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Experience thin on the ground again for Saints
12:50pm Thursday 2nd July 2009
ANY new owners at Saints will inherit a much reduced squad compared to the one that ended last season.
Thirteen players who played for the first team under Jan Poortvliet or Mark Wotte have already left or retired since the end of 2008/09.
Rudi Skacel and Ryan Smith were told shortly after the season ended that they were being released.
Kelvin Davis, Bradley Wright-Phillips, Stern John and Jason Euell are all now free agents as their contracts expired yesterday with no new regime in place to offer new deals.
Those four departures alone have saved around £30,000 from the weekly wage bill at the club.
Michael Svensson’s contract has also expired, though he had pre-empted that by announcing his retirement from playing last week.
Nathan Dyer, David McGoldrick and Andrew Surman have all been sold in order to pay the wages at a time when the club have been unable to sell season tickets in order to bring in money during the summer months.
In addition, Romain Gasmi, Zoltan Liptak and Jan Paul Saeijs have returned to their parent clubs following the expiry of their loan deals.
Goalkeeper Michael Poke is back at Saints, though, after finishing last season playing on the winning side at Wembley for Torquay in the Blue Square Premier play-off final.
Another keeper, Bartosz Bialkowski, is also back at the club after finishing last season on loan at Ipswich.
Defender Wayne Thomas could also be fit after missing the whole of last season through injury.
All the above mentioned departures have left Saints with only 21 players on their books with first team experience.
Of that lot, only Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas, Paul Wotton, Marek Saganowski and Grzegorz Rasiak have major experience.
But the likes of Adam Lallana, Lloyd James and Simon Gillett have vitually a full season at Championship level under their belts.
Saints midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin won’t feature in the friendly at Eastleigh on Saturday as he is currently playing for the French under-20 side in the Mediterranean Games.
This is who is currently available in terms of players with first team experience: Goalkeepers: Tommy Forecast, Michael Poke, Bartosz Bialkowski.
Defenders: Lloyd James, Ollie Lancashire, Joseph Mills, Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas, Lee Molyneux.
Midfielders: Simon Gillett, Paul Wotton, Morgan Schneiderlin, Oscar Gobern, Adam Lallana, Lee Holmes, Jake Thomson, Kyle McLaggon.
Strikers: Marek Saganowski, Grzegorz Rasiak, Matt Paterson, Jamie White.
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SaintHarry, West Moors says...
1:01pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Darkangelv2, Southampton says...
1:06pm Thu 2 Jul 09
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Did you actaully use the phrase : of 'THAT LOT' ???
Are we experiencing that phenomenon of monkeys with a typewriter very nearly producing Shakespear?
saintofatheism, southampton says...
1:08pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Stafford Saint, Southampton says...
1:24pm Thu 2 Jul 09
I don't know a lot about the division we are now in but I think our team is mostly the match of others.
Having said that we could do with Saeijs returning and possibly Liptak. I don't want to rely on Thomas and Perry exclusively. Up front isn't bad, IF the Poles want to stay and try. Not every club in the division has European international strikers. The midfield is good. Holmes, Lallana, Schneiderlin could have a goal scoring season ahead of them. Whilst Wotton and Gillet are a match for most 3rd tier teams. It comes with the nature of the position, but there will be a big change in goal. You get used to seeing the same guy for 100% of the time and then it has to be someone else. But there is no reason to think Bialkowski or Forecast cannot step up.
We still got quality in the team. That is important to me. I wouldn't want a team of old lumping footballers. It is a too often said (and perhaps inaccurate) cliche that you need to be unskilled in these divisions.
Condor Man, Southampton says...
1:29pm Thu 2 Jul 09
I've heard that Ipswich want Bart so give Poke a go in goal- he deserves a chance and played well in 3 games 2 years back.
The less said about Wotton the better
Darkangelv2, Southampton says...
2:05pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Condor Man wrote:Agreed re: Gillet, Holmes and McLaggon.
Hopefully Rasiak and Saga will be gone soon. Quite frankly I like Lloyd James, Simon Gillett, Lee Holmes and Kayne McLaggon. I'll be surprised if Lallana isn't sold next. I've heard that Ipswich want Bart so give Poke a go in goal- he deserves a chance and played well in 3 games 2 years back. The less said about Wotton the better
However i thought Lloyd James was one of the worst players last year. He couldn't defend any traditional wingers and constantly allowed them into our box. He would then cross the ball as soon as he'd passed the half way line. 2 rows of us in the Northam Road end would just shout 'cross it' whenever he got the ball....and he did!
AdrianSmith, Southampton says...
2:36pm Thu 2 Jul 09
NewForestStu wrote:Where does it say it's an exclusive?
Really? Is this an exclusive?
Do you actually KNOW what exclusive means?
Why are so many commenters on this site morons?
pb5691, Warsash says...
3:09pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Burton Saint, Christchurch says...
3:17pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Have any of them turned up for training this week or have they just walked?
Other than BWP supposedly signing for Crystal Palace there has been no comment about these three.
Also nothing about Rasiak or Saganowski being sought after.
Other than the savings on the wage bill if these five go, there's nothing beneficial in their leaving. It puts SFC back to the position they were in last August with the Lowe Dutch 'youth experiment'.
You couldn't make this up. The SW is save-when.
That's what we all want to know! Is someone at the Echo having a laugh?
deadly666, Southampton says...
3:41pm Thu 2 Jul 09
ANTHONY PUTRID?
sorry PULIS
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh says...
3:42pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Barry the Tash, Hoaresrash says...
3:51pm Thu 2 Jul 09
I think, bring Prutton back, make him captain and stick him in the middle of the park. He'll run all day, kick team mates arses when they need it and he knows the league.
If pinnicle do come back in, will we be a feeder club for spurs?
Condor Man, Southampton says...
4:17pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Will anyone want to sigh for us? We need a new Jimmy Case, any ideas?
Barry the Tash, Hoaresrash says...
4:41pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Condor Man wrote:I agree condor. But have'nt most of the players let us down over the last few years.
Prutton? all huff and puff, let us down badly in 05. No thanks. Will anyone want to sigh for us? We need a new Jimmy Case, any ideas?
Granted he aint Jimmy Case but we're in div3, and as you said who's gonna want to sign for us.
I can't think of any one else, besides Pruttons hopefully grown up a bit without being over the hill. A couple of my mates are Leeds fans and they say he's been good for them at this level.
pawnsacrifice, says...
5:21pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Darkangelv2 wrote:Oh c'mon, it take years of studying to be a journo....not just any monkey could do it you know
"Of that lot, only Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas, Paul Wotton, Marek Saganowski and Grzegorz Rasiak have major experience. " -------------------- - Did you actaully use the phrase : of 'THAT LOT' ??? Are we experiencing that phenomenon of monkeys with a typewriter very nearly producing Shakespear?
Ross96, Chandlers Ford says...
7:15pm Thu 2 Jul 09
sec. word step-forward how apt.
Pindar, nearly there! says...
8:09pm Thu 2 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL), Tirau (NZL) says...
10:24pm Thu 2 Jul 09
BertCatt, Flatholme Nr Steepholme says...
1:24am Fri 3 Jul 09
Bigrich1980, ERIMI says...
9:38am Fri 3 Jul 09
NewForestStu, New Forest says...
1:18pm Fri 3 Jul 09
AdrianSmith wrote:Oh dear, think this went straight over your head!!
NewForestStu wrote: Really? Is this an exclusive?Where does it say it's an exclusive? Do you actually KNOW what exclusive means? Why are so many commenters on this site morons?
ramptonfromsouthampton, Muswell Hill, London says...
2:33pm Fri 3 Jul 09
Ode Thompson
Personal information
Date of birth November 8, 1980 (1980-11-08) (age 28)
Place of birth
Height 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)
Playing position Striker
Club information
Current club K.S.V. Roeselare
Number 9
Senior career1
Years Club App (Gls)*
000?-1998
1998
1999
1999-2000
2000-2001
2002
2002-2003
2003-2004
2004
2005
2005-2007
2008
2008-present Julius Berger F.C.
K.A.A. Gent
Standaard Wetteren (loan)
K.R.C. Harelbeke
R.S.C. Anderlecht
K.V.C. Westerlo (loan)
La Louvière (loan)
RBC Roosendaal
K.V. Oostende
Union
K.V.S.K. United
K.M.S.K. Deinze
K.S.V. Roeselare
27 (4)
12 (4)
09 (1)
1 Senior club appearances and goals
counted for the domestic league only and
correct as of 15:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC).
* Appearances (Goals)
Still, its all pretty academic if noone buys the club, isn't it?
Paul Wotton
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12:58pm Thu 2 Jul 09