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    Velleity wrote:
    OSPREYSAINT wrote:
    Velleity wrote:
    The laws of the game are clear. The ref's decision is final. Good and bad decisions balance out. Remember Fonte being a yard outside the box against Brighton when we got a penalty? You win some, you lose some and over a season you do fine.

    It's over; move on to the next game and let's win it.
    Cannot accept this argument, if a Referees decison is final, it must therefore be the correct one, the argument that they even out over the Season is tenuous, this, one decision could wreck all of the hard work for the whole of the season, do you think that is fair and good for the game? There are four officials on the pitch,yet it seems only one is allowed to make the decision, this has to change for the good of the game. One senior Official should make the final decision, but it makes no sense when the technology available can be utilised to ensure fair play and decisions that cannot be criticised because the evidence is irrefutable.
    Regarding "the argument that they even out over the Season is tenuous, this, one decision could wreck all of the hard work for the whole of the season" just give it a little attention via a thought experiment (as Einstein used to call them)

    If the fixture list had been in a different order and Middlesbrough had been the first game of the season, that incident would be forgotten.
    Imagine a fixture list moreover where the Brighton game was the one we'd played yesterday with that appalling decision on the Fonte "penalty".

    Would you now be baying for a technology solution? Of course not.

    By the way, the "one decision" that could wreck the season may have been in the Bristol City match - or some other forgotten loss, but you're fixated on the one yesterday. That's natural (look up "Availability heuristic" if you want to waste half an hour) but misguided.

    Refs make mistakes. It's not a conspiracy and you really do win some and lose some.
    Yeh, what you said, it was just an opinion, obviously I was out of order, it really is OK for Referees to get wrong then? To put it a different way, I thought Derbys 2nd goal at Nottarf yesterday looked to be as a result of player diving, but it doesn't matter anyway."
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Lallana: It was "crazy" not to send off Hines

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ADAM Lallana branded referee Tony Bates’ decision not to send off Middlesbrough defender Seb Hines as “crazy”.

With the scores level at 1-1 early in the second half, the midfielder was racing through on goal when he was tripped from behind by the Boro centre half just outside the area.

Bates gave the free-kick, but to Saints’ shock did not produce a card of any kind.

Although a covering defender was arguably coming across to prevent a red, the foul looked to warrant a yellow at the very least.

That would have meant a dismissal for Hines, who had been booked minutes earlier, and would likely have changed the entire complexion of the game, which Boro went on to win 2-1.

After the match, Lallana was at a loss to explain the decision not to dismiss Hines.

“I just remember taking a touch and looking up,” he said. “I was going to shoot, but I thought I was quite far out, so I took another touch further away from the defender, and just getting brought down.

“I remember straight away thinking ‘is it a pen, is it a free-kick?’ because I didn’t know where he was.

“Straight away in my head I’m thinking ‘He’s off’ because I remember a second before looking up and the keeper was just there.

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“So getting up and thinking ‘He’s going to pull a red out here’ to not give a card at all is crazy really. I don’t know what much else to say.

“I didn’t even know who brought me down. But if it was Hines he’d already been booked.

“I haven’t even seen it again, but I’m straight away thinking ‘that’s a straight red, I’m through on goal.’”

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