Horror loss to quicken search for Saints boss (From Daily Echo)

jerseysaint wrote:
if the job doesnt go to Eddy Howe im going to eat my saints shirt.
He has performed miracles at the Cherries.

jerseysaint wrote:
if the job doesnt go to Eddy Howe im going to eat my saints shirt.
He has performed miracles at the Cherries.

Fides wrote:
Under pressure sports editor Simon Carter once again fails to publish the real reason why Pardew was sacked. He also fails to mention there was at least one snapper from Rochdale at pitch-side. Speculation has already started over his replacement.

Fides wrote:
Under pressure sports editor Simon Carter once again fails to publish the real reason why Pardew was sacked. He also fails to mention there was at least one snapper from Rochdale at pitch-side. Speculation has already started over his replacement.

jerseysaint wrote:
not keen on getting called a skate ive supported saints for 34 years thanks i happen to think eddie howe is a really good young manger and would give our boys some passion back

Southampton boy wrote:
I cannot believe that just after 8 weeks of teh new season we are looking at going down!! since we lost out manager AP we have not played football and when the new man take over who ever it is it will take him time to sort everything to his liking. Will NC let him run the team?? I am pig sick with it all we started teh season full of hope. We are out of what I believe was teh only cup we had a chance of winning this year a another trip to the wembely but all we will have left is the dream of going up and even that is being tested. Please; Please; get the man in NOW we have not got the time to F*** around we need points and we need them NOW????? SC Word: trip game!! ya but in our case we surly trip our self up!!!

Baddesley dave wrote:
i think the club have ran out of money, zero money has been spent since the old guy died and the revamp of staplewood never got started ..... i feel let down by cortese as all the promises have come off the rails !!

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Forget about managers for a moment - there seeems to a direct correlation between SFC's woes over the last decade and meddling/feuding boardrooms.

To have had 13 managers since 2000 is utterly ridiculous - each one has their own ideas, brings in their own men. No one can ever settle and the club never gets past year one of a 5-year plan before is torn up and a new one written!!

Please please dont take Eddie - he is not ready for the kind of expectations and low tolerance levels that SFC fans have - we are glad if he manages to name a full compliment of substitutes!

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Eddie Howe is a good looking lad - from the rumours that I have heard, Cortese would be better off appointing Peter Beardsley or Carlos Tevez!

Fides wrote:
Under pressure sports editor Simon Carter once again fails to publish the real reason why Pardew was sacked. He also fails to mention there was at least one snapper from Rochdale at pitch-side. Speculation has already started over his replacement.

mike saint wrote:
No Wow Factor Then!
I am expecting someone like Sven Goran Eriksson, Martin O'Neill, Glenn Hoddle or Kevin Keegan not a young muppet.

RedArmy1 wrote:
Saints would welcome the appointment of a new Manager soonest.

They have 4 games coming up that they could potentially lose them all especially Swindon and Sheff Wednesday and will struggle against MK Dons and Colchester.

They will be sitting firmly at the bottom of League One.

They do not know how to play defensively as a Team and noboby can say who will score the next goal and when that will come - if at all in the next 4 games.

Having Barnard - Lambert and the pincher movement of Lallana and Puncheon could be quite a potent force for any team.

Punch could be a decent player if he really works hard in Training at hitting the target (the goal - it is big enough !!)

The Defensive 4 are not too bad if the whole team has a defensive mindset and the the defenders are also protected by the Team.

Lots of debate at the weekend about the Goalkeeper Club captain Kelvin Davis and giving Bart some times between the sticks.

Bottom Line is lets not get embroiled in who should be our favourite Manager - Lets get a good quality track proven Manager in now to get the feel good factor back at Southampton Football Club.

Dean Wilkins I am sure is a good coach - but a Good Manager is needed and the appointment made this week.

If not the betting money is for a good Swindon Win at the weekend.

Jannersaint wrote:
KK would be hopeless. Too stressed and not talented at all without serious funds (which anyone can do).

The thisisscunthorpe pages make me feel Adkins is the man. The scunny chairman says he doesn't want to talk about it. I think that were it not in the pipeline we would have seen a denial.

Adkins would be a better appointment that AP. Maybe not with AP's track record but a much better tactical manager who plays better football.

The Bournemouth fan that thinks Saints is a sideways move for EH needs to get real. I appreciate you're referring to league position but club size and infrastructure would be a massive learning curve for EH.

7saint7 wrote:

Jannersaint wrote: KK would be hopeless. Too stressed and not talented at all without serious funds (which anyone can do). The thisisscunthorpe pages make me feel Adkins is the man. The scunny chairman says he doesn't want to talk about it. I think that were it not in the pipeline we would have seen a denial. Adkins would be a better appointment that AP. Maybe not with AP's track record but a much better tactical manager who plays better football. The Bournemouth fan that thinks Saints is a sideways move for EH needs to get real. I appreciate you're referring to league position but club size and infrastructure would be a massive learning curve for EH.

king kev is one of the best around with the player's we have he would turn erm in to a force not to be messed with. under Adkins we would not make the play-offs get real pal

Barrie Thatcher wrote:
Regarding the appointmentof manager forget Keegan O.NEILL BROWN these people would not come. Mr Cortese has to have the final word, whatever the differences with Pardew,just read the national newspapers Cortese is regaded as a joke rather like Lowe towards the end of his tenure. So at the end of the day get the next yes man in and lets try and get the season started.

Red n White wrote:

7saint7 wrote:

Jannersaint wrote: KK would be hopeless. Too stressed and not talented at all without serious funds (which anyone can do). The thisisscunthorpe pages make me feel Adkins is the man. The scunny chairman says he doesn't want to talk about it. I think that were it not in the pipeline we would have seen a denial. Adkins would be a better appointment that AP. Maybe not with AP's track record but a much better tactical manager who plays better football. The Bournemouth fan that thinks Saints is a sideways move for EH needs to get real. I appreciate you're referring to league position but club size and infrastructure would be a massive learning curve for EH.

king kev is one of the best around with the player's we have he would turn erm in to a force not to be messed with. under Adkins we would not make the play-offs get real pal

Adkins has been there and done it twice with a small team like scunthorpe so why not with southampton? Keegan and Hoddle have been out of the game too long. Please not Toshack - useless for Wales. Howe - no experience of having money to spend same as Adkins. Zola - no experience of promotion. I would like to see either Mowbray - good football and did well at West Brom, or Brown - worked wonders to get Hull to the prem and keep them there, otherwise i quite like the sound of Dan Petrescu who has done well - won the romanian title with outsiders, and UEFA Cup experience, his team (Unirea) beat Rangers and Sevilla, currently managing in Russia, but may want to get into the english game and one for the future only 42.

Ewbankska wrote:
Keegan - Great @ N'cle, then legged it. Fulham OK from 4th tier to 3rd, then England job then legged it. Man City - good for promo to Prem, then legged it. N'cle, no good at all really, then legged it. Could be good but with a demanding chairman, he might well cry off again. Might be a sentimental appointment for the fans but not a hard-headed choice at all.

Alicesdad wrote:
Just a quick dose of reality might help focus on what's important here. 1) No big name will come here. we are league one!! . Its laughable that these rumours persist. 2) Those who call for NC to leave are missing a significant point. i.e He is the owners appointed representative and engineered the purchase of the club. Criticise him and you criticise the owners. He will only leave if they sell the club. Does anyone want that? As far as I can see he talsk sense whenever he is interviewed, and his business acumen is second to none. Sacking Pardew must have been an awful decision to have to make but he faced up to whetever circumstances prevailed and decided to take action. Good for him. Owners do not have to know the square root of zero squared to run a club. They DO have to employ the right people, and AP clearly fell short for this to have happened. 3) The owners may be rich, but they will be viewing the reaction to recent events from the fans. The endless whining and criticism, and the mindless chanting in some areas at the games will be making them wonder if the fans really are behind the club. Markus Leibherr was well received here but sadaly departed before his dream could be realised. A significant proportion of the fans reaction will be making his family wonder if this investment is worth it. 4)Isn't it curious, the lack of response from AP? No formal statements, no expression of surpise, no 'his side of the story' no defensive statement via the press. Just rumours and puffs from irrelevant and insignificant sources. The longer his silence continues the more it looks like he accepts they were right. It's not too late for this season to be rescued , turned around and eventually end happily. Think positively, support the club and move forward.

Saint Bean wrote:
Well it says on the guardian there have been 50 applicants including 1 serving prem manager wonder who that is? The article also speculates on just about every reason AP was sacked but suspiciously doesnt mension possible trouser snake issues.

wallop wonderboy wrote:

Alicesdad wrote: Just a quick dose of reality might help focus on what's important here. 1) No big name will come here. we are league one!! . Its laughable that these rumours persist. 2) Those who call for NC to leave are missing a significant point. i.e He is the owners appointed representative and engineered the purchase of the club. Criticise him and you criticise the owners. He will only leave if they sell the club. Does anyone want that? As far as I can see he talsk sense whenever he is interviewed, and his business acumen is second to none. Sacking Pardew must have been an awful decision to have to make but he faced up to whetever circumstances prevailed and decided to take action. Good for him. Owners do not have to know the square root of zero squared to run a club. They DO have to employ the right people, and AP clearly fell short for this to have happened. 3) The owners may be rich, but they will be viewing the reaction to recent events from the fans. The endless whining and criticism, and the mindless chanting in some areas at the games will be making them wonder if the fans really are behind the club. Markus Leibherr was well received here but sadaly departed before his dream could be realised. A significant proportion of the fans reaction will be making his family wonder if this investment is worth it. 4)Isn't it curious, the lack of response from AP? No formal statements, no expression of surpise, no 'his side of the story' no defensive statement via the press. Just rumours and puffs from irrelevant and insignificant sources. The longer his silence continues the more it looks like he accepts they were right. It's not too late for this season to be rescued , turned around and eventually end happily. Think positively, support the club and move forward.

Well said-I believe the sacking was not football related and NC was left with no option. A statement of some sort would clear the air and perhaps prevent NC from having to take the wrath of some fans which might be undeserved. I thought you were taking over and I was going to work with you-I have dubbened my boots and banged in some new leather studs so just say the word and I will report to the ground

JohnItaly wrote:

Saint Bean wrote: Well it says on the guardian there have been 50 applicants including 1 serving prem manager wonder who that is? The article also speculates on just about every reason AP was sacked but suspiciously doesnt mension possible trouser snake issues.

Wouldn't be surprised if the 1 from the Premier league (if indeed there is one) is Avram Grant. He must be under some pressure at West Ham.

Offthebench wrote:
I think the next person Cortese puts in the hot seat will give us a clear indication on the future. Let's be honest Pardew was under pressure to get results which should rule out a young and upcoming manager being put in place, as the 5 year plan doesn,t allow time for it. Let's get a manager in that has done the kind of job we need in the past.

ssherbie28 wrote:
Does anyone else think that APs departure was down to the arrival of Guly .I dont think Pards thought much of him and didnt want him.After seeing him play the last 10 mins against Bristol rovers i agree with Pards .He hasnt done much from what i see of it in the last 2 games........COYR... ..

seven777 wrote:
keegan director of football with Alan Shearer in the hot seat. its not going to happen i know but dream team for a Saints fan.

Dickosfc wrote:
There's been a lot of talk of Cortese sticking his nose into football matters. Can anybody please give me some concreate evidence and/or facts to support this????

Day Dreamer wrote:
Howe? Rather have Fred Dineage to be honest. Only one man for the job. King Kev at least he would quit before NC sacked him!

wallop wonderboy wrote:

Alicesdad wrote: Just a quick dose of reality might help focus on what's important here. 1) No big name will come here. we are league one!! . Its laughable that these rumours persist. 2) Those who call for NC to leave are missing a significant point. i.e He is the owners appointed representative and engineered the purchase of the club. Criticise him and you criticise the owners. He will only leave if they sell the club. Does anyone want that? As far as I can see he talsk sense whenever he is interviewed, and his business acumen is second to none. Sacking Pardew must have been an awful decision to have to make but he faced up to whetever circumstances prevailed and decided to take action. Good for him. Owners do not have to know the square root of zero squared to run a club. They DO have to employ the right people, and AP clearly fell short for this to have happened. 3) The owners may be rich, but they will be viewing the reaction to recent events from the fans. The endless whining and criticism, and the mindless chanting in some areas at the games will be making them wonder if the fans really are behind the club. Markus Leibherr was well received here but sadaly departed before his dream could be realised. A significant proportion of the fans reaction will be making his family wonder if this investment is worth it. 4)Isn't it curious, the lack of response from AP? No formal statements, no expression of surpise, no 'his side of the story' no defensive statement via the press. Just rumours and puffs from irrelevant and insignificant sources. The longer his silence continues the more it looks like he accepts they were right. It's not too late for this season to be rescued , turned around and eventually end happily. Think positively, support the club and move forward.

Well said-I believe the sacking was not football related and NC was left with no option. A statement of some sort would clear the air and perhaps prevent NC from having to take the wrath of some fans which might be undeserved. I thought you were taking over and I was going to work with you-I have dubbened my boots and banged in some new leather studs so just say the word and I will report to the ground

mack chinnon wrote:

Offthebench wrote:
I think the next person Cortese puts in the hot seat will give us a clear indication on the future. Let's be honest Pardew was under pressure to get results which should rule out a young and upcoming manager being put in place, as the 5 year plan doesn,t allow time for it. Let's get a manager in that has done the kind of job we need in the past.

Peter Reid springs to mind.

Fides wrote:
Under pressure sports editor Simon Carter once again fails to publish the real reason why Pardew was sacked. He also fails to mention there was at least one snapper from Rochdale at pitch-side. Speculation has already started over his replacement.

slugger wrote:
adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

Saint Damo wrote:
FFS, This man was a physio!! Jesus, if we get him in then we are really in trouble. We need someone who has experience of getting a team to the premiership from the lower leagues. What are we going to do when we get out of this league, sack Nigel Adkins and get someone with experience to get us to the prem?!! Right now I would take Phil Brown. Or hoddle....Not Howe and deffo not Adkins.. Otherwise we will be on manager number 14 by xmas.

Jannersaint wrote:

slugger wrote: adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

I think they're both 8/10 in there own right. One a better man manager and one better tactically. Only Mowbray and O'Neill are prefered to these two in my opinion.

slugger wrote:

Jannersaint wrote:

slugger wrote: adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

I think they're both 8/10 in there own right. One a better man manager and one better tactically. Only Mowbray and O'Neill are prefered to these two in my opinion.

agreed but un realistic in my view......i also think that some peoples (understandable)poin ts that it'll be a yes man are wide of the mark.....there's no evidence that cortese is a control freak or that he meddles in footballing matters,but plenty imo that he's a shrewd businessman with a goal !!!

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
The Echo understands that the new boss will be a young and up and coming English boss!! ....so where did they get this information from I wonder! Why hasn't someone tried to get hold of Keegan and what his views on the position would be? Maybe NC wouldn't consider a big fans favourite like that as he'd lose all his power over the club...the way the season has started though we need a manager who is going to give a real lift to the fans and players...If the manager doesn't have Championship experience then aren't we going to be in the same position next year even if we do get promoted?

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

Jannersaint wrote:

slugger wrote: adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

I think they're both 8/10 in there own right. One a better man manager and one better tactically. Only Mowbray and O'Neill are prefered to these two in my opinion.

agreed but un realistic in my view......i also think that some peoples (understandable)poin ts that it'll be a yes man are wide of the mark.....there's no evidence that cortese is a control freak or that he meddles in footballing matters,but plenty imo that he's a shrewd businessman with a goal !!!

just to add the the above........i also belive that whoever the new man is,he'll have to be prepared to work with a director of football,that could be a sticking point for some .

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

Jannersaint wrote:

slugger wrote: adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

I think they're both 8/10 in there own right. One a better man manager and one better tactically. Only Mowbray and O'Neill are prefered to these two in my opinion.

agreed but un realistic in my view......i also think that some peoples (understandable)poin ts that it'll be a yes man are wide of the mark.....there's no evidence that cortese is a control freak or that he meddles in footballing matters,but plenty imo that he's a shrewd businessman with a goal !!!

just to add the the above........i also belive that whoever the new man is,he'll have to be prepared to work with a director of football,that could be a sticking point for some .

Salar wrote:
Telegraph reports "Lucerne manager Rolf Fringer has emerged as a new candidate for the Sotouthampton job". Sorry for my ignorance but Who?

Bronson69 wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

Jannersaint wrote:

slugger wrote: adkins could be the one.....i still favour phill brown,but then what do i know ?

I think they're both 8/10 in there own right. One a better man manager and one better tactically. Only Mowbray and O'Neill are prefered to these two in my opinion.

agreed but un realistic in my view......i also think that some peoples (understandable)poin ts that it'll be a yes man are wide of the mark.....there's no evidence that cortese is a control freak or that he meddles in footballing matters,but plenty imo that he's a shrewd businessman with a goal !!!

just to add the the above........i also belive that whoever the new man is,he'll have to be prepared to work with a director of football,that could be a sticking point for some .

Afternoon everyone , good to see british gas engineers working hard as always !

Jesus_02 wrote:
Its oh so quite Its oh so still Its oh so quite and peaceful until……. The Murdoch press hate him He’s looking after Saints I like Cortese, he is carrying out Liebherrs wishes and “doing things the right way” He isn’t an idiot and AP is very, very quite. If we end up being in L1 for another year so be it, I would rather that than have some crook like, Venables or Arry “carnt be trusted” Redknapp SW late-help

Offthebench wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

Offthebench wrote: I think the next person Cortese puts in the hot seat will give us a clear indication on the future. Let's be honest Pardew was under pressure to get results which should rule out a young and upcoming manager being put in place, as the 5 year plan doesn,t allow time for it. Let's get a manager in that has done the kind of job we need in the past.

Peter Reid springs to mind.

Agreed, Peter Reid, Phil Brown, someone like that. I am all for giving a new up and coming manager a chance but I think we need someone with abit about em who will get the team working and anyone that doesn,t make the grade can warm the bench. Puncheon springs to mind, he must have a clause in his contract that he can,t be sub'd. Beats 3 invisable players in midfield then runs into someone. SHOCKING

Bronson69 wrote:
And grace them you certainly do ! ;) security word girl path - that legend saint gets. Everywhere !

nw saint wrote:
I would love to see Nigel Pearson come back to southampton. He was a very good manager for us

Legend Saint wrote:
Yeah Mowbray did well at Celtic didn't he. Joke. Its got to be Phill Brown. Lets not forget Chris Coleman has been out of a job for a while ;). Can other posters stop engaging with slugger. Need to ignore vermin. We need someone with proven experiance in all the divisions especially if Cortese wants his plan to stay on track.

Jannersaint wrote:

Saint Damo wrote:
FFS, This man was a physio!! Jesus, if we get him in then we are really in trouble. We need someone who has experience of getting a team to the premiership from the lower leagues. What are we going to do when we get out of this league, sack Nigel Adkins and get someone with experience to get us to the prem?!! Right now I would take Phil Brown. Or hoddle....Not Howe and deffo not Adkins.. Otherwise we will be on manager number 14 by xmas.

Mourinho was a translater to Bobby Robson before getting the Porto job.

travelling saint wrote:

Legend Saint wrote: Yeah Mowbray did well at Celtic didn't he. Joke. Its got to be Phill Brown. Lets not forget Chris Coleman has been out of a job for a while ;). Can other posters stop engaging with slugger. Need to ignore vermin. We need someone with proven experiance in all the divisions especially if Cortese wants his plan to stay on track.

hey legend...SLUGGER been onto echo crying that we`re picking on him!! ha ha what a baby!! pmsl

french fan club wrote:
Si l'histoire sur Internet est vrai que la raison pour laquelle AP a perdu son emploi. Je dirais bien fait NC. Pas besoin de gens qui n'ont pas la morale de travailler à SFC attendons avec impatience un nouveau départ et la promotion de cette saison.

Legend Saint wrote:

travelling saint wrote:

Legend Saint wrote: Yeah Mowbray did well at Celtic didn't he. Joke. Its got to be Phill Brown. Lets not forget Chris Coleman has been out of a job for a while ;). Can other posters stop engaging with slugger. Need to ignore vermin. We need someone with proven experiance in all the divisions especially if Cortese wants his plan to stay on track.

hey legend...SLUGGER been onto echo crying that we`re picking on him!! ha ha what a baby!! pmsl

Doubt it, its why he gets up in the morning. Thinks he can compete but as mentioned before hes a small fish in a big pond and can't cut it. Seems to be on here all day posting away, obviously on benefits eating away at our taxes yet people still give him the time of day. Don't get it myself. See Brown is fav now, could do a lot worse. Like that dross at swansea.

french fan club wrote:
Si l'histoire sur Internet est vrai que la raison pour laquelle AP a perdu son emploi. Je dirais bien fait NC. Pas besoin de gens qui n'ont pas la morale de travailler à SFC attendons avec impatience un nouveau départ et la promotion de cette saison.

Saints4Eva wrote:

Offthebench wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

Offthebench wrote: I think the next person Cortese puts in the hot seat will give us a clear indication on the future. Let's be honest Pardew was under pressure to get results which should rule out a young and upcoming manager being put in place, as the 5 year plan doesn,t allow time for it. Let's get a manager in that has done the kind of job we need in the past.

Peter Reid springs to mind.

Agreed, Peter Reid, Phil Brown, someone like that. I am all for giving a new up and coming manager a chance but I think we need someone with abit about em who will get the team working and anyone that doesn,t make the grade can warm the bench. Puncheon springs to mind, he must have a clause in his contract that he can,t be sub'd. Beats 3 invisable players in midfield then runs into someone. SHOCKING

Offthebench - have you looked where Plymouth are sitting in the L1 table - doesn't exactly show that Peter Reid is doing a such a good job since taking over at Plymouth. I do believe he was at SMS on Saturday though. I understand that Rickie is upset that AP has gone - but he really need to stop sulking like a spoilt 2 year old and get back to banging in the goals.