Saints in no rush to name Pards successor – Davis (From Daily Echo)

seedhouse wrote:
So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

seedhouse wrote:
So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

saints til i die wrote:

seedhouse wrote:
So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

SHATAP!!

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

saints til i die wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

SHATAP!!

seedhouse wrote:
So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

SheffySaint wrote:
I think everyone that slags the chairman off should have a long hard think about what they're doing, Cortese practically saved our club and the ONLY thing we should be focusing on is getting behind the team!!!

Shareholder wrote:
Let's hope Kelvin has Hitman Cortese's permission to speak to the Echo or he'll be the next one out the door! I find it outstanding though that no one was lined up before Pardew got the push. Don't expect to learn much in a hurry though - the Liebherr empire is almost as secretive as the CIA. For instance, what did Markus die of, when was the funeral, what did he do when the family said 'he took steps to secure the future of Southampton Football Club?'. I guess I'm like thousands of Saints fans, worried and slightly disillusioned. A After the pain of the Lowe years we've had just one full of positivism, Joy and hope. Suddenly I feel like I've stepped back in time and once again left totally in the dark. Markus promised stability and openness; his prodigy is delivering quite the opposite right now and it has to end. And that end needs to happen very soon.

northamrowcc wrote:
Just seen NC being carted away in a straightjacket or am I forever the optimist

DJI wrote:
It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions.

Consider a few things:
1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely.
2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up.
3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers.
4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures.
5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp.

I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up.

Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas.

Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone.

I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

seedhouse wrote:

Shareholder wrote: Let's hope Kelvin has Hitman Cortese's permission to speak to the Echo or he'll be the next one out the door! I find it outstanding though that no one was lined up before Pardew got the push. Don't expect to learn much in a hurry though - the Liebherr empire is almost as secretive as the CIA. For instance, what did Markus die of, when was the funeral, what did he do when the family said 'he took steps to secure the future of Southampton Football Club?'. I guess I'm like thousands of Saints fans, worried and slightly disillusioned. A After the pain of the Lowe years we've had just one full of positivism, Joy and hope. Suddenly I feel like I've stepped back in time and once again left totally in the dark. Markus promised stability and openness; his prodigy is delivering quite the opposite right now and it has to end. And that end needs to happen very soon.

Top post Shareholder

DJI wrote:
It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions.

Consider a few things:
1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely.
2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up.
3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers.
4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures.
5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp.

I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up.

Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas.

Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone.

I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

Saint Bean wrote:

DJI wrote: It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions. Consider a few things: 1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely. 2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up. 3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers. 4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures. 5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp. I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up. Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas. Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone. I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

Couldnt have put it any better totally agree great post.

swisssaint wrote:
This is the first time I've been compelled to make a comment on these message boards since those dark days when the club very nearly ceased to exist. I have to say that reading these hundreds of messages over the last few days has astonished me and made me feel totally ashamed to be a Saints fan. No-one (except a few players and staff) are in possesion of the true facts and details of why AP and his backroom staff were relieved of their duties..and we as fans probably won't know the real reasons for the cull either...yet people have continually jumped to knee-jerk conclusions and worked themselves into an anti-Cortese frenzy. It's amazing to see a mob-like mentality infecting everyone..and some of the daft absurdities uttered on these pages make my blood boil. The reality is that Southampton is a business..and as with other businesses, staff and boardroom personnel get sacked daily for various reasons..but normally it's in the best interests of the business. Get over it, it's part and parcel of life. While Alan pardew was a reasonable manager, he was not the best we've ever had..and he certainly was not a god as some fans are making out. There are far better managers out there who are more tactically aware (something AP has been regularly accused of) and who have better man-management skills and better motivators. I have complete faith in Nicola Cortese as our chairman. We owe him an debt of thanks and he is just the type of strong, ambitious leader we need at the club. OK, his 5-year plan has stuttered a bit, but I trust him to put the new bricks into place and to eventually get things right. As others have said : In Cortese I trust!

DJI wrote:
It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions. Consider a few things: 1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely. 2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up. 3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers. 4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures. 5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp. I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up. Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas. Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone. I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

Sainty saint saint wrote:

DJI wrote:
It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions.

Consider a few things:
1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely.
2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up.
3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers.
4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures.
5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp.

I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up.

Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas.

Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone.

I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

Blimey, a Saints fan who actually reads the available information and draws logical conclusions from it... a rare breed indeed.
Well put.

seedhouse wrote:
Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

seedhouse wrote:
Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job.
NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that.
However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP.
I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction!
My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP.
And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Northern_Saint wrote:
You whineing morons! I almost hope NC packs his bags and recommends the Liebherr familie to get the h**l out to. One can only hope they don't read all the s**t you're regurgitating all over the place.

Northern_Saint wrote:
You whineing morons! I almost hope NC packs his bags and recommends the Liebherr familie to get the h**l out to. One can only hope they don't read all the s**t you're regurgitating all over the place.

seedhouse wrote:

saints til i die wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So, "we need to get rid of AP to guarantee going up" is now turning in to "we don't know what we are doing"

SHATAP!!

Look most fans felt AP was doing between well and very well. I know you and a few others didn't which is fair enough that's up to you. However, NC has taken a huge risk here, if we take several weeks to find a "better" replacement we could be too far behind to catch up, lets all hope not.
sw "hope-hike" oh dear...

St.Yorkie wrote:
If what I understand to be the reasons for the sacking are true - then I can only endorse what has happened. No man is bigger than a club. As I have always felt since the takeover - the club is in good hands. Now the players flexed their muscles off the pitch - let's hope they can revert back to the form they showed at Bristol against Rochdale. Never react without the full facts - I am satisfied and many on here will regret their ranting about Pardew being sacked if the facts ever become public knowledge. Not sure how the paying public will react on Saturday - but the atmosphere generated at SMS is truly dreadful this season if Tuesdays game is anything to go by!

seedhouse wrote:
Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job.
NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that.
However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP.
I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction!
My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP.
And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

seedhouse wrote:
Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Block41row0sfc wrote:
I swear to god if I was in a pub and heard half of you lot bang on like this I'd be swinging all night if cortese did not tell liebhrr to buy the club and get the deal done there would be no lambert no was pardew and no club so shut your mouths get a grip and f*** o** we've played one game since he had gone 2 weeks ago no one wanted to be in the cup just wanted to go for the league now whoever has a problem with that come see me at half time by the bar in the northam you bunch of plastics

skHater wrote:
mmm... sounds a bit far fetched to me.. maybe 'player power' is getting out of hand.

We all know that the Chairman and the Manager were not the best of friends, (ringing any bells here?) so has Nicola "Rupert?" Cortese got rid of Pardew at the earliest opportunity?

Bet the fr*tt*n mob are lovin' it..

Sainty saint saint wrote:

DJI wrote: It amazes me how people don't take time to read all the information before condeming someone! I too was perplexed with the AP sacking but then read all the information available and drew my own conclusions. Consider a few things: 1. AP stated in his post-match interview after the Bolton game that he would "pick a team regardless of reputation and regardless ofmy feelings on a personal level". That was a very odd statement for any manager to make and suggested AP was having a dig at someone who had accused him of favourtism. Knowing what we know of AP, that is most likely. 2. Rumours that a senior player had a disagreement and alledgedly made certain accusations along those lines in the week prior seem to back this up. 3. The Club stated that "these targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the 1st Team and Football Development Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently the First Team Manager, etc, etc. have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect". This more than hints that there was a possible major upset at Staplewood which brought about the dismissal of certain staffers. 4. In respect of the above, it is highly unlikely that the Chairman had a "plan B" as he was not expecting to change his management team and that certain goings-on had forced him into making decisive measures. 5. "Saint" Markus stated when he bought the Club that it would be run with strong ethics and if rumours yesterday are true, you can see why it was alledgedly ML that was against the former manager and not NC. Again, if that is the case, NC was then put in a situation where he had no choice but to remove the man he backed when problems occured at the training camp. I am not spinning anything here or choosing to put together things in such a way to generate a certain outcome. I am simply reading what is written officially and piecing things together that start to add up. Where I may not always agree with all that NC does, I am in no doubt that he has the interests of SFC front and centre. I would hope that my fellow supporters would give him the benefit of the doubt and not be swayed by those with personal agendas. Was NC wrong to expect former club management to pay at the door like everyone else? After all, they are associated with the demise of our great club even if they didn't make certain decisions personally. ML had a season ticket as he wanted to show that he was a fan first. He therefore expected others to do the same if they wanted to be involved. I agreed with him about that as this was a fresh start for everyone. I fully support the Club in its' endeavours to find the right management team to take us forward in the long term and if rumours are true of the dismissals, then I fully support the Chairman in making the right decision to remove trouble makers, regardless of how popular they were. I want this Club to uphold strong ethics and promote good morals; after all our roots are in the very Church we named our Stadium after.

Blimey, a Saints fan who actually reads the available information and draws logical conclusions from it... a rare breed indeed. Well put.

Atpost wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:
I swear to god if I was in a pub and heard half of you lot bang on like this I'd be swinging all night if cortese did not tell liebhrr to buy the club and get the deal done there would be no lambert no was pardew and no club so shut your mouths get a grip and f*** o** we've played one game since he had gone 2 weeks ago no one wanted to be in the cup just wanted to go for the league now whoever has a problem with that come see me at half time by the bar in the northam you bunch of plastics

Poorly constructed, and over-tinged with emotion and bravado.
Are you on the beer already?

skHater wrote:
mmm... sounds a bit far fetched to me.. maybe 'player power' is getting out of hand. We all know that the Chairman and the Manager were not the best of friends, (ringing any bells here?) so has Nicola "Rupert?" Cortese got rid of Pardew at the earliest opportunity? Bet the fr*tt*n mob are lovin' it..

puppy saint wrote:

Northern_Saint wrote:
You whineing morons! I almost hope NC packs his bags and recommends the Liebherr familie to get the h**l out to. One can only hope they don't read all the s**t you're regurgitating all over the place.

How dare you come on here and be reasonable. We want a hangin' and the posse is whooped up into a beserker type frenzy! You can take your calm and rational views, your fårikål and your Cladonia Rangiferina with you too! Get the long coats, Ma! (can't do smiley face!)

saintsayer wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

If you believe that every single one of your employees likes you then its time to wake up As a boss you would surely sack an employee who disrupted the harmony of the majority of your work force If not then you and your company are running on luck my friend Personally I am more inclined to believe your real name is Walter Mitty SW sure-foot I think that sums up NC

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

Saint Bean wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Some interesting points seedy! However i would say that if NC is as exceptional as you say then its been my expeirience that exceptional people very often have exceptional personalities and are notoriously dificult to deal with and hopefully NC is savy enough to realise where his own expierience is lacking. Also if staff dont like there boss it usually means there actually being made to do there job properly.

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

billy bullshitter !!!! you expect people on here to believe all that crap you just typed out,,,,laughable.... knob!!

JohnItaly wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

A well reasoned and argued post. This seems to wholly support stories that are circulating relating to relationship difficulties. Whatever the reasons behind the sacking of AP, and it is becoming increasingly likely it was not football related, NC's despotic approach to management does not fit in with English culture and therefore does not bode well for the future. PS I hope your back quickly improves and you can return to work.

Gladbachsaint wrote:
No rush for a new manager ???

Well after the pathetic performance on Tuesday we start acting a bit quicker before the whole season is wasted rather than just pre-season and August.

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote: No rush for a new manager ??? Well after the pathetic performance on Tuesday we start acting a bit quicker before the whole season is wasted rather than just pre-season and August.

well if you were at the game it was more down to a very bad linesman and the most cr@p ref i have ever seen think they were getting a betting back hander for sure giveing free kicks for cheating wavng away hand balls in box not giving the goal two player's put guly on his **** in the box they waved it away with smirk on there face giving coner kick's when swindon stricker hit wide sending of two booking's in one hit and for what tell yeah couse fan's were calling for him to come on so when he did reffing ref could not wait send him back off so on and so on

Gladbachsaint wrote:

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote: No rush for a new manager ??? Well after the pathetic performance on Tuesday we start acting a bit quicker before the whole season is wasted rather than just pre-season and August.

well if you were at the game it was more down to a very bad linesman and the most cr@p ref i have ever seen think they were getting a betting back hander for sure giveing free kicks for cheating wavng away hand balls in box not giving the goal two player's put guly on his **** in the box they waved it away with smirk on there face giving coner kick's when swindon stricker hit wide sending of two booking's in one hit and for what tell yeah couse fan's were calling for him to come on so when he did reffing ref could not wait send him back off so on and so on

Unfortunately i couldn't attend on Tuesday. I find it very difficult to get a bus home after the game and its a long old walk.

Anyway - useless ref/lino etc - i can still hear the alarm bells ringing - even in Cyprus.

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote:

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote: No rush for a new manager ??? Well after the pathetic performance on Tuesday we start acting a bit quicker before the whole season is wasted rather than just pre-season and August.

well if you were at the game it was more down to a very bad linesman and the most cr@p ref i have ever seen think they were getting a betting back hander for sure giveing free kicks for cheating wavng away hand balls in box not giving the goal two player's put guly on his **** in the box they waved it away with smirk on there face giving coner kick's when swindon stricker hit wide sending of two booking's in one hit and for what tell yeah couse fan's were calling for him to come on so when he did reffing ref could not wait send him back off so on and so on

Unfortunately i couldn't attend on Tuesday. I find it very difficult to get a bus home after the game and its a long old walk. Anyway - useless ref/lino etc - i can still hear the alarm bells ringing - even in Cyprus.

well trust me us few fan's that were there were in up roar with the ref and his short fat bold side kick linesmen people like that should have no place in the game . but yes it's not a good time for saint's but it could be worse.

St.Yorkie wrote:
If what I understand to be the reasons for the sacking are true - then I can only endorse what has happened. No man is bigger than a club.
As I have always felt since the takeover - the club is in good hands.
Now the players flexed their muscles off the pitch - let's hope they can revert back to the form they showed at Bristol against Rochdale.
Never react without the full facts - I am satisfied and many on here will regret their ranting about Pardew being sacked if the facts ever become public knowledge.
Not sure how the paying public will react on Saturday - but the atmosphere generated at SMS is truly dreadful this season if Tuesdays game is anything to go by!

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

Tirau Dan wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: If what I understand to be the reasons for the sacking are true - then I can only endorse what has happened. No man is bigger than a club. As I have always felt since the takeover - the club is in good hands. Now the players flexed their muscles off the pitch - let's hope they can revert back to the form they showed at Bristol against Rochdale. Never react without the full facts - I am satisfied and many on here will regret their ranting about Pardew being sacked if the facts ever become public knowledge. Not sure how the paying public will react on Saturday - but the atmosphere generated at SMS is truly dreadful this season if Tuesdays game is anything to go by!

Here here Yorkie.. we do not know the facts and should castigate without them. There are increasing "rumours" saying Nicola Cortese acted entirely appropriately with fabulous professional diligence at the request of and with the support of a group senior players. Also that Dean Wilkins has the players support and is squeaky clean. If that's true then the crowd was wrong at sms and caused the the players a lot of distraction. Thats where I place my current leaning not with the slaggers. If the anti-cortese slaggers are right then Katarina Liebherr would surely act remove him and have SFC sold. Remember you are personally responsible for what you post on this site and must abide by our site terms. Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious.

Gladbachsaint wrote:

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote:

7saint7 wrote:

Gladbachsaint wrote: No rush for a new manager ??? Well after the pathetic performance on Tuesday we start acting a bit quicker before the whole season is wasted rather than just pre-season and August.

well if you were at the game it was more down to a very bad linesman and the most cr@p ref i have ever seen think they were getting a betting back hander for sure giveing free kicks for cheating wavng away hand balls in box not giving the goal two player's put guly on his **** in the box they waved it away with smirk on there face giving coner kick's when swindon stricker hit wide sending of two booking's in one hit and for what tell yeah couse fan's were calling for him to come on so when he did reffing ref could not wait send him back off so on and so on

Unfortunately i couldn't attend on Tuesday. I find it very difficult to get a bus home after the game and its a long old walk. Anyway - useless ref/lino etc - i can still hear the alarm bells ringing - even in Cyprus.

well trust me us few fan's that were there were in up roar with the ref and his short fat bold side kick linesmen people like that should have no place in the game . but yes it's not a good time for saint's but it could be worse.

True - we could be bottom of the league - with no money - no fans - no ground - no teeth - no money for tattoos - no job - no training ground and a dump of a ground ;-)

wacky44 wrote:
Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

saints til i die wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

How much money has been spent on players for a 10000 league ??

Folkestone Saint wrote:
This reminds me of an old Fun Boy Three track

St Retford wrote:

wacky44 wrote: Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

I'd be delighted with that. . I know we're all bit up in arms at the moment and that's understandable but I bet the upshot of all this will be that we'll end up with a better manager, playing better football and arriving in the Championship as a better team.

PGA- wrote:
Dean Wilkins confirms that Adam Lallana has had an operation on his knee - out for around six weeks

SomersetSaint wrote:
Sounds like Cortese paniced before the Rovers game and had decided to sack AP regardless of the result. It also appears he had absolutely no plan in place to appoint a successor, which I find totally incredible. Who the hell is advising this man who knows nothing about football?!!!

da boss wrote:

saints til i die wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

How much money has been spent on players for a 10000 league ??

yes,my point exactly ,saints are pulling 20000 crowds in a rubbish league ,thats five mill per season more than most clubs in that league are getting ,they have only spent the fans money,billionaires is irrelevant ,might as well be potless.

SomersetSaint wrote:
Sounds like Cortese paniced before the Rovers game and had decided to sack AP regardless of the result. It also appears he had absolutely no plan in place to appoint a successor, which I find totally incredible. Who the hell is advising this man who knows nothing about football?!!!

SomersetSaint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

wacky44 wrote: Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

I'd be delighted with that. . I know we're all bit up in arms at the moment and that's understandable but I bet the upshot of all this will be that we'll end up with a better manager, playing better football and arriving in the Championship as a better team.

I like Zola as a person, but how clued up on Div. 1 would he be? This will now be the problem, whereby the new man needs time but won't be given it!!

SomersetSaint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

wacky44 wrote: Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

I'd be delighted with that. . I know we're all bit up in arms at the moment and that's understandable but I bet the upshot of all this will be that we'll end up with a better manager, playing better football and arriving in the Championship as a better team.

I like Zola as a person, but how clued up on Div. 1 would he be? This will now be the problem, whereby the new man needs time but won't be given it!!

SomersetSaint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

wacky44 wrote: Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

I'd be delighted with that. . I know we're all bit up in arms at the moment and that's understandable but I bet the upshot of all this will be that we'll end up with a better manager, playing better football and arriving in the Championship as a better team.

I like Zola as a person, but how clued up on Div. 1 would he be? This will now be the problem, whereby the new man needs time but won't be given it!!

St Retford wrote:

SomersetSaint wrote: Sounds like Cortese paniced before the Rovers game and had decided to sack AP regardless of the result. It also appears he had absolutely no plan in place to appoint a successor, which I find totally incredible. Who the hell is advising this man who knows nothing about football?!!!

I disagree with the first part of your post but in answer to the second I'd bet a shiny penny that the advisor is David Bick. He's the City PR that read out the watch story at Markus's service and who is also employed as a football 'consultant'. I suspect he was the man who recommended Pardew in the first place and is probably helping Nicola find a successor as we speak. Let's hope they take their time and find the right man.

miltonarchers wrote:
Anybody heard the rumour that NC sent AP a text after the Rovers game questioning why AP only gave Guly 5 mins. This apparently lead to a massive row and the sack for AP. If this is true its a bit disturbing

fancy that wrote:

SomersetSaint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

wacky44 wrote: Zola new favourite according to SkyBet...

I'd be delighted with that. . I know we're all bit up in arms at the moment and that's understandable but I bet the upshot of all this will be that we'll end up with a better manager, playing better football and arriving in the Championship as a better team.

I like Zola as a person, but how clued up on Div. 1 would he be? This will now be the problem, whereby the new man needs time but won't be given it!!

remind yourself - how clued up on the third division was pardew when he arrived? Shouldn't take a good manager with a footballing pedigree to suss it out, i'd say.
Gianfranco Zola's rossobianco army .... sounds good to me HAHA

seedhouse wrote:
Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job.
NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that.
However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP.
I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction!
My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP.
And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Red n White wrote:
Can't believe some of the idiots on here that are saying we shouldn't have sacked AP as he was the man for the job and the one to get us promoted as well as saying that now we're left with nothing and will be in a relegation scrap fight. If AP was any good he would have created a good enough team that anyone on here could manage to promotion with ease. He struggled tactically and sounds like something must have happened behind the scenes for him and two coaches to go with him. We should all back NC as he was doing everything he could to get ML to buy this club and will appoint the right man for the job

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

da boss wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

mental ? you,re the delusional person , the money spent on transfers etc has been from the fans pockets since the billionaires takeover , the usual crowd in the old division 3 was around 10000 , the fact saints get 20000 gates is where the money for transfers has come from , the sugar daddies have spent zippo on players , the fans bought those players.

Bristol Saint wrote:
sorry echo completley unintentional if my earlier post was in anyway wrong. Re the pard rumour mill. Anyway the real point I wanted to make was Ian Holloway would be a great choice for me did a great job at Bristol Rovers Plymouth and Blackpool ok only one blot on his CV perhaps. I'll shut up now before I say anything i shouldnt

Saintjon wrote:
Why was the Ian Holloway comment deleted?

Red n White wrote:

da boss wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

mental ? you,re the delusional person , the money spent on transfers etc has been from the fans pockets since the billionaires takeover , the usual crowd in the old division 3 was around 10000 , the fact saints get 20000 gates is where the money for transfers has come from , the sugar daddies have spent zippo on players , the fans bought those players.

You seem to forget the fact that we need to pay players wages for the whole season and the fact that ML paid off all our outstanding debt. Isn't this good tho? If we are a club that can run on it's own income then that shows we are heading in the right direction, which i would prefer to the other option of the owner loaning millions of pounds to the club and then expecting it paid back with interest! (For that just head down the road) This was always the aim of both ML and NC, to have a self-sufficient club that rarely needed money pumped into it.

swesaint wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Yeah, so how does that make you an expert in how someone has to run a football club?

da boss wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote:
Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

mental ? you,re the delusional person , the money spent on transfers etc has been from the fans pockets since the billionaires takeover , the usual crowd in the old division 3 was around 10000 , the fact saints get 20000 gates is where the money for transfers has come from , the sugar daddies have spent zippo on players , the fans bought those players.

da boss wrote:

Red n White wrote:

da boss wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

mental ? you,re the delusional person , the money spent on transfers etc has been from the fans pockets since the billionaires takeover , the usual crowd in the old division 3 was around 10000 , the fact saints get 20000 gates is where the money for transfers has come from , the sugar daddies have spent zippo on players , the fans bought those players.

You seem to forget the fact that we need to pay players wages for the whole season and the fact that ML paid off all our outstanding debt. Isn't this good tho? If we are a club that can run on it's own income then that shows we are heading in the right direction, which i would prefer to the other option of the owner loaning millions of pounds to the club and then expecting it paid back with interest! (For that just head down the road) This was always the aim of both ML and NC, to have a self-sufficient club that rarely needed money pumped into it.

where is the comparison ? premier league and third division ? man city,s billionaire owners put their hands in their pockets , none has been spent at sfc , just bought a great club and stadium for peanuts , this week has shone a big light on the situation and it,s far from good.

da boss wrote:

Red n White wrote:

da boss wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

da boss wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Atpost wrote: Situations Vacant STOOGE required Must be able to preside over chaos, spend nothing, take the blame for relegation to DIVISION2...and give press conferences at which the chairman is unconditionally praised for "getting us out of trouble" The problems are just beginning

Yes, because we've spent literally nothing in the last year and have a really crappy footballing set up with no academy or training facilities or anything. You literally couldn't be more wrong - well done you!

apart from buying the club and ground for a song ,no money has been spent, prove me wrong ? saints are getting 20000 crowds in a 10000 league , gleaming new training facilities ? where are they ? paying off pardew would have been better spent on the one good player needed ,its the fans money ,not nik cortinas.

da boss - WHAT?! No money spent?! Hey?! I suggest you go and read up on the finances spent in the past year and compare it with other teams in League 1. You must be mental.

mental ? you,re the delusional person , the money spent on transfers etc has been from the fans pockets since the billionaires takeover , the usual crowd in the old division 3 was around 10000 , the fact saints get 20000 gates is where the money for transfers has come from , the sugar daddies have spent zippo on players , the fans bought those players.

You seem to forget the fact that we need to pay players wages for the whole season and the fact that ML paid off all our outstanding debt. Isn't this good tho? If we are a club that can run on it's own income then that shows we are heading in the right direction, which i would prefer to the other option of the owner loaning millions of pounds to the club and then expecting it paid back with interest! (For that just head down the road) This was always the aim of both ML and NC, to have a self-sufficient club that rarely needed money pumped into it.

where is the comparison ? premier league and third division ? man city,s billionaire owners put their hands in their pockets , none has been spent at sfc , just bought a great club and stadium for peanuts , this week has shone a big light on the situation and it,s far from good.

seedhouse wrote:

swesaint wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Sadly (for me) I'm off with a bad back. I have taken the time to study NC's career. He has had an exceptional career in banking and has specialised in sports organisations and sportsmen - as a banker. You do not become banker to billionnaires without being outstanding at your job. NC was the man who persuaded ML to save us and I think we should all be hugely grateful for that. However, I see nothing in his CV that qualifies him to run a business based on people where man management skills are crucial. As a sponsor of the club I have heard numerous stories from staff at all levels, suppliers and sponsors that show he is impossible to deal with and is not liked. No one has said anything positive! I also know AP and he has told me a number of things which I wont repeat but this has been coming for a long time. ML was not anti AP. I was a guest at Marcus's memorial and the watch story was told by the club PR officer, appointed and responsible to NC. The way the story was told was as much about promoting NC as it was about paying tribute to Marcus. It made me think of the Christopher Walken scene in pulp fiction! My point is that if you were advertising the job of Executive Chairman of a football club the CV of NC would not meet the role profile or competancies required, that has now shown itself on numerous occasions, not just the sacking of AP. And before the likes of Eaglespark and Ludicris put the boot into me - I am the CEO of a £5m a year business which we built from scratch and it continues to rapidly grow. The reason for its success is the engagement of its staff in the day to day business and the relationship it holds with its customers and suppliers. We are open and frank with all involved, it really works. The nature of banking and particularly Swiss banking is one of great secrecy for obvious reasons. It is a cutural thing and doesn't work in other environments.

Yeah, so how does that make you an expert in how someone has to run a football club?

It doesn't and I'm certainly not claiming to be. But I do understand the basics of determining what competancies are required for a given role - be it receptionist or chairman - and then matching peoples skills and personality traits to that role. That's what HR experts and headhunters do for a living.

DJI wrote:
You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote:
You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply.

Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

DJI wrote:
You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote: You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply. Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

ive never heard such walter mitty rubbish in all my life, know wonder a lot of people on here are questioning your post , its so unbelievable!!!! if your so good and sucsessfull why didnt you buy the club, then we wouldnt have NC!! simples!

joelster wrote:
How would you feel is Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch and waved at us all as our new manager on Saturday? Be honest.

joelster wrote:
How would you feel is Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch and waved at us all as our new manager on Saturday?

Be honest.

seedhouse wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote: You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply. Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

ive never heard such walter mitty rubbish in all my life, know wonder a lot of people on here are questioning your post , its so unbelievable!!!! if your so good and sucsessfull why didnt you buy the club, then we wouldnt have NC!! simples!

Travelling Saint I'm not sure what your point is? DJI summoned it up, i'm lucky enough to be able to afford to be a very minor sponsor, part of my sponsorship is that of the position of the manager (check any programme look at the managers address and the logo on the page will tell you which company I run) and as such got to meet AP at the sponsors dinner. I've also had corporate tickets since SMS opened so have got to meet people as a result of that. I am not and never will be in a position to buy a football club as big as this, you need to be a billionnaire to be able to afford to do that properly and sadly I never will be. I texted AP to tell him what the rumours were and he texted me back. I posted that on here, it disappeared. Simples.

seedhouse wrote:
Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

joelster wrote:
how would you feel if Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch on Saturday and waved at us as our new manager ? Be honest

DJI wrote:

St Retford wrote:

SomersetSaint wrote: Sounds like Cortese paniced before the Rovers game and had decided to sack AP regardless of the result. It also appears he had absolutely no plan in place to appoint a successor, which I find totally incredible. Who the hell is advising this man who knows nothing about football?!!!

I disagree with the first part of your post but in answer to the second I'd bet a shiny penny that the advisor is David Bick. He's the City PR that read out the watch story at Markus's service and who is also employed as a football 'consultant'. I suspect he was the man who recommended Pardew in the first place and is probably helping Nicola find a successor as we speak. Let's hope they take their time and find the right man.

I believe Andy Oldknow was involved in the hiring of our former manager originally. I don't think Bick was on the scene back then.

joelster wrote:
how would you feel if Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch on Saturday and waved at us as our new manager ? Be honest

Jannersaint wrote:

joelster wrote:
how would you feel if Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch on Saturday and waved at us as our new manager ? Be honest

Gutted. Never done anything without loads a money. Took Fulham up on the back of work done by Mickey Adams who really deserves the most credit. When money bags Feyed moved in he wanted a big name manager.

Keegan = highly over rated.

Jannersaint wrote:

joelster wrote: how would you feel if Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch on Saturday and waved at us as our new manager ? Be honest

Gutted. Never done anything without loads a money. Took Fulham up on the back of work done by Mickey Adams who really deserves the most credit. When money bags Feyed moved in he wanted a big name manager. Keegan = highly over rated.

joelster wrote:
how would you feel if Kevin Keegan walked out onto the pitch on Saturday and waved at us as our new manager ? Be honest

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I have been out all day at the Dorset Steam Fair, I would reccomend it if you want something to take your mind off the Clubs problems, I come home and read some of the tosh that has appeared on this thread, reading between the lines, good managers are lining themselves up for the job, if you believe the numpties, it is a poisoned chalice that nobody in their right mind would consider while NC is in charge, facts don't bear that out. Come on in whoever you are, you will get support from the majority of us. There will always be a few who would find fault.

SaintSuccess wrote:
Why do I have the bloody flu in early September?

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote: You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply. Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

ive never heard such walter mitty rubbish in all my life, know wonder a lot of people on here are questioning your post , its so unbelievable!!!! if your so good and sucsessfull why didnt you buy the club, then we wouldnt have NC!! simples!

Travelling Saint I'm not sure what your point is? DJI summoned it up, i'm lucky enough to be able to afford to be a very minor sponsor, part of my sponsorship is that of the position of the manager (check any programme look at the managers address and the logo on the page will tell you which company I run) and as such got to meet AP at the sponsors dinner. I've also had corporate tickets since SMS opened so have got to meet people as a result of that. I am not and never will be in a position to buy a football club as big as this, you need to be a billionnaire to be able to afford to do that properly and sadly I never will be. I texted AP to tell him what the rumours were and he texted me back. I posted that on here, it disappeared. Simples.

point taken!!!

seedhouse wrote:
Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

ben dover wrote:
KEVIN BOND IS MY CHOICE.

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote: I have been out all day at the Dorset Steam Fair, I would reccomend it if you want something to take your mind off the Clubs problems, I come home and read some of the tosh that has appeared on this thread, reading between the lines, good managers are lining themselves up for the job, if you believe the numpties, it is a poisoned chalice that nobody in their right mind would consider while NC is in charge, facts don't bear that out. Come on in whoever you are, you will get support from the majority of us. There will always be a few who would find fault.

my thought too..........most of the "numpties" aren't saints supporters so i suggest ignore,or do what i do and belittle them....it's great fun !

st.athan saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote: I have been out all day at the Dorset Steam Fair, I would reccomend it if you want something to take your mind off the Clubs problems, I come home and read some of the tosh that has appeared on this thread, reading between the lines, good managers are lining themselves up for the job, if you believe the numpties, it is a poisoned chalice that nobody in their right mind would consider while NC is in charge, facts don't bear that out. Come on in whoever you are, you will get support from the majority of us. There will always be a few who would find fault.

my thought too..........most of the "numpties" aren't saints supporters so i suggest ignore,or do what i do and belittle them....it's great fun !

" good managers lining themselves up" - yeah right ok.White coats on way.

DJI wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

Seedhouse, I missed your full response but don't wish you to repeat it here for obvious reasons. However, my main point is that there are two sides to a story and in the absence of either party coming out publicly, I came to my own conclusions by reading beyond the headlines and will stand by them until such time as facts are presented on either side. Importantly, and to use a footballers' saying "We must take the positives out of this". They are: We still have a Club to support; We have willing sponsors such as yourself who continue to support the Club, no matter how small (your words, not mine); We have strong foundations (some of which the former manager can rightly lay claim to helping build); We have a match on Saturday and a chance to climb up the League; I wish your business prosperity as that will mean that you can continue to support SFC in the way that you do and given the opportunity, I would do exactly the same as you. My hope is that on Saturday, the Northam Choir sing like we know they can and drive the team forward to success. With Adam out and Barney suspended, they need us right now to be one voice.

travelling saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote: You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply. Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

ive never heard such walter mitty rubbish in all my life, know wonder a lot of people on here are questioning your post , its so unbelievable!!!! if your so good and sucsessfull why didnt you buy the club, then we wouldnt have NC!! simples!

Travelling Saint I'm not sure what your point is? DJI summoned it up, i'm lucky enough to be able to afford to be a very minor sponsor, part of my sponsorship is that of the position of the manager (check any programme look at the managers address and the logo on the page will tell you which company I run) and as such got to meet AP at the sponsors dinner. I've also had corporate tickets since SMS opened so have got to meet people as a result of that. I am not and never will be in a position to buy a football club as big as this, you need to be a billionnaire to be able to afford to do that properly and sadly I never will be. I texted AP to tell him what the rumours were and he texted me back. I posted that on here, it disappeared. Simples.

point taken!!!

so your'e not gonna beat him up then ?

nooooooooo just you...you knob!!

leechyboy wrote:
Latest from sky bet and other betting sites = Adkins into 1/2 favourite. Biggest favourite since market opened and all bookies in agreement for the first time. What do we think?

saintssaintssaints wrote:

leechyboy wrote: Latest from sky bet and other betting sites = Adkins into 1/2 favourite. Biggest favourite since market opened and all bookies in agreement for the first time. What do we think?

whos that? One question has he got any team promoted? And preferaly from L1 to Championship. Is it Ian Adkins? isnt he sh*t?

saintssaintssaints wrote:

leechyboy wrote: Latest from sky bet and other betting sites = Adkins into 1/2 favourite. Biggest favourite since market opened and all bookies in agreement for the first time. What do we think?

whos that? One question has he got any team promoted? And preferaly from L1 to Championship. Is it Ian Adkins? isnt he sh*t?

Rudolf Hucker wrote:
Sean O'Driscoll seems a good manager. Good man managment & motivator. What do others think?

Rudolf Hucker wrote:
Sean O'Driscoll seems a good manager. Good man managment & motivator. What do others think?

Patrick80's wrote:
I couldn't stand it any longer so I shot EagleSpark !

slugger wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote: You know seedhouse, I have to congratulate you on the personal risks you take of running your own business and employee others, in today's climate. It has also afforded you the opportunity to sponsor the Club in someway and get to meet and mix with key people and that gives you a better insight than most of us. So I cannot dispute what you say are some of the feelings towards our Chairman as you have an inside track that I don't. However, I measure people on what they do as well as what they say. Over my many years in business, I have come across "great men" who appeared to all as real stand-up guys, always standing a round of drinks at the bar, full of charisma. I also found that behind that, they had hidden personal agendas and were often up to no good but were always one step ahead of the bullet. They were often found denying culpability even in the face of the truth. So I would put it to you that if you are such great pals with the former manager, ask him why he was sacked? I bet you will get a story about NC hating him and using ML's death as an excuse to get rid, never his fault of course. But one thing you can be sure of, the truth will out and the nature of his character will show through in due course. I am not saying that NC is without fault, but I am also willing to entertain that on this occassion, he might well be in the right. I would rather work for someone that has high standards and good ethics that someone that is always friends with everyone, as I would at least know where I stood. I fully supported our former manager and was disappointed when I heard he had gone but, if rumours are true about the reasons why, then I am glad he has gone, rgardless of my opinions on the guy that pulled the trigger!

DJI. I answered your post, including AP's rebuttal of the accusations. My post has been pulled, it was simply the transcription of my text to him and his reply. Echo, as you are obviously sensoring this can you please inform us as to why you deleted my post?

ive never heard such walter mitty rubbish in all my life, know wonder a lot of people on here are questioning your post , its so unbelievable!!!! if your so good and sucsessfull why didnt you buy the club, then we wouldnt have NC!! simples!

Travelling Saint I'm not sure what your point is? DJI summoned it up, i'm lucky enough to be able to afford to be a very minor sponsor, part of my sponsorship is that of the position of the manager (check any programme look at the managers address and the logo on the page will tell you which company I run) and as such got to meet AP at the sponsors dinner. I've also had corporate tickets since SMS opened so have got to meet people as a result of that. I am not and never will be in a position to buy a football club as big as this, you need to be a billionnaire to be able to afford to do that properly and sadly I never will be. I texted AP to tell him what the rumours were and he texted me back. I posted that on here, it disappeared. Simples.

point taken!!!

so your'e not gonna beat him up then ?

nooooooooo just you...you knob!!

i rest my case !!!!

DJI wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

Seedhouse, I missed your full response but don't wish you to repeat it here for obvious reasons. However, my main point is that there are two sides to a story and in the absence of either party coming out publicly, I came to my own conclusions by reading beyond the headlines and will stand by them until such time as facts are presented on either side. Importantly, and to use a footballers' saying "We must take the positives out of this". They are: We still have a Club to support; We have willing sponsors such as yourself who continue to support the Club, no matter how small (your words, not mine); We have strong foundations (some of which the former manager can rightly lay claim to helping build); We have a match on Saturday and a chance to climb up the League; I wish your business prosperity as that will mean that you can continue to support SFC in the way that you do and given the opportunity, I would do exactly the same as you. My hope is that on Saturday, the Northam Choir sing like we know they can and drive the team forward to success. With Adam out and Barney suspended, they need us right now to be one voice.

Tirau Dan wrote:
I think it needs saying that it beggars belief that a CEO of a company that was the sponsor of Alan Pardew is allowed to castigate the Chairman of SFC on an internet thread when for obvious legal reasons he cannot defend himself and would not stoop so low as to do it in the internet threads of the local paper anyway.

If the sponsors company want to attack the chairman (especially if they want to represent Alan Pardew via text) I suggest they do it in print in the open.

Dean Hammond says the players support Wilkie, he says they take the blame for the Swindon defeat but I'd say it had a lot to do with the poison effected fans unsettling them. If the alleged truth from behind the scenes comes out there may be a consequences.

The ordinary supporters of the club need this rumour sniping and intravenous poison to stop. Lets get it put to bed and move on.

COYR

st.athan saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote: I have been out all day at the Dorset Steam Fair, I would reccomend it if you want something to take your mind off the Clubs problems, I come home and read some of the tosh that has appeared on this thread, reading between the lines, good managers are lining themselves up for the job, if you believe the numpties, it is a poisoned chalice that nobody in their right mind would consider while NC is in charge, facts don't bear that out. Come on in whoever you are, you will get support from the majority of us. There will always be a few who would find fault.

my thought too..........most of the "numpties" aren't saints supporters so i suggest ignore,or do what i do and belittle them....it's great fun !

" good managers lining themselves up" - yeah right ok.White coats on way.

the third hardest man in sholing wrote:

Rudolf Hucker wrote: Sean O'Driscoll seems a good manager. Good man managment & motivator. What do others think?

Personally mate i think most people are barking up the wrong tree,all this talk of a "big name" manager is a bit daft and we should be looking at talent and experience and a desire to play passing football as Cortese has stated he wants us to create the "Southampton way" which im all for.Last year Leeds and Norwich and Millwall got out of this league with Simon Grayson and Paul Lambert Kenny Jackett at the helm,none of these guys are what you would call big name managers.

wellers wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

And what were Phils reasons?

TheJoiners wrote:
Where did my post go ?

Tirau Dan wrote:
I think it needs saying that it beggars belief that a CEO of a company that was the sponsor of Alan Pardew is allowed to castigate the Chairman of SFC on an internet thread when for obvious legal reasons he cannot defend himself and would not stoop so low as to do it in the internet threads of the local paper anyway. If the sponsors company want to attack the chairman (especially if they want to represent Alan Pardew via text) I suggest they do it in print in the open. Dean Hammond says the players support Wilkie, he says they take the blame for the Swindon defeat but I'd say it had a lot to do with the poison effected fans unsettling them. If the alleged truth from behind the scenes comes out there may be a consequences. The ordinary supporters of the club need this rumour sniping and intravenous poison to stop. Lets get it put to bed and move on. COYR

seedhouse wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote: I think it needs saying that it beggars belief that a CEO of a company that was the sponsor of Alan Pardew is allowed to castigate the Chairman of SFC on an internet thread when for obvious legal reasons he cannot defend himself and would not stoop so low as to do it in the internet threads of the local paper anyway. If the sponsors company want to attack the chairman (especially if they want to represent Alan Pardew via text) I suggest they do it in print in the open. Dean Hammond says the players support Wilkie, he says they take the blame for the Swindon defeat but I'd say it had a lot to do with the poison effected fans unsettling them. If the alleged truth from behind the scenes comes out there may be a consequences. The ordinary supporters of the club need this rumour sniping and intravenous poison to stop. Lets get it put to bed and move on. COYR

Dan, of all the people on here I am staggered by your post. I believe my original post about NC complimented him and thanked him for his help in saving our club. I printed a text from me to AP and his reply. I cannot give you the reality of what actually happened, but i can give you the response of one of the men that was involved in the infamous 10 minute meeting. I have taken a serious amount of abuse for trying to feed back the small extra info I am sometimes able to gain, I felt other fans would be interested in this. I realise that I am purely opening myself up for attack, not just on the site but undoubtably within the club that will be monitoring this, so I shall take your advice and shut up.

seedhouse wrote:

DJI wrote:

seedhouse wrote: Phil Burner of the Echo has just emailed me and confirmed the removal of my post and the reasons why.

Seedhouse, I missed your full response but don't wish you to repeat it here for obvious reasons. However, my main point is that there are two sides to a story and in the absence of either party coming out publicly, I came to my own conclusions by reading beyond the headlines and will stand by them until such time as facts are presented on either side. Importantly, and to use a footballers' saying "We must take the positives out of this". They are: We still have a Club to support; We have willing sponsors such as yourself who continue to support the Club, no matter how small (your words, not mine); We have strong foundations (some of which the former manager can rightly lay claim to helping build); We have a match on Saturday and a chance to climb up the League; I wish your business prosperity as that will mean that you can continue to support SFC in the way that you do and given the opportunity, I would do exactly the same as you. My hope is that on Saturday, the Northam Choir sing like we know they can and drive the team forward to success. With Adam out and Barney suspended, they need us right now to be one voice.

Totally agree, and nothing will be achieved by singing the name of ex managers. Everyone sings "we're the Northern..." or "We're the Itchen..." If you listen very, very carefully you may here "We're the corporate over here" I once got 3 people to join in....

Harleysaint wrote:
Bought 2 packets of seeds to sow around my friends Memorial Bench...Poppys and wild flowers. Realy hope that next spring a few of each choose to bloom thereby enhancing the overall effect.In sowing said seeds I was horrified to discover that a packet claiming to possess 800 seeds only contained 65!!...yes I did count them!....Point is this..You just dont know untill you open the pressie...I'm sure that our New Manager will be able,capable,and if allowed will move us nearer to where we all want to be.Personally I believe that change is allways hard but good cant follow unless its wanted!!!...Lets just get behind "The Team"....COYRAW(DEAN FOR A WHILE)MACHINE!!!!

northamrowcc wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

Northern_Saint wrote:
You whineing morons! I almost hope NC packs his bags and recommends the Liebherr familie to get the h**l out to. One can only hope they don't read all the s**t you're regurgitating all over the place.

How dare you come on here and be reasonable. We want a hangin' and the posse is whooped up into a beserker type frenzy! You can take your calm and rational views, your fårikål and your Cladonia Rangiferina with you too! Get the long coats, Ma! (can't do smiley face!)

I hope he does pack his bags and get the hell out he is acting like a despot and don't think you will get anyone better than AP in league 1 yeah I bet they are all lining up to work for this lunatic lol