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Timetable of events for the first day of the 2012 London Olympics
4:00am Friday 27th July 2012 in Sport
The Olympic Stadium in London
The long wait for the start of the London Olympics is almost over.
This is a timetable of what will happen today, up until the opening ceremony this evening.
7am: The Olympic flame will be carried through Hampton Court Palace.
7.30am: The flame will board the royal rowbarge Gloriana, on which a ceremonial cauldron will be lit as the vessel sails along the River Thames.
12.45pm: Gloriana will arrive at Tower Bridge, where the flame will remain at City Hall before the last leg of its 70-day, 8,000- mile journey towards the opening ceremony at the Olympic Stadium in Stratford, east London.
4pm: The doors open at the BT London Live Opening Ceremony Celebration Concert in Hyde Park.
Snow Patrol, Stereophonics, Duran Duran and Paolo Nutini will perform for tens of thousands of revellers. There is also a music and sports event at Victoria Park in Tower Hamlets.
4.15pm: The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh will host a reception for around 100 Heads of State and Heads of Government. US First Lady Michelle Obama will be among the guests at the Buckingham Palace event.
5pm: The first spectators will file into the Olympic Stadium ahead of film director Danny Boyle's £27 million opening ceremony.
9pm: The show gets under way in front of an audience of about 62,000 in the stadium and one billion people watching worldwide.
The flame will be used to light the cauldron in the Olympic Park to mark the official opening of the Games.
Many of the event's contents have been kept a closely guarded secret, although it has been revealed the venue will be transformed into a meadow with real animals.
Meanwhile, the countdown clock in Trafalgar Square will reach zero at 9pm.
12am: The opening ceremony will conclude between midnight and 12.30am with a performance by Sir Paul McCartney.
- For more on the Olympics, including venue guides, pen-pics of Hampshire Olympians and much, much more, see our special Olympics section .
Comments(34)
sburman
says...
7:44am Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Well, misery guts, you are probably right. But lets enjoy it anyway and worry about that later
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
good-gosh
says...
8:27am Fri 27 Jul 12
I dont mind how much money the BoE has to print to cover it, so long as we beat mainland Europe.
Shoong
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8:41am Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
southy
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9:03am Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
Shoong
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9:23am Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
southy
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11:21am Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Shoong
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11:33am Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
southy
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12:24pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
OSPREYSAINT
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1:02pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:How about Greece?
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
1:07pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Are you sure? I get the impression that there is an enormous amount of money changing hands and not all of it is going down the drain, if after the event you are proved to be right you can say I told you so! Quite frankly we have to grin and bear it and go along with the folly, you don't have to be miserable all of your life, take a holiday from your dudgeon and join in, never know you might enjoy some of it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
1:10pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:Do you have no belief in our wonderful Coalition Government to get it right? Well, if the Culture Secretary is anything to go by, couldn't even ring a bell without breaking it, we are all doomed.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
Shoong
says...
1:15pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
southy
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1:30pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
Shoong
says...
1:40pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yes, I know.
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
Has he got FA else to do then?
southy
says...
1:52pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:Yes he teaches.
southy wrote:Yes, I know.
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
Has he got FA else to do then?
Torchie1
says...
1:59pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
Torchie1
says...
2:00pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Presumably he sees you as a challenging pupil?
Shoong wrote:Yes he teaches.
southy wrote:Yes, I know.
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
Has he got FA else to do then?
southy
says...
2:29pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Torchie1 wrote:I am way ahead of you Torchie1, you might want to stick up for these people but I will not. its just self servering greed.
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
And not many more will once Henry Publish.
Just think that £13 Trillon in an English Bank having to pay tax on the interest, Would be more than enough to wipe out the Uk National Debt.
The guardian is pointing at the directions private deals in Western Africa which is nothing new.
I can quote from James Terry primary report, if you like, which is not finished at the moment, because he still chasing the paper trails, he says at the bottom it could reach as much as £20 Trillion from the UK 1%
TEBOURBA
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4:14pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Southy is absolutely right !
The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time.
A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost.
All it does is to increase nationalism.
Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money.
It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves.
A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine!
Wake me up when it's all over!
The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time.
A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost.
All it does is to increase nationalism.
Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money.
It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves.
A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine!
Wake me up when it's all over!
Shoong
says...
4:25pm Fri 27 Jul 12
TEBOURBA wrote:The short term view of things is easy because it doesn't require much thought, just reactionary comments.
Southy is absolutely right !
The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time.
A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost.
All it does is to increase nationalism.
Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money.
It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves.
A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine!
Wake me up when it's all over!
Huffter
says...
4:28pm Fri 27 Jul 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Yeah - lets all be miserable and count the cost. We'll wake you up when it's all over. Sad life isn't it.
Southy is absolutely right ! The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time. A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost. All it does is to increase nationalism. Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money. It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves. A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine! Wake me up when it's all over!
Torchie1
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4:31pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Lets see if you can understand the difference between this offering ' over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population' and a report in The Guardian that stated this 'A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore ' Oh dear but here's another of Henrys quotes 'He shows that at least £13tn – perhaps up to £20tn – has leaked out of scores of countries'.
Torchie1 wrote:I am way ahead of you Torchie1, you might want to stick up for these people but I will not. its just self servering greed.
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
And not many more will once Henry Publish.
Just think that £13 Trillon in an English Bank having to pay tax on the interest, Would be more than enough to wipe out the Uk National Debt.
The guardian is pointing at the directions private deals in Western Africa which is nothing new.
I can quote from James Terry primary report, if you like, which is not finished at the moment, because he still chasing the paper trails, he says at the bottom it could reach as much as £20 Trillion from the UK 1%
As usual you read a few words that got you interested and made up the rest in your head as you pounded out your response in an attempt to appear informed. Failed once again, back to the bottom of the class. Spend an hour reading and attempt to understand what your subject matter is before even contemplating a reply unless you want to carry on looking foolish.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:43pm Fri 27 Jul 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Please don't wake him up, not worth it.
Southy is absolutely right !
The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time.
A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost.
All it does is to increase nationalism.
Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money.
It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves.
A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine!
Wake me up when it's all over!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:44pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Torchie1 wrote:Well, OK but how will it improve my Pension?
southy wrote:Lets see if you can understand the difference between this offering ' over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population' and a report in The Guardian that stated this 'A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore ' Oh dear but here's another of Henrys quotes 'He shows that at least £13tn – perhaps up to £20tn – has leaked out of scores of countries'.
Torchie1 wrote:I am way ahead of you Torchie1, you might want to stick up for these people but I will not. its just self servering greed.
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
And not many more will once Henry Publish.
Just think that £13 Trillon in an English Bank having to pay tax on the interest, Would be more than enough to wipe out the Uk National Debt.
The guardian is pointing at the directions private deals in Western Africa which is nothing new.
I can quote from James Terry primary report, if you like, which is not finished at the moment, because he still chasing the paper trails, he says at the bottom it could reach as much as £20 Trillion from the UK 1%
As usual you read a few words that got you interested and made up the rest in your head as you pounded out your response in an attempt to appear informed. Failed once again, back to the bottom of the class. Spend an hour reading and attempt to understand what your subject matter is before even contemplating a reply unless you want to carry on looking foolish.
Georgem
says...
6:34pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:So you admit you're trolling. Well done. This is the first step.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Now, Rahit Maryada - what was that all about?
Torchie1
says...
7:26pm Fri 27 Jul 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It's only a theoretical essay designed to appeal to the Southys of this world. No-one will be asked to prove anything and there's no evidence to hold up, so I guess your pension will be down to you to sort out, just like the rest of us.
Torchie1 wrote:Well, OK but how will it improve my Pension?
southy wrote:Lets see if you can understand the difference between this offering ' over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population' and a report in The Guardian that stated this 'A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore ' Oh dear but here's another of Henrys quotes 'He shows that at least £13tn – perhaps up to £20tn – has leaked out of scores of countries'.
Torchie1 wrote:I am way ahead of you Torchie1, you might want to stick up for these people but I will not. its just self servering greed.
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
And not many more will once Henry Publish.
Just think that £13 Trillon in an English Bank having to pay tax on the interest, Would be more than enough to wipe out the Uk National Debt.
The guardian is pointing at the directions private deals in Western Africa which is nothing new.
I can quote from James Terry primary report, if you like, which is not finished at the moment, because he still chasing the paper trails, he says at the bottom it could reach as much as £20 Trillion from the UK 1%
As usual you read a few words that got you interested and made up the rest in your head as you pounded out your response in an attempt to appear informed. Failed once again, back to the bottom of the class. Spend an hour reading and attempt to understand what your subject matter is before even contemplating a reply unless you want to carry on looking foolish.
Huffter
says...
7:34pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Any chance of Southy and Shoong talking to each other personally instead of boring the rest of us?
Scrutinizer
says...
7:36pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:Come on now! You're still sulking 'cause they put the wrong flag up for your team-which incidentally was absolutely HI-LARIOUS! ;-)
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
Scrutinizer
says...
8:00pm Fri 27 Jul 12
southy wrote:And you a self-professed 'internationalist'! What a joke?!
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
All those enthusiastic young 'silly', 'naive' 'capitalist', 'slave' 'lackey', multi-race folk, getting together to 'waste their time' making friendships for life, speading peace and good-will - competitors and spectators alike - and all you can do is try to trash-talk their wonderfully inspiring efforts!
Tut, tut, t-u---t... So we can expect a local news announcement sometime soon then, about 'someone' jumping off the ol' Itchen bridge? I wonder who that could be?!
Torchie1
says...
8:33pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Scrutinizer wrote:Hopefully it won't clash with the mens 100 metres.
southy wrote:And you a self-professed 'internationalist'! What a joke?!
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
All those enthusiastic young 'silly', 'naive' 'capitalist', 'slave' 'lackey', multi-race folk, getting together to 'waste their time' making friendships for life, speading peace and good-will - competitors and spectators alike - and all you can do is try to trash-talk their wonderfully inspiring efforts!
Tut, tut, t-u---t... So we can expect a local news announcement sometime soon then, about 'someone' jumping off the ol' Itchen bridge? I wonder who that could be?!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:58pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Torchie1 wrote:Bother! It's a blooming minefield trying to find ways of cheating the system I was hoping for some help here.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It's only a theoretical essay designed to appeal to the Southys of this world. No-one will be asked to prove anything and there's no evidence to hold up, so I guess your pension will be down to you to sort out, just like the rest of us.
Torchie1 wrote:Well, OK but how will it improve my Pension?
southy wrote:Lets see if you can understand the difference between this offering ' over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population' and a report in The Guardian that stated this 'A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore ' Oh dear but here's another of Henrys quotes 'He shows that at least £13tn – perhaps up to £20tn – has leaked out of scores of countries'.
Torchie1 wrote:I am way ahead of you Torchie1, you might want to stick up for these people but I will not. its just self servering greed.
southy wrote:A brief glance at the first line of the report on the TJN in The Guardian shows that once again you fail to understand a subject before trying to use it to promote your own sad agenda. Do you ever actually try to understand something before putting your foot in it?
Shoong wrote:lol not that one, James Henry the Economist Historian who chases paper trails around the world, he part of the Tax Justice Network, he was chasing Cameron paper trail and came across a lot of Tax hiden money, over £13 Trillion hiden in Tax Free Countrys from 1% of the UK Population and thats on top of £750 Billion sitting in British Banks by big business and not being used to invest.
southy wrote:Yep, wish him and the Millwall team the best for next season for me.
Shoong wrote:It might be the time now to set it up in one country and every country to put money into it.
southy wrote:There are many pros and cons to it, too many to go into here, it won't do us any good just to shut up shop and let everyone else do it.
Shoong wrote:oh your learning fast, i not going to be able to draw you in on this one.
southy wrote:Yep, anyone worth their salt knows all this already, your simply pointing out the obvious to bait the water perhaps.
Shoong wrote:The Olympics have not even broken even since the Mexico Olympics.
southy wrote:It's worth remembering that when we won the Olympic bid, things were a lot different world economy wise, it's not like you can pull out of it so we may as well make the best of it.
When its all over we find out how much it has put us in debt
The cost since then have have only got bigger, and each one after the debt is larger than the one before.
Winning the Olympic bid when we did It was all ready known that it would leave a massive debt for the UK
but seriously, its crazy knowing that it will leave a country in debt that will take up to 30 years to pay off, to want to put in for it in the first place, Even the world cup is becoming like that now.
Just been talking to James Henry on Skype phone, if you know who he is.
And not many more will once Henry Publish.
Just think that £13 Trillon in an English Bank having to pay tax on the interest, Would be more than enough to wipe out the Uk National Debt.
The guardian is pointing at the directions private deals in Western Africa which is nothing new.
I can quote from James Terry primary report, if you like, which is not finished at the moment, because he still chasing the paper trails, he says at the bottom it could reach as much as £20 Trillion from the UK 1%
As usual you read a few words that got you interested and made up the rest in your head as you pounded out your response in an attempt to appear informed. Failed once again, back to the bottom of the class. Spend an hour reading and attempt to understand what your subject matter is before even contemplating a reply unless you want to carry on looking foolish.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:00pm Fri 27 Jul 12
Huffter wrote:That goes for me and LH and the Iron Lady at times, but hey ho, we are still here!
Any chance of Southy and Shoong talking to each other personally instead of boring the rest of us?
OSPREYSAINT
says...
7:25am Sat 4 Aug 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Just think that all of the money being spent on the Olympics is money not being spent on weapons of death and destruction!
Southy is absolutely right !
The Olympics are a waste of money and a waste of time.
A banker caused, flat broke nation such as ours, should never have bid for it, every nation that has held it has been left counting the cost.
All it does is to increase nationalism.
Just think how many homes, hospitals, schools, transport improvements, training opportunities, etc. that could have been created for the same money.
It will be a games for the multi- national companies to swell their profits and a shop window for millionaires and Royalty to parade themselves.
A far cry from the games of old, where true amateurs trained before and after doing a full shift in the office, factory or coal mine!
Wake me up when it's all over!
southy says...
7:36am Fri 27 Jul 12