Well, we are in deep sh1t trouble now

Well we never saw this one coming did we? roll eyes

WOOP WOOP!!!!

LET THE FUN BEGIN!!!!!

"We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club.

You shouldn't believe everything you read on internet message boards.

Close the door on your way out, Leon.

A sad day for the club. Leon Crouch and co did there best for us but people who hold their own ego's in higher esteem than the club hav taken over and will drive this club in2 the ground. SFC RIP

Great statement from Wiesman, just a shame these views were not given months ago. Now Lowe has to deliver success to our club, but first the fans will I feel want to know how he is to achieve this. Lets start with total honesty and transparency Mr Lowe. Good Luck I feel you may need it by the bucket load

The theme tune for SFC since the cup final should be Yakety Sax, as used by Benny Hill!

"We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club

More BS. They can now say "oh look, the investment we were bringing in isn't happening because of Lowe and Wilde" when, in reality, there is no investment, why they are trying to curry favour with a few gullible fans is beyond me.

Well as long as they keep pearson and ther are no forced sales then we wil be OK until investment rrives

OK Lowe you've thrown your weight around and finally removed a hard working bunch of directors. Now lets see you back it up and get some real investment into this club. Support Nigel Pearson - you know he's the right man for the job - and get him some funds to rebuild the squad.

Why do I get the feeling that comments like mine will fall on deaf ears. Oh yes, because last time you were in charge you failed to listen to the real football fans and look what mess that got us in to.

So you,ve got a second chance make sure you don't louse it up this time.

COYR

Continuing my doggerel of a few weeks ago......

So finally Wupert is back,
Though one hopes on a far diff'rent twack
From two thousand and six,
When his management twicks
Made most fans want to give him the sack.

I bored of hearing about football. Move the Saints ground to Pompey and let Southampton be rid of it? I'm fed up every match day of seeing red & white pikey shirts out of my window, so get rid of the lot.

Right, lets see what happens before we all go on protests about lowe...He is coming back and there is nothing we can do about it..lets just see what happens before we start calling him a posh tw@t...

i doubt many fans are are to do that and will once again play their part in making another summer a painful one...

WE'RE ALL DOOMED!

DON'T PANIC!

THE PARASITE IS BACK!

A sad day for our once great Football club.
Now it is up to the fans to show lowe he is NOT welcome here.
NO new shirts, NO ST renewals..., money is the only thing the "Greed and Self-Interest" man knows.

Soon to be Ex-ST holder wrote:
A sad day for our once great Football club. Now it is up to the fans to show lowe he is NOT welcome here. NO new shirts, NO ST renewals..., money is the only thing the \"Greed and Self-Interest\" man knows.

this is exactly the thing we should not do...fans have done enough damage over recent years and it is time to sit back and see what happens before we go into militant style protests...

jesus...support the team and ignore those off it....why is it so hard for saints fans to do

You can't just not go to the Magnificent St Mary's Stadium because you don't like/respect/want the board of directors surely? If you don't go, the board aren't affected, just the team. Ask Villa fans. They endured years of Deadly Doug Ellis and staying away from the games had no effect at all on his stewardship of the club. Of course if you feel you have no other avenue for your frustrations, I look forward to seeing you at the reserve's games.

Soon to be Ex-ST holder wrote:
A sad day for our once great Football club. Now it is up to the fans to show lowe he is NOT welcome here. NO new shirts, NO ST renewals..., money is the only thing the "Greed and Self-Interest" man knows.

this is exactly what we should NOT do...saints fans have done alot of damage exerting their influence in recent years...lets see what happens before we all go nuts for once..

god, maybe we could just support the players on the field rather than focus attention to those off it..

boring

Soon to be Ex-ST holder wrote:
A sad day for our once great Football club. Now it is up to the fans to show lowe he is NOT welcome here. NO new shirts, NO ST renewals..., money is the only thing the \"Greed and Self-Interest\" man knows.

Yes that's the way, force the club out of business because you don't like one person. That would hurt true fans like me, not Lowe. Nitwit!

Soon to be Ex-ST holder wrote:
A sad day for our once great Football club. Now it is up to the fans to show lowe he is NOT welcome here. NO new shirts, NO ST renewals..., money is the only thing the "Greed and Self-Interest" man knows.

Thats saints fans your talking about

you little sh1t

Duh wrote:
I bored of hearing about football. Move the Saints ground to Pompey and let Southampton be rid of it? I'm fed up every match day of seeing red & white pikey shirts out of my window, so get rid of the lot.

Tell you what Duh, as you don't like seeing all those red and white shirts on match days why don't you move to Pompey instead? Hopefully there will be a lot more red and white shirts next season because it will show that Saints are doing so much better and pushing for promotion.

Soon to be Ex-ST holder.. are you mental?!

That is literlly the worst thing we could do! The best thing we can do is to remain behind the club , and try and get us into a decent position again.. Lowe wont last forever.. but the club will.

Pete,

I think you have answered you own question.

"Why try to curry favour" perhaps there is a grain of truth there after all.

Crouch has not made any false claims. The merry-go-round till Rupert makes a profit from the sale of the club.

Think about it this way. Crouch has come in purchased shares at 50p if the club is sold a market value 30p a share that represents a large loss. Add this to the money he has spent on the Ted Bates statue and you have the measure of his commitment to saints.

RL made around 6m on the day that Saints where floated on the stoke exchange that alone is just under a 3rd of the clubs present value. Lowe has more wealth than Crouch because he has made a good deal from Southampton FC.

The club will be sold under RL and Wilde as :

a) they have no interest in running saints long term

b) Leon Crouch will capitulate for the benefit of the Club

c) expect large bonuses to go the way of Wilde and RL when the club changes hands

The fact that should not be overlooked is that Keith Wiseman is leaving the club after 21years of service. Says it all really

Portswood Pete wrote:
"We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club More BS. They can now say "oh look, the investment we were bringing in isn't happening because of Lowe and Wilde" when, in reality, there is no investment, why they are trying to curry favour with a few gullible fans is beyond me.

You have to much to say Pete, most of it total rubbish.

How can anyone invest in SFC, if shares are not being offered,or in this case, delibrately witheld as a means of stopping investment.

Quite simple really,dont you think?

Duh wrote:
I bored of hearing about football. Move the Saints ground to Pompey and let Southampton be rid of it? I'm fed up every match day of seeing red & white pikey shirts out of my window, so get rid of the lot.

Ever considered moving your Caravan somewhere else?

Rupert Lowe is a most divisive influence on this club and its supporters as can be witnessed by the above comments. I disliked the man for the way he managed the club last time and was glad to see the back of him. I am sure things will be no different this time around. I have my season ticket and I shall cheer on the team as always but I will not spend any money on any merchandising, food etc which is what I did when I had had enough of the man last time. I also have my duck call whistle and will let Lowe know exactly how I feel when things go badly wrong as they no doubt will when he has replaced our current team with players of Div 1 standard. Finally I met just think he has changed his spots when he confirms Nigels as our manager.

Adam F wrote:
A sad day for the club. Leon Crouch and co did there best for us but people who hold their own ego\\\'s in higher esteem than the club hav taken over and will drive this club in2 the ground. SFC RIP

The former board led by Crouch has managed to nearly destroy the club both financially and on the field .

If Richard Wright had not made that save we would probably would be in Div 1 today.

Lets now look to the future with or without Pearson it does not matter if he stays or goes and support our team.

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Rupert Lowe is a most divisive influence on this club and its supporters as can be witnessed by the above comments. I disliked the man for the way he managed the club last time and was glad to see the back of him. I am sure things will be no different this time around. I have my season ticket and I shall cheer on the team as always but I will not spend any money on any merchandising, food etc which is what I did when I had had enough of the man last time. I also have my duck call whistle and will let Lowe know exactly how I feel when things go badly wrong as they no doubt will when he has replaced our current team with players of Div 1 standard. Finally I met just think he has changed his spots when he confirms Nigels as our manager.

It is not Rupert Lowe who is divisive it is some of the fans moaning and whingeing.

Someone has to run the club you dont have to like him.

This Obsession with Pearson is ridiculous his teams won three games and he led us into the relegation zone.

Look what happened with Sheff Utd and Crystal Palace with new managers they quickly moved up the table where did we go down.

Get off lowe`s back give him a chance to repair the damage this incompetent lot have achieved. A true fan will get behind the team no matter whos running or managing it.

Andy P wrote:

Portswood Pete wrote: "We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club More BS. They can now say "oh look, the investment we were bringing in isn't happening because of Lowe and Wilde" when, in reality, there is no investment, why they are trying to curry favour with a few gullible fans is beyond me.

You have to much to say Pete, most of it total rubbish. How can anyone invest in SFC, if shares are not being offered,or in this case, delibrately witheld as a means of stopping investment. Quite simple really,dont you think?

Pots and Kettles Andy. If Sisu, or anyone else wants to buy the club there's nothing really that Lowe or anyone else can do, ask Man Utd shareholders. This talk of investors has been just that, talk, no substance whatsoever Just because you want to make Lowe the bad guy in all this doesn't make it so. The shareholder doesn't have to "offer" shares, there's got to be someone willing to buy the darn things.

Please tell me HOW Patrick Trant has "very much made his mark" on SFC ... haha biggest laugh ive had all day.

Marian wrote:
Please tell me HOW Patrick Trant has "very much made his mark" on SFC ... haha biggest laugh ive had all day.

Probably by NOT putting any money into the club although he promised he would if Lowe walked but he still got his snout in the trough.

Dave wrote:

Duh wrote:
I bored of hearing about football. Move the Saints ground to Pompey and let Southampton be rid of it? I'm fed up every match day of seeing red & white pikey shirts out of my window, so get rid of the lot.

Ever considered moving your Caravan somewhere else?

Hes right lets just give up go home and support Eastleigh

SouthwaterSaintMC wrote:
OK Lowe you've thrown your weight around and finally removed a hard working bunch of directors. Now lets see you back it up and get some real investment into this club. Support Nigel Pearson - you know he's the right man for the job - and get him some funds to rebuild the squad. Why do I get the feeling that comments like mine will fall on deaf ears. Oh yes, because last time you were in charge you failed to listen to the real football fans and look what mess that got us in to. So you,ve got a second chance make sure you don't louse it up this time. COYR

The directors that Rupert Lowe is replacing may have worked hard, but they were hopelessly out of their depth.
The investment that was promised, never materialised.
You ask why comments like your will fall on deaf ears, and claim he did not listen to 'real football fans' when he was in charge!
I wonder if you were one of the 'tiny minority' who had their chance to attend a meeting with Crouch's board members?
I doubt it!
The first priority for Rupert Lowe is to sort out the club's financial problems, and stop it leaking money.
How many 'real football fans' do you think would have the expertise to advise him on that subject?
You can bet your life, their main subject would be, 'reduce ticket prices and reduce cost of replica shirts', which would increase the financial problem rather than solve it!

No mention of what has happened to McMenemy!
Could he be returning to Sunderland as Director of Football?

Portswood Pete wrote:

Andy P wrote:

Portswood Pete wrote: "We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club More BS. They can now say "oh look, the investment we were bringing in isn't happening because of Lowe and Wilde" when, in reality, there is no investment, why they are trying to curry favour with a few gullible fans is beyond me.

You have to much to say Pete, most of it total rubbish. How can anyone invest in SFC, if shares are not being offered,or in this case, delibrately witheld as a means of stopping investment. Quite simple really,dont you think?

Pots and Kettles Andy. If Sisu, or anyone else wants to buy the club there's nothing really that Lowe or anyone else can do, ask Man Utd shareholders. This talk of investors has been just that, talk, no substance whatsoever Just because you want to make Lowe the bad guy in all this doesn't make it so. The shareholder doesn't have to "offer" shares, there's got to be someone willing to buy the darn things.

What part of my last post do you not understand.

If Lowe and Wilde refuse to sell there shares,HOW DO YOU SUGGEST INVESTORS,INVEST?

If a product is not for sale,how can you possibly buy that product.

Everyone knows why one individual would not sale,because he was and never would be MAN enough just to move on with his life.

Saints Fan wrote:

\"We have also been aware for many months that there has been the prospect of significant financial investment in the club.

You shouldn\'t believe everything you read on internet message boards. Close the door on your way out, Leon.

Sometimes you can believe some things you read, such as the following quote from Wiseman's statement "The club has been through difficult times in recent years, a situation created almost entirely by the loss of premiership revenue and the failure to return immediately to the top division."
As you clearly seem to be a Lowe supporter, you will need no telling that Lowe was chairman in the season we were relegated and also for the first season we were in the Championship, 2 seasons marked by lack of player investment. Being relegated was akin to dying, as a club, but failing to invest in the playing squad, in order to regain our position in the Premier League, immediately, was Lowe knocking the final nail in the SFC coffin.
Now we will see if Lowe knows anything about running a football club. Will he reduce the playing squad by getting rid of the players that are no good or by getting rid of the players that could actually push us towards the playoffs, but are being paid a higher wage than those who are cr*p? We saw in the Premier League that Lowe was very quick to sell our best players, only to replace them with players of lesser quality. The problem is he didn't cotton on to the fact that if you replace Premiership quality players with Championship quality players, then you will, inevitably be relegated, as we were. If he now follows the same track, we will see the better players, who are comfortable at this level, sold and either not replaced, or replaced by players from Div 1, which will set us up for another relegation. If he has learnt from his last spell in charge, he will keep a strong core of the squad, players such as Surman, John, Andrew Davies, Saganowski, Safri and even try to add Richard Wright. This will give a relatively strong spine to the team, around which other players can be brought in, to replace the others that will be released. Clearly we will be running on a vastly reduced squad, but again, if he has learnt anything over the last few months, he will see that NP is very capable at finding hard working and decent loan signings, should they be needed to cover injuries. How long do we need to wait to see what size wage he pays himself, now he is back? How long before he mutters his get out of jail sentence "If he doesn't want to stay here we cannot make him", before selling off the likes of Surman & John (both under contract) to the highest bidder, even though neither will have asked to go? Will the Lowe supporters still be happy with their "master" should SFC have another poor season, whilst he and the other shareholders pocket a dividend on their shares, at the end of the season? Only time will tell, but my hope is that Lowe does have something up his sleeve and will be selling up and p*ssing off asap. Cue responses from Ruperts pr team. I think he is trying to throw us off the scent by using to female posters at the moment.

Jesus_02 wrote:
Pete, I think you have answered you own question. "Why try to curry favour" perhaps there is a grain of truth there after all. Crouch has not made any false claims. The merry-go-round till Rupert makes a profit from the sale of the club. Think about it this way. Crouch has come in purchased shares at 50p if the club is sold a market value 30p a share that represents a large loss. Add this to the money he has spent on the Ted Bates statue and you have the measure of his commitment to saints. RL made around 6m on the day that Saints where floated on the stoke exchange that alone is just under a 3rd of the clubs present value. Lowe has more wealth than Crouch because he has made a good deal from Southampton FC. The club will be sold under RL and Wilde as : a) they have no interest in running saints long term b) Leon Crouch will capitulate for the benefit of the Club c) expect large bonuses to go the way of Wilde and RL when the club changes hands The fact that should not be overlooked is that Keith Wiseman is leaving the club after 21years of service. Says it all really

What do you mean "Crouch has not made any false claims"? Crouch rubbished reports that Saints needed money early from the Walcott deal, a few weeks later Crouch went to Arsenal cap in hand.

Crouch purchased his shares from existing shareholders so the club saw none of his money.

"The club will be sold under RL and Wilde"

Is that such a bad thing? If you want new investment then it will have to be sold.

I want to know what is so wonderful about a chairman that takes the club £12 million into debt like Crouch has done.

Layabout wrote:

SouthwaterSaintMC wrote: OK Lowe you've thrown your weight around and finally removed a hard working bunch of directors. Now lets see you back it up and get some real investment into this club. Support Nigel Pearson - you know he's the right man for the job - and get him some funds to rebuild the squad. Why do I get the feeling that comments like mine will fall on deaf ears. Oh yes, because last time you were in charge you failed to listen to the real football fans and look what mess that got us in to. So you,ve got a second chance make sure you don't louse it up this time. COYR

The directors that Rupert Lowe is replacing may have worked hard, but they were hopelessly out of their depth. The investment that was promised, never materialised. You ask why comments like your will fall on deaf ears, and claim he did not listen to 'real football fans' when he was in charge! I wonder if you were one of the 'tiny minority' who had their chance to attend a meeting with Crouch's board members? I doubt it! The first priority for Rupert Lowe is to sort out the club's financial problems, and stop it leaking money. How many 'real football fans' do you think would have the expertise to advise him on that subject? You can bet your life, their main subject would be, 'reduce ticket prices and reduce cost of replica shirts', which would increase the financial problem rather than solve it!

Had our earstwhile ex-chairman looked at the bigger picture whilst we were in the premiership we would not have these financial problems.

Your right on one thing though - reduction in ticket prices and cost of replica shirts is not the answer and I for one would not endorse that move. I would also encourage existing ST holders to renew because whoever is on the board the team still need our support.

I think your wrong about the first priority though - that should be to back Nigel Pearson and give him support in building next seasons team.

As it was when we were in the premiership the money will flow in if the end product is right and the end product will only be right if there is consistency in management - not chopping and changing because someone does not pander to the chairman's ego.