Saints 'agree deal' for Ramirez (From Daily Echo)

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

Rising_Son wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

But Ramirez isn't a striker. Berk.

Rising_Son wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

But Ramirez isn't a striker. Berk.

Saint Chris wrote:
Until its on the saints website, IT'S ALL A LIE. Not going to listen or allow myself to get excited about this, don't want to be disappointed.

Although if I'm right in thinking '14m euros' is less than the report a week ago saying £12m. That's around 11m euros. Hmmm.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
What's going on? Seems everyone's so excited, you're all posting thrice.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Saint Chris wrote:
Until its on the saints website, IT'S ALL A LIE. Not going to listen or allow myself to get excited about this, don't want to be disappointed.

Although if I'm right in thinking '14m euros' is less than the report a week ago saying £12m. That's around 11m euros. Hmmm.

Talking of the official website (which, like you, I'm keeping an eye on before jumping up and down), I love the way that we're alphabetically above VILLA, rather than, as on other sites, below ASTON VILLA.

magnette wrote:
Saints after Ajax LB Boilesen

Saintjock wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

Ricky's not going anywhere. Now get those defenders in quick.

Saintjock wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

Ricky's not going anywhere. Now get those defenders in quick.

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Coming to the end of the window. Agents start to get twitchy because they can see a pay day slipping away !
Lot more business to follow.
Only my opinion, but I am a STH or is that an STH ?
I know absolutely naff all about all, no inside info from me,but I do intend going to every game because I do have a ticket.
Please do not let Lambert go, I do not see any advantage at all.
But if that is the NC/NA decision, so be it! I still trust.

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

JohnItaly wrote:
It's on Sky "transfer clockwatch". Must be true!

JohnItaly wrote:
It's on Sky "transfer clockwatch". Must be true!

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
there is a cb coming from barca

tomf05 wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
there is a cb coming from barca

??

Confucious wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
It's on Sky "transfer clockwatch". Must be true!

Don't believe it until confirmed ie you see it twice.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

tomf05 wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
there is a cb coming from barca

??

no name yet

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

tomf05 wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
there is a cb coming from barca

??

no name yet

Andreu Fontàs. Plays regularly for Barca's B team. 8 times for the 1st team.
A defensive midfielder, now playing at CB

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

tomf05 wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
there is a cb coming from barca

??

no name yet

Andreu Fontàs. Plays regularly for Barca's B team. 8 times for the 1st team.
A defensive midfielder, now playing at CB

saintsupnorth wrote:
Nicolai Boilesen from Ajax Left Back for 5M deal to go through shortly, although it has been stated Newcastle looking to put in a bid to stop it from going through.

JohnItaly wrote:

saintsupnorth wrote:
Nicolai Boilesen from Ajax Left Back for 5M deal to go through shortly, although it has been stated Newcastle looking to put in a bid to stop it from going through.

Sky are also reporting interest from AC Milan & Arsenal. If this is the case think we will be a little down the pecking order.

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:
Of all the CB's we've been linked with, I think the best 1 so far is the guy from Montpellier, Mapou Yanga-M'Biwa. From what I have seen of him, would be an excellent signing. CB but comfortable anywhere along the back line. 23yrs and captain of Montpellier already.
Think he maybe going to AC Milan though

mack chinnon wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

I hope you havent got a smart phone.

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Hopefully this will be the start of some transfer activity.

Gaston Ramirez
Nicolai Boilesen (Ajax LB)
Maya Yoshida (VVV Venlo CB)
Martin Olsson (Blackburn LB)

All these players have been rumoured or linked with Saints.

If we signed all four I think we would have a pretty good squad.

(ps if not Yoshida then a different CB or 2 will sign)

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Saint Chris wrote:
Until its on the saints website, IT'S ALL A LIE. Not going to listen or allow myself to get excited about this, don't want to be disappointed.

Although if I'm right in thinking '14m euros' is less than the report a week ago saying £12m. That's around 11m euros. Hmmm.

Talking of the official website (which, like you, I'm keeping an eye on before jumping up and down), I love the way that we're alphabetically above VILLA, rather than, as on other sites, below ASTON VILLA.

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

Saintsayer II wrote:

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

I can tell from your comments that you are obviously a very highly qualified soccer coach Are you wanting Adkins out so that you can apply for his post?

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

bigfella777 wrote:
Now they can play 3-3-1-3 with Guly in a hole somewhere hopefully.

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Kamawoop wrote:
I've heard Dave Merrington on the radio (his gem against Man C. at 2-1, was along the lines of 'if we don't concede I reckon we've got a chance of getting a decent result'), so I'm qualified to give an opinion.

I don't much like this new-fangled 4-51 either.

Confucious wrote:

Kamawoop wrote:
I've heard Dave Merrington on the radio (his gem against Man C. at 2-1, was along the lines of 'if we don't concede I reckon we've got a chance of getting a decent result'), so I'm qualified to give an opinion.

I don't much like this new-fangled 4-51 either.

Rivals "The manager has a fresh pair of legs up his sleeve"

I think 4-5-1 is known as the peppermint tactic.

No, sorry, I was thinking of tictac.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

saintshorse101 wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

so you think a manager who has obvious integrity ( not leaving scunny untill they had been given proper compensation) would allow an exec chair to pressure him into picking a particular player in the team? my god what have you guly haters come to. NA and others look past what can be seen as laziness and see a player who can play in different positions and has a great pass completion percentage! and also scores goals.
i remember another player who played like that, and he is treated like a god. now i am not saying that guly is as good as le tiss but christ give the bloke a break and get off of his back. if he fails to deliver (and i dont think he has very often) then moan, we are 2 games into a long season and guly has played well in both games and some either cant or dont want to see it!
if you can tell me where he has played poorly in the last 2 games.

Kamawoop wrote:
Thought for the day; if you could only punch one person in the face, who it be? Alan Green, or Adrian Durham?

westfordUSAsaints wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Just remember where we have come from in two seasons! We got to the PL too quickly IMHO, and probably needed another season in the Championship to keep building and adding to the squad, but here we are, with basically a L1 team in the PL. Yes, I know, Norwich! But they are going to struggle this season, you watch.

Nige is a very good manager, but he needs time to ply his trade against the very best in the world. He will come good, zero doubt there and has to work with the squad he's got and get the best out of them.

NC is a solid businessman, he is not like the hacks we had running things before we went tits up, he knows EXACTLY how to put a deal together and manage the operating budget he has set out for the company, remember, we are a business now, and being run as such.

I trust both of them know exactly what they are doing and are trying whatever they can, with the squad they have, within the budgets they have set, to keep this club in the PL.

D4n1el wrote:
Totally different story here...

http://www.metro.co.

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westfordUSAsaints wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Just remember where we have come from in two seasons! We got to the PL too quickly IMHO, and probably needed another season in the Championship to keep building and adding to the squad, but here we are, with basically a L1 team in the PL. Yes, I know, Norwich! But they are going to struggle this season, you watch.

Nige is a very good manager, but he needs time to ply his trade against the very best in the world. He will come good, zero doubt there and has to work with the squad he's got and get the best out of them.

NC is a solid businessman, he is not like the hacks we had running things before we went tits up, he knows EXACTLY how to put a deal together and manage the operating budget he has set out for the company, remember, we are a business now, and being run as such.

I trust both of them know exactly what they are doing and are trying whatever they can, with the squad they have, within the budgets they have set, to keep this club in the PL.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

florida saint wrote:
yawn yawn ramerez is coming, what the sfcuk we playing at, does he play cb.cant believe we have started the season weaker at cb than we finished in c,ship.come on saints put me out of my misery step up to the plate and sign a quality cb. u t s

Confucious wrote:

westfordUSAsaints wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Just remember where we have come from in two seasons! We got to the PL too quickly IMHO, and probably needed another season in the Championship to keep building and adding to the squad, but here we are, with basically a L1 team in the PL. Yes, I know, Norwich! But they are going to struggle this season, you watch.

Nige is a very good manager, but he needs time to ply his trade against the very best in the world. He will come good, zero doubt there and has to work with the squad he's got and get the best out of them.

NC is a solid businessman, he is not like the hacks we had running things before we went tits up, he knows EXACTLY how to put a deal together and manage the operating budget he has set out for the company, remember, we are a business now, and being run as such.

I trust both of them know exactly what they are doing and are trying whatever they can, with the squad they have, within the budgets they have set, to keep this club in the PL.

Okay Stras, so the club was saved from oblivion, put on an enviable debt-free financial footing and taken from Div 1 to the Prem in two years. But neither Nicola or Nige have yet made a single blind man see; parted the Solent so the IOW fans can walk home or even turned a stale slice of Hovis into 30,000 free pasties. So - they're still on probation mate.

Velleity wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Stras, where do you get your pass completion statistics from?

As a committed statistics nerd, I need stuff like this to keep me happy.

Velleity wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time.

I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split.

I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running.

I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Stras, where do you get your pass completion statistics from?

As a committed statistics nerd, I need stuff like this to keep me happy.

Confucious wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

so you think a manager who has obvious integrity ( not leaving scunny untill they had been given proper compensation) would allow an exec chair to pressure him into picking a particular player in the team? my god what have you guly haters come to. NA and others look past what can be seen as laziness and see a player who can play in different positions and has a great pass completion percentage! and also scores goals. i remember another player who played like that, and he is treated like a god. now i am not saying that guly is as good as le tiss but christ give the bloke a break and get off of his back. if he fails to deliver (and i dont think he has very often) then moan, we are 2 games into a long season and guly has played well in both games and some either cant or dont want to see it! if you can tell me where he has played poorly in the last 2 games.

Wasting your time I'm afraid. The downers on Guly won't change even if next Sunday Guly sells such good dummies to Vidic, MCarrick and Cleverly that they all have to pay to get back in.

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint says...
Velleity wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
toutlaw wrote:

Somebody quoted a pass completion rate of 93% for Guly. I don't know where they got it from.

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint says...
Velleity wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
toutlaw wrote:

Somebody quoted a pass completion rate of 93% for Guly. I don't know where they got it from.

http://sfcplayerstat

s.wordpress.com/

Take a look for yourself

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Please can you supply the stats on this one? When it comes to Guly, I think you'll find it tends to be about a 50-50 split. I wouldn't start Guly as much as NA does but it's unbelievable how quickly he gets criticised after a bad result while other players seem beyond any kind of criticism. Maybe the 'any other explanation' that you can't see is that NA has noticed something in his 93% pass-completion rate or (in both matches) his first-half endless running. I'd like to think paying this kind of money for a new player will mean he'll be good enough to hold down a first-team place quite easily (probably in place of Guly) but that's part of the continual improvement and development of the squad, not to pander to the idiot boo-boys who seem to have a go at Guly no matter how well he performs.

Stras, where do you get your pass completion statistics from? As a committed statistics nerd, I need stuff like this to keep me happy.

Try this site. http://sfcplayerstat s.wordpress.com/

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint says...
Velleity wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
toutlaw wrote:

Somebody quoted a pass completion rate of 93% for Guly. I don't know where they got it from.

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

skin2000 wrote:
I read somewhere that Saints had signed this player a week ago.

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

Why not? He might score. My main criticism of him is that he's overdue a goal, so let's ALL hope he bags one or two against Manure.

Thanks for the link to the stats everyone.

JohnItaly wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

Why not? He might score. My main criticism of him is that he's overdue a goal, so let's ALL hope he bags one or two against Manure.

Thanks for the link to the stats everyone.

With hopefully Ramirez making his debut and matching the performance of Michu (a supposed Saints target) on his debut for Swansea.

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2193985/Bl ackburn-bid-Rickie-L ambert.html This is obviously good business all round. Southampton get £4million cash to offset the £16million cost of buying Gaston PrimaDonna. Rickie gets the chance to develop his career at a bigger club, and will be able to play in the Premiership next season after enjoying a successful promotion season, instead of playing in the Championship after the long nightmare of a futile relegation struggle.

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2193985/Bl

ackburn-bid-Rickie-L

ambert.html

This is obviously good business all round. Southampton get £4million cash to offset the £16million cost of buying Gaston PrimaDonna. Rickie gets the chance to develop his career at a bigger club, and will be able to play in the Premiership next season after enjoying a successful promotion season, instead of playing in the Championship after the long nightmare of a futile relegation struggle.

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

ButtyIoWSaint wrote:

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint says...
Velleity wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
toutlaw wrote:

Somebody quoted a pass completion rate of 93% for Guly. I don't know where they got it from.

http://sfcplayerstat

s.wordpress.com/

Take a look for yourself

Gary Clark wrote:
Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

seventh-junction wrote:
WBA are the masters of "yoyoing" in and out of the PL.
They now look like they could be a well established long term PL team.
70-80m every time they got promoted and 40-45m parachute payments whilst in the Championship.
This has meant they could afford to keep most of the players when dropping to the championship and bounce straight back again.
Each time they came back up they added some quality players and now seem a decent side.
Having the PL standard ground and set up etc obviously helped and getting millions of pounds for about five or six years has helped them to do "very nicely thank you"
If we were to go down (which I don't think we will) it wouldn't be the end of the world and the finances would be in place to do a "Baggies" and return to the PL the next season.
Other teams such as the skunt fishf@ckers don't have the luxury of a PL standard stadium, Academy, Training Facilities, Large Fan Base, Large Attendances and players that other clubs would want to pay millions of pounds for, so we would be in a very good position no matter what happens.
Having said all that we now look set to complete some very good signings this week and have Tadanari Lee close to fitness. We are only two games into the season and will start to surprise a few teams I'm sure.
If we can get a mid table position by Christmas I'll be confident we will recruit again in January and do well.
I'm just so glad we can call our Stadium, training ground, academy and players ours.......unlike the cheating, begging, corrupt sh1t hole of a club at the other end of the M27
COYR...FOADP

Velleity wrote:
Look, sometimes I'm frustrated sometimes by Guly, like everyone else, as he does drop his head sometimes. However, his passes DO get to the person he aims them at, which is one of his jobs.

To listen to the people around me in the crowd yesterday, he never does anything right ever under any circumstances. Makes me wonder why NA plays him (and no, I don;t believe NC makes him!)

As I posted yesterday, I had words with someone behind me who blamed Guly for not getting to a pass that was way out of his range. He didn't blame Lambert for a poor pass, no it was Guly's fault for not having eight foot long legs.

We need to get behind the team that NA chooses, not scream for changes all through the game. That can't help in keeping Guly's head up.

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2193985/Bl ackburn-bid-Rickie-L ambert.html This is obviously good business all round. Southampton get £4million cash to offset the £16million cost of buying Gaston PrimaDonna. Rickie gets the chance to develop his career at a bigger club, and will be able to play in the Premiership next season after enjoying a successful promotion season, instead of playing in the Championship after the long nightmare of a futile relegation struggle.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Velleity wrote: Look, sometimes I'm frustrated sometimes by Guly, like everyone else, as he does drop his head sometimes. However, his passes DO get to the person he aims them at, which is one of his jobs. To listen to the people around me in the crowd yesterday, he never does anything right ever under any circumstances. Makes me wonder why NA plays him (and no, I don;t believe NC makes him!) As I posted yesterday, I had words with someone behind me who blamed Guly for not getting to a pass that was way out of his range. He didn't blame Lambert for a poor pass, no it was Guly's fault for not having eight foot long legs. We need to get behind the team that NA chooses, not scream for changes all through the game. That can't help in keeping Guly's head up.

Agreed! The one who frustrates me the most is Adam because he really does have class. However, for every great shot tipped onto the bar, there's another moment where he takes an extra touch or balloons over - just like Guly, really but without the moaners getting on his back.

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle .
So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle .
So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

SaintDon13 wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

Why?

Rising_Son wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Why do you think that "the vast majority" doesn't rate Guly? And why do you think they can't be wrong?

SaintDon13 wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

Why?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

Why not? He might score. My main criticism of him is that he's overdue a goal, so let's ALL hope he bags one or two against Manure.

Thanks for the link to the stats everyone.

With hopefully Ramirez making his debut and matching the performance of Michu (a supposed Saints target) on his debut for Swansea.

True. Have you got any inside (Italian) news over there, John?

Saintsteve7 wrote:
Interesting stat came up my twitter over the weekend- Morgan covered the most ground in the prem at the weekend, 7.3 miles in 90 mins! That's pretty good going but just goes to show how much extra work he had to do 2nd half when we switched to 4-4-2.

JohnItaly wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

toutlaw wrote:
Yeah well Guly's stats do surprise me, it doesn't make me like him though. he's just a very frustrating player to watch because he'll do something brilliantly and then immediately mess up an easy pass and im left tearing my hair out. if he scores against Man utd i will praise him, but he won't will he?
anyone for a bet?

Why not? He might score. My main criticism of him is that he's overdue a goal, so let's ALL hope he bags one or two against Manure.

Thanks for the link to the stats everyone.

With hopefully Ramirez making his debut and matching the performance of Michu (a supposed Saints target) on his debut for Swansea.

True. Have you got any inside (Italian) news over there, John?

Sorry Strasbourg Saint have no "Italian inside" information but I do strongly suspect if the deal does go through the hold-up will have been about payment term i.e. % cash, % invoiced. The Italian economy ( also known as the black-market) survives on cash. It is well known after football the popular Italian pastime is avoiding paying tax.

Electrostar wrote:
Whilst I support the emphasis on youth, I also think we need at least one Premiership experienced 'old head' on the pitch.

bluewhiteandred wrote:

SaintDon13 wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

Why?

Because you will continue to struggle with a championship side !

st1halo wrote:

Electrostar wrote:
Whilst I support the emphasis on youth, I also think we need at least one Premiership experienced 'old head' on the pitch.

Here here !

bluewhiteandred wrote:

SaintDon13 wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote: I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

Why?

Because you will continue to struggle with a championship side !

bigfella777 wrote:
Ta Ta Ricky.

SaintDon13 wrote:

Rising_Son wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:

toutlaw wrote: Hopefully this will mean Adkins won't be able to fit Guly into the team. But i'm sure he will, he always finds a way

I don't think the problem is Adkins other than to stand up to NC. If you look back at how Guly was bought it was all NC and I think there's either diect pressure or implied pressure by NC to play Guly all the time. I don't see any other explanation. The vast majority of us who watch Saints can't be wrong. Guly is not Premiershp quality neither was he Championship standard other than to be a squad player to cover injuries.

Why do you think that "the vast majority" doesn't rate Guly? And why do you think they can't be wrong?

Too many double negatives there, wasn't sure whether you are for him or against him! I suspect a few are jealous of his suntan don't you?

seasideoldgit wrote:
We wasted 7K on Rodriguez its two centre backs we desperately need have done for ages.. why put Aaron Martin out on loan. We have no cover and Fonte cannot cut it. If we do not sharpen up at he back we could break the record for least points in Prem and be relegated and have a huge pay bill with the like of Ramirez..its ridiculous

nlightn wrote:
I think it`s great we can pay this sort of money for a player after the years of turmoil. But i have to feel for the likes of Billy Sharp and Steve De Ridder, BRING THEM INTO THE FIRST TEAM Nigel they are part of how we got to the Prem Lge, I hate to see players spending their time on the bench after a great season!!

Mowyjoe wrote:

nlightn wrote:
I think it`s great we can pay this sort of money for a player after the years of turmoil. But i have to feel for the likes of Billy Sharp and Steve De Ridder, BRING THEM INTO THE FIRST TEAM Nigel they are part of how we got to the Prem Lge, I hate to see players spending their time on the bench after a great season!!

how did de ridder have a great season? did you watch our games last season? bar the Reading goal he contributed very little he could be great but he is unpredictable and selfish hence why Adkins obviously doesnt rate him, cant understand why everyone loves him so much, dont get me wrong i dont hate him i just dont think he is a team player and he doesnt fit into our style of play

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day? No wonder his performances are so bad.

SaintMark wrote:

Gary Clark wrote: Firstly our star striker Rickie Lambert is going nowhere, NA needs 2 go back to the tried and trusted 4-4-2 formation as by changing has lost all the confidence and momentum built up from last 3 seasons, or its simple Nige bye bye and find yourself another job? Simply not good enough, Lets hope Saints sign 7 or 8 top players cause we desparately need them, then wave goodbye and thank Guly, Richardson, Seabourne, Chaplow, Hammond, Puncheon, Butterfield, Lastly what a waste of money it was spending 6million on Jay Rodrigues then sticking him on left wing, we obviously payed that much for a goalscorer so please play him up top with Super Rickie Lambert and let him do what we brought him for! because he will forge a very good partnership and fire us the goals we need to win games and get some points on the board.

Why not just sign 25 players and be done with it! Plank!

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Tuesday morning no more news on ramirez on local or national news ?

St.Yorkie wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day? No wonder his performances are so bad.

Well perhaps he turned to the bottle after reading all the stick you lot give him on here!
There is no call for anyone to get behind the wheel of the car when over the limit - but what was over the limit?
The police would probably react very quickly. From third party experience they ask you to blow into the bag - and if it turns colour X - you've had a drink. If it then turns colour Y after 1-min (from memory) you are arrested.
There are no levels of innocence - but 2-pints could send you over the top - AND HOW MANY OF US ARE GUILTY OF THAT?
So let's see what happens - if border line on blood test then give the lad some slack.

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Some of the later posts on here are downright disgraceful. Call yourselves Saints fans? Show some support. Where is your back bone? Where is RedArmy? We need you. Get some of these whingers off.

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

Bigfella, you're not a Saints fan. Your life must be particularly tragic to be on another city's website making comments at 8 in the morning.

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

Bigfella, you're not a Saints fan. Your life must be particularly tragic to be on another city's website making comments at 8 in the morning.

Shut up you tool, I've lived here all my life.

one in a million wrote:
What's bridgey up to these days?

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

abbiscuits wrote:
Andreu Fontas from barca could be coming to the south coast

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Guly arrested for DD. That wont go down well with the powers that be. Still, will please many on here.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

Have you ever transgressed, maybe without even realising it? Yes, he was foolish, he was caught, he will now pay the penalty, I will wait for further developments before I go shouting my mouth off. I have never learned to drive, so am not qualified to say how I would react to alchohol in this situation, but I regard it as a serious offence, as serious as people who drive using there mobiles, it still happens with amazing regularity. I would imagine he could miss a couple of games and the Club will deal with it internally as ever.

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

Bigfella, you're not a Saints fan. Your life must be particularly tragic to be on another city's website making comments at 8 in the morning.

Shut up you tool, I've lived here all my life.

saintmicky wrote:
Most people who left the game just after the second goal went in, were probably disappointed with the refereeing decision, which was just a continuation of his lack of involvement in the game, and clearly ended our chances of a equalizer, which was on the cards. The ref let a lot of heavy challenges go and didn't really have a handle on the game, it was fortunate no one was injured. The crowd were quite nervy, and the empty seats (for whatever reason) didn't help to build the atmosphere that makes us the "12th man".

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bigfella777 wrote: Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day? No wonder his performances are so bad.

Have you ever transgressed, maybe without even realising it? Yes, he was foolish, he was caught, he will now pay the penalty, I will wait for further developments before I go shouting my mouth off. I have never learned to drive, so am not qualified to say how I would react to alchohol in this situation, but I regard it as a serious offence, as serious as people who drive using there mobiles, it still happens with amazing regularity. I would imagine he could miss a couple of games and the Club will deal with it internally as ever.

saintshorse101 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bigfella777 wrote: Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day? No wonder his performances are so bad.

Have you ever transgressed, maybe without even realising it? Yes, he was foolish, he was caught, he will now pay the penalty, I will wait for further developments before I go shouting my mouth off. I have never learned to drive, so am not qualified to say how I would react to alchohol in this situation, but I regard it as a serious offence, as serious as people who drive using there mobiles, it still happens with amazing regularity. I would imagine he could miss a couple of games and the Club will deal with it internally as ever.

now that would be a punishment, being dealt with `internally`! lol

Cheapshot wrote:

one in a million wrote:
What's bridgey up to these days?

He's at Brighton!

st1halo wrote:

Cheapshot wrote:

one in a million wrote:
What's bridgey up to these days?

He's at Brighton!

And scoring !!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

saintmicky wrote:
Most people who left the game just after the second goal went in, were probably disappointed with the refereeing decision, which was just a continuation of his lack of involvement in the game, and clearly ended our chances of a equalizer, which was on the cards. The ref let a lot of heavy challenges go and didn't really have a handle on the game, it was fortunate no one was injured. The crowd were quite nervy, and the empty seats (for whatever reason) didn't help to build the atmosphere that makes us the "12th man".

When Wigan scored the first goal you could hear a pin drop, Saints fans in shock, thinking this can't happen, the Wigan fans in shock too, we can't do this here!

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
hang em and flog em brigade out in full force this morning I see. I am sure you lot have never had a drink and driven before in your lives. If Guly did it he will pay the penalty. Leave him alone. Get off his back.

Suttonite wrote:
Hopefully the Ramirez deal will be completed.

I think the CB problem is mostly caused by Fox.He can't defend and pulls the CB's out of position all the time. Also, Fonte might not be strong enough, so we must get someone in this week at CB and LB.

We bought Rodriguez as a stirker; he has to play there and not wide on the left. My guess is that in the final line-up, he will. Saints can't afford to pay £6-7m for a player and either not play him or play him out of position. They must see him as leading the attack for the future.

Flashin the pan wrote:
If ramirez signs then beer head Prado can may be show him around a few local pubs during the early hours especially before a match. It won't make much difference to the outcome of the game..saints still lose even when they are sober.

Alicesdad wrote:
The criticism of NA/NC is way too early and completely unjustified.

Their work is just beginning in the premiership. Its a different world to the one we have known in the previous two years.

THINK !! We are spending money, we are getting good players, we are being careful and we will prevail.

Heckling for major changes at this stage is just stupid. The team tactics are being built. Let them do their job and I am certain we will be in a much stronger position as the season progresses.

It's all common sense.

bluewhiteandred wrote:

SaintDon13 wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
I have said on previous posts your not getting the players and you will struggle . So for you saints fans you need a few good signings to stay up so it has got to happen ! otherwise questions will need to be answered

Why?

Because you will continue to struggle with a championship side !

Alicesdad wrote:
The Daily Mirror is saying we are after Davies the Birmingham CB. Is there any news elsewhere on this as I don't have as many weblinks as many of you seem to have?? Is he any good?

I can't remember him last season as I'm doing a Bobby Ewing and pretending the last seven years was a dream.

St.Yorkie wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day? No wonder his performances are so bad.

Well perhaps he turned to the bottle after reading all the stick you lot give him on here!
There is no call for anyone to get behind the wheel of the car when over the limit - but what was over the limit?
The police would probably react very quickly. From third party experience they ask you to blow into the bag - and if it turns colour X - you've had a drink. If it then turns colour Y after 1-min (from memory) you are arrested.
There are no levels of innocence - but 2-pints could send you over the top - AND HOW MANY OF US ARE GUILTY OF THAT?
So let's see what happens - if border line on blood test then give the lad some slack.

BracknellSaint wrote:
Never understood those who head home early...You've paid for 90 minutes entertainment-you wouldn't leave 5 minutes before the end of a film would you? How many late goals/incidents are there too? It's like the idiots leaving the Citeh game early last year, only to miss two goals in a couple of minutes that won them the league!
It's a bit like some people who play golf,and get narky that the game in front is running up the fairways to speed things up. If you haven't got the time to enjoy it,don't bother in the first place. Footy always takes 90 minutes + injury time, so surely you'd take that into account?

Flashin the pan wrote:
If ramirez signs then beer head Prado can may be show him around a few local pubs during the early hours especially before a match. It won't make much difference to the outcome of the game..saints still lose even when they are sober.

Flashin the pan wrote:
If ramirez signs then beer head Prado can may be show him around a few local pubs during the early hours especially before a match. It won't make much difference to the outcome of the game..saints still lose even when they are sober.

SaintPC wrote:

BracknellSaint wrote:
Never understood those who head home early...You've paid for 90 minutes entertainment-you wouldn't leave 5 minutes before the end of a film would you? How many late goals/incidents are there too? It's like the idiots leaving the Citeh game early last year, only to miss two goals in a couple of minutes that won them the league!
It's a bit like some people who play golf,and get narky that the game in front is running up the fairways to speed things up. If you haven't got the time to enjoy it,don't bother in the first place. Footy always takes 90 minutes + injury time, so surely you'd take that into account?

I am one of those that sometimes leaves early. I live in London and both driving down and getting the train takes a couple of hours each way door-to-door, leaving 5 minutes early can sometimes mean I get home an hour earlier than I would do otherwise.

If it is a close game then I will always stay to the end...but if Saints are 3 or 4 up, or losing by more than 2 goals with a few minutes to play then sometimes, yes, I do leave early so that I can bet a lot of the traffic to get home.

Saying that you would prefer supports like me not to attend is crazy, would you really prefer genuine supporters not to turn up because you are offended that we dont stay the whole 90 minutes? What about those that go for a beer at half-time and get back to their seat 5 mins into the second half? Or those that pop to the loo for 5 mins?

I am a loyal Saints fan, and I watch them as often as I can. I could argue that I am a bigger fan as it takes far more of my time to come and watch a game than it does for a local.

I just think some sensible perspective is required, we all want the same thing - a successful team well supported - but football isn't life and death.

Rising_Son wrote:

Suttonite wrote:
Hopefully the Ramirez deal will be completed.

I think the CB problem is mostly caused by Fox.He can't defend and pulls the CB's out of position all the time. Also, Fonte might not be strong enough, so we must get someone in this week at CB and LB.

We bought Rodriguez as a stirker; he has to play there and not wide on the left. My guess is that in the final line-up, he will. Saints can't afford to pay £6-7m for a player and either not play him or play him out of position. They must see him as leading the attack for the future.

We played Rickie out of position on the wing quite a lot soon after NA got here. I would suggest that it made him a more versatile and complete footballer.

warrens 76 wrote:

SaintPC wrote:

BracknellSaint wrote:
Never understood those who head home early...You've paid for 90 minutes entertainment-you wouldn't leave 5 minutes before the end of a film would you? How many late goals/incidents are there too? It's like the idiots leaving the Citeh game early last year, only to miss two goals in a couple of minutes that won them the league!
It's a bit like some people who play golf,and get narky that the game in front is running up the fairways to speed things up. If you haven't got the time to enjoy it,don't bother in the first place. Footy always takes 90 minutes + injury time, so surely you'd take that into account?

I am one of those that sometimes leaves early. I live in London and both driving down and getting the train takes a couple of hours each way door-to-door, leaving 5 minutes early can sometimes mean I get home an hour earlier than I would do otherwise.

If it is a close game then I will always stay to the end...but if Saints are 3 or 4 up, or losing by more than 2 goals with a few minutes to play then sometimes, yes, I do leave early so that I can bet a lot of the traffic to get home.

Saying that you would prefer supports like me not to attend is crazy, would you really prefer genuine supporters not to turn up because you are offended that we dont stay the whole 90 minutes? What about those that go for a beer at half-time and get back to their seat 5 mins into the second half? Or those that pop to the loo for 5 mins?

I am a loyal Saints fan, and I watch them as often as I can. I could argue that I am a bigger fan as it takes far more of my time to come and watch a game than it does for a local.

I just think some sensible perspective is required, we all want the same thing - a successful team well supported - but football isn't life and death.

Tell Shankly that..well if he was alive!

st1halo wrote:
The best teams have always been a blend of youth and experience

and bluewhiteandred.... why dont you change your name to redwhiteandblack, you're always on here, you know you want to and some already have changed their allegiance, come and support the biggest and best club in the south cos while you support the skates we will always know you talk sh8 !!!!!

bigfella777 wrote:

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
hang em and flog em brigade out in full force this morning I see. I am sure you lot have never had a drink and driven before in your lives. If Guly did it he will pay the penalty. Leave him alone. Get off his back.

No because I dont drive,I cycle,neither am I a professional highly paid footballer who might have to play a competetive match the next day.

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
Guly is a disgrace,how can be out drunk at 4.30 in the morning if he has to train the next day?
No wonder his performances are so bad.

Bigfella, you're not a Saints fan. Your life must be particularly tragic to be on another city's website making comments at 8 in the morning.

Shut up you tool, I've lived here all my life.