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Southampton's Alessandro Del Piero signing beginning to look unlikely
10:26am Wednesday 5th September 2012 in Sport
Alessandro Del Piero
SAINTS’ chances of landing Alessandro Del Piero appeared to be slipping away last night.
The Italian footballing superstar, pictured right, had given club chiefs fresh hope he would opt for a free transfer move to St Mary’s when it appeared he narrowed down his myriad options to either Saints or Australian side Sydney FC.
But as The Daily Echo went to press all the indications were that he would turn down a move to St Mary’s with Liverpool making a late play to stop him from moving Down Under. The door was being kept open for Saints to make one last, concerted push, possibly via an improved offer to lure him to the south coast.
But, unless that was forthcoming, it seemed as if they would miss out with Sydney and Liverpool going headto- head to become the likely final stop in the glittering career of the 37-year-old Juventus legend.
Saints’ major draw card in trying to land Del Piero, pictured below, was the offer to play in the top flight in England but Liverpool could match that as well as Europa League football.
Saints’ initial offer was less that of Sydney but Del Piero has proved it isn’t all about the money after rebuffing reported interest from the Middle East and China that would have earned him almost double what Sydney are offering.
The playmaker and his representatives are, however, acutely aware of the player’s marketability.
His earnings from off the field endorsements are thought to be virtually as great as from his on the field prowess and the chance to effectively become the face of the Australian A-League must be a tempting offer.
He would be the highest profile player to make the move to the league, previous marquee signings having included Dwight Yorke and Robbie Fowler.
A move to Saints or Liverpool would arguably be a greater footballing challenge.
Del Piero would be a superstar in Southampton and a big draw wherever he went, but would be up against a whole heap of other footballing greats in the Premier League .
To hold down a regular starting berth in the Saints team, as well as the Liverpool side, would likely be a tougher proposition than at Sydney. The Australian side are thought to be offering Del Piero a $2m a year contract for one season with the option of extending it a further year.
Saints’ initial offer was a clever one – about 1m euros a year, plus substantial bonuses, for two years.
That deal would have pushed Del Piero within months of reaching his target to still be playing football at the age of 40, at which time if he desired a move abroad and a big final payday it would still surely be possible.
However, Liverpool’s possible late intervention added yet another hurdle to be overcome.
Comments(53)
sid the snake
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10:48am Wed 5 Sep 12
billythesaint
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10:54am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT
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10:54am Wed 5 Sep 12
Confucious
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10:58am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
SaintWavey
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11:00am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:John Mensah available on a free I believe...
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
OSPREYSAINT
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11:01am Wed 5 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:How tall are you?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
OSPREYSAINT
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11:01am Wed 5 Sep 12
SaintWavey wrote:Sounds intelligent!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:John Mensah available on a free I believe...
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
saint Compo
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11:05am Wed 5 Sep 12
We should be at least trying to find a good out of contract CB to strengthen the shaky defence.
BTW do others find difficulty in typing on this website without missing out letters?
COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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11:05am Wed 5 Sep 12
SaintWavey wrote:Looking at his CV he is far too injury prone and disruptive in the dressing room, not for us I think.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:John Mensah available on a free I believe...
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
SaintWavey
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11:07am Wed 5 Sep 12
SaintWavey
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11:08am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Not a bad defender. 29 years old so he's experienced, played in the prem for Sunderland on loan. Had spells at Lyon and Rennes also.
SaintWavey wrote:Sounds intelligent!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:John Mensah available on a free I believe...
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
SlupsPups
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11:14am Wed 5 Sep 12
saintsdan
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11:18am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT
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11:19am Wed 5 Sep 12
saint Compo wrote:I always seem to be missing out letters when I type, and also my spelling goes awol when I get a bit excited, I like to correct others, (it's not meant to be malicious or critical, just a tease) but that is spoilt if you get it wrong yourself! Even proof reading doesn't help, seems your brain tells you what you want to think is right, when in fact it's wrong, ho hum, sometimes creates a bit of mirth, no harm in that.
He wouldn't (shouldn't) get many chances for Saints, at least not without upsetting other pretenders to a starting place up front like Lambo, Lalla, Jay-Rod and Mayuka. HIs pay may also distort the wage structure. At this point we need players who can ensure we keep our place in the PL over the next 2 seasons and then push on towards the coveted European slots. We don't need show ponies/celebrities detracting from that objective.
We should be at least trying to find a good out of contract CB to strengthen the shaky defence.
BTW do others find difficulty in typing on this website without missing out letters?
COYR
Alicesdad
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11:20am Wed 5 Sep 12
I can't see what else is in the way. If its not about money (as suggested here) is he looking for European football? If thats the case its game over for us.
I have said before that I think it would be pointless him coming here, but after a nights sleep I think he could do some good if you consider the bigger picture.
Anyway .. onto more important things . can we field our best side against Arsenal . .are all these wondeful signings available, fit and ready? Do we know or not?
Cheapshot
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11:24am Wed 5 Sep 12
SlupsPups wrote:Speak for yourself mate! The poll clearly showed the majority of fans did want him!
Good. I hate the way this is being reported as if it were a deeply-desired transfer for the fans. It isn't. Unless he can play LB or CB of course.
Stroppy_gramps
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11:29am Wed 5 Sep 12
Looks like he went down under.
That's fine. Because, you see, we don't actually need him - but it would have been great to get him purely for his wealth of experience on the pitch. And what that would have meant to the other players in the team who could learn from him.
I hope that we can find some defenders who are free now. but you never know - the defenders we have are learning some hard lessons. Some of them may step up their game because of it and develop into a good strong back line.
You can rest assured that NA is going to be working them hard in the coming weeks.
This is merely a matter of time. And the delightful thing is - we have time on our side. There's plenty of games left this season, we haven't got an administrator trying to keep us going from week to week, we've got a good financial base.
NA is going to find a way for Saints to survive in the Premier League and NC is behind him all the way.
I'm quite relaxed about all this
NC Fan4Life
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11:29am Wed 5 Sep 12
Seems Liverpool know what he would bring to their squad and no doubt other Prem teams are watching the situation.
lemon cake
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11:35am Wed 5 Sep 12
billythesaint wrote:hes off to Wet Spam anyway!!.....I for one would be happy for Del Perio to come to saints. I think he could be so good both on and off the field.
If he was 35 I would be pleased to get him but he's just too old to play Premier league football. This isn't the same situation as Paul Scholes who roams around the centre of the park pulling strings. Del Piero would never settle in to the pace of this division. If he's too slow for Serie A he'd just look **** over here.
The contract we have offered him only works out at £15K- £18K per week, which in footballing terms isnt a great deal, so therefore not much of a risk. Plus he is on big bonuses which means he has goals to acheive,and acheivments to aim for rather then a big pay check for doing f all.
I too would love to have a better defense then we have but theres not a lot we can do about that now the windows shut......so all you doubters get off Nic and Nig's back and get behind the team. As soon as the doubters appear thats when cracks appear....stay posative.
Confucious
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11:36am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Taller than most because I always stand on a chair to clean my teeth. In any case you've inspired me to muck in and help and I've e mailed Nige to let him know I'm available.
Confucious wrote:How tall are you?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
I've admitted I'm not the quickest, but I do have the quick mind you mentioned. Many years have passed, but I I still hold the record at my school for doing the 100 metres in 6.8 seconds. Uniquely, only I knew a short cut.
My offer may not be taken up, however, as I don't like driving massive SUVs or wearing huge hi-fi earphones - and I don't have hundreds of tattoos either.
White and red till dead
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11:38am Wed 5 Sep 12
Cheapshot wrote:Not quite right. The poll said that the majority of fans that post on the echo site or at least had read the article page and bothered to click the poll wanted him... And exactly how many was that??
SlupsPups wrote:Speak for yourself mate! The poll clearly showed the majority of fans did want him!
Good. I hate the way this is being reported as if it were a deeply-desired transfer for the fans. It isn't. Unless he can play LB or CB of course.
roverme
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11:38am Wed 5 Sep 12
The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at.
7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.
Stroppy_gramps
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11:39am Wed 5 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:You have a womans legs!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Taller than most because I always stand on a chair to clean my teeth. In any case you've inspired me to muck in and help and I've e mailed Nige to let him know I'm available. I've admitted I'm not the quickest, but I do have the quick mind you mentioned. Many years have passed, but I I still hold the record at my school for doing the 100 metres in 6.8 seconds. Uniquely, only I knew a short cut. My offer may not be taken up, however, as I don't like driving massive SUVs or wearing huge hi-fi earphones - and I don't have hundreds of tattoos either.Confucious wrote:How tall are you?OSPREYSAINT wrote: Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).I'm free.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:43am Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT
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11:44am Wed 5 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:How many tattoos do you have and what do they say?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Taller than most because I always stand on a chair to clean my teeth. In any case you've inspired me to muck in and help and I've e mailed Nige to let him know I'm available.
Confucious wrote:How tall are you?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
I've admitted I'm not the quickest, but I do have the quick mind you mentioned. Many years have passed, but I I still hold the record at my school for doing the 100 metres in 6.8 seconds. Uniquely, only I knew a short cut.
My offer may not be taken up, however, as I don't like driving massive SUVs or wearing huge hi-fi earphones - and I don't have hundreds of tattoos either.
saintshorse101
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11:52am Wed 5 Sep 12
NC Fan4Life wrote:exactly!
Disagree with previous posts Del Piero would both excite and be a commercial success as well as giving invaluable experience to our younger players. No problem with his fitness as he would probably sit in an advanced midfield creating chances and only be needed for 30 to 45 minutes per game. Seems Liverpool know what he would bring to their squad and no doubt other Prem teams are watching the situation.
the point being made that "we dont need him" is neither here nor there, we dont need to have the best academy in the country but we have! just by him being here increases the profile of the club. he would bring in the experience that some have begged for, i know its not in the prem but he has won nearly everthing he could as a player. as others have said imagine lallana, jwd, clyne and our other great youngsters listening to his stories about world cups, champions league etc. surley that would encourage them to try to do the same!
i dont think he will come here now and to be honest i am not that bothered if not as we have some great players anyway, however it would be great if he did.
tugboat
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11:55am Wed 5 Sep 12
roverme wrote:And you have just started a whole lot more havent you,Either back this "NC picks the team and players" with hard facts or dont bother posting rubbish youve just made up.
Im glad he aint coming,we are already top heavy with frontmen. This is beginning to look a bit like the R. Lowe days when the Director was picking the players. I hope its not a repeat of that. Surely our Nigel knows whats needed and it isnt another striker, we loaned out a perfectly good one who I really feel for. I bet he didn't think for one minute he'd be out the door that fast, esp after scoring the goals that he did.
The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at.
7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.
And as for the Zambian lad,correct ,dont judge him on 15 minutes.
Cheapshot
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11:57am Wed 5 Sep 12
White and red till dead wrote:As it stands its 68% in favor of him signing! That good enough for you??
Cheapshot wrote:Not quite right. The poll said that the majority of fans that post on the echo site or at least had read the article page and bothered to click the poll wanted him... And exactly how many was that??
SlupsPups wrote:Speak for yourself mate! The poll clearly showed the majority of fans did want him!
Good. I hate the way this is being reported as if it were a deeply-desired transfer for the fans. It isn't. Unless he can play LB or CB of course.
You lot are missing the point of him signing....as mentioned above by Stroppy_gramps and NC Fan4Life it's what he'll bring to the club as a whole! take your blinkers off ffs!!
If there was a decent CB and LB available on a free don't you think we would have signed him???????
st1halo
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12:00pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Cheapshot wrote:I want him but wont be disappointed if we dont land him.. Im more than happy with our midfield and attacking options at this time
SlupsPups wrote:Speak for yourself mate! The poll clearly showed the majority of fans did want him!
Good. I hate the way this is being reported as if it were a deeply-desired transfer for the fans. It isn't. Unless he can play LB or CB of course.
STID
Dubai-saints89
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12:01pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Del Piero is one of several free agents still without a club, including ex-Fiorentina goalkeeper Artur Boruc, Milan full-back Gianluca Zambrotta, World Cup winner Fabio Grosso and the likes of Massimo Mutarelli, Simone Barone, Alex Manninger, Per Kroldrup, David Suazo and Simone Loria.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
miltonarcher
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12:10pm Wed 5 Sep 12
If he turns us down it will be a massive opportunity missed.
Dubai-saints89
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12:15pm Wed 5 Sep 12
miltonarcher wrote:turns out we were 3rd choice. hes just chosen sydney over liverpool...
Those who can appreciate the bigger picture would be in favour of getting him here. 70% in favour by the way! And just because he comes it doesn't mean NA has given up on defenders, hey, we can sign more than one player, if they are free agents.
If he turns us down it will be a massive opportunity missed.
The Grinch
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12:22pm Wed 5 Sep 12
I'm surprised really that having had a foot in the door to sign him, he would choose to go to Australia! English Premier League surely has to be something a top player would want to experience.
At the next opportunity to do so I recommend we try and get Raul - he would deliver the same effect.
skin2000
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12:23pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:You definitely need a couple of armfuls of tattoos, so the deal is off.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Taller than most because I always stand on a chair to clean my teeth. In any case you've inspired me to muck in and help and I've e mailed Nige to let him know I'm available.
Confucious wrote:How tall are you?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
I've admitted I'm not the quickest, but I do have the quick mind you mentioned. Many years have passed, but I I still hold the record at my school for doing the 100 metres in 6.8 seconds. Uniquely, only I knew a short cut.
My offer may not be taken up, however, as I don't like driving massive SUVs or wearing huge hi-fi earphones - and I don't have hundreds of tattoos either.
Dubai-saints89
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12:23pm Wed 5 Sep 12
The Grinch wrote:Raul is playing in qatar and hes on silly wages!
Del Piero would have been great for the profile of our club and, as anybody who understands football knows, class is class and will always be so - even in a player who is getting on.
I'm surprised really that having had a foot in the door to sign him, he would choose to go to Australia! English Premier League surely has to be something a top player would want to experience.
At the next opportunity to do so I recommend we try and get Raul - he would deliver the same effect.
The Grinch
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12:28pm Wed 5 Sep 12
st1halo
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12:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
roverme wrote:In my book CORTESE IS KING. Nothing remotely like RLowe in any way shape or form. You dont see him running around in track suits training with the squad, getting in on every tv interview or draining every penny out of the club.
Im glad he aint coming,we are already top heavy with frontmen. This is beginning to look a bit like the R. Lowe days when the Director was picking the players. I hope its not a repeat of that. Surely our Nigel knows whats needed and it isnt another striker, we loaned out a perfectly good one who I really feel for. I bet he didn't think for one minute he'd be out the door that fast, esp after scoring the goals that he did.
The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at.
7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.
No he quietly and professionally goes about his business, doesnt take any cr@p and is focused on Southampton FC. No doubt he is targeting some defenders but saw this deal with DP as an opportunity, thats all. I read a fascinating interview with him post last season in the Telegraph (still available to see online)......Trust me..... this man is as passionate as we are about our club.He is restoring us to our former glory (and lets face it we're not far off!) and in rapid time. Please dont even compare him with the crook that was RLowe
STID
Red&WhiteStripes
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1:07pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Scarborosaint
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1:16pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Too many people who post on here are more worried about what's happening 15 miles down the road , who bloody cares we are premiership they will be lucky to survive til the end of the month, we should be more worried about premiership survival and supporting our club, the manager and the players.
The saints go marching in..... Together as one
Confucious
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1:33pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I only have two and both are on my willy. One says COYR and the other, for the sake of the visually impaired, says exactly the same thing in braille. I'm very thoughful about things like that.
Confucious wrote:How many tattoos do you have and what do they say?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Taller than most because I always stand on a chair to clean my teeth. In any case you've inspired me to muck in and help and I've e mailed Nige to let him know I'm available.
Confucious wrote:How tall are you?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'm free.
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
I've admitted I'm not the quickest, but I do have the quick mind you mentioned. Many years have passed, but I I still hold the record at my school for doing the 100 metres in 6.8 seconds. Uniquely, only I knew a short cut.
My offer may not be taken up, however, as I don't like driving massive SUVs or wearing huge hi-fi earphones - and I don't have hundreds of tattoos either.
saint Compo
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2:07pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Red&WhiteStripes wrote:Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that post window PL clubs can't even take in players on loan. It's OK for a PL player to be loaned to say a Championship club but not to another PL club.
No thanks! Can't quite believe we are looking at another attacking player (of this age too!) when we are screaming out for a CB, LB and a GK!!! A post on another site alleges that Artur Boruc is available...also, I believe that Spurs are planning on putting Gomes and Cuddicini out for loan? "Hey over here please!"
COYR
long memory
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2:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12
st1halo wrote:st1halo,totally agreed with you up to the point of calling R Lowe a crook.I suspect the majority of people who come on this site would agree with you, but I take a different view.
roverme wrote:In my book CORTESE IS KING. Nothing remotely like RLowe in any way shape or form. You dont see him running around in track suits training with the squad, getting in on every tv interview or draining every penny out of the club.
Im glad he aint coming,we are already top heavy with frontmen. This is beginning to look a bit like the R. Lowe days when the Director was picking the players. I hope its not a repeat of that. Surely our Nigel knows whats needed and it isnt another striker, we loaned out a perfectly good one who I really feel for. I bet he didn't think for one minute he'd be out the door that fast, esp after scoring the goals that he did.
The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at.
7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.
No he quietly and professionally goes about his business, doesnt take any cr@p and is focused on Southampton FC. No doubt he is targeting some defenders but saw this deal with DP as an opportunity, thats all. I read a fascinating interview with him post last season in the Telegraph (still available to see online)......Trust me..... this man is as passionate as we are about our club.He is restoring us to our former glory (and lets face it we're not far off!) and in rapid time. Please dont even compare him with the crook that was RLowe
STID
Despite all R Lowe's frailties,IMO you can't take away the fact he delivered us with a new stadium,and was the main instigator of setting up the academy which we are so rightly proud of today. I am waiting for the abuse ,but have my tin hat on.
City Saint
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4:32pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Spell checker on iPhone and iPad has a habit of changing words without you noticing, so anyone (like me) who uses those gets hit by the gobbledygook stick from time to time.
saint Compo wrote: He wouldn't (shouldn't) get many chances for Saints, at least not without upsetting other pretenders to a starting place up front like Lambo, Lalla, Jay-Rod and Mayuka. HIs pay may also distort the wage structure. At this point we need players who can ensure we keep our place in the PL over the next 2 seasons and then push on towards the coveted European slots. We don't need show ponies/celebrities detracting from that objective. We should be at least trying to find a good out of contract CB to strengthen the shaky defence. BTW do others find difficulty in typing on this website without missing out letters? COYRI always seem to be missing out letters when I type, and also my spelling goes awol when I get a bit excited, I like to correct others, (it's not meant to be malicious or critical, just a tease) but that is spoilt if you get it wrong yourself! Even proof reading doesn't help, seems your brain tells you what you want to think is right, when in fact it's wrong, ho hum, sometimes creates a bit of mirth, no harm in that.
hands249
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7:26pm Wed 5 Sep 12
How long does it take for a player to be referred to by name ? Must really make him (Emmanuel Mayuka) feel welcome !
Dellgirl
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7:57pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Sol Cambell?
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
st1halo
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9:46pm Wed 5 Sep 12
long memory wrote:No need for tin hat long memory, I respect your opinion.
st1halo wrote:st1halo,totally agreed with you up to the point of calling R Lowe a crook.I suspect the majority of people who come on this site would agree with you, but I take a different view.
roverme wrote:In my book CORTESE IS KING. Nothing remotely like RLowe in any way shape or form. You dont see him running around in track suits training with the squad, getting in on every tv interview or draining every penny out of the club.
Im glad he aint coming,we are already top heavy with frontmen. This is beginning to look a bit like the R. Lowe days when the Director was picking the players. I hope its not a repeat of that. Surely our Nigel knows whats needed and it isnt another striker, we loaned out a perfectly good one who I really feel for. I bet he didn't think for one minute he'd be out the door that fast, esp after scoring the goals that he did.
The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at.
7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.
No he quietly and professionally goes about his business, doesnt take any cr@p and is focused on Southampton FC. No doubt he is targeting some defenders but saw this deal with DP as an opportunity, thats all. I read a fascinating interview with him post last season in the Telegraph (still available to see online)......Trust me..... this man is as passionate as we are about our club.He is restoring us to our former glory (and lets face it we're not far off!) and in rapid time. Please dont even compare him with the crook that was RLowe
STID
Despite all R Lowe's frailties,IMO you can't take away the fact he delivered us with a new stadium,and was the main instigator of setting up the academy which we are so rightly proud of today. I am waiting for the abuse ,but have my tin hat on.
Calling him a crook may have been a bit harsh as it implies he did something illegal and he didnt, however a lot of money was drained from the Saints coffers during his time. In our cup run to the final we had all home fixtures , fans queuing around the stadium to buy shirts that we made ourselves, full houses at SMS, which I estimate should have brought in £1m a pop, a wage structure in place, and yet a net spend after sales and purchases of players of only £250k per season, take out payin for the stadium and his court case fees and staff, add back in tv rights etc,,, something wasnt right but there are plenty of ways of fleecing a company legally, anyway,, im rambling... I dont credit him with the stadium too much as it had been rumbling on for 20 years and whoever had been in charge would have had to deal with that event, although I do accept he presided over it as he did with the academy but I tend to give Clive Woodward more credit as I understand it was his baby at the time, I could be wrong on that in which case I'll borrow your tin hat !!!
I do have a lot of respect for Cortese though. As a supporter I feel like I only have to worry about what happens on the pitch... Such is my trust for the chairman and I think we are very lucky to find ourselves in this position
STID
long memory
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10:15pm Wed 5 Sep 12
I totally concur with you regarding NC,it annoys me immensely when people slag him off,without NC and ML we would be where Pompey are today.Sorry if it offends anyone that I call our rivals by their correct name,just shows I am getting on in years,and was brought up to show respect.
City Saint
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10:50pm Wed 5 Sep 12
st1halo wrote:Wow, a compliment for Woodward and his time at Saints! You really will be needing that tin hat. Even if he did spawn the academy, we had a youth system that was generating exciting talent (beyond le tiss & co, there was the wallace brothers and many others). Woodie will go down in infamy for the infights with Redknapp I think -- the mutual loathing was readily apparent, and Rupert just let them duke it out. Ugly times for which everyone at Southampton Leisure Holdings (shudder) has some blame I think.
long memory wrote:No need for tin hat long memory, I respect your opinion. Calling him a crook may have been a bit harsh as it implies he did something illegal and he didnt, however a lot of money was drained from the Saints coffers during his time. In our cup run to the final we had all home fixtures , fans queuing around the stadium to buy shirts that we made ourselves, full houses at SMS, which I estimate should have brought in £1m a pop, a wage structure in place, and yet a net spend after sales and purchases of players of only £250k per season, take out payin for the stadium and his court case fees and staff, add back in tv rights etc,,, something wasnt right but there are plenty of ways of fleecing a company legally, anyway,, im rambling... I dont credit him with the stadium too much as it had been rumbling on for 20 years and whoever had been in charge would have had to deal with that event, although I do accept he presided over it as he did with the academy but I tend to give Clive Woodward more credit as I understand it was his baby at the time, I could be wrong on that in which case I'll borrow your tin hat !!! I do have a lot of respect for Cortese though. As a supporter I feel like I only have to worry about what happens on the pitch... Such is my trust for the chairman and I think we are very lucky to find ourselves in this position STIDst1halo wrote:st1halo,totally agreed with you up to the point of calling R Lowe a crook.I suspect the majority of people who come on this site would agree with you, but I take a different view. Despite all R Lowe's frailties,IMO you can't take away the fact he delivered us with a new stadium,and was the main instigator of setting up the academy which we are so rightly proud of today. I am waiting for the abuse ,but have my tin hat on.roverme wrote: Im glad he aint coming,we are already top heavy with frontmen. This is beginning to look a bit like the R. Lowe days when the Director was picking the players. I hope its not a repeat of that. Surely our Nigel knows whats needed and it isnt another striker, we loaned out a perfectly good one who I really feel for. I bet he didn't think for one minute he'd be out the door that fast, esp after scoring the goals that he did. The guy that replaced Lambert on Sunday didnt look much either, not that fifteen mins is much to go on of course but after his interview and the hype in the papers I think I was expecting something a bit more exciting than what I saw. Still get a negative feeling about Rodrigues as well, all that money and for what? I know hes out of position but that begs the question why buy him in the first place if he cant play where he is best at. 7 mill is enough for Nigel to have to pick him even if he didnt really want to. I cant see NC letting Nigel leave him out after all that dosh been spent. Maybe Im wrong and I hope that I am but its beginning to look like NC is pulling all the strings and it didnt get us anywhere last time. Our Nigel knows the score, knows whats needed and is the best guy to pick the team and the squad, I just hope he's left to do it, if not I think it could all go a bit sour with Nigel out the door as well. Fingers crossed I'm wrong but nothing that comes out of the club settles any nerves or fears about this, not having this paper on side isnt much help either, really bad PR from Saints but the Don will be obeyed won't he. I would just liek to read or hear more about the high morale, that Nigel is the main man who picks the team etc but theres nothing, even the rumours over Nigel and the Don at the back end of last year have not been played down. Left to fester these rumours gain credibility and all some of us would like is reassurance things at the club are well. We've seen two great matches so far lets hope the team have lots more but with more luck in the future.In my book CORTESE IS KING. Nothing remotely like RLowe in any way shape or form. You dont see him running around in track suits training with the squad, getting in on every tv interview or draining every penny out of the club. No he quietly and professionally goes about his business, doesnt take any cr@p and is focused on Southampton FC. No doubt he is targeting some defenders but saw this deal with DP as an opportunity, thats all. I read a fascinating interview with him post last season in the Telegraph (still available to see online)......Trust me..... this man is as passionate as we are about our club.He is restoring us to our former glory (and lets face it we're not far off!) and in rapid time. Please dont even compare him with the crook that was RLowe STID
I agree that the numbers have never added up from the Rupert years. I think it will be a long time before anyone really works out what happened to the Rupert millions.
I still have share certificates knocking about somewhere...
st1halo
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11:51pm Wed 5 Sep 12
I wasnt praising Woodward by the way, I think he was just a Lowe cronie who exploited the club fr as much as he could get too, 'long memory' is right in a way, they have both contributed something i suppose, and in a way if they hadnt been that way we wouldnt be where we are now.... every cloud and all that!!
STID
City Saint
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12:48am Thu 6 Sep 12
st1halo wrote:Yeah, agreed. Glad it's all long gone now.
I still have mine somewhere too!! And some of the Financial Reports, maybe I should dig them out and see if I can trace Ruperts millions!!
I wasnt praising Woodward by the way, I think he was just a Lowe cronie who exploited the club fr as much as he could get too, 'long memory' is right in a way, they have both contributed something i suppose, and in a way if they hadnt been that way we wouldnt be where we are now.... every cloud and all that!!
STID
OSPREYSAINT
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11:19am Fri 7 Sep 12
Dellgirl wrote:Can I add youngish to the CV!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Sol Cambell?
Now how about concentrating on a Free agent Centre Back with a bit of pace and a quick mind, anybody know of one? (or two)?).
OSPREYSAINT
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11:20am Fri 7 Sep 12
City Saint wrote:Predictive text must be one of the most annoying inventions of all time.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Spell checker on iPhone and iPad has a habit of changing words without you noticing, so anyone (like me) who uses those gets hit by the gobbledygook stick from time to time.
saint Compo wrote: He wouldn't (shouldn't) get many chances for Saints, at least not without upsetting other pretenders to a starting place up front like Lambo, Lalla, Jay-Rod and Mayuka. HIs pay may also distort the wage structure. At this point we need players who can ensure we keep our place in the PL over the next 2 seasons and then push on towards the coveted European slots. We don't need show ponies/celebrities detracting from that objective. We should be at least trying to find a good out of contract CB to strengthen the shaky defence. BTW do others find difficulty in typing on this website without missing out letters? COYRI always seem to be missing out letters when I type, and also my spelling goes awol when I get a bit excited, I like to correct others, (it's not meant to be malicious or critical, just a tease) but that is spoilt if you get it wrong yourself! Even proof reading doesn't help, seems your brain tells you what you want to think is right, when in fact it's wrong, ho hum, sometimes creates a bit of mirth, no harm in that.

bullsbags says...
10:47am Wed 5 Sep 12
Not for us at this time,we have priorities elsewhere in the team