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Michael Fialka still wants to buy Saints
1:30pm Wednesday 1st July 2009
MICHAEL Fialka has insisted his bid to buy Saints is still on.
Despite key members of the Pinnacle Group pulling out yesterday, the 32-year-old this morning said the deal had not collapsed.
“It’s all up in the air at the moment,” he told the Jewish Chronicle.
“The reality is that there are a few issues with the Football League. We’ve had a bit of a standoff as we would only consider a deal if the penalty was 10 points rather than 15.
“I need confirmation. Once it goes through then everyone will be happy.”
Fialka also revealed that, should the takeover go through, he would “end up with one third of the club and be the main director on a four-man board.”
The Football League has told the Daily Echo there is no truth in Fialka's latest claims of a potential 15 point deduction.
A spokesman once again reiterated that there is no threat of further point deductions.
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Saint Chufty, Farnborough says...
12:36pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintjak, Southampton says...
12:37pm Wed 1 Jul 09
nomore, town says...
12:37pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Ozmosis, Southampton says...
12:39pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saint-barnard, Eastleigh says...
12:40pm Wed 1 Jul 09
suttonsaint, Cheam says...
12:42pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Southampton boy, Southampton says...
12:42pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Mr fialka has said he has a problem with the FL but the FL has no idea of what he is talking about?? 10 or 15 points deduction is not the problem now the problem now is we have no team and no manager all is falling apart and it's all down to Mr Fialka taken to long to do the deal, what I do not understand is he know when he started that there would be a deduction of points??
Some on you Swiss
S/W will-user may be that should of been just "USER"
normsted, puybossard says...
12:42pm Wed 1 Jul 09
The Director, London says...
12:43pm Wed 1 Jul 09
At least the "Foreign Investors" are conducting they discussions in a dignified way!!
Saintan, Southampton says...
12:43pm Wed 1 Jul 09
you had the chance to take us over
you dragged your feet - you've now left us in more trouble
you're a disgrace
Bring Back The Dell, Southampton says...
12:44pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Snuggle saint, Southampton says...
12:46pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Will you agree to do the same if you dont buy it?
FL have agreed its just 10 points but your sticking point is you have less money in your consortium than I have in my trouser pocket.
Put up or shut up I think now eh
And no offence meant but do we really get our stories from the Jewish Cronicle ! ! !
WhatNext, Southampton says...
12:46pm Wed 1 Jul 09
kinkyboots70, harefield says...
12:47pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintjak, Southampton says...
12:49pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Lets hope one of the foreign backers comes through
SW - Bank-need (a miracle with people like Fialka making bids)
w1lkins822, basingstoke says...
12:49pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Ben Durutti, Shirley says...
12:51pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Michael Fialka? Michael Fiasco more like!
w1lkins822, basingstoke says...
12:52pm Wed 1 Jul 09
martina danby, says...
12:52pm Wed 1 Jul 09
this clown looks just like one of the naughty goblins on that show. the goblins are called gobbo and sly, i'm not sure which one, but he is a dead ringer for one of them.
not helpful at all i know, just an observation.
up the saints.
BasingstokeSaint, Basingstoke says...
12:52pm Wed 1 Jul 09
season ticket holder, totton says...
12:55pm Wed 1 Jul 09
I wonder who they will be playing
Whiteley supporter, Fareham says...
12:55pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintjak, Southampton says...
12:57pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Snuggle saint wrote:Yeah maybe God will bless him with the money...
I will eat my left bollock on Friday at 5pm at the entrance to the megastore if you buy the club by then. Will you agree to do the same if you dont buy it? FL have agreed its just 10 points but your sticking point is you have less money in your consortium than I have in my trouser pocket. Put up or shut up I think now eh And no offence meant but do we really get our stories from the Jewish Cronicle ! ! !
wayborn, sholing says...
12:58pm Wed 1 Jul 09
truelysaints, Nairn says...
12:59pm Wed 1 Jul 09
kinkyboots70, harefield says...
12:59pm Wed 1 Jul 09
montecristosaint, Poole says...
1:01pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Southampton boy wrote:Im beginning to think this guy Fialka has a screw loose.Ive just been on to the football League and they have confirmed that they have no intention of applying any further sanction against the club.
Please Please stand down let the othes have a go you had yours and have failed to give us FANs any hope. Mr fialka has said he has a problem with the FL but the FL has no idea of what he is talking about?? 10 or 15 points deduction is not the problem now the problem now is we have no team and no manager all is falling apart and it's all down to Mr Fialka taken to long to do the deal, what I do not understand is he know when he started that there would be a deduction of points?? Some on you Swiss S/W will-user may be that should of been just "USER"
Fialka, assuming that you read these posts which I m sure you do why dont you ring the FL and ask them to send you an email copnfirming what I have just said.
But as we both know you are a total waste of time and the only question I have for you is why. You dont have the money youre not credible from a business experience point of view and you wont reveal who your backers are. Questions are now being asked of Begbies Traynor as to why you were given exclusivity when other far more substantial bidders were ignored.
The worst of your crimes where we fans are concerned is that you completely misled our own living legend le Tiss into supporting your bid. Your little game is well and truly over big ears..
Invidia, southampton says...
1:03pm Wed 1 Jul 09
East End Saint, Bethnal Green says...
1:06pm Wed 1 Jul 09
SW= fall soon
oh dear
saintrooty, Gosport says...
1:06pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Dear Mr Root
Thank you for your email. Due to the volume of communications a standard response is necessary.
To clarify, the sporting sanction, i.e. points deduction has been made in accordance with League regulations, which are put in place by the clubs themselves – The League merely administers them. An appeal is allowed with a specified period.
When a club suffers an insolvency event, e.g. administration, their share in The League is liable to be withdrawn under the terms of our Articles of Association. In other words their membership comes to an end. However, because we are in the business of trying to keep clubs alive, the Board operates a policy within the provisions of the Articles which suspends the withdrawal of a club’s share in order to give them a second chance – this is entirely in keeping with the law of the land.
Recent arbitration proceedings confirm The Football League has the right to impose conditions on a company that sees to join The League in this way. These conditions reflect the need to protect the integrity of the competition by ensuring that no club should be able to gain an advantage over its rivals by not paying its debts. Owners of football clubs will change over time, but the ‘club’ remains the same. It is the club which secures a competitive advantage from wiping out debt through insolvency proceedings, and therefore, it is only right that it is the club, regardless as to the identity of the new owners, that is made subject to any conditions.
The League has a responsibility to ensure all League clubs start the season - we would also clarify that throughout our discussions no conditions other than a waiver in regard to sporting sanctions have ever been raised with us as a major issue.
Patricia Brown
Customer Service
The Football League
www.football-league.
co.uk
ShakeyWiffles, St Denys says...
1:07pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Bitterne Park Tim, says...
1:07pm Wed 1 Jul 09
But leave the guy alone! If somehow he does have the cash and can buy the club... let him!!!!!
We is in the Sh1t!
Oldham Saint, Oldham says...
1:07pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Propercynic, says...
1:07pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintinsomerset, wells says...
1:09pm Wed 1 Jul 09
"Throughout our discussions no conditions other than a waiver in regard to sporting sanctions have ever been raised with us as a major issue.
"The Pinnacle Group has been in receipt of a contract from the League for over a week now. To proceed, all it needed to do was to provide clarification in regard to funding and sign the contract."
....regard to funding.end of no money.walter mitty,billy liar,mike fialka.
ExpatRomseySaint, Brentwood, Essex says...
1:09pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintrooty, Gosport says...
1:10pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Dear Mr Root
Thank you for your email. Due to the volume of communications a standard response is necessary.
To clarify, the sporting sanction, i.e. points deduction has been made in accordance with League regulations, which are put in place by the clubs themselves – The League merely administers them. An appeal is allowed with a specified period.
When a club suffers an insolvency event, e.g. administration, their share in The League is liable to be withdrawn under the terms of our Articles of Association. In other words their membership comes to an end. However, because we are in the business of trying to keep clubs alive, the Board operates a policy within the provisions of the Articles which suspends the withdrawal of a club’s share in order to give them a second chance – this is entirely in keeping with the law of the land.
Recent arbitration proceedings confirm The Football League has the right to impose conditions on a company that sees to join The League in this way. These conditions reflect the need to protect the integrity of the competition by ensuring that no club should be able to gain an advantage over its rivals by not paying its debts. Owners of football clubs will change over time, but the ‘club’ remains the same. It is the club which secures a competitive advantage from wiping out debt through insolvency proceedings, and therefore, it is only right that it is the club, regardless as to the identity of the new owners, that is made subject to any conditions.
The League has a responsibility to ensure all League clubs start the season - we would also clarify that throughout our discussions no conditions other than a waiver in regard to sporting sanctions have ever been raised with us as a major issue.
Patricia Brown
Customer Service
The Football League
www.football-league.
co.uk
SW: deal-pass lol
stmarysmush, soton says...
1:11pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Common as Saints, Southampton says...
1:11pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saints since '57, Nursling says...
1:13pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Thank you for your email.
Derby County’s situation occurred prior to the introduction of Sporting Sanction regulations and the members of The League Board are elected by the Clubs themselves.
To clarify, the sporting sanction, i.e. points deduction has been made in accordance with League regulations, which are put in place by the clubs themselves – The League merely administers them. An appeal is allowed with a specified period.
When a club suffers an insolvency event, e.g. administration, their share in The League is liable to be withdrawn under the terms of our Articles of Association. In other words their membership comes to an end. However, because we are in the business of trying to keep clubs alive, the Board operates a policy within the provisions of the Articles which suspends the withdrawal of a club’s share in order to give them a second chance – this is entirely in keeping with the law of the land.
Recent arbitration proceedings confirm The Football League has the right to impose conditions on a company that sees to join The League in this way. These conditions reflect the need to protect the integrity of the competition by ensuring that no club should be able to gain an advantage over its rivals by not paying its debts. Owners of football clubs will change over time, but the ‘club’ remains the same. It is the club which secures a competitive advantage from wiping out debt through insolvency proceedings, and therefore, it is only right that it is the club, regardless as to the identity of the new owners, that is made subject to any conditions.
The League has a responsibility to ensure all League clubs start the season - we would also clarify that throughout our discussions no conditions other than a waiver in regard to sporting sanctions have ever been raised with us as a major issue.
Patricia Brown
Customer Service
The Football League
Patrick80's, Southampton says...
1:15pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Bye Bye GOB Sh!**
Snooky, Totton says...
1:16pm Wed 1 Jul 09
We have lost 2 players in pinicles exclusivity period but do you honestly think they would have stayed in League 1 with championship and Premiership football on offer?
How have some Saints fans turned on Matty too? I'd still love him to be our chairman, he's Southampton through and through. We'd probably already be regulars in League 1 without Matts genius on the field so you could kiss the memorys of a F.A cup final away.
It was Tony Lynham who told us there was only 1 backer which has now been revealed as a consortium and it looks like Fialka isn't the one thats pulled out from pinnicle so be greatful he's trying to save the club! 3 consortiums are better than 2.
This deal will go to the wire because the more chance banks have of losing their money completely the more chance it will be sold cheaper. It seems that considering most of us only know what the Echo chooses to tell us, we all seem to have a huge opinion base on anger and frustration. If we do get docked extra points, depending on how many we could already be looking at League 2 football next year! Does anyone trust the crooked football league, lets ask The once proud club called Luton shall we?
Glad i got that off my chest.
SomersetSaint, Yeovil says...
1:17pm Wed 1 Jul 09
John Gillham, Darwen says...
1:19pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Lorenzo, Arboleas Spain says...
1:21pm Wed 1 Jul 09
wraggster, isle of wight says...
1:22pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Snooky wrote:Here we go another one who definately
I do hope that anyone planning to put their name and money to our club doesn't read the comments of some of us Saints supporters. I have to say if it was me planning to part with a small fortune to rescue the club and I suddenly got turned upon i would stick 2 fingers up and walk away. I was one of the money collectors on the final day of the season and some of the fans had a problem putting 5 Quid in lets not forget Pinnicle parted with 5oo,ooo. (Lets also not forget some people had a problem even buying a ticket)!!! We have lost 2 players in pinicles exclusivity period but do you honestly think they would have stayed in League 1 with championship and Premiership football on offer? How have some Saints fans turned on Matty too? I'd still love him to be our chairman, he's Southampton through and through. We'd probably already be regulars in League 1 without Matts genius on the field so you could kiss the memorys of a F.A cup final away. It was Tony Lynham who told us there was only 1 backer which has now been revealed as a consortium and it looks like Fialka isn't the one thats pulled out from pinnicle so be greatful he's trying to save the club! 3 consortiums are better than 2. This deal will go to the wire because the more chance banks have of losing their money completely the more chance it will be sold cheaper. It seems that considering most of us only know what the Echo chooses to tell us, we all seem to have a huge opinion base on anger and frustration. If we do get docked extra points, depending on how many we could already be looking at League 2 football next year! Does anyone trust the crooked football league, lets ask The once proud club called Luton shall we? Glad i got that off my chest.
know's Pinnacle paid
1/2 million
Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 says...
1:25pm Wed 1 Jul 09
THEKILLER, SOUTHAMPTON says...
1:26pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Can't can you ?
stmarysmush, soton says...
1:31pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Snooky wrote:Kiss the memory of the Cup Final goodbye ????????????????????
I do hope that anyone planning to put their name and money to our club doesn't read the comments of some of us Saints supporters. I have to say if it was me planning to part with a small fortune to rescue the club and I suddenly got turned upon i would stick 2 fingers up and walk away. I was one of the money collectors on the final day of the season and some of the fans had a problem putting 5 Quid in lets not forget Pinnicle parted with 5oo,ooo. (Lets also not forget some people had a problem even buying a ticket)!!! We have lost 2 players in pinicles exclusivity period but do you honestly think they would have stayed in League 1 with championship and Premiership football on offer? How have some Saints fans turned on Matty too? I'd still love him to be our chairman, he's Southampton through and through. We'd probably already be regulars in League 1 without Matts genius on the field so you could kiss the memorys of a F.A cup final away. It was Tony Lynham who told us there was only 1 backer which has now been revealed as a consortium and it looks like Fialka isn't the one thats pulled out from pinnicle so be greatful he's trying to save the club! 3 consortiums are better than 2. This deal will go to the wire because the more chance banks have of losing their money completely the more chance it will be sold cheaper. It seems that considering most of us only know what the Echo chooses to tell us, we all seem to have a huge opinion base on anger and frustration. If we do get docked extra points, depending on how many we could already be looking at League 2 football next year! Does anyone trust the crooked football league, lets ask The once proud club called Luton shall we? Glad i got that off my chest.
??????????? thought we won the cup final in 76 and without Matty i think.
christian-saint, Southampton says...
1:39pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ash_, Southampton says...
1:43pm Wed 1 Jul 09
At the end of the day The Echo has to stop being cunning and creating negative vibes just so to sell papers. Pinnacle in my eyes are the only ones who have the sense to get a football-wise person like Le Tiss on board to make all the football decisions whilst they provide the cash. It's a good group and setup - lets stop being negative towards them - they could be saving our club!
The Echo needs to start supporting any group who wants to but the Saints!
I'm waiting for a headline that states some supportive words and motivation to encouragement!
St.Stubb, Stubbington says...
1:44pm Wed 1 Jul 09
christian-saint, Southampton says...
1:44pm Wed 1 Jul 09
wraggster, isle of wight says...
1:47pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ash_ wrote:Boring ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
Leave the poor guy alone. Fry has clearly done his own homework and cleared Pinnacle's group - he would never have allowed them the period of exclusivity if they didn't prove they had the funds and Le Tiss would not have associated with them either if he didn't think they were serious contenders. At the end of the day The Echo has to stop being cunning and creating negative vibes just so to sell papers. Pinnacle in my eyes are the only ones who have the sense to get a football-wise person like Le Tiss on board to make all the football decisions whilst they provide the cash. It's a good group and setup - lets stop being negative towards them - they could be saving our club! The Echo needs to start supporting any group who wants to but the Saints! I'm waiting for a headline that states some supportive words and motivation to encouragement!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
1:48pm Wed 1 Jul 09
christian-saint wrote:Sickening how assumptions are made about some charachter just because he wont buy our poxt football club.. Give the man a break. Afetr all If the deal does go through tomorrow he'll be your hero..
Fialka is probably the most dilluded mummy's boy I've ever come accross - I'll tell you what Mickey, work up the bottle to leave home first, then get a proper job, then maybe in 30 years or so look into buying a football club you ugly loser
adam1981, southampton says...
1:51pm Wed 1 Jul 09
St Retford, Manchester says...
1:56pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Measaint, london says...
1:57pm Wed 1 Jul 09
christian-saint, Southampton says...
1:58pm Wed 1 Jul 09
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
1:58pm Wed 1 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:Well said. people need to get a grip and wait for the outcome.. And don't start dripping on that we've been waiting for 6 weeks already. It will be sorted.. How about the poor sfc employees.. lets spare a though for them
It's amazing how people are so quick to criticise Le Tiss and the Pinnacle Group despite not actually knowing anything about the ins and outs of their bid. It's just possible that Matt knows a little bit more about the situation than any of you, so please don't run down a club legend. You'll probably end up looking like a bit of a scoper for it as soon as the full truth comes out.
threetimes, Southampton says...
1:59pm Wed 1 Jul 09
SW = hate-hear (too right!)
St Retford, Manchester says...
2:01pm Wed 1 Jul 09
True Saints Fan wrote:The people running down Le Tiss remind me of those people in Portsmouth who went around trying to burn down the houses of paediatricians. I understand emotions are running high but in cases like this it usually pays to engage your intellect before your emotions, otherwise posterity will judge you to be a bit of a tool.
St Retford wrote: It's amazing how people are so quick to criticise Le Tiss and the Pinnacle Group despite not actually knowing anything about the ins and outs of their bid. It's just possible that Matt knows a little bit more about the situation than any of you, so please don't run down a club legend. You'll probably end up looking like a bit of a scoper for it as soon as the full truth comes out.Well said. people need to get a grip and wait for the outcome.. And don't start dripping on that we've been waiting for 6 weeks already. It will be sorted.. How about the poor sfc employees.. lets spare a though for them
ash_, Southampton says...
2:08pm Wed 1 Jul 09
do you ever write anything worthwhile or are you as stupid as your name suggests? Very impressive of you to reply so childish.
If you are a true Saints fan then write something positive and get behind your club - that's if Saints are your club. You are probably a Pompey supporter!
wraggster, isle of wight says...
2:12pm Wed 1 Jul 09
saintrooty wrote:I too have this e-mail in my inbox from football league
the following is an e-mail I recieved from the football league today. kinda shows that pinnacle were never really serious.... Dear Mr Root Thank you for your email. Due to the volume of communications a standard response is necessary. To clarify, the sporting sanction, i.e. points deduction has been made in accordance with League regulations, which are put in place by the clubs themselves – The League merely administers them. An appeal is allowed with a specified period. When a club suffers an insolvency event, e.g. administration, their share in The League is liable to be withdrawn under the terms of our Articles of Association. In other words their membership comes to an end. However, because we are in the business of trying to keep clubs alive, the Board operates a policy within the provisions of the Articles which suspends the withdrawal of a club’s share in order to give them a second chance – this is entirely in keeping with the law of the land. Recent arbitration proceedings confirm The Football League has the right to impose conditions on a company that sees to join The League in this way. These conditions reflect the need to protect the integrity of the competition by ensuring that no club should be able to gain an advantage over its rivals by not paying its debts. Owners of football clubs will change over time, but the ‘club’ remains the same. It is the club which secures a competitive advantage from wiping out debt through insolvency proceedings, and therefore, it is only right that it is the club, regardless as to the identity of the new owners, that is made subject to any conditions. The League has a responsibility to ensure all League clubs start the season - we would also clarify that throughout our discussions no conditions other than a waiver in regard to sporting sanctions have ever been raised with us as a major issue. Patricia Brown Customer Service The Football League www.football-league. co.uk
I've also e-mailed sky sports to see if they have any info on this Fialka fiasco
mentazm1974, southampton says...
2:12pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Ozmosis wrote:and david blunkett
If it's up in the air with only 2 days to resolve it, after having had 6 weeks, it's never going to happen. Even Stevie Wonder can see that!
SaintHarry, West Moors says...
2:13pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saints since '57, Nursling says...
2:14pm Wed 1 Jul 09
What satisfaction do these losers get from slagging off MLT and TL when they dont know all the facts.
The Echo could also learn this lesson! Reporting assumptions is the name of the game - slagging someone off when you dont KNOW the facts is what keeps the lawyers fat!
season ticket holder, totton says...
2:15pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Someone is telling porkies.
COYR
Peter Strait, Bognor Regis says...
2:16pm Wed 1 Jul 09
RupertLoweIsGod, Alton says...
2:19pm Wed 1 Jul 09
He has no cash. He lives at home with mummy and daddy, and his business empire made 24k profit last year (which probably just about pays for his computer games and comics). He's misled MLT, the administrator and probably Tony Lynam all the way through the takeover.
He's been rumbled - I can't believe the press and TV still give him air time.
Lets leave this loser to go back home to live with mummy and daddy for the rest of his life and get on with hoping someone serious buys the club.
THEKILLER, SOUTHAMPTON says...
2:23pm Wed 1 Jul 09
clubcoach, Shipley says...
2:23pm Wed 1 Jul 09
This is what I've thought before, the right of appeal they were asking for wasn't for the -10 for going into admin, more for the right to appeal against the additional -10 or 15 they would get for exiting admin without a CVA.
Should havepicked the phone up too Ken Bates!
sotonmania, Somewhere says...
2:24pm Wed 1 Jul 09
stormus troupias the 2nd, southampton says...
2:25pm Wed 1 Jul 09
chapellady, eastleigh says...
2:35pm Wed 1 Jul 09
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
2:38pm Wed 1 Jul 09
chapellady wrote:If you could only listen to yourself. What a loser
I have been to St Marys today and spent a fortune in the store. Everyone I saw looked sad from the staff to other shoppers buying possibly their last momentos. I sat in my car in the car park and and looked at the fantastic stadium and cried at the thought of never watching Saints play again. I don't care who buys Saints as long as someone does. Southampton till I die.....
chapellady, eastleigh says...
2:41pm Wed 1 Jul 09
True Saints Fan wrote:and you call yourself True Saints fan
chapellady wrote: I have been to St Marys today and spent a fortune in the store. Everyone I saw looked sad from the staff to other shoppers buying possibly their last momentos. I sat in my car in the car park and and looked at the fantastic stadium and cried at the thought of never watching Saints play again. I don't care who buys Saints as long as someone does. Southampton till I die.....If you could only listen to yourself. What a loser
BertCatt, Flatholme Nr Steepholme says...
2:43pm Wed 1 Jul 09
1:25pm Wed 1 Jul 09
take overs always go right to the wire and the Echo have to sell papers so we'll always get old news rehashed - we can but hope that someone signs on the dotted line before wind-up day.
Think every day since administration has been wind up day. I think we are still being wound up. What a sick joke.
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
2:49pm Wed 1 Jul 09
chapellady wrote:I am a fan and also a much more stable human being than you. Crying in the carpark suggests you really need to address the real issues in your life..
True Saints Fan wrote:and you call yourself True Saints fanchapellady wrote: I have been to St Marys today and spent a fortune in the store. Everyone I saw looked sad from the staff to other shoppers buying possibly their last momentos. I sat in my car in the car park and and looked at the fantastic stadium and cried at the thought of never watching Saints play again. I don't care who buys Saints as long as someone does. Southampton till I die.....If you could only listen to yourself. What a loser
wraggster, isle of wight says...
2:51pm Wed 1 Jul 09
True Saints Fan wrote:Ash you have only written 2 things on this thread
ash_ wrote: wraggster, do you ever write anything worthwhile or are you as stupid as your name suggests? Very impressive of you to reply so childish. If you are a true Saints fan then write something positive and get behind your club - that's if Saints are your club. You are probably a Pompey supporter!You're an over weight smelly cnut... Is that positive enough for you.. As you're most likely morbidly obeece
1.A tribute to Fialka and cronies.
2.to slag me off, talk about being childish, and insulting my username
grow up you big girls blouse, what are you Fialka's brother or is it sister. And as for you true saints fan
your just a foul mouth idiot.
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
2:53pm Wed 1 Jul 09
wraggster wrote:So you are obeece.. What a guess!
True Saints Fan wrote:Ash you have only written 2 things on this thread 1.A tribute to Fialka and cronies. 2.to slag me off, talk about being childish, and insulting my username grow up you big girls blouse, what are you Fialka's brother or is it sister. And as for you true saints fan your just a foul mouth idiot.ash_ wrote: wraggster, do you ever write anything worthwhile or are you as stupid as your name suggests? Very impressive of you to reply so childish. If you are a true Saints fan then write something positive and get behind your club - that's if Saints are your club. You are probably a Pompey supporter!You're an over weight smelly cnut... Is that positive enough for you.. As you're most likely morbidly obeece
wraggster, isle of wight says...
3:00pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Charismatic Andrew, Patcham says...
3:14pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Ozmosis wrote:Never mind Stevie Wonder?
If it's up in the air with only 2 days to resolve it, after having had 6 weeks, it's never going to happen. Even Stevie Wonder can see that!
Even Michael Jackson can see that!
Saint Rob, Southampton, Freemantle says...
3:24pm Wed 1 Jul 09
rijo12, Southampton says...
3:24pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saintimbo, Portswood says...
3:31pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saintan, Southampton says...
3:40pm Wed 1 Jul 09
it's the only way he's going to understand the words "F**K OFF"
Invidia, southampton says...
3:43pm Wed 1 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:How very true St Retford, there are people who just love to wind people up, (I did not use the word fans) and have you noticed the people who are blaming fans for not attending matches last year, live mainly abroad, very strange, before some one has a go at me, I have ben a ST holder from premiership days.
True Saints Fan wrote:The people running down Le Tiss remind me of those people in Portsmouth who went around trying to burn down the houses of paediatricians. I understand emotions are running high but in cases like this it usually pays to engage your intellect before your emotions, otherwise posterity will judge you to be a bit of a tool.St Retford wrote: It's amazing how people are so quick to criticise Le Tiss and the Pinnacle Group despite not actually knowing anything about the ins and outs of their bid. It's just possible that Matt knows a little bit more about the situation than any of you, so please don't run down a club legend. You'll probably end up looking like a bit of a scoper for it as soon as the full truth comes out.Well said. people need to get a grip and wait for the outcome.. And don't start dripping on that we've been waiting for 6 weeks already. It will be sorted.. How about the poor sfc employees.. lets spare a though for them
brennothornhill, manchester says...
3:46pm Wed 1 Jul 09
LeopardsSpots, Southampton says...
3:49pm Wed 1 Jul 09
george chivers, basingstoke says...
3:52pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saintan, Southampton says...
4:05pm Wed 1 Jul 09
brennothornhill wrote:sloth from the Goonies?!
Calling all saints fans, stop being so petty with each other, if your not a saints fan get off this furum unless you have something interesting and constructive to say. I couldnt care less if this bloke took over the club, it could be Sloth from the goonies for all I care all I want is a club to support and I for one would welcome anyone other that Rupert or Wilde onto the scene.... Southampton FC till I die, we will march on....
did you mean Iain Dowie?
It wouldn't be a bad move though!
"HEY YOU GUYS!"
COYR
SOPF
kski, Oxford says...
4:16pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Whilst it is easy to berate PGthey remain the only bidder to commit money.
WHilst other grops are talking - I think we shall see this drag on beyond Friday.
The administrator wants to sell the club and has sold two players worth £2.2m. Surely this gives us enough money to fund wages for July, as the debtors stand to receive more for a "going" concern.
Allowing we have paid down part of the Overdraft, players are now out of contract so wage bills are reduced, the club and we have revenue generating games coming up - if Fry can steer us through the close season we appear a more saleable item. we can only spend money we have in the curreent account so we must trade within our means for the next three months.
Regards the league- the only issue we have is a further penalty - for not coming out of the Admin, but it can be argused that we have not gained an advantage by writing of debt. The administrator is legally bound to operate the company on a sound footing.
If Fry is connvinced the clubs is not finacially viable then he must report to the creditors and agreed a winding up process. Buut we could in theory be in administration for 12 months?
I have a feeling this will run on. Surely Wotte's contract extension has been approved by Fry, and tbh if the club was being wound up on friday - he would have toddled off - why take a job for 3 days?
it just doesnot make sense
colmeister, southampton says...
4:29pm Wed 1 Jul 09
JESUS CHRIST! is there anything some of you wont forgive. Talk about good natured, its a bloody good job half the people on here arent buying the club or we really would be out of business.
Go right back to start of this FARCE and read the statements from Lynam and MLT and more recently Fialka. Nothing they have said or done has ANY continuity AT ALL.
1, How many wealthy backers were there. First 4, then 1, then a group or wealthy family, now none.
2, What are they worth. Firstly a PERSONAL net worth of 'several hundred million'. Now, we don't know but people with 000's millions could have just bought 1st and battled the league in court afterwards.
3, 'the ten point deduction is not a deal breaker', isn't it? no where in any other statement has anyone involved been able to explain anything other than use the phrase 'other issues' - If their not buying us, it won't matter to tell us what they are then and treat us with a little dignity and intelligence?
4, They tell us that the backers' identity will be revealed after the take over then Mickey Mouse goes on Sky sports news! laughable! then Lynam tells us he planned that afterwards. Hands up if you were born yesterday!
This is not how serious business works fellow fans, this is classic making it up because we are miles out of our depth behaviour. Think Branson, Sugar, hell even the Glazers have more PR skill than this...
They have just spent 5 weeks of our lives NOT buying the club and ultimately NOT apologizing for it but hey ' they did their best '. NO they didnt, they realised it was going to take longer to make a profit with the deductions th FL are allowed to impose so they f****d off. THATS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT, THATS BUSINESS.
Did they pull out because they love the club and they want to see it progress, no, didnt think so....MLT needs to start polishing that halo.
END OF.
brennothornhill, manchester says...
4:42pm Wed 1 Jul 09
colmeister wrote:agree with comments, but where is that going to get us, other than probably distressing you a little. I still believe MLT was duped into this and will not hear a bad word to say about him, he cares about this club and has proven this time and time again. I agree that the business actions of these guys arent perfect but then when as anything saints been involved in not been chaotic, stressful and **** right embarrassing. I would prefer one of the othr bidders to buy the club but if it is this guy I will back him 100% and would hope that everyone else follows. I love Southampton Football Club and want nothing more to be able to sing my heart out for the club next season, as mentioned previously if it means having sloth, elephant man or a female in charge I couldnt give a ****. COYR
i posted this late last night but after reading some of the pathetic maybe he is still does care BS on this forum here it is again. If you think the PG/MLT are amazing, look away now... JESUS CHRIST! is there anything some of you wont forgive. Talk about good natured, its a bloody good job half the people on here arent buying the club or we really would be out of business. Go right back to start of this FARCE and read the statements from Lynam and MLT and more recently Fialka. Nothing they have said or done has ANY continuity AT ALL. 1, How many wealthy backers were there. First 4, then 1, then a group or wealthy family, now none. 2, What are they worth. Firstly a PERSONAL net worth of 'several hundred million'. Now, we don't know but people with 000's millions could have just bought 1st and battled the league in court afterwards. 3, 'the ten point deduction is not a deal breaker', isn't it? no where in any other statement has anyone involved been able to explain anything other than use the phrase 'other issues' - If their not buying us, it won't matter to tell us what they are then and treat us with a little dignity and intelligence? 4, They tell us that the backers' identity will be revealed after the take over then Mickey Mouse goes on Sky sports news! laughable! then Lynam tells us he planned that afterwards. Hands up if you were born yesterday! This is not how serious business works fellow fans, this is classic making it up because we are miles out of our depth behaviour. Think Branson, Sugar, hell even the Glazers have more PR skill than this... They have just spent 5 weeks of our lives NOT buying the club and ultimately NOT apologizing for it but hey ' they did their best '. NO they didnt, they realised it was going to take longer to make a profit with the deductions th FL are allowed to impose so they f****d off. THATS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT, THATS BUSINESS. Did they pull out because they love the club and they want to see it progress, no, didnt think so....MLT needs to start polishing that halo. END OF.
colmeister, southampton says...
4:53pm Wed 1 Jul 09
brennothornhill wrote:Point taken and i dont doubt he cares an awful lot about the club and its fans. Sometimes however, it just isnt enough to say 'never mind, they all meant well and MLT is a legend'. Not when it can be alleged that the incompetence thats been on show starts to impact on our percentage chance of staying in business after over 100 years!
colmeister wrote: i posted this late last night but after reading some of the pathetic maybe he is still does care BS on this forum here it is again. If you think the PG/MLT are amazing, look away now... JESUS CHRIST! is there anything some of you wont forgive. Talk about good natured, its a bloody good job half the people on here arent buying the club or we really would be out of business. Go right back to start of this FARCE and read the statements from Lynam and MLT and more recently Fialka. Nothing they have said or done has ANY continuity AT ALL. 1, How many wealthy backers were there. First 4, then 1, then a group or wealthy family, now none. 2, What are they worth. Firstly a PERSONAL net worth of 'several hundred million'. Now, we don't know but people with 000's millions could have just bought 1st and battled the league in court afterwards. 3, 'the ten point deduction is not a deal breaker', isn't it? no where in any other statement has anyone involved been able to explain anything other than use the phrase 'other issues' - If their not buying us, it won't matter to tell us what they are then and treat us with a little dignity and intelligence? 4, They tell us that the backers' identity will be revealed after the take over then Mickey Mouse goes on Sky sports news! laughable! then Lynam tells us he planned that afterwards. Hands up if you were born yesterday! This is not how serious business works fellow fans, this is classic making it up because we are miles out of our depth behaviour. Think Branson, Sugar, hell even the Glazers have more PR skill than this... They have just spent 5 weeks of our lives NOT buying the club and ultimately NOT apologizing for it but hey ' they did their best '. NO they didnt, they realised it was going to take longer to make a profit with the deductions th FL are allowed to impose so they f****d off. THATS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT, THATS BUSINESS. Did they pull out because they love the club and they want to see it progress, no, didnt think so....MLT needs to start polishing that halo. END OF.agree with comments, but where is that going to get us, other than probably distressing you a little. I still believe MLT was duped into this and will not hear a bad word to say about him, he cares about this club and has proven this time and time again. I agree that the business actions of these guys arent perfect but then when as anything saints been involved in not been chaotic, stressful and **** right embarrassing. I would prefer one of the othr bidders to buy the club but if it is this guy I will back him 100% and would hope that everyone else follows. I love Southampton Football Club and want nothing more to be able to sing my heart out for the club next season, as mentioned previously if it means having sloth, elephant man or a female in charge I couldnt give a ****. COYR
I just think 'hands up, we're sorry' or even 'here are the real reasons for our last minute capitulation' wouldn't go amiss before we all let them off with a pat on the back for trying.......
Bob's Your Uncle, Eastleigh says...
4:54pm Wed 1 Jul 09
I hope the Swiss group may be serious and get things moving quickly.
(Have you given your views and seen what other Saints fans think on Southampton World?
www.ohwhenthesaints.
net )
Bob's Your Uncle, Eastleigh says...
4:54pm Wed 1 Jul 09
I hope the Swiss group may be serious and get things moving quickly.
(Have you given your views and seen what other Saints fans think on Southampton World?
www.ohwhenthesaints.
net )
northamsoul, isle of wight says...
5:44pm Wed 1 Jul 09
hope whoever is in charge we still have le tiss as chairman. :)
midlandsaint, uttoxeter says...
5:48pm Wed 1 Jul 09
What both parties have admitted is that it is not about the 10 point deduction, and really that is all we know.
Regarding Pinnacle Group. Again, we know nothing about them other than what little has been discovered about Michael Fialka by obtaining copies of company records of his two businesses.
It could simply be that Michael and three others (with MLT being the fifth member of the board) were merely the designated representatives of a larger group. Perhaps their money was coming from the Jewish business community or something. I'm certainly not suggesting that is the case, but there are certainly many viable possibilities for Michael Fialka and the Pinnacle group to actually have the money.
If it turns out that Michael was just after his 15 minutes of fame then it is a great shame as it may well have cost us our club, but I for one will be reserving judgement until after someone buys the club, and once the FACTS begin to emerge, rather than in ignorance and OPINION based on a few articles and chinese whispers.
I hope we find a buyer, and I hope that buyer has the interests of our club at heart as opposed to making a quick buck at our expense.
*remains faithful*
SaintPaul, says...
5:49pm Wed 1 Jul 09
colmeister, southampton says...
5:51pm Wed 1 Jul 09
I trust that no one minds if i ask to see a little less of man at Millets during this period of stress. I find it strangely offensive that someone so incompetent ( in my opinion ) can look so smug. also find this video clip hugely irrelevant given that the PG purchase of the club is hardly a certainty.
regards, colmeister
ps love those mirror shades, right up there with Nash Bridges on the style front. hundreds of millions my arse, ****.
midlandsaint, uttoxeter says...
5:54pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Surman, who began his career with the South Coast club, also views the collapse of Saints legend Le Tissier's takeover as a major setback.
"It is another disappointment," he added. "Everyone's hopes were high when they heard Matt Le Tissier was fronting a consortium.
"I feel sorry for him because he has tried as hard as he can to get someone to take over the club, get some money in and get some structure back.
"I think he fully believed that was going to happen."
Mac78, Southampton says...
6:04pm Wed 1 Jul 09
cbuk, says...
6:06pm Wed 1 Jul 09
T0SSER
SaintPaul, says...
6:07pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Mac78, Southampton says...
6:10pm Wed 1 Jul 09
cbuk wrote:Huh? Are you a Fialka fan then?
get lost T0SSER
Balders76, Ringwood says...
6:48pm Wed 1 Jul 09
forever red never blue, southampton says...
6:58pm Wed 1 Jul 09
cfordred, chandlersford says...
7:24pm Wed 1 Jul 09
rijo12, Southampton says...
7:25pm Wed 1 Jul 09
stinkyboots, POMPEY says...
8:20pm Wed 1 Jul 09
PG are only interested again to assett strip.
weh8pompey, soton says...
8:39pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL), Tirau (NZL) says...
9:34pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Get stuffed
ben dover, brockenhurst says...
10:02pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Patrick80's, Southampton says...
10:23pm Wed 1 Jul 09
sholingred, southampton says...
10:41pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Saintimbo, Portswood says...
11:13pm Wed 1 Jul 09
dannyep, southampton says...
8:00am Thu 2 Jul 09
db_3, says...
8:07am Thu 2 Jul 09
colmeister wrote:Couldn't agree more. Del Boy's had his minute of fame.
i have just asked the echo to urgently remove the TL video clip from this website.
I trust that no one minds if i ask to see a little less of man at Millets during this period of stress. I find it strangely offensive that someone so incompetent ( in my opinion ) can look so smug. also find this video clip hugely irrelevant given that the PG purchase of the club is hardly a certainty.
regards, colmeister
ps love those mirror shades, right up there with Nash Bridges on the style front. hundreds of millions my arse, ****.
dannyep, southampton says...
8:10am Thu 2 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:Maybe De Nero as Fialka,(he nailed taxi driver) Alan Rickman to play Lowe, and only Gerard Depardeau could be a convincing MLT
There's probably enough material here to make a full lenth feature film, I'm trying to thing of a title and who to get to play the leading role of MLT, anyone got any ideas who could play Fialka and Lowe? I rekon this could be a blockbuster, it could start in maybe the mid 90's and move through to the current day, a rise and fall kind of film, but it would then centre around the Lowe takeover and and really concentrate on the past 6 months circus performance, what a great movie!
Saintimbo, Portswood says...
10:45am Thu 2 Jul 09
Saintimbo, Portswood says...
11:06am Thu 2 Jul 09
I've always wanted to own a football club!
alane61, Southampton says...
2:33pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Saintimbo wrote:What a brilliant idea! If we all raid our jars we could form a consortium and get Tony 'Tycoon' Lynam to front us. Do we all live with our parents? That seems to be a pre-requisite for having Tony the Tycoon work on our behalf. I'm sure we would clear Mark Fry's 'fit and proper' people tests.
Just a thought. If I raid my 2s & 1s jar and sell my vintage subbuteo set on ebay, would that be enough to enter an exclusivity period? I've always wanted to own a football club!
:-)
alane61, Southampton says...
2:35pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Fatpau1, Everton says...
3:43pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Michael Fialka
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12:35pm Wed 1 Jul 09