and book yourself into the Cedar lawn residential home in braisfield road. You will feel at home.
Sally Hamilton, Southampton says...
11:55am Thu 13 Mar 08
Rich, London says...
11:55am Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47 wrote:The Club turned out in force to meet supporters. They dont distinguish about SISA or the personalities of the individuals - why should they? They were asked to attend a supporters meeting and they did. All the senior people came along, despite knowing that the mood of the fans is pretty low.
Just seen the write up on the OS about the SISA appreciation Society meeting lastnight The club need to get real, if they think the likes of Foley, Mcmillan and Comrade chorley are representative of the saints fans They are not and never will be. Reading about the meeting made me cringe. LM and Crouch sucking up to the likes of Chorley. Clearly LM has as bigger B in his bonnet as chorley about the last 10 years of the club. As someone on the board , He should draw a line under what has happened previously and move on. By keep regurgitating your disgust about what happen previously LM , you are only hampering the progression of the club. Do the right thing and book yourself into the Cedar lawn residential home in braisfield road. You will feel at home.
Kingsland Stan, Northam says...
11:58am Thu 13 Mar 08
Saints Fan wrote:I wouldn't stand in the same bus stop as Chorley or Illingsworth and I know many LOYAL supporters who would not either.
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
John, Sydenham says...
12:11pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary's is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at "fans' forums" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing "sack the board" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.
Saints Fan wrote:I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons!
sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC 'customers' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening's turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You've never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That's all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors?
If they are, how has that come about?
Were they the ones 'who did something', while the rest of the customers were saying, 'someone must do something'?
If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the 'customers' are to blame for their apathy!
The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested!
Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned?
Did you have to belong to a 'fans group' to attend?
Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience?
If you look at other 'Echo' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their 'whinges and whines' can be addressed?
What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold?
HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
12:15pm Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47 wrote:YOU ARE WRONG AK47!
George Wiley you obviously have never been on the ned of Chorley and Co's bullying tactics and threats if you have differing views to them. If you had then you would understand the negativity towards them. When have they ever done anything positive for all saints fans or the club, They only seem to rear their ugly heads when the club is going through a lean spell or thety are fighting a class war against the likes of the previous chairman etc As for Sailor Sam , yes its easy to mock from skatesville, and your on a high at the moment. but just think a few years ago your club was in dire straights and you probably experienced the crap we are enduring. Im sure you had a group of class warriors who claimed they spoke for the majority of the skates fans at the time but in reality only spoke for their own intentions. So By all means mock us, I used to mock the slime when you were languishing in the footholds of the division we are now in. but at least appreciate the crap and lies we are being spun by our once great club.
Gerald Whiley, Southampton says...
12:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Wills, says...
12:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Sally Hamilton wrote:Well said.
I am sorry?!!! Crouch is a joke. He is merely one of the idiots that are seeming to put a halt to new investment. The only thing I can hope is that Wilde Crouch and Lowe all meet up and have a freek clay pigeon accident so that our club can move on. No-one is interested in buying us with those 3 idiots holding us back. They dont care about the club, its all about making sure they get money into their pockets. How they have the face to even step out of their front doors is beyond me. How can they sleep at night? I think we should get all the fans to invest and buy the club and take us forward! I am willing to start the investment!
Paddy B The Exiled Saint., Shropshire says...
12:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08
CHAPEL CHAP, SOUTHAMPTON says...
12:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
12:50pm Thu 13 Mar 08
John wrote:Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING!
sailor sam wrote:Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.Saints Fan wrote:I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
John, Sydenham says...
1:06pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:Thanks for your advice. I have now formed an independent supporter group and am now the voice of all Saints fans. Would you like to join?
John wrote:Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING!
sailor sam wrote:Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.Saints Fan wrote:I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
How do these people reach these 'positions of influence' if it is not because of so-called 'supporters' apathy?
Instead of people rushing to put notes on here, they need to read what others are saying!
THEY ALL WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING!
It would appear to me, an outsider, that Chorley, Illinsworth&Co that you criticise, are the ones that, at one time, DID attempt to do something!
They MUST have had backing!
If not, WHO opposed them?
Is there a Supporters Club other than SISA?
If not, WHY NOT?
The answere is, I suppose, EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ORGANISE IT!
IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THERE IS MORE TIME AN EFFORT SPENT ON THESE PAGES, SLAGGING OFF PFC, ITS CHAIRMAN, ITS MANAGER, ITS GROUND, ITS TEAM, WHERE IT TRAINS AND ITS FANS, THAN GOES INTO DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CLUB THAT YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT!
POMPEY WENT DOWN TO THE OLD DIVISION 4!
LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! GET ORGANISED!
IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TAKE IT! DON'T LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND MOAN ABOUT IT LATER!
jannersaint, Plymuff says...
1:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Portswood Pete wrote:Well said. We have a much better squad than Plymouth and they are 7th....why? Dont care why! All I know is we have a manager I trust and with a few careful free agents in the summer and cutting our cloth (Claus and Powell etc) we can achieve a playoff place comfortably.
Poor old Leon, hailed as the new messiah, a proper Saints fan dotchaknow, when he sided with Wilde to oust Lowe and will get, rightly, flamed for his mis-handling of Saints since then. It\'s not \"investment\" we need, if I \"invested\" in Saints it would mean buying shares, nothing more. What we need is to work within our means, steered by a board who know what they\'re doing and not hope some imaginary rich bloke with more money than sense will come in and blow millions on taking us further.
waggy, N. Yorks says...
1:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:... the only reason that P*rtsm*outh managed to "climb out of 'slime'" was that a wealthy, more money than sense, benefactor waved a big fat cheque book. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want the same for SFC, but don't try and make it into something it wasn't. PFC at that time were getting gates of 6-10k per game, thats hardly backing and fighting for your club!
AK47 wrote: George Wiley you obviously have never been on the ned of Chorley and Co\\\'s bullying tactics and threats if you have differing views to them. If you had then you would understand the negativity towards them. When have they ever done anything positive for all saints fans or the club, They only seem to rear their ugly heads when the club is going through a lean spell or thety are fighting a class war against the likes of the previous chairman etc As for Sailor Sam , yes its easy to mock from skatesville, and your on a high at the moment. but just think a few years ago your club was in dire straights and you probably experienced the crap we are enduring. Im sure you had a group of class warriors who claimed they spoke for the majority of the skates fans at the time but in reality only spoke for their own intentions. So By all means mock us, I used to mock the slime when you were languishing in the footholds of the division we are now in. but at least appreciate the crap and lies we are being spun by our once great club.YOU ARE WRONG AK47! I am not mocking, but asking simple questions that you do not appear to either understand, or are unwilling to answer! Yes! Pompey were in trouble, BIG TROUBLE, a few years back, and the actions taken by UNITED supporters was chronicled in The News and was featured on both local TV channels! We did not sit around, demanding that someone else did something! We worked TOGETHER! UNITED! Something that I have urged on your \\\'customers\\\' for a considerable period, and have taken a load of abuse for it! We did not climb out of \\\'slime\\\' we found ourselves in, that you now occupy, by whinging and whining! We had meetings - AND THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED, AND WE GOT THINGS DONE! Were you at yesterday evening\\\'s meeting? I guess not, as your first paragraph would indicated that your fear of Chorley & Co was greater than your desire to help SFC out of it\\\'s current mess! Until you all stop fighting amongst yourselves, and unite to do something positive for your club, then the future does not look good for you, the customer or the club itself! STILL WAITING ON ANSWERS TO MY LAST NOTE!
Rich, London says...
1:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47, Downtowwn Basra says...
1:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zambucco, Rownhams says...
1:46pm Thu 13 Mar 08
When the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that number
crew 657, st marys says...
3:07pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zambucco wrote:Well he wants to be in that number
It is wonderful that some supporters are passionate enough to organise an open meeting with management, it's their choice. The fact that far fewer attended than expected is not an indication of any lack of passion. Only in my opinion is that, the ordinary folk just want to see their team play well, have some small success, that befits their heritage, with Saints that would be a position inthe Premier League, with the occasional decent cup run and an odd appearance on the European stage. They do not want and do not need to know of what goes on behind the scenes. When I grew up supporting Saints, I knew tha players, the Manager (Ted Bates)and possibly the trainer. That's all I needed and wanted to know. The united front I'd like to see is, ordinary folks enjoying watching their team surrounded by like minded folks. Not the wingeing know alls that seem to occupy every other seat. Constantly moaning about the team, players or style of play, this is not 'supporting'. We need to get behind the Manager and players and forget everything else.When the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that numberI'm proud to be a Saints fan no matter what!
Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas says...
3:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Hank, says...
3:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Tay, Southampton says...
3:22pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sunner, near says...
3:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sunner wrote:sunner, scummer...both ryhme
Dear god the thick 13 year old is back dont think you can say anything about filling a stadium cuz as your team was playing last night you was posting on a saints site sad little tw@t you dont even go to portsmouth home games GROW UP OR GO AWAY
true saint, skinning up says...
3:49pm Thu 13 Mar 08
crew 657 wrote:that comes from a skate who doesent even go to watch her team at home, so i guess you were not one of the 150 who went to everton last week?? or one of the ones that could not fill a 19000 dump of a stadium for a FA cup game a few weeks back (mind you though there is that risk that it might fall down around you)
Zambucco wrote: It is wonderful that some supporters are passionate enough to organise an open meeting with management, it's their choice. The fact that far fewer attended than expected is not an indication of any lack of passion. Only in my opinion is that, the ordinary folk just want to see their team play well, have some small success, that befits their heritage, with Saints that would be a position inthe Premier League, with the occasional decent cup run and an odd appearance on the European stage. They do not want and do not need to know of what goes on behind the scenes. When I grew up supporting Saints, I knew tha players, the Manager (Ted Bates)and possibly the trainer. That's all I needed and wanted to know. The united front I'd like to see is, ordinary folks enjoying watching their team surrounded by like minded folks. Not the wingeing know alls that seem to occupy every other seat. Constantly moaning about the team, players or style of play, this is not 'supporting'. We need to get behind the Manager and players and forget everything else.Well he wants to be in that number the number was 75 which was supposed to be 700. No wonder stain marys is so empty, the scum cant even fill a hall let alon a stadiumWhen the Saints go marching in, I want to be in that numberI'm proud to be a Saints fan no matter what!
Captain Swing, Southampton says...
4:03pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Gerald Whiley wrote:
parthian wrote: 700 expected and only 75 turn out?!?! Hahahahahahhaaaaaa! What a joke. And then they kick up a fuss because the media are there to tell people what they've got to say. Rank amateurism and vanity.You think the low turn-out is funny? I think it's shameful! Such a low turnout says an lot about the fans - and none of it good.
silor sam, portsmouth says...
4:23pm Thu 13 Mar 08
John wrote:That is the sort of response I expected from you John, as you are just one of the sheep that is waiting for shepherd to come along and lead you!
sailor sam wrote:Thanks for your advice. I have now formed an independent supporter group and am now the voice of all Saints fans. Would you like to join?John wrote:Sorry John, but that tells me NOTHING! How do these people reach these 'positions of influence' if it is not because of so-called 'supporters' apathy? Instead of people rushing to put notes on here, they need to read what others are saying! THEY ALL WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING! It would appear to me, an outsider, that Chorley, Illinsworth&Co that you criticise, are the ones that, at one time, DID attempt to do something! They MUST have had backing! If not, WHO opposed them? Is there a Supporters Club other than SISA? If not, WHY NOT? The answere is, I suppose, EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ORGANISE IT! IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THERE IS MORE TIME AN EFFORT SPENT ON THESE PAGES, SLAGGING OFF PFC, ITS CHAIRMAN, ITS MANAGER, ITS GROUND, ITS TEAM, WHERE IT TRAINS AND ITS FANS, THAN GOES INTO DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CLUB THAT YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT! POMPEY WENT DOWN TO THE OLD DIVISION 4! LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! GET ORGANISED! IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TAKE IT! DON'T LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND MOAN ABOUT IT LATER!sailor sam wrote:Chorley and Illingsworth, as well as the owners and former owners of other internet message boards, seem to exert an alarming influence over the likes of Crouch, Wilde and McMememy - and seemingly the Echo as well. They do not, however, hold any influence over the vast majority of Saints fan, who have voted with their feet by not attending this event. Most of us recognise that the problems at St Mary\'s is in the boardroom, and pandering to the egos of small time businessmen and self-appointed superfans at \"fans\' forums\" is not going to resolve the problem any more than singing \"sack the board\" at home games. I hope that answers your question and thank you for your continued interest in our football club.Saints Fan wrote:I am sorry, that explains nothing to me or, I would imagine, plenty of other interested persons! Are you trying to tell me that the two you mentioned are virtually as powerful as the board of directors? If they are, how has that come about? Were they the ones \'who did something\', while the rest of the customers were saying, \'someone must do something\'? If that is the truth, or near to the truth, then the \'customers\' are to blame for their apathy! The fact of the matter is, there was an opportunity for THOSE INTERESTED, to attend a meeting where the board would give explanations and answer questions, and it would appear that very few were interested! Were sections of the public, other than the press, banned? Did you have to belong to a \'fans group\' to attend? Was it a Public meeting, or an invited audience? If you look at other \'Echo\' pages, you will see plenty of input at the time the meeting was held so, is it a case that SFC customers just like to whinge and whine, rather than do attend a meeting where their \'whinges and whines\' can be addressed? What POWER to Chorley and Illingsworth hold? HAS ANYONE GOT AN ANSWER?sailor sam wrote: WHAT A FIASCO! Expecting 700+ to turn up, only 75 show up for when the meeting was due to start! After all the questions, comments and demands made by SFC \'customers\' on these pages, on 75 SUPPORTERS turn up! Pompey supporters who visit these pages are often told by that SFC have the best fans in the land! Yesterday evening\'s turn out for the meeting gave a clearer indication of their ironic sense of humour! In my humble opinion, I would suggest that any SFC customer who comes on here to comment on the meeting should explain why they could not be bothered to attend! The Old, Old story I suppose! Let someone else do it!You\'ve never met Messrs Chorley, Illingsworth, et al, have you? That\'s all the explanation you need. But thank you for your continued interest in Southampton Football Club.
Tay, Southampton says...
4:31pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Redbeard, Time-warp says...
4:53pm Thu 13 Mar 08
formerly optimistic wrote:Well Gretna players are now available to one and all so maybe we can get 11 of them on loan.
I thought that 'imminent' meant soon... I'll get on to the Oxford English dictionary to tell them their error...
Saints1974, Southampton says...
5:47pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Jannersaint, Plymuff says...
5:49pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Tay wrote:SPPP (scroll past pompey posts)
Im a young saints fan (21) ..but ive gotta say, i want to come on this site for insider gossip and to chat to like minded people.. but all i ever see is the never ending same old banter with these supposed pompey fans! Can we please just act like men and discuss what really matters please?
THE GREAT KHALI'S BROTHER 7 F00T 9, says...
5:55pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Gerald Whiley, says...
6:10pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Saints1974 wrote:Hear hear! Well said Saints1974.
Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive.
loan reporter, says...
6:44pm Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47, Downtown Basra says...
6:55pm Thu 13 Mar 08
this is real football, says...
7:00pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Fattay11, Southampton says...
7:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
loan reporter, says...
7:18pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Fattay11 wrote:this drunk geezer at the match told me the other night
Haha.. loan reporter, if you are right i'll wear a saints shirt through pompey with 'I hate skate' on the back. why would he want first team experience when he is playing for a decent team in a foreign league?!
chapel chap, southampton says...
7:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08
AK47 wrote:Well said AK47,
Saints1974 wrote Maybe the people who are so quick to criticize fellow fans for holding a meeting would like to get off their arses and do something constructive. I hear your sentiments Gerald, However many of us fans have got off our arses in the past and will continue to do so in the future, Its just we do not hog the lime light or make it a political issue which is what Chorley and Co are really about. Yes Chorley is passionate. but SISA and co only rear their ugly heads when the going gets bad. I do understand where you are comming from but Chorley and Co are not the ones to unite the fans.
SUPER SAINT, says...
7:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08
R I C F L A I R, says...
7:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
chapel chap, southampton says...
7:58pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Amazing, Soton says...
8:15pm Thu 13 Mar 08
sailor sam, portsmuff says...
8:23pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Amazing wrote:amazing, you are right! i am a waster!
Ok, I'd like tt make a point here. I've only just started perusing the readers comments part of this website and I find all these comments highly amusing. You are all so full of self importance and yet, out of an average 23000 of us that attend Saints every week and around 20000 (circa 43000 in all) that support Pompey, there only seems to be about 20 of you who regularly post on here. I guess what i'm trying to say is that none of you so called 'saints fans' or any of you 'pompey fans' are representative of the actual fans. Most of yo ualso post here within about five mins of a game far as i can see so you clearly don't go to any games(especially this Sailor Sam chappy). What a group of wasters.
David Crook, Yorkshire says...
8:42pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Jim, Southampton says...
8:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Sally Hamilton wrote:Where do I sign up to this? I swear to God and all that is good in the world, that i could do a better job than Crouch and his lot. Weve got clubs like Liverpool who are throwing away millions of pounds of investment and Crouch appears to be trying to find an investment in his breakfast cereal box. They dont give em away Crouch, but theyre NOT that difficult to find either. Put some bleeding effort in.
I am sorry?!!! Crouch is a joke. He is merely one of the idiots that are seeming to put a halt to new investment. The only thing I can hope is that Wilde Crouch and Lowe all meet up and have a freek clay pigeon accident so that our club can move on. No-one is interested in buying us with those 3 idiots holding us back. They dont care about the club, its all about making sure they get money into their pockets. How they have the face to even step out of their front doors is beyond me. How can they sleep at night? I think we should get all the fans to invest and buy the club and take us forward! I am willing to start the investment!
pugwash, southampton says...
10:26pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Trahsis, doone says...
5:42am Fri 14 Mar 08
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ANGRY AGAIN, SOUTHAMPTON says...
7:56am Thu 13 Mar 08
WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SINCE YOU GOT THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN BACK?
YOUR STATEMENT SHOULD SURELY HAVE SAID SIX TO NINE DAYS! AFTER ALL, WE KEEP HEARING STORIES OF TAKEOVER BIDS.
GET THE FINANCIAL SIDE SORTED OUT NOW AND THEN PEARSON CAN CONCVENTRATE ON GETTING THE PLAYING SIDE RIGHT - HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SO FAR - LETS HOPE A CLUB WITH MORE AMBITION THAN SOUTHAMPTON DONT LURE HIM AWAY (AFTER ALL, I EXPECT HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES IN THE SUMMER)
AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!