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12:32pm Thursday 8th May 2008
There have been further reports today of an imminent bid for Saints.
It has been common knowledge for some time that a consortium featuring Jonathan Fulthorpe, John Cousins and Dave Merrington were planning a move for the club.
But up until now they have been unable to provide proof of funds for a deal.
However, a report today suggests they have secured the funding to buy the club though as yet no offer has been made.
The Stock Exchange will be informed immediately if they do make a bid with a move before the end of this week the target of the currently board who are set to be replaced next week by Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde.
Benny Fitt, Thornhill says...
1:40pm Thu 8 May 08
happy, GODS LAND says...
1:42pm Thu 8 May 08
Hoping the FA cup goes to Wales, The other to Lowe says...
1:42pm Thu 8 May 08
Rich, London says...
2:00pm Thu 8 May 08
Benny Fitt wrote:Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!
the totton scrutineer, TOTTON says...
2:12pm Thu 8 May 08
???, says...
2:14pm Thu 8 May 08
rational, says...
2:20pm Thu 8 May 08
??? wrote:The article says they have "secured the funding".
It doesnt say anywhere that they had to BORROW money, also dave merrington has said on more than one occasion that if they took control, the manager would have money to spend on players, these guys are far from poor! Heres hoping it goes through
Hank, says...
2:23pm Thu 8 May 08
Dan, Central Southampton says...
2:24pm Thu 8 May 08
Anon, says...
2:27pm Thu 8 May 08
Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
2:44pm Thu 8 May 08
Rich wrote:That's great Rich! It is ages since we were compared with Liverpool and Manchester United!
Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
Dont ask, Home says...
2:46pm Thu 8 May 08
rational, says...
2:51pm Thu 8 May 08
Artful Dodger wrote:And I look forward to us buying players like Torres!
Rich wrote:That's great Rich! It is ages since we were compared with Liverpool and Manchester United! Premier League, here we come!Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
Mark, Southampton says...
2:52pm Thu 8 May 08
rational, says...
2:55pm Thu 8 May 08
Dont ask wrote:Actually, the BBC weather says it's going to rain....
Keep calm people, the money is in place and enough of it at that. Friday should a very sunny day.
SAINT BEAN, SOUTHAMPTON says...
3:21pm Thu 8 May 08
Pedant, Southampton says...
3:26pm Thu 8 May 08
happy wrote:Devicive ? Sounds like you're calling someone a tool. The word you're probably looking for is "divisive". HTH.
FINGERS CROSSED THIS GOES AHEAD - I DAREN'T THINK HOW DEVICIVE IT COULD BE IF WOOPERT WETURNS. KEEP OUR NIGE!!!
sensible, says...
3:30pm Thu 8 May 08
rational wrote:I don't think you intended it but your description sounds just like Lowe and his sheep.
Sounds really hopeful. A bunch of locals have managed to borrow some cash to buy the shares? Not exactly investment is it? Is this what Leon has been pinning his hopes on all this time?
Costa Baz, says...
3:34pm Thu 8 May 08
??? wrote:Merrington also said he would not have employed Pearson, after Crouch took him on, so we could still be looking for a new manager.
It doesnt say anywhere that they had to BORROW money, also dave merrington has said on more than one occasion that if they took control, the manager would have money to spend on players, these guys are far from poor! Heres hoping it goes through
DJI, Kingsland Centre says...
3:34pm Thu 8 May 08
Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
3:36pm Thu 8 May 08
Costa Baz wrote:Yea money to spend on players from Cheltenham, wrexham, bournemouth and accrington Stanley
??? wrote:Merrington also said he would not have employed Pearson, after Crouch took him on, so we could still be looking for a new manager.
It doesnt say anywhere that they had to BORROW money, also dave merrington has said on more than one occasion that if they took control, the manager would have money to spend on players, these guys are far from poor! Heres hoping it goes through
Let's at least hope they make an offer and that it satisfies that megalomaniac Lowe. Should the offer be rejected then I only hope the size of the offer is made public as soon as is legally possible so Lowe can be judged by the supporters. It would be fascinating to know if a refusal to sell is due to the offer not being good enough for the club or not good enough for Lowe, which I feel are two entirely different things. How much money would it take for Lowe to sell his shares and keep his smug mug out of the media spotlight generated by a football club?
Bingo, Sholing says...
3:39pm Thu 8 May 08
rational, says...
3:46pm Thu 8 May 08
sensible wrote:That was partly my point. But if it is borrowed money (or secured if you prefer), then how is this to be paid for? There is no such thing as free money.
rational wrote: Sounds really hopeful. A bunch of locals have managed to borrow some cash to buy the shares? Not exactly investment is it? Is this what Leon has been pinning his hopes on all this time?I don\'t think you intended it but your description sounds just like Lowe and his sheep. Hopefully we will soon have heard the last of them!
rational, says...
3:49pm Thu 8 May 08
DJI wrote:That's the trouble with internet rumours - I read that it was a group connected to Lowe that had the £50m.
It seems the pint glass is its' usual half-empty down on the south coast!? All season you've moaned about the need for investment and new players, etc. and Lowe and Wilde gone. Now with the chance of it possibly imminent, you are now questioning how and doubting how far it will go. It was suggested that the fund is about £50m. To buy the shares, it will take around £10m-£12m and the new company takes over the business with its' debts and revenue streams. The season ticket revenue to date will become theirs as well as any future ticket sales and sales of merchandise (like the new kit). On top of that, selling certain players will generate an income to help with the purchase of new ones. Along with a few shrewd cost cuts, sponsorship and TV revenues and you have a business. So some of you should welcome this possibility with optimism and trust in those who are skilled enough to raise the capital to use it wisely.
Ric Flair, says...
3:58pm Thu 8 May 08
Kate, Andover says...
4:16pm Thu 8 May 08
Costa Baz wrote:I said we shouldn't have got Nigel Pearson in (at the time when he was brought in) and I have completely changed my mind since then.
??? wrote: It doesnt say anywhere that they had to BORROW money, also dave merrington has said on more than one occasion that if they took control, the manager would have money to spend on players, these guys are far from poor! Heres hoping it goes throughMerrington also said he would not have employed Pearson, after Crouch took him on, so we could still be looking for a new manager. Let\'s at least hope they make an offer and that it satisfies that megalomaniac Lowe. Should the offer be rejected then I only hope the size of the offer is made public as soon as is legally possible so Lowe can be judged by the supporters. It would be fascinating to know if a refusal to sell is due to the offer not being good enough for the club or not good enough for Lowe, which I feel are two entirely different things. How much money would it take for Lowe to sell his shares and keep his smug mug out of the media spotlight generated by a football club?
sensible, says...
4:17pm Thu 8 May 08
rational wrote:The possibility is that there is reasonably substantial investment by non-UK investors.
sensible wrote:That was partly my point. But if it is borrowed money (or secured if you prefer), then how is this to be paid for? There is no such thing as free money. My other concern is whether this will bring nothing new into the finances, plus we will not have any experienced football people in charge again.rational wrote: Sounds really hopeful. A bunch of locals have managed to borrow some cash to buy the shares? Not exactly investment is it? Is this what Leon has been pinning his hopes on all this time?I don\'t think you intended it but your description sounds just like Lowe and his sheep. Hopefully we will soon have heard the last of them!
Martin Wild, Lymington says...
4:44pm Thu 8 May 08
Tracey, Southampton says...
6:44pm Thu 8 May 08
Rich wrote:Man U and Liverpool are global brands though so they can sell loads more merchandise and they get bigger crowds. If this consortium has borrowed the money then this could be very bad news but the feeling I get is the consortium is either a group of rich individuals or companies with money in the bank negating the need to borrow - so fingers crossed.
Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
peter seddon, says...
6:50pm Thu 8 May 08
Tracey, Southampton says...
6:59pm Thu 8 May 08
Tracey wrote:Dickheads
Rich wrote:Man U and Liverpool are global brands though so they can sell loads more merchandise and they get bigger crowds. If this consortium has borrowed the money then this could be very bad news but the feeling I get is the consortium is either a group of rich individuals or companies with money in the bank negating the need to borrow - so fingers crossed.Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
Tracey, Southampton says...
7:22pm Thu 8 May 08
Martin Wild wrote:I wouldn't call building a new stadium, giving the manager 7 million to spend or trying (yes I know he failed) to find new investment doing nothing.
I'm a bit surprised that Leon hasn't joined the consortium as I know he will do his best for the club he is a go getter ,not like the other 2 who seem to do nothing for the club !
rational, says...
7:22pm Thu 8 May 08
Tracey wrote:Unfortunately, the article (and others preceding this) talk about 'securing' the finances/funding. I'm fairly sure this means borrowing, or persuading a non-fan to put in substantial investment (ie put it in to get something back)
Rich wrote:Man U and Liverpool are global brands though so they can sell loads more merchandise and they get bigger crowds. If this consortium has borrowed the money then this could be very bad news but the feeling I get is the consortium is either a group of rich individuals or companies with money in the bank negating the need to borrow - so fingers crossed.Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
Tracey, Southampton says...
7:40pm Thu 8 May 08
rational wrote:Investors always want a return on the money no matter if they are fans or not. If it does turn out to be borrowed money then I'd be worried about Saints ability to repay it so a rich non-fan will do nicely.
Tracey wrote:Unfortunately, the article (and others preceding this) talk about 'securing' the finances/funding. I'm fairly sure this means borrowing, or persuading a non-fan to put in substantial investment (ie put it in to get something back)Rich wrote:Man U and Liverpool are global brands though so they can sell loads more merchandise and they get bigger crowds. If this consortium has borrowed the money then this could be very bad news but the feeling I get is the consortium is either a group of rich individuals or companies with money in the bank negating the need to borrow - so fingers crossed.Benny Fitt wrote: If they have had to BORROW money to buy shares, it does not look very likely that they will have any cash to spend on players! If the number of current season ticket holders who have claimed that they will not renew for next season, is true, then there will not be a great deal of cash from that source either. Maybe the new shirt will be a 'sell-out'! I can't help thinking that it would be a case of 'jumping from the frying pan, into the fire'!Er, how they might choose to finance any share deal does not necessarily indicate how much they can put into the club. Look at the Glazers Man U purchase, or even more relevant, Liverpool - this did not seem to stop them finding lots of cash for Torres and the multiple others at huge cost, way more than Liverpool ever spent before
Mike, Totton says...
7:52pm Thu 8 May 08
Kevin, Maybush says...
7:53pm Thu 8 May 08
sainthog7, heres&now says...
7:58pm Thu 8 May 08
Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:02pm Thu 8 May 08
rational, says...
8:20pm Thu 8 May 08
sainthog7 wrote:If they are in it for the money, they are coming to the wrong place as we have none and are losing it by the bucketful. They can only profit if we are successful, which can only be good for the club.
can you see lowe 6 co selling their golden goose they are not fans just business men who like to be in the limelight & filling their pockets say no to lowe&SUPPORT the SAINTS
tommac, london says...
9:04pm Thu 8 May 08
Mike, Southampton says...
10:13pm Thu 8 May 08
Me, At home says...
10:20pm Thu 8 May 08
AK47, In the War Zone says...
11:54pm Thu 8 May 08
St. Paul, Heaven says...
11:20am Fri 9 May 08
Kate, Andover says...
3:04pm Fri 9 May 08
Kate wrote:Good news - my car passed it's MOT - surely that's a good sign........??
Costa Baz wrote:I said we shouldn't have got Nigel Pearson in (at the time when he was brought in) and I have completely changed my mind since then. Hopefully Dave has too. Hopefully the funds will come soon. Hopefully my car will pass it's MOT tomorrow. Hopefully it will snow at Christmas. Hopefully I will win the lottery this weekend. Hoping isn't enough, it won't make it happen. Even if it does, there's no guarantee it will bring financial stability - look at Coventry. I just want something sorted out one way or the other, quickly.??? wrote: It doesnt say anywhere that they had to BORROW money, also dave merrington has said on more than one occasion that if they took control, the manager would have money to spend on players, these guys are far from poor! Heres hoping it goes throughMerrington also said he would not have employed Pearson, after Crouch took him on, so we could still be looking for a new manager. Let\'s at least hope they make an offer and that it satisfies that megalomaniac Lowe. Should the offer be rejected then I only hope the size of the offer is made public as soon as is legally possible so Lowe can be judged by the supporters. It would be fascinating to know if a refusal to sell is due to the offer not being good enough for the club or not good enough for Lowe, which I feel are two entirely different things. How much money would it take for Lowe to sell his shares and keep his smug mug out of the media spotlight generated by a football club?
AK47, Days to Do getting Few says...
6:09pm Fri 9 May 08
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rational, says...
12:45pm Thu 8 May 08
A bunch of locals have managed to borrow some cash to buy the shares?
Not exactly investment is it?
Is this what Leon has been pinning his hopes on all this time?