Saints star hits out after move collapses (From Daily Echo)

St Retford wrote:
Happy summer solstice, Echo readers. It's a shame we're no longer in touch with our pagan traditions. I went to school in Salisbury and every year throughout my youth on June 21st the police would gather in town and beat the sh!t out of Levellers fans. It was a wonderful sight and even the memory of it brings a glow to my heart.

Does that sort of thing still happen anywhere?

puppy saint wrote:

St Retford wrote: Happy summer solstice, Echo readers. It's a shame we're no longer in touch with our pagan traditions. I went to school in Salisbury and every year throughout my youth on June 21st the police would gather in town and beat the sh!t out of Levellers fans. It was a wonderful sight and even the memory of it brings a glow to my heart. Does that sort of thing still happen anywhere?

Standards have dropped. I also lament the loss of one of the few sounds that distinguished this time of year as summer, the desperation in the cries of "Come on Timmy!" from Henman Hill. I'm completely lost.

#1saintsfan wrote:
glad i dont buy an echo, would be annoyed paying to read old news. come on echo give us something new rather than just taking stories from twitter.

St Retford wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

St Retford wrote: Happy summer solstice, Echo readers. It's a shame we're no longer in touch with our pagan traditions. I went to school in Salisbury and every year throughout my youth on June 21st the police would gather in town and beat the sh!t out of Levellers fans. It was a wonderful sight and even the memory of it brings a glow to my heart. Does that sort of thing still happen anywhere?

Standards have dropped. I also lament the loss of one of the few sounds that distinguished this time of year as summer, the desperation in the cries of "Come on Timmy!" from Henman Hill. I'm completely lost.

It's this intolerable disconnect with nature and tradition that is making humankind so troubled and unbalanced. Is it any wonder people are going around biting each other's faces off when summer is no longer celebrated with a dance around a maypole?

saint robbie wrote:
Changing Topic: Looking forward, to seeing the new kit, had heard rumours it was going to be pinstripes, Just hope it isnt a red and white version of Sweeden's umbro 2012 kit.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Knock knock.

NC: 'Entrare.'

RD: 'Hello Don Cortese. Err I've been offered a chance to play regular first team football by Crawley Town, I've got a year left on my contract but they don't want to pay a transfer fee. As I'm shitte is there any chance you might let me leave for free?'

'Si si naturalmente Ryan, we do not want to stand in the way of rebuilding your career.'

'Excellent. Now about my compensation....'

'Compensazion!?! You ******* ****! **** ****** horse's head ******* ****** concrete boots ******* Staplewood foundations ***** you ****************** skunt!'

'Shall I take that as a No then?'

billythesaint wrote:
I like the way celebrities use Tw@tter to advertise the fact they are:
a) void of intelligence
b) void of the ability to spell
c) out of touch with the real world
"I is well angree innit cos I be watching football not playing it why don't they sell me its not fare blah blah where's my comma and full stop your having a larf."
You're an average player playing for a Premier League club. Shut up or **** off.

billythesaint wrote:
I like the way celebrities use Tw@tter to advertise the fact they are:
a) void of intelligence
b) void of the ability to spell
c) out of touch with the real world
"I is well angree innit cos I be watching football not playing it why don't they sell me its not fare blah blah where's my comma and full stop your having a larf."
You're an average player playing for a Premier League club. Shut up or **** off.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

You mean he will dissappear never to be heard of again?

seventh-junction wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

You mean he will dissappear never to be heard of again?

Who?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

seventh-junction wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

You mean he will dissappear never to be heard of again?

Who?

Dunno, forgotten him already!

Over the Edge wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

seventh-junction wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

You mean he will dissappear never to be heard of again?

Who?

Dunno, forgotten him already!

Forgotten who already?

SO50 Saint wrote:
I wonder if this is what is happening with Puncheon aswell very quiet on that front or has he already left and i've completely missed it

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We don't know anything about it, just hearsay, no doubt the Club will conduct it's business in their usual quiet and efficient way, he will get something and then move on, good luck to him, whichever way he goes.

You mean he will dissappear never to be heard of again?

joelster wrote:
I have no respect for people who beak-off on Twitter. It's like they think its a private venting forum. Give me a break, show some respect to your employers- be a man, if you have issues go to the person and deal with it.
Every time a guy does this it just makes me think -whats happening to the "raising of men" these days. We end up raising a bunch of whinging boys!!

Then again, I've had way too much coffee this morning and not enough sleep so I may just be "extra grumpy"! Sorry for venting "online"- ha!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

joelster wrote:
I have no respect for people who beak-off on Twitter. It's like they think its a private venting forum. Give me a break, show some respect to your employers- be a man, if you have issues go to the person and deal with it.
Every time a guy does this it just makes me think -whats happening to the "raising of men" these days. We end up raising a bunch of whinging boys!!

Then again, I've had way too much coffee this morning and not enough sleep so I may just be "extra grumpy"! Sorry for venting "online"- ha!

I think the first four words were all that was needed.

Alicesdad wrote:
Going on Twitter never really helps such players. They end up sounding so dim you wonder how they turned the PC on in the first place.

Whatever the roots of this dispute, it's a private matter, and, as proved by the comments above, nobody really gives fig. Publicity just makes it worse for him.

Once again Alicescat is far more interesting than this .. don't get me started.

Shoong wrote:
Not sure how bleating on Twatter helps you in anyway Ryan, not a good move.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

saint robbie wrote: Changing Topic: Looking forward, to seeing the new kit, had heard rumours it was going to be pinstripes, Just hope it isnt a red and white version of Sweeden's umbro 2012 kit.

somthing like the Croatia kit would be smart but with no blue for obvious reasons!

saints-fanathotmail.
co.uk wrote:
Ryan has apologised on Twitter....good respectfiul response

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Not sure how bleating on Twatter helps you in anyway Ryan, not a good move.

Sums up the whole episode. We move on while Ryan has a year to sit around and consider his ...erm...future.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

joelster wrote:
I have no respect for people who beak-off on Twitter. It's like they think its a private venting forum. Give me a break, show some respect to your employers- be a man, if you have issues go to the person and deal with it.
Every time a guy does this it just makes me think -whats happening to the "raising of men" these days. We end up raising a bunch of whinging boys!!

Then again, I've had way too much coffee this morning and not enough sleep so I may just be "extra grumpy"! Sorry for venting "online"- ha!

I think the first four words were all that was needed.

skin2000 wrote:
Blake tweets that he is considering his options. Could he still be signing?

flashhart2000 wrote:
imho he is a professional worker under contract and therefore entitled to the terms of that contract if you want amateur players go and watch the Blue Few.
He has given 100% worked hard and loves his job.
Why do some ppl expect a player who comes from God knows where to suddenly become Saints until they die.
Some players are like that and that is a blessing but the minute they complain about a situation at the club they are scum! Whats that about?

I am Saints until I die but then I am a fan not a player from Saltash in Cornwall or Bogota Columbia.

I remember when we were deep in administration and my friend was working at the club as a chef and went to London for a culinary competition and won it.
The Echo did a story and then a load of haters started writing in about concentrating on the football. However at that time the banqueting was the only profit making part of the club.

So my message is stop being a hater. Well save it for Nugent.

flashhart2000 wrote:
imho he is a professional worker under contract and therefore entitled to the terms of that contract if you want amateur players go and watch the Blue Few.
He has given 100% worked hard and loves his job.
Why do some ppl expect a player who comes from God knows where to suddenly become Saints until they die.
Some players are like that and that is a blessing but the minute they complain about a situation at the club they are scum! Whats that about?

I am Saints until I die but then I am a fan not a player from Saltash in Cornwall or Bogota Columbia.

I remember when we were deep in administration and my friend was working at the club as a chef and went to London for a culinary competition and won it.
The Echo did a story and then a load of haters started writing in about concentrating on the football. However at that time the banqueting was the only profit making part of the club.

So my message is stop being a hater. Well save it for Nugent.

#1saintsfan wrote:
glad i dont buy an echo, would be annoyed paying to read old news. come on echo give us something new rather than just taking stories from twitter.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

cheers george, i'm with you on this one.

Alicesdad wrote:
Good to hear that an apology was forthcoming. Wise move.

I have considered this overnight.
In the end the terms of a contract must be honoured.

If the club wants to break the contract they must buy him out. No question.

If the player wants to break the contract then the same applies, either the player (or more likely another club) should compensate Saints. This would apply if Saints wanted to keep him.

If Saints don't want him and he wants to join another club then the contract can be cancelled by mutual consent.

It appears to me that the club has dumped him. Fair enough, so they should compensate him. The club is also perfectly within its rights to try to get some money back. The player is perfectly within his rights to stay put and claim the pay due to him. He knows however that that would mean a year of sweeping up the changing rooms and setting up the goalposts at the training ground. Thats up to him.

If he has found a club that wants him the it's a business decision for NC. NC is entitled to recieve payment for a contracted asset being sold and transferred. Thats how the whole system works. NC can also say "you are free to go" and we can tear up the contract by mutual consent. I think this is what has happened. The player has then said no because he wants a pay off. If he wants a pay off then NC has to weigh up how much his wages are compared to a pay off. The pay off terms would be specified in the original contract.

If this isn't sorted by mutual consent then he will rot for a season but be very well paid. I doubt Crawley will stump up to buy out the contract. So the player will lose a year of playing and being "in the shop window".

Simple.

I'm getting bored with this. Where's my cat when I need him?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

cheers george, i'm with you on this one.

Me, too.

Steve Davis? Now that is ..... er ..... interesting!

Mind you, as well as Steve Davis, snooker genius, there's a lot of others about, including the one who started his career at Saints and retired about 5 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.

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Are you sure you have the right Steve Davis? His wiki entry says he's still at Rangers.

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george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

cheers george, i'm with you on this one.

Me, too.

Steve Davis? Now that is ..... er ..... interesting!

Mind you, as well as Steve Davis, snooker genius, there's a lot of others about, including the one who started his career at Saints and retired about 5 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Steve_Davis


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Are you sure you have the right Steve Davis? His wiki entry says he's still at Rangers.

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Steven_Davi


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On the one I read it gave his career summary in terms of games as being with Rangers. But the in the first paragraph of his career description said he played for Southampton and NI.

george chivers wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

cheers george, i'm with you on this one.

Me, too.

Steve Davis? Now that is ..... er ..... interesting!

Mind you, as well as Steve Davis, snooker genius, there's a lot of others about, including the one who started his career at Saints and retired about 5 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Steve_Davis



_%28disambiguation%2



9

Are you sure you have the right Steve Davis? His wiki entry says he's still at Rangers.

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Steven_Davi



s

On the one I read it gave his career summary in terms of games as being with Rangers. But the in the first paragraph of his career description said he played for Southampton and NI.

Just checked it out and it now reads Rangers and NI. It has been changed since my original post.

Originally I saw it in the Sun on line via the link on the BBC football page, and then I checked Wikipedia.

Interesting. An on/off deal perhaps? In the Sun it said he would be Saints highest paid player.

saintmac wrote:
Seedhouse - Blake of Blake's 7?

SO50 Saint wrote:
The question is what odds is it gonna be? If anything like Frankel the other day I know where my money will be staying

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thank you for clearing up the Blake issue....

I see the PST are submitting their bid this morning. I think we should all be very supportive and not take the p!ss at all.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thank you for clearing up the Blake issue....

I see the PST are submitting their bid this morning. I think we should all be very supportive and not take the p!ss at all.

Good luck to them, but I’m afraid it smells a bit like Communism to me .... a good idea on paper, but it’s an Animal Farm.
All Skunts are equal, but some Skunts are more equal than others

Mush On The Beach wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
The question is what odds is it gonna be? If anything like Frankel the other day I know where my money will be staying

I have not looked at the odds, but it would be a shame if they price it out of interest for punters. Travel has a huge negative factor, plenty of good European horses have under-performed in the Melbourne Cup

george chivers wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

george chivers wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote: anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Says in the Sun he would like to return. At 35/36, personally, I don't think that is a good idea. Either a made up story by Sun journalists or Anders trying to do a James Beattie and jump aboard the bus. I can't think Nigel would be interested in somebody as old as Anders. That's not his style in the transfer market.

cheers george, i'm with you on this one.

Me, too.

Steve Davis? Now that is ..... er ..... interesting!

Mind you, as well as Steve Davis, snooker genius, there's a lot of others about, including the one who started his career at Saints and retired about 5 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Steve_Davis



_%28disambiguation%2



9

Are you sure you have the right Steve Davis? His wiki entry says he's still at Rangers.

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Steven_Davi



s

On the one I read it gave his career summary in terms of games as being with Rangers. But the in the first paragraph of his career description said he played for Southampton and NI.

Just checked it out and it now reads Rangers and NI. It has been changed since my original post.

Originally I saw it in the Sun on line via the link on the BBC football page, and then I checked Wikipedia.

Interesting. An on/off deal perhaps? In the Sun it said he would be Saints highest paid player.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
The question is what odds is it gonna be? If anything like Frankel the other day I know where my money will be staying

I have not looked at the odds, but it would be a shame if they price it out of interest for punters. Travel has a huge negative factor, plenty of good European horses have under-performed in the Melbourne Cup

Hope it's not another Far Lap! Good luck. Will keep an eye on it but I'm not a betting man.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
anyone heard a rumor that Anderes Svensson might be returning?

Tirau Dan wrote:
What a fool to Twitter his rep away. I thought Ryan would be more mature. SFC is entitled to a return for his worth and length of his contract.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
MUSH GET YOUR HEAD DOWN AND PROVE YOUR WORTH!