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Saints release first teamers
8:00am Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Saints have released five former first team players as they push on with Jan Poortvliet's St Mary's revolution.
Alexander Ostlund, Darren Powell, Mario Licka, Jermaine Wright and Inigo Idiakez have all been told they won't be offered extensions to their contracts which expired this week, while youngster Josh Dutton-Black has also been released.
Academy prospect Cedric Baseya has opted not to sign a new deal and has joined Lille in France to be nearer his home.
The long-awaited retained list was handed to the Football League back in May but with negotiations with Nathan Dyer ongoing Saints declined to make it public.
However, with those negotiations now concluded with an as yet unsigned offer remaining on the table and with contracts expiring at the end of June they have gone public.
Saints' PLC chairman Rupert Lowe said: "We thank them all and wish them well, we're very grateful for everything they've done for the club.
"I have personally called all of them to thank them although with holidays it's not been possible to actually speak to a few of them. I just wanted to thank them for their contribution and wish them well.
"The only reason for not making an announcement was that it wasn't in the club's commercial interest to put it into the public domain."
For full story see today's Daily Echo.
Your Say YourDaily Echo
John MacDonald, Southampton says...
8:19am Wed 2 Jul 08
Ben Durutti, Shirley says...
8:23am Wed 2 Jul 08
Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:41am Wed 2 Jul 08
Onwards and upwards as they say.
Tiger, Winchester says...
8:52am Wed 2 Jul 08
C'mon tou Saints.
Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere says...
9:12am Wed 2 Jul 08
james, Soton says...
9:21am Wed 2 Jul 08
ossiesaint, at the bar says...
9:28am Wed 2 Jul 08
CHIP EATER, chipshop says...
9:55am Wed 2 Jul 08
Jackson Five, says...
9:57am Wed 2 Jul 08
Do we have any right backs left in the squad now? Please tell me that Thomas isn't our first choice RB !!!!
Defence!, says...
10:01am Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas, Perry, Davies and Lancashire.
Call me mad, but I think we may need more.
BarnetSaint, Barnet says...
10:04am Wed 2 Jul 08
Lowe just cannot kep his smug face out of it.
Desperate, Southampton says...
10:15am Wed 2 Jul 08
My concern though is that pre season last year was a problem because we did not have a defence prepared and as a result we struggled early on (Saints 1 - Palace 4), which set the tone for the season.
With only 4 recognised defenders at present we are in danger of falling into this trap again.
Lets hope some quality defenders are purchased soon.
Super Legend Davs 74, woolston says...
10:17am Wed 2 Jul 08
Viafara can play centre back too.
allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
10:52am Wed 2 Jul 08
BigRich1980, Cyprus says...
11:12am Wed 2 Jul 08
Not seen much of Dutton Black, was he any good.
I must admit, looking at the profiles page we only have 4 Defenders and an abundance of midfielders, should we not be looking to strengthen our defence.
Robbie, Fareham says...
11:18am Wed 2 Jul 08
If Svensson could make a comeback it would be great to see, but anyone who has been out as long as he has will need a long time to get back into things, and will be at risk of further injuring himself.
billy 2 baps, Waiting for my whistle says...
11:27am Wed 2 Jul 08
Jackson Five wrote:I think you are overlooking Mario Licka. He was left out in the cold by Burley. But under NP looked promising, linking up well especially Vignal
Jermaine Wright always gave his all, which is all you can ask of any player. Wasn't his fault that a succession of managers picked him, so he must have been appreciated quite a lot behind the scenes. Good luck to him and to Ostlund, the rest contributed next to nothing, so no loss. Do we have any right backs left in the squad now? Please tell me that Thomas isn't our first choice RB !!!!
Positve, Real world says...
11:35am Wed 2 Jul 08
Jamie, Thornhill, Southampton says...
11:42am Wed 2 Jul 08
I would of liked to see Licka and Wright stay, but I knew it was unlikely.
Cedric going is a bit of a shock and this may mean that we will have to invest in another forward.
This has made our squad short in many areas, so it must mean that we will be signing a few more before the start of the season.
Although this message sounds a bit negative, I'm not. In fact I'm really looking forward to the new season because it seems so refreshing. I just think in order to do anything in the Championship we need to invest in a few more players.
Major Sir Jerry Pending, says...
11:58am Wed 2 Jul 08
Arthur, Soton says...
12:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Does anyone know whether A.Davies is back in full training??
J, London says...
12:09pm Wed 2 Jul 08
J, London says...
12:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Matt, Southampton says...
12:15pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Up to 4 of those likely to leave soon
7 with little or no first team experience
4 defenders unless some of the midfielders will be filling those gaps
I want to be optimistic but cripes, were cutting it fine!
Wateratt, Horley says...
12:30pm Wed 2 Jul 08
allsaintsnocurves wrote:Josh Dutton-Black - Not when he played on loan for my local club Crawley Town!
Well defence is looking a little thin but then that's nothing new with Saints. I hope Svenssson does make a remarkable comeback because he would surely help the team defensively whether or not he plays many games. Full backs are the area we need strengthening and goalkeeper. Maybe with the release of Rondos there is a new keeper coming!
scott, WALTHAM says...
12:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere says...
1:13pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Assuming we can't find some mugs to give us some money for Jhon then I think we could play him at Right back where his technical limitations will hopefully be less obvious (although I'd worry about him conceding a LOT of free kicks around the area).
dan, work says...
1:14pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Ben Durutti, Shirley says...
1:48pm Wed 2 Jul 08
dan wrote:Vignal was on loan until the end of the season.
is gregory vignal still with us? - doesn'nt appear to be in the squad on the saints website
AL, says...
1:51pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:In last year's annual report it said the club would recieve £5m from the Bale and Walcott sales in the summer of 2008.
No real surprises and no great losses really. The big question is which of the players still under contract will be sold or loaned out to save money - i.e. Rasiak, Skacel, Andrew Davis, Viafara??
Therefore I do not think we will have to sell any players inorder to pay off overdraft/debt etc. If any players are sold I think it will be with the intention to bring in other equally as good, or better, players.
billy 2 baps, Waiting for my whistle says...
2:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
AL wrote:Unless the money is already spoken for, elsewhere
Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote: No real surprises and no great losses really. The big question is which of the players still under contract will be sold or loaned out to save money - i.e. Rasiak, Skacel, Andrew Davis, Viafara??In last year\'s annual report it said the club would recieve £5m from the Bale and Walcott sales in the summer of 2008. Therefore I do not think we will have to sell any players inorder to pay off overdraft/debt etc. If any players are sold I think it will be with the intention to bring in other equally as good, or better, players.
allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
2:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Matt wrote:When they said Saints would be playing a lot of youngsters next season they weren't wrong!! The full back positions could even be covered by Mills and Davies - the young American right back. They must have a lot of potential or we will see Surman and Thomas playing right and left back...maybe Lancashire can play right back - he's meant to be really good on the ball!
A squad of 25 players Up to 4 of those likely to leave soon 7 with little or no first team experience 4 defenders unless some of the midfielders will be filling those gaps I want to be optimistic but cripes, were cutting it fine!
Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere says...
2:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08
billy 2 baps wrote:we forewent all future instalments on Walcott last season in favour of an up front cash payment.
AL wrote:Unless the money is already spoken for, elsewhereMajor Sir Jerry Pending wrote: No real surprises and no great losses really. The big question is which of the players still under contract will be sold or loaned out to save money - i.e. Rasiak, Skacel, Andrew Davis, Viafara??In last year\\\'s annual report it said the club would recieve £5m from the Bale and Walcott sales in the summer of 2008. Therefore I do not think we will have to sell any players inorder to pay off overdraft/debt etc. If any players are sold I think it will be with the intention to bring in other equally as good, or better, players.
Iain, Lordshill says...
2:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
saint steve, southampton says...
2:30pm Wed 2 Jul 08
the totton scrutineer, TOTTON says...
3:32pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Al, says...
3:32pm Wed 2 Jul 08
saint steve wrote:Safri needs to be sold as he is now sharing his position with Schniderlin and Wotton, his wages are also very high. Viafara should probably go as well because he is also dead wood and I don't see a place for him on the team if we play 433.
With rumours that Telfer's coming back, I for one hope we offer him a one year contract, he's a hard worker & I believe at this level he could do a job for us. Hope we keep hold of A.Davies, Safri, Skacel, Rasiak (he's good for 20 goals), Viafara & Stern John. I've seen some people calling for the sale of Rasiak, but I don't think some people realise how many goals we would need to score to have a chance of getting promoted & Rasiak would be good for 15-20 goals.
I would like to keep Skacel, as a left winger, and Rasiak because both of the are very good and along with A. Davies and Stern John we wold have a very good team, aslong as they bring a good full back or 2 in.
Hopeflly Svensson will be ready for the start of the season. Him and Davies would be a brilliant combination. Along with Thomas and Perry as back up, because knowing our luck we'll need them. If Telfer comes back I thinkwe have a very good chance of promotion to be honest.
Also Holmes is apparently a very capable right winger. So I don't think Dyer is needed.
Bialkowski
Telfer, Davies, Svensson, Surman
Holmes, Schniederlin, Skacel
Lallana, John, Rasiak
Subs: Mcgoldrick, Saganowski, Gillet, Wotton, Thomas.
We don't really need a keeper on the bench, any ambitious attacking team should have as many attacking options as possible with maybe one defender.
Denis Rofe, still collecting cones..... says...
3:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Iain wrote:If anyone bumps into Darren Powell they will probably get elbowed in the mouth and head-butted, during this exchange he will almost certainly injure himself and need six weeks rest.
Incidentally, if any of you happen to bump into Darren Powell, can you advise him to return to Brentford? I know you lot know him as a disastrous sicknote, but he was brilliant for us, and we'd love him back. I even named a goldfish after him.
Is your goldfish available for next season?
Gz, southampton says...
3:58pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Total football does not work
allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
4:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Davis
Gillett Svennson Davies Surman
Wotton Scheiderlin
Saganowski Lallana Holmes
John
BREAKING NEWS, SKY SPORTS CENTRE says...
4:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints.
Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says "This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership"
Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.
Spin Doctor, Spinnig says...
4:43pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Baseya gone, but he recomendededed Saints to Scheiderlin.
LOWE OUT AND TAKE THOSE DUTCH CLOWNS WITH YOU
Teach, The Mountie says...
4:46pm Wed 2 Jul 08
recomendededed
Possibly my favourite spelling error ever.
Spin Doctor, Spinning says...
4:58pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Teach wrote:Im my onion its spelt correctaly.
recomendedededPossibly my favourite spelling error ever.
exetersaint, says...
5:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08
BREAKING NEWS wrote:WUM. Unsubstantiated rumour at it's finest.
*****BREAKING NEWS********* Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints. Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says "This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership" Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.
Graham, Herts says...
5:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
BREAKING NEWS wrote:Not according to Sky
*****BREAKING NEWS********* Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints. Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says "This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership" Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.
wateratt, Horley says...
5:38pm Wed 2 Jul 08
allsaintsnocurves wrote:Is Sky Andrew their agent now then?!
This could be one possible formation and team sheet from the players already in the squad. I could see this team providing the exciting attacking play that has sadly been lacking in the past few seasons. Davis Gillett Svennson Davies Surman Wotton Scheiderlin Saganowski Lallana Holmes John
saint4life, winchester says...
5:38pm Wed 2 Jul 08
BREAKING NEWS wrote:Just checked Sky website and there is no mention of this anywhere. Whilst it would be good if it were true, I think that this is an elaborate rumour. Just out of interest, which link did you use to find this story?
*****BREAKING NEWS********* Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints. Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says "This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership" Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.
Graham, Herts says...
5:39pm Wed 2 Jul 08
So who is going to do it for us this year. I thought that Beattie and Phillips were 'on fire' last season, sadly for the opposition.
Any views on who will be piling in the goals and making me happy with 3 wins in a row.
A few twinges of concern here at the moment.
wateratt, Horley says...
5:40pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Graham wrote:Sky Andrew must be their agent!?
BREAKING NEWS wrote: *****BREAKING NEWS********* Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints. Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says "This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership" Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.Not according to Sky
only one not blind, southampton says...
6:18pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Wazza, says...
6:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
saint4life wrote:The imaginery link in his head.
BREAKING NEWS wrote: *****BREAKING NEWS********* Mohammed Kallon and Leandro are saints. Mohammed Kallon has signed a 1 year contract with Southampton football Club today, the African says \"This club are going places, i have signed a one year deal with a view to more when we reach the premiership\" Leandro (Leandro Marcolini Pedroso de Almeida) is a not very well known player but is a Brazilian born Hungarian. He has been signed from Debreceni and can play on the Left or Rightback posistions.Just checked Sky website and there is no mention of this anywhere. Whilst it would be good if it were true, I think that this is an elaborate rumour. Just out of interest, which link did you use to find this story?
exetersaint, says...
6:27pm Wed 2 Jul 08
LB, Southampton says...
6:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08
realist, says...
6:47pm Wed 2 Jul 08
LB wrote:yes, but how on earth are they going to get a work permit? He's from Sierra Leone, rememeber?
If you look at Mohammed Kallon on wikipedia it says he signed on the 30th on a free.
Besides, if it's on Wikipedia, it could be anybody sticking that kind of rubbish on, like our old no-brains mate BREAKING NEWS - or even YOU for that matter!
Dave, says...
7:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08
james, Soton says...
7:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Jannersaint, plymuff says...
7:36pm Wed 2 Jul 08
realist wrote:The "signed on 30th" update on wiki was done a few minutes before LB posted. As much as I love our club Kallon is too good for us. I know little about leandro.....
LB wrote: If you look at Mohammed Kallon on wikipedia it says he signed on the 30th on a free.yes, but how on earth are they going to get a work permit? He\'s from Sierra Leone, rememeber? Besides, if it\'s on Wikipedia, it could be anybody sticking that kind of rubbish on, like our old no-brains mate BREAKING NEWS - or even YOU for that matter!
Good retained list and I'm looking forward to the news about two new fullbacks. We must be getting someone in. Shame Danny Mills went to Doncaster.
David Crook, Yorkshire says...
7:46pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Come on you Saints
David Crook
Howey, says...
8:07pm Wed 2 Jul 08
David Crook wrote:agreed !!!!! it must be really messing with the heads of anti-rupert thicko minority though !!!! all this good news !!! lol !!!!!
As I have said before,it just gets better and better under Lowe and Wilde,and the Dutch set up,these are the players we wanted out,so all the above have listened and seen what us saints fans want,it's going to be a great season,and the club look professional now to handle it.
Come on you Saints
David Crook
Rock and roll, says...
8:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Good! jock tw@t! You don't like the English so stop looking for support. F^ck off home.
Mike the Hat, Basingstoke says...
8:14pm Wed 2 Jul 08
allsaintsnocurves wrote:Mills impressed me last season in the reserves as a left back who tackles hard, can head the ball and gets forward to put over decent crosses. Jamie Hatch at right back is very similar. I hope they're given a chance in the pre-season friendlies to see if they can step up to the first team. I think they could.
Matt wrote: A squad of 25 players Up to 4 of those likely to leave soon 7 with little or no first team experience 4 defenders unless some of the midfielders will be filling those gaps I want to be optimistic but cripes, were cutting it fine!When they said Saints would be playing a lot of youngsters next season they weren\'t wrong!! The full back positions could even be covered by Mills and Davies - the young American right back. They must have a lot of potential or we will see Surman and Thomas playing right and left back...maybe Lancashire can play right back - he\'s meant to be really good on the ball!
Jesus_02, Kingsland says...
8:15pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Ostlund is well though of in the Championship. I can see him being a bargain for someone but I cant really complain with the decision.
Wright, Powell, spot on.
Licka? Didnt he still have a year on his contract? He is around 25 and was just beginning to perform for Saints. I think that it wont be long before it is made clear that we have made a bit of mistake here.
P.S when are we going to get a full back or 3 !!!
sfc, sfc says...
8:37pm Wed 2 Jul 08
liar, says...
10:40pm Wed 2 Jul 08
sfc wrote:Typical wikipedia.
On the 30th June 2008 Mohammad Kallon completed a free transfer to Carlisle United a lot of billys on here
well now it says Cardiff City, so some b*gger's been p*ssing about again. I'm going to change it to Coventry.
Tony, Sholing says...
11:56pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Iain wrote:Hi Iain, it's good to know i'm not the only ex Bee in Soton. I grew up in Boston Manor and moved here from Northolt recently. Darren Powell was a good player for Brentford and could do a great job in League 2. But my loyalty now lies with the Saints and VT, my local non league team. But i'll probably watch the Bees when they play at Bournemouth and i will always look out for their results.
Incidentally, if any of you happen to bump into Darren Powell, can you advise him to return to Brentford? I know you lot know him as a disastrous sicknote, but he was brilliant for us, and we\'d love him back. I even named a goldfish after him.
will peace, here says...
12:12am Thu 3 Jul 08
British sports, Southampton says...
7:48am Thu 3 Jul 08
Rock and roll wrote:Jock tw@t - seems like you have as much love for Scotland as Murray might for England's football team. Do you support Scotland when they are playing? I thoroughly doubt it, which makes you the same as Murray if he doesn't support england's football team. Many people don't but does it make them bad people? Moron!
So it looks like that jock Pr!ck Murray is gonna be knocked out by Nadal. Good! jock tw@t! You don't like the English so stop looking for support. F^ck off home.
COYR
Rock and roll, says...
8:14am Thu 3 Jul 08
British sports, Southampton on 7:48am today
Rock and roll wrote: So it looks like that jock Pr!ck Murray is gonna be knocked out by Nadal. Good! jock tw@t! You don't like the English so stop looking for support. F^ck off home.Jock tw@t - seems like you have as much love for Scotland as Murray might for England's football team. Do you support Scotland when they are playing? I thoroughly doubt it, which makes you the same as Murray if he doesn't support england's football team. Many people don't but does it make them bad people? Moron! COYR
The difference being, i don't look for support of the jocks!
He said he'd like to win the hearts of the English and take Henmans spot.
Saying he doesn't care who wins the football as long as it's not England wins no true English hearts. Only little glory boys like you!
Remember this, the Jocks the Micks and the Taffs, hate the English, that will never change.
You can support British sports all you want, but the 3 above will always detest the English.
I for one would not try and appease any of those 3 for support. Knowing the Enlish were behind me would be more than enough.
He's a Jock with a genuine dislike for the English and i'm glad he's out.
If he was the true Jock that spoke against England in the football, why hasn't he got the full support of his home country?
The nearest a jock will go to watch a home sportsman is Manchester, and look what the drunken sc%ms done to their town.
Tennis is a sport that jocks frown upon as it's a class thing that they truly delve in the depths of.
I'd support the French long before the 3 lowlifes above.
Ben Durutti, Shirley says...
8:24am Thu 3 Jul 08
Captain Swing, Southampton says...
8:40am Thu 3 Jul 08
Rock and roll wrote:Hey, brain dead, I've got Irish, Scots and English blood, was born in Southampton and would put it to you that most peope in the British Isles get on with each other pretty well - regardless of race, colour and religion. I suggest you are sick and that you seek the advice of your doctor on this issue.
British sports, Southampton on 7:48am todayThe difference being, i don't look for support of the jocks! He said he'd like to win the hearts of the English and take Henmans spot. Saying he doesn't care who wins the football as long as it's not England wins no true English hearts. Only little glory boys like you! Remember this, the Jocks the Micks and the Taffs, hate the English, that will never change. You can support British sports all you want, but the 3 above will always detest the English. I for one would not try and appease any of those 3 for support. Knowing the Enlish were behind me would be more than enough. He's a Jock with a genuine dislike for the English and i'm glad he's out. If he was the true Jock that spoke against England in the football, why hasn't he got the full support of his home country? The nearest a jock will go to watch a home sportsman is Manchester, and look what the drunken sc%ms done to their town. Tennis is a sport that jocks frown upon as it's a class thing that they truly delve in the depths of. I'd support the French long before the 3 lowlifes above.Rock and roll wrote: So it looks like that jock Pr!ck Murray is gonna be knocked out by Nadal. Good! jock tw@t! You don't like the English so stop looking for support. F^ck off home.Jock tw@t - seems like you have as much love for Scotland as Murray might for England's football team. Do you support Scotland when they are playing? I thoroughly doubt it, which makes you the same as Murray if he doesn't support england's football team. Many people don't but does it make them bad people? Moron! COYR
What's this go to do with the Saints anyway?
Rock and roll, says...
9:10am Thu 3 Jul 08
If anyone needs a check up from the neck up, it's so called fans (glory hunting ar6seholes), that are idiot enough to support someone that hates them, just so they can say "A Brit won Wimbledon".
Amir Khan is by far more English than Murray. He shows his love for England, and has never once been known to say he'd like "Any team but England to win" when we're playing another country in any sport.
I also have Mick and Jock blood in me, but i was born in Southampton. I am ENGLISH !
I feel nothing for my parents country. Lets face it, they ended up here in Southampton ENGLAND, so Scotland and Ireland can't be that good or they would have gone back!
Condor Man, Southampton says...
9:27am Thu 3 Jul 08
Murray's a loser, glad he's out. Tennis is a crap sport anyway.
Martin Orford, says...
9:58am Thu 3 Jul 08
I know I keep banging on about this, but short passing football has brought nothing but misery to Saints in recent years.
8r4dder5, Northampton says...
3:51pm Thu 3 Jul 08
NC Fan for Life, Chandlers Ford says...
5:54pm Fri 4 Jul 08
That leaves us very weak and NO Full Backs !!
Will have to hope several youngsters step-up.
Jesus_02, kingsland` says...
7:37pm Sun 6 Jul 08
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Bitterne Park Tim, Bitterne Park says...
8:15am Wed 2 Jul 08
We need consistant and determined players, most of which that are leaving do not fit into that mould, with maybe Wright as the only exception (But to be honest I never rated him).
It is a shame about Baseya, he looked promising.
You never knew what you were going to get from the oter players... Licka started to play well towards the end, Idiakez is often injured and probably highly paid, Powell is injured and inconsistant.... Ostlund is well... he is Jesus, I am not a beleiver!