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Saints hopeful of avoiding worst ever start to season
9:43am Thursday 20th September 2012 in Sport
By Gordon Simpson, Senior Sports Reporter
Francis Benali playing for Saints at The Dell
SAINTS must steer clear of defeat against Aston Villa this weekend if they are to avoid equalling their worst ever start to a season.
Nigel Adkins ’ side have lost their opening four matches of the Premier League campaign, and on Saturday will be bidding to avoid a fifth straight beating.
Since joining the Football League in 1920, only once have they ever opened up with five consecutive losses – in the 1998/99 season.
Back then, with Dave Jones as manager, Saints recovered to finish 17th and celebrate another “Great Escape”.
Francis Benali was a member of that team, and is confident the current squad will also overcome their frustrating start.
“We were traditionally fairly slow starters,” he said. “It’s disappointing when you’re not getting results and early points on the board, but by no means is it the end.
“You have got to maintain that mental toughness, resilience and belief in yourselves.
“There was a tag line we used to use, which was ‘the spirit of Southampton ’, which included the fans and everyone who pulled behind the team. “I honestly believe that support we had helped keep us up on those occasions.
“It has been evident the past few seasons the spirit that the current team have got.
“It’s a new test for them now, and they will have to show their resilience, mental toughness and strength.
“I have every confidence they will do that and will turn things round.
“I have seen a lot already this season that is very encouraging and they will be more than fine to hold their own in the Premier League .”
Saints’ first five games in 1998/99 were considerably less daunting than the fixtures Nigel Adkins’ men have had to endure.
Liverpool, Charlton, Nottingham Forest, Leeds and Newcastle were the club’s conquerors back then.
This term, Saints have suffered defeats to Manchester City, Wigan, Manchester United and Arsenal.
The club are no strangers to bad starts, though, and if anything have become specialists at overcoming them.
Four times since 1920 they have begun campaigns with four straight defeats, and they have never once been relegated in those seasons.
As well as the 1998/99 Premier League campaign, they also started with four losses in 1925/26, 1927/28 and 1938/39 – all in the old division two.
And those aren’t the only nightmare openings.
In 1993/94, Saints lost eight of their first nine matches, but recovered to finish 18th in the 22-team Premier League.
Even more amazingly, they stayed up in 1969/70 despite winning just two of their opening 25 top-flight matches.
Comments(112)
saintnitch
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9:57am Thu 20 Sep 12
Sorry.
St Retford
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10:05am Thu 20 Sep 12
saintnitch wrote:Don't give up on it. We're only ten points off top spot. When we get going these buggers won't know what's hit them.
It's all my fault. I put a tenner on us to win the Premiership @7500-1
Sorry.
devonsaint2
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10:11am Thu 20 Sep 12
The Arsenal defeat was bad, but Arsenal were very good. Better than the 2 Manchester clubs on the day by far.
We need more speed / agility in the middle of the defence.
Hooiveld & Yoshida or even Cork might be the answer.
2.1 Saints on Saturday and the season starts
Puddletown Saint
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10:12am Thu 20 Sep 12
Season starts on Saturday
KD
NC JF Yos LS
JWP SD MS
GR RL AL
COYR
rpjcheney
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10:20am Thu 20 Sep 12
Spot on - both comment and team.
devonsaint2
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10:30am Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford
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10:30am Thu 20 Sep 12
Puddletown Saint wrote:Not sure I'd play Nicola Cortese at right back.
If we had lost to WBA Spam Norwich and Reading then I would be worried
Season starts on Saturday
KD
NC JF Yos LS
JWP SD MS
GR RL AL
COYR
(I think he'd be better on the left.)
SaintMax
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10:33am Thu 20 Sep 12
rpjcheney wrote:ditto.
@Puddletown Saint
Spot on - both comment and team.
Like the midfield which has 3 that can hold, but with AL and GR who can fly at them.
Dickosfc
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10:44am Thu 20 Sep 12
Sainty saint saint
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10:53am Thu 20 Sep 12
MGRA
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10:55am Thu 20 Sep 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:05am Thu 20 Sep 12
warrens 76
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11:17am Thu 20 Sep 12
However we do not want a final decider again...well unless we win it and stay up!
Beer Monster
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11:26am Thu 20 Sep 12
Sainty saint saint wrote:I've still got mine - I use it as a tent these days...
Looking at that picture of Benali - didn't they make the shirts to fit the players in those days or did Franny shrink himself in the wash?
COYR!
Tongdii
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11:51am Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Is this for the TV programes Undrcover Bss' or 'Back to the floor'?
Puddletown Saint wrote:Not sure I'd play Nicola Cortese at right back.
If we had lost to WBA Spam Norwich and Reading then I would be worried
Season starts on Saturday
KD
NC JF Yos LS
JWP SD MS
GR RL AL
COYR
(I think he'd be better on the left.)
Alicesdad
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11:54am Thu 20 Sep 12
I'm glad that so many true Saints fans are taking a positive view but this was a truly dismal story to appear when spirits need lifting. Given that the closest stats quoted were ten years ago they bear no relevance at all to todays situation.
As I said yesterday its all about perspective. For goodness sake Echo cheer up !!
Alicesdad
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11:57am Thu 20 Sep 12
Enock84
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12:03pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SO50 Saint
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12:12pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Confucious
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12:17pm Thu 20 Sep 12
And the omens are good....
Yesterday Nicola broke the record for the amount of time in one go that a Saints chairman could blow a bugle whilst riding a bike uphill and dragging four cwt of pig iron and holding his breath (without dying).
Normandy
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12:17pm Thu 20 Sep 12
deep down if we lose on Saturday
at home NC will be thinking about the oprtions very seriously.s
Come on NA you have made some bad calls especially the sub
s toward the end of the game please get this game right and back on the winning run, No one wants you out but if we carry on loosing NC will have no choice.
And I for one do not want pasty
face back.
george chivers
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12:18pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Alicesdad wrote:Depends how you look at it. You can read it as us having a solid track record of dramatic improvement after very poor starts. Which is positive!
Well said Seedhouse.. BUT .... What a gloomy set of statistics to dig up.
I'm glad that so many true Saints fans are taking a positive view but this was a truly dismal story to appear when spirits need lifting. Given that the closest stats quoted were ten years ago they bear no relevance at all to todays situation.
As I said yesterday its all about perspective. For goodness sake Echo cheer up !!
What it doesn't say is we are are a richer club now with money to spend and Saturday will be the first time we will be able to field our maximum strength team.
(more or less).
Points on the board on Saturday!
Get behind Nigel Adkins!
Shout his name!
COYR
StMarysSaint
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12:22pm Thu 20 Sep 12
spyware
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12:35pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Enock84 wrote:Yes no doubt we all agree (including the chairman, manager, players and fans alike) that we want 'results'.
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
In all walks of life when things don't go according to plan, there will always be someone to proportion the blame onto someone else.
Personally speaking I reckon that NA, since he 'took over the reigns' has done a great job and I think many will agree.
But at the end of the day it is all about results and if NC considers that Nigel is not getting the best out of his squad of players then sure enough he will replace him.
Don't know as yet if it is any coincidence or not, but heard from someone that Gordon Strachan was at St.Mary's last week.
batesieboy
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12:37pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Mush On The Beach
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12:45pm Thu 20 Sep 12
spyware wrote:Flash Gordon approaching!!!
Enock84 wrote:Yes no doubt we all agree (including the chairman, manager, players and fans alike) that we want 'results'.
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
In all walks of life when things don't go according to plan, there will always be someone to proportion the blame onto someone else.
Personally speaking I reckon that NA, since he 'took over the reigns' has done a great job and I think many will agree.
But at the end of the day it is all about results and if NC considers that Nigel is not getting the best out of his squad of players then sure enough he will replace him.
Don't know as yet if it is any coincidence or not, but heard from someone that Gordon Strachan was at St.Mary's last week.
What do you mean Flash Gordon approaching?
MiltonRoad
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12:53pm Thu 20 Sep 12
DisplacedFan
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12:54pm Thu 20 Sep 12
All that being said, I predict a happy Saturday!
St Retford
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1:08pm Thu 20 Sep 12
1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish.
2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress.
3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel?
4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke.
5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little.
6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there.
7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him.
So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.
Alicesdad
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1:13pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Absolutely stonking post !! Just takes all the gloom and doom and boots it into another universe.
Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game:
1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish.
2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress.
3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel?
4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke.
5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little.
6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there.
7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him.
So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.
Game set and match, says it all, are you all listening !!!!!!!!!!!
SO50 Saint
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1:15pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Scarborosaint
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1:26pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Absolutely spot on !! Too many negative comments and moaners amongst so called supporters ? NA has delivered us back to back promotions and restored our pride in our club. NC has stabilised the club invested in the infrastructure, continued the work ML started and let's not forget we spent 33 million in the transfer window .
Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game:
1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish.
2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress.
3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel?
4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke.
5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little.
6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there.
7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him.
So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.
2 years ago I watched us play out a 0-0 draw at Hartlepool in a midweek fixture, we have just played 3 of the biggest clubs in the country and spent
12 million pound on a player, we have come along way
CB FRY LIVES
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1:30pm Thu 20 Sep 12
His Sheffield Wednesday team should give us a good runout in the League Cup.Whatever the XI we put out we should beat them but Villa on Saturday will be no roll over.Remember the Wigan match.We were going to do all sorts of things to them and ended up with egg on our Mushes.I think we will beat Villa.Even a draw will be a step in the right direction but i fear another defeat will be disastrous not so much for the club and the players but for Nigel Adkins.Come on you SAINTS you owe your boss man a good result.
St Retford
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1:38pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SO50 Saint wrote:Heh - I know I shouldn't but I do really like Michael Appleton. He's got this blind loyalty to Pompey that makes him seem like some great big puppy dog who sticks by its owners despite the fact they live in a caravan and feed him crisps for tea. It's quite endearing, really.
With regards to point 3 I think Michael Appleton is on a sharper trajectory but in the opposite direction to that of Nigel
bigfella777
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1:39pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SO50 Saint
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1:41pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford
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1:44pm Thu 20 Sep 12
bigfella777 wrote:What the fcuk are you talking about? Nothing's happened to him. Calm down and stop shouting.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MAYUKA!!
Hobson82
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1:47pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Some fans want to talk about what will happen to Adkins if we lose, and other fans are super positive and can't see anything but 3 points for the mighty Saints this Saturday.
I personally think Adkins has until the West Ham game to turn things around. Whatever happens against Villa I think he will be ok, for now.
Obviously I will be supporting the team and manager 100%, because just like eveyone else I want to see Saints challenging for Europe just like Nige said before the season kicked off.
Mush On The Beach
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1:51pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SO50 Saint wrote:Totton or Netley Athletic perhaps. Do the Cowherds still have a Sunday League team?
I agree with you. Haven't really listened to any of his interviews or other stuff since they got relegated but thought last season he spoke very well and seemed as if he realises how much of a bad situation they are in. I would not be suprised if he goes on to far better things
SO50 Saint
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1:54pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Walter K
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2:00pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford
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2:14pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Walter K wrote:I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?
Mush On The Beach
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2:20pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Where there is Poopey there is also Saints.
Where there is John Terry there is also Fabrice Muamba.
On this theme I have been Yanged up all week knowing that I will be seeing Del Piero in the A-League this season.
Alas, I have just been slapped by a large dose of Yin, that old Villa lump of lard Emile Heskey has just joined Newcastle Jets.
Balance is restored.
bigfella777
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2:23pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Why doesnt he start then,he's such a good player.
bigfella777 wrote:What the fcuk are you talking about? Nothing's happened to him. Calm down and stop shouting.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MAYUKA!!
Walter K
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2:24pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:He's not sorting me out with a free anything, I don't/won't use a bus - I'll happily take a take a new Manager sooner rather than later though.
Walter K wrote: Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
SaintMax
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2:24pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:and lets not forget that NC has been negotiating these free buses all summer long, when we all thought he was in Italy.
Walter K wrote:I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?
Pogle
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2:44pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Enock84 wrote:Plank!
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
ShakeyWiffles
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2:59pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Then go on to say avoid equalling it? Make your mind up!
Rising_Son
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3:16pm Thu 20 Sep 12
ShakeyWiffles wrote:I should imagine that they are hoping to avoid both.
"Saints hopeful of avoiding worst ever start to season"
Then go on to say avoid equalling it? Make your mind up!
Sainty saint saint
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3:36pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Walter K wrote:Sssshhh, Walter, ssshhhh.
St Retford wrote:He's not sorting me out with a free anything, I don't/won't use a bus - I'll happily take a take a new Manager sooner rather than later though.
Walter K wrote: Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
ventnorsaint
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3:47pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Saintsayer II
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3:49pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Just bloody brilliant Thank you
Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game:
1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish.
2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress.
3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel?
4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke.
5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little.
6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there.
7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him.
So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.
See You When The Fog Clears
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4:00pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Saintsayer II wrote:Yep. with you all the way on this.... Stick behind YOUR team and SUPPORT
St Retford wrote: Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game: 1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish. 2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress. 3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel? 4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke. 5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little. 6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there. 7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him. So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.Just bloody brilliant Thank you
saintand266
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4:20pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Velleity
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4:53pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Walter K wrote:Odd that. Within the past couple of weeks you posted: " I wish I was joking but two promotions in consecutive seasons is a great achievement by any standard, not even the great Ted Bates or LMcM achieved that.
St Retford wrote:He's not sorting me out with a free anything, I don't/won't use a bus - I'll happily take a take a new Manager sooner rather than later though.
Walter K wrote: Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
Losing NA would be a catastrophe"
Will the real Walter K please step forward?
techsture
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5:08pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Confucious
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5:13pm Thu 20 Sep 12
See You When The Fog Clears wrote:Spot on.
Saintsayer II wrote:Yep. with you all the way on this.... Stick behind YOUR team and SUPPORT
St Retford wrote: Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game: 1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish. 2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress. 3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel? 4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke. 5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little. 6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there. 7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him. So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.Just bloody brilliant Thank you
I'm having a "Nigel Adkins Red Army" scarf printed to go with my new-strip GULY shirt.
City Saint
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5:42pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Scarborosaint wrote:"Negative comments" don't make those of us who are fearful for Nige's future "so-called" supporters. We are supporters, full stop.
St Retford wrote: Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game: 1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish. 2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress. 3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel? 4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke. 5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little. 6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there. 7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him. So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.Absolutely spot on !! Too many negative comments and moaners amongst so called supporters ? NA has delivered us back to back promotions and restored our pride in our club. NC has stabilised the club invested in the infrastructure, continued the work ML started and let's not forget we spent 33 million in the transfer window . 2 years ago I watched us play out a 0-0 draw at Hartlepool in a midweek fixture, we have just played 3 of the biggest clubs in the country and spent 12 million pound on a player, we have come along way
Retford makes good points here and they make a lot of sense to me. I hope he's right. I still imagine we'll end up with Mark Hughes in time to panic buy through the January transfer window if things don't start turning around from Villa onwards.
The false war is over, the real war now starts.
Coyr.
SouthamptonLegend
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5:43pm Thu 20 Sep 12
If we win Saturday it will all be forgotten about...
City Saint
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5:44pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Beer Monster wrote:That was the late 80s, early 90s... Big shirts, HUGE shorts and dodgy hair. Everyone looked like nick kershaw in a number 7 shirt.
Sainty saint saint wrote: Looking at that picture of Benali - didn't they make the shirts to fit the players in those days or did Franny shrink himself in the wash?I've still got mine - I use it as a tent these days... COYR!
buster gutt
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6:26pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Crossley Place Saint
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6:30pm Thu 20 Sep 12
THREE points - even a draw would be a disaster.
A full stadium, to show NC, NA and the players that we are right behind them. And I mean FULL - every single seat taken, no empty spaces to signal a downturn in attendances and bring the WUMs on here to burble about "empty seats" again.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:17pm Thu 20 Sep 12
techsture wrote:Can you smell fish?
Totally out of his depth. Tactically and in the Transfer market, NA quite simply has to go.
up saints
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7:38pm Thu 20 Sep 12
bigfella777 wrote:can someone please tell me what has happened to tandari lee
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MAYUKA!!
Baddesley Bill
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7:45pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SouthamptonLegend wrote:Is it me...or do comments like this seem to be (almost) willing us to lose. I'm not paticularly picking on you Mr Legend, but the neg heads can't wait for the chance for some more moaning and groaning.
We shall wait and see...
If we win Saturday it will all be forgotten about...
I will be going full of confidence and I will give my all to help my Club get their well deserved 3pts.
It's not a question of waiting and seeing...it's a question doing and participating! COYR
insane saint
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7:47pm Thu 20 Sep 12
" i am going to have some fish for dinner tonight"
he said "we have some Pompey Phill in the freezer are we going to have that."
i could not stop laughing so i had to share it with you lot on here.....
Strasbourg Saint
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7:59pm Thu 20 Sep 12
insane saint wrote:He's a good lad and has been well brought up. He deserves plenty of chips with that skate 'phillet'.
found it quite funny tonight i said to my son
" i am going to have some fish for dinner tonight"
he said "we have some Pompey Phill in the freezer are we going to have that."
i could not stop laughing so i had to share it with you lot on here.....
SaintinCanada
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8:03pm Thu 20 Sep 12
There is no other team, and I am proud of it.
It is part of who we all are. Nice eh?
saintand266
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8:08pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SaintinCanada wrote:Spot on !
The tough times make the good times feel even better. Even if we lost next Saturday Iwould still remain a passionate Saints fan. It is a 60-plus year old addiction that I am stuck with.
There is no other team, and I am proud of it.
It is part of who we all are. Nice eh?
mack chinnon
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8:09pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:He applied for the Coventry job.
SO50 Saint wrote:Heh - I know I shouldn't but I do really like Michael Appleton. He's got this blind loyalty to Pompey that makes him seem like some great big puppy dog who sticks by its owners despite the fact they live in a caravan and feed him crisps for tea. It's quite endearing, really.
With regards to point 3 I think Michael Appleton is on a sharper trajectory but in the opposite direction to that of Nigel
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:10pm Thu 20 Sep 12
up saints wrote:He was spelt wrong as usual!
bigfella777 wrote:can someone please tell me what has happened to tandari lee
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MAYUKA!!
J.P.M
says...
8:11pm Thu 20 Sep 12
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:12pm Thu 20 Sep 12
SouthamptonLegend wrote:What will be forgotten?
We shall wait and see...
If we win Saturday it will all be forgotten about...
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:17pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
J.P.M
says...
8:22pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
insane saint
says...
8:25pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:justa pompey moron.....
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:27pm Thu 20 Sep 12
insane saint wrote:Close.
J.P.M wrote:justa pompey moron.....
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
St Retford
says...
8:29pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:Jealous Pompey Moron.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
J.P.M
says...
8:30pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:30 miles NOT close.
insane saint wrote:Close.
J.P.M wrote:justa pompey moron.....
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
I live in Romsey, not pp land.
BUT
I know a bunch of SFC's when I see them
insane saint
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8:34pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:just having a bit of fun.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:30 miles NOT close.
insane saint wrote:Close.
J.P.M wrote:justa pompey moron.....
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
I live in Romsey, not pp land.
BUT
I know a bunch of SFC's when I see them
now that is what it is all about
OSPREYSAINT
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8:36pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:They used to be choosy about who they let live in Romsey, looks like standards have fallen.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:30 miles NOT close.
insane saint wrote:Close.
J.P.M wrote:justa pompey moron.....
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
I live in Romsey, not pp land.
BUT
I know a bunch of SFC's when I see them
Baddesley Bill
says...
8:38pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Juvenile Pr@t Mouthingoff?
J.P.M wrote:Jealous Pompey Moron.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Jolly Perceptive Man??
J.P.M wrote:A prize for the best answer to what J.P.M. stands for?
I hd a funny incident too.
I said to my lad, "do you know what SFC means"
And he said.......
SFC =
Six
Failed
Chances
He he ho ho ha ha ha!!!
J.P.M
says...
8:55pm Thu 20 Sep 12
I was only goading
I am on lates in the refinery, with nothing to pass the time....and it is cold outside
J.P.M
says...
8:58pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:07pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:11pm Thu 20 Sep 12
J.P.M wrote:Which bit?
Balldy Bill is a bit of a gangster!!
slugger
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9:34pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Baddesley Bill
says...
9:35pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He's got a point. I did have a gat gun when I was a lad. And my ginger beer racket was the talk of Mountbatten School... innit :O)
J.P.M wrote:Which bit?
Balldy Bill is a bit of a gangster!!
St Retford
says...
9:40pm Thu 20 Sep 12
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
angus mc coatup
says...
9:41pm Thu 20 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:dunno, but more people want to buy em then watch em!
Forgiven, just suffering from a sense of humour failure, any one know who Portco Ltd. are?
slugger
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9:51pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
St Retford
says...
10:04pm Thu 20 Sep 12
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
slugger
says...
10:08pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:safe as houses mush !
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
St Retford
says...
10:14pm Thu 20 Sep 12
slugger wrote:I smoked one before running the London Marathon last year. They should pay me for brand support. But I think we've stumbled on something important here. Which fags do Saints fans like smoking? Post your answers below:
St Retford wrote:safe as houses mush !
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
(PS, non-smokers can do one if you're thinking of posting something really self-righteous. To quote Bill Hicks, non-smokers die every day so don't go taking any moral high ground.)
Baddesley Bill
says...
10:26pm Thu 20 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:I smoke Sovereign...only twenty a week though...ten just before kick off....and ten right after the whistle blows.
slugger wrote:I smoked one before running the London Marathon last year. They should pay me for brand support. But I think we've stumbled on something important here. Which fags do Saints fans like smoking? Post your answers below:
St Retford wrote:safe as houses mush !
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
(PS, non-smokers can do one if you're thinking of posting something really self-righteous. To quote Bill Hicks, non-smokers die every day so don't go taking any moral high ground.)
St Retford
says...
10:32pm Thu 20 Sep 12
angus mc coatup
says...
10:35pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:personally I don't think you can beat a good shag,but er indoors likes nothing more than sucking on a ready rubbed.
St Retford wrote:I smoke Sovereign...only twenty a week though...ten just before kick off....and ten right after the whistle blows.
slugger wrote:I smoked one before running the London Marathon last year. They should pay me for brand support. But I think we've stumbled on something important here. Which fags do Saints fans like smoking? Post your answers below:
St Retford wrote:safe as houses mush !
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
(PS, non-smokers can do one if you're thinking of posting something really self-righteous. To quote Bill Hicks, non-smokers die every day so don't go taking any moral high ground.)
Enock84
says...
11:47pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Go to a game and I will take you more serious u tosser if we lose to villa Adkins has to go that is from someone who goes to matches not someone who hides behind a laptop you ****
randre
says...
11:53pm Thu 20 Sep 12
However, has anyone heard the rumour, apparently saints are lining up a dream team of Glenn Hoddle and Eileen Drewery for team talks, Gordon strachan as director of football and twitchy fish face as finance director. Wow what a team... What no room for Stuart grey or merrington?!
randre
says...
11:57pm Thu 20 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:Top top post St Retford (again).
See You When The Fog Clears wrote:Spot on.
Saintsayer II wrote:Yep. with you all the way on this.... Stick behind YOUR team and SUPPORT
St Retford wrote: Reasons why Nigel should be worrying about nothing other than Saturday's game: 1) When Nicola sacked Pardew it was made clear in a statement that the board was well-aware that frequent manager changes are damaging to a football club. The Pardew decision, I think we were all aware, was not about football and therefore gives no indication of how willing Nicola is to axe a manager if results are sluggish. 2) Nicola spent half the summer personally trying to sign Gaston Ramirez, who accounted for about half our total spending. He'll be more aware than anyone that until Ramirez is starting in the team and on the same page as his teammates that Saints will be a work in progress. 3) Nicola believes in signing talent which is on its way up. Is there a young(ish) manager on a sharper career trajectory anywhere in the English game than Nigel? 4) Nigel has given a positive atmosphere to the whole club which you cannot put a price tag on. Without Nigel that buoyancy disappears at a stroke. 5) Nicola comes from a business culture very different to ours; one in which long term progression and financial security are the important things. A bad start or a run of losses does, in the scheme of things, mean very little. 6) Nicola is a football fan who wants us to play with a certain style. Nigel is delivering there. 7) Nigel has a long term contract. Nicola wouldn't have given him that if he didn't believe in him. So quit yo' jibber jabber and support the man and the team.Just bloody brilliant Thank you
I'm having a "Nigel Adkins Red Army" scarf printed to go with my new-strip GULY shirt.
hedgeenddan
says...
7:37am Fri 21 Sep 12
hedgeenddan
says...
7:44am Fri 21 Sep 12
Enock84 wrote:couldnt agree more
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
7:57am Fri 21 Sep 12
hedgeenddan wrote:Are you a breeding pair of skunts? I'm after one for the hovel I've sponsored at Marwell.
Enock84 wrote:couldnt agree more
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:13am Fri 21 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Both of my parents died aged 90 years, I am sure if they hadn't chain smoked for many years after the 2nd World War they may have lived to be a Hundred, let this be a warning, smoking can kill, as can my sense of humour.
slugger wrote:I smoked one before running the London Marathon last year. They should pay me for brand support. But I think we've stumbled on something important here. Which fags do Saints fans like smoking? Post your answers below:
St Retford wrote:safe as houses mush !
slugger wrote:I'm a Marlboro Lights man, myself. They make you feel like a cowboy but, because they're 'lights', definitely don't give you cancer. In fact I shall probably live forever.
St Retford wrote:i do like a ciggie ......... full strength mind , none of your namby pamby lights .
slugger wrote:John Player Special?
jpm ? ...... jps , now we're talking !
John Paul the Second?
Jan-Paul Saeijis?
Jason Puncheon Scores?
Jean Paul Sartre?
I must kno!!!
(PS, non-smokers can do one if you're thinking of posting something really self-righteous. To quote Bill Hicks, non-smokers die every day so don't go taking any moral high ground.)
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:21am Fri 21 Sep 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Mere Skates an endangered species, give freely.
hedgeenddan wrote:Are you a breeding pair of skunts? I'm after one for the hovel I've sponsored at Marwell.
Enock84 wrote:couldnt agree more
Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want results
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:27am Fri 21 Sep 12
Rising_Son
says...
8:54am Fri 21 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Agreed. But, at the same time, I don't think think it will come to the worst case scenario.
In the worse case scenario, if we were to get relegated, (with a large parachute payment) I couldn't think of a better Manager than NA to get us straight back up again, save time and money, keep Nige.
Walter K
says...
9:15am Fri 21 Sep 12
Velleity wrote:I think you've got yourself a touch confused there Velleity, the tail end of your post is a quote from another poster on here! (TEBOURBA)
Walter K wrote:Odd that. Within the past couple of weeks you posted: " I wish I was joking but two promotions in consecutive seasons is a great achievement by any standard, not even the great Ted Bates or LMcM achieved that. Losing NA would be a catastrophe" Will the real Walter K please step forward?St Retford wrote:He's not sorting me out with a free anything, I don't/won't use a bus - I'll happily take a take a new Manager sooner rather than later though.Walter K wrote: Win lose or draw on Saturday, Adkins days are numbered. May seem harsh to the sentimental amongst us, but do any of you truly believe that NC isn't actively courting a replacement right now?I truly believe that, right now, NC is actively sorting you out with free buses.
I think you'll find that I'm consistent with my view on this subject matter!
Cheers.
TEBOURBA
says...
11:44am Fri 21 Sep 12
NC is at the helm and has all the clout, NA is a very good coach but with no clout when it comes to spending the Company's money.
NC had about 5 months to recognise, what most of Saints supporters had already recognised,that we needed to sign a Premiership class goalkeeper and two defenders,he didn't.
Failing to plan is planning to fail and that is exactly what NC has done.
His arrogance will prevent him from doing the decent thing and resigning, NA will be the sacrificial lamb, which will be travesty..
Until NC replaces the numpty over the hill KD and signs two experienced defenders Saints will languish at the bottom of the league.
It may already be too late ! --- what is the precedent ? --- no team has lost its first 3 games and survived in the Premiership well, thanks to tightwad, blinkered NC, Saints have lost their first 4!!
Writing's on the wall I'm afraid, miracles do happen but the last one was 2,000 years ago in JC's time -- let's all pray, with NC at the helm it's our only hope!
hedgeenddan
says...
2:01pm Fri 21 Sep 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:actually im a saints season ticket holder and have been for the last 7 years but at the start of the season all adkins wen ton about was pushing for europe, he is a tatically week manager who makes changes far to late and as a saints for im sure you dont want to see us sat bottom of th league, the way we are going we will be down my christmas so yeahh i say adkins out and get a guy who has proven premiership ability as a manager BENITEZ
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Mere Skates an endangered species, give freely.hedgeenddan wrote:Are you a breeding pair of skunts? I'm after one for the hovel I've sponsored at Marwell.Enock84 wrote: Adkins has to go I've had enough of all this positive **** I want resultscouldnt agree more
Sainty saint saint
says...
3:11pm Fri 21 Sep 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Yet more anti-NC marketing from Tebourba. Give it a rest - everyone knows you have a personal axe to grind.
Saints history shows that instead of dumping manager after manager, we should have dumped the Chairman Rupert Lowe years before we did. Had we done that, we would probably not have been relegated from the Premiership.
NC is at the helm and has all the clout, NA is a very good coach but with no clout when it comes to spending the Company's money.
NC had about 5 months to recognise, what most of Saints supporters had already recognised,that we needed to sign a Premiership class goalkeeper and two defenders,he didn't.
Failing to plan is planning to fail and that is exactly what NC has done.
His arrogance will prevent him from doing the decent thing and resigning, NA will be the sacrificial lamb, which will be travesty..
Until NC replaces the numpty over the hill KD and signs two experienced defenders Saints will languish at the bottom of the league.
It may already be too late ! --- what is the precedent ? --- no team has lost its first 3 games and survived in the Premiership well, thanks to tightwad, blinkered NC, Saints have lost their first 4!!
Writing's on the wall I'm afraid, miracles do happen but the last one was 2,000 years ago in JC's time -- let's all pray, with NC at the helm it's our only hope!

SO50 Saint says...
9:48am Thu 20 Sep 12