So the consortium's dealing with Lowe then.

So, one director/major shareholder hasn't had contact with another for months...speaks volumes.

oops sounds like Wildes been hung out to dry..............

A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board.
Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth.
The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde.
Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

Well we survived but only just. A great performance from the team on Sunday and thank you Nigel for putting a bit of fight into them. What a season this has been, an under achieving team and a boardroom farce that has made our club a joke. Now that we are safe in the Championship for another year there is no time to be lost in building for the future. The Boardroom problem wants sorting NOW, this week. Then let's get the Manager sorted. I hope that it's Nigel Pearson. He wouldn't have been my original choice but he has proved to be a good Boss. He now knows the squad, who to keep, who to let go, where the team needs strengthening etc. Any new manager will have to start again and its the end of August before a squad is assembled. If nothing else comes of this terrible season which I for one was pleased to see the b ack of, then it's that we can't afford to sit around and wait. We need to get moving NOW. One of George Burley's problems was that he was ill prepared for the start of the campaign. He had failed to replace players who had left. So Messrs Crouch, McMenemy, Lowe, Wilde and any potential investor get your act together NOw, not next week or next month..NOW. This Club deserves better than it has been given in recent years. We need to learn from past mistakes and move forward. PLEASE< PLEASE PLEASE let's move forward as a united club.

Captain Swing wrote:
A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

Finally it takes a fantastic result for our last game of the season to have someone talk some sense on these pages. Rupert lowe is the best of a bad bunch at the moment and sadly i think we wont get investment without him.

Captain Swing wrote:
A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman\'s, the last remaining \"Rebel\" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this \"approach\" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I\'m sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I\'m not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can\'t be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ?
They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

Hopefully they will buy all of Lowe and Wilde's shares then imediately ban the two tossers from St.Marys.

Phil wrote:

Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman\'s, the last remaining \"Rebel\" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this \"approach\" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I\'m sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I\'m not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can\'t be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again.

Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda

Jesus_02 wrote:

Phil wrote:

Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman\'s, the last remaining \"Rebel\" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this \"approach\" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I\'m sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I\'m not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can\'t be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda

What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change

I noticed the 'duck off Lowe' banner was out again in the Chapel stand. Look forward to the hugely divisive arguments all through the summer.

I would bet that the Anti Lowe brigade are the same no brains who spoilt the lap of appreciation by the players, what a bunch of to$$ers

stripey wrote:
So, one director/major shareholder hasn't had contact with another for months...speaks volumes.

Exactly...Wilde really worries me!!

Captain Swing wrote:
A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

Do you think that the 'little bird' to which you refer, could be a Kookaburra?
In Australia it is also known as 'The Laughing Jackass'!
Methinks that a local jackass is also 'having a laugh'!

Oi inbred 657, hows Shannon Matthewsville? Have a Nonsy day!

crew 657, new forest on 8:22am today
GENUINE NOTICE I may be intolerant of scum but I DO NOT condone that silly comment by a supposed true blue and the railway track incident. That was taking things too far and is not acceptable. Im old fashioned to believe that queensbury rules apply and I repeat though I detest scum I would never resort to such callousness He is not one of us
GENUINE NOTICE

I may be intolerant of scum but I DO NOT condone that silly comment by a supposed true blue and the railway track incident. That was taking things too far and is not acceptable. Im old fashioned to believe that queensbury rules apply and I repeat though I detest scum I would never resort to such callousness

He is not one of us

He was only from portscum anyway, he probably had 3 legs anyway you 657 inbred. Hahahahahahahahaha Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhh hahahahahahahaha

crew 657, new forest on 8:22am today
GENUINE NOTICE I may be intolerant of scum but I DO NOT condone that silly comment by a supposed true blue and the railway track incident. That was taking things too far and is not acceptable. Im old fashioned to believe that queensbury rules apply and I repeat though I detest scum I would never resort to such callousness He is not one of us
He is not one of us

Crew 657, it was one of you it happened to dopey. Not us!

You really cannot read can you? Yes? no? I guess not.

Captain Swing wrote:
A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

MY little bird has it that this bid does have offshore capital behind it - some £50 million as initial investment. In which case we don't need Crouch, Wilde or Lowe.
By the way, it was the Wilde team that courted SISU.

This is a message to the anti-Lowe brigade in the hope that they might consider the bigger picture, rather than simply the next season/dislike of a person .

At worst, Lowe is going to want to come back, try and build up the value of his shares and then sell up, which is probably the most likely - for some of the younger/Northam fans this is a good thing as it will bring FINANCIAL STABILITY , at the moment we have INSTABILITY in staff (playing and coaching), board, finances - not good at all.

Consider this:
a) we can whinge about this situation - "we don't want our club turning into a business opportunity" - get real. Football is primarily a business now, the only thing about Southampton left is the colour of our shirts and the support of the fans so it is imperative we stick together and support the (frighteningly overpaid and overvalued) team.

b) If Lowe should win the EGM then we support the regime, hopefully build the club up financially AND THEN possibly a new investor that can fulfill all of our wildest (no pun intended) dreams will arrive.

c) we can delude ourselves that we can afford promotion (considering we have not been successful in the transfer market since our relegation I think to assume we could wheel and deal our way up is too unrealistic a pressure for Pearson to realistically achieve and would probably result in more managerial instability] and can play our way out of it.

d) trust the efforts of Crouch et al who, whilst undoubtedly true Saints fans, have only the offer of a HEDGE FUND company to their reign of promised investment and a miserable campaign

All in all, I think there are three things we need - financial, staff and executive stability but at the very least we need ONE of them!

C'mon saints fans, lets see Lowe for what he is, someone with the financial acumen that we need right now - he may not be a Saint but we need to make some compromises if we are to get back where we belong!

I wish someone would come in and buy out all three of them and get rid of the board as it stands - I don't trust any of them they have all made mistakes and don't seem capable of obtaining investment on their terms. Bottom line is we need a clean start now.

SaintSimon wrote:
This is a message to the anti-Lowe brigade in the hope that they might consider the bigger picture, rather than simply the next season/dislike of a person .

At worst, Lowe is going to want to come back, try and build up the value of his shares and then sell up, which is probably the most likely - for some of the younger/Northam fans this is a good thing as it will bring FINANCIAL STABILITY , at the moment we have INSTABILITY in staff (playing and coaching), board, finances - not good at all.

Consider this:
a) we can whinge about this situation - "we don't want our club turning into a business opportunity" - get real. Football is primarily a business now, the only thing about Southampton left is the colour of our shirts and the support of the fans so it is imperative we stick together and support the (frighteningly overpaid and overvalued) team.

b) If Lowe should win the EGM then we support the regime, hopefully build the club up financially AND THEN possibly a new investor that can fulfill all of our wildest (no pun intended) dreams will arrive.

c) we can delude ourselves that we can afford promotion (considering we have not been successful in the transfer market since our relegation I think to assume we could wheel and deal our way up is too unrealistic a pressure for Pearson to realistically achieve and would probably result in more managerial instability] and can play our way out of it.

d) trust the efforts of Crouch et al who, whilst undoubtedly true Saints fans, have only the offer of a HEDGE FUND company to their reign of promised investment and a miserable campaign

All in all, I think there are three things we need - financial, staff and executive stability but at the very least we need ONE of them!

C'mon saints fans, lets see Lowe for what he is, someone with the financial acumen that we need right now - he may not be a Saint but we need to make some compromises if we are to get back where we belong!

Financial acumen? Greed is the word you were looking for. Last time around he took a large amount of money out of the club while putting nothing back in - more than generous share dividends and the highest paid chairman in the AIM listings.All that when he should have been investing in the team to consolidate our position in the top half of the premiere league.
we can do without him leeching yet more funds from SFC thanks.

StPete, Heaven on 9:50am today

Jesus_02 wrote:

Phil wrote:

Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda

What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change
Jesus_02 wrote:

Phil wrote:
Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!
The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !
ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda
What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change

Bet you don't even live in England, Sod off!

Lowe wants to be back at the helm so he doesn't have to sell his shares! I hope Crouch gets the investment proposal sorted so that Lowe doesn't have a choice but to sell and get out!!

the future of the club is that it will not see the end of next season.
This information has come from within the clubs accountants.
Nobody wants to pay the money for the club and will be in a worse state than bournemouth are currently in soon.

St antone wrote:

StPete, Heaven on 9:50am today

Jesus_02 wrote:

Phil wrote:

Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda

What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change Jesus_02 wrote: Phil wrote: Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered! The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself ! ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change

Bet you don't even live in England, Sod off!

Typical reaction from an anti-lowe brigade member. Wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and try again

Two things; Lowe is not a saviour, he's the bloke who gave Harry about £150000 to bolster the team, and prevent us from being relegated to the championship, as opposed to the 8 million which was spent trying to get us back up.
Secondly, since any deal has to be acceptable to Lowe/Wilde it really doesn't make much difference whether he's at the helm or not. At least as far as the investment is concerned.

32,000 on Saturday all behind the team. All those who weren't there exactly the same.

As soon as Lowe returns (pray to God this does not happen), divisions will begin.

Sadly, this is exactly what the club does not need when we need everyone behind the team still.

Rupert had Premiership income when we went down. Our first season in the championship was a disaster and opportunity missed thanks to his penny-pinching to ensure share-holders got dividends.

Exactly why do some people think he will be the saviour?

Has he announced somewhere that he is bringing investment that he failed to get in over ten years at the helm?

Or am I missing something?

Rupert Lowe is THE last thing Southampton Football Club needs.

I went to the match on Sunday and sat with an Ex Saints player who says that Rupert Lowe has got a consortium coming in with him,with a £50 million goody bag.Mind you ,what Rupert does with that money is anyones guess !!

Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls.

FACTS
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority.

OPINIONS
If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else.
If you want Lowe out you have Rabies!
If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain.
If you dislike Lowe you are young.
If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam.

I haven't read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo's pages!!!

Why can't Crouch keep his big gob shut. If he was so sure that he had big time investors then surely as Chairman he should be a bit more discrete on whet he is saying. but no, he has to talk to the Daily Star. Perhaps that is the only newspaper that will listen to him
Crouch is determined to keep out the duo, telling the Daily Star: "The fans do not want this to happen. If they return, it will divide the staff at St Mary's.

next the Beano and Dandy will do a feature

If crouch was so **** sure about lowelife not comming back then he should wait until the agm and deliver his coup de grere.

Me I think Crouch is running **** scared hence the reason for his constant out burst of late.

Keep lowe out...he will destroy this club. Name one good thing Lowe did for this club? e.g. support for the manager, backing in transfer markets.... he is not good!!

Wazza wrote:
Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven't read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo's pages!!!

I haven't read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo's pages!!!
Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

LOWE, WILDE, CROUCH, I dont want any of them, but if I had to choose, it would be to stick with Crouch for now. Been there done that with the Lowe/Wilde board and well, we'd have probably be playing this coming weekend in the FA Barclays Premier League, fighting to beat the old enemy... Pompey but instead, thanks to Lowe, we are just after a heart stopping relegation battle 32 places below pompey. What was that, you want Lowe back.... hmmm in 2010 we might be 52 places below pomepy.........

Despite the rabid anti Rupert Lowe comments on this site over the last months, I never heard or saw any incling of a protest on Sunday. If the Saints web site is to be believed, Season Ticket sales are storming ahead. Great news, and with a proper business man only days away from running the club, things are beggining to look brighter already.

StPete, Heaven on 12:57pm today

St antone wrote:

StPete, Heaven on 9:50am today

Jesus_02 wrote:

Phil wrote:

Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!

The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !

ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda

What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change Jesus_02 wrote: Phil wrote: Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered! The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself ! ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change

Bet you don't even live in England, Sod off!

Typical reaction from an anti-lowe brigade member. Wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and try again
St antone wrote:

StPete, Heaven on 9:50am today
Jesus_02 wrote:
Phil wrote:
Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered!
The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself !
ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda
What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change Jesus_02 wrote: Phil wrote: Captain Swing wrote: A little bird has it that Jonathon Fulthorpe is a great chum of Keith Wiseman's, the last remaining "Rebel" on the board. Further, there is no indication that either he, John Cousins or Dave Merrington require the wherewithal to buy a major stake in the club, never mind satisfy the twisted desires of those who believe a Richard Branson, the Sultan of Brunei or someone of that ilk should be allowed to own (and lavish their billions freely on) the Club. So, one does get the impressuon that this "approach" is a smokescreen designed to make it look as if Leon Crouch and compnay are doing something to further the interests of the Club. I'm sure Leon means well but ... frankly he should have begged Rupert to return when Semour Pearce approached the board with the highly dubious Sisu deal, he is evidently out of his depth. The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better, although I'm not sure I fancy him sharing the steeering duties with Michael Wilde. Still beggers can't be choosers, and we are beggered! The sooner Lowe is back the better ? What planet are people on ? They seem to think that Lowe will be a saviour, and not just the same pompous, arrogant, money grabbing idiot he was before. Don't be surprised if having come back and taken control (Wilde in tow as his patsy) he pays a £20 per share dividend, then buys back Crouches shares with the clubs remaining coffers... he really is only interested in himself ! ignore "Captain Swing", "Captain Spin" more like. Lowe has sought to turn peoples opinion of him by using forum's and such, he's done it before and he will do it again. Anyone that believes that "The sooner Rupert is back at the helm the better" is barking or else they have an alternative agenda What a load of rubbish. Captain Swing makes an intelligent comment, and it is followed with more dribble from members of the Leon 'way out of his depth' Crouch fan club (aka - anti-lowe brigade). Try to not be so stubborn, look past your blind hatred of Lowe and put the club ahead of your ego's for a change
Bet you don't even live in England, Sod off!
Typical reaction from an anti-lowe brigade member. Wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and try again

Get a life sad pickings. Next you'll be saying illingsworth and his bum chums are good for the club.

I wonder whether anyone can enlighten me on something (not 'crew' please - I already know what you are going to write). I have not heard anything about what Lowe is going to DO for our club. I* understand that he needs to protect/benefit from his investment, but we as fans don't really care about that. So come on Mr Lowe, how about telling us your plans for SFC - or do they not exist????

I agrre that what we really need is massive investment, but the problem that I see is that we are currently not an attractive club for investors. I am sure that there are people out there who would be prepared to take over the club, but when it has been well publicised that the club is in danger of entering administration, surely any interested party will be waiting for the plug to be pulled to grab the club at a bargain price? Our preserved Championship status is a massive step towards making SFC a more attractive proposition.

Has anyone thought of asking Paul Allen of Microsoft if he is interested...

Solent Saint wrote:
Despite the rabid anti Rupert Lowe comments on this site over the last months, I never heard or saw any incling of a protest on Sunday. If the Saints web site is to be believed, Season Ticket sales are storming ahead. Great news, and with a proper business man only days away from running the club, things are beggining to look brighter already.

I'll think you'll find we were leaving politics out of the equation and supporting the more urgent cause of getting behind the team

Believe me, the people who how Lowe likes to condust SFC affairs will will fight the battle when it arrives.

Lowe won't be here long after he meddles with manager, sells star assets, limits transfer budgets to unreasonably low figures, sees gate receipts down as a consequence and looks out to see effigies of himself being burnt in the street.

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote: Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!!

I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!! Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

?????

Think you’ve missed my point here Baz. My opinion is that getting Rupert back would be a backwards step. What I was trying to get at was how the usual suspects on this board make broad generalisations to typify the “anti-Lowe brigade”.

(It's worth noting that all I am anti-Lowe, I show no signs of Rabies!)

Say NO to Lowe.

Reason's given for being against the resturn of Lowe and responses.

Irrational hatred. No, just that he failed last time he was in the job.

He's a toff. I couldn't care less. I have friends from all backgrounds. What counts is results and Lowe delivered a potentially disastrous relegation after years of great revenue and opportunties.

No brain. I am educated to a Masters Degree level and do not think he is right for the club.

Young. 33 so reasonably young but not a child.

Sit/stand in the Northam. All stands are good for different reasons and I can't afford a season ticket so go where I can.

Don't support Saints. Exactly the reason I don't want him back. His return will divide the fans when we need to be united.

Simon Templar wrote:

Solent Saint wrote: Despite the rabid anti Rupert Lowe comments on this site over the last months, I never heard or saw any incling of a protest on Sunday. If the Saints web site is to be believed, Season Ticket sales are storming ahead. Great news, and with a proper business man only days away from running the club, things are beggining to look brighter already.

I'll think you'll find we were leaving politics out of the equation and supporting the more urgent cause of getting behind the team Believe me, the people who how Lowe likes to condust SFC affairs will will fight the battle when it arrives. Lowe won't be here long after he meddles with manager, sells star assets, limits transfer budgets to unreasonably low figures, sees gate receipts down as a consequence and looks out to see effigies of himself being burnt in the street.

If you looked at the Chapel end you would have seen the 'duck off Lowe' banner all through the match. not original but some proof that the anti Lowe movement is still there. I assume all of the others were, as S T says, focussing their energies on the relegation battle.
From now on I imagine we can expect to see many people asking what Lowe is offering us.
The only statement so far is from Wilde who promised lean times ahead- this means reducing the wage bill and promoting academy players before their time. There is no other way to reduce running costs.
Whether the fans will stand for this is open to question - especially as Lowe will be paying himself £300 thousand a year for the managerial expertise which saw us get through 10 managers in 10 years, employ a rugby guru as director of football, and achieve relegation.
All of this ignores the real need which is to attract a new investor in the same way that other clubs have. Wilde himself came in on a ticket promising to do just that. Why has he suddenly changed his mind to the extent of putting us back right where we were before he ousted Lowe?
It seems that the asylum is being handed back to the patients!

Wazza wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote: Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!!

I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!! Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

????? Think you’ve missed my point here Baz. My opinion is that getting Rupert back would be a backwards step. What I was trying to get at was how the usual suspects on this board make broad generalisations to typify the “anti-Lowe brigade”. (It's worth noting that all I am anti-Lowe, I show no signs of Rabies!)

Sorry Wazza. I did miss the point.
I still can't believe that those people who fail to accept how he couldn't keep a team in the Prem with so much funding from gate and sky money, think he will rescue us when he doesn't have a pot to p*ss in. A GOOD businessman knows when to invest in his business and Lowe doesn't understand that. We supporters could see how much damage his under investment was doing to the playing squad, yet he still knew best. To offer a comparison, no sane house owner would ignore advice to treat his house when diagnosed with woodworm or dry rot, just as no sane football club chairman should ignore the concerns of thousands of supporters and ex professional footballers, when it is pointed out week after week, month after month and (in Rupert's case) year after year that his under investment has weakened his business.
I'm with those who are still waiting for him to actually let us know what his rescue plan involves.

Directors of football clubs should be unpaid, Shareholders should not take dividends. The total inco0me of a football club should be used to sustain the football.

Lowe and Wilde should give this undertaking to the supporters.

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote: Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!!

I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!! Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

????? Think you’ve missed my point here Baz. My opinion is that getting Rupert back would be a backwards step. What I was trying to get at was how the usual suspects on this board make broad generalisations to typify the “anti-Lowe brigade”. (It's worth noting that all I am anti-Lowe, I show no signs of Rabies!)

Sorry Wazza. I did miss the point. I still can't believe that those people who fail to accept how he couldn't keep a team in the Prem with so much funding from gate and sky money, think he will rescue us when he doesn't have a pot to p*ss in. A GOOD businessman knows when to invest in his business and Lowe doesn't understand that. We supporters could see how much damage his under investment was doing to the playing squad, yet he still knew best. To offer a comparison, no sane house owner would ignore advice to treat his house when diagnosed with woodworm or dry rot, just as no sane football club chairman should ignore the concerns of thousands of supporters and ex professional footballers, when it is pointed out week after week, month after month and (in Rupert's case) year after year that his under investment has weakened his business. I'm with those who are still waiting for him to actually let us know what his rescue plan involves.

What you mean is, no sane house owner would ignore woodworm if they have the money to get the problem sorted.

Everyone seems to be convinced that it is the Fullthorpe/Cousins/M
errington consortium that is the likely source of finance, as has been stated previously it is doubtful whether they individually or collectively carry the financial clout to make a real difference to our club.

On Monday I heard of a second consortium , there are no details of the principles but the "football man" / go between is one Sam Alardyce, he is not apparently interested in managing the club but is involved with the money men in a football advisory role.

Pie in the sky? The next few days will tell but we desperately need a big injection of capital and soon in order for us to plan for next season, ensurng that we keep the players we want and are in a position to bring new players in sooner rather than later.

Will the anti-Lowe brigade please be men of honour (look it up) and do what they promised to do if Lowe comes back.
1. Not show up to any games next season.
2. Give their shares away, 'cos I'll have them!

Thank you

What is needed at Southampton FC right is stability and peace. I think messrs Lowe, Wilde and Crouch should be working together to get the club back to the top flight of English soccer.
Southampton will never have the mega-rich investor, so what we need is Lowe and Wilde running the business side of the Club and Crouch taking care of the Football side.
Please bury your differences guys and work together for the good of the Club and the City of Southampton.

Another case of double speak "Iknow of no deal" means there is one in the offing and things have not reached the stage where a "deal" has been offered.As for not speaking to Leon for months well if you believe that you'll believe anything how can that be since Lowe and Wilde have been negotiating with the"board" for a date for an EGM.This is just a side swipe at Leon.
Please sell your shares now and vanish a.s.a.p.

WHAT ON EARTH IS LEON CROUCH UP TO?WHY DOES HE HAVE TO EVERY TIME SPEAK TO THE MEDIA ABOUT BUSINESS WHEN THIS SORT OF THING SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN PRIVATE IF HE WAS A PROFFESSIONAL BUSINESSMAN,AND ONLY ANNOUNCE THINGS WHEN THEY ARE DONE AND DUSTED.HE IS A SHAMBLES TO THIS CLUB AND THE SOONER HE GOES THE BETTER!WAY WAY OUT OF HIS DEPTH.

Tracey wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote: Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!!

I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!! Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

????? Think you’ve missed my point here Baz. My opinion is that getting Rupert back would be a backwards step. What I was trying to get at was how the usual suspects on this board make broad generalisations to typify the “anti-Lowe brigade”. (It's worth noting that all I am anti-Lowe, I show no signs of Rabies!)

Sorry Wazza. I did miss the point. I still can't believe that those people who fail to accept how he couldn't keep a team in the Prem with so much funding from gate and sky money, think he will rescue us when he doesn't have a pot to p*ss in. A GOOD businessman knows when to invest in his business and Lowe doesn't understand that. We supporters could see how much damage his under investment was doing to the playing squad, yet he still knew best. To offer a comparison, no sane house owner would ignore advice to treat his house when diagnosed with woodworm or dry rot, just as no sane football club chairman should ignore the concerns of thousands of supporters and ex professional footballers, when it is pointed out week after week, month after month and (in Rupert's case) year after year that his under investment has weakened his business. I'm with those who are still waiting for him to actually let us know what his rescue plan involves.

What you mean is, no sane house owner would ignore woodworm if they have the money to get the problem sorted.

As I said. GOOD businessmen KNOW when to invest money in their business, just as sane house owners KNOW when to move heaven and earth to protect their investment, by diverting money from other areas to meet the most urgent need. Lowe's most urgent need was safeguarding our place in the Premier League and however you look at it HE FAILED . Lowe could have spent more money on players the managers actually wanted and told the share holders that there would be no premium owing to the need to utilise the capital in order to keep the business, ie the football club, on a sound footing. As most shareholders claim to be Saints supporters, I don't think he would have had any trouble convincing them that investing more money in the team, and staying in the Premier League, would have been of more benefit than them being relegated and having their shares drop in value. Unfortunately Rupert, not being a fan decided to go for a profit so he could reap a dividend. He looked at short term gain as against the long term and I would imagine he has lost heavily owing to the drop in value of the shares he has been given. But then, if you have never paid for your shares you will gain regardless of their value, so I don't suppose Rupert actually gives a ****.

Costa Baz wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

Wazza wrote: Is this what I have to look forward to over the summer?! Might take up supporting Badminton or Bowls. FACTS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Lowe debate splits the fan base pretty evenly. (i.e. there is no clear majority and no clear minority. OPINIONS If you want Lowe out, you base this on an irrational hatred of him, rather than on anything else. If you want Lowe out you have Rabies! If you are are anti-lowe you have no brain. If you dislike Lowe you are young. If you dislike Lowe you definitely sit in the Northam. I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!!

I haven\'t read so much **** since, well since, the last time I looked in on the Rupert Lowe debate on the Daily Echo\'s pages!!! Try re-reading your post then. How much does Rupert pay you to post this puerile and inaccurate spin?

????? Think you’ve missed my point here Baz. My opinion is that getting Rupert back would be a backwards step. What I was trying to get at was how the usual suspects on this board make broad generalisations to typify the “anti-Lowe brigade”. (It's worth noting that all I am anti-Lowe, I show no signs of Rabies!)

Sorry Wazza. I did miss the point. I still can't believe that those people who fail to accept how he couldn't keep a team in the Prem with so much funding from gate and sky money, think he will rescue us when he doesn't have a pot to p*ss in. A GOOD businessman knows when to invest in his business and Lowe doesn't understand that. We supporters could see how much damage his under investment was doing to the playing squad, yet he still knew best. To offer a comparison, no sane house owner would ignore advice to treat his house when diagnosed with woodworm or dry rot, just as no sane football club chairman should ignore the concerns of thousands of supporters and ex professional footballers, when it is pointed out week after week, month after month and (in Rupert's case) year after year that his under investment has weakened his business. I'm with those who are still waiting for him to actually let us know what his rescue plan involves.

What you mean is, no sane house owner would ignore woodworm if they have the money to get the problem sorted.

As I said. GOOD businessmen KNOW when to invest money in their business, just as sane house owners KNOW when to move heaven and earth to protect their investment, by diverting money from other areas to meet the most urgent need. Lowe's most urgent need was safeguarding our place in the Premier League and however you look at it HE FAILED . Lowe could have spent more money on players the managers actually wanted and told the share holders that there would be no premium owing to the need to utilise the capital in order to keep the business, ie the football club, on a sound footing. As most shareholders claim to be Saints supporters, I don't think he would have had any trouble convincing them that investing more money in the team, and staying in the Premier League, would have been of more benefit than them being relegated and having their shares drop in value. Unfortunately Rupert, not being a fan decided to go for a profit so he could reap a dividend. He looked at short term gain as against the long term and I would imagine he has lost heavily owing to the drop in value of the shares he has been given. But then, if you have never paid for your shares you will gain regardless of their value, so I don't suppose Rupert actually gives a ****.

Even good businessmen cant invest what isn't in the bank.

Of course Wilde knows about the deal. I alluded to it on this very web site a couple of days ago!

Mung knows all!

We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that.
We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth,
we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde
we must get now,not to-morrow.
I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership
next season,not another season struggling in
the Championship.
Positive Saints Fan
David Crook

David Crook wrote:
We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

Nurse is calling David.

Time for you medicine.

Leon CROUCH saved SFC,by appointing Nigel Pearson,FACT!

David Crook wrote:
We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

SPOT ON,WE'VE GOT TO THINK POSITIVE.CAN'T WAIT FOR THE E.G.M. AND CAST MY VOTE.IT'LL BE GOOD TO GET SOME PROFESSIONALS BACK IN CHARGE INSTEAD OF THESE MUPPETS.

Andy P wrote:

David Crook wrote: We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

Nurse is calling David. Time for you medicine. Leon CROUCH saved SFC,by appointing Nigel Pearson,FACT!

Were is your ambition Andy,perhaps you want Saints struggling and playing championship
football,I look beyond that,and want Saints playing in the Premiership were they belong,Crouch is a waste of space,and a suit of bugger all. FACT
It's time to move forward Andy
David Crook

David Crook wrote:

Andy P wrote:

David Crook wrote: We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

Nurse is calling David. Time for you medicine. Leon CROUCH saved SFC,by appointing Nigel Pearson,FACT!

Were is your ambition Andy,perhaps you want Saints struggling and playing championship football,I look beyond that,and want Saints playing in the Premiership were they belong,Crouch is a waste of space,and a suit of bugger all. FACT It's time to move forward Andy David Crook

Please explain what Crouch has actually done WRONG.

pugwash wrote:

David Crook wrote: We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

SPOT ON,WE\'VE GOT TO THINK POSITIVE.CAN\'T WAIT FOR THE E.G.M. AND CAST MY VOTE.IT\'LL BE GOOD TO GET SOME PROFESSIONALS BACK IN CHARGE INSTEAD OF THESE MUPPETS.

Thank you Pugwash,it's good to see positive saints supporters.
All the Best
David Crook

FACT Business men are business 1st football away of making money mr lowe & his chums have proved that they are bad businiss men by taking to much &putting us this mess mr wilde has proved he is not up for the job by running away Mr crouch&his mates stayed&thank God they did wilde would be lowes puppet with lowe pulling the strings Fans live for the club its not 3rd or 4th on the list after hockey rugby duck shooting or a nice cup of sherry support the SAINTS SAY NO TO lowe

Andy P wrote:

David Crook wrote: We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

Nurse is calling David. Time for you medicine. Leon CROUCH saved SFC,by appointing Nigel Pearson,FACT!

Saints were saved because Leicester only drew and Coventry lost, it was out of our hands on the final day, we were lucky other results went our way.

Crouch took the club to the brink of Div 1 FACT

SaintSimon wrote:
This is a message to the anti-Lowe brigade in the hope that they might consider the bigger picture, rather than simply the next season/dislike of a person . At worst, Lowe is going to want to come back, try and build up the value of his shares and then sell up, which is probably the most likely - for some of the younger/Northam fans this is a good thing as it will bring FINANCIAL STABILITY , at the moment we have INSTABILITY in staff (playing and coaching), board, finances - not good at all. Consider this: a) we can whinge about this situation - \"we don\'t want our club turning into a business opportunity\" - get real. Football is primarily a business now, the only thing about Southampton left is the colour of our shirts and the support of the fans so it is imperative we stick together and support the (frighteningly overpaid and overvalued) team. b) If Lowe should win the EGM then we support the regime, hopefully build the club up financially AND THEN possibly a new investor that can fulfill all of our wildest (no pun intended) dreams will arrive. c) we can delude ourselves that we can afford promotion (considering we have not been successful in the transfer market since our relegation I think to assume we could wheel and deal our way up is too unrealistic a pressure for Pearson to realistically achieve and would probably result in more managerial instability] and can play our way out of it. d) trust the efforts of Crouch et al who, whilst undoubtedly true Saints fans, have only the offer of a HEDGE FUND company to their reign of promised investment and a miserable campaign All in all, I think there are three things we need - financial, staff and executive stability but at the very least we need ONE of them! C\'mon saints fans, lets see Lowe for what he is, someone with the financial acumen that we need right now - he may not be a Saint but we need to make some compromises if we are to get back where we belong!

Even allowing for Lowe's known penchant for using the internet to bolster his image as the prodigal son of Southampton football club the latest offerings from the Lowe Brigade beggar belief.
Forget the past they say, it didnt happen.We were never relegated from the Premiership. never got through a dozen managers, never watser £12 million on second rate players and plenty of them at that.The lack of calibre of such football playing worthies is summed up by the fact that the most expensive of them was Rory Delap at 4 million, and he was way over priced at that.
Rupert Lowe was the worst chairman of a football club ever, full stop.
Having escaped relegation, we have to hope that Leon Crouch and his friends can somehow extricate the club from an even worse fate that of a return to the mad Lowe years where instability reigned supreme.
Because if they dont the club faces an even more turbulent year thab the one that has just ended.

Andy P wrote:

David Crook wrote:

Andy P wrote:

David Crook wrote: We have to get Lowe and Wilde back in place within the next few weeks,for if we keep Crouch and his mates in the boardroom any longer,we will have another disaster of a season next year do we want that. We have been given a lifeline by staying in the championship by the skin of our teeth, we need change to move forward,Lowe and Wilde we must get now,not to-morrow. I want Saints for promotion to the Premiership next season,not another season struggling in the Championship. Positive Saints Fan David Crook

Nurse is calling David. Time for you medicine. Leon CROUCH saved SFC,by appointing Nigel Pearson,FACT!

Were is your ambition Andy,perhaps you want Saints struggling and playing championship football,I look beyond that,and want Saints playing in the Premiership were they belong,Crouch is a waste of space,and a suit of bugger all. FACT It's time to move forward Andy David Crook

Please explain what Crouch has actually done WRONG.

Crouch didn't sack Burley, and when Burley did leave Dodd and Gorman were appointed managers - what a disaster that was.

NOTICE HOW THE LOWE LUVVIES ARE USING MULTIPLE IDENTITIES ON HERE. LMAO. I GUESS LOWE IS THAT UNPOPULAR HE NEEDS THIS.

Anti Lowe's return wrote:
Say NO to Lowe.

Reason's given for being against the resturn of Lowe and responses.

Irrational hatred. No, just that he failed last time he was in the job.

He's a toff. I couldn't care less. I have friends from all backgrounds. What counts is results and Lowe delivered a potentially disastrous relegation after years of great revenue and opportunties.

No brain. I am educated to a Masters Degree level and do not think he is right for the club.

Young. 33 so reasonably young but not a child.

Sit/stand in the Northam. All stands are good for different reasons and I can't afford a season ticket so go where I can.

Don't support Saints. Exactly the reason I don't want him back. His return will divide the fans when we need to be united.

I 100% agree, if this club is going to take any steps forward then we need all the fans behind the team, there is alot more unity now than there will be if/when Lowe returns! Personally I don't think we have any choice but to accept that he is returning. The amount of rumors going round and always have gone round it is almost impossible to believe anything about a takeover until it happens so lets all sit tight and cross every part of our body that we possibly can in the hope the Lowe will not return but as I said, I don't think we have any choice but accepting it will happen. SFC will go from low to L1 until we get any sort of investment or takeover!

SAY NO TO LOWE!!!!!