So another one of Lowe's experiments!Why is it that he thinks he knows better than everyone else? Hasn't that idiot learnt anything yet? And if money is so tight are Lowe and Wilde going to tell us what they are taking out of the club?

The ultra-cheapo option. "Coach" picked more for cost than ability.

Quelle Surprise....

W & L : why dont you go do one ???

Why hasn't Lowe learnt after the appointment of Wigley, Grey and Sir Clive that the unconventional 'European approach' of not having a gaffer DOESN'T WORK.

We are not in a position to be doing this.

We should be consolidating out (weak) position within a very competitive league with a good old fashioned Gaffer (NP).

What contacts does Jan Poortvliet have in England?

What knowledge / experience does Jan Poortvliet have of the Championship?

What chants can the Northam end put into action with the name Jan Poortvliet?!

LOWE HAS GOT HIS FIRST DECISION, THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION, WRONG.

It will be interesting to see the pro Lowe fans amongst us spin this one out!

perfect - L & W have ignored that it takes a respected disciplinarian who knows the English game to settle a Championship Football Team.. instead we want the next up and coming Arsene bloody Wenger...

These couple may be cheap - but are they cheaper than relegation to the first division.

L & W - this is ridiculous. We will start next season with and unfit and unmotivated squad (because you have taken so long to make the announcemenr).. plus we will start next season with our 'Coaches' experimenting with getting youngsters into the first team each week so that you can systematically flog them off.

WELCOME TO L & W's New Puppets!!!

COYR!

Wazza wrote:
Why hasn't Lowe learnt after the appointment of Wigley, Grey and Sir Clive that the unconventional 'European approach' of not having a gaffer DOESN'T WORK. We are not in a position to be doing this. We should be consolidating out (weak) position within a very competitive league with a good old fashioned Gaffer (NP). What contacts does Jan Poortvliet have in England? What knowledge / experience does Jan Poortvliet have of the Championship? What chants can the Northam end put into action with the name Jan Poortvliet?! LOWE HAS GOT HIS FIRST DECISION, THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION, WRONG. It will be interesting to see the pro Lowe fans amongst us spin this one out!

Yep, fantastic start from Roops and co. Straight back into the arrogant "I know best" routine...

I wonder how long Dick Van Dyck will hang about once Lowe starts auctioning off any youngster that he painstakingly brings through to the first team- who starts to show promise ?

Seems OK to me

Pearson never set the world on fire

Like the Bourbons who returned to the French throne in 1815 and their aristocratic companions 'they have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing'

This "approach" sounds great on the official site.

I’ve a feeling that the approach will be very business savvy with no end product.

Still League 1 football was something that we all mentally prepared for before Pearson pulled of a near miracle.

I don’t think that there is any doubt that he will get another championship job. I can almost here the opposition supporters singing “There’s only one Nigel Pearson” and saints fans joining in.

What a surprise. Lowe confessed when he first came to the club he knew nothing about football. His decision making over the years on important football issues has been mainly poor which has ultimately cost up relegation and is the main reason we are here today having to deal with the club on the brink on administration.

The playing staff were not motivated under Burley and we were in serious danger of slipping into the 3 tier. Pearson did a fantastic job winning over the players and fans and everyone saw what a difference he had clearly made and was optimistic for the future season.

Now another change, another gamble, another style for the players to get use to. How long do we give this lot a chance to prove themselves.

Im all for given youth a chance but wasnt it Pearson who gave Adam Llanna his chance?

The anti Lowe movement is already heavy in numbers. Unless the Talking Double Dutch Brothers can make a swift impact, I foresee another civil war breaking out in the terraces against Lowe and Wilde.

The club will never be united with Lowe or Wilde involved and if they do not realise that, they are bigger idiots than even I imagined. Lowe out, Lowe out

yet again another disgraceful decision by Lowe and his cronies (and the most important one)if we couldn't keep Nigel Pearson on a deserved contract as he gave a relegation threatened team some spirit and fight then we have not got much hope for the forthcoming season,perhaps the next step is to bring in the national hockey coach as another experiment

The reason why Lowe keeps trying alternatives to the traditional "Gaffer" approach is because it gives too much power and cult following amongst the players to the said individual, and we all know Lowe hates not to be in control....

Be warned Lowe. Pay peanuts, you get monkeys..

I want to give these guys a chance, it sounds like a great idea that, if given a chance and time may work.


BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT TIME, OR CHANCE!!!!!!

If we don't improve, we're down.

We have no money.

I fail to understand how LOWE wants to put in place a system that he's been trying to do for over ten years and failed!!!!!!!!

That man learns nothing!!!

A three year old child will learn quicker than this man.

Still, best of luck to the dutch fellows, like i said, it does sound like it might work (on football manager may be!)

Nigel Pearson, thanks for hauling us out of the despair for a brief period. You deserve better and I am sure we will regret this.

Thank you for all your hard work last season Nigel! You were superb.

As for people slatting the Boards choice. Give it chance to show us what it can do before getting their backs. They may know something we don't.

Good luck for the future Nigel.

COYR! The building starts today! (where is the retained lists?!)

Right, I was very very angry when Pearson got the job but learned to love him over time. At the moment i am again pretty angry but to be honest what can we do about it? All we can do is get behind the team (not Lowe and Wilde) and pray to god that someone buys us. These muppets may be useless but the second they can sell us they will. If we do get relegated (which I reckon is very probable at this stage) then hopefully he'll walk away again. Anyway i give these new Dutch chumps till Xmas.
The Rupert Rollercoaster continues!

First things first, I did like Pearson and thought he was a decent bloke. But come on, 3 wins out of 14!! Lets face it, that is crap. We were one goal away from relegation and I wonder if there would be as many Pearson fans now if that did happen?
This Jan Porterloo bloke has got a good record and looks like he can do well with no money which is what we need. So give him time and your support and lets see if he averages more than 0.2 points a game like we did under Pearson.

Up The Saints.

I'm speechless. For the first time in many months, I was beginning to think that there was light at the end of the tunnel with Pearson as manager. I agree that financial prudence is necessary BUT the key infrastructure in any business (of which the manager is the most important part) does require investment. This is another example of poor decision making by Lowe through his lack of understanding of the English game. Even the 'Lowe luvvies' will have to agree that this represents another dangerous experiment . I foresee a time when St Marys is populated by a few dutchmen, Michael Wilde, Rupert Lowe and their large police escort!
MICHAEL WILDE - WHAT HAVE YOU DONE !!!!

Don't you all wish I had'nt gone now!

Strat supporting Salisbury!

The words arrogant, egotistical, autocratic and unbelievably foolish spring to mind, quite simply the lessons and mistakes of the past seem not to have affected the man.

I am a great believer in forgiving a mistake if you learn and move on, but when it is repeated over and over it comes down to a question of competence. I will not be purchasing a season ticket for the first time in 10 years on the back of this news and I am sure many other will do the same.

WHAT AN ABSOLOUTE JOKE THERE IS NO TWO WAYS ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOD HELP US

What a bloody gamble this is.....why do this at this time? The team was in free fall when Nigel arrived, a couple of astute loans halted the slide. Why oh why wasn't Pearson allowed to carry on?

John B wrote:
Seems OK to me Pearson never set the world on fire

THOUGHT YOU'D BE HAPPY WITH IT RUPERT

what a disgrace,all the fans could see pearson had special talent.

I never thought Id be doing this after 20 years as a season ticket holder but Ive just cancelled my direct debit.
Any ideas what to do on a Saturday afternoon?

The Rupert Lowe managerial trap door opens once again having only been back a week.

Pearson deserved better.

God help us....

For "continental approach" read "cheap approach"! Well Rupert, let's hope this works out better than your previous attempts at going for the cheap option i.e. Dave Jones, Stuart Gray, Steve Wigley, Paul Sturrock!!! No surprise Rupes that you've gone back to the title "Head Coach" since "manager" gives the impression of being the man in charge and of course we all know that YOU'RE the one in charge old mate. "Head Coach? - MY AR5E!" as Jim Royle would say.

95% of supporters wanted Pearson kept on but what do we know, I've only been watching Saints 40 years. Lowe was playing Hockey most of that time.
What we have learned about the Championship is that it takes hard work, team spirit and fitness to get out of it - something Pearson bought us. He has been sh*t on from the highest of heights!

What people seem to conveniently forget was that we were higher in the league when Nigel took over than when we finished so his achievements need to be considered in context. Nevertheless, I think he did a sterling job after Dodd and Gorman left us in freefall and I'm siorry he did not get the chance to continue.

Thay aside the vision sounds just what we need and if it had come from anyone other than Lowe, people would be very excited about it. This coach sounds great so let's give it all a chance.

Unbelivable.
When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair!
Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS!
The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT?
I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit.
But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment.
You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him!
If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE!
But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager.
How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him?
Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet.
COYR

The championship is not a place for total football. How do you think this type of football will go at burnley on a cold, wet tue night in feb?????

Thanks NP for the effort you put in, you got us out of a dire situation.

Lowe i hope you have plenty of security at the first home game of the season, you are going to need it!!!

I had high hopes for this season with pearson, i thought alot of the players would stay and i thought we had a real chance. Now with these two duch incharge the players will loose faith and will move on, and have a look whos falt it is! I wounder if they actually that everyone hates them!

Can they speak english?

And could somone please tell me whats going on with the players are they staying or going?

Thank you

Saint Ash wrote:
Unbelivable.
When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair!
Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS!
The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT?
I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit.
But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment.
You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him!
If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE!
But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager.
How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him?
Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet.
COYR

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what a disaster- Jan who? for manager and Saits have dreams of PL, what sad day for Southampton!!

Bring on the chuckle brothers!

God help us

COME ON PEOPLE - take your intolerance goggles off and look at facts

1. Pearsons record was terrible. He kept us up but only just ! and it was other games going are way. If Pearson stayed and we lost our first 13 games you would blame the board !!!
2. This Dutch duo have a well proven record
3. Some of you need a reality check on the fact that football is a business now...if you dont like it go watch local games, but professional era means money....no money no team so YOUR actions by not renewing your ST will drive Saints down into League 1 quicker that any managerial appointment

saints forever wrote:
COME ON PEOPLE - take your intolerance goggles off and look at facts

1. Pearsons record was terrible. He kept us up but only just ! and it was other games going are way. If Pearson stayed and we lost our first 13 games you would blame the board !!!
2. This Dutch duo have a well proven record
3. Some of you need a reality check on the fact that football is a business now...if you dont like it go watch local games, but professional era means money....no money no team so YOUR actions by not renewing your ST will drive Saints down into League 1 quicker that any managerial appointment

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Nigel Pearson THANKS

I have not read all the posts... so forgive me if I am repeating a comment made earlier..

I am sure Woote was linked with the job a few years ago, I think it was after Strachan?

He has his own men in, I am sure they are going to be able to point out some bargains/feebeees from the Dutch and Belgium league... The idea of the two teams training together makes complete sense, especially in our situation. Could be exciting, I have to say, I am not too fussed about NP. He got the Team Playing for thier lives in one game, and too be honest any pro shoudl have played out of thier skins in that situation, so I do not think he performed any magic.

Come on Jan The Man!

Saint Ash wrote:
Unbelivable. When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair! Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS! The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT? I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit. But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment. You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him! If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE! But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager. How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him? Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet. COYR

Saint Ash. Your comments sound reasonable and could have been made after the appointment of Wigley, Sturrock or Gray. It's the failure to learn from the club's immediate history that is worrying most people and quite rightly so, given Lowe's track record! In my opinion, the last thing the club needs now is more instability, more experimentation and another manager! Just as an aside, the official site is now banging on about relying on youth to get us promoted but who scored the goal to get Hull into the Prem?

SFC4EVA wrote:
Thank you for all your hard work last season Nigel! You were superb.

As for people slatting the Boards choice. Give it chance to show us what it can do before getting their backs. They may know something we don't.

Good luck for the future Nigel.

COYR! The building starts today! (where is the retained lists?!)

well said, Thanks nigel

I am almost beyond commenting now. The clubs supporters have been split into 2 groups recently. Those who support Lowe and Wilde, and those who don't. Entitlement to opinions is what everything is about, but over the last few weeks, both sides appeared to agree on one thing. Keeping Pearson was a priority. Pearson wasn't flamboyant or flash (with the mountain he was left to climb, he didn't have time to be)but he got the players on the field looking like footballers again. they grafted for him, and got the results that were needed. Three wins isn't a lot, but more importantly, the players were trying again. I can watch a team play its heart out and still lose much more than I can watch players only putting 50-60% into a game (and still lose). The team went to West Brom (AND TOOK THE LEAD!!!!)but I suppose that a draw was a result that anyone would have taken at the kick off. The close season would have been the time to build up what Pearson needed though, and I would imagine that pre-season training would have been a major fitness session. Something that Saints lacked under Burley. I wish Nigel Pearson all the best in his new job. Based on what he showed at So'ton, he won't be out of a job for long. I don't know whether my wife will return her season ticket yet. No doubt she'll tell me when I get back from work this afternoon. I wouldn't blame her though if she cancelled her Direct Debit as well. Now is not the time to try this 'Head Coach' or 'Continental' appraoch. The Championship is a physical league, and I fear that the board should have tried to keep Pearson a bit harder. When it comes to discussing how tight the belt is, I haven't heard any mention of how much Lowe & Wilde have cut their salary by yet. as A PLC, does anyone know how I can find out? I feel sorry for Sanits fans at the moment. I really do hope that this new guy pulls it off for you, but I can't see it.

That`s it for me! I saw my first Saints game in 1946 but I haven`t renewed my ST for the first time in years thanks to three things. The first is the return of Lowe and Wilde to fail yet again; the second, the antics of Dyer and BWP which brought yet more embarrassment to the club and lastly the dismissal of Nigel Pearson.

Enough is at last enough!

Simon Templar wrote:

Saint Ash wrote:
Unbelivable.
When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair!
Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS!
The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT?
I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit.
But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment.
You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him!
If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE!
But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager.
How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him?
Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet.
COYR

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Simon (like that's your real name!), why do you not ever respond when someone comments on one of your posts. I for one would like to know why you do not feel that slagging of people with "saint" of "SFC" and calling them PR plants and then using a name like "Simon Templar" is not hypocritical!

Also what do YOU think about the new Manager? I would like to have seen NP stay but agree with the posts that say at least give these new guys a chance. I remember some people slagging off WGS when he first came to saints after getting Coventry relegated!

All you do is slag people off who do not agree with your POV. Come on Simon, try to offer a reasoned argument without resorting to your usual drivel about PR plants and insulting anyone who opposes your view.

Lets just say I AM a PR plant. Now that's got that one out of the way, let's hear some debate!!

I think all of us know that you do not like RL and why so we do not need more of that.

George wrote:
Like the Bourbons who returned to the French throne in 1815 and their aristocratic companions 'they have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing'

Bourbons are biscuits George. What the hell have biscuits got to do with football?
Got it. This appointment takes the biscuit, right?

Snopper wrote:
That`s it for me! I saw my first Saints game in 1946 but I haven`t renewed my ST for the first time in years thanks to three things. The first is the return of Lowe and Wilde to fail yet again; the second, the antics of Dyer and BWP which brought yet more embarrassment to the club and lastly the dismissal of Nigel Pearson. Enough is at last enough!

Well, at your age the trip from kent was probably exhausting, maybe go see Charlton?

;o)

cheap option again Rupert, well guess what I'm going to do the same, so will it be the Cherries or the Magpies ?

I've already removed the car stickers , Lowe , Wilde just do one will you, if the new guy portaloo doesn't win his first games then the pair of them and their thick skins will get severly tested and Barclay's whilst maybe impressed with cost reduction won't be happy with the gate revenue reduction that goes with it

GOOD LUCK NIGEL , HOPE TO SEE YOU BACK IN FOOTBALL SOON, LOVED YOUR COMMITTED APPROACH AND PASSION, MATCHED BY THE FANS IF NOT BY THE BOARD

That's it, I've had enough. This club no remember represents this city. The only link with this city is the name on the club badge and across the top of the stadium. The way Pearson has been treated by the new board is appauling by the new board. Never really given a chance. I'm so glad I haven't renewed my season ticket which I've had for many years,and I won't be buying a new shirt. I refuse to line the pockets of the Lowe and co. It's alright saying support the team . . . .well it's not a team or club that is representative of this great city! It's a business now more than ever. The best thing that could happen would be to go into administration! I'm sorry to say it but we're doomed and I can't see anything to get positive about

When Nigel Pearson arrived at St Mary's, these pages were filled with posts that were against the appointment, now they are filled with posts claiming that he was the best thing since sliced bread.
It has more laughs than the Goon Show.

Robbie wrote:
I am almost beyond commenting now. The clubs supporters have been split into 2 groups recently. Those who support Lowe and Wilde, and those who don't. Entitlement to opinions is what everything is about, but over the last few weeks, both sides appeared to agree on one thing. Keeping Pearson was a priority. Pearson wasn't flamboyant or flash (with the mountain he was left to climb, he didn't have time to be)but he got the players on the field looking like footballers again. they grafted for him, and got the results that were needed. Three wins isn't a lot, but more importantly, the players were trying again. I can watch a team play its heart out and still lose much more than I can watch players only putting 50-60% into a game (and still lose). The team went to West Brom (AND TOOK THE LEAD!!!!)but I suppose that a draw was a result that anyone would have taken at the kick off. The close season would have been the time to build up what Pearson needed though, and I would imagine that pre-season training would have been a major fitness session. Something that Saints lacked under Burley. I wish Nigel Pearson all the best in his new job. Based on what he showed at So'ton, he won't be out of a job for long. I don't know whether my wife will return her season ticket yet. No doubt she'll tell me when I get back from work this afternoon. I wouldn't blame her though if she cancelled her Direct Debit as well. Now is not the time to try this 'Head Coach' or 'Continental' appraoch. The Championship is a physical league, and I fear that the board should have tried to keep Pearson a bit harder. When it comes to discussing how tight the belt is, I haven't heard any mention of how much Lowe & Wilde have cut their salary by yet. as A PLC, does anyone know how I can find out? I feel sorry for Sanits fans at the moment. I really do hope that this new guy pulls it off for you, but I can't see it.

Only three wins in 14 for Pearson, including a 5 - 0 hammering at Hull. Hey, guess what the response to his appointment would have been if he had been bought in by RL ?????

Oh dear!! Nice to see Lowe is using a system that teams like Ajax have been using 30+yrs! Are we a start up club?? For any rewards it is going to take many years. We'll have a good youth club but i do not want to be wasting £450 a year on kids punching above their weight, without experience our team can not survive in the Championship. Very annoyed by this but who are we ai? I'd rather follow Bournemouth right now.

Rangers FC appointed Paul Le Guen to show the SPL (another physical league) Total Football. He lasted 5 months. He culdn't do it after bringing in a host of players. How are this new dutch pair going to do it with no Money to spend. On hte point of Money (I asked this in another thread) How much of a pay cut have the board taken to ease the current situation. As A PLC, is there a way of finding out? Would be interesting to find out, don't you think? Good Luck Nigel Pearson. If you want the truth, you're better off out of it. BAsed on your ability to motivate the lacklustre mob you took over, you won't be out of work for long.

Looks like I'll have St Mary's to myself come August. And I'm rather looking forward to some moan free footer for a change.
The new set-up comes over as an exciting experiment to me, considering it was small minded conservatism that brough the Club down, rather than Rupert's bolder decisions. How many of those posting above were just as deranged about the thought of Hoddle's mooted return?
Bottom line: if those above are against the new coaching team, it's almost certainly an act of genious.

James wrote:
Oh dear!! Nice to see Lowe is using a system that teams like Ajax have been using 30+yrs! Are we a start up club?? For any rewards it is going to take many years. We'll have a good youth club but i do not want to be wasting £450 a year on kids punching above their weight, without experience our team can not survive in the Championship. Very annoyed by this but who are we ai? I'd rather follow Bournemouth right now.

Bu&&er off then. SFC need dedicated fans, not fools like you.

Oh Dear Oh Dear another "Clive Woodward* Prepare for another LOWE/WILDE OUT campaign when it all goes wrong and it will.Pearson did a great job he deserves better than this.This appointment shows just what crass insenstive
people we have at the top.They should have given Nigel the chance to prove himself I'm ashamed to be associated with SFC while these autocratic idiots are in charge.

Pete wrote:
95% of supporters wanted Pearson kept on but what do we know, I've only been watching Saints 40 years. Lowe was playing Hockey most of that time. What we have learned about the Championship is that it takes hard work, team spirit and fitness to get out of it - something Pearson bought us. He has been sh*t on from the highest of heights!

Whilst i wanted Nigel to stay and agree he has been treated badly. Do you remember the last time Lowe listened to the fans and did not re-appoint Hoddle against his better judgement? Hmm, that put us in a good position didnt it?!
Need to give this a chance.
COYR

Oh and to all the fans not renewing their season tickets. Well done, thats really helping the club you say you love! Prats!

Football is going to the dogs.

By the way Pete - don't go and watch Charlton come to M.Hurlot's for a coffee and almond croissant as normal!

Generally laughable. These guys will probably smoke dope and be so laid back we will be lucky to motivate a steward never mind a professional footballer!

I'm very disappointed with the appointment - more because Nigel Pearson got the side motivated. Even if we weren't very good the team battled and had a never say die attitude.

Lowe and Wilde will soon become the most famous British double comedy act since Morecombe & Wise.

lowe and wilde please leave southampton football club before we are a league one side enough is a enough

What the heck do these so called directors know about football. Now they are willing to risk the futre of the club in an experiment that let's face has been tried before and failed at other clubs.Man utd have a Gaffer so too do Arsenal and Chelsea with all the money they have at their disposal.Wake up Lowe this will fail and you will be finished and let's hope when you go this time you don't come back

saintorsinner wrote:

Saint Ash wrote: Unbelivable. When NP was named as manager, howl\'s of anger and despair! Then, all of a sudden, he\'s the best thing since WGS! The number of post\'s slagging this bloke off BEFORE we\'ve even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT? I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit. But let\'s face it, the \"howl\'s of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment. You don\'t need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him! If we don\'t support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE! But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he\'s our new Manager. How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him? Come on for Christ sake,let\'s not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet. COYR

Saint Ash. Your comments sound reasonable and could have been made after the appointment of Wigley, Sturrock or Gray. It\'s the failure to learn from the club\'s immediate history that is worrying most people and quite rightly so, given Lowe\'s track record! In my opinion, the last thing the club needs now is more instability, more experimentation and another manager! Just as an aside, the official site is now banging on about relying on youth to get us promoted but who scored the goal to get Hull into the Prem?

Not really, Sturrock was the only one there that had Managerial experience, Wrigley & Grey never did, and neither fans or players gave him a chance.And I agree with you that we need stability, after all it's what all good clubs are built on.But we need to support what's been put in place, as fans we have no choice.
As for you last point it was Dean Windlass, but then we've got Stern John, so your point is?

At the end of the day it all boils down to money, not hope. If you have tons of it you go up, if you don't have any, you go down. We haven't got any money.

Thank you Nigel for saving our bacon last season but I am sorry about the kick in the teeth. Whatever you do from now on I wish you great success. I have to say you are better off away from Southampton FC and the bunch of shifters who have been running it for the last twelve years. You are a decent and honourable man and I am sure you will be able to smile in a couple of years time when you are riding the crest of a wave and we are deeper in the proverbial. Once we lost Mr Woodford as our chairman all sense of integrity and decency went from this club. Once we were a friendly family club that players enjoyed playing for people enjoyed supporting. We are no longer either for we have forgotten how to respect people and to treat them fairly. At the moment I do not like our club and I certainly do not like the people who run.

Robbie wrote:
Rangers FC appointed Paul Le Guen to show the SPL (another physical league) Total Football. He lasted 5 months. He culdn't do it after bringing in a host of players. How are this new dutch pair going to do it with no Money to spend. On hte point of Money (I asked this in another thread) How much of a pay cut have the board taken to ease the current situation. As A PLC, is there a way of finding out? Would be interesting to find out, don't you think? Good Luck Nigel Pearson. If you want the truth, you're better off out of it. BAsed on your ability to motivate the lacklustre mob you took over, you won't be out of work for long.

Don't forget that the Boardroom Wage bill went up when Crouch took over! The accounts have told us that!

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Thank you Nigel for saving our bacon last season but I am sorry about the kick in the teeth. Whatever you do from now on I wish you great success. I have to say you are better off away from Southampton FC and the bunch of shifters who have been running it for the last twelve years. You are a decent and honourable man and I am sure you will be able to smile in a couple of years time when you are riding the crest of a wave and we are deeper in the proverbial. Once we lost Mr Woodford as our chairman all sense of integrity and decency went from this club. Once we were a friendly family club that players enjoyed playing for people enjoyed supporting. We are no longer either for we have forgotten how to respect people and to treat them fairly. At the moment I do not like our club and I certainly do not like the people who run.

Amen...

Just when it seems we have some UNITY,Lowe pokes his nose in and takes it all away.Once again LOWE interferes leaving the Club and supporteres in turmoil,this guy will never learn all he is interested in is,his OWN EGO!
Nigel Pearson must be gutted,along with many supporters.

This is a massive, perhaps desperate gamble and probably says most about the current state of SFC. There can be no doubt that SFC are on the edge of bankruptcy and therefore the Bank will in reality be making all the major decisions. Can there be a worse pair to make football decisions – Rupert Lowe and a Bank Manager. The shame is that I think we have pushed away a very good manager, who given time and even limited resources would have proved a major success as I saw improvement in every player under his stewardship. I am sure the vast majority of fans would like to thank Nigel for his efforts and apologise for the way he has been treated – we are used to this bit of course.
Having said that do we have anything to lose by trying something different, probably not, we are not going to attract any decent players in the long term and therefore have to improvise and build up from a position of weakness. The problem is that things will probably have to get worse before they get better and will be reliant upon retaining the services of the younger talented players long term, and of course we all know Ruperts record with managers and players that can be sold for profit. The future of SFC is now in the hands of one man - MICHAEL WILDE DO NOT LET US DOWN AGAIN!

Jan Poortvliet, just tried to find out about his managerial experience on tinternet, could only find reference to coaching jobs of :-
TELSTAR - CAPACITY- 3250
HELMOND - CAPACITY- 4100
DEN BOSCH-CAPACITY- 9000
ROOSENDAAL-CAPACITY-
5000

So he should be used to Saints new season ticket sales.

Also, Nuenen which lost 0-8 when he was head coach.

I wont be renewing my season ticket, and as far as I know only 1 out of 8 of the guys who I go to the ground with are going to renew this season.
Last season paid £400+ for season ticket and had to take several shifts off each of which cost me, total just over £1000, I am not doing it this year, I will go to St Marys when I can, it shouldn't be a problem getting a ticket.
Good luck Saints.

I guess that Nigel Pearson has a good back bone and in his discussions with Rupert Lowe showed a mentallity that Rupert would not be able to override.
It was a known factor that Rupert did not want Nigel appointed in the first place a point I registered on this site.
Rupert now has a pair of lap dogs that he can once again manipulate so I say good luck to him and all the supporters that wish to be dished up with this boards mentallity in running a football club.
I for one will not enter St Mary's whilst Mr Lowe & Mr Wilde are in control.
I guess I will be watching Eastleigh along with my son who has this morning refused to renew his season ticket.

Obviously i'm skeptical of this appointment - I mean a couple of unproven managers... not the best choice.

However, though i am very greatful for the work Pearson did in keeping us up. Like many people i realise that his record wasnt that great and winning games is what really matters. I think that given more time he would have proven to be a great manager, the respect he commanded from the players was brilliant and his training regime worked wonders with an unfit team who had clearly over indulged in the slack Burley regime.
Nevertheless the team underperformed and i think its a great idea to ditch some of the higher earners, because in our division they just arent worth it.

I think all we can do now is get behind this new regime and hope that the training over the summer goes well. Only got a 3 month wait before we see how good they are.

Also, i cant wait to finally see some of our quality youth showing the championship what they can do, they'll be well up for it, putting a lot more effort in than some of the older boys as they've got something to prove.

Wazza wrote:
Why hasn't Lowe learnt after the appointment of Wigley, Grey and Sir Clive that the unconventional 'European approach' of not having a gaffer DOESN'T WORK. We are not in a position to be doing this. We should be consolidating out (weak) position within a very competitive league with a good old fashioned Gaffer (NP). What contacts does Jan Poortvliet have in England? What knowledge / experience does Jan Poortvliet have of the Championship? What chants can the Northam end put into action with the name Jan Poortvliet?! LOWE HAS GOT HIS FIRST DECISION, THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION, WRONG. It will be interesting to see the pro Lowe fans amongst us spin this one out!

Yes i am just about hanging in there as a lowe fan, im not affraid to admit it.L&W are sailing close to the wind with this appointment,but what more do you want with the situation we are in.Thes pages have been filled in the past asking for youngsters to be given a chance, and now they will.Has anyone comprehended that we plucked someone working in Qatar coz no sane person on the football radar actually wanted the job!!

The guys coming in are used to working with young players and are payed on performences for next term.I know L&W make life hard for us all but give it a chance coz its done now!!!

could someone please tell me who the hell this geezer is?

Saint Ash wrote:
Unbelivable. When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair! Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS! The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT? I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit. But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment. You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him! If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE! But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager. How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him? Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet. COYR

Saint Ash, I would love to see this guy be a success but can't agree with you wheN you say You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him!
Re-read the reports and tell me how many of the clubs he has managed, you have heard of before today.
How can you claim that he has managed at "all levels of the game" when the clubs he has managed are of the quality of teams in the Hampshire League or Conference League at best?
Make no bones about it. This is Lowe, a so called businessman, putting all his shareholders chips on one last gamble.
If he had not wanted NP but had brought in a manager from Div 2, at least we would have someone in charge who knows what "professional" football is all about. We now have someone, who despite playing at the highest level, has NEVER proved himself good enough to do the same as a manager, NOT EVEN IN THE COUNTRY OF HIS BIRTH WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAVE HEARD OF HIM, WHICH IN ITSELF IS A BAD OMEN!

The labour party is full of people who are publicly saying that Brown is a great guy doing a good job when we all know the exact opposite is true and so do they. The ones who have stood up and said he is wrong like Frank Field have my respect. In Nazi Germany there were those people who have our respect for standing up to Hitler and refusing to follow him. We have had pacifists in times of war that were people of strong conviction and refused to fight. They deserve our respect. On this list there are people who are saying as Saints’ fans we should blindly toe the line and if we don’t then we are not true fans. That is bunkum. I will not blindly, stupidly, foolishly, gullibly, negligently nor irresponsibly follow the Saints when the people who are running the club are destroying it. I care more about our great club than those who will assist those who are destroying it. If you can’t abide what is happening don’t go.

well here we go again - life is never dull as a saints suppporter is it? just read the comment on sky put out by low(e)- how he can say we are adopting a new continental style type of play is ridiculous - perhaps he was talking about his new head coach and sidekick!i am sure that nigel could have been kept on - saying his wages were more than those two combined may be true but how much did nigel actually save us by keeping us in this division? GOOD LUCK TO NIGEL PEARSON IN THE FUTURE - I AM SURE HE WILL PROVE TO BE A GREAT MANAGER IN THE FUTURE.

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Thank you Nigel for saving our bacon last season but I am sorry about the kick in the teeth. Whatever you do from now on I wish you great success. I have to say you are better off away from Southampton FC and the bunch of shifters who have been running it for the last twelve years. You are a decent and honourable man and I am sure you will be able to smile in a couple of years time when you are riding the crest of a wave and we are deeper in the proverbial. Once we lost Mr Woodford as our chairman all sense of integrity and decency went from this club. Once we were a friendly family club that players enjoyed playing for people enjoyed supporting. We are no longer either for we have forgotten how to respect people and to treat them fairly. At the moment I do not like our club and I certainly do not like the people who run.

Why are you typing in bold text? Nigel Pearson didn't save us last season. 3 wins in 14 games meant we would be relegated unless other results went our way. We were lucky. Remember the hammering at Hull, the home defeat against Burnley (a must win game)? Na you probably cant remember can you, cos you dont know how to turn off bold text, sad. You are also living in the past, get real, this is the 21st century, football like most things has moved on, unlike you.

Jesus_02 wrote:
This "approach" sounds great on the official site. I’ve a feeling that the approach will be very business savvy with no end product. Still League 1 football was something that we all mentally prepared for before Pearson pulled of a near miracle. I don’t think that there is any doubt that he will get another championship job. I can almost here the opposition supporters singing “There’s only one Nigel Pearson” and saints fans joining in.

But aren't we all looking to the Northam singing 'Dick van Dyck's red and white army.
Gotta be done !

Rupert Lowe is consitent on changing manangers so often. Dose any other club have a better record than him now?

This is a almighty gamble! You can not solely play youth no matter how cheap it comes! I really hope it pays off, though I really can not see it. At this moment in time we look like we are looking at ten years plus in this league, and that is not good enough. What was wrong with NP, and please why are the board and especially Turn coat Wilde point to nothing but wages. When it suits they keep info like this to themself, but when they want to justifie themselfs. They put it out for the public, so if things go wrong. They have a ready made excuse to hand.

This board so far is taking every opportunity to blame the previous board for everything, and that is so easy. They are very much to blame for this too. I would say NP lost his job solely for this board to stick two fingers up at the old board, and wipe anything they might be able to claim credit for. This behaivour is so sad!

We may look back in time and see how we let a up and coming manager slip through our hands!

And the winners of Britain's Got Talent is the Lowe & Wilde, double act !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about johan cryuff

All very good putting faith in the youth who are an amazing team, but, The Championship is a very different league to the Pontins Combination League!!!

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NP got the respect of the players - without a "gaffer" we have to get rid of those players who won't play unless scatred of the boss. This was part of George's problem

PLus, I think NP was a good coach as well as a manager

++

It's innovative - if the common denominator to success is money, then how do you differentiate yourself to compete if you don't have much money.

It is high risk however - if it goes wrong, what does plan B look like?

Disgraceful

Dreadful decision - I'm so pleased that I didn't renew my season ticket, and I won't be going to St Mary's again until such time as we adopt the kind of basic route 1 game which will get us out of this league in the right direction.

No doubt we will get more Euro-style fancy football which will have all the Championship hard men laughing their socks off at us while Nigel Pearson joins the list of people set for a glittering post-Saints career.

Good luck Nigel, you deserve better than us.

Martin Orford wrote:
Dreadful decision - I'm so pleased that I didn't renew my season ticket, and I won't be going to St Mary's again until such time as we adopt the kind of basic route 1 game which will get us out of this league in the right direction.

No doubt we will get more Euro-style fancy football which will have all the Championship hard men laughing their socks off at us while Nigel Pearson joins the list of people set for a glittering post-Saints career.

Good luck Nigel, you deserve better than us.

and we deserve better than you as a fan. if youre not renewing just go away and leave this board and Saints to those of us that are real fans not fickle glory hunters like you

Am I being cynical or is the reason for them all training together mean that they dont need such a big area then wild can buy half of it cheap and develop it?

threestands wrote:

Barnacle Bill wrote: Thank you Nigel for saving our bacon last season but I am sorry about the kick in the teeth. Whatever you do from now on I wish you great success. I have to say you are better off away from Southampton FC and the bunch of shifters who have been running it for the last twelve years. You are a decent and honourable man and I am sure you will be able to smile in a couple of years time when you are riding the crest of a wave and we are deeper in the proverbial. Once we lost Mr Woodford as our chairman all sense of integrity and decency went from this club. Once we were a friendly family club that players enjoyed playing for people enjoyed supporting. We are no longer either for we have forgotten how to respect people and to treat them fairly. At the moment I do not like our club and I certainly do not like the people who run.

Why are you typing in bold text? Nigel Pearson didn't save us last season. 3 wins in 14 games meant we would be relegated unless other results went our way. We were lucky. Remember the hammering at Hull, the home defeat against Burnley (a must win game)? Na you probably cant remember can you, cos you dont know how to turn off bold text, sad. You are also living in the past, get real, this is the 21st century, football like most things has moved on, unlike you.

If there is no place for decency and honesty in this great game we all love then I am not going to follow it. Unlike you I am a man of principles and I do not easily throw them aside. I am also certainly not as rude or ill mannered as you obviously are but then I am not paid to say nice things about Rupert Lowe or to defend him and if you say you are not being paid then it only leaves one option and that is you are an easily led fool.

saints forever wrote:

Martin Orford wrote:
Dreadful decision - I\'m so pleased that I didn\'t renew my season ticket, and I won\'t be going to St Mary\'s again until such time as we adopt the kind of basic route 1 game which will get us out of this league in the right direction.

No doubt we will get more Euro-style fancy football which will have all the Championship hard men laughing their socks off at us while Nigel Pearson joins the list of people set for a glittering post-Saints career.

Good luck Nigel, you deserve better than us.

and we deserve better than you as a fan. if youre not renewing just go away and leave this board and Saints to those of us that are real fans not fickle glory hunters like you

Talk about blind faith. If being a fan means putting up with any old nonsense from the board ,no matter what, then you're welcome to Saints. I'm not supporting this regime with my money and neither will many others.

At the end of the day, football is a business, we are consumers and entitled to be treated as such. So if we don't like the product we're entitled to withdraw our business or take it elsewhere.

And as for glory hunting, I'd settle for us being a well-run upper-end-of-Champio

nship club, but even that seems a very long way off.

Great sentiments from barnacle Bill,Pearson to leicester then.........

WTF I have previously been Neutral to the whole situation but this has angered me we needed stability not experiments Lowe and Wilde have lost their minds Pearson needed time he had great potential!
Sorry Nigel and good luck

What an utter disgrace!. Nigel should have been given the same performance-based contract as these two unknown muppets. He was also an advocator of using the youth, together with some of the more championship-savvy older heads - so that argument of L&W doesn't wash with me.
As for trying to adopt a continental style of play in the championship? does this mean we're going to teach our players how to dive and roll around on the floor? don't make me laugh -we're gonna get our soft, inexperienced arses seriously kicked straight in to league 1!

Nigel, if you're reading this, Thank you for saving our bacon last season.Good luck (..but not with another championship team!)

The true fan, good fan, supporter always adds spice to this argument - but let's face facts:

1. We now pay for the dross that is served up.
2. Giving "them" more money to waste is prolonging the agony.
3. Make "them" earn our money
4. Staying away may not do the club any good financially - but it makes me feel good to know I have saved the best part of £100 if I don't come to SMS.

I am (like many people) confess to be a fan (abbreviation for fanatic) I also profess to being a supporter (I have financially supported the club years before the Premiership money was available). Not going to SMS hurts - but I do not wish to give my money to Lowe & Co to waste. My money will go on away games where the home club get my money!

I used to be proud to say I followed SAints - now I'm biter and twisted I just don't like talking about it. Once upon a time it used to be all about football - now it's all about money and power at the top.

Anyone for Cricket?

I note that he is bringing an assistant by the name of Mark Wotte.
No relation to U Wotte, U Wotte, U Wotte U Wotte U Wotte, whose name is regularly chanted at many football grounds.

Lowe speak was always double dutch so this appointment comes as no surprise!

I think we have been here before with Lowe and Sir Clive!!

Why wont this arrogant stupid man ever learn? When this latest big plan goes wrong is he going to do us all a favour and go! Probably not. We will be fed some crap about it being forced on him by finance etc.

ANY POTENTIAL BILLIONAIRES OUT THERE? IF SO PLEASE COME AND BUY US OUT OF THIS NIGHTMARE OR WE WILL NEVER BE FREE OF THESE DRIVELING CLOWNS!!

It's official. Saints are going down the pan as Lowe appoints a v.Por Toilet

Lowe's PR machine has hijacked this site again. The posts aren't getting through and they have no sense of humour which is surprising coming from such clowns!

Can you lot all be as short-sighted as you seem? We have massive debts and no investors queuing up to, err, invest! Nigel Pearson did just enough to keep a flabby, ageing squad in the league, but we know that most of these players MUST now be sold (to the knackers yard if necessary) as they are costing us too much, and they couldn't give a monkeys.

It is absolutely the right decision to build a team around youth (rather than flog every decent prospect to pay the inflated wage bills of the so-called senior pros), and it is absolutely the right decision to bring in men who actually know how to harness young talent.

For once, I think Roops has done the right thing. Give the Dutchmen (and the Reserve and Academy bosses who I'm delighted to see are staying) a chance. How great would it be to see a young, home-grown Saints team climb that league?

COYR

Andy wrote:
Can you lot all be as short-sighted as you seem? We have massive debts and no investors queuing up to, err, invest! Nigel Pearson did just enough to keep a flabby, ageing squad in the league, but we know that most of these players MUST now be sold (to the knackers yard if necessary) as they are costing us too much, and they couldn't give a monkeys. It is absolutely the right decision to build a team around youth (rather than flog every decent prospect to pay the inflated wage bills of the so-called senior pros), and it is absolutely the right decision to bring in men who actually know how to harness young talent. For once, I think Roops has done the right thing. Give the Dutchmen (and the Reserve and Academy bosses who I'm delighted to see are staying) a chance. How great would it be to see a young, home-grown Saints team climb that league? COYR

Get those rose tinted glasses off.

Hope you do not buy a shirt with a young talent name on the back, as if he is any good, he'll be playing in the prem, while we don't!

Well this story really pressed some buttons didn't it?
Let's look at the facts:
1. Pearson only won 3 games out of 14. The league table doesn't lie. Look where we were when he started
2. Yes he got the boys playing with more spirit, but so did they when they had Gorman and Doddsy in charge and look where that got us!
3. We are broke and in a game where money is everything
4. Because we are broke we have to rely on the youngsters coming through. The new cosching structure therefore makes perfect sense.
5. Because we are broke something has to change. The 'gaffer' model has done nothing for us since 2003 has it?
6. Rupert is not a man of the people and never will be. He made lots of mistakes and alienated the fans. He will never be popular but he is here and we have to accept it and either get behind the team or stop supporting the club. The problems we had with the Northam End wanting him hung from the Itchen Bridge every time we lose do nothing for team morale. We need songs to support the team not slag off the board evry time things go downhill.
7. The new guys seem to have decent CVs and the head guy is said to be good with clubs who have no money. That's us! They should be given a chance to see what they can do.

So, let's stop believing in take-over fairies and get on with the task of rebuilding the club - even if it takes 10 years, which it may well.

Well you have done it again Rupert, not content with bleeding the club dry you rub salt in the wounds of every decent Saints Supporter with again another cost cutting decision. name one English club that has this successful setup answer not one so why does he think Soton will be different. As a supporter for over 40- years yes 40 years rupert this has to be one of the worst decisions ever. Hope for your sake it works and you make some money one thing is for sure none of it will be mine !

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Thank you Nigel for saving our bacon last season but I am sorry about the kick in the teeth. Whatever you do from now on I wish you great success. I have to say you are better off away from Southampton FC and the bunch of shifters who have been running it for the last twelve years. You are a decent and honourable man and I am sure you will be able to smile in a couple of years time when you are riding the crest of a wave and we are deeper in the proverbial. Once we lost Mr Woodford as our chairman all sense of integrity and decency went from this club. Once we were a friendly family club that players enjoyed playing for people enjoyed supporting. We are no longer either for we have forgotten how to respect people and to treat them fairly. At the moment I do not like our club and I certainly do not like the people who run.

Well said Bill. Could not have put it better myself. The only losers here are the fans. As always.

People, fellow Saints fans. All i can see on this board is bickering like kids. People accusing eachother of not being loyal fans etc. Even someone telling me to b off. We wouldn't be writing so pationatly if we all did not care. There is enough divide around the club. We're all entitled to our opinions and i'm sure a majority of us despite what we say will still be shouting from the stand willing a win, no matter who plays.

Our support for Saints will never go away. So lets unite and hope our support helps whatever team comes out to play. Unless we have any money we can do very little on how the club is run. Let's make the most of what we have got and let time tell.

Come on Saints.

hmmm, not sure wrote:
---- NP got the respect of the players - without a "gaffer" we have to get rid of those players who won't play unless scatred of the boss. This was part of George's problem PLus, I think NP was a good coach as well as a manager ++ It's innovative - if the common denominator to success is money, then how do you differentiate yourself to compete if you don't have much money. It is high risk however - if it goes wrong, what does plan B look like?

Plan B?

Well if we're talking about Rupert Lowe:

Plan B = Blame the previous board
Plan C = Blame the fans

err . . . any more plans?

well good one here lowe what a funny man you are you bring in a manager with a name poortvliet well for starters i think it says it in his name (POOR) signing!! ive looked up his history and his been with clubs ive never even heard of in my life!!none that are good sides, well your on the way to proving me right i but a bet down for us to have 3 managers this season so 2 to go!! where are all you lowe fcking lovers now hey!! all you lowe fans saying welcome back give lowe a chance etc etc here prove us all wrong!! yeah he really has done that hasn't he, lowe is scum and deserves to burn in hell as far as us true southampton fans are concerned so why dont you lowe fans pi#s off with him!! We need to stand together and bring pride back to this club without you lowe scummers!!

L&W said they needed our support, then they go and sack NP for no reason at all! An idiotic, disgraceful, vengeful, huge step BACKWARDS-when will they ever learn?
I phoned the League Managers' Association, who weren't even aware of this and are powerless even to protest, never mind stop L&W or bar them from involvement in football.
2 Dutchmen who've never worked in England. Previous clubs managed? No bigger than the Conference at best! This is another dangerous gamble;when will L&W realise that SFC is NOT a toy they can mess with at will? How much are they paying themselves from these oh-so-limited funds they talk about? Where is the Retained list? This is embarrassing, a shambles.
Thank you and good luck Nigel. You deserved a lot better and you'll always have friends at SFC (outside the boardroom that is)

Thank you Nigel Pearson for doing a good job. What a way to be treated, it makes me sick. Another good ENGLISH coach being dumped for a foreigner.

Lowe and wilde are sending this club into the darkest days in its history.

give the new geezer a chance, dont start slating him until he's given a few games to show his worth

saints in dorset wrote:
cheap option again Rupert, well guess what I'm going to do the same, so will it be the Cherries or the Magpies ? I've already removed the car stickers , Lowe , Wilde just do one will you, if the new guy portaloo doesn't win his first games then the pair of them and their thick skins will get severly tested and Barclay's whilst maybe impressed with cost reduction won't be happy with the gate revenue reduction that goes with it GOOD LUCK NIGEL , HOPE TO SEE YOU BACK IN FOOTBALL SOON, LOVED YOUR COMMITTED APPROACH AND PASSION, MATCHED BY THE FANS IF NOT BY THE BOARD

Oh No. Don't tell us that you have already removed the car stickers.
Well that's it then. We are doomed.
How can we compete without your car stickers?

Layabout wrote:

George wrote: Like the Bourbons who returned to the French throne in 1815 and their aristocratic companions \'they have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing\'

Bourbons are biscuits George. What the hell have biscuits got to do with football? Got it. This appointment takes the biscuit, right?

Have you not heard of these players then?
.........Crumbs!

Garry Baldey
Rich Teey
and the Welsh wizard Dai Jestive

the Truth Master wrote:

Layabout wrote:

George wrote: Like the Bourbons who returned to the French throne in 1815 and their aristocratic companions \'they have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing\'

Bourbons are biscuits George. What the hell have biscuits got to do with football? Got it. This appointment takes the biscuit, right?

Have you not heard of these players then? .........Crumbs! Garry Baldey Rich Teey and the Welsh wizard Dai Jestive

Yes, I have heard of these players, but they were basketball players not footballers.
They were all good at 'dunking'.

I can't even have 3 quiet weeks on holiday without Lowe spoiling it with his latest crackpot decision: the BOGOF managers.
Yes, NP had a lousy record at SMS but he was inheriting a demoralised club in total freefall and scraped us through. He deserved to be given a chance, until Christmas say. I watched Saints play in the old 3rd division (so, yes, I am a real fan) and will do so again after Lowe gets us relegated and leaves again, but until Lowe leaves the club won't get a penny off me...

What chance did NP really have? He was Lawrie Mac's and Crouch's appointment - would Rupert really want a man he hadn't selected in charge?
I think Nigel should have been kept on - he has all the qualities of a great manager and will do well somewhere - but am also quite excited about these two. Rupert now has no-one to blame but himself if this Double Dutch appointment goes pear shaped.

Lowe was reported as saying on the saints web site that they had to make this new appointment for financial reasons.This being that he had not been here for 2 years and had to sort out the financial mess that the club had been left in,no sour grapes there then.
He then brings in as his sidekick micheal wilde,the very same man that brought in the "executives" that put us in this situation.Bodes well for the future then!! as for NP i think barnacle bill summed it up best.Good luck for the future nigel.

hey give the bloke a chance. Pearson was never going to be the answer.he just got lucky on the final day. lets see what the dutch can do....who knows it could be TOTAL FOOTBALL

Once again Rupert Lowe flies in the face of what the majority of Saints fans wanted. Nigel Pearson saved Saints from a fate of languishing in Div.1. And his reward is to be told he's no longer needed. I suspected that Rupert Lowe was only in SFC for the money he could make out of it. Now I'm convinced!

Who’d ever have thought that one of the great names of Dutch Total Football of the 70’s would be here as manager (sorry, head coach).

Fresh from his success at steering Helmond Sports to a heady 7th in the Dutch second tier, he is ready to step up to the plate. Helmond Sports ground capacity is 4,100 which makes it about the same as Eastleigh, and Portvliet was comfortable with everything until he was told that Staplewood was not in fact our home ground, but we did have another one tucked away near the gasworks in central Southampton.

Players were shocked to hear of the new rigorous pre season routine, which will involve rolling large gouda cheeses down Lances Hill and then carrying them back up to the top. Assistant coach Mark Wotte, whose last job was so important it is not even mentioned in Wikipedia, said that he had learned a lot from his time coaching in Qatar, and that BWP and Nathan Dyer had better start counting their fingers if they get up to their handbag antics again this season

Welcome to reality, didn't take long for the Lowe/Wilde partnership to make their mark and alienate a few more fans.

Starting with terminating talks with the takeover consortium, sacking the popular manager and appointing two 'who the f*ck are they' as managers in a radical, sorry, revolutionary new continental approach.


Where have we heard the 'revolutionary new approach' before, was it Clive Woodward or Simon (what's name?) and several other incentives which have all failed miserably!

Nice touch by SFC accompanying the change with a page of spin on the website, buried deep in para 4 is the crux of the decision making process "The combined salary of the pair is still less than that of Pearson"

Para 6 pays tribute to Pearsons efforts: "We are extremely grateful for Nigel's contribution. He came to the club at a time of crisis and through his hard work and commitment we were narrowly able to avoid relegation on the last day and we wish him well. (but f*ck off 'cause you cost too much!)

Para 3 of the spin page says: "The aim is to provide a seamless link between the successful Orchard Homes Academy and the first-team" , however they failed to write the rest of the sentence "then on to other clubs for a return on our investment, allowing the PLC to pay a dividend on shares and to award Mr Lowe a huge salary rise as befits a successful businessman!"

Happy Days are here again.

Rocker268 wrote:
WTF I have previously been Neutral to the whole situation but this has angered me we needed stability not experiments Lowe and Wilde have lost their minds Pearson needed time he had great potential! Sorry Nigel and good luck

I agree. There is so much upheaval at the moment- and we still don't know which players are coming or going. Time is running out.

I believe that Nigel deserved a contract. Or at least first refusal. Who knows what went on behind closed doors? People say that the results he got weren't that impressive on paper but that's because he was brought in so flippin late.

All we can do is wish him well for the future from the fans and support the team. One day, when this is all done with and Lowe has gone it would be nice to think that we all hung in there and stayed loyal til we came out the other side.

Disgusted. I've just sent this to the club - it'll never find it's way to lowe and wilde but I hope someone reads it.

''Dear Saints,

My name is Tom ######## and I am a life long supporter who has finally lost complete interest in this club. The politics which ensue a board change are inevitable - but I strongly feel that in this case, these politics have led to the overlooking of a potentially fantastic manager - and certainly a manager who could cut it and provide the correct football for the Championship. In short I'm utterly disappointed that the club I put my name to has treated somebody who's effort and passion was so plain to see to both the supporters and, more importantly, the players. Personally, I won't be purchasing a season ticket this year. I sincerely hope that the decision Lowe and Wilde have made is inspired and successful, but I won't be putting my money towards a club which is being led in a way that I absolutely detest.

Completed Disgusted

Tom #########''

I've read a few comments along the lines of ''he only won 3 games, get behind the board'' but I personally feel that a chance should have been given, and that this result was born from political reasons rather than analysis of his managerial skills - something which I find utterly disgusting and I fear will be costly. I wish the managers every success but untill the club acts in a way in which I feel proud of, my money's staying in my pocket

tomsaint222 wrote:
Disgusted. I\'ve just sent this to the club - it\'ll never find it\'s way to lowe and wilde but I hope someone reads it.

\'\'Dear Saints,

My name is Tom ######## and I am a life long supporter who has finally lost complete interest in this club. The politics which ensue a board change are inevitable - but I strongly feel that in this case, these politics have led to the overlooking of a potentially fantastic manager - and certainly a manager who could cut it and provide the correct football for the Championship. In short I\'m utterly disappointed that the club I put my name to has treated somebody who\'s effort and passion was so plain to see to both the supporters and, more importantly, the players. Personally, I won\'t be purchasing a season ticket this year. I sincerely hope that the decision Lowe and Wilde have made is inspired and successful, but I won\'t be putting my money towards a club which is being led in a way that I absolutely detest.

Completed Disgusted

Tom #########\'\'

I\'ve read a few comments along the lines of \'\'he only won 3 games, get behind the board\'\' but I personally feel that a chance should have been given, and that this result was born from political reasons rather than analysis of his managerial skills - something which I find utterly disgusting and I fear will be costly. I wish the managers every success but untill the club acts in a way in which I feel proud of, my money\'s staying in my pocket

Well said Tom, its a very painful time to be a Saints fan but everyone I speak to around me, my family and my friends, are as angry and saddened as you. Strange it is only ever on these boards Lowe has any fans :o|

After 28 years I'm finished with the club, in a cold and calculated manner, it has taken everything from us in recent years and given nothing back. I hope to go back one day with my children (who, being under 10 see nothing inspiring when I have taken them), but it will have to be a very different set up for me and my family to feel like fans of something to be proud of again.

Shame on you Lowe, you are a callous, manipulating, self serving tyrant and you do not know the anguish you have caused the people of this city.

Now you whingeing lot,do you want Hoddle back.
Fed up with whingeing saints supporters before the first ball is kicked.Get behind Lowe and Wilde,and Jan Poortvliet and his Dutch crew.
Saints for ever
David Crook

David Crook wrote:
Now you whingeing lot,do you want Hoddle back.
Fed up with whingeing saints supporters before the first ball is kicked.Get behind Lowe and Wilde,and Jan Poortvliet and his Dutch crew.
Saints for ever
David Crook

No Crookie, no one wants Hoddle back, why would we? We don't want Lowe here either, his PR bods or any fans that back him - he has ruined a once great club - and people like you aren't helping change this fact, so we would be better of if you went elsehwere as well.

Tate Durden wrote:

David Crook wrote: Now you whingeing lot,do you want Hoddle back. Fed up with whingeing saints supporters before the first ball is kicked.Get behind Lowe and Wilde,and Jan Poortvliet and his Dutch crew. Saints for ever David Crook

No Crookie, no one wants Hoddle back, why would we? We don\'t want Lowe here either, his PR bods or any fans that back him - he has ruined a once great club - and people like you aren\'t helping change this fact, so we would be better of if you went elsehwere as well.

Stop whingeing,you have just proved my point.
This is the situation we are in,except it or go.
Use your head
David Crook

well well well................
..where to start?
firstly the fact that there seems to be a clear divide amongst supporters shows that no one really knows what to believe and whats right and whats wrong, and only history will tell us if the things that are happening at our club are for the best or not.as boring as it sounds i am not for or against lowe/wilde and i try to keep an open mind on it all but i can see and understand everyones point of view (which is why football is such a great sport).

i do feel for pearson and i would of liked to have seen him given the chance to see what he could do given full backing and a bit of time, but i cant help but feel excited about this latest appointment! i agree that to get out of the championship you need experience and you need to be tough and strong, and pearson certainly knew that, and was that, but i'm sure the dutchmen know that and for all we know, they may be tough as leather too!!!
however i do not agree that the continental style wont work at southampton or in english football. how can the whole club playing the same style from the first team down to the youth team be a bad thing? how can the youngsters training with the pros have anything but a positive influence?? and the total football style when played correctly is one of the most effective and pleasing ways to play the game. i think southampton have a great chance of creating something very special and revolutionary in this country, especially if sepp blatter gets his 6+5 rule pushed through, this will gave saints a huge advantage starting early with the young british talent. if this works out and we see saints playing total football with good young british talent then there can only be good times ahead. i'm right behind the four coaches and i've gotta say it, rupert lowe has shown alot of bottle in doing this because he's got a lot to gain, but so much more to lose, it may not seem like it now but a few years from now we may look back and say that he made a fantastic decision that changed our club for the better, i just really hope my optimisum isnt mis-placed! come on you saints, the futures bright, its red and white. (not orange becuase that breaks copyright)

Ok so the new regime may turn out to be fantastic and naturally that's what we all want, however Pearson deserved his chance. Not because he kept us up but due to the fact it was noticable the stripes were starting to be worn with pride and passion once again.
The business ethics displayed here are disgusting and would not be tolorated in any other line of business.
The current boaed may lead us to success but I cant help but feel they will never gain the respect of the fans no matter how great the achievement.
Like many in the area I work with and mix with 'skates' oh how they love this latest display of arrogance from good old Rupert.
Should we look forward to Sir Clive coming back and joining in a share of the pickings just to complete our shame

Simon Templar wrote:

tomsaint222 wrote: Disgusted. I\\\'ve just sent this to the club - it\\\'ll never find it\\\'s way to lowe and wilde but I hope someone reads it. \\\'\\\'Dear Saints, My name is Tom ######## and I am a life long supporter who has finally lost complete interest in this club. The politics which ensue a board change are inevitable - but I strongly feel that in this case, these politics have led to the overlooking of a potentially fantastic manager - and certainly a manager who could cut it and provide the correct football for the Championship. In short I\\\'m utterly disappointed that the club I put my name to has treated somebody who\\\'s effort and passion was so plain to see to both the supporters and, more importantly, the players. Personally, I won\\\'t be purchasing a season ticket this year. I sincerely hope that the decision Lowe and Wilde have made is inspired and successful, but I won\\\'t be putting my money towards a club which is being led in a way that I absolutely detest. Completed Disgusted Tom #########\\\'\\\' I\\\'ve read a few comments along the lines of \\\'\\\'he only won 3 games, get behind the board\\\'\\\' but I personally feel that a chance should have been given, and that this result was born from political reasons rather than analysis of his managerial skills - something which I find utterly disgusting and I fear will be costly. I wish the managers every success but untill the club acts in a way in which I feel proud of, my money\\\'s staying in my pocket

Well said Tom, its a very painful time to be a Saints fan but everyone I speak to around me, my family and my friends, are as angry and saddened as you. Strange it is only ever on these boards Lowe has any fans :o| After 28 years I\'m finished with the club, in a cold and calculated manner, it has taken everything from us in recent years and given nothing back. I hope to go back one day with my children (who, being under 10 see nothing inspiring when I have taken them), but it will have to be a very different set up for me and my family to feel like fans of something to be proud of again. Shame on you Lowe, you are a callous, manipulating, self serving tyrant and you do not know the anguish you have caused the people of this city.

Well said Tom and Simon. It's the last straw for me and I will not be renewing my two season tickets. Some people seem to think that the Status Quo is all important and are quite happy to be mugged by Rupert Lowe and his indecisive henchman. Wilde in my opinion, should take most of the blame as Lowe is clinically incapable of seeing that he ever does anything wrong and should not have been elevated back into this position. If the solution is Lowe then what the hell was the problem?? Anyway - the meek can inherit the Earth, Rupert Lowe and St Marys.

don tell me about it!! i live and work in gosport so i know all about mixing with the portsmouth lot and i get sooo much stick its unreal. and as for the fa cup win, its been unbearable!! the chuffin portsmouth news wnat harry redknapp knighted!!!! thats the stupid poop i've had to endure the last 2 weeks!!! it makes me sick!!! most of my family are pompey fans too(but i saw sense obviously and chose the saints), but there a little bit easier on me thankfully, otherwise i'd dis-own them!!

Simon Templar wrote:

tomsaint222 wrote: Disgusted. I\'ve just sent this to the club - it\'ll never find it\'s way to lowe and wilde but I hope someone reads it. \'\'Dear Saints, My name is Tom ######## and I am a life long supporter who has finally lost complete interest in this club. The politics which ensue a board change are inevitable - but I strongly feel that in this case, these politics have led to the overlooking of a potentially fantastic manager - and certainly a manager who could cut it and provide the correct football for the Championship. In short I\'m utterly disappointed that the club I put my name to has treated somebody who\'s effort and passion was so plain to see to both the supporters and, more importantly, the players. Personally, I won\'t be purchasing a season ticket this year. I sincerely hope that the decision Lowe and Wilde have made is inspired and successful, but I won\'t be putting my money towards a club which is being led in a way that I absolutely detest. Completed Disgusted Tom #########\'\' I\'ve read a few comments along the lines of \'\'he only won 3 games, get behind the board\'\' but I personally feel that a chance should have been given, and that this result was born from political reasons rather than analysis of his managerial skills - something which I find utterly disgusting and I fear will be costly. I wish the managers every success but untill the club acts in a way in which I feel proud of, my money\'s staying in my pocket

Well said Tom, its a very painful time to be a Saints fan but everyone I speak to around me, my family and my friends, are as angry and saddened as you. Strange it is only ever on these boards Lowe has any fans :o| After 28 years I'm finished with the club, in a cold and calculated manner, it has taken everything from us in recent years and given nothing back. I hope to go back one day with my children (who, being under 10 see nothing inspiring when I have taken them), but it will have to be a very different set up for me and my family to feel like fans of something to be proud of again. Shame on you Lowe, you are a callous, manipulating, self serving tyrant and you do not know the anguish you have caused the people of this city.

Feck me what sort of fans are you, we are losing 40K a day. I am not a Lowe fan just Saints, NP was one lucky chappy at the end of the season. I will get behind them even more now. Lets show a bit of solidarity for Christ`s sake. If we get to a cup final ever again don`t bother to buy a ticket let a proper fan have it.
Football ias the name of the game not kick arse, we have some great talent in the wings.

So a lad from a Pompey family has had a tough time being a Saints supporter. I guess that you opted for the stripes when Pompey were going through the Gregory years, and instead of opting for a Man U shirt, like lots of kids, opted for the local Premier League side.
I am glad that your family have been easy on you recently, and you should be grateful that they did not disown you.
I advise you, do not consider disowning them, because it is always comforting to be associated with winners.

Saint Ash wrote:
Unbelivable. When NP was named as manager, howl's of anger and despair! Then, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since WGS! The number of post's slagging this bloke off BEFORE we've even heard a peep out of him, WHAT CHANCE HAS HE GOT? I would of been happy for NP to carry on from last season, because there was a definate improvement in the team attitude and spirit. But let's face it, the "howl's of anger are mainly down to this being a Wupert appoinment. You don't need to be that bright up stairs to realise that with this blokes experience in Dutch football,from playing International football and managing across all levels of the game, he must have something about him! If we don't support him as fans, what chance does he have? NONE! But if we at least give him a chance to speak, give us his vision for OUR future, tell us what his plans are for the Accademy players, what players he can bring in from Holland, we must surely owe him that as he's our new Manager. How can we be so negative when we know jack sh1t about him? Come on for Christ sake,let's not go jumping of the Itchen bridge just yet. COYR

Please post more. I'm beginning to agree with the post from Swansea. Some of you on this post have become very poisoned.

NP may have been on a lot of wages. He may have wanted too much for transfers. I for one like the thought of this "continental" approach. If you're good enough you're old enough, a mindset none of our managers have had for as long as I can remember. Maybe if youngsters are getting a chance they might not want to leave. Too many players with potential have rotted in our reserves. A reserves and under 18 side that would probably both outplay the first team.

the totton scrutineer wrote:
Oh Dear Oh Dear another \"Clive Woodward* Prepare for another LOWE/WILDE OUT campaign when it all goes wrong and it will.Pearson did a great job he deserves better than this.This appointment shows just what crass insenstive people we have at the top.They should have given Nigel the chance to prove himself I\'m ashamed to be associated with SFC while these autocratic idiots are in charge.

Sir Clive gave us some of the best facilities in the country. Not his fault HR is a control freak. Had we not had Sir Clive do we think HR would have developed this essential facility? I would welcome Sir Clive back to further develope our sports science. A field he is a world leader in!!!!!

John B wrote:
Seems OK to me Pearson never set the world on fire

We've been complaining about youth not getting a chance for years. I am a big NP fan but this is a good decision in our current situation.

One comment I'd like to make is maybe training the youth with the seniors will benefit the seniors not the other way around.

Good luck NP I think it's just a shame you couldn't be the man to lead on this new style of developement.

the totton scrutineer wrote:
Oh Dear Oh Dear another \\\"Clive Woodward* Prepare for another LOWE/WILDE OUT campaign when it all goes wrong and it will.Pearson did a great job he deserves better than this.This appointment shows just what crass insenstive people we have at the top.They should have given Nigel the chance to prove himself I\\\'m ashamed to be associated with SFC while these autocratic idiots are in charge.

Sir Clive gave us some of the best facilities in the country. Not his fault HR is a control freak. Had we not had Sir Clive do we think HR would have developed this essential facility? I would welcome Sir Clive back to further develope our sports science. A field he is a world leader in!!!!!

thanks for your input true blue, i'll take it under advisment!! and the reason i'm a saints fan isnt because saints were above pompey, i didnt know that as a kid, all i know is my grandad (who was a pompey fan) was working at the dell doing some maintenance(which it often needed)and he got a signed photo of kevin keegan when he joined saints and gave it to me as a boy, and thats how it started!! i was born in portsmouth too, doesnt that just make you sick?i just tell everyone i was born in southampton to avoid all the questions that follow!

oh and true blue, thanks for thinking i'm younger than i am,i mean when portsmouth were in the gregory years i think i was at college or something, and i was but a few months old when keegan left saints, and i started supporting them when it was still called division 1, so a little credit please, thats all i ask!!!

I've just been reading all this drivel about not renewing season tickets and all the rest. If you are proper fans, get behind your team and stop sniping. Rupert is back in charge - deal with it. Personally I am sorry to see Pearson go, he just about saved us from the fiasco that Crouch and Burley created and I thought he deserved a chance. But I am excited by the new plans. We have seen a lot of good young lads disappear for peanuts in the last year or two - eg Cranie, Blackstock, Best, Mills, to be replaced by donkeys like Powell, Euell, BWP, Idiakez, Thomas etc etc on huge wages and look where it got us. Anything above twentieth next season will be progress. Two of the teams that most impressed me, and both deserved at least a point against us, were Blackpool & Scunthorpe, who both had teams full of busy, eager young lads desperate to take their chance. It's hard to believe that their acadamies were stuffed full of more talent than ours. I think the whole idea is great and I hope it works out. If, in two years time our team of brilliant young players is pushing for the Premiership, will any of these guys forgive Lowe? I doubt it. I seems most them would be happier to see us relegated just to say I told you so.
Incidentally, two other thoughts I had - firstly, all the serious lobbying against Lowe started when Mandaric was at Pompey & Redknapp at Saints - eg the duck-shooting and all the rest, and secondly, I get the feeling that Pompey's cup win was a bit hollow. I know lots of fans, living over here on the dark side, and none of them seem to have enjoyed their success a tenth as much as we did our cup final. It's like Chelsea - letting a sugar-daddy buy you success with a bunch of mercenaries is nowhere near as satisfying as building your own squad. It meant more to everyone seeing Claus & Bridgey & Matt Oakley & Beattie out there than a bunch of hired guns who'll be gone in a year or two. So stuff the boardroom & get behind the team!

David Brown wrote:
I guess that Nigel Pearson has a good back bone and in his discussions with Rupert Lowe showed a mentallity that Rupert would not be able to override. It was a known factor that Rupert did not want Nigel appointed in the first place a point I registered on this site. Rupert now has a pair of lap dogs that he can once again manipulate so I say good luck to him and all the supporters that wish to be dished up with this boards mentallity in running a football club. I for one will not enter St Mary's whilst Mr Lowe & Mr Wilde are in control. I guess I will be watching Eastleigh along with my son who has this morning refused to renew his season ticket.

Lots of people didn't want Pearson to be appointed to beguin with. If Lowe didn't want him to stay then contract negotiations wouldn't have started in the first place so the only reason Pearson has gone is because neither side could agree terms.

so we say that person done a good job yet that mr l (ant going to say his name ) says no only one thing to do hit him where it hurts lets do the talking I say lets not turn up and when we go bust the people that care about this club buy it and get rid of of him for good

I am thinking that if kids football team team I run stay unbeaten in 08/09 i get the saints job
Ray Birds red and white army sounds good to me

saints forever wrote:
COME ON PEOPLE - take your intolerance goggles off and look at facts 1. Pearsons record was terrible. He kept us up but only just ! and it was other games going are way. If Pearson stayed and we lost our first 13 games you would blame the board !!! 2. This Dutch duo have a well proven record 3. Some of you need a reality check on the fact that football is a business now...if you dont like it go watch local games, but professional era means money....no money no team so YOUR actions by not renewing your ST will drive Saints down into League 1 quicker that any managerial appointment

Oh come on, please. Other results didn't go for us, they went against us more often than not. Pearson instilled some self belief and discipline to GB's useless squad that Wilde let him invest heavily in. We beat Leicester under NP's time at the club which probably kept us up. How can you seriously judge a manager on 14 games using someone elses squad? Burley used to use injuries as an excuse for losing. Pearson went out and got 3 of the best loan signings we have seen in a long time and didn't dwell on losing Andrew Davies for the season. Judge him on that if you have to. You sound like Lowe himself, give a guy a couple of months and toss him aside. Lowe has wasted more money paying off managers than is reasonable. He and Wilde blame the financial state of the Club on Leon Crouch, yet Wilde made 10,000,000 availalbe to Burley for new players. I'm sure Pearson will become a top manager in the near future, and we'll all look on with envy. Good luck Nigel Pearson, and thanks for the total committment you put forth to save the club. Too bad you're a good old fashioned full blooded passionate Englishman.

Mark Grant wrote:
The words arrogant, egotistical, autocratic and unbelievably foolish spring to mind, quite simply the lessons and mistakes of the past seem not to have affected the man. I am a great believer in forgiving a mistake if you learn and move on, but when it is repeated over and over it comes down to a question of competence. I will not be purchasing a season ticket for the first time in 10 years on the back of this news and I am sure many other will do the same.

Very eloquent Mark, but football is a very strange game, full of very fickle fans. We are in a situation here where we have to make a decision...do we abandon our club, or do we not?
I am less than happy about recent events, but I will still be a Saints fan next season, and the next, and the next, and the next.
So, if you and like minded so called supporters wish to withdraw your support, go ahead, but you will effectively be instrumental in consigning this great club to mediocrity, never mind what crap goes on in the boardroom. Ahhh, I feel better now.

Do any Saints fans ever read the official stuff that comes from St Mary's - not the website spin, but the legal stuff they can't doctor?

The club is in deep, deep financial s***. Never mind who got it there, that's where it is. The bank's next step is to get an administration order from the court. Automatic 10 point deduction - all senior staff (including the manager) sacked and the entire squad put up for sale by a chartered accountant who will simply take the best fire-sale price he can get for anybody - and never mind whether it leaves us with a team or not.

L&W know this - they will have talked long and hard to the bank before coming back in. What they have agreed to do is what the administrator would have done, but with at least some element of football management and foresight. Pearson had to go - he was too expensive. (I know, I know - but that's how deep the s*** is.) Anybody else earning a decent salary is going to have to go too, including most of the first team squad, and the best coaching team we can afford (without a manager)will have to try and survive in the Championship with a squad of reserve teamers and youth. Frankly, I doubt we'll make it.

In the end, though, who are all these people giving up their season tickets, looking for something to do on Saturday afternoons etc. On Saturday afternoon, get your arse to St Mary's and back the team, no matter what and nomatter who. If you can't be bothered to do that, do the rest of us a favour and stop calling yourself a Saints fan. We Saints fans (and I've been one for 50+ years, will carry on supporting the club we love through thick or (more likely) thin.

lowe n wilde our useless
but it ain't jan poortvilet fault he has the worst chairman on side in history
at least he has been a boss b4 IT WAS NP 1ST JOB.
he has won 6 titles in holland
so lets give him a chance n get bk to the prem

COYR

Keith wrote:
Do any Saints fans ever read the official stuff that comes from St Mary's - not the website spin, but the legal stuff they can't doctor? The club is in deep, deep financial s***. Never mind who got it there, that's where it is. The bank's next step is to get an administration order from the court. Automatic 10 point deduction - all senior staff (including the manager) sacked and the entire squad put up for sale by a chartered accountant who will simply take the best fire-sale price he can get for anybody - and never mind whether it leaves us with a team or not. L&W know this - they will have talked long and hard to the bank before coming back in. What they have agreed to do is what the administrator would have done, but with at least some element of football management and foresight. Pearson had to go - he was too expensive. (I know, I know - but that's how deep the s*** is.) Anybody else earning a decent salary is going to have to go too, including most of the first team squad, and the best coaching team we can afford (without a manager)will have to try and survive in the Championship with a squad of reserve teamers and youth. Frankly, I doubt we'll make it. In the end, though, who are all these people giving up their season tickets, looking for something to do on Saturday afternoons etc. On Saturday afternoon, get your arse to St Mary's and back the team, no matter what and nomatter who. If you can't be bothered to do that, do the rest of us a favour and stop calling yourself a Saints fan. We Saints fans (and I've been one for 50+ years, will carry on supporting the club we love through thick or (more likely) thin.

I will too Keith, but you have to think about the old adage "you get what you pay for". Lowe and Co have just appointed two relatively unknown entities into this great club. Pearson was also relatively unknown, but what a fantastic rapport he had with the fans during his short tenure.
The Dutch connection have come here on less money between them than NP was on. It remains to be seen if the cheaper option was the best option.

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Just want to say, thank you Nigel Pearson. You saved our club when at its lowest. Unfortunately I now fear the LOWEst is yet to come. Why oh why is that F**ker back ?!?!?