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SAINTS 1 BIRMINGHAM 2
4:59pm Saturday 16th August 2008
Comments (75)Kevin Phillips came back to haunt his old club as he scored Birmingham's winner less than a minute after coming on a second half sub at St Mary's.
Phillips was part of the Saints squad that got relegated from the Premiership and was given a hostile reception by the St Mary's crowd.
But he silenced them pretty quickly as he scored with his first touch after coming on and secured Birmingham a 2-1 win.
Stern John thought he had given Saints the perfect start when he steered Lloyd James' cross from the right into the bottom corner on four minutes.
However, the linesman's flag was already up for offside and the goal was ruled out.
Saints were clearly trying to get balls in from out wide and John came agonisingly close to getting on the end of another, this time from Andrew Surman on the left while moments later James' low effort flew across the face of the six yard box without a touch.
Lee Holmes worked a short corner and charged into the area on ten minutes but his drilled low shot was held by Maik Taylor at the near post.
It was a really bright opening for Saints who looked slick and were pinning Birmingham back, pressuring them and forcing mistakes.
Birmingham created their first half chance on 15 minutes when Quincy Owusu-Abeyie's misdirected shot found the head of Gary O'Connor but with the ball arriving quickly he could only direct it over the bar.
For all their dominance Saints almost fell behind on 23 minutes when Owusu-Abeyie outpaced James down the right and got the by-line. His low cross deflected on to O'Connor who nudged the ball goalwards where Andrew Surman was waiting to clear off the line.
The Blues had an even better chance a minute later when Owusu-Abeyie squared to James McFadden who was under no pressure but he took an airshot from ten yards out and missed the ball entirely.
Kelvin Davis had his first action on 27 minutes when McFadden fired in a cross from the left that the Saints stopper palmed away.
Saints came so close to breaking the deadlock on the half hour mark as James' ball down the right found McGoldrick, he pulled back to Simon Gillett whose first time shot went like a bullet but straight at Maik Taylor who got down low to produce an excellent save.
Davis did really well to keep Birmingham out on 35 minutes. First he got down low to his right to stop McFadden's effort from 20 yards and then slid to tackle Owusu-Abeyie as he tried to make something of the rebound.
Birmingham were forced into their first change on 38 minutes with Medhi Nafti hobbling off to be replaced by Cameron Jerome who went to the right of midfield with Sebastian Larsson moving into the centre.
O'Connor made what looked to be a major error for Birmingham two minutes later. Owusu-Abeyie shot across goal towards the far corner and the ball looked to be heading in before O'Connor decided to make sure but he was in an offside position and it was ruled out.
Saints went straight up the other end and created a decent opening for Holmes he slashed his shot from 12 yards out for a throw.
But Saints did take the lead on 43 minutes when Holmes delivered a corner from the right into the danger area and Chris Perry burst through the crowd to head home to give Saints a highly satisfying 1-0 half time lead.
Saints started the second half in similar fashion and should have doubled their lead just two minutes after the restart.
McGoldrick whipped in a cross from the right that picked out the diving head of John but he steered wide of the target from eight yards.
And they paid the price when Birmingham equalised on 49 minutes.
Saints couldn't clear a cross into the box and it broke to the feet of O'Connor who had time to take a touch and slot low past Davis for 1-1.
It would have got even worse for Saints were it not for Davis.
On 53 minutes Jerome was taken out on the edge of the box but the referee played the advantage as McFadden picked it up, danced round a challenge but saw his low shot brilliantly saved by Davis diving at his feet.
Birmingham made a second change on 66 minutes with Marcus Bent replacing O'Connor.
The Blues tested Davis again a minute later as Owusu-Abeyi cut in from the left and drilled a low shot the Saints keeper blocked with his feet before the follow-up went wide.
Saints made their first switch on 69 minutes with Jake Thomson coming on for John. McGoldrick went up front with Thomson wide right.
There was a controversial moment five minutes later when Liam Ridgewell headed in Stuart Parnaby's cross from the right but it was ruled out for offside with the Birmingham players protesting to the referee and linesman.
Birmingham made their final change on 76 minutes with Kevin Phillips getting a hostile reception from the Saints crowd as he replaced Owusu-Abeyie.
Incredibly he scored a goal within seconds.
McFadden got down the left and lifted a cross to the far post, Bent's downwards header bounced up and hit the underside of the bar and Phillips was on hand to stab the ball in for 2-1.
It was now with John off and no attacking options on the bench that Poortvliet's squad looked a little exposed.
Birmingham changed their tactics from pushing forward to getting men behind the ball and making themselves difficult to break down.
Poortvliet was urging his team forward from the technical area but they didn't seem to have much more to give.
As the fourth official held up the board showing three minutes of stoppage time Michael Svensson was pushed on as a makeshift striker.
But it was to no avail as Saints failed to create another opening and despite two decent performances Poortvliet was still looking for his first point as Saints boss.
For match reaction don't miss Monday's Daily Echo.
Your Say YourDaily Echo
Rupert Lowe, St Marys says...
5:15pm Sat 16 Aug 08
HaHaHaHa
Kevin Phillips, Sportsville says...
5:16pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Have that you scummers
Denzil, Chilworth Retard Home says...
5:18pm Sat 16 Aug 08
'Michael Svensson was pushed on as a makeshift striker'
2 games in and we are already desperate
2 games in and we are already desperate
about time, soton says...
5:22pm Sat 16 Aug 08
ooohhh let me be the first to say it
TOLD YOU SO
TOLD YOU SO
TOLD YOU SO
we are going down
TOLD YOU SO
TOLD YOU SO
TOLD YOU SO
we are going down
Happy Harry, The Prem says...
5:22pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Nice one , a 19k crowd to watch Birmingham whip your sad @rses .Sending your best 2 strikers out on loan is simply suicidal, fkin brilliant , Div 1 awaits your ambition less club , it just keeps on getting BETTER .
Saints Steve, St Marys Touchline says...
5:23pm Sat 16 Aug 08
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Saints number 1 fan, St Marys says...
5:25pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Run for the hills people, we are screwed, we cannot be saved
TFLS Saint, The South Coast Riviera says...
5:25pm Sat 16 Aug 08
The total football revolution at St Mary's inspired by popular chairman Rupert Lowe, is gathering momentum by the day...
DICK Saint, The south coast gimp farm says...
5:28pm Sat 16 Aug 08
TFLS Saint wrote:So are the defeats
The total football revolution at St Mary's inspired by popular chairman Rupert Lowe, is gathering momentum by the day...
TFLS Saint, The South Coast Riviera says...
5:33pm Sat 16 Aug 08
So are the defeats
I'm sure that Lord Lowe will continue the recent improvements in the Saints playing style and personnel...
I'm sure that Lord Lowe will continue the recent improvements in the Saints playing style and personnel...
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5:39pm Sat 16 Aug 08
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Optimist, Shirley says...
5:44pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Just got back. Feels strange when everybody is praising after over half an hour of first rate football from us. Then after full time it is "everything's ruined" and "it's the end". Pathetic. Give it a little more time, a little more faith and tell the team how it is.
We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON'T PANIC!
We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don't worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody.
Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don't let these.. get us down.
We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON'T PANIC!
We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don't worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody.
Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don't let these.. get us down.
Kevin Phillips, anywhere but says...
5:48pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Sorry but if you sang out, you really were asking for it.
I do have a heart, and I will protect it.
I do have a heart, and I will protect it.
Hope, Pandora's box says...
5:51pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Still here.
behind enemy lines, Wickham says...
5:54pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Well said Optimist, can't believe the rest of you morons, 2 games in, last years cup finalists with a manager who has a point to prove (**** good manager too IIRC) and a recent prem side with all the money and players, give our manager some backing and time. I'm not a Lowe fan but this isn't about him, this is about my team and supporting the players and staff.
Andy P, Millbrook says...
5:56pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Optimist wrote:
Just got back. Feels strange when everybody is praising after over half an hour of first rate football from us. Then after full time it is "everything's ruined" and "it's the end". Pathetic. Give it a little more time, a little more faith and tell the team how it is. We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON'T PANIC! We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don't worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody. Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don't let these.. get us down.
Well said mate.
If John had scored the chance in the first half,easier to miss than score,it could have been different.
I must say that the atmosphere in the first half was brilliant,second half it was like fratton park,flat.
Its not how we start the season,its how we finnish it,the youngsters would have learned from today.
The last thing they need is all the negativity that Saints supporters seem to be good at.
dave from gosport, gosport says...
5:58pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Kevin Phillips wrote:Have what,your missus no thanks she has been round the block a few times.
Have that you scummers
So'ton Mike, says...
6:03pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Not wanting to sound pessimistic after just two games but was this not as last season and we ended in a dog fight to say in this league, again in two games we took the lead only to throw it away, no killer punch.
We have a new set up with a new management team with new ideas everyone talks about not looking at the table until 5 or 6 matches have passed the problem with that for Southampton is we could be 15 or 18 points behind.
I have the unpleasant task of having to work with Pompy funs only once again to get my nosed rubbed in it I do think that Lowe may have forgetting what we the funs have to put up with.
Or is it he is a plant from Portsmouth to ensure that we never make it back to the top flight
We have a new set up with a new management team with new ideas everyone talks about not looking at the table until 5 or 6 matches have passed the problem with that for Southampton is we could be 15 or 18 points behind.
I have the unpleasant task of having to work with Pompy funs only once again to get my nosed rubbed in it I do think that Lowe may have forgetting what we the funs have to put up with.
Or is it he is a plant from Portsmouth to ensure that we never make it back to the top flight
George, Hamble says...
6:04pm Sat 16 Aug 08
How did Gillett miss that chance in the first half, it was easy but he put it straight at the keeper FFS
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
6:04pm Sat 16 Aug 08
dave from gosport wrote:Well said Dave from Gosport.
Kevin Phillips wrote: Have that you scummersHave what,your missus no thanks she has been round the block a few times.
If you are not up to stopping Kevin Phillips on the pitch, dish out the abuse of his wife in true Saints Sportsmanship style.
I guess you are the sort of bloke that is all smiles and jokes with your neighbour, then kicks his cat when he is not looking.
What a Hero.
TFLS Saint, The South Coast Riviera says...
6:04pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Well said Optimist, can't believe the rest of you morons, 2 games in, last years cup finalists with a manager who has a point to prove (**** good manager too IIRC) and a recent prem side with all the money and players, give our manager some backing and time. I'm not a Lowe fan but this isn't about him, this is about my team and supporting the players and staff.
I'm sure the Total football revolution will pay dividends in the short to mid term future...
I'm sure the Total football revolution will pay dividends in the short to mid term future...
Chris, Canterbury says...
6:10pm Sat 16 Aug 08
You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination.
Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan.
It's a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game.
Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we're skint.
It's times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans.
Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward.
Let's look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success.
Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion.
I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league.
If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we'll be fine.
I hope to God that nobody booed the team off.
Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.
Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan.
It's a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game.
Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we're skint.
It's times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans.
Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward.
Let's look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success.
Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion.
I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league.
If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we'll be fine.
I hope to God that nobody booed the team off.
Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.
kev Painter, London says...
6:14pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Andy P wrote:The lads played some good football in the first half.
Optimist wrote: Just got back. Feels strange when everybody is praising after over half an hour of first rate football from us. Then after full time it is \"everything\'s ruined\" and \"it\'s the end\". Pathetic. Give it a little more time, a little more faith and tell the team how it is. We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON\'T PANIC! We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don\'t worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody. Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don\'t let these.. get us down.Well said mate. If John had scored the chance in the first half,easier to miss than score,it could have been different. I must say that the atmosphere in the first half was brilliant,second half it was like fratton park,flat. Its not how we start the season,its how we finnish it,the youngsters would have learned from today. The last thing they need is all the negativity that Saints supporters seem to be good at.
They played some really good one touch football.
How John missed that goal that was put on his head by McGoldric,god only knows.
McGoldric had a brilliant game,as did Killer.
When supporters realise that these youngsters are learning all the time,the better.
For the last three seasons we have been lossing by playing absolute crap.
Ive seen Saints three times this year,and everytime l have been delighted with the performances.
If any supporters are going to be negative,just p-ss off.
These youngsters are really trying and have got the ability,the support needs to be giving back.
Anyone who honestly thought today was a home banker,is living in cloud cookoo land.
I expected Saints to lose today,the bonus is that they lossed but played good attractive football.
As the above poster has pointed out,the youngsters will learn from today.
Ex Pat Fan Madeira, Madeira says...
6:15pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Optimist wrote:Hi Optimist
Just got back. Feels strange when everybody is praising after over half an hour of first rate football from us. Then after full time it is "everything's ruined" and "it's the end". Pathetic. Give it a little more time, a little more faith and tell the team how it is. We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON'T PANIC! We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don't worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody. Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don't let these.. get us down.
Pathetic?Where are we at the moment-everyone is
saying how wonderful our "total football" is-
fantastic.Our league points-0-6.The only realistic offer we had in over the past seasons was from SISU-blocked by Lowe and Wilde.
They then went to Coventry FC attracted a young Prem league manager-Chris Coleman-and they have so far got 6 points out of 6 and top or near the top of the Prem.
Go down a league and a club called Leicester have not conceded a goal nor lost and are 3 rd in their league-Pearson seems to be going places.
Now,we learn that our player of the season is to be sold off for peanuts-Don t go on about how wonderful RL is-his business expertise sucks.
Mark, Soton says...
6:21pm Sat 16 Aug 08
sailor sam wrote:Kev got alot of abuse. I love banter but you cross the line when it is family, what next?. If we stuck to insulting him for insulting us "I never should have gone there, I knew it was a mistake." I am sure his mind would not have been as clear and we would not have been the bastards. Well said Sam.
dave from gosport wrote:Well said Dave from Gosport. If you are not up to stopping Kevin Phillips on the pitch, dish out the abuse of his wife in true Saints Sportsmanship style. I guess you are the sort of bloke that is all smiles and jokes with your neighbour, then kicks his cat when he is not looking. What a Hero.Kevin Phillips wrote: Have that you scummersHave what,your missus no thanks she has been round the block a few times.
The Frog Chorus (chapel end), says...
6:32pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Must say I was really nervous about the fans reaction to the players performance today but credit to all of us...
always encouraging.
the northern end were as loud as ever always singing throughout ("stand up if you've shagged his wife" - harsh but I couldn't help but laugh - genius)
At the final whistle, I feared the worse as, lets face it, we played well but it was really bloody frustrating but everyone seemed to see the effort the boys put in and applauded them off the pitch.
True support by true supporters!!!
Booing them at this point would be even more damaging to our season than selling andrew davies.
Well done boys and well done St. Marys, lets keep singing and encouraging and we could see this side mature into a really good little team.
We all stand together - COYR
always encouraging.
the northern end were as loud as ever always singing throughout ("stand up if you've shagged his wife" - harsh but I couldn't help but laugh - genius)
At the final whistle, I feared the worse as, lets face it, we played well but it was really bloody frustrating but everyone seemed to see the effort the boys put in and applauded them off the pitch.
True support by true supporters!!!
Booing them at this point would be even more damaging to our season than selling andrew davies.
Well done boys and well done St. Marys, lets keep singing and encouraging and we could see this side mature into a really good little team.
We all stand together - COYR
Andover Saint, Andover says...
6:45pm Sat 16 Aug 08
I have been very encouraged by the young Saints side over the first 3 games and by the decisions made by JP. The one thing missing at present is confidence note the improvement after scoring at Exeter and in today's first half. There are still 44 games to play and I see 6 points is achievable against a nervous Derby and Blackpool. Lets judge this team's development after 10 or 15 games. Bringing back Jason Euell would help stiffen the midfield. COYR
sainth, Southampton says...
6:57pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Was at the game today, first half was great, refreshing to see young Saints players passing and moving the ball and creating really good cahnces. Second half was when the lads seemed to run out of steam and ideas. In this league we will have to play a mixture of passing football and also be able to mix it up a bit and I think that the lads will have learned from this as Birmingham got a grip on the second half quite quickly and never let go. Did anyone else at the game notice that Surman had about as little interest in the game as I would in watching the blue few! Need to get a win very quickly though as a previous poster has said we dont want to be 15 odd points behind early doors. COYR
MikeC, Southampton says...
7:11pm Sat 16 Aug 08
The Frog Chorus (chapel end) wrote:True genius. Just in case a former Saints striker doesn't fancy it, let's insult him and his wife. Guaranteed to make win a tackle after five seconds Whig lead to his goal after twenty. With true genius like that the away fans needn't bother - we'll do their work for them. On the bright side only one half-hearted chorus about killing neighbouring fans so maybe some people are starting to get the message.
Must say I was really nervous about the fans reaction to the players performance today but credit to all of us...
always encouraging.
the northern end were as loud as ever always singing throughout ("stand up if you've shagged his wife" - harsh but I couldn't help but laugh - genius)
At the final whistle, I feared the worse as, lets face it, we played well but it was really bloody frustrating but everyone seemed to see the effort the boys put in and applauded them off the pitch.
True support by true supporters!!!
Booing them at this point would be even more damaging to our season than selling andrew davies.
Well done boys and well done St. Marys, lets keep singing and encouraging and we could see this side mature into a really good little team.
We all stand together - COYR
Apart from that, most entertaining I've seem saints play for years. Pity Killer and Surman both went missing to allow the two goals but it already looks like we may win a few more games than last season. And hopefully the moaners will continue to stay away.
Mr Sport is Sport, In the toilet with a hard says...
7:17pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Saints should sign Stan Collymore on a 10 year contract for 100k a week and a 10 mill signing on fee, then at the end of the season saints can do the double!!!
Relegation and bankruptcy!!!
Happy Days ahead
Relegation and bankruptcy!!!
Happy Days ahead
Big Papa Pump, In the Ring says...
7:20pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Selling Andrew Davies then we must have a good defence .Best of luck in the forthcoming games nil points!
Jesus_02, KINGSLAND says...
7:26pm Sat 16 Aug 08
sailor sam wrote:seriosly, have you seen Ormerod though.
dave from gosport wrote:Well said Dave from Gosport. If you are not up to stopping Kevin Phillips on the pitch, dish out the abuse of his wife in true Saints Sportsmanship style. I guess you are the sort of bloke that is all smiles and jokes with your neighbour, then kicks his cat when he is not looking. What a Hero.Kevin Phillips wrote: Have that you scummersHave what,your missus no thanks she has been round the block a few times.
What did Philips dp/not do to deserve that
Michael, Itchen says...
7:57pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Ex Pat Fan Madeira wrote:It's only 2 matches into the season and the doom merchants are predicting relegation or stating what is happening at Leicester and Coventry. I'm backing The Saints to get out of this situation. And I'm no Lowe luvvie.
Optimist wrote: Just got back. Feels strange when everybody is praising after over half an hour of first rate football from us. Then after full time it is "everything's ruined" and "it's the end". Pathetic. Give it a little more time, a little more faith and tell the team how it is. We still look a little light at fullback, this is because we play with wings further up the field, making space for good channels down each flank. This means time to control the ball and good areas to pass into. This will be sorted, DON'T PANIC! We will soon be breaking from better areas ourselves, this is the time to pull the team together NOT APART. We have a young team and a manager who is just now witnessing the style and tactic commonplace in this league. Don't worry if this TEAM puts in the effort we can roll over anybody. Today we played THE FAVOURITES and were close to breaking them before they knew what hit them. Have courage COYR! Don't let these.. get us down.Hi Optimist Pathetic?Where are we at the moment-everyone is saying how wonderful our "total football" is- fantastic.Our league points-0-6.The only realistic offer we had in over the past seasons was from SISU-blocked by Lowe and Wilde. They then went to Coventry FC attracted a young Prem league manager-Chris Coleman-and they have so far got 6 points out of 6 and top or near the top of the Prem. Go down a league and a club called Leicester have not conceded a goal nor lost and are 3 rd in their league-Pearson seems to be going places. Now,we learn that our player of the season is to be sold off for peanuts-Don t go on about how wonderful RL is-his business expertise sucks.
Denzil the Neanderthal, Chilworth/Romsey, says...
7:59pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Why was Kevin Phillips sold? Please remind me and tell me how we invested the money.
The Frog Chorus, Sholing says...
8:27pm Sat 16 Aug 08
MikeC wrote:MikeC - granted "genius" is probably the wrong choice of word but I'd much rather the fans sing humourous songs like these than start anti lowe chants and the alike. And like you I'm not a great fan of the "shoot the pompey scum" songs but at the end of the day what I posted was very positive. why jump on that flipant comment?!!!
The Frog Chorus (chapel end) wrote: Must say I was really nervous about the fans reaction to the players performance today but credit to all of us... always encouraging. the northern end were as loud as ever always singing throughout (\\\"stand up if you\\\'ve shagged his wife\\\" - harsh but I couldn\\\'t help but laugh - genius) At the final whistle, I feared the worse as, lets face it, we played well but it was really bloody frustrating but everyone seemed to see the effort the boys put in and applauded them off the pitch. True support by true supporters!!! Booing them at this point would be even more damaging to our season than selling andrew davies. Well done boys and well done St. Marys, lets keep singing and encouraging and we could see this side mature into a really good little team. We all stand together - COYRTrue genius. Just in case a former Saints striker doesn\\\'t fancy it, let\\\'s insult him and his wife. Guaranteed to make win a tackle after five seconds Whig lead to his goal after twenty. With true genius like that the away fans needn\\\'t bother - we\\\'ll do their work for them. On the bright side only one half-hearted chorus about killing neighbouring fans so maybe some people are starting to get the message. Apart from that, most entertaining I\\\'ve seem saints play for years. Pity Killer and Surman both went missing to allow the two goals but it already looks like we may win a few more games than last season. And hopefully the moaners will continue to stay away.
Lets not start picking holes in things like that because it endangers you of being labeled a "moaner" yourself.
But lets not argue amonst ourselves, we all want the same thing.
we ALL stand together - COYR
james, says...
8:33pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Oh dear oh dear another loss and for the first home game of the season barely 19,000 turning up - at least try and make an effort
Graham, Herts says...
8:57pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Chris wrote:Thank you Chris.
You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It's a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we're skint. It's times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let's look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we'll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.
The still sweet voice of reason
tommac, london says...
9:05pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Lowe would be better leading a hockey team, Wilde as a coach driver driving the team bus and Cowan as a scout leader, under Lowe's supervision, of course.
Relegation,administr
ation and Siants Web closure all looming! BRING BACK HONE
Relegation,administr
ation and Siants Web closure all looming! BRING BACK HONE
HAPPY CHAPPY, ON TOP OF THE WORLD says...
9:06pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Denzil the Neanderthal, Chilworth/Romsey wrote:Denzil "THE DIPSTICK" Neanderthal
Why was Kevin Phillips sold? Please remind me and tell me how we invested the money.
The money was spent on nice new cars and holidays for everyone on the board, just take a look in the club carpark.
It is clear to see if you are bottom at Xmas ADMINISTRATION is a CERT.
Like I have been telling you for weeks your going down the plughole and you deserve it for being so bigheaded for many years.
Now I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Alan Rogers, Church Crookham says...
9:07pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Ok so Surman is hacked off . Rudi can do a job at left back as we have seen . Most notable game was when he replaced Gareth Bale at Wolves and we won 6-0. He deserves a chance to prove his attitude and commitment (or lack of ) to the club who pay him such high wages.
Costa Baz, says...
9:13pm Sat 16 Aug 08
The problem as I see it, is not turning early possession and pressure into enough goals to put the game out of reach. Being stuck out here I have to rely on the "experts" such as David Armstrong, plus what I can glean from the commentary and based on the 1st two games we've started brightly but then tired. At Cardiff we tired after about 25 minutes, so to get through the 1st half on top today, was an improvement. Hopefully the fitness will improve so that they can play the fast tempo, in their faces football for 90 minutes, but that is unlikely, given the competetive nature of this league, plus they won't be playing on perfect pitches every week (wait for the heavy pitches in the winter to sap all energy). Therefore they either need to learn defend better or score more goals whilst on top. Easy when you say it quickly, but that is what the game is about. You get nothing for being gallant losers.
Failing that I can envisage many teams coming to SMS and just putting up the shutters and picking us off in the 2nd half. In fact I can see them letting us run ourselves silly at their place as well, before picking us off.
Lessons must be learnt as despite everything there is still hope.
Failing that I can envisage many teams coming to SMS and just putting up the shutters and picking us off in the 2nd half. In fact I can see them letting us run ourselves silly at their place as well, before picking us off.
Lessons must be learnt as despite everything there is still hope.
the totton scrutineer, TOTTON says...
9:31pm Sat 16 Aug 08
I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places.
BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSE
BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSE
Chris, Canterbury says...
9:36pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Graham wrote:You're welcome, Graham.
Chris wrote:Thank you Chris.
You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It's a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we're skint. It's times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let's look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we'll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.
The still sweet voice of reason
Glad there's others out there.
LOWE & WILDE OUT, says...
9:38pm Sat 16 Aug 08
No hiding for Lowe and Wilde when this goes wrong AND IT WILL.
The PR for the dutch and the youngsters has been huge and its all going to backfire.
Lowe and Wilde how about you put your hands in your pocket.
The PR for the dutch and the youngsters has been huge and its all going to backfire.
Lowe and Wilde how about you put your hands in your pocket.
Ex Pat Fan Madeira, Madeira says...
9:50pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Graham wrote:Oh Wow!
Chris wrote: You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It\\\'s a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we\\\'re skint. It\\\'s times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let\\\'s look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we\\\'ll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.Thank you Chris. The still sweet voice of reason
Perhaps a few words in the next programme notes Chris!
We do have faith and we do want the team to go onward and upward-but being a realist what you are hoping for will not come to pass.You say about young experienced players coming through and keeping the youngsters together etc etc.Do you think a 23 year old centre back an U 21 International would fit the bill for a snip at 1.5 Mill?
Yes this is what Stoke have just achieved-watch him be their player of the year and worth 8 mill plus?
Just get real with our club-there is no three year plan-as soon as the youngsters show any sort of form they will be sold to the highest bidder.
This will not change whilst the present regime is in place.
The only serious offer received for the club was by SISU-and suddenly there was Lowe and Wilde screaming about this Hedge fund how bad they were etc etc.
Coventry now top of the league courstey of SISU-we are near bottom.
Where would you rather be Chris?
What about a wager where each club will be at the end of the season?
Or make it a double-Leicester to gain promotion as well.
Do not take this the wrong way-I am a committed Saints fan going back many years-and I hate what is happening to my club.
Ex Pat Fan Madeira, Madeira says...
9:51pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Graham wrote:Oh Wow!
Chris wrote: You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It\\\\\\\'s a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we\\\\\\\'re skint. It\\\\\\\'s times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let\\\\\\\'s look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we\\\\\\\'ll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.Thank you Chris. The still sweet voice of reason
Perhaps a few words in the next programme notes Chris!
We do have faith and we do want the team to go onward and upward-but being a realist what you are hoping for will not come to pass.You say about young experienced players coming through and keeping the youngsters together etc etc.Do you think a 23 year old centre back an U 21 International would fit the bill for a snip at 1.5 Mill?
Yes this is what Stoke have just achieved-watch him be their player of the year and worth 8 mill plus?
Just get real with our club-there is no three year plan-as soon as the youngsters show any sort of form they will be sold to the highest bidder.
This will not change whilst the present regime is in place.
The only serious offer received for the club was by SISU-and suddenly there was Lowe and Wilde screaming about this Hedge fund how bad they were etc etc.
Coventry now top of the league courstey of SISU-we are near bottom.
Where would you rather be Chris?
What about a wager where each club will be at the end of the season?
Or make it a double-Leicester to gain promotion as well.
Do not take this the wrong way-I am a committed Saints fan going back many years-and I hate what is happening to my club.
Tracey, Southampton says...
10:00pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Ex Pat Fan Madeira wrote:Crouch also rejected the SISU offer. SISU was rejected because they failed to answer questions, inparticular questions concerning long term funding for the team and the bulk of posters on these forums were also against SISUs offer.
Graham wrote:Oh Wow! Perhaps a few words in the next programme notes Chris! We do have faith and we do want the team to go onward and upward-but being a realist what you are hoping for will not come to pass.You say about young experienced players coming through and keeping the youngsters together etc etc.Do you think a 23 year old centre back an U 21 International would fit the bill for a snip at 1.5 Mill? Yes this is what Stoke have just achieved-watch him be their player of the year and worth 8 mill plus? Just get real with our club-there is no three year plan-as soon as the youngsters show any sort of form they will be sold to the highest bidder. This will not change whilst the present regime is in place. The only serious offer received for the club was by SISU-and suddenly there was Lowe and Wilde screaming about this Hedge fund how bad they were etc etc. Coventry now top of the league courstey of SISU-we are near bottom. Where would you rather be Chris? What about a wager where each club will be at the end of the season? Or make it a double-Leicester to gain promotion as well. Do not take this the wrong way-I am a committed Saints fan going back many years-and I hate what is happening to my club.Chris wrote: You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It\\\\\\\'s a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we\\\\\\\'re skint. It\\\\\\\'s times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let\\\\\\\'s look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we\\\\\\\'ll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.Thank you Chris. The still sweet voice of reason
Ex Pat Fan Madeira, says...
10:14pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Tracey wrote:Tracey It does nt matter who rejected what-Lowe has also failed to re assure fans on HIS long term funding plans.
Ex Pat Fan Madeira wrote:Crouch also rejected the SISU offer. SISU was rejected because they failed to answer questions, inparticular questions concerning long term funding for the team and the bulk of posters on these forums were also against SISUs offer.Graham wrote:Oh Wow! Perhaps a few words in the next programme notes Chris! We do have faith and we do want the team to go onward and upward-but being a realist what you are hoping for will not come to pass.You say about young experienced players coming through and keeping the youngsters together etc etc.Do you think a 23 year old centre back an U 21 International would fit the bill for a snip at 1.5 Mill? Yes this is what Stoke have just achieved-watch him be their player of the year and worth 8 mill plus? Just get real with our club-there is no three year plan-as soon as the youngsters show any sort of form they will be sold to the highest bidder. This will not change whilst the present regime is in place. The only serious offer received for the club was by SISU-and suddenly there was Lowe and Wilde screaming about this Hedge fund how bad they were etc etc. Coventry now top of the league courstey of SISU-we are near bottom. Where would you rather be Chris? What about a wager where each club will be at the end of the season? Or make it a double-Leicester to gain promotion as well. Do not take this the wrong way-I am a committed Saints fan going back many years-and I hate what is happening to my club.Chris wrote: You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re skint. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.Thank you Chris. The still sweet voice of reason
All I know is that Coventry are near the top of the league-their fans are happy with the long term aims of SISU.
Just wish SISU were in charge at SMS-not the sleazy crowd we have now.
Rob Ch, soton says...
11:16pm Sat 16 Aug 08
Saints terrible performance since they moved to the new stadium leads me to conclude the ground is "cursed", many will scoff.
Fans do not realise they are sitting in a giant cemetery. The site was once an ancient Saxon burial ground, Soton university were called in to excavate the area, many graves were found and bones were then removed to Hollybank cemetery, at the far end, its all on record.
A priest was called in to consecrate the ground afterwards, a Rev Andrew Park, he subsequently died in a unexplained car crash six months later.
To build on a burial ground brings nothing but bad luck, no one likes to be disturbed in their final resting place, just sitting in that stadium gives me the creeps, not just the standard of football either, or the sight of Low, especially when the light is going and you see the flitting shadows dancing on the
turf.
I do not know what the answer is, sadly ?
I think the spirits want it back as a sacred burial site, and the way, the once mighty saints have fallen it wont be long before it returns to such.
Fans do not realise they are sitting in a giant cemetery. The site was once an ancient Saxon burial ground, Soton university were called in to excavate the area, many graves were found and bones were then removed to Hollybank cemetery, at the far end, its all on record.
A priest was called in to consecrate the ground afterwards, a Rev Andrew Park, he subsequently died in a unexplained car crash six months later.
To build on a burial ground brings nothing but bad luck, no one likes to be disturbed in their final resting place, just sitting in that stadium gives me the creeps, not just the standard of football either, or the sight of Low, especially when the light is going and you see the flitting shadows dancing on the
turf.
I do not know what the answer is, sadly ?
I think the spirits want it back as a sacred burial site, and the way, the once mighty saints have fallen it wont be long before it returns to such.
Chris, Canterbury says...
1:14am Sun 17 Aug 08
Ex Pat Fan Madeira wrote:Ex-Pat,
Graham wrote:Oh Wow!
Chris wrote: You lot, with the exception of optimist, are an abomination. Two games against two sides tipped do well, one of which tipped to win the league, and already you moan. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s a new team, new structure and they have lost by one goal in each game. Our new structure is exciting, forward looking and potentially exciting. Most of all, however, it is boldness borne out of necessity: we\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re skint. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s times like this when a club needs fans and when fans should become true fans. Have faith - I have and will remain positive - this club needs time to build, develop and go forward. Let\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s look at this realistically: mid table or a season free from a relegation fight and keeping the majority of this talented young side would represent success. Then, over the following two seasons, they should push on, looking for promotion. I see this as a three-year plan. Give these guys (mangers and players) time as it will work. When it does, we will have a great structure in place with a production line of young talent that will help us attract the odd class players we would need to have a side capable of holding its own in the prem. It will become self-financing and will enable us then to settle and progress in the top league. If we can sell a few more of the deadwood and bring in a couple of players to add strength and experience in the areas we need, then we\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ll be fine. I hope to God that nobody booed the team off. Come on JP, come on Saints, but, most of all, come on YOU fans.Thank you Chris. The still sweet voice of reason
Perhaps a few words in the next programme notes Chris!
We do have faith and we do want the team to go onward and upward-but being a realist what you are hoping for will not come to pass.You say about young experienced players coming through and keeping the youngsters together etc etc.Do you think a 23 year old centre back an U 21 International would fit the bill for a snip at 1.5 Mill?
Yes this is what Stoke have just achieved-watch him be their player of the year and worth 8 mill plus?
Just get real with our club-there is no three year plan-as soon as the youngsters show any sort of form they will be sold to the highest bidder.
This will not change whilst the present regime is in place.
The only serious offer received for the club was by SISU-and suddenly there was Lowe and Wilde screaming about this Hedge fund how bad they were etc etc.
Coventry now top of the league courstey of SISU-we are near bottom.
Where would you rather be Chris?
What about a wager where each club will be at the end of the season?
Or make it a double-Leicester to gain promotion as well.
Do not take this the wrong way-I am a committed Saints fan going back many years-and I hate what is happening to my club.
No problem, I don't mind you disagreeing. I am not suggesting only true fans will agree with my earlier post, it's the unrealistic criticism I have a problem with.
To answer your points:
I mentioned keeping the majority of the squad, when you're skint financial sacrifices are inevitable. Hopefully we can keep the core intact. Like you, I am not happy at seeing Andrew Davies go. I am sure, given the option, the club would rather have sold Euell and Skacel and kept Davies. What the club wants to do and what the club can do is, in the medium term, dictated by who a club wants rather than who Saints don't want.
As has been said, Crouch refused SISU along with Lowe and Wilde. Your belief that accepting the SISU deal would have solved all our problems is woefully misguided. I am glad it was thrown out.
Cutting through the financial implications... Hedge funds exist to make money: they are short-term investments. That is not the right strategy for running a football club.
Coventry are top of the league after two games. Bolton are top the Prem now. Fancy a friendly wager they'll stay there?
I shall tell you, Ex-Pat, where I'd rather be: following a side that is developing a long-term plan for surviving, progressing and succeeding, and playing attacking exciting football.
I will happily have a friendly wager:
- I think Leicester will come back up. How much that has to do with Pearson I don't know, and quite what bearing that has on this situation I don't know either.
- As for Cov, they may finish ahead of us this season. Do I think they'll go up? No. Do I think they have a top-class academy with the potential to create a club that can grow as much as Saints? No.
Keep keeping the faith, Ex-Pat.
Chris
Overseas Saint, Hong Kong says...
2:26am Sun 17 Aug 08
I just cannot understand the team selection by JP. There were no attackers on the bench in comparison to Birmingham's 3. This is not ambitious football & they were all to cover for an injury to Killer. The young lads are talented & keen but there is just not enough experience in the side. As soon as Birmingham pushed up a gear, unfortunately it was boys against men. We need a fine balance in the team. I do not doubt JP is a good coach, but I find myself loss for words in his team selection.
Keep up the good work boys!
Keep up the good work boys!
Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:19am Sun 17 Aug 08
Surely there must be a few players out there who were released in the summer that could come down for a season on mediocre money to plug the gaps? We could have done with a lot more muscle yesterday, can't understand why Wotton didn't come on to be honest.
HAPPY CHAPPY, UEFA CUP QUALIFIERS says...
9:19am Sun 17 Aug 08
the totton scrutineer wrote:The only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE
I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSE
And I am just
LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
true saint, forever says...
9:50am Sun 17 Aug 08
Saints should have gone down last year and these embarresing results would be fewer. The fact is we cannot compete at that level with what we have in the squad. By the skin of our teeth we stayed up last year and now we are going to have to face another season of humiliation.
I would like to have seen us go down, forcing the shareholders to take what they could and letting someone else step i n and rebuild.
This team has had it and this year has but us behing another year, all those celebrating last yearf and running on the pitch...what a sorry bunch of fools you are
I would like to have seen us go down, forcing the shareholders to take what they could and letting someone else step i n and rebuild.
This team has had it and this year has but us behing another year, all those celebrating last yearf and running on the pitch...what a sorry bunch of fools you are
Sherborne_Saint, Sherborne says...
10:28am Sun 17 Aug 08
Remember that we have played 2 good, well organised teams. With improving fitness, better understanding of the formation and a little more sharpness in front of goal, I think that we could pull some of the other teams in this league apart with our movement. I remain optimistic!!!
Denzil, Chilworth says...
11:31am Sun 17 Aug 08
LOWE OUT and take your dutch boyfriends with you.
Jimmy, Sunny Soton The Brighter Side Of The South says...
11:39am Sun 17 Aug 08
I can understand the supporters frustrations, and the ignorant comments made by the half wits down the road. But by know means on both occasions was Jan and the boys played off the park, the team is new and young and still gelling in a higher standard of football we have played two of the better teams in the championship and have only lost through bad luck and inexperience. On both accounts this will sorted in the next couple of games you make your own luck in football and saints are playing decent stuff and then the luck will come.
Wise up people know one ever said we were going to win this league, stay positive and get behide the team and we will get what we deserve, Negativity gets your know where in any walks of life.
Bring on Derby, Come on you Reds
Wise up people know one ever said we were going to win this league, stay positive and get behide the team and we will get what we deserve, Negativity gets your know where in any walks of life.
Bring on Derby, Come on you Reds
True Blue, Fareham says...
12:14pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:Truly amazing how parrots can quickly immitate what humans say.
LOWE OUT and take your dutch boyfriends with you.
saint mike, southampton says...
12:19pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Denzil the Neanderthal, Chilworth/Romsey wrote:
Why was Kevin Phillips sold? Please remind me and tell me how we invested the money.
I hope Mr Lowe is pleased he let Kevin Phillips go. I suppose the money was used to line the directors of leisure holding pockets.
We let in to many goals and he wants to sell defender Andrew Davis another quick profit
Must be favourites for relegation unless Rupert Lowe goes.
Looks like Alan Hansen was right you never win anythink with kids.
Saint Mike.
PS Could end up Pompey Mike unless Lowe goes................
..................
Roy, Southampton says...
12:41pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Since we shall not be in any league for a lot longer, the ground will be able to be used for flats...Just in time for the credit crunch to be over!
Robbie Robertson, says...
1:59pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Bring on Derby, Come on you Reds
but aren't Derby another well organised team, who will take a boys team apart? Work out how much ground you have to make up by waiting 10 games before finding points. That sits you squarely in relegation territory.
Blind optimism is dangerous. It allows the board to do as they please, and to hell with the team. I qouoted this a week ago. Selling Davies is a dangerous move. Running a club to make profit is unreasonable, and is likely to result in relegation. Sitting 23rd in the table will hit ticket sales. THis will make the financial state worse. Good football needs to be backed up with results.
I see that the Pro-Lowe brigade still sit smugly and call anyone that disagrees with them a moron. Cheers lads. Never accuse anyone else of being blind. It will come back and bite you on the behind.
but aren't Derby another well organised team, who will take a boys team apart? Work out how much ground you have to make up by waiting 10 games before finding points. That sits you squarely in relegation territory.
Blind optimism is dangerous. It allows the board to do as they please, and to hell with the team. I qouoted this a week ago. Selling Davies is a dangerous move. Running a club to make profit is unreasonable, and is likely to result in relegation. Sitting 23rd in the table will hit ticket sales. THis will make the financial state worse. Good football needs to be backed up with results.
I see that the Pro-Lowe brigade still sit smugly and call anyone that disagrees with them a moron. Cheers lads. Never accuse anyone else of being blind. It will come back and bite you on the behind.
bored, says...
2:13pm Sun 17 Aug 08
HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten.
the totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes.
Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts.
Maybe the gloating days will be short lived.
LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
True Blue, Fareham says...
3:38pm Sun 17 Aug 08
bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well!
HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose.
Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home.
I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week.
I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas.
I'll post a reminder for you.
leesaint, behindbluelines says...
3:40pm Sun 17 Aug 08
If I was a skate I would look at my own rubbish club how sad can you be. Giving Phillips stick was stupid it was bound to make him more determined.
We played well first half and start of second. John should have had that in the goal at the start of the second. weak at full back especialy right side and physicaly weak. We also need to learn how to hold on to a lead. Bullied off the ball and often nieve we need to learn very first. We need to have some experience on the bench to solidify the team when we are up against it.
We played well first half and start of second. John should have had that in the goal at the start of the second. weak at full back especialy right side and physicaly weak. We also need to learn how to hold on to a lead. Bullied off the ball and often nieve we need to learn very first. We need to have some experience on the bench to solidify the team when we are up against it.
Ben Durutti, Shirley says...
3:53pm Sun 17 Aug 08
True Blue wrote:The way I heard it Pompey were 10 minutes away from being taken to court by the Inland Revenue & so perhaps your smugness is ill-considered?
bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I'll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Denzil, Chilworth says...
3:57pm Sun 17 Aug 08
True Blue wrote:You can talk, this site is packed with skates having a dig when we lose, angry bitter men the lot of ya after the decades spent in our shadow.
bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I'll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Great result today, bottom of the league I'm just...
LOVIN' IT LOVIN'IT LOVIN' IT
Denzil, Chilworth says...
4:01pm Sun 17 Aug 08
HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:Must really annoy you then as nearly every time we play we kick the crap out of you. Bottom of the league with Man Utd up next,
the totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
LOVIN' IT LOVIN' IT LOVIN' IT
bored, says...
4:43pm Sun 17 Aug 08
True Blue wrote:Not sad at all!
bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I'll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Not the only thing in football to cheer me up!
A few more woeful performances and your fans might be begging West Ham to take Harry back!
Keep selling your decent players and buying replacements from Championship clubs and they might start questioning the owner!
And don't forget the potential for fallout from the dealings with Harry's favoutite agent!
No, not sad.
Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat.
Especially when they can't take it when it's returned with interest.
Oh, and by the way, you and 'Happy Clappy' could have popped on a train to London, just over an hour away, and gone to see your team play for real.
Like real fans do.
HAPPY CHAPPY, IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE says...
6:46pm Sun 17 Aug 08
bored wrote:I can understand why you call youruself BORED, I would be if I followed your team, they are TOTAL SH1TE afterall.
True Blue wrote:Not sad at all! Not the only thing in football to cheer me up! A few more woeful performances and your fans might be begging West Ham to take Harry back! Keep selling your decent players and buying replacements from Championship clubs and they might start questioning the owner! And don't forget the potential for fallout from the dealings with Harry's favoutite agent! No, not sad. Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat. Especially when they can't take it when it's returned with interest. Oh, and by the way, you and 'Happy Clappy' could have popped on a train to London, just over an hour away, and gone to see your team play for real. Like real fans do.bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I'll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It's all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Whereas I follow the only Southcoast team in the PREMIER LEAGUE and by the end of this season probably the only team in top two leagues because your team is going down
THE PLUGHOLE I cannot wait and when you do will be
LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Bored, says...
7:50pm Sun 17 Aug 08
HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:Is that really the best you could do?
bored wrote:I can understand why you call youruself BORED, I would be if I followed your team, they are TOTAL SH1TE afterall. Whereas I follow the only Southcoast team in the PREMIER LEAGUE and by the end of this season probably the only team in top two leagues because your team is going down THE PLUGHOLE I cannot wait and when you do will be LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITTrue Blue wrote:Not sad at all! Not the only thing in football to cheer me up! A few more woeful performances and your fans might be begging West Ham to take Harry back! Keep selling your decent players and buying replacements from Championship clubs and they might start questioning the owner! And don\\\\\\\'t forget the potential for fallout from the dealings with Harry\\\\\\\'s favoutite agent! No, not sad. Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat. Especially when they can\\\\\\\'t take it when it\\\\\\\'s returned with interest. Oh, and by the way, you and \\\\\\\'Happy Clappy\\\\\\\' could have popped on a train to London, just over an hour away, and gone to see your team play for real. Like real fans do.bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I\\\\\\\'ll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It\\\\\\\'s all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
Let me reiterate:
Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat. Especially when they can't take it when it's returned with interest.
Not bored of my team, who are coming on quite nicely thank you.
Maybe you are bored of watching your team. There must be some reason why you don't go to see them live.
I also notice that you suggest Portsmouth will be the only South coast team in the top 2 leagues at the end of the season.
I tend to disagree, but why do you not suggest you will be in the top division?
Did the 4-0 thrashing worry you?
Is it just a Freudian slip?
nick, bournemouth says...
10:12pm Sun 17 Aug 08
having watched most of the preseason games and only listend(i work sats) to weekend matches i am still optimistic for the season.
We have just played two of the best teams in the league and are still finding our feet with a young team COYR
We have just played two of the best teams in the league and are still finding our feet with a young team COYR
AD, Itchen stand every game says...
11:04pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Here's a thought, what if the league finishes 1st Birmingham, 2nd Saints, 3rd Cardiff. Point is, no one truly knows who the form teams are until 10+ games. Saints have played teams in 3rd and 6th, Coventry have played teams in 19th and 22nd. Now Saints may struggle, they may be mid table or they may push for promotion but it is too early to tell yet. The football I watched was good passing football and we learned a lesson in the second half and we need that 1st win. I think if we carry on as we are things will brighten up. By the way QPR were the league favourites before the first match kicked off and after 2 matches are in a lowly 15th place only 3 points above Saints. Fans don't be silly and make too quick a judgment on leadue position. Leave your negative comments for after the 10th game if we are still down the bottom.
True Blue, Fareham says...
11:40pm Sun 17 Aug 08
Bored wrote:May I remind you that although The Echo, whose site this is, are based in Southampton, it has a wider distribution area.
HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:Is that really the best you could do? Let me reiterate: Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat. Especially when they can't take it when it's returned with interest. Not bored of my team, who are coming on quite nicely thank you. Maybe you are bored of watching your team. There must be some reason why you don't go to see them live. I also notice that you suggest Portsmouth will be the only South coast team in the top 2 leagues at the end of the season. I tend to disagree, but why do you not suggest you will be in the top division? Did the 4-0 thrashing worry you? Is it just a Freudian slip?bored wrote:I can understand why you call youruself BORED, I would be if I followed your team, they are TOTAL SH1TE afterall. Whereas I follow the only Southcoast team in the PREMIER LEAGUE and by the end of this season probably the only team in top two leagues because your team is going down THE PLUGHOLE I cannot wait and when you do will be LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITTrue Blue wrote:Not sad at all! Not the only thing in football to cheer me up! A few more woeful performances and your fans might be begging West Ham to take Harry back! Keep selling your decent players and buying replacements from Championship clubs and they might start questioning the owner! And don\\\\\\\'t forget the potential for fallout from the dealings with Harry\\\\\\\'s favoutite agent! No, not sad. Just bored of Portsmouth fans coming onto a Southampton based news site, clicking on Saints stories and posting abuse and/or trying to gloat. Especially when they can\\\\\\\'t take it when it\\\\\\\'s returned with interest. Oh, and by the way, you and \\\\\\\'Happy Clappy\\\\\\\' could have popped on a train to London, just over an hour away, and gone to see your team play for real. Like real fans do.bored wrote:Not just Bored, but Sad as well! How sad it must be, when the only thing is football that you have to cheer you up, is when your local Premier League team lose. Although they also play in Blue, I would advise you that Chelsea are a far better team than Birmingham, and were also playing at home. I doubt very much whether there are any Pompey fans that are demanding that Mr Gaydamak sells the club, that Mr Redknapp is sacked as manager, that various players are sold and that the supporters are arguing amongst themselves as to who they are going to blame this week. I do think you are right in your last sentence. I think your gloating days will be short lived. Check the situation at Christmas. I\\\\\\\'ll post a reminder for you.HAPPY CHAPPY wrote:At least we got 90 minutes into the season before we got beaten. It\\\\\\\'s all over for your lot after 27 minutes. Still, what do you expect if you let your best players go and replace them with Reading and Charlton relegation experts. Maybe the gloating days will be short lived. LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINITthe totton scrutineer wrote: I must confess I am beginning to wonder if TOTAL football will become TOTAL disaster.But we must suport these lads WIN OR LOSE they need it as it will be a very long season for them and us.I saw enough today to believe with more experience in the team we could go places. BUT WHY ARE WE SELLING EXPERIENCE? I thought for 45mins we shook em up and we need to play like that even when we go behind (as well as we did in the first half )SUPPORT THE LADS WIN OR LOSEThe only football you scums play is TOTAL SH1TE And I am just LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT
I can't recall saying that Pompey will be the only South Coast team in the top two leagues at the end of the season, but would not be surprised if it came about, because Saints supposed 'die hard fans' are not turning up.
I am 100% that, this time next year, Pompey will still be in the Premier League.
Did the 4-0 thrashing worry me? No, it did not!
Did I enjoy the 4-0 thrashing? No, I did not!
Perhaps you, as a masochist, enjoyed the beating you took at Cardiff, and the other one handed out by Birmingham at The New Delhi, but that is just your thing.
The Court Jester Crew, Southampton says...
12:22pm Mon 18 Aug 08
We were so pleased with the first 45 minutes there was not a lot to say at the halftime coffe break. Saints played well kept the Brummies out of the play almost for the full 45 minutes. Good passing to feet and nothing too complicated. Yes it was a shame John and Gillett did not score but we are a new team. We are sure that Derby will be another stern test for our young team but they will be nervous. If I was JP I would be concentrating on providing a fit team that can play for 90 minutes we faded fast in the last 20 minutes.
However why do we have to sell Andrew Davies? It seems maddness to sell a really good player.
Derby next followed by another stab at Birmingham. Maybe by the time we play Blackpool we can win even by 1 goal.
The muppet Portsmouth supporters on here to slag us should be ignored
However why do we have to sell Andrew Davies? It seems maddness to sell a really good player.
Derby next followed by another stab at Birmingham. Maybe by the time we play Blackpool we can win even by 1 goal.
The muppet Portsmouth supporters on here to slag us should be ignored
KEVIN PHILLIPS
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