Matt le Tissier says Southampton need more defensive cover

Matt Le Tissier Matt Le Tissier

SAINTS legend Matt Le Tissier admits the biggest surprise of Saints’ transfer dealings this summer is that they have not yet signed a new centre half.

With just five days until the club’s opening Premier League fixture at defending champions Manchester City, the only movement at the heart of defence has been in an outward direction, with Aaron Martin moving to Crystal Palace on a season-long loan.

That has left just the regular pairing of Jose Fonte and Jos Hooiveld, with only Dan Seaborne and untested youngster Jack Stephens providing backup.

Le Tissier believes Saints need more in that position if they are to cope with the sort of firepower that their top flight opponents will be attacking them with.

“The biggest surprise to me is that there have been no centre backs brought in,” he said. “I think we’re lacking a bit in that department, in terms of strength in depth.”

The man voted the greatest Saints player of all-time by supporters admitted he had expected additions in another area by now as well.

“I thought maybe a wide player with the kind of real pace that’s going to frighten defenders and make teams defend a bit deeper,” he said.

“With the amount of money that was made from the club getting into the Premier League, I don’t think we’ve spent much of it yet.”

Le Tissier is satisfied with the four players that have arrived this summer, though, highlighting former Palace right back Nathaniel Clyne as a “bargain signing”.

And he believes that, as they have done for the past few seasons, Saints can follow in the footsteps of Norwich and survive in their first season back among the elite.

“I look at what Norwich did last season and I think the squads are pretty similar, so I see no reason why we can’t get somewhere near what Norwich achieved. I would certainly be happy with 14th or 15th place – somewhere around there,” said Le Tissier.

With the visit to Manchester City being followed by contests against Wigan, Manchester United and Arsenal, the Dell legend concedes that it might be a bumpy start for Saints.

But he is confident that, even if they are down at the bottom after the opening few weeks, they will still survive.

Le Tissier has plenty of past experience to point towards, having been part of the Saints team that lost eight of their first nine matches in 1993/94 and managed to stay up, as well as the 1998/99 side, which escaped the bottom three despite winning just a single point in their first eight games.

“If we had four points after four games I think that would be pretty decent,” he said.

“I think most fans looking at that now would take that.

“Three wouldn’t be disastrous, but anything less than that would probably be viewed as not a great start.

“I remember playing in a side once that I think had one point after eight games and we still survived.

“So my message to the fans would be yes, it’s a tough start, but if it doesn’t go great then don’t lose the faith, because we have overcome worse.”

Comments(195)

StevieSteve says...
9:29am Tue 14 Aug 12

Legend.

StevieSteve says...
9:32am Tue 14 Aug 12

We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.

LeTissiersEarLobe says...
9:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

Love le tiss !!!

LeTissiersEarLobe says...
9:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

He da man, sign Scott dann Ffs

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:38am Tue 14 Aug 12

He's right but I'm sure the club know it and are trying hard. If they weren't planning another CB they wouldn't have let Martin out on loan. Also NA has admitted our interest in Phillips so unless someone else offers silly money I guess we will get him.

mattserg says...
9:39am Tue 14 Aug 12

SUPER MATTY!!! LEGEND!!! and 100% right... couldnt agree more

Hobson82 says...
9:49am Tue 14 Aug 12

We MUST sign a centre half before Sunday. I read on Sky Sports yesterday that Seabourne is being linked with a move to Millwall or Charlton, if this is true then surely a defender is on the verge of signing.

montecristosaint says...
10:06am Tue 14 Aug 12

My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.

ToastyTea says...
10:09am Tue 14 Aug 12

Mattie is right, we really need some more players at the back and without some new blood I fear for our lives.
Fonte makes clumsy mistakes and we will get punished for them this season, badly.

bigfella777 says...
10:13am Tue 14 Aug 12

Saints should go after Kolo Toure who is out of favour at City because of Lescott.

laffaminute says...
10:14am Tue 14 Aug 12

ToastyTea wrote:
Mattie is right, we really need some more players at the back and without some new blood I fear for our lives. Fonte makes clumsy mistakes and we will get punished for them this season, badly.
a very honest comment !

bigfella777 says...
10:15am Tue 14 Aug 12

Kolo Toure up for 3 mill, bargain.

Block41row0sfc says...
10:16am Tue 14 Aug 12

I fear we will wait to see we are 25% off being good enough at the back. I do think we need CB RM ASAP anything as will be a major bonus.

laffaminute says...
10:17am Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
5-0 ? you are the optomist of the day, but i thought you were playing sunday

Block41row0sfc says...
10:17am Tue 14 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
Kolo Toure up for 3 mill, bargain.
Agree with that. Are wages a stumbling point?

bigfella777 says...
10:20am Tue 14 Aug 12

Block41row0sfc wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Kolo Toure up for 3 mill, bargain.
Agree with that. Are wages a stumbling point?
He threw his medal into the crowd after the charity shield after being left on the bench and had a row with Mancini,he just wants to play.

worried of n e hampshire says...
10:21am Tue 14 Aug 12

come on cherries (silly name)

long memory says...
10:23am Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
If you keep your head,when all about are losing theirs,if you can wait and not be tired by waiting, you'll turn into a true Saints fan my son.

RedArmy1 says...
10:24am Tue 14 Aug 12

Good Call. Fans have been wanting this all Summer.

Also missed out on getting Buttner to strengthen the Defence.

Goalkeeping situation not entirely sorted out - we lost Bart and got a similar player in to play second fiddle to Kelvin.

Need to spend and get in more quality.
in these 3 key areas.

Need to fight in the League Games - as if each game was a Cup Final to secure points.

Keep Barney etc for Cup Games where players will be too exhausted to fight in all competitions.

RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN. COYR.

franiow says...
10:33am Tue 14 Aug 12

So if we lose 5.0 on Sunday it's too late to put it right...and there's me thinking we had a lot more games after that.

puppy saint says...
10:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

The Echo must have turned the tw&t magnet on.

Spudsaint says...
10:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
5-0 ? you are the optomist of the day, but i thought you were playing sunday
I do trust NC and why not? Some people have very short memories. I'm sure we have a number of signings lined up as NA keeps saying and that the £ deals will be negotiated as the deadline approaches. There will also be loan opportunities. In the meantime we play the existing defence in games that we're unlikely to win anyway. As Matt says 4pts from the first 4 games would be great. I'd tak that. We will take some beatings this season whoever we play, but we must stay united & strong as we did for the 28 consecutive seasons we were last in the top flight. When NC starts taking the Prem money out of the club like Lowe and his mob did, that's the time to kick up. COYR!

Spudsaint says...
10:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
5-0 ? you are the optomist of the day, but i thought you were playing sunday
I do trust NC and why not? Some people have very short memories. I'm sure we have a number of signings lined up as NA keeps saying and that the £ deals will be negotiated as the deadline approaches. There will also be loan opportunities. In the meantime we play the existing defence in games that we're unlikely to win anyway. As Matt says 4pts from the first 4 games would be great. I'd tak that. We will take some beatings this season whoever we play, but we must stay united & strong as we did for the 28 consecutive seasons we were last in the top flight. When NC starts taking the Prem money out of the club like Lowe and his mob did, that's the time to kick up. COYR!

laffaminute says...
10:38am Tue 14 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
If you keep your head,when all about are losing theirs,if you can wait and not be tired by waiting, you'll turn into a true Saints fan my son.
As long as you know what day your games are.

george chivers says...
10:41am Tue 14 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
If you keep your head,when all about are losing theirs,if you can wait and not be tired by waiting, you'll turn into a true Saints fan my son.
With you all the way Montecristosaint.

Although I do think the agents make things worse by raising prices and hanging the deals out to the last minute so they can extract the maximum from each transaction.

I would like to see the transfer window closed at midnight on the Friday before the season starts, with clubs having to submit their player lists by midday on the following Saturday, or have points deducted.

I am shocked by the blind faith some fans have in NC and NA but there again that is what religion is all about!

RedArmy1 says...
10:47am Tue 14 Aug 12

Let's get behind the Team and make a difference on the Terraces.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRMY

mack chinnon says...
10:48am Tue 14 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
come on cherries (silly name)
And Plymouth.

sarfhamton says...
10:52am Tue 14 Aug 12

What is worse spending like Pompey and Leeds, then going bust again or taking it steady and building over the next few seasons even if that means a struggle?

In Adkins we trust, as for the legends.............
thanks for the memories now go back to the golf course and mind your own!

info@denisbundy.co.uk says...
11:03am Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
One of the most realistic and insightful posts Ive seen in a while and I couldn't agree more. I think you could put your trust in Adkins if he is finally given the proper support from the Chairman that the he and the Saints deserve.

Tony in Liberia says...
11:18am Tue 14 Aug 12

JUst because the club is owned by a rich family does not make us competing with the top clubs for international superstars; we still have to pay the wages, and with a ground holding 32000 (which will be full most weeks, laffaminute, you park-packing-I-don't
-think-pot-of-toss), we cannot generate teh income to pay wages to compete with the top 6 clubs; maybe not even the top 10. I want the club to be self-sustainin, not funded from the pockets of someone who might pull the plug any moment. So, we cannot sign anyonewe want; that's the blatant truth.

So, I trust NA & NC to know what we need, and know how to look for it. I also trust them to buy people who fit into the Saints system (playing and financial), without mucking everything up. And I trust them to do this because they've proved perfectly capable of doing it so far.

And if we dont get more than 4 points in the first 4 games, so what? The season is 38 games, and we wouldn't have expected much more than 3 points from those particular games anyway.

I keep the faith until I see reason to do otherwise, and I support the team & manager all I can during that process. I suggest we all do the same; the worst thing supporters can do is pass fear and negativity on to the players.

Listen to Red Army (and, of course, Confucious, who is a genius. Mad as a bag of monkeys, but a genius), and not the negative cr@p. Support!!!!!!

insane saint says...
11:22am Tue 14 Aug 12

RedArmy1 wrote:
Good Call. Fans have been wanting this all Summer.

Also missed out on getting Buttner to strengthen the Defence.

Goalkeeping situation not entirely sorted out - we lost Bart and got a similar player in to play second fiddle to Kelvin.

Need to spend and get in more quality.
in these 3 key areas.

Need to fight in the League Games - as if each game was a Cup Final to secure points.

Keep Barney etc for Cup Games where players will be too exhausted to fight in all competitions.

RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN. COYR.
bit tame today Red Army1

LET GO GET THEM

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE

WE ARE HERE TO STAY

COYR

now that feels better

lewie_7 says...
11:29am Tue 14 Aug 12

Agree that Kolo Toure would make a great signing, as would William Gallas to add top experience and character in the heart of defence. However, this goes against our transfer policy and breaking the wage structure for an ageing player may disrupt harmony with the playing group. I believe what has made saints great the past couple of seasons is that there are no 'marquee' players, and so better targets may be the lad QPR are looking at Kurt Zouma who looks quality and Danny Rose who had a great tournament at the olympics for GB, looks out of favour at spurs and could be the perfect alternative to Buttner. Also Lens, Butland and another CB would be nice but think were going to have to put faith in our scouting network... Be nice if they hurried up though!

ecuk268 says...
11:43am Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
We won't be competing with the top clubs until we have a similar fanbase.

The UEFA Financial Fair Play rules which are being introduced will prevent rich owners from subsidising large operating losses (as in Chelsea and Man City).

Should eventually result in a more even league although the smaller clubs will always be at a disadvantage.

Dickosfc says...
11:45am Tue 14 Aug 12

WE'RE PREMIER LEAGUE, WE'RE PREMIER LEEEAAAGGGUUUEE, WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON, WE'RE PREMIER LEAGUE!!!
.
Cheer up (some) people FFS!! Completely agree that the last thing we want to do is rub fear and negitivity into our players right from the start.

SO50 Saint says...
11:54am Tue 14 Aug 12

If i'm honest i'm looking forward to this time next week once the Man City game is out the way. Not overly confident about that but if we can go there and put in a decent performance i'll be happy. Like someone has stated before it won't be our results in these games that decide our fate but the matches against the Wigans and Norwich's etc. I'm confident we will do alright could do with a few more signings of course but if we are not in the bottom 3 after the game at the emirates, I think we can say we have had a fairly decent start to the season with 3 of the toughest games already out of the way.

lavalady says...
11:57am Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday
4-0!!!

Flashin the pan says...
12:08pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated.
Not looking good you scummers.
5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?

puppy saint says...
12:10pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated.
Not looking good you scummers.
5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?
http://www.portsmout
h.co.uk/sport/pompey
/pompey-past/appleto
n-certain-of-relegat
ion-after-budget-cut
-1-4158095

Looking a lot better than this.

SO50 Saint says...
12:17pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Flashin hows the preparations going for the massive games against Plymouth and Bournemouth? Are you taking the trip to Plymouth? What's your formation looking like being this year? How are the new signings settling in?

RedArmy1 says...
12:36pm Tue 14 Aug 12

insane saint wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote: Good Call. Fans have been wanting this all Summer. Also missed out on getting Buttner to strengthen the Defence. Goalkeeping situation not entirely sorted out - we lost Bart and got a similar player in to play second fiddle to Kelvin. Need to spend and get in more quality. in these 3 key areas. Need to fight in the League Games - as if each game was a Cup Final to secure points. Keep Barney etc for Cup Games where players will be too exhausted to fight in all competitions. RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN. COYR.
bit tame today Red Army1 LET GO GET THEM WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE WE ARE HERE TO STAY COYR now that feels better
We have improved the Squad.

Time now to FIGHT and WIN.

Southampton are one of Man City's bogey teams and we must make each game count.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR

dopplershift says...
12:41pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
puppy saint wrote:
Flashin the pan wrote: Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated. Not looking good you scummers. 5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?
http://www.portsmout h.co.uk/sport/pompey /pompey-past/appleto n-certain-of-relegat ion-after-budget-cut -1-4158095 Looking a lot better than this.
It’s a laffaminute according to the Farton scummers, stop it my sides are hurting too much. There’s delusional and then there’s skunt, it's a whole new level
LOL. Here we are nervous about playing Man City in the PREM with a weak defence and the blue lot are already talking about relegation before xmas. and that's their manager speaking!!!

SFCOLDBOY says...
12:48pm Tue 14 Aug 12

seventh-junction wrote:
skate_hate wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
puppy saint wrote:
The Echo must have turned the tw&t magnet on.
Yes seems like youve arrived
Your are the Skunt gift that keeps giving on here JaffaMinute ..... Sadly for you though, you only ever fire blanks and it’s always over far too quickly with little in the way of style or imagination. No wonder she left you
Who left him? His sister?
Or was it his alter ego?....
Very perceptive,Alter ego,me thinks, roll on September.
Back to school.
Bit like last year.
Didn't he get kicked off?

AaronLeeSaint says...
12:51pm Tue 14 Aug 12

lewie_7 wrote:
Agree that Kolo Toure would make a great signing, as would William Gallas to add top experience and character in the heart of defence. However, this goes against our transfer policy and breaking the wage structure for an ageing player may disrupt harmony with the playing group. I believe what has made saints great the past couple of seasons is that there are no 'marquee' players, and so better targets may be the lad QPR are looking at Kurt Zouma who looks quality and Danny Rose who had a great tournament at the olympics for GB, looks out of favour at spurs and could be the perfect alternative to Buttner. Also Lens, Butland and another CB would be nice but think were going to have to put faith in our scouting network... Be nice if they hurried up though!
Kolo Toure's wage would not allow a potential signing. However a player like Boyata or Onuoha (who I believe was on loan at QPR if not then permanent) would fit the bill in terms of CB.

Obviously the usual procedure for the purchase of a player in an already over abundant area is to offload to reload, but the reloading is take somewhat longer than expected and with the Premier League less than a week away, we don't have time to implement the potential signings into our tactic, so patience, hopefully new implented signings will be on show against Wigan.

laffaminute says...
1:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

RedArmy1 wrote:
insane saint wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote: Good Call. Fans have been wanting this all Summer. Also missed out on getting Buttner to strengthen the Defence. Goalkeeping situation not entirely sorted out - we lost Bart and got a similar player in to play second fiddle to Kelvin. Need to spend and get in more quality. in these 3 key areas. Need to fight in the League Games - as if each game was a Cup Final to secure points. Keep Barney etc for Cup Games where players will be too exhausted to fight in all competitions. RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN. COYR.
bit tame today Red Army1 LET GO GET THEM WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE WE ARE HERE TO STAY COYR now that feels better
We have improved the Squad. Time now to FIGHT and WIN. Southampton are one of Man City's bogey teams and we must make each game count. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR
Now that is a good laff.

Alicesdad says...
1:02pm Tue 14 Aug 12

StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.

new forest saint says...
1:02pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
No Montecristosaint, what really takes the biscuit is the extraordinary lack of faith and patience towards NC and NA by some people. The only thing they've got wrong thus far has been to over estimate by two years how long our return to the premiership would take !! So what's so extraordinary about showing some trust and loyalty to a management team who have always been good to their word .... thats common sense not folly, mate !

ramptonfromsouthampton says...
1:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
You again? Tell me Montecristo, just which professional football teams have you previously managed as you seem
to be such an expert on all matters from transfers to team formation? If you seriously think we should be competing with the top six clubs in this division in the transfer market then you are even more deluded than I previously thought you were. Sorry if that sounds harsh but really....!

bigfella777 says...
1:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Just read the news about the skates wage budget, 1.5 mil for a whole season ha ha ha,thats LESS than a league 2 side.
I think they are going to have the worst season ever seen in the football league.
We will see how many fans go to their games to see that bilge.

laffaminute says...
1:12pm Tue 14 Aug 12

lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.

Inspiral Saint says...
1:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tony in Liberia wrote:
JUst because the club is owned by a rich family does not make us competing with the top clubs for international superstars; we still have to pay the wages, and with a ground holding 32000 (which will be full most weeks, laffaminute, you park-packing-I-don't -think-pot-of-toss), we cannot generate teh income to pay wages to compete with the top 6 clubs; maybe not even the top 10. I want the club to be self-sustainin, not funded from the pockets of someone who might pull the plug any moment. So, we cannot sign anyonewe want; that's the blatant truth. So, I trust NA & NC to know what we need, and know how to look for it. I also trust them to buy people who fit into the Saints system (playing and financial), without mucking everything up. And I trust them to do this because they've proved perfectly capable of doing it so far. And if we dont get more than 4 points in the first 4 games, so what? The season is 38 games, and we wouldn't have expected much more than 3 points from those particular games anyway. I keep the faith until I see reason to do otherwise, and I support the team & manager all I can during that process. I suggest we all do the same; the worst thing supporters can do is pass fear and negativity on to the players. Listen to Red Army (and, of course, Confucious, who is a genius. Mad as a bag of monkeys, but a genius), and not the negative cr@p. Support!!!!!!
Very well said, couldn't agree more!

Confucious says...
1:18pm Tue 14 Aug 12

new forest saint wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
No Montecristosaint, what really takes the biscuit is the extraordinary lack of faith and patience towards NC and NA by some people. The only thing they've got wrong thus far has been to over estimate by two years how long our return to the premiership would take !! So what's so extraordinary about showing some trust and loyalty to a management team who have always been good to their word .... thats common sense not folly, mate !
That's all very well, but - apart from putting the club on a sound financial footing, investing heavily in the training and academy infrastructure for the future and winning two successive promotions to reach the No1 league in the world and replacing - what have Nicola and Nigel done for us?

Landdo says...
1:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Not so much relating to this story in particular but If any editors are reading could you make them with NA's positivity in mind! Even if we get beat by man city or whoever over the course of the season could you focus on the positives :) now I'm not asking for lie's or anything just uplifting articles even when the results aren't going our way, NA it's trying to mold a positive upbeat club I would love it if the echo tried to nurture the same environment

St Retford says...
1:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

This would be more of a story if the Echo could find a former Saints player who didn't think we need to strengthen the squad. Like, if we can have, '"They'll be alright as they are - why waste money on new players?" says Ken Monkou' or "The Premiership is easier than the Championship, so we could probably sell Rickie and still win it," reckons Neil Shipperley' then that would make people blink.

As it is, everyone thinks we should strengthen and the club is trying but (and I think some people haven't quite grasped this) the market is very quiet, which is making things very difficult. People aren't going to sell to anyone if they're not confident they'll be able to sign a replacement. It really is that simple.

SO50 Saint says...
1:24pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Funny how one post sums everything up nicely put Confucious. The week leading up to Milwall at home 3 years ago who would have thought 3 years down the line we would be facing the champions on the first game of the season. The job they have done has been fantastic and for that aswell Pardew deserves some praise for putting the wheels in motion. Just sit back and enjoy SFC being back in the spotlight again back where we belong

Murray mint says...
1:26pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
So let's spend spend spend, create a team on borrowed money and end up just like our friends down the road. Better invest in our Academy and Develop kids who really are the best in the country.

new forest saint says...
1:28pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Here, Here !!! Wish there was a few more like you on this site Alicesdad. Have people forgotten just how harrowing it was to be a Saints fan before Cortese came aboard, and I say Cortese because the Leiber's would never of heard of SFC if it wasn't for him. Total respect to our 'legends' from the past but season after season of 'celebrating' 4th from bottom wasn't exactly the glory days !

lowe esteem says...
1:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated.
Not looking good you scummers.
5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?
Surely you should be putting your money elsewhere? Or are you getting your mouths and your ports confused?

lowe esteem says...
1:33pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
It will be too early, as pointed out previously.
Trust Is something you build, surely if you have been on this bus for a while you will know that, now hold on, and try not to look like Captain Mainwaring.

new forest saint says...
1:36pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Confucious wrote:
new forest saint wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
No Montecristosaint, what really takes the biscuit is the extraordinary lack of faith and patience towards NC and NA by some people. The only thing they've got wrong thus far has been to over estimate by two years how long our return to the premiership would take !! So what's so extraordinary about showing some trust and loyalty to a management team who have always been good to their word .... thats common sense not folly, mate !
That's all very well, but - apart from putting the club on a sound financial footing, investing heavily in the training and academy infrastructure for the future and winning two successive promotions to reach the No1 league in the world and replacing - what have Nicola and Nigel done for us?
Yeah, I s'pose so confucious ... the roads round the stadium are cr*p and we never did get the aqueduct !

Murray mint says...
1:37pm Tue 14 Aug 12

new forest saint wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Here, Here !!! Wish there was a few more like you on this site Alicesdad. Have people forgotten just how harrowing it was to be a Saints fan before Cortese came aboard, and I say Cortese because the Leiber's would never of heard of SFC if it wasn't for him. Total respect to our 'legends' from the past but season after season of 'celebrating' 4th from bottom wasn't exactly the glory days !
Truth that. Out of interest are there any startles out there that can tell me the average age and international status of the team that took us to runner up in the 1st division back in the early 80's.

drummernath says...
1:40pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Now Le God is saying this, it makes me worry even more.

Come on Nic 'n' Nige, get someone in so we can all watch us beat City with a bit more confidence!

St Retford says...
1:42pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
My concern is that you are a skate. You've been consistently negative about Nicola for as long as I can remember despite there being quite a lot of evidence to suggest he knows what he's doing.

Murray mint says...
1:42pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Murray mint wrote:
new forest saint wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Here, Here !!! Wish there was a few more like you on this site Alicesdad. Have people forgotten just how harrowing it was to be a Saints fan before Cortese came aboard, and I say Cortese because the Leiber's would never of heard of SFC if it wasn't for him. Total respect to our 'legends' from the past but season after season of 'celebrating' 4th from bottom wasn't exactly the glory days !
Truth that. Out of interest are there any startles out there that can tell me the average age and international status of the team that took us to runner up in the 1st division back in the early 80's.
Apologies if my recollection of dates is a little out, but I was mostly very, very, drunk at the time

Murray mint says...
1:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Murray mint wrote:
Murray mint wrote:
new forest saint wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Here, Here !!! Wish there was a few more like you on this site Alicesdad. Have people forgotten just how harrowing it was to be a Saints fan before Cortese came aboard, and I say Cortese because the Leiber's would never of heard of SFC if it wasn't for him. Total respect to our 'legends' from the past but season after season of 'celebrating' 4th from bottom wasn't exactly the glory days !
Truth that. Out of interest are there any startles out there that can tell me the average age and international status of the team that took us to runner up in the 1st division back in the early 80's.
Apologies if my recollection of dates is a little out, but I was mostly very, very, drunk at the time
Of course, you will all be pleased to know that I now only spend about 90% of my money on Alcohol, there rest I just waste.

Cheapshot says...
1:46pm Tue 14 Aug 12

http://www.talksport
.co.uk/sports-news/f
ootball/premier-leag
ue/transfer-rumours/
120814/ambitious-sai
nts-enter-race-urugu
ay-star-178619

Would never happen but still good to dream!!

St Retford says...
1:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Cheapshot wrote:
http://www.talksport

.co.uk/sports-news/f

ootball/premier-leag

ue/transfer-rumours/

120814/ambitious-sai

nts-enter-race-urugu

ay-star-178619

Would never happen but still good to dream!!
I think we're contractually obliged to make at least one totally leftfield foreign signing per transfer window, so this would fit the bill nicely.

insane saint says...
1:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

RedArmy1 wrote:
insane saint wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote: Good Call. Fans have been wanting this all Summer. Also missed out on getting Buttner to strengthen the Defence. Goalkeeping situation not entirely sorted out - we lost Bart and got a similar player in to play second fiddle to Kelvin. Need to spend and get in more quality. in these 3 key areas. Need to fight in the League Games - as if each game was a Cup Final to secure points. Keep Barney etc for Cup Games where players will be too exhausted to fight in all competitions. RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN. COYR.
bit tame today Red Army1 LET GO GET THEM WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE WE ARE HERE TO STAY COYR now that feels better
We have improved the Squad.

Time now to FIGHT and WIN.

Southampton are one of Man City's bogey teams and we must make each game count.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR
better we want our sargent major back

you getting warmed up for the season

coyr

seventh-junction says...
2:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us.
We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0.
You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now.
Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah
WTFILN FOADP

StevieSteve says...
2:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level.

He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job.

So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified.

For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice.

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Yes. I used to watch him play quite a lot! ;-) My first Saints game was a midweek cup game where he scored a hat trick. Every time he played he produced, not just goals but his passing and touch were outrageous and he made things happen every game he played. I think you've forgotten how good he was, or YOU didn't watch him maybe!?

How can you find concern over new signings unjustly btw??

tugboat says...
2:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.

Cheapshot says...
2:32pm Tue 14 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
Cheapshot wrote:
http://www.talksport


.co.uk/sports-news/f


ootball/premier-leag


ue/transfer-rumours/


120814/ambitious-sai


nts-enter-race-urugu


ay-star-178619

Would never happen but still good to dream!!
I think we're contractually obliged to make at least one totally leftfield foreign signing per transfer window, so this would fit the bill nicely.
Quite right! Lets hope so then!

dopplershift says...
2:54pm Tue 14 Aug 12

StevieSteve wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote: We need a new Le Tiss! Lallana has flashes but is not consistent enough. Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week.
"Matt Le Tiss would produce magic every week" ...Did you ever watch him, and I don't mean the "best of ... videos" ?? . Le Tiss is a legend but his biggest weakness, next to a liking for cream buns and pies, was consistency. He most certainly did not do it every week. But when he did it was simply on another level. He has a point about defenders but this is not news. We all know this. The NC/NA team are on the case. Let them do their job. So far the Echo has dug up Benali and Le Tiss to make a comment in the absence of any news... All this is just criticism of NA/NC when this is totally unjustified. For ****s sake stop moaning and rejoice. WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
Yes. I used to watch him play quite a lot! ;-) My first Saints game was a midweek cup game where he scored a hat trick. Every time he played he produced, not just goals but his passing and touch were outrageous and he made things happen every game he played. I think you've forgotten how good he was, or YOU didn't watch him maybe!? How can you find concern over new signings unjustly btw??
Steviesteve are you the only person on this earth who isn't aware of the reputation le tiss lumbered around with? I mean even he laughs about it.

Folkestone Saint says...
3:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

sarfhamton wrote:
What is worse spending like Pompey and Leeds, then going bust again or taking it steady and building over the next few seasons even if that means a struggle?

In Adkins we trust, as for the legends.............

thanks for the memories now go back to the golf course and mind your own!
So why is it your opinion matters but not that of a well respected and informed ex pro, I know who I would rather listen too and you it aint

sarfhamton says...
3:31pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Folkestone Saint wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
What is worse spending like Pompey and Leeds, then going bust again or taking it steady and building over the next few seasons even if that means a struggle?

In Adkins we trust, as for the legends.............


thanks for the memories now go back to the golf course and mind your own!
So why is it your opinion matters but not that of a well respected and informed ex pro, I know who I would rather listen too and you it aint
Thing is my opinion is worth more than an ex pro because i am a fan, a sky subscriber and a season ticket holder.

Le Tiss and his mates were great back in the day but its time to move on.

I mean no disrespect , i have met Le Tiss and he is a true gent, i just don't like these negative vibes from the Echo.

Confucious says...
3:39pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!

tugboat says...
3:54pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Confucious wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!
Got that-but some people should wear glasses-bino,s for a few-or even an eye op at £5.99.
Available at the saints mega store,one shirt -one op.
Its a winner-nicola are you listening ?
red and white sun shades.
A full range of red and white kitchenware
or how about a red/white wine to be drunk when wearing rose tinted glasses-dont hold me back Im on a role.
Any suggestions to enhance the megastore experience for the doubters?

truelysaints says...
4:02pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Folkestone Saint wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
What is worse spending like Pompey and Leeds, then going bust again or taking it steady and building over the next few seasons even if that means a struggle?

In Adkins we trust, as for the legends.............


thanks for the memories now go back to the golf course and mind your own!
So why is it your opinion matters but not that of a well respected and informed ex pro, I know who I would rather listen too and you it aint
Glad you are not managing Saints. Building up over the next few seasons, you say. If in the premier we stay whilst build up we do.Good players much we need, not future but present need we.

St Retford says...
4:05pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!
Got that-but some people should wear glasses-bino,s for a few-or even an eye op at £5.99.
Available at the saints mega store,one shirt -one op.
Its a winner-nicola are you listening ?
red and white sun shades.
A full range of red and white kitchenware
or how about a red/white wine to be drunk when wearing rose tinted glasses-dont hold me back Im on a role.
Any suggestions to enhance the megastore experience for the doubters?
Good point and one I've been meaning to bring up on here. Why is the megastore in town so unbelievably small? They have room for, like, three different types of clothes and a couple of cuddly toys.I think they need to get a bigger unit so they can display the same range of 'merch' as they do in the one at St Marys.

In fact, I think this should be our priority ahead of signing a new defender.

tugboat says...
4:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!
Got that-but some people should wear glasses-bino,s for a few-or even an eye op at £5.99.
Available at the saints mega store,one shirt -one op.
Its a winner-nicola are you listening ?
red and white sun shades.
A full range of red and white kitchenware
or how about a red/white wine to be drunk when wearing rose tinted glasses-dont hold me back Im on a role.
Any suggestions to enhance the megastore experience for the doubters?
Good point and one I've been meaning to bring up on here. Why is the megastore in town so unbelievably small? They have room for, like, three different types of clothes and a couple of cuddly toys.I think they need to get a bigger unit so they can display the same range of 'merch' as they do in the one at St Marys.

In fact, I think this should be our priority ahead of signing a new defender.
One more thing-and then I,ll drop off the radar, confucious can you come up with a range of acceptable swear words so the pozzy,s like me can vent their anger at the negs without being moderated.
I like the variations of the the word brick for example, I am absolutely bricking fed up with so called supporters calling for bricking signings ,and stating the bricking obvious,dont they think that our Nige doesnt bricking see what they see ?
Over to you.....

St Retford says...
4:24pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Can we say 'felching' on here?

St Retford says...
4:24pm Tue 14 Aug 12

O, apparently we can. Try that...

george chivers says...
4:45pm Tue 14 Aug 12

As one who constantly complains about our lack of signings (I am happy with the ones we have made so far, but think we need another 4). I do however, have some sympathy with our management team when I see Wolves turning down £12M for Steven Fletcher and hanging out for £15M. What a joke £15M for a one in three striker who has played in two relegation teams.

And if Wolves get their £15M that will be a gross profit of £8M which will be a net profit £6.8M after Burnley take their 15% of the profits. Not a huge return and then they have to replace him in a short times scale with all the selling teams knowing what they have to spend. So it is difficult out there to sign players at the right prices and wages. I appreciate that.

But, I do worry about our first 6 games and what it will do to the players confidence if we come out of it with say only 6 points or possibly worse. And yes I know it could be 10/12 but the odds against that are quite high I think.

And there is another thing of course. I can't stand losing!

And I don't subscribe to the idea that going down again will be O.K. because we will still be within the 5 year plan. I think we need to maximise the opportunity we have now. Not throw it away and return to the Championship where the 5 year plan could turn into a 7 year plan.

So I am sympathetic. But I still want a CB, LB, RM and a striker now! Then perhaps we can get 10/12 points out of the first 6 games and head for a mid table position early on.

Wozzie says...
4:53pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated.
Not looking good you scummers.
5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?
We have our work cut out to survive in the TOP FLIGHT!! You have your work cut out to survive!! Who the F____ is laughing now!!

laffaminute says...
4:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

seventh-junction wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0. You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now. Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah WTFILN FOADP
Dident realise you were at our game against Arsenal but well done.

SO50 Saint says...
5:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Enjoy your trip to Plymouth tonight Laff, I do take it you are going as you are the first to criticise any saints fan that doesnt attend a pre-season friendly

slugger says...
5:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
Enjoy your trip to Plymouth tonight Laff, I do take it you are going as you are the first to criticise any saints fan that doesnt attend a pre-season friendly
spot on my friend , truth is that i don't believe laff is a skunt , just one of our old trolls !

long memory says...
5:12pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0. You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now. Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah WTFILN FOADP
Dident realise you were at our game against Arsenal but well done.
Dident?

Confucious says...
5:20pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!
Got that-but some people should wear glasses-bino,s for a few-or even an eye op at £5.99.
Available at the saints mega store,one shirt -one op.
Its a winner-nicola are you listening ?
red and white sun shades.
A full range of red and white kitchenware
or how about a red/white wine to be drunk when wearing rose tinted glasses-dont hold me back Im on a role.
Any suggestions to enhance the megastore experience for the doubters?
Good point and one I've been meaning to bring up on here. Why is the megastore in town so unbelievably small? They have room for, like, three different types of clothes and a couple of cuddly toys.I think they need to get a bigger unit so they can display the same range of 'merch' as they do in the one at St Marys.

In fact, I think this should be our priority ahead of signing a new defender.
One more thing-and then I,ll drop off the radar, confucious can you come up with a range of acceptable swear words so the pozzy,s like me can vent their anger at the negs without being moderated.
I like the variations of the the word brick for example, I am absolutely bricking fed up with so called supporters calling for bricking signings ,and stating the bricking obvious,dont they think that our Nige doesnt bricking see what they see ?
Over to you.....
Don't go there. Five years ago I said "Frak off kakabollox" to my Auntie Elspeth - and I'm still paying for it.

tugboat says...
5:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

george chivers wrote:
As one who constantly complains about our lack of signings (I am happy with the ones we have made so far, but think we need another 4). I do however, have some sympathy with our management team when I see Wolves turning down £12M for Steven Fletcher and hanging out for £15M. What a joke £15M for a one in three striker who has played in two relegation teams.

And if Wolves get their £15M that will be a gross profit of £8M which will be a net profit £6.8M after Burnley take their 15% of the profits. Not a huge return and then they have to replace him in a short times scale with all the selling teams knowing what they have to spend. So it is difficult out there to sign players at the right prices and wages. I appreciate that.

But, I do worry about our first 6 games and what it will do to the players confidence if we come out of it with say only 6 points or possibly worse. And yes I know it could be 10/12 but the odds against that are quite high I think.

And there is another thing of course. I can't stand losing!

And I don't subscribe to the idea that going down again will be O.K. because we will still be within the 5 year plan. I think we need to maximise the opportunity we have now. Not throw it away and return to the Championship where the 5 year plan could turn into a 7 year plan.

So I am sympathetic. But I still want a CB, LB, RM and a striker now! Then perhaps we can get 10/12 points out of the first 6 games and head for a mid table position early on.
10/12 points out of the first 6 games,and then head for a mid table position early doors-were you at rourkes drift ?????(dodgy spelling) George- aim for 4 points from the first four then we will be as happy as a skunt on the dole.Why worry about players confidence? thats NA,s job and he very good at that ,by the way-in fact the best Ive seen.Not about worrying ,but giving confidence..
Stop bricking worrying-back the boys to the hilt-you might be surprised or even bricking shocked..
Nigel Adkins-the south coast,s Shankley-and by the way he was the best manager of all time bar none.
Something to aspire to.

likewatchingbrazil says...
5:26pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0. You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now. Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah WTFILN FOADP
Dident realise you were at our game against Arsenal but well done.
time to get back on your sister fish boy.
e i e i e i o off to europe we will go
e i e i e i o off to plymouth you must go
coyr wtfiln

billythesaint says...
5:32pm Tue 14 Aug 12

The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.

Confucious says...
5:37pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Being a Past chairman of the Armchair Managers Society ,"PAMS" I would like to point out that,I need a new armchair.
Also its worth mentioning that we all know far more than Nigel Adkins and Nicola Cortese-even though they see the players every day.
Furthermore we respectfully ask Nicola to bankrupt the club to keep the whingers happy.
Oh and wasnt saints losing to man city at the start of the season mentioned in the doomsday book.
And more importantly RED ARMY IS BACK.
Lighten up people-SAINTS back in the Prem.
You have to bear in mind Tugboat that some people have half empty glasses which are not only cracked but cut their lips and chip their teeth.

And yes - welcome back RED ARMY!
Got that-but some people should wear glasses-bino,s for a few-or even an eye op at £5.99.
Available at the saints mega store,one shirt -one op.
Its a winner-nicola are you listening ?
red and white sun shades.
A full range of red and white kitchenware
or how about a red/white wine to be drunk when wearing rose tinted glasses-dont hold me back Im on a role.
Any suggestions to enhance the megastore experience for the doubters?
I had persuaded the club to produce some 'Shatton Toilet Roll' with a PFC badge on every sheet, but the Commercial Director said "Frankly mate, post liquidation, no-one will give a sh!t any more."

laffaminute says...
5:46pm Tue 14 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.
50 or 60 thousand ? if you extend the ground it will be packed to the rafters every week.

Fatty x Ford Worker says...
5:58pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Percy reconds lack of investment ouch another defeat the headless chickens are swooping.Panic buys you know the one one buy two get one free!

slugger says...
6:02pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy reconds lack of investment ouch another defeat the headless chickens are swooping.Panic buys you know the one one buy two get one free!
liquid gold ?

laffaminute says...
6:10pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
george chivers wrote: As one who constantly complains about our lack of signings (I am happy with the ones we have made so far, but think we need another 4). I do however, have some sympathy with our management team when I see Wolves turning down £12M for Steven Fletcher and hanging out for £15M. What a joke £15M for a one in three striker who has played in two relegation teams. And if Wolves get their £15M that will be a gross profit of £8M which will be a net profit £6.8M after Burnley take their 15% of the profits. Not a huge return and then they have to replace him in a short times scale with all the selling teams knowing what they have to spend. So it is difficult out there to sign players at the right prices and wages. I appreciate that. But, I do worry about our first 6 games and what it will do to the players confidence if we come out of it with say only 6 points or possibly worse. And yes I know it could be 10/12 but the odds against that are quite high I think. And there is another thing of course. I can't stand losing! And I don't subscribe to the idea that going down again will be O.K. because we will still be within the 5 year plan. I think we need to maximise the opportunity we have now. Not throw it away and return to the Championship where the 5 year plan could turn into a 7 year plan. So I am sympathetic. But I still want a CB, LB, RM and a striker now! Then perhaps we can get 10/12 points out of the first 6 games and head for a mid table position early on.
10/12 points out of the first 6 games,and then head for a mid table position early doors-were you at rourkes drift ?????(dodgy spelling) George- aim for 4 points from the first four then we will be as happy as a skunt on the dole.Why worry about players confidence? thats NA,s job and he very good at that ,by the way-in fact the best Ive seen.Not about worrying ,but giving confidence.. Stop bricking worrying-back the boys to the hilt-you might be surprised or even bricking shocked.. Nigel Adkins-the south coast,s Shankley-and by the way he was the best manager of all time bar none. Something to aspire to.
NA and Shankley- i can see they are almost the same, incredible.

magnette says...
6:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

In the last 10 seasons, in the EPL. Saints have beaten M City more times than they have they have beaten Saints. So it's obvious where to put your money!

likewatchingbrazil says...
6:17pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
tugboat wrote:
george chivers wrote: As one who constantly complains about our lack of signings (I am happy with the ones we have made so far, but think we need another 4). I do however, have some sympathy with our management team when I see Wolves turning down £12M for Steven Fletcher and hanging out for £15M. What a joke £15M for a one in three striker who has played in two relegation teams. And if Wolves get their £15M that will be a gross profit of £8M which will be a net profit £6.8M after Burnley take their 15% of the profits. Not a huge return and then they have to replace him in a short times scale with all the selling teams knowing what they have to spend. So it is difficult out there to sign players at the right prices and wages. I appreciate that. But, I do worry about our first 6 games and what it will do to the players confidence if we come out of it with say only 6 points or possibly worse. And yes I know it could be 10/12 but the odds against that are quite high I think. And there is another thing of course. I can't stand losing! And I don't subscribe to the idea that going down again will be O.K. because we will still be within the 5 year plan. I think we need to maximise the opportunity we have now. Not throw it away and return to the Championship where the 5 year plan could turn into a 7 year plan. So I am sympathetic. But I still want a CB, LB, RM and a striker now! Then perhaps we can get 10/12 points out of the first 6 games and head for a mid table position early on.
10/12 points out of the first 6 games,and then head for a mid table position early doors-were you at rourkes drift ?????(dodgy spelling) George- aim for 4 points from the first four then we will be as happy as a skunt on the dole.Why worry about players confidence? thats NA,s job and he very good at that ,by the way-in fact the best Ive seen.Not about worrying ,but giving confidence.. Stop bricking worrying-back the boys to the hilt-you might be surprised or even bricking shocked.. Nigel Adkins-the south coast,s Shankley-and by the way he was the best manager of all time bar none. Something to aspire to.
NA and Shankley- i can see they are almost the same, incredible.
time to get back on your sister fish boy.
e i e i e i o off to europe we will go
e i e i e i o off to plymouth you must go
coyr wtfiln”

puppy saint says...
6:19pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.
50 or 60 thousand ? if you extend the ground it will be packed to the rafters every week.
How's Plymouth?

Wozzie says...
6:23pm Tue 14 Aug 12

http://www.ftbpro.co
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So to all of those who do not want to live within NC's strict financial rules. Understand the consequences!

long memory says...
6:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.
Spot on.

likewatchingbrazil says...
6:33pm Tue 14 Aug 12

i phoned william hill for a price on a bet which is Saints to be playing in Europe next season = evens
and poopey to go down to league 2 = 1000-1, i said thats good odds especially as they are starting from -10
they said they are confident they will be disolved by then. so i won't bother.
coyr foadp

george chivers says...
6:34pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tugboat wrote:
george chivers wrote:
As one who constantly complains about our lack of signings (I am happy with the ones we have made so far, but think we need another 4). I do however, have some sympathy with our management team when I see Wolves turning down £12M for Steven Fletcher and hanging out for £15M. What a joke £15M for a one in three striker who has played in two relegation teams.

And if Wolves get their £15M that will be a gross profit of £8M which will be a net profit £6.8M after Burnley take their 15% of the profits. Not a huge return and then they have to replace him in a short times scale with all the selling teams knowing what they have to spend. So it is difficult out there to sign players at the right prices and wages. I appreciate that.

But, I do worry about our first 6 games and what it will do to the players confidence if we come out of it with say only 6 points or possibly worse. And yes I know it could be 10/12 but the odds against that are quite high I think.

And there is another thing of course. I can't stand losing!

And I don't subscribe to the idea that going down again will be O.K. because we will still be within the 5 year plan. I think we need to maximise the opportunity we have now. Not throw it away and return to the Championship where the 5 year plan could turn into a 7 year plan.

So I am sympathetic. But I still want a CB, LB, RM and a striker now! Then perhaps we can get 10/12 points out of the first 6 games and head for a mid table position early on.
10/12 points out of the first 6 games,and then head for a mid table position early doors-were you at rourkes drift ?????(dodgy spelling) George- aim for 4 points from the first four then we will be as happy as a skunt on the dole.Why worry about players confidence? thats NA,s job and he very good at that ,by the way-in fact the best Ive seen.Not about worrying ,but giving confidence..
Stop bricking worrying-back the boys to the hilt-you might be surprised or even bricking shocked..
Nigel Adkins-the south coast,s Shankley-and by the way he was the best manager of all time bar none.
Something to aspire to.
Yes I was at Rorke's Drift. Never saw Shankley though, was he wearing a red uniform or carrying a spear?

ctsaint says...
6:41pm Tue 14 Aug 12

laffaminute wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
5-0 ? you are the optomist of the day, but i thought you were playing sunday
montecristo are you the skates ex finance director ? There is a long term plan in place with significant investment in the right facilities and the right balanced squad of young players who if given time will develop over 3-4 years. This may lead to relegation year 1 but builds a foundation and is sustainable. What you suggest carrys significantly higher risk with reward not being any more certain. They have a plan , they will execute on it, they have done thus far. That's why I for one do trust them.

slugger says...
6:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

i does seem obvious (to me anyway) that the most sensible posts are written after people get home from work , could there be a link ?

LoyalSaint says...
6:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
If you keep your head,when all about are losing theirs,if you can wait and not be tired by waiting, you'll turn into a true Saints fan my son.
well put long memory, shame too many have short memories at the moment!!!!

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...
6:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

2009; Administration, relegation to League 1 & a 10 point deduction.

2010; 7th in League 1 & JPT winners.

2011; Promotion to the Championship.

2012; Promotion to the Premier League.

..... & STILL the whingers, doom mongers & I-know-best-armchair
-managers aren't happy & could do a better job than NC & NA. The mind boggles FFS!

Support Saints, get behind them think about where we've come from, the investment in our infrastructure & the great plans & vision for the future that NC has spoken of on several occasions.

If 2 promotions in 2 years aren't good enough then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

slugger says...
6:58pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
i does seem obvious (to me anyway) that the most sensible posts are written after people get home from work , could there be a link ?
*the majority of the most sensible posts

LoyalSaint says...
7:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Spudsaint wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
5-0 ? you are the optomist of the day, but i thought you were playing sunday
I do trust NC and why not? Some people have very short memories. I'm sure we have a number of signings lined up as NA keeps saying and that the £ deals will be negotiated as the deadline approaches. There will also be loan opportunities. In the meantime we play the existing defence in games that we're unlikely to win anyway. As Matt says 4pts from the first 4 games would be great. I'd tak that. We will take some beatings this season whoever we play, but we must stay united & strong as we did for the 28 consecutive seasons we were last in the top flight. When NC starts taking the Prem money out of the club like Lowe and his mob did, that's the time to kick up. COYR!
well put Spud, atleast this current regime have to put us the right direction not like the last lot fleecing us and leaving us in the proverbials, can't believe the doubters are out in force so soon (we haven't even kicked a ball in the Prem yet ffs!!!)
lets just get things underway shall we.
COYR'S!!!!!

Baddesley Bill says...
7:01pm Tue 14 Aug 12

The Daily Echo "spot the wum" competition just gets easier and easier! :O)

warrens 76 says...
7:04pm Tue 14 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0. You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now. Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah WTFILN FOADP
Dident realise you were at our game against Arsenal but well done.
Dident?
Dident he though...bless he is trying,,,,very!

ghk230473 says...
7:04pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Greeeeen army!

slugger says...
7:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

warrens 76 wrote:
long memory wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
laffaminute wrote:
lavalady wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Indeed, !!!we got beating last Saturday 4-0!!!
NA said he was happy with the team losing 4-0 against Udinese so he will be totally ecsatic with a 5-0 defeat at city.
If (and it's a big IF) we did get beat 5-0 at Man City it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. We wouldn't suck up to them like your shower of skunt tw@ts did at the shed when Arsenal beat you 5-0. You were embarrassng then and are even more of an embarrassment now. Are you on your way to Plymouth yet??......nah WTFILN FOADP
Dident realise you were at our game against Arsenal but well done.
Dident?
Dident he though...bless he is trying,,,,very!
you missed "ecsatic" ....... and this is one of the more intelligent ones !

Baddesley Bill says...
7:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
My concern is that you are a skate. You've been consistently negative about Nicola for as long as I can remember despite there being quite a lot of evidence to suggest he knows what he's doing.
This fool talks as if spending above our capabilities is not a gamble...yet he insists we gamble with the existance of our club. Skunt talk if ever I've heard it.

Baddesley Bill says...
7:28pm Tue 14 Aug 12

All doom mongers should take solice by taking a sneaky peak at the news site...it always cheers me up...and reminds me that I never ever want to find my club in their dire situation. COYR

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:35pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
i does seem obvious (to me anyway) that the most sensible posts are written after people get home from work , could there be a link ?
The worst are when the poster has been overdosing on the Sherbet!

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:39pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Rorkes Drift? The nearest we will get to that is the visit of Swansea with a bunch of mad Welshmen singing Men of Harlech as we ruffle their feathers.

slugger says...
7:41pm Tue 14 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
i does seem obvious (to me anyway) that the most sensible posts are written after people get home from work , could there be a link ?
The worst are when the poster has been overdosing on the Sherbet!
lol , guilty of that !

seventh-junction says...
7:51pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP

slugger says...
8:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?

angus mc coatup says...
8:02pm Tue 14 Aug 12

c'mon laffaminute make us laugh.give us the benefit of your wonderous repartee and your rapier like incisive musings.

slugger says...
8:06pm Tue 14 Aug 12

tad lee came on today for the under 21's in the last 20 mins against brighton and scored ..... like a new signing when 100% fit ?

Fatty x Ford Worker says...
8:07pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Wozzie wrote:
Flashin the pan wrote:
Man C 1/7 to beat Southampton 14/1. Soton 5/4 to get relegated.
Not looking good you scummers.
5/4 must be worth a good bet surely?
We have our work cut out to survive in the TOP FLIGHT!! You have your work cut out to survive!! Who the F____ is laughing now!!
Fish Finger will get Capt Birdseye Monk Fish tonight hola hola pay up ompey!

Salar says...
8:12pm Tue 14 Aug 12

LoyalSaint wrote:
long memory wrote:
montecristosaint wrote: My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
If you keep your head,when all about are losing theirs,if you can wait and not be tired by waiting, you'll turn into a true Saints fan my son.
well put long memory, shame too many have short memories at the moment!!!!
Quality, comment. Kipling "modified" too subtle for skunt mentality.

Salar says...
8:15pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy reconds lack of investment ouch another defeat the headless chickens are swooping.Panic buys you know the one one buy two get one free!
Have you been watching too many double glazing adverts?

slugger says...
8:17pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Salar wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy reconds lack of investment ouch another defeat the headless chickens are swooping.Panic buys you know the one one buy two get one free!
Have you been watching too many double glazing adverts?
too much rohypnol (sp) methinks .

seventh-junction says...
8:21pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:27pm Tue 14 Aug 12

seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?

slugger says...
8:31pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
narrows it down !

seventh-junction says...
8:35pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?

slugger says...
8:38pm Tue 14 Aug 12

seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?

seventh-junction says...
8:43pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Why yes I think they are and also the 5th best away supported team last season in the whole of the Football League......I've got it!..........nope, it's gone again

Baddesley Bill says...
8:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)

dadofmy3sons says...
8:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

It's not Poopey is it ?
sorry that isn't a question.
It's not Poopey is it.
It's a statement.

slugger says...
8:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)
deffo not ! .......... they're off the bottom of the scale ........... now who on earth could it be laffamimute ?

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Is it Portsmouth Nil?

seventh-junction says...
8:52pm Tue 14 Aug 12

No I think not. I'm pretty sure it's not skuntmouth til Chanrai either!!!

SaintMark says...
9:27pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)
deffo not ! .......... they're off the bottom of the scale ........... now who on earth could it be laffamimute ?
Would someone just tell me who it is! This is driving me crazy.. Oh yes and brighton are having a good night!!

slugger says...
9:34pm Tue 14 Aug 12

SaintMark wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)
deffo not ! .......... they're off the bottom of the scale ........... now who on earth could it be laffamimute ?
Would someone just tell me who it is! This is driving me crazy.. Oh yes and brighton are having a good night!!
forgot what he question was ..... poor old poopey and poor old brighton ....... one team in the south !

hedge end bob says...
9:37pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Turn out like that lot down the M27 , be happy then??.
I would rather stay a CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE than spend spend spend and end up with no club. If your that concerned send N.C. a cheque in the next post or leave the running of the club to him.

long memory says...
9:39pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Plymouth3 Pompey 0

WobblyCat says...
9:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Good post, got the predictable comments from some. NC and NA have done a fantastic job, no doubt, but not enough quality has been brought in for some reason. Looks like we will start against the English champions with a weaker back line than we had last year and only two keepers, one of which has very little league experience. I think it’s strange. Go on, shoot me!!

ghk230743 says...
9:46pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Hmm, hope laffayear is having a lovely time in Plymouth watching his beloved Pompey being thrashed 3-0 after 90 mins.

SaintMark says...
9:46pm Tue 14 Aug 12

It's nearly time, and I for one can't ferkrin wait!!

ghk230743 says...
9:46pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Do you think they'll manage a comeback?

Baddesley Bill says...
9:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
Plymouth3 Pompey 0
I think that is a fair reminder for everyone what overspending can lead to.

ghk230743 says...
9:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Er, no.

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:49pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Aaron Martin on the winning side at Exeter 2 1 to Palace.

hedge end bob says...
9:50pm Tue 14 Aug 12

SOME TW@TS ON HERE MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL.
SUPPORT IS WHAT WE NEED .
TW@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@T
S

Baddesley Bill says...
9:54pm Tue 14 Aug 12

hedge end bob wrote:
SOME TW@TS ON HERE MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL.
SUPPORT IS WHAT WE NEED .
TW@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@T

S
Been down the pub Bob?

ps can't agree more! COYR

slugger says...
9:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

WobblyCat wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Good post, got the predictable comments from some. NC and NA have done a fantastic job, no doubt, but not enough quality has been brought in for some reason. Looks like we will start against the English champions with a weaker back line than we had last year and only two keepers, one of which has very little league experience. I think it’s strange. Go on, shoot me!!
in my oppinion this the worst type of post we get on here ....... for mr montechristoe's eyes ........ i don't believe for a second that you go to games (at least not saints ones) , it's been my privelidge over the the last three seasons to share our resurrection with like minded fans ........ all i meet are more than happy with our progress..... which begs the question ....... where are your real loyalties ?

saintssaintssaints says...
10:03pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Adkins been quoted as saying he wanted 2 GK (1 signed), 2 CB. We also know that we went for buttner, hardings gone and Dickson can go so LB as well. Also know RM is needed, I.e went for lens/Phillips. That's 5 needed, even say 4 if we only got 1 CB in.

We signed 4 in July. If we get 4 more in during August we'll all be happy!

I'm hoping...
GK experience about £2m if we can't get butland at £6-8m.
LB - olsson. £3.5m
CB - dann £5m, Davies £3.5m or a class foreigner £6m.
RM - would love Matt Phillips £3.5m or lens £5.5m.
Total spend on these around £20m including clyne £2m, j rod £6m, Davies £1m, gazza £1m (£10m already) total £25-30m. It has to be around these figures to be competitive.

SaintMark says...
10:03pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Just look down the road at our fallen friends. 9 of there 11 were 18 or under! How can you not be happy with what's going on at our club? That could have been us!!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:05pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)
deffo not ! .......... they're off the bottom of the scale ........... now who on earth could it be laffamimute ?
Is it that team that operate on a sensible self sustaining budget so if the owners did leave for whatever reason the club wouldn't implode and have to rob charities and local businesses?

slugger says...
10:07pm Tue 14 Aug 12

SaintMark wrote:
Just look down the road at our fallen friends. 9 of there 11 were 18 or under! How can you not be happy with what's going on at our club? That could have been us!!
well said mark ....... lots of short memories on here .

slugger says...
10:09pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
slugger wrote:
seventh-junction wrote:
Can someone just remind me what football club holds the record attendance of 53,000 at the new Wembley stadium please.
I'm sure I know who it is.....I think they play in red and white and come from the decent part of Hampshire....now what's that team called again.......
WTFILN FOADP
can't quite put my finger on it ...... is it the only club worth a second thought on the south coast by chance ?
I do know they are a PREMIER league team now but broke the record as a League One side if that helps.....ooh their name's on the tip of my tongue....
Is it that team that pay their bills?
Yes I'm prettty sure they not only pay their bills but also pay their players and staff etc on time every month.
I also know they have had back to back promotions and are the biggest club on the south coast. Does that help?
thought i had it then ! ........ are they far and away the best supported team in the south ?
I assume we are not talking about a team currently 1-0 down at Plymouth then :O)
deffo not ! .......... they're off the bottom of the scale ........... now who on earth could it be laffamimute ?
Is it that team that operate on a sensible self sustaining budget so if the owners did leave for whatever reason the club wouldn't implode and have to rob charities and local businesses?
that's them ........ if only i could remember their name !!!!!!!

redsnapper says...
10:14pm Tue 14 Aug 12

This time last year the usual culprits on here, were predicting a lacklustre campaign and not enough transfers in.

Here they are again, they may be right but more likely wrong.

COYR its going to be tough but its going to be great!!!

For those who enjoy misery youknow where to go//20 miles east.

SaintMark says...
10:15pm Tue 14 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
SaintMark wrote:
Just look down the road at our fallen friends. 9 of there 11 were 18 or under! How can you not be happy with what's going on at our club? That could have been us!!
well said mark ....... lots of short memories on here .
Not been on here for a while, and reading through these posts on here I remember why.

long memory says...
10:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

We could be in luck,it appears LAFFAMINUTE (for now) is back on the News site giving pompey fans grief.

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...
10:19pm Tue 14 Aug 12

SaintMark wrote:
slugger wrote:
SaintMark wrote:
Just look down the road at our fallen friends. 9 of there 11 were 18 or under! How can you not be happy with what's going on at our club? That could have been us!!
well said mark ....... lots of short memories on here .
Not been on here for a while, and reading through these posts on here I remember why.
I'm pleased as punch to be a Saint & can't wait for the new season.

I second your opinion.

COYR!!!

St Retford says...
10:19pm Tue 14 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.
Good lad. Just one thing that I hope people can correct me on because I'm quite often a terrible f@ckwit, but I thought that FIFA's FFP rules only applied to teams that qualify for Europe? Teams that finish mid table are free to overspend to their hearts content, no? (Not that I think we should or will, obviously.)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:31pm Tue 14 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
The club will sign the right player for the right fee on the right wages when it can. It's called good financial management so we don't go bust when the fair play rules come in. Until we have 50,60 thousand attendances and millions of supporters buying merchandise all over the world we can't afford to pay high wages. It would be financial suicide. So, those like montecristo who are acting like spoiled kids need to wind your necks in. 3 years ago if I thought I'd be hearing Saints fans moaning we can't afford Kolo Toure for our first season back in the Premier League I'd be jumping for joy that we still existed. Good times ahead. We will sign someone when we sign someone, same as every club. It's not exciting being so prudent and it is frustrating but if you don't like it, go support Barcelona or Man Ure.
Good lad. Just one thing that I hope people can correct me on because I'm quite often a terrible f@ckwit, but I thought that FIFA's FFP rules only applied to teams that qualify for Europe? Teams that finish mid table are free to overspend to their hearts content, no? (Not that I think we should or will, obviously.)
That's why we are preparing for it! :)

randre says...
10:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Have you ever written a positive post?

I don't think we have played it cheap. Good signings st the right prices. I don't know if you are aware but the fair play rule comes into play as well.

Baddesley Bill says...
11:01pm Tue 14 Aug 12

randre wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Have you ever written a positive post?

I don't think we have played it cheap. Good signings st the right prices. I don't know if you are aware but the fair play rule comes into play as well.
Randre... you are wasting away the keys on your computer on this one. He doesn't wear our colours!

randre says...
11:01pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tony in Liberia wrote:
JUst because the club is owned by a rich family does not make us competing with the top clubs for international superstars; we still have to pay the wages, and with a ground holding 32000 (which will be full most weeks, laffaminute, you park-packing-I-don't

-think-pot-of-toss), we cannot generate teh income to pay wages to compete with the top 6 clubs; maybe not even the top 10. I want the club to be self-sustainin, not funded from the pockets of someone who might pull the plug any moment. So, we cannot sign anyonewe want; that's the blatant truth.

So, I trust NA & NC to know what we need, and know how to look for it. I also trust them to buy people who fit into the Saints system (playing and financial), without mucking everything up. And I trust them to do this because they've proved perfectly capable of doing it so far.

And if we dont get more than 4 points in the first 4 games, so what? The season is 38 games, and we wouldn't have expected much more than 3 points from those particular games anyway.

I keep the faith until I see reason to do otherwise, and I support the team & manager all I can during that process. I suggest we all do the same; the worst thing supporters can do is pass fear and negativity on to the players.

Listen to Red Army (and, of course, Confucious, who is a genius. Mad as a bag of monkeys, but a genius), and not the negative cr@p. Support!!!!!!
Tony, 100% correct.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:09pm Tue 14 Aug 12

I don't recall us ever having spent this much before and we are obvious trying hard to spend more! We know they want more players because they've said so. However not getting ripped off or paying wages that are out of kilter with the squad has to be a golden rule never to be broken. Breaking it becomes a habit and ends up in League 1 losing to Plymouth 3-0 with a team of kids and no prospect of improvement.

There will be players out there who like what we are doing and want to get on the bus but most will be chasing the dollar.

St Retford says...
11:21pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I don't recall us ever having spent this much before and we are obvious trying hard to spend more! We know they want more players because they've said so. However not getting ripped off or paying wages that are out of kilter with the squad has to be a golden rule never to be broken. Breaking it becomes a habit and ends up in League 1 losing to Plymouth 3-0 with a team of kids and no prospect of improvement.

There will be players out there who like what we are doing and want to get on the bus but most will be chasing the dollar.
Precisely. The players we sign will be smart players who care about their long prospects.

Baddesley Bill says...
11:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I don't recall us ever having spent this much before and we are obvious trying hard to spend more! We know they want more players because they've said so. However not getting ripped off or paying wages that are out of kilter with the squad has to be a golden rule never to be broken. Breaking it becomes a habit and ends up in League 1 losing to Plymouth 3-0 with a team of kids and no prospect of improvement.

There will be players out there who like what we are doing and want to get on the bus but most will be chasing the dollar.
Spot on Seed....this is a slow build..we all want immediate success, but I think the "all in" gamble is too high stakes. For me, the benchmark is QPR...finish above them and the frugal financial policy is proven.

St Retford says...
11:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

*term*

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:32pm Tue 14 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
*term*
Indeed. Also they have to fit in with the very happy and highly motivated dressing room we have. We all see some very highly skilled players that despite their skill are too damaging and not team players.

Egomaniac says...
11:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.

Strasbourg Saint says...
12:11am Wed 15 Aug 12

Finally catching up on things on here.

For those scratching their heads trying to remember which team had the biggest support at Wembley, let me help you; this team plays on the South coast and the name doesn't contain the word 'mouth'.

As for the topic, some good points made by the usual people (including Tony in Liberia, Tugboat, Alices Dad, Spud and - a bit new to me - Murray Mint and New Forest) but I think Retford summed it up early on, what we 'literally' need is for the Echo to unearth an ex-Saint (ideally one we've all long forgotten - who was that tiny left back that Dave Jones brought with him from Stockport?) who can suggest something utterly, utterly wummongous, like, 'Nige should sell a few of his senior players so that more of the youngsters get a game or two'. Until such time, these ex-Saints' views are a wee bit repetative and predictable. The most important point in Matt's interview is the very last sentence.

Still, it's a good night to be a Janner! Safe drive home Laff-a-mo, you wouldn't want to get done for speeding during that long haul home ...... from your local.

Dave Juson says...
12:14am Wed 15 Aug 12

Many of the comments above read uncannily like opinions being posted this time last year when, it seems to me, all the same football geniuses currently casting doubts on Saints’ ability to survive in the Premiership were casting doubts on their ability to survive in the Championship. Wimps!

Tirau Dan says...
1:48am Wed 15 Aug 12

towards the end of the window the media always print ex player's opinions to stir things up with the readers.. everyone wants a few more in the first team squad, Nigel Adkins has said it enough times. Fact is read about the window anywhere and you find all the managers saying this is a ridiculous window as the agents are all asking stupid prices.

If we get some quality in great if we don't we'll make do. Do we want to spend silly money on egos just to fulfil the wet dreams of impatient fans.. NO

Leave it to Nigel Adkins and Don Nicola Cortese.. SFC is doing great, the right way.

Together we are Southampton.
Up the Saints - Onward to Europe

hedge end bob says...
2:26am Wed 15 Aug 12

Hi Dan, why is it that someone as far away as you , can see what our club is trying to do yet people right here cant see what is stuck right under their nose??.
Like some are saying we had the same comments at the start of last season and we were in the TOP TWO all season. Dont get me wrong , i dont expect to be in the same position this season but, i cant understand why saints fans are shouting relegation..sack the manager before a ball has been kicked. We hav'nt won all our games pre season but i feel nigel learnt more from the 4..0 defeat than he did with the 2..0 win over wolves.
We all know were we need new players but we dont know what efforts the club are making behind the closed doors. The players that are on some peoples wish list just might not fancy living in our lovely part of England. Because of this they start shouting we lack ambition. Back to back promotions and we lack ambitions?? says it all in my book.
The club is being run within our means which is the only way forward . Wonder what they would be writting in three years time if we were back in administration??. Something along the lines of ...i told you so..
Keep up the good support from oversea's as it is valued by us over here. C O Y R.

Tirau Dan says...
4:06am Wed 15 Aug 12

Bob I think it is just the time of year and a bit of pre-season rattling.. We can't afford 20 million pound plus players that have phenominal first touch speed power but Nigel has proven he can do very well my lifting workmen into artisans... Had my heart stent and now looking forward to an excellent season of reports from yourself and all the gang.. even the ones we don't all agree with.. everyone contributes... cheers Bob

WobblyCat says...
7:08am Wed 15 Aug 12

slugger wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Good post, got the predictable comments from some. NC and NA have done a fantastic job, no doubt, but not enough quality has been brought in for some reason. Looks like we will start against the English champions with a weaker back line than we had last year and only two keepers, one of which has very little league experience. I think it’s strange. Go on, shoot me!!
in my oppinion this the worst type of post we get on here ....... for mr montechristoe's eyes ........ i don't believe for a second that you go to games (at least not saints ones) , it's been my privelidge over the the last three seasons to share our resurrection with like minded fans ........ all i meet are more than happy with our progress..... which begs the question ....... where are your real loyalties ?
Yes let's talk about bad posts. I don't agree with you slugger so I'm not loyal to Saints. Yes let's talk about bad posts. Your implication does tend to fly in the face of what I’ve been doing with a lot of my spare time and money for the past 30 years though. I would like to just clarify what type of moron I am, I wasn’t on here bleating in the past 2 seasons because we lost 2 games on the trot or we hadn’t spent enough money. The problem with you and ‘like minded’ fans is that we often can’t agree to disagree so outsiders like me who aren’t loyal can’t question anything without comments like ‘when were you a premier league manager’ or your own assertion that MC Saint has never been to a Saints game becuse your views differ. I’m not questioning why we haven’t spent 30 million I am just raising the point as to why we haven’t strengthened the back line. Fonte and Jos deserve a shot at the PL (though I doubt that will be the pairing at the end of the season) but if one gets injured at the moment we have Dan or a nipper stepping in. An experienced centre half on a free would have done me for now., I think we could have been a bit better prepared for Man City. If we beat them I will be f...ing ecstatic but I still think we need more quality. You may not agree Slugger but I will respect your opinion as you are entitled to it and because you are a long time, popular poster and also because you’re not normally so utterly beastly to me!

Mush On The Beach says...
7:20am Wed 15 Aug 12

WobblyCat wrote:
slugger wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Good post, got the predictable comments from some. NC and NA have done a fantastic job, no doubt, but not enough quality has been brought in for some reason. Looks like we will start against the English champions with a weaker back line than we had last year and only two keepers, one of which has very little league experience. I think it’s strange. Go on, shoot me!!
in my oppinion this the worst type of post we get on here ....... for mr montechristoe's eyes ........ i don't believe for a second that you go to games (at least not saints ones) , it's been my privelidge over the the last three seasons to share our resurrection with like minded fans ........ all i meet are more than happy with our progress..... which begs the question ....... where are your real loyalties ?
Yes let's talk about bad posts. I don't agree with you slugger so I'm not loyal to Saints. Yes let's talk about bad posts. Your implication does tend to fly in the face of what I’ve been doing with a lot of my spare time and money for the past 30 years though. I would like to just clarify what type of moron I am, I wasn’t on here bleating in the past 2 seasons because we lost 2 games on the trot or we hadn’t spent enough money. The problem with you and ‘like minded’ fans is that we often can’t agree to disagree so outsiders like me who aren’t loyal can’t question anything without comments like ‘when were you a premier league manager’ or your own assertion that MC Saint has never been to a Saints game becuse your views differ. I’m not questioning why we haven’t spent 30 million I am just raising the point as to why we haven’t strengthened the back line. Fonte and Jos deserve a shot at the PL (though I doubt that will be the pairing at the end of the season) but if one gets injured at the moment we have Dan or a nipper stepping in. An experienced centre half on a free would have done me for now., I think we could have been a bit better prepared for Man City. If we beat them I will be f...ing ecstatic but I still think we need more quality. You may not agree Slugger but I will respect your opinion as you are entitled to it and because you are a long time, popular poster and also because you’re not normally so utterly beastly to me!
I love the smell of a good rant in the morning (afternoon for me), nice one wobblyCat.

george chivers says...
7:49am Wed 15 Aug 12

Wigan aren't a rich club. Just survived with revived boost in form. There star man has gone to Fulham on a free.

Have a look on the BBC at the players they have signed. Including a CB Ramis who we were associated with.

I'm with Wobbly Cat and a few others. I understand the economic constraints we have, but this is the Premier League. And as for the defensive attitude of some who say it doesn't matter if we go back down because we are still inside the 5 year plan. Joke.

St Retford says...
8:23am Wed 15 Aug 12

Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!

saint matilda says...
8:29am Wed 15 Aug 12

Some good news from the OS:

http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/m
uch-better-says-hunt
er-312012.aspx

and see the gallery for pictures

Lee had 20 minutes off the bench and scored a goal :-) His return will be like a new signing.

george chivers says...
8:37am Wed 15 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!
Never mind MAN UP! MAN CITY and MAN U are more to the point. Get real. I don't think Nigel should go, but if we are in the bottom three in October I'm quite convinced Nicola will get rid of him and it will be more Nicola's fault than Nigel's if he does get fired. We the lack quality to do reasonably well in this league and that needs to be addressed.

long memory says...
8:53am Wed 15 Aug 12

BC has pulled out of purchasing Pompey

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:04am Wed 15 Aug 12

Channers is out. It's Trust or liquidise.

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Confucious says...
9:08am Wed 15 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
slugger wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
My concern is that we are limited as to the players we can sign by NC's insistance on a strict pay policy. We simply are not competing with the top half dozen clubs in the transfer market and if the club is indeed amongst the richest then that is just not tenable and shows a lack of realism not to say ambition. Saints are not a bank and while it is great running a tight ship trying to recruit bargains is not viable and is gambling with the club's future. What really takes the biscuit is this extraordinary lack of understanding some diehard fans have whose one and only slogan is in NC and NA we trust. its folly and some need to realise these people do not walk on water and are I think making serious mistakes.which will cost the club dearly.No good moaning if we cop a five nil beating on Saturday it will be too late to put things right.
Good post, got the predictable comments from some. NC and NA have done a fantastic job, no doubt, but not enough quality has been brought in for some reason. Looks like we will start against the English champions with a weaker back line than we had last year and only two keepers, one of which has very little league experience. I think it’s strange. Go on, shoot me!!
in my oppinion this the worst type of post we get on here ....... for mr montechristoe's eyes ........ i don't believe for a second that you go to games (at least not saints ones) , it's been my privelidge over the the last three seasons to share our resurrection with like minded fans ........ all i meet are more than happy with our progress..... which begs the question ....... where are your real loyalties ?
Yes let's talk about bad posts. I don't agree with you slugger so I'm not loyal to Saints. Yes let's talk about bad posts. Your implication does tend to fly in the face of what I’ve been doing with a lot of my spare time and money for the past 30 years though. I would like to just clarify what type of moron I am, I wasn’t on here bleating in the past 2 seasons because we lost 2 games on the trot or we hadn’t spent enough money. The problem with you and ‘like minded’ fans is that we often can’t agree to disagree so outsiders like me who aren’t loyal can’t question anything without comments like ‘when were you a premier league manager’ or your own assertion that MC Saint has never been to a Saints game becuse your views differ. I’m not questioning why we haven’t spent 30 million I am just raising the point as to why we haven’t strengthened the back line. Fonte and Jos deserve a shot at the PL (though I doubt that will be the pairing at the end of the season) but if one gets injured at the moment we have Dan or a nipper stepping in. An experienced centre half on a free would have done me for now., I think we could have been a bit better prepared for Man City. If we beat them I will be f...ing ecstatic but I still think we need more quality. You may not agree Slugger but I will respect your opinion as you are entitled to it and because you are a long time, popular poster and also because you’re not normally so utterly beastly to me!
I love the smell of a good rant in the morning (afternoon for me), nice one wobblyCat.
e too. I was going to write a long rant myself, but I suffer from attention deficit dis

Santo Levante says...
9:11am Wed 15 Aug 12

long memory wrote:
BC has pulled out of purchasing Pompey
Chainrai appears to have hammered the final nail into the ropey old fibreboard
coffin. Bye bye Poopey. No, you will not be sadly missed!

Saintsayer II says...
9:16am Wed 15 Aug 12

george chivers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!
Never mind MAN UP! MAN CITY and MAN U are more to the point. Get real. I don't think Nigel should go, but if we are in the bottom three in October I'm quite convinced Nicola will get rid of him and it will be more Nicola's fault than Nigel's if he does get fired. We the lack quality to do reasonably well in this league and that needs to be addressed.
George I am amazed at you and others regular fans and season ticket holders If you are so convinced that we are doomed to fail why do you bother attending Surely a charitable donation equal to the cost of a ticket would be more beneficial and may help to-wards your salvation
I don't have blind faith in anyone in this sport but I do believe that we will be sufficiently well set up to survive this year and year on year we will improve our PL status

Mush On The Beach says...
9:16am Wed 15 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Channers is out. It's Trust or liquidise.

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Laffaminute

St Retford says...
9:34am Wed 15 Aug 12

george chivers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!
Never mind MAN UP! MAN CITY and MAN U are more to the point. Get real. I don't think Nigel should go, but if we are in the bottom three in October I'm quite convinced Nicola will get rid of him and it will be more Nicola's fault than Nigel's if he does get fired. We the lack quality to do reasonably well in this league and that needs to be addressed.
Seriously, you doubters need to grow a pair and have a bit of belief. It's faith that builds the soul, and without soul you can't be a saint.

long memory says...
10:26am Wed 15 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Channers is out. It's Trust or liquidise.

Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Skunts
Laffaminute
As I have said before,IMO LAFFAMINUTE is a wind-up merchant,who supports neither Saints or Pompey.He is only seeking attention and a reaction,unfortunate
ly he achieves his aim from both sets of supporters.

george chivers says...
11:31am Wed 15 Aug 12

Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!
Never mind MAN UP! MAN CITY and MAN U are more to the point. Get real. I don't think Nigel should go, but if we are in the bottom three in October I'm quite convinced Nicola will get rid of him and it will be more Nicola's fault than Nigel's if he does get fired. We the lack quality to do reasonably well in this league and that needs to be addressed.
George I am amazed at you and others regular fans and season ticket holders If you are so convinced that we are doomed to fail why do you bother attending Surely a charitable donation equal to the cost of a ticket would be more beneficial and may help to-wards your salvation
I don't have blind faith in anyone in this sport but I do believe that we will be sufficiently well set up to survive this year and year on year we will improve our PL status
I didn't say we are doomed to fail. What I am saying is, because we don't currently have enough quality players on board we will get off to a poor start unless that problem is addressed quickly.

If that does happen, and I hope it doesn't, I think Nigel will be in danger of losing his job come October.

I am 100% behind the team and the manager but I think our current squad (without any additions in key positions) will struggle to keep out of the relegation battle.

And I don't think comments like MAN UP! and grow a pair (St Retford) will help us get many points in the P.L.

At the end of the day good football teams are made out of good players. I don't believe we have enough good players at the present time to keep us out of the relegation battle.

In the Championship that was never the case, we were always going to be in the top half of the league. At the moment we have a bottom 6 team in terms of the P.L. and I think we will struggle until the squad is improved in key positions.

angus mc coatup says...
12:27pm Wed 15 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
george chivers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
montecristosaint is simply echoing my comments yesterday from which I got stick - again.

Well said monte - totally agree with your comments.

Our current squad is a very good Championship side, but Premiership? Don't think so. We will be slaughtered at Man City.

Nigel was the right man to get us to the top flight, but I still do not think he's the right man for us to compete at Premiership level. Believe me, I do not get any pleasure from saying that, and I still hope I am wrong. - but I don't think so.

If I am proved wrong, I will happily concede that.

We shall see.
MAN UP!
Never mind MAN UP! MAN CITY and MAN U are more to the point. Get real. I don't think Nigel should go, but if we are in the bottom three in October I'm quite convinced Nicola will get rid of him and it will be more Nicola's fault than Nigel's if he does get fired. We the lack quality to do reasonably well in this league and that needs to be addressed.
Seriously, you doubters need to grow a pair and have a bit of belief. It's faith that builds the soul, and without soul you can't be a saint.
talking about aresouls
wheres laffaminute

sarfhamton says...
3:42pm Wed 15 Aug 12

truelysaints wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
What is worse spending like Pompey and Leeds, then going bust again or taking it steady and building over the next few seasons even if that means a struggle?

In Adkins we trust, as for the legends.............



thanks for the memories now go back to the golf course and mind your own!
So why is it your opinion matters but not that of a well respected and informed ex pro, I know who I would rather listen too and you it aint
Glad you are not managing Saints. Building up over the next few seasons, you say. If in the premier we stay whilst build up we do.Good players much we need, not future but present need we.
I think its worth the risk of going down and build long term.

I am glad i am not managing Saints, in Adkins we Trust.

PS i think we will see 2-3 top signings including a CB in the next week or so, don't panic and support the saints.

RBLA says...
9:57pm Wed 15 Aug 12

I'm stunned at quite how little some of out True Saints Fan's !! understand or have faith ............ I'm a true plastic fan , only been watching the last 2 years (30 years of Rugby) , how can you doubt what NC is trying to do , Like Arsenal build a Prem club that can afford to exsist , while many around them dig a hole so deep that the very existence of the club is threatened ........ hmmm drive 20 miles up the road ! It may take a few years and I'm sure it will be tougth but the true fans will get behind them and not be on hear behaving like spoiled children ! Maybe I'm less plastic than some of these supposed true fans. Can't wait for the season !

And yes, I fear what will happen against City and that we haven't yet signed a CB but I think we will all be surprised !! But it will be done to a managed wage policy , remember no support for NC by the Family and we are back from where we came from .......

COYR (with thin lill strips)

The only saint in COV says...
12:54pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Le tiss is right we need a centre back.why not take a look at danish CB Simon Kjaer and a more improved offer for Dann would give saints a chance of staying up this season

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