Buttner deal still in the balance (From Daily Echo)

Southampton boy wrote:
why does this happens to us? we are stll looking for other players when will we see these replacements come in i the problems du to othe teams ee saints as a rich club and are trying to increase the prices thiking we have the money to burn, would like to see the club go through admin again would reather see us back in the championship then broke..

SaintPC wrote:
Why does everyone get so irate about things they dont know the detail of? A 3rd party has come out of the woodwork and demanded a fee, we shouldn't be held over a barrel for any player so rightly we have said no to paying it. This doesn't mean that the player himself is causing issues - or even the agent for that matter - although you would have expected the agent to have known in advance of this. The upshot is that patience is key in any business deal, so we as fans just need to trust the management in place (and there is no reason whatsoever not to!) and if the deal is right for Saints then I am sure they will do it as soon as possible. Relax people.....this is the same as watching a game and getting frustrated with the team for not scoring 3 before half time.....it doesnt do anyone any favours!!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SaintPC wrote:
Why does everyone get so irate about things they dont know the detail of? A 3rd party has come out of the woodwork and demanded a fee, we shouldn't be held over a barrel for any player so rightly we have said no to paying it. This doesn't mean that the player himself is causing issues - or even the agent for that matter - although you would have expected the agent to have known in advance of this. The upshot is that patience is key in any business deal, so we as fans just need to trust the management in place (and there is no reason whatsoever not to!) and if the deal is right for Saints then I am sure they will do it as soon as possible. Relax people.....this is the same as watching a game and getting frustrated with the team for not scoring 3 before half time.....it doesnt do anyone any favours!!

Halleluiah! Spot on.

SaintPC wrote:
Why does everyone get so irate about things they dont know the detail of? A 3rd party has come out of the woodwork and demanded a fee, we shouldn't be held over a barrel for any player so rightly we have said no to paying it. This doesn't mean that the player himself is causing issues - or even the agent for that matter - although you would have expected the agent to have known in advance of this. The upshot is that patience is key in any business deal, so we as fans just need to trust the management in place (and there is no reason whatsoever not to!) and if the deal is right for Saints then I am sure they will do it as soon as possible. Relax people.....this is the same as watching a game and getting frustrated with the team for not scoring 3 before half time.....it doesnt do anyone any favours!!

george chivers wrote:
Something similar to this happened last season with Gorkss? We messed about for 3 weeks then Reading did a deal in 2 days.

I worry about NC when it comes to negotiations. Let's hope this one and 3 or 4 others happen quickly. The first 4 fixtures are very tough. We can't start the season under strength. A bad start could affect our confidence against teams like Villa and Everton.

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

Rising_Son wrote:
George, how do you know "Something similar to this happened last season with Gorkss?" It sounds like a rather different situation to me.

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However .....

..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates.

They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs.

Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week.

It's a great time to be a Saint!

RisingSon wrote:
Why do pessimists think they are realists?

Why do the moaners always know who to blame?

Southampton boy wrote:
why does this happens to us? we are stll looking for other players when will we see these replacements come in i the problems du to othe teams ee saints as a rich club and are trying to increase the prices thiking we have the money to burn, would like to see the club go through admin again would reather see us back in the championship then broke..

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However .....

..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates.

They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs.

Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week.

It's a great time to be a Saint!

RisingSon wrote:
Why do pessimists think they are realists?

Why do the moaners always know who to blame?

Egomaniac wrote:
Yes, we can all speculate on what is going on at SFC. However, when you look at that activity going on at other Premiership clubs - off loading and strengthening their respective squads, we at Saints have done virtually nothing.

There is no doubt that Adkins has done a remarkable job in bringing Saints from League 1 to the Premiership in two seasons. However I do fear for Saints in the Premiership right now. We are off on our pre-season tour and preparation with what is basically a Championship side. Hardly good prep for the new season is it.

I am sad to say that I just don't think Adkins has the negotiating and pulling strength to build at Premiership level. I hate to contemplate it, but I genuinely do not think he has the cutting edge at this level. The botched negotiations with Buttner, the Rangers 'on-off' signing and the inactivity over the Brum goalkeeper says it all for me.

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However .....

..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates.

They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs.

Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week.

It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

bigfella777 wrote:
Saints should go after Berbatov £5m is such a bargain. He would guarantee premiership survival.

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

townieboy wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Saints should go after Berbatov £5m is such a bargain. He would guarantee premiership survival.

what a stupid post. He would break our pay structure for a start and also I get a feeling he wouls like to play champions league....so where out on all fronts.

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

randre wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
Yes, we can all speculate on what is going on at SFC. However, when you look at that activity going on at other Premiership clubs - off loading and strengthening their respective squads, we at Saints have done virtually nothing.

There is no doubt that Adkins has done a remarkable job in bringing Saints from League 1 to the Premiership in two seasons. However I do fear for Saints in the Premiership right now. We are off on our pre-season tour and preparation with what is basically a Championship side. Hardly good prep for the new season is it.

I am sad to say that I just don't think Adkins has the negotiating and pulling strength to build at Premiership level. I hate to contemplate it, but I genuinely do not think he has the cutting edge at this level. The botched negotiations with Buttner, the Rangers 'on-off' signing and the inactivity over the Brum goalkeeper says it all for me.

I believe you are wron... But time wil tell!

For one, I am not interested in ow other clubs sign or offload players, why should Southampton copy other clubs. I can't remember Norwich or Swansea making too many massive changes last year and they did OK didn't they?

I don't believe we should be panic buying and held to ransom, if this is how other clubs run their business then fine.I personally think we should take careand make sure the players we sign are riht for Southampton.

Remember, 5 weeks is a long time in football.

george chivers wrote:

RisingSon wrote:
Why do pessimists think they are realists?

Why do the moaners always know who to blame?

I will become an optimist if we make good signings by the end of July.

I am not moaning just expressing a frustrated opinion. I have to earn £1500 to attend Saints games. I have a right to criticise the supplier of my entertainment if I am unhappy with the service provided. Even if that is in the preparation stage.

I always praise NC and NA when things are going well. If we strengthen our squad to the level required I won't be criticising them, I will be praising them.

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
Yes, we can all speculate on what is going on at SFC. However, when you look at that activity going on at other Premiership clubs - off loading and strengthening their respective squads, we at Saints have done virtually nothing.

There is no doubt that Adkins has done a remarkable job in bringing Saints from League 1 to the Premiership in two seasons. However I do fear for Saints in the Premiership right now. We are off on our pre-season tour and preparation with what is basically a Championship side. Hardly good prep for the new season is it.

I am sad to say that I just don't think Adkins has the negotiating and pulling strength to build at Premiership level. I hate to contemplate it, but I genuinely do not think he has the cutting edge at this level. The botched negotiations with Buttner, the Rangers 'on-off' signing and the inactivity over the Brum goalkeeper says it all for me.

I believe you are wron... But time wil tell!

For one, I am not interested in ow other clubs sign or offload players, why should Southampton copy other clubs. I can't remember Norwich or Swansea making too many massive changes last year and they did OK didn't they?

I don't believe we should be panic buying and held to ransom, if this is how other clubs run their business then fine.I personally think we should take careand make sure the players we sign are riht for Southampton.

Remember, 5 weeks is a long time in football.

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Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However .....

..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates.

They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs.

Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week.

It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

billythesaint wrote:
I'm glad none of us run the Club! NC and NA have more know-how and negotiation skills in their sleep than anyone on here. And they also know what is happening at the club far better than any Echo employee. Cheer yourselves up by reading the Pompey squad list that are preparing for League One on -10 points. It's a who's who of who?

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

montecristosaint wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

Choice comment I have had to laugh`"certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period" do you really believe what you write or is this some form of blind adulation or hero worship.
NC has done a brilliant job at Saints except in one area that of press relations and i believe that is hurting the club as there is nothing worse for fans than unanswered speculation.
While the club may be tight lipped others are not and the Clyne and Buttner transfers are a case in point. Doing you business in private simply does not happen in football it is naive tO suggest otherwise.I also wonder whether clever use of the media might have helped to remove whatever the obstacle is to the Buttner deal as it does look as if someone is being unreasonable here.
COYRS!!

Alicesdad wrote:

montecristosaint wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

Choice comment I have had to laugh`"certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period" do you really believe what you write or is this some form of blind adulation or hero worship.
NC has done a brilliant job at Saints except in one area that of press relations and i believe that is hurting the club as there is nothing worse for fans than unanswered speculation.
While the club may be tight lipped others are not and the Clyne and Buttner transfers are a case in point. Doing you business in private simply does not happen in football it is naive tO suggest otherwise.I also wonder whether clever use of the media might have helped to remove whatever the obstacle is to the Buttner deal as it does look as if someone is being unreasonable here.
COYRS!!

I utterly respect your right to an opinion montewotsit......

but ....

Rubbish. Utter utter rubbish. Complete and utter utter rubbish.
Absolute and and complete utter utter rubbish.

NC will prevail. His negotiation skills are blue chip, rock solid and I fully support the confidentiality/secr

ecy approach until the deal is sealed.

NC bought a struggling club for around £15 million on behalf of the new owner, then returned that club to the premiership in three years. Show me anybody else who can match that.

As for all the puffs we hear, forget them. The rumours are usually complete hogwash and are there to sell papers.

Quit dreaming and get on the beam.

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

SaintMax wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SaintPC wrote:
Why does everyone get so irate about things they dont know the detail of? A 3rd party has come out of the woodwork and demanded a fee, we shouldn't be held over a barrel for any player so rightly we have said no to paying it. This doesn't mean that the player himself is causing issues - or even the agent for that matter - although you would have expected the agent to have known in advance of this. The upshot is that patience is key in any business deal, so we as fans just need to trust the management in place (and there is no reason whatsoever not to!) and if the deal is right for Saints then I am sure they will do it as soon as possible. Relax people.....this is the same as watching a game and getting frustrated with the team for not scoring 3 before half time.....it doesnt do anyone any favours!!

Halleluiah! Spot on.

Nice one.
Even buying a sofa second hand can lead to playing hard to get negotiations. When you are talking about millions and an individuals worth in terms of talent then its even more complex, especially if the seller isnt that keen on selling. Chillax and trust in the management to spot the right player for the right position for Saints FC - there is no point hanging onto snippets of gossip.

Tongdii wrote:
I was getting concerned about the lack of transfer activity, until I remembered as a young sprog growing up in London during the war, I would complain that I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet.
We are in the Premier league and I am sure NC & NA will do their best to keep us there. Have a little faith.

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

WUM ignor

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

stjimmy76 wrote:

mbetts wrote: The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

^ ^ ^ ^ THIS ^ ^ ^ ^

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

mack chinnon wrote:

Flashin the pan wrote:
The dutchman is on his way to Pompey after realizing if he joins the scummers, relegation is likely and he could very well end up playing championship league football the following season.
He's worried playing in games against class teams as Man C for the scummers could be on a hiding to nothing or facing big defeats..struggling at the bottom of the Premiership all season is really not for him.

Come on Bournemouth.

slugger wrote:
i demand that nicola signs ALL the players I want NOW ........ if it don't happen NOW i'm gonna thcream and thcream til i'm thick ! ............. lol .

WobblyCat wrote:

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

I don't consider myself pathetic or am I depressed, I'm just a bit concerned at the lack signings before training and the pre season games start. Why do some people on here have such a hard time with differing opinions?

tugboat wrote:

WobblyCat wrote:

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

I don't consider myself pathetic or am I depressed, I'm just a bit concerned at the lack signings before training and the pre season games start. Why do some people on here have such a hard time with differing opinions?

With the upmost respect wobblycat, how long have you been following saints ? possibly 40 +years like me ?.
Now that may seem patronising and for that I apologise. I,m just a supporter like anyone else,but if theres one thing Ive learnt in life is that where big money is concerned,contractur

al negotiations are very difficult. Yes,like you I would like to see all transfer dealings wrapped up by mid july,who wouldnt ?but Im afraid its not possible.
Have you ever sat round a table with contractors trying to thrash out an agreement? I have ,in the far east,middle east and the |UK,trust me ,to cross the I,s etc etc and get a deal that suits you ,nailed down is very difficult ,withn the added attraction of agents thrown in !!!.
I have complete faith in nicola,s ability to negotiate on behalf of SFC,If a deal doesnt go through its not in our best interest-period.
We will get the players that suit our pay structure and style of play.
Please be patient, keep the faith,the club is bigger than all of us.
My prediction,the saints to take the prem by storm.....If Im wrong-slag me off till the cows come home.

tugboat wrote:

WobblyCat wrote:

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

I don't consider myself pathetic or am I depressed, I'm just a bit concerned at the lack signings before training and the pre season games start. Why do some people on here have such a hard time with differing opinions?

With the upmost respect wobblycat, how long have you been following saints ? possibly 40 +years like me ?.
Now that may seem patronising and for that I apologise. I,m just a supporter like anyone else,but if theres one thing Ive learnt in life is that where big money is concerned,contractur

al negotiations are very difficult. Yes,like you I would like to see all transfer dealings wrapped up by mid july,who wouldnt ?but Im afraid its not possible.
Have you ever sat round a table with contractors trying to thrash out an agreement? I have ,in the far east,middle east and the |UK,trust me ,to cross the I,s etc etc and get a deal that suits you ,nailed down is very difficult ,withn the added attraction of agents thrown in !!!.
I have complete faith in nicola,s ability to negotiate on behalf of SFC,If a deal doesnt go through its not in our best interest-period.
We will get the players that suit our pay structure and style of play.
Please be patient, keep the faith,the club is bigger than all of us.
My prediction,the saints to take the prem by storm.....If Im wrong-slag me off till the cows come home.

WobblyCat wrote:

tugboat wrote:

WobblyCat wrote:

mbetts wrote:
The tone on this site is pathetic, we're Southampton we've just arrived in the Premier League after a terrible decade, we should be euphoric not depressed, whatever happens will happen, but OMG! Cheer the f*%$ up!!!!

I don't consider myself pathetic or am I depressed, I'm just a bit concerned at the lack signings before training and the pre season games start. Why do some people on here have such a hard time with differing opinions?

With the upmost respect wobblycat, how long have you been following saints ? possibly 40 +years like me ?.
Now that may seem patronising and for that I apologise. I,m just a supporter like anyone else,but if theres one thing Ive learnt in life is that where big money is concerned,contractur


al negotiations are very difficult. Yes,like you I would like to see all transfer dealings wrapped up by mid july,who wouldnt ?but Im afraid its not possible.
Have you ever sat round a table with contractors trying to thrash out an agreement? I have ,in the far east,middle east and the |UK,trust me ,to cross the I,s etc etc and get a deal that suits you ,nailed down is very difficult ,withn the added attraction of agents thrown in !!!.
I have complete faith in nicola,s ability to negotiate on behalf of SFC,If a deal doesnt go through its not in our best interest-period.
We will get the players that suit our pay structure and style of play.
Please be patient, keep the faith,the club is bigger than all of us.
My prediction,the saints to take the prem by storm.....If Im wrong-slag me off till the cows come home.

About 35 years, after a brief flirtation with Leeds Utd! I take your point and I’m aware contracts are not easy but it’s been disappointing so far as Nigel has commented himself. I’m not pouting, just commenting, it’s tough for some!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
A tweet seen from an Everton fan said that an U18's GK Adam Davies is a having a trial with us tonight, don't know if it is true but he has been subbed now anyway by Chris Johns, Saints 2 0 up last I heard Sam McQueen credited with both.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Also Barnard, Forte Reeves, Hoskins and Dickson were in the starting line up.

Salar wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

If you start reading Vogon poetry and quoting it in detail on here, then I suspect many of us will leave this site.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Salar wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

If you start reading Vogon poetry and quoting it in detail on here, then I suspect many of us will leave this site.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly Bigfeller777 thy micturations are to me.
As plurdled gabbleblotchits like Phylis on a lurgid bee.
Groop Fatty I implore thee, Dan, Bob and Bill my foonting Seedhouse turlingdromes.
And Confucious hooptiously drangle me with Tugboat Osprey crinkly WobblyCat bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the Puppy gobberwarts with my Retford blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

(There, that should rid the site of all skates, WUMs and moaners. If they come back, they'll get something tasteless by Azgoths of Kria.)

P.S. Think we'll signed another Davies?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Salar wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

If you start reading Vogon poetry and quoting it in detail on here, then I suspect many of us will leave this site.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly Bigfeller777 thy micturations are to me.
As plurdled gabbleblotchits like Phylis on a lurgid bee.
Groop Fatty I implore thee, Dan, Bob and Bill my foonting Seedhouse turlingdromes.
And Confucious hooptiously drangle me with Tugboat Osprey crinkly WobblyCat bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the Puppy gobberwarts with my Retford blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

(There, that should rid the site of all skates, WUMs and moaners. If they come back, they'll get something tasteless by Azgoths of Kria.)

P.S. Think we'll signed another Davies?

Not to mention the person from Redbridge!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Salar wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

If you start reading Vogon poetry and quoting it in detail on here, then I suspect many of us will leave this site.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly Bigfeller777 thy micturations are to me.
As plurdled gabbleblotchits like Phylis on a lurgid bee.
Groop Fatty I implore thee, Dan, Bob and Bill my foonting Seedhouse turlingdromes.
And Confucious hooptiously drangle me with Tugboat Osprey crinkly WobblyCat bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the Puppy gobberwarts with my Retford blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

(There, that should rid the site of all skates, WUMs and moaners. If they come back, they'll get something tasteless by Azgoths of Kria.)

P.S. Think we'll signed another Davies?

Not to mention the person from Redbridge!

However The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Sussex, in the destruction of the planet Earth.

slugger wrote:
losing the will to live here !

slugger wrote:
losing the will to live here !

mack chinnon wrote:

slugger wrote:
losing the will to live here !

Evening.

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

slugger wrote:
losing the will to live here !

Evening.

watcha mate ....... do you want to be the first person to use my season ticket ? .... on holiday for the wigan game .

mack chinnon wrote:

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

slugger wrote:
losing the will to live here !

Evening.

watcha mate ....... do you want to be the first person to use my season ticket ? .... on holiday for the wigan game .

Yes please.

Saintsayer II wrote:
If he does come after all this fuss then it means NA is exceptionally keen to have him

Southampton boy wrote:
why does this happens to us? we are stll looking for other players when will we see these replacements come in i the problems du to othe teams ee saints as a rich club and are trying to increase the prices thiking we have the money to burn, would like to see the club go through admin again would reather see us back in the championship then broke..

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Salar wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

Confucious wrote: Relax - Nigel and Nicola are on top of things. The club have just announced they have no announcements so they are obviously certain the uncertainty will continue for an uncertain period. Furthermore, I'm told they are now entirely clear that the cause of this problem is the lack of a solution and that they will therefore adopt a down to earth approach whilst things are up in the air.

I'm sure that if they don't get their way they will put their foot down with a firm hand.

It's probably a case of the FEWER the signings, the HIGHER the league position. However ..... ..... after careful inconsideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to panic. I've sent to NC/NA a list of ALL the players that were so useless last year that their clubs have released them early from their contracts and reminded him about the sad demise of Rangers and the Skates. They're all available on the cheap, but, knowing how being cheapskates would anger those on here wanting to see the cash spent, I've advised NC to slip a few extra million to the players' former clubs. Know what? I've just heard back from NC and the deals are being done. So far, he's signed Badboy Barton for £30m (wages £150k per week), the entire Rangers squad for a mere £250m, Emile Heskey on a pay-as-you-fallover deal (est. to be worth £10m to the player and a few million to each of his former clubs - turns out his agent put a sell-on clause in all his previous contracts), Halford, Kanu and Kitson are all on their way for a knock-down £100m (and they've thrown in the shed) ...... and, the really great news is that we've just bought Tommy Forecast for £150m from ...... eh ...... us! So, that's an aditional £150m in the transfer kitty to fund the Messi/Iniesta deal I predict will be completed before the end of the week. It's a great time to be a Saint!

No offence, but you musn't panic in an hysterical way. I am looking at things with much more placid alarm and self possessed fright. I think it is vital that we keep our composure whilst going to pieces and make sure that everyone is calmed down before putting the wind up them.

Fair point, but I'd still rather have Clive Dunn (Corp. Jones) in charge of transfer policy! He's a man who knew exactly how to panic and when. If you calm, sensible people on here had your way, we'd have Douglas Adams doing all the nogotiating in a 'Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy' sort of way ..... DON'T PANIC this and DON'T PANIC that. How on earth can people do business if they don't panic? If we don't panic buy soon, NA will be saying, 'so long and thanks for all the skates!'

If you start reading Vogon poetry and quoting it in detail on here, then I suspect many of us will leave this site.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly Bigfeller777 thy micturations are to me.
As plurdled gabbleblotchits like Phylis on a lurgid bee.
Groop Fatty I implore thee, Dan, Bob and Bill my foonting Seedhouse turlingdromes.
And Confucious hooptiously drangle me with Tugboat Osprey crinkly WobblyCat bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the Puppy gobberwarts with my Retford blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

(There, that should rid the site of all skates, WUMs and moaners. If they come back, they'll get something tasteless by Azgoths of Kria.)

P.S. Think we'll signed another Davies?

Not to mention the person from Redbridge!

However The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Sussex, in the destruction of the planet Earth.

That was in the Film version, the book version said the location was Greenbridge, Essex!

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
I,m starting to feel a bit dissalusioned.

Normally I would be promoting the Saints management.
I have seen that they have been all over the place trying to sign players and no one seems to want to sign.

----------------I'M AVAILABLE-----------



Not one approach yet.
Can't believe it!
Would have loved a trip to France.
Can still kick a ball (just).
Used to be decent, any way, I'll be cheap,make a great cup of tea.
Done loads of training (Just in case).
Happy to say I can now run to the corner shop for the Pink and not get to breathless.
I'll happily negotiate directly with NC as I am old school and don't need an agent.
THE FUTURE OF SAINTS HERE IS AT STAKE DUE TO THE LACK OF SIGNINGS IF YOU LISTEN TO SOME OF THE POSTERS

----------COME AND GET ME--------

dont miss this chance or WHA or Reading may come calling.
COYR

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
I,m starting to feel a bit dissalusioned.

Normally I would be promoting the Saints management.
I have seen that they have been all over the place trying to sign players and no one seems to want to sign.

----------------I'M AVAILABLE-----------




Not one approach yet.
Can't believe it!
Would have loved a trip to France.
Can still kick a ball (just).
Used to be decent, any way, I'll be cheap,make a great cup of tea.
Done loads of training (Just in case).
Happy to say I can now run to the corner shop for the Pink and not get to breathless.
I'll happily negotiate directly with NC as I am old school and don't need an agent.
THE FUTURE OF SAINTS HERE IS AT STAKE DUE TO THE LACK OF SIGNINGS IF YOU LISTEN TO SOME OF THE POSTERS

----------COME AND GET ME--------

dont miss this chance or WHA or Reading may come calling.
COYR

Me too! (although I'll say it only once) :)


........... and I'm cheap!

milton road wrote:
Its natural for people to be nervous that we do not seem to be bringing the players in.
Watching the over-reaction of a few fans because someone has dared to make it clear they are nervous. The accusations of them not being fans because they have worries about lack of activity on the transfer market. Makes them no less a fan nor does it mean they moan in their seats
There is excitement right across the board, everyone wants Saints to do well. Some are impatient, others worry our squad is not strong enough, others think the squad is strong enough.
NA and NC have not let us down in the past.
I think we would all like action on the transfer market.
Yet if Alex has become over priced, then maybe we have turned our attention elsewhere to someone like Clyne or some other player.
Maybe with the extra finance quoted we can get a better player elsewhere for the money. Maybe Alex will still come. Everything is a maybe until it happens.
Reading and West Ham are extensively up grading their squads.
I am sure we will sign several players. Yet we have to be sure, they are the right player and at a price that is in line with their ability.
This sometimes takes time. Yes NA said at the end of the season he had a wish list. Yet it is not always possible to get the player you want. Then you have to revise and look elsewhere.Whether we buy a player now or 2 days before the season starts, the important thing is to get the right player, with the right temperament.
NA has basically said he is looking on 3-4 new players at least, besides those he has got.
So chill folks lets not slag each other off. Don't get like the fishy folk down the road.
We all care about the club.