Saints Transfer Rumour Round-up - Summer 2012 (From Daily Echo)

moulefanggoule wrote:
come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote: come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that. Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:
come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that.

Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

stjimmy76 wrote:

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:
come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that.

Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

Well said Dan. moulefanggoule, I really hope I don't sit next to you next time I'm at stmary's, it'd be moan moan moan I imagine.

Tubbystubb wrote:
What about Matty Holland, I hear he's at SMS having a medical.


Thought I'd get that one in quick, lets face it a transfer window without a Matty Holland rumour would be sooooo boring.

stjimmy76 wrote:

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote: come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that. Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

Well said Dan. moulefanggoule, I really hope I don't sit next to you next time I'm at stmary's, it'd be moan moan moan I imagine.

moulefanggoule wrote:

stjimmy76 wrote:

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote: come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that. Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

Well said Dan. moulefanggoule, I really hope I don't sit next to you next time I'm at stmary's, it'd be moan moan moan I imagine.

Don't worry I don't sit in the chapel so there's no chance of that happening.

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:

stjimmy76 wrote:

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:
come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that.

Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

Well said Dan. moulefanggoule, I really hope I don't sit next to you next time I'm at stmary's, it'd be moan moan moan I imagine.

Well said Dan and stjimmy. MGRA is just having a go for the sake of it. I for one found the article informative and the timing just right with no more Saints games to look forward to for a while. You might be interested to see that within the last hour Sky are now reporting the rumour about Michu being linked to us...here is the link...

http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11827/7722603/Michu-

plans-Vallecano-talk

s

george chivers wrote:
I would like to see a quick centre back to play between Jose and Jos.

Then change the formation to five at the back with two wing backs, Fox and Richardson. That way Fox and Richardson's defensive duties are reduced and they can concentrate running up the lines and crossing the ball which is their strength.

I would also like to see a box to box central midfielder and a quick wide player. Plus two strikers and an additional keeper to back up and then take over from Kelvin in the future.

I don't think we can get away with 442 in the Prem. Teams play continental football in the Prem. Where as in the Championship teams play English football.

A friend of mine is a Saints fan living in Toyko, been there 32 years, born in Hampshire. He has worries about Tadanari Lee's fitness. Evidently he has had some very serious injuries in the past.

Having said that, I am sure he was checked out carefully before we signed him.

sotonfc wrote:
all the players they have put up are relagation players, wtf people they are dump. u need to look abroad not kevin doyle he is ****, i could smash more goals in then him, if i see players like them getting bought were are heading straight back down again. u need winners not **** championship players. they cant make it against arsenal and chelsea, to poor. we need players like cisse or a jelavic or aidy mcgeady we can snap aidy up. not cisse or jel as they have made it in the prem. well guarentee we will see matt holland **** robbie savage maybe and a few **** players. dont count urself lucky saints fan becuase adkins aint a top class manager who can get winners, pardew got us guly. lambert fonte. adkins as got us billy fat arse sharp. were see

Gossie. wrote:
Whom ever comes in will be right out of left field, just like Hoover and Chung, but the speculation will be great, wonder how many times Michael Owen will be linked to a move South

RisingSon wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I would like to see a quick centre back to play between Jose and Jos.

Then change the formation to five at the back with two wing backs, Fox and Richardson. That way Fox and Richardson's defensive duties are reduced and they can concentrate running up the lines and crossing the ball which is their strength.

I would also like to see a box to box central midfielder and a quick wide player. Plus two strikers and an additional keeper to back up and then take over from Kelvin in the future.

I don't think we can get away with 442 in the Prem. Teams play continental football in the Prem. Where as in the Championship teams play English football.

A friend of mine is a Saints fan living in Toyko, been there 32 years, born in Hampshire. He has worries about Tadanari Lee's fitness. Evidently he has had some very serious injuries in the past.

Having said that, I am sure he was checked out carefully before we signed him.

I must admit I haven't followed J-league for quite some time, but I'm not aware of any serious injuries.

D4n1el wrote:
http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11700/7726950/Eyes-o

n-Canaries-ace

...quite a few clubs going for him though apparently, so it's not a very strong rumour, like the rest of them I guess.

Optimist wrote:
Kasper schemical GK , Marc muniesa CB , Sebastian ruddy MF
Alberto Paloschi ST.

All rumoured on a rumour site.

I know Marc Muniesa would be a fantastic acquisition but what will our wage structure be like and how much will that continually affect us.

I still think that new players will be almost unheard of , but well scouted , and up for it.

george chivers wrote:

RisingSon wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I would like to see a quick centre back to play between Jose and Jos.

Then change the formation to five at the back with two wing backs, Fox and Richardson. That way Fox and Richardson's defensive duties are reduced and they can concentrate running up the lines and crossing the ball which is their strength.

I would also like to see a box to box central midfielder and a quick wide player. Plus two strikers and an additional keeper to back up and then take over from Kelvin in the future.

I don't think we can get away with 442 in the Prem. Teams play continental football in the Prem. Where as in the Championship teams play English football.

A friend of mine is a Saints fan living in Toyko, been there 32 years, born in Hampshire. He has worries about Tadanari Lee's fitness. Evidently he has had some very serious injuries in the past.

Having said that, I am sure he was checked out carefully before we signed him.

I must admit I haven't followed J-league for quite some time, but I'm not aware of any serious injuries.

My friend in Toyko tells me it is common in Japan for sports people to cover up injuries so they don't lose face.

Would you agree with that?

RisingSon wrote:

george chivers wrote:

RisingSon wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I would like to see a quick centre back to play between Jose and Jos.

Then change the formation to five at the back with two wing backs, Fox and Richardson. That way Fox and Richardson's defensive duties are reduced and they can concentrate running up the lines and crossing the ball which is their strength.

I would also like to see a box to box central midfielder and a quick wide player. Plus two strikers and an additional keeper to back up and then take over from Kelvin in the future.

I don't think we can get away with 442 in the Prem. Teams play continental football in the Prem. Where as in the Championship teams play English football.

A friend of mine is a Saints fan living in Toyko, been there 32 years, born in Hampshire. He has worries about Tadanari Lee's fitness. Evidently he has had some very serious injuries in the past.

Having said that, I am sure he was checked out carefully before we signed him.

I must admit I haven't followed J-league for quite some time, but I'm not aware of any serious injuries.

My friend in Toyko tells me it is common in Japan for sports people to cover up injuries so they don't lose face.

Would you agree with that?

Japanese sport has changed a lot over the last thirty or so years. I believe it was very common for sportmen to play through injuries, not to save face but not to let their team or coach or whatever down. In some cases, I believe players were told they would not be picked if they didn't play. I don't think this is common now.

Of course, there may be exceptions.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Optimist wrote:
Kasper schemical GK , Marc muniesa CB , Sebastian ruddy MF
Alberto Paloschi ST.

All rumoured on a rumour site.

I know Marc Muniesa would be a fantastic acquisition but what will our wage structure be like and how much will that continually affect us.

I still think that new players will be almost unheard of , but well scouted , and up for it.

Hope we sign a few players that our posters can actually spell correctly, we haven't got a good track record for that, I think Fox is the only one they have got 100% right so far.

magnette wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Optimist wrote:
Kasper schemical GK , Marc muniesa CB , Sebastian ruddy MF
Alberto Paloschi ST.

All rumoured on a rumour site.

I know Marc Muniesa would be a fantastic acquisition but what will our wage structure be like and how much will that continually affect us.

I still think that new players will be almost unheard of , but well scouted , and up for it.

Hope we sign a few players that our posters can actually spell correctly, we haven't got a good track record for that, I think Fox is the only one they have got 100% right so far.

...isn't it spelled focks?

Alicesdad wrote:
Lively start to the day. I wouldnt mind betting that the first named acquisition isn't on anyones list today. I love the way that Nigel and Nicola work. However I would love the club to get just ONE massive signing - someone of the status and calibre of the Keegan signing all those years ago. I still remember not believing it until I saw it on the news in the evening. I expect we will sign some strong players in several positions.. but just ONE MASSIVE name would be wonderful .. It wont happen this season though. .we need to establish ourselves .. but I can dream. I don't mind this thread - it gives us something to banter about. I've had the occasional pop at the Echo in the past but overall they do what they do adequately. It's only the obvious gap fillers that annoy me now and then.

hedge end bob wrote:
Just seen BOBBY CHARLTON in STMARY'S car park.

joelster wrote:
OK here's my thoughts (if you care)-

I would love to see a "Statement" signing- what do you mean? What I mean is, when we signed Lambert in league 1 it was a statement of intent but it also lifted everyone and sent a message. Love it. This does so many things.
When we signed Billy Sharp it did the same thing.

So... I would like us to get at least one BIG signing that can damage defenses in the Premier League- maybe Rodrigues for say $6 million. Or, maybe Michu.

And then after that- 1 Center Defender who is better than fonte or hooiveld. (brings them up, and brings competition)

And then one "Scrapper" not really sure who fits that mould, and would love to hear from you guys on this.

And then 1 utility player who can play right wing or right defence.

Thoughts??

Get rid of (with appreciation)-
Barnard, Forte, Seaborne, Butterfield... who else??

SaintMax wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Just seen BOBBY CHARLTON in STMARY'S car park.

you've mistaken the parking attendent - he has a massive comb over.

sotonfc wrote:
all the players they have put up are relagation players, wtf people they are dump. u need to look abroad not kevin doyle he is ****, i could smash more goals in then him, if i see players like them getting bought were are heading straight back down again. u need winners not **** championship players. they cant make it against arsenal and chelsea, to poor. we need players like cisse or a jelavic or aidy mcgeady we can snap aidy up. not cisse or jel as they have made it in the prem. well guarentee we will see matt holland **** robbie savage maybe and a few **** players. dont count urself lucky saints fan becuase adkins aint a top class manager who can get winners, pardew got us guly. lambert fonte. adkins as got us billy fat arse sharp. were see

InCortesewetrust wrote:
older post,if you have debated it before apology's, but what is peoples views on this? I don't think its got any credibility http://www.goal.com/ en-gb/news/2897/cham pionship/2012/03/29/ 2999081/mystery-cons ortium-in-talks-to-b uy-southampton-for-2 5m

Dan Kerins wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:
come on Echo is this really needed right now when the football season isn't even finished? Why not have a rumour mill for the 2013/2014 season as well while you're at it? Unbelievable.

If you don't like it, don't click on it - simple as that.

Rumours are being printed for all clubs - all this is doing is putting all the Saints one together so supporters that are interested can find them easily.

andysaint wrote:
Not a rumour but id like to see Tom Ince from Blackpool.
Ince and Lallana would tear defences apart.

milton road wrote:
Actually I like Holmes as a player. Be sorry to see him go. Ashley you kicked out 10 players, i don't think we are going to replace 10 and our youngsters are still too young to step up regularly. I think Connelly, Jaidi, Holmes, Forte, Bart, possibly Forecast and Dickenson. Forecast to possibly replaced by Dovey. Bart by a young keeper like Schemical With maybe 5 outfield players mainly from abroad. Holmes and Forte have been on loan. Jaidi and Connelly have been good servants but have not really figured,nor has Dickinson. Forecast has never been in the picture really. Whilst if Bart has not staked his claim in the lower leagues he is unlikely to in the prem. Sharp took Connelly's place and Fox , Dickinson. Only my thoughts.

MGRA wrote:

andysaint wrote:
Not a rumour but id like to see Tom Ince from Blackpool.
Ince and Lallana would tear defences apart.

if blackpool do not go up, then blackpool will need money, Ince maybe not a pipe dream..

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
Heres my ins and out wish list

In Joe Ledley attacking Mid fielder from Celtic
Tom Ince from Blackpool
Matt Upson from Stoke City left sided Centre back
Chris Baird Right sided Centre back or right back as back up for Richardson.
James Vardy from Fleetwood good prospect for the future.
Also we need a good back up striker for Lambert a Adkins special.
Alan Macgregor Rangers and Scotland keeper.
The out list
Jadi Retired replacement Baird
Seabourne replacement Upson
Punshion replacement Tom Ince
Holmes
Forte replacement Vardy
Barnard replacement Nigel's choice
Butterfield
Deane
Bart replacement Macgregor
Forcaste

Thats my list around 15 Million Mark. Ledley would be around 5 million.

milton road wrote:
didn't realise Dovey had gone, is still on Saints player list.

When relegated from the championship, we had a young French player, who was told it would effect his chances of playing for France. Yet a young lad who came to us at 18 in our darkest season, who had no reason to be loyal, stayed with us when it was easier to leave. The offers were there. Thankfully his country saw his talent and he continued playing internationally.
Thank you Morgan.

To Kelvin
Who could of opted for West Ham during our darkest hour. Stayed with us and was league 1 best keeper and championship best keeper.
To Adam
Who could of gone to most clubs but stayed through all the heartbreak.

You guys are the soul of this club. We can never thank you enough for that loyalty and the rewards now are justly deserved.
I have not forgotten all those that came afterwards.Thank you all
Yet these three stayed through administration and the darkest days this club has ever seen. When it would have been easy to get up and run. You who kept the faith when chaos reigned.
Thank you again.

Shoong wrote:
Yakubu...

Don't think I'll be getting my football news from Goal.com any time soon then!

boilerman wrote:

milton road wrote:
didn't realise Dovey had gone, is still on Saints player list.

When relegated from the championship, we had a young French player, who was told it would effect his chances of playing for France. Yet a young lad who came to us at 18 in our darkest season, who had no reason to be loyal, stayed with us when it was easier to leave. The offers were there. Thankfully his country saw his talent and he continued playing internationally.
Thank you Morgan.

To Kelvin
Who could of opted for West Ham during our darkest hour. Stayed with us and was league 1 best keeper and championship best keeper.
To Adam
Who could of gone to most clubs but stayed through all the heartbreak.

You guys are the soul of this club. We can never thank you enough for that loyalty and the rewards now are justly deserved.
I have not forgotten all those that came afterwards.Thank you all
Yet these three stayed through administration and the darkest days this club has ever seen. When it would have been easy to get up and run. You who kept the faith when chaos reigned.
Thank you again.

Nearly my exact post from last week, loyalty does have it rewards.
Look at Dann and Johnson as two examples of players showing no loyalty to Birmingham, look where it's got them, relegation again.
We must be careful of players like this, we must ask the question what is their main goal? is it just money ? if so jog on.

SaintPark wrote:

InCortesewetrust wrote:
older post,if you have debated it before apology's, but what is peoples views on this? I don't think its got any credibility http://www.goal.com/ en-gb/news/2897/cham pionship/2012/03/29/ 2999081/mystery-cons ortium-in-talks-to-b uy-southampton-for-2 5m

Ouch*

that was like pulling the fittest bird ever, who takes you back to all night.... then you wake up to your face being punched in by her boyfriend, then chucked outside, your wallet gone. when you pick yourself up of the pavement a nice STD is causing your inside legs to chaf a bit.....

It must have some cred, why not? from a business point of view if they don't do football and they can get their money back (plus some for prem). As Markus loved us then it would then be a moral dilema for his daughter and the family.
1 did markus stay stick with us
2 did he say its up to you
at the end of the day he would of said make sure we are looked after by his family or a new buyer. We wouldn't be here without them anyway so...... would be a crying shame though

lowe esteem wrote:

SaintPark wrote:

InCortesewetrust wrote:
older post,if you have debated it before apology's, but what is peoples views on this? I don't think its got any credibility http://www.goal.com/ en-gb/news/2897/cham pionship/2012/03/29/ 2999081/mystery-cons ortium-in-talks-to-b uy-southampton-for-2 5m

Ouch*

that was like pulling the fittest bird ever, who takes you back to all night.... then you wake up to your face being punched in by her boyfriend, then chucked outside, your wallet gone. when you pick yourself up of the pavement a nice STD is causing your inside legs to chaf a bit.....

It must have some cred, why not? from a business point of view if they don't do football and they can get their money back (plus some for prem). As Markus loved us then it would then be a moral dilema for his daughter and the family.
1 did markus stay stick with us
2 did he say its up to you
at the end of the day he would of said make sure we are looked after by his family or a new buyer. We wouldn't be here without them anyway so...... would be a crying shame though

...warming to the theme raised by my fellow patients...
I have several Japanese friends, one who used to feign injury as a Sumo wrestler, and he would be an IMMENSE signing. Another one had to feign injury as he was a sometime Baseball player, and the World Series didn't happen too often, it was always against Uncle Sam and he was down the pecking order, supremely fit bloke called Kelvin Mouly Fan BHA Never Moans always selected as Defensive Back Stop.

lowe esteem wrote:

lowe esteem wrote:

SaintPark wrote:

InCortesewetrust wrote:
older post,if you have debated it before apology's, but what is peoples views on this? I don't think its got any credibility http://www.goal.com/ en-gb/news/2897/cham pionship/2012/03/29/ 2999081/mystery-cons ortium-in-talks-to-b uy-southampton-for-2 5m

Ouch*

that was like pulling the fittest bird ever, who takes you back to all night.... then you wake up to your face being punched in by her boyfriend, then chucked outside, your wallet gone. when you pick yourself up of the pavement a nice STD is causing your inside legs to chaf a bit.....

It must have some cred, why not? from a business point of view if they don't do football and they can get their money back (plus some for prem). As Markus loved us then it would then be a moral dilema for his daughter and the family.
1 did markus stay stick with us
2 did he say its up to you
at the end of the day he would of said make sure we are looked after by his family or a new buyer. We wouldn't be here without them anyway so...... would be a crying shame though

...warming to the theme raised by my fellow patients...
I have several Japanese friends, one who used to feign injury as a Sumo wrestler, and he would be an IMMENSE signing. Another one had to feign injury as he was a sometime Baseball player, and the World Series didn't happen too often, it was always against Uncle Sam and he was down the pecking order, supremely fit bloke called Kelvin Mouly Fan BHA Never Moans always selected as Defensive Back Stop.

Should OV said:
Well done Echo, more ins than outs on your listing...you and The Saints are clearly doing something right...Watt IS people's views?
PS everyone wants an aggresive talented midfield dynamo, and they just don't exist in today's game...more's the pity.

milton road wrote:
didn't realise Dovey had gone, is still on Saints player list.

When relegated from the championship, we had a young French player, who was told it would effect his chances of playing for France. Yet a young lad who came to us at 18 in our darkest season, who had no reason to be loyal, stayed with us when it was easier to leave. The offers were there. Thankfully his country saw his talent and he continued playing internationally.
Thank you Morgan.

To Kelvin
Who could of opted for West Ham during our darkest hour. Stayed with us and was league 1 best keeper and championship best keeper.
To Adam
Who could of gone to most clubs but stayed through all the heartbreak.

You guys are the soul of this club. We can never thank you enough for that loyalty and the rewards now are justly deserved.
I have not forgotten all those that came afterwards.Thank you all
Yet these three stayed through administration and the darkest days this club has ever seen. When it would have been easy to get up and run. You who kept the faith when chaos reigned.
Thank you again.

Confucious wrote:
I'd like to see Jennifer Aniston in a Saints shirt next season.

frenchvic wrote:

Confucious wrote:
I'd like to see Jennifer Aniston in a Saints shirt next season.

I'd like to see all of Jennifer Aniston not in a Saints shirt NOW.

Confucious wrote:

frenchvic wrote:

Confucious wrote:
I'd like to see Jennifer Aniston in a Saints shirt next season.

I'd like to see all of Jennifer Aniston not in a Saints shirt NOW.

If it was possible to sign top celebrity players, I'd like Billy Whiz from the Beano up front and Desperate Dan from the Dandy in central defence. (The Road Runner is not available).

Onwards and Upwards wrote:
A couple of rumours I've heard from within the club are that we are looking to bring Surman home from Norwich and are also very keen on Peter Whittingham! Would be 2 great signings!

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip

otent, omniprescent, stays what???

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip


otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip



otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

MGRA wrote:
another point about Guly, almost everyone I speak to agrees that he can only flourish in the Prem as part of a 4-5-1 formation.... Anything else and we would loose too much possession in midfield.... On recent performances I would agree..

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip




otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:
another point about Guly, almost everyone I speak to agrees that he can only flourish in the Prem as part of a 4-5-1 formation.... Anything else and we would loose too much possession in midfield.... On recent performances I would agree..

i NEVER talk tactics , managers job .

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip





otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip






otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

i thought he looked better in our last 5 games ....... proves we all see it different , the manager sees more than all of us put together !

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip







otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

i thought he looked better in our last 5 games ....... proves we all see it different , the manager sees more than all of us put together !

agree again... he did... but for me the Prem means he has to have a more constrained role or be a part of a more fluid attack....in which case ( getting back to my original point ) I can't see Surman being a requirement.... Guly and Surman in the same team as Sir Ricky , Lallana etc etc does not compute.... that was my point..

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip








otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

i thought he looked better in our last 5 games ....... proves we all see it different , the manager sees more than all of us put together !

agree again... he did... but for me the Prem means he has to have a more constrained role or be a part of a more fluid attack....in which case ( getting back to my original point ) I can't see Surman being a requirement.... Guly and Surman in the same team as Sir Ricky , Lallana etc etc does not compute.... that was my point..

as i said , i never talk tactics (or team selection for that matter) .......... leave it to the pro's , they haven't let me down yet .

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip









otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

i thought he looked better in our last 5 games ....... proves we all see it different , the manager sees more than all of us put together !

agree again... he did... but for me the Prem means he has to have a more constrained role or be a part of a more fluid attack....in which case ( getting back to my original point ) I can't see Surman being a requirement.... Guly and Surman in the same team as Sir Ricky , Lallana etc etc does not compute.... that was my point..

as i said , i never talk tactics (or team selection for that matter) .......... leave it to the pro's , they haven't let me down yet .

so would you have Surman in if you could choose ? good addition ?

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Guly will get a hat trick against Manure next season...you read it here first! :O)

trueiron wrote:
who ever nigel buys or lets go will only benifit the club...but i hope he lets a few go on loan to scunny and lets help both clubs out..get your youth players some games and get us in the playoffs....up the saints and come on scunny ... and maybe a pre season game

hedge end bob wrote:
I like Guly, the guys got talent. If you remember when Peter Osgood first came to us , he was passing the ball into space where he thought the player would be. It did'nt take him long to work out his brain was two yards faster than our players. I feel Guly is like this sometimes. Hope he do get a chance will be interesting to see how he copes?.

Hobson82 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
I like Guly, the guys got talent. If you remember when Peter Osgood first came to us , he was passing the ball into space where he thought the player would be. It did'nt take him long to work out his brain was two yards faster than our players. I feel Guly is like this sometimes. Hope he do get a chance will be interesting to see how he copes?.

Guly is our marmite player, you either love him or hate him. Every team has a player like Guly.
It will be interesting to see who will shine in the Premier League, I bet there will be someone who we all think hasn't a chance but will take the Premier League by storm, someone like Guly or De Ridder.

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Just read this post on the Sport site....posted by Espaniel during their conversations about donations to save their club
"Dearest Pomponi fan. I am lovely woman whos papa is died in a motor bang in Zaire. my papa was very richman in government with 100 MILLION us dollars in account of oil bank but i need your dearest help to help me help the money to go to pompey. All i need is for you sincerest pomponi fan to pledge 100 English poundings from you bank account so i can release the money to be free to me and you. If you helping me I will earn you 20% of 100 MILLION us dollars. So you have 10 MILLION us dollars for your pompey. Clock is happening fastly so please email me with your kindness. Sincerly. Princess Okowumbe Kyembu"
....made me chuckle anyway :O)

warrens 76 wrote:

willygetaway wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

Bungy53 wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip














otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

i thought he looked better in our last 5 games ....... proves we all see it different , the manager sees more than all of us put together !

agree again... he did... but for me the Prem means he has to have a more constrained role or be a part of a more fluid attack....in which case ( getting back to my original point ) I can't see Surman being a requirement.... Guly and Surman in the same team as Sir Ricky , Lallana etc etc does not compute.... that was my point..

as i said , i never talk tactics (or team selection for that matter) .......... leave it to the pro's , they haven't let me down yet .

so would you have Surman in if you could choose ? good addition ?

if nigel wants him then i want him ......... who know's our team better ?

Are you two a couple?

"Bloody hell" I thought Switzerland was boring!

Of course if you carry on up the B312 there is a very nice cafe, we had tea served in china would you believe, the tea was pleasantly hot and to my wife's delight they served butter not margarine which was rather pleasant in and of itself, anyway after our repast we continued in a notherly direction for approximately 31 minutes......etc

Ahh another slow day in Mountuex
DO you like Harry connick junior ?

"wont ave im in the ouse"

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
I noticed that I have received some critical comments about who should move on. I will justify my actions by saying that some of the players on the list are out of contract at the end of the season. Both Ryan Dickson and Jonathan Forte are not good enough and thats way they were out on loan most of the season. Also as someone who has supported the Saints for over forty years certain players who should be role models for young people have been very poor representives of this club. Also slate me if you will, but I am thinking about the future of this Great club. I understand Reading have axed 13 players already including Brian Howard. I read in the press the other day that Southampton Norwich and Reading are all after Snodgrass from Leeds United. It would fill the gap because neither Chaplow and Guly are natural players in that position. I also heard on Sky that Rodriguez only has one year left on his contract. Thus value wise his value drops . Eight or Six Million is out of the question for a player with only a year left. Prehaps Mr Howe should have taken the money last year. In the current market with one year left his value would be between 2.5 million to 3million. Come January it could down to 1.5 million as he would have only six months left on his contract. Nicola and Nigel are very shrewed and prehaps they might do a deal later in the year if Everton don,t sign him. Curtis Davies is a possible addition depending on Birmingham in the play offs. He is a good strong centre have who has played in the Premier league still in his twenties and would be a good competition for Hoover Maritn and Fonte. Buying from the Championship can work. When Big Chris was manager he brought wisely from the old second division and third division. The likes of Cockerill, Forrest, Flowers, Clarke, Hobson, Moore, Adams, and Richard Hall all played their part in keeping us in the top flight. Also Nicholl had faith to blend them with youth. Such as Le tisser, Shearer, Maddison, tthe Wallace twins, Blake, Maskell , Steve Davis, and Andy Cook, Jeff Kenna and of course Baneli along with a couple of non league players Dodd from Bath City and Jon Gittens from Padget Rovers. Thus with the 18 to 20 players who played last season, some highly talented players from the under 21s and under 18s plus 6 good additions we will cope. Previous managers be the days of Sky football money did it ie Big MC and Chris. I was last at because I suggested a budget of 15 Million for players, considering we spent nearer 10 Million last season. I seem to remember Dav Jones had a budget of 10 Million back in the season 1998 to 1999 and in those days we were still at the Dell. At then end of the day I have every belief in Nigel and Nicola to take us forward this season. If Nigel prepares the squad like he did last summer we will be off to a flyer.

MGRA wrote:
I maybe wrong of course but I think people who asume we are bringing in 6 new players are waaaaaay off the mark. I think NA will just fix the obvious problems and start the season knowing he has got a squad that can play together. A right winger, holding central midfielder and a centre half... I would be amazed if he brings in 6 new players. Also people seem to forget that finishing second in the championship on the amount of points we had pretty much equates us to Premiership side placed 2/3rds down the table. So what we have now is good enough to compete, we don't need an overhaul, just 3 obvious holes...

milton road wrote:
Yes EL Santo good post.
He said over the next weeks there would be some heartbreaking decisions over his squad.
I think he will bring in 6 players, which is what he did last season.
We play a squad system so it does not mean they will all be in the first team together. Remember we can pick 18 players on a match day.
We are allowed to play players under 21 in addition to the 25 man squad. So there is no need to push them into the squad when we can use them when needed.
I do not see us leaving ourselves short on squad players. So I think only 6 or so will go.
I am not sure where the facts are that state we would of finished 2/3rds down the premiership.
I would go with the fact that we only took 11pts out of thirty against the other top 6 sides and had a minus goal difference as a better indication of where we are and what we need to do.

milton road wrote:
Yes EL Santo good post. He said over the next weeks there would be some heartbreaking decisions over his squad. I think he will bring in 6 players, which is what he did last season. We play a squad system so it does not mean they will all be in the first team together. Remember we can pick 18 players on a match day. We are allowed to play players under 21 in addition to the 25 man squad. So there is no need to push them into the squad when we can use them when needed. I do not see us leaving ourselves short on squad players. So I think only 6 or so will go. I am not sure where the facts are that state we would of finished 2/3rds down the premiership. I would go with the fact that we only took 11pts out of thirty against the other top 6 sides and had a minus goal difference as a better indication of where we are and what we need to do.

DUBAI-SAINT wrote:
LUKAKU is requesting to be loaned out for the season from Chelsea. I say sign him up. He can prove his self with us and will maybe offer a bit of top quality class!

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts. Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

nbastar wrote:
I've heard a rumour that Matt Upson and Thomas Sorensen could be coming to the south coast.

boilerman wrote:

nbastar wrote:
I've heard a rumour that Matt Upson and Thomas Sorensen could be coming to the south coast.

No Thankyou

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

mack chinnon wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

Im with you Alan.

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

WobblyCat wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

You miserable g1t! Alan I’ve been to Eastleigh many times so I understand why you’re so grumpy but there’s no need to be nasty. Confucius is one of our most loved and fluffiest posters and in moments of medication induced clarity he can be very insightful. I will admit that some of his posts are obviously a cry for help but under the mental health act he has as much right to post on here as anyone else. Here's a thought, but bear in mind I’m no brain surgeon (failed maths o’level), if his posts rile you so much move on to the next one, unless of course he’s posted two consecutively then skip the next two, well you get the picture. I have to add, from a football point of view, your post hasn’t contributed much!

St Retford wrote:

slugger wrote:

St Retford wrote:

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

Im with you Alan.

never catch me making inane posts off topic ......... why oh why is is not bbq weather ?

*Leans over fence and sucks teeth*

Well, Slugs, it's that low pressure over the continent, I reckon. It's sucking in all that wet weather and the wind speed is making it feel even colder. Good news for the hosepipe ban though!!!etc

we don't have a hosepipe ban in southampton (yet), left my hose running for 4 weeks now in an attempt to get one (to pee off the gardeners and car washers) but it keeps flipping raining !

We don't have one in Manchester either (god's been trying to drown the place for about 1,000 years to no discernable effect so it would be a bit rich) but the papers say I should be worried SICK about it.

Is there anyone here who does have one?

Is this inane or off topic? I don't think so...

rocketone wrote:
Jordan Rhodes scores again! someone is going to take a gamble on him and it may as well be Saints !
He will score goals at any level, and he is young enough for Nigel to work his majic on him. A strike force to choose from of Ricky,Tad,Billy,Guly

,Lee + Jordan, all types of players in there so we could compete against all types of defence. The only one missing is a Peter Crouch type ! Do not think Connoly will be around, sorry !

george chivers wrote:
I don't know who we will sign any more than anybody else does. But my intuition tells me if Saints are in the bottom 6 in mid November Nigel Adkins will be fired and replaced by Roberto Di Matteo. Di Matteo thinks whatever success he has with Chelsea won't be good enough for him to be retained for next season. And I think Cortese would jump at the chance to bring him to Saints.

Nigel won't deserve it and I don't want it to happen, but I think it is a real possibility.

It will be interesting to see how much money is spent in the window. If it is relatively low I think Nigel's days are numbered.

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

Alicesdad wrote:
The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant.
I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available.
The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club.

Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
How about Docker Walker,Brian O Neil.Jimmy
Case oh they were the days!

george chivers wrote:
I don't know who we will sign any more than anybody else does. But my intuition tells me if Saints are in the bottom 6 in mid November Nigel Adkins will be fired and replaced by Roberto Di Matteo. Di Matteo thinks whatever success he has with Chelsea won't be good enough for him to be retained for next season. And I think Cortese would jump at the chance to bring him to Saints.

Nigel won't deserve it and I don't want it to happen, but I think it is a real possibility.

It will be interesting to see how much money is spent in the window. If it is relatively low I think Nigel's days are numbered.

Alicesdad wrote:
The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant.
I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available.
The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club.

Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
if Guly stays..silent..omnip





otent, omniprescent, stays what???

guly is quality , i can't believe some people are watching the same player as me ....... ps , nigel seems to agree !

hmmmmmm.... Guly is quality or dire, nothing inbetween. Pompey away was incredible, the guy did not have a clue, a week or two earlier brilliant... I can't make my mind up why but thats how I see him. I have a hunch he will be awesome next season in the Prem. But can't see him, Surman, Sir Ricky, Lallana etc etc in the same squad..

we all have off days ...... how people can say guly is lazy is beyond my comprehension , the prem will suit him so i got no worries there .

no I agree he is not lazy... but in that game he did what he does too often IMHO... he drifts and looses his bearings... 4-5-1 gives him more licence... towards the end of this season he was increasing looking like a square peg in a round hole... he reminds me of Kenwyn Jones in the way he finds space but in a 4-4-2 in the Prem I see problems... still.... Nigel will not need my help in that ... ;0)

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

St Retford wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts. Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

Not at all. You, sir, would do well to heed the words of Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko:

"When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie."

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
The Squad aint good enough no balls in Midfieild or down the Flanks.We will drop likea can of Andrews Salts!

saintdownunder wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
How about Docker Walker,Brian O Neil.Jimmy
Case oh they were the days!

lol fattyx , player of the calibire of jimmy ,yes definately, but docker and o`neil emmmmmmmmm ,wont win many with just nine players on the pitch lol.dennis hollywood be a good choice too.

george chivers wrote:

Alicesdad wrote: The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant. I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available. The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club. Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

As the person who suggested that RDM may take over from Nigel Adkins I should point out I wasn't knocking him. I am very happy with what he has done. My comments were based on three things. One an article I read in The Times which said RDM was a personal friend of Nicola Cortese and Cortese had consulted him before he decided to take the job with Saints. Two, the owners of the club, in my opinion will want to do one of two things with Southampton F.C. Move it forward rapidly and get it into the top half of the Premier League and keep it there, and improve it's playing staff so Europe is a possibility. Or stay in the Premier League and sell the club on for a good profit. To achieve either of those things, if you look at other clubs, there is a need to employ a manager with more experience than Nigel to achieve that. Unless Cortese is willing to let Nigel develop at his own pace, say like Moyes at Everton. Personally I don't think Cortese is that type of man. I think he requires close to instant results and is driven by tight time scales and stretch targets linked to bonuses. After all Nigel is our third manager since Cortese became CEO. I also think Nigel's end of the season comments about leaving the club at some point, wasn't just a throw away remark. I believe Cortese will have set him a stretch target for next season and won't be happy with just say finishing 13th or thereabouts. Where as I and probably many Saints fans would be happy with that level of performance and hope to see an improvement the following season I hope that explains my earlier comment, it wasn't a lack of respect. I think what he has achieved is fantastic. But I do think if we are not in the top 10 by say November he will be vulnerable. I would like to see him stay and develop. But I guess I just don't think CEO's who have worked for Swiss investment banks think that way! RDM was also successful with MK Dons, WBA and as well as Chelsea.

Itchen hero wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Alicesdad wrote: The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant. I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available. The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club. Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

As the person who suggested that RDM may take over from Nigel Adkins I should point out I wasn't knocking him. I am very happy with what he has done. My comments were based on three things. One an article I read in The Times which said RDM was a personal friend of Nicola Cortese and Cortese had consulted him before he decided to take the job with Saints. Two, the owners of the club, in my opinion will want to do one of two things with Southampton F.C. Move it forward rapidly and get it into the top half of the Premier League and keep it there, and improve it's playing staff so Europe is a possibility. Or stay in the Premier League and sell the club on for a good profit. To achieve either of those things, if you look at other clubs, there is a need to employ a manager with more experience than Nigel to achieve that. Unless Cortese is willing to let Nigel develop at his own pace, say like Moyes at Everton. Personally I don't think Cortese is that type of man. I think he requires close to instant results and is driven by tight time scales and stretch targets linked to bonuses. After all Nigel is our third manager since Cortese became CEO. I also think Nigel's end of the season comments about leaving the club at some point, wasn't just a throw away remark. I believe Cortese will have set him a stretch target for next season and won't be happy with just say finishing 13th or thereabouts. Where as I and probably many Saints fans would be happy with that level of performance and hope to see an improvement the following season I hope that explains my earlier comment, it wasn't a lack of respect. I think what he has achieved is fantastic. But I do think if we are not in the top 10 by say November he will be vulnerable. I would like to see him stay and develop. But I guess I just don't think CEO's who have worked for Swiss investment banks think that way! RDM was also successful with MK Dons, WBA and as well as Chelsea.

Shut up Chivers, Adkins wont be going anywhere after what he has done in the last 2 seasons, even if we went down (which im sure we wont) he would still be my preffered choice to bounce staraight back at the first time of asking

STICK RDM up your ar$e

george chivers wrote:

Itchen hero wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Alicesdad wrote: The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant. I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available. The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club. Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

As the person who suggested that RDM may take over from Nigel Adkins I should point out I wasn't knocking him. I am very happy with what he has done. My comments were based on three things. One an article I read in The Times which said RDM was a personal friend of Nicola Cortese and Cortese had consulted him before he decided to take the job with Saints. Two, the owners of the club, in my opinion will want to do one of two things with Southampton F.C. Move it forward rapidly and get it into the top half of the Premier League and keep it there, and improve it's playing staff so Europe is a possibility. Or stay in the Premier League and sell the club on for a good profit. To achieve either of those things, if you look at other clubs, there is a need to employ a manager with more experience than Nigel to achieve that. Unless Cortese is willing to let Nigel develop at his own pace, say like Moyes at Everton. Personally I don't think Cortese is that type of man. I think he requires close to instant results and is driven by tight time scales and stretch targets linked to bonuses. After all Nigel is our third manager since Cortese became CEO. I also think Nigel's end of the season comments about leaving the club at some point, wasn't just a throw away remark. I believe Cortese will have set him a stretch target for next season and won't be happy with just say finishing 13th or thereabouts. Where as I and probably many Saints fans would be happy with that level of performance and hope to see an improvement the following season I hope that explains my earlier comment, it wasn't a lack of respect. I think what he has achieved is fantastic. But I do think if we are not in the top 10 by say November he will be vulnerable. I would like to see him stay and develop. But I guess I just don't think CEO's who have worked for Swiss investment banks think that way! RDM was also successful with MK Dons, WBA and as well as Chelsea.

Shut up Chivers, Adkins wont be going anywhere after what he has done in the last 2 seasons, even if we went down (which im sure we wont) he would still be my preffered choice to bounce staraight back at the first time of asking

STICK RDM up your ar$e

You miss my point. I am not campaigning in favour of RDM. I am saying what I believe could happen if things don't go well.

if you recall when Pardew was here he was told his target was to get into the play-offs. He didn't but he won the JPT and we started with -10 in the league. But he was told winning the JPT was not substitutional for not getting into the play-offs. That's why I think he will be vulnerable if we are struggling in November.

I think if we were relegated he would be sacked, despite the fantastic work he has done.

Nobody wants to see him succeed more than me! But!

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Urgent call now we need real pace in that current team!

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

up saints wrote:
not bad linked to 22 players and only 1 out. looking at a big squad come august lol

St Retford wrote:

up saints wrote:
not bad linked to 22 players and only 1 out. looking at a big squad come august lol

The bookies have made us 3rd favourite to buy Michael Owen now he's left Manure. He's the new Matty Holland.

business-guru wrote:

St Retford wrote:

up saints wrote: not bad linked to 22 players and only 1 out. looking at a big squad come august lol

The bookies have made us 3rd favourite to buy Michael Owen now he's left Manure. He's the new Matty Holland.

no no no ,,,, no Owen, he would demand stupid money and will never be fit.... AVOID PLEASE NA !!!

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
The Squad aint good enough no balls in Midfieild or down the Flanks.We will drop likea can of Andrews Salts!

St Retford wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

Remember when all the computer geeks got their revenge for a childhood of having their heads flushed down the toilet by the normal people by inventing the 'millennium bug' and absolutely coining it in? Well the Mayans are doing the same with this end of the world stuff. They're going to buy everyone's stuff off them and then sell it back in November for 20 times the sale price.

That's the Mayans for you - opportunistic chancers one and all. I think Balram Chainrai is planning a similar thing with Pompey.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

The problem being that there is no news to discuss, the silence from the Club is deafening as usual, we just have to wait in anticipation and meanwhile talk among ourselves, speculation is OK up to a point, but there are only a limited number of fish in the sea, and the best ones don't always rise to the bait, no doubt we are trawling the oceans but until the right ones are hooked we just have to wait on the quayside until or boat comes in.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts.

Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

The problem being that there is no news to discuss, the silence from the Club is deafening as usual, we just have to wait in anticipation and meanwhile talk among ourselves, speculation is OK up to a point, but there are only a limited number of fish in the sea, and the best ones don't always rise to the bait, no doubt we are trawling the oceans but until the right ones are hooked we just have to wait on the quayside until or boat comes in.

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
Glasgow Saint says Daily Record reports Steve Davis is going to Southampton for 2 million Record usally is right. Davis is Quality best mid fielder in Scotland very pacey would leave Hammond for dead. Scores goals. Capt 50 times by Northern Ireland. Played for both Fulham and Aston Villa. He is Premier league standard. Normally if Club like Rangers were not in financial meltdown they would want possibly 6 million for him. Still only 27. He clearly would be a bargain at 2 million and twice the player Hammond is. This could be the first Rabbit out of the hat. Saw Hooper score 5 goals yesterday, my late Granny who at 87 was cutting down 30 ft trees could have scored the goals. I think he is too much of a gamble. We would be better looking at Rodriguez who only has one year left on his contract so 8 Million which has been quoted is wide of the mark for a player nearly out of contract. Rhodes could be a good. Punt. I hear there is an out of Contract striker look for a move back to St Marys( he certainly has loads of experience it would be his third spell with us anybody guess who I am talking about)
A tongue in cheek only joking comment

Confucious wrote:

St Retford wrote:

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:

Confucious wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: why no DE or OS news? has everyone gone to Vegas???

Latest rumlings on the street are that DE man was at the club when carbon monoxide fumes from a lunchtime barbie killed him along with all the club's players and officials whilst they were having a post-meal nap... or they have all gone to Vegas. This speculation is what happens when they do not announce on the news wires that there is no news.

Don't you just wish you could 'mute' this constant tripe. Most of us come on here because we want to get the latest transfer news not read the 'look at me' posts. Really hoping that Blackpool lose against WHU so that we can bid for Phillips (Matt that is).

Not at all. You, sir, would do well to heed the words of Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko:

"When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie."

I use to think the simple truth always shines through, but then I heard Pinnochio (he whose nose grows longer when he fibs) say "My nose is growing longer" And then I thought, well, if that was a true statement his nose wouldn't be growing longer, so it would be a lie. But if it was a lie, his nose would grow longer - and of course if it did grow longer that would mean he was telling the truth, but....and so on and so forth.

I just can't get to the truth of this matter and hope there will be some Saints news soon to take my mind off the problem.

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

Lm once said hello to me wrote:
Does anybody know when season ticket renewals will be available??

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

You will have to Google for it, I have no idea of the exact date, but will be really annoyed if it does happen, all that money for a Season Ticket I expect to get full value.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

You will have to Google for it, I have no idea of the exact date, but will be really annoyed if it does happen, all that money for a Season Ticket I expect to get full value.

Took my own advice and Wikepedia says its December 2012 so we get a few extra games in.

Saint.student wrote:
Saints need a goal scorer like Matt Le Tiss, making magic out of nothing!

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

He makes us all laugh apart from Mack. Bettered only by Pompey who make us all laugh including Mack!

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

He makes us all laugh apart from Mack. Bettered only by Pompey who make us all laugh including Mack!

Seedhouse...call me a sponging freeloader if you like (cos I am)...but have you any Cricket days planned this summer? :O)

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

He makes us all laugh apart from Mack. Bettered only by Pompey who make us all laugh including Mack!

Seedhouse...call me a sponging freeloader if you like (cos I am)...but have you any Cricket days planned this summer? :O)

or trips to las vegas ?

Baddesley Bill wrote:

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
confucious....you make me laugh!

He makes us all laugh apart from Mack. Bettered only by Pompey who make us all laugh including Mack!

Seedhouse...call me a sponging freeloader if you like (cos I am)...but have you any Cricket days planned this summer? :O)

or trips to las vegas ?

Best make that request expenses paid Slugger....two weeks till pay day...and I can hardly rustle up enough sheckles to play a fruit machine. Gonna need that easy payment plan for the season ticket please NC!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saint.student wrote:
Saints need a goal scorer like Matt Le Tiss, making magic out of nothing!

Rickie?

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: We will be bottom by Crimbo with that current team!

Worlds going to end in October according to the Mayans, so don't worry about it.

Have you got a date for the apocolypse Osprey? I was going to buy a lot of stuff this summer, but I think maybe I should wait. There'll be some amazing "End of the World Sale" offers in the run up to this catastrophe. I'd have thought 90% off just for starters and maybe 99% off in the "Everything must go - final week!" I'd also like to keep a look out and be the one to identify the last new thing that ever happens.

You will have to Google for it, I have no idea of the exact date, but will be really annoyed if it does happen, all that money for a Season Ticket I expect to get full value.

Took my own advice and Wikepedia says its December 2012 so we get a few extra games in.

And they'll start the sales early for the 'Last Xmas Ever Markdowns Bonanza'

Mush On The Beach wrote:
The best signing of the new season in my opinion will be Spanish Bob of Wigan or AVB to Liverpool. That will allow Nigel to go about his business successfully next year without any fear of the Scouse vultures hovering for him when he proves his worth amongst the big boys.

Also, NO to old prem fodder of the calibre of Owen joining the team and YES to young potentials from the lower leagues and Europe/Africa like Jordan Rhodes and ?????? I’ll leave it to the experts

owen thesaints... wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote: The best signing of the new season in my opinion will be Spanish Bob of Wigan or AVB to Liverpool. That will allow Nigel to go about his business successfully next year without any fear of the Scouse vultures hovering for him when he proves his worth amongst the big boys. Also, NO to old prem fodder of the calibre of Owen joining the team and YES to young potentials from the lower leagues and Europe/Africa like Jordan Rhodes and ?????? I’ll leave it to the experts

Ha Ha don't worry, i heard Liverpool were signing Ken Dodd as manager, to save changing the initials on managers kit!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Grant Holt had a transfer request turned down, why would he leave at this time?

pompey in spain wrote:
as expected... adkins going to a big club ...wigan!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!

owen thesaints... wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
The best signing of the new season in my opinion will be Spanish Bob of Wigan or AVB to Liverpool. That will allow Nigel to go about his business successfully next year without any fear of the Scouse vultures hovering for him when he proves his worth amongst the big boys.

Also, NO to old prem fodder of the calibre of Owen joining the team and YES to young potentials from the lower leagues and Europe/Africa like Jordan Rhodes and ?????? I’ll leave it to the experts

Ha Ha don't worry, i heard Liverpool were signing Ken Dodd as manager, to save changing the initials on managers kit!!

MGRA wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:
The lack of confidence being shown by some in NA is disappointing. His results in two seasons are simply brilliant.
I know he's unproven at Premiership level. So is RDM !! I know we will be expected to be the new boys getting thumped by big name teams every week and I know that managers get the blame. But I doubt we will be in the realm of changing just because a big name is available.
The "big name" RDM who has had a smidgeon of success with one of the most expensive teams in the world is very lucky to have a taken over that team even for a few weeks. He won't stay there and he wouldnt know what to do at our club.

Lay off Adkins, give the man a chance to show he is a future big name manager. He deserves more respect after the success he has given this club.

I fully expect NA to flourish in the Prem.... I am predicting 13th finish next season based on what we have done and what we many do. Saints have struggled when we started changing managers every 5 minutes... Even if we start slowly in the Prem ( which I don't think will happen ) , the pressure should not be put on NA, supporters need to realise that given 2 or 3 good-to-very good seasons in the Prem NA WILL BE a "big name manager". That said all professional managers have to deliver, its what they are paid highly for. So there will be sensible targets and I am pretty confident 3 from 6 points from 15 games from the the first 19 is reasonable.... It does not need to be a target that makes or breaks a managers job but there has to be a reality button. I think NA and all but two or three of the players ready for the Prem, and with 2 or 3 key signings we will surprise a few teams ....

NORTHAM ROARS wrote:
Does HOOPER actually want to play for us.... if theres a shadow of doubt.... why chase the guy. We want people who want to play for SAINTS, remember the pecttre of Jamie Redknapp and others...who didn't . Big names are ok , but they need to be RIGHT. The Michael Owen rumours don't excite me either- yes a quality player, but at end of career and a player with lots of money and horses and ...nothing to play for really and nothing to prove..desire could be a question.

Robdogmillionaire wrote:
Jose Bosingwa and Kalou released by Chelsea......

Lozzersaintsmartin wrote:
Just drove past St Marys and guess who i see??? Michael Owen Have we signed him? I hope so he will do well at saints with Ricky Lambert.

allmove4ward2geva wrote:

Lozzersaintsmartin wrote:
Just drove past St Marys and guess who i see??? Michael Owen Have we signed him? I hope so he will do well at saints with Ricky Lambert.

When will people realise we dont sign players at the stadium, you didnt see him there, and if you did it is more likely that he is applying for a stewards role

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whilst I am not convinced about Owen if he's on a free and doesn't want to much money he might be worth a punt. He is only 2 years older than Rickie and is the third highest scorer of all time for England behind Charlton and Lineker ffs!

Lozzersaintsmartin wrote:
Just drove past St Marys and guess who i see??? Michael Owen Have we signed him? I hope so he will do well at saints with Ricky Lambert.

allmove4ward2geva wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whilst I am not convinced about Owen if he's on a free and doesn't want to much money he might be worth a punt. He is only 2 years older than Rickie and is the third highest scorer of all time for England behind Charlton and Lineker ffs!

Wow, lets sign lineker then, surely he must be better seeing he scored more goals. Whilst we are at it, lets bring in Darren Anderton.

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

allmove4ward2geva wrote:
Personally, I reckon we should be looking at players like Whittingham of Cardiff, Snodgrass of Leeds, Ince/Phillips of Blackpool, Schmeichal of Leicester.

These are the players who I feel could fit into our squad, how about frimpong from Arsenal, just because he has a great name?

upwherewebelong wrote:
Can't understand why Owen generates such dislike and almost hatred. His record in football is great if not fantastic and he would be an asset to the club. Just because people don't like the guy don't let that cloud your judgement.

StevieSteve wrote:

allmove4ward2geva wrote: Personally, I reckon we should be looking at players like Whittingham of Cardiff, Snodgrass of Leeds, Ince/Phillips of Blackpool, Schmeichal of Leicester. These are the players who I feel could fit into our squad, how about frimpong from Arsenal, just because he has a great name?

We've been signing Championship players for the past 2/3 seasons. Think we'll aim higher this time!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Would that be a cause of a chorus of Owen the Saint, comes marching in?

StevieSteve wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

He was on 40k a week at Man U. Doubt he'll demand that anywhere else. Would be a great upgrade from Connolly!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whoever it may be that we want to sign I do hope we do it sooner rather than the usual last minute stuff. I know it means you have to pay them to sit on the beach during the summer but in the long run it's better to get them in and start getting them into our culture.

Michu was the strong rumour within the club so I guess he will be the first one.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

He was on 40k a week at Man U. Doubt he'll demand that anywhere else. Would be a great upgrade from Connolly!

Surely it will be a matter of market forces. If we offered him say 15k a week and no other team bettered it, his choice is 15k a week or retire. He can't demand 20 30 40k if no one is prepared to pay it.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

allmove4ward2geva wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whilst I am not convinced about Owen if he's on a free and doesn't want to much money he might be worth a punt. He is only 2 years older than Rickie and is the third highest scorer of all time for England behind Charlton and Lineker ffs!

Wow, lets sign lineker then, surely he must be better seeing he scored more goals. Whilst we are at it, lets bring in Darren Anderton.

Lineker and Darren Anderton are not currently 32 years old are they?

How old are Scholes and Giggs?

I agree that youth is predominantly the way forward but our best teams also had some experienced players in them - Ball, Keegan, Case, George, Mills, Watson etc.

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

He was on 40k a week at Man U. Doubt he'll demand that anywhere else. Would be a great upgrade from Connolly!

Surely it will be a matter of market forces. If we offered him say 15k a week and no other team bettered it, his choice is 15k a week or retire. He can't demand 20 30 40k if no one is prepared to pay it.

i thought owen was on a pay per play contract at united ........ get him on one of those and what's to lose ?

circa 66 saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

He was on 40k a week at Man U. Doubt he'll demand that anywhere else. Would be a great upgrade from Connolly!

Surely it will be a matter of market forces. If we offered him say 15k a week and no other team bettered it, his choice is 15k a week or retire. He can't demand 20 30 40k if no one is prepared to pay it.

i thought owen was on a pay per play contract at united ........ get him on one of those and what's to lose ?

agreed slugger pay per play and as seedhouse has said teams of old we always had some experienced players.
EXPERIENCE you can't buy it, you can't steal it, you can't borrow it, you learn it and owen certainly has learnt it

slugger wrote:

circa 66 saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I for one do not hate him, but what I do question is the need for a player whose career has been blighted by injury in recent years. How many full games or indeed sub appearances did he turn in last season or the season before that? Throw in the silly wage demands and the doubt of whether his heart would really be in it.

That’s enough for me to say thanks, but no thanks let’s go for younger hungrier options

He was on 40k a week at Man U. Doubt he'll demand that anywhere else. Would be a great upgrade from Connolly!

Surely it will be a matter of market forces. If we offered him say 15k a week and no other team bettered it, his choice is 15k a week or retire. He can't demand 20 30 40k if no one is prepared to pay it.

i thought owen was on a pay per play contract at united ........ get him on one of those and what's to lose ?

agreed slugger pay per play and as seedhouse has said teams of old we always had some experienced players.
EXPERIENCE you can't buy it, you can't steal it, you can't borrow it, you learn it and owen certainly has learnt it

i think that's the point , although connolly didn't play as much as i'd have liked i'll wager that our other players learned an awful lot from him in training (class movement and vision) .... a player like owen could teach almost every striker a thing or two ........... got to be affordable though .

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Owen Hargreaves anyone? (I must have Owen on the brain!) :O)

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

there's not a team on the planet that would pay that imo so it's retire or go for the best alternative ........ never say never .

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
All tranfer crap we know the requirement to stay in the Prem!

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

there's not a team on the planet that would pay that imo so it's retire or go for the best alternative ........ never say never .

there are several teams that would pay that , all of them play in the same league.... in china !!

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

there's not a team on the planet that would pay that imo so it's retire or go for the best alternative ........ never say never .

there are several teams that would pay that , all of them play in the same league.... in china !!

fair comment , or usa i suppose .......... i revise it to "no team in europe".

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

allmove4ward2geva wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whilst I am not convinced about Owen if he's on a free and doesn't want to much money he might be worth a punt. He is only 2 years older than Rickie and is the third highest scorer of all time for England behind Charlton and Lineker ffs!

Wow, lets sign lineker then, surely he must be better seeing he scored more goals. Whilst we are at it, lets bring in Darren Anderton.

Lineker and Darren Anderton are not currently 32 years old are they?

How old are Scholes and Giggs?

I agree that youth is predominantly the way forward but our best teams also had some experienced players in them - Ball, Keegan, Case, George, Mills, Watson etc.

Seedhouse,
I understand your stance about Michael Owen's age.
32 is not old today for a professional footballer.
You mention Scholes,Giggs both have had their injuries, in their time.
I think the difference is they no longer need pace where they now play.
Owen's great strength was speed to get beyond defences.
His previous long injury record, now prevents him from doing this at the top level.
If Saints were to sign him it could only to cover for Billy Sharp as a penalty box poacher.
Can he stay fit?
Track record in recent years say's no!
Coyr.

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

there's not a team on the planet that would pay that imo so it's retire or go for the best alternative ........ never say never .

there are several teams that would pay that , all of them play in the same league.... in china !!

fair comment , or usa i suppose .......... i revise it to "no team in europe".

USA league is becoming less attractive. China have big ambitions I think.... they also have a genuine developing fan base.... Still I think MO likes his horses too much, he will stay in England and grab a year or two in the Prem or dare I say it ,,, championship !!!

rocketone wrote:
don't they do horse racing in China ?

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

allmove4ward2geva wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whilst I am not convinced about Owen if he's on a free and doesn't want to much money he might be worth a punt. He is only 2 years older than Rickie and is the third highest scorer of all time for England behind Charlton and Lineker ffs!

Wow, lets sign lineker then, surely he must be better seeing he scored more goals. Whilst we are at it, lets bring in Darren Anderton.

Lineker and Darren Anderton are not currently 32 years old are they?

How old are Scholes and Giggs?

I agree that youth is predominantly the way forward but our best teams also had some experienced players in them - Ball, Keegan, Case, George, Mills, Watson etc.

Seedhouse,
I understand your stance about Michael Owen's age.
32 is not old today for a professional footballer.
You mention Scholes,Giggs both have had their injuries, in their time.
I think the difference is they no longer need pace where they now play.
Owen's great strength was speed to get beyond defences.
His previous long injury record, now prevents him from doing this at the top level.
If Saints were to sign him it could only to cover for Billy Sharp as a penalty box poacher.
Can he stay fit?
Track record in recent years say's no!
Coyr.

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:

slugger wrote:

business-guru wrote:
owen is too greedy,,, he will want too much money and will nooooooooooooooo way sign a PPP contract. he will want £40-£50K a week for a 2 year contract somewhere.... we would be mad to sign imo..

there's not a team on the planet that would pay that imo so it's retire or go for the best alternative ........ never say never .

there are several teams that would pay that , all of them play in the same league.... in china !!

fair comment , or usa i suppose .......... i revise it to "no team in europe".

USA league is becoming less attractive. China have big ambitions I think.... they also have a genuine developing fan base.... Still I think MO likes his horses too much, he will stay in England and grab a year or two in the Prem or dare I say it ,,, championship !!!