Nathaniel Clyne pulls out of England U21 squad

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SAINTS defender Nathaniel Clyne has pulled out of the England U21 squad.

He missed Saints 2-2 draw with Fulham over on Sunday with a dead leg.

That injury now looks like it will keep him from representing his country this weekend, against Serbia.

Comments(138)

OSPREYSAINT says...
6:54pm Wed 10 Oct 12

A shame but our need is greater, hopefully fit again after the break.

dualsy says...
7:19pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Jay rod champ striker only,we will need 40 plus goals to stay up , 40 or less to give away ,danny fox doesnt stay switched on for 90 mins ,you cant do it all on the cheep ,cline is a good player ,we need another centre back a right back and as i said a prem striker ,but heres the thing there is none available ,its not rocket science nigel
C.O.Y.R PS stop giving the ball away?

Little Hitler says...
7:46pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Congratulations on cramming a truck load of negatives into the shortest possible space.

FFS!

City Saint says...
7:53pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.

Confucious says...
8:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12

City Saint wrote:
Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.
I'm not pulling your leg when I say it was Fox who killed Clyne's leg. Soon we will be on our last legs ie legless - and will not have a leg to stand on.

I heard that the academy lads were all put to work today strapping shin pads to all the legs on the tables and chairs at St Marys because Guly and Fox hate legs.

Over the Edge says...
8:25pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Confucious wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.
I'm not pulling your leg when I say it was Fox who killed Clyne's leg. Soon we will be on our last legs ie legless - and will not have a leg to stand on.

I heard that the academy lads were all put to work today strapping shin pads to all the legs on the tables and chairs at St Marys because Guly and Fox hate legs.
Your pulling our legs Confucious

slugger says...
8:26pm Wed 10 Oct 12

puts the "clyne was left out because he was caught drinking in town drinking on sat night" to bed at least . COYR !

slugger says...
8:27pm Wed 10 Oct 12

slugger wrote:
puts the "clyne was left out because he was caught drinking in town drinking on sat night" to bed at least . COYR !
disregard either of the "drinking" and hopefully it'll make sense .

Sir Ad E Noid says...
8:48pm Wed 10 Oct 12

A dead leg for each of our important team players. Enough of them now thank you.

dadofmy3sons says...
8:49pm Wed 10 Oct 12

we cold disregard both of the drinking really then?

Crossley Place Saint says...
9:03pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Maybe Clyne and Ramirez can strap their dead legs together and play as one like in a three-legged race?

Seriously, people keep naming Guly as the one who made the tackle that's put Gaston out for 6 weeks - but that only seems to come from the comment threads, messages quoting earlier messages. There is nothing in the orginal news articles that says what actually happened to either Ramirez or Clyne and if any other player might be to blame, and I very much doubt that the Club would make such information public. So let's just be thankful that at least we don't have a game this weekend to be affected by these injuries, unlike other clubs in lower leagues.

slugger says...
9:06pm Wed 10 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons wrote:
we cold disregard both of the drinking really then?
reckon you're right ........... he has a dead leg and isn't a naughty boy .

MGRA says...
9:22pm Wed 10 Oct 12

best I not comment on dead legs eh !? :0)

truelysaints says...
9:30pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Confucious wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.
I'm not pulling your leg when I say it was Fox who killed Clyne's leg. Soon we will be on our last legs ie legless - and will not have a leg to stand on.

I heard that the academy lads were all put to work today strapping shin pads to all the legs on the tables and chairs at St Marys because Guly and Fox hate legs.
I hear that they are changing the teams name from Saints to 'Legs eleven' boom boom.

Velleity says...
9:47pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Maybe Clyne and Ramirez can strap their dead legs together and play as one like in a three-legged race?

Seriously, people keep naming Guly as the one who made the tackle that's put Gaston out for 6 weeks - but that only seems to come from the comment threads, messages quoting earlier messages. There is nothing in the orginal news articles that says what actually happened to either Ramirez or Clyne and if any other player might be to blame, and I very much doubt that the Club would make such information public. So let's just be thankful that at least we don't have a game this weekend to be affected by these injuries, unlike other clubs in lower leagues.
Of course it's Guly's fault. Everything is.

Velleity says...
9:50pm Wed 10 Oct 12

And if it's not Guly then Fox must be to blame. Or Fonte (if it was before the weekend, but not after).

Rising_Son says...
11:58pm Wed 10 Oct 12

dualsy wrote:
Jay rod champ striker only,we will need 40 plus goals to stay up , 40 or less to give away ,danny fox doesnt stay switched on for 90 mins ,you cant do it all on the cheep ,cline is a good player ,we need another centre back a right back and as i said a prem striker ,but heres the thing there is none available ,its not rocket science nigel
C.O.Y.R PS stop giving the ball away?
And your point is?

RedArmy1 says...
12:31am Thu 11 Oct 12

Want him back to give pace back to the Team.

We go to wet spam to WIN.

FIGHT to keep possession and attack attack attack to come back with 3 points.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

Strasbourg Saint says...
7:38am Thu 11 Oct 12

slugger wrote:
slugger wrote:
puts the "clyne was left out because he was caught drinking in town drinking on sat night" to bed at least . COYR !
disregard either of the "drinking" and hopefully it'll make sense .
Drinking always makes sense, Slugger, especially after a beer or two.

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:47am Thu 11 Oct 12

City Saint wrote:
Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.
All very well but if you kept up you would know that he picked up the dead leg in the Everton game, nothing to do with training accidents at all.

Confucious says...
9:20am Thu 11 Oct 12

Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.

Confucious says...
9:22am Thu 11 Oct 12

Some may be interested to know that old 5 litre oil cans can be purchased online for 55p each (plus VAT) from Confuciousold5litreo
ilcans.com

Dickosfc says...
9:34am Thu 11 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
slugger wrote: puts the "clyne was left out because he was caught drinking in town drinking on sat night" to bed at least . COYR !
disregard either of the "drinking" and hopefully it'll make sense .
Drinking always makes sense, Slugger, especially after a beer or two.
My mate saw him in Rhino at 3am Saturday night. Can only guess he knew he wasn't playing so went out

warrens 76 says...
9:36am Thu 11 Oct 12

The last words my Dad said to me were
"you selfish boy"
I am now a fishmonger...

SFCOLDBOY says...
9:45am Thu 11 Oct 12

Didn't we once sign a player called Tadanari Lee.
I seem to recall that he was rummered to be a revelation.
I think I remember him scoring a great goal at SMS.
I seem to recall that he had great pace and ball skills.
When are we going to see this player.
Does anybody know when he will be fit to play?
We need this player!
What is going on?
COYR

Confucious says...
10:00am Thu 11 Oct 12

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Didn't we once sign a player called Tadanari Lee.
I seem to recall that he was rummered to be a revelation.
I think I remember him scoring a great goal at SMS.
I seem to recall that he had great pace and ball skills.
When are we going to see this player.
Does anybody know when he will be fit to play?
We need this player!
What is going on?
COYR
I don't think he was a player, but in charge of catering. From South Korea apparently.

You may remember a few weeks ago there was a huge improvement in the meat quality of the hot dogs on sale. Even burger fans were switching to them.

Anyhow, he was fired. Apparently he had taken the word dog rather too literally.

Saints + Wigan fan II says...
10:17am Thu 11 Oct 12

This has to be a positive, as a large saints and England fan, Im happy he has pulled out, as this will give him time to recover properly. Clyne is an important part of the mighty saints back 4.

This will also give him more time to train with the boys. We cant forget he’s still only new to the Southampton set up and the more he learns the better. He is a huge hot prospect for the future. I believe he will be playing RB for England in the next 3 years.

Buzzing for the next Saints game though COYR.

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:09am Thu 11 Oct 12

Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.

tugboat says...
11:11am Thu 11 Oct 12

Latest rumour is that sneak, Nicola Cortese,you know him hes the one thats running the club into the ground-well,
He is in fact a major shareholder in a swiss prosthetic limb company.
Apparently it was built using the money the club got for oxo.
And.....Gaston is having a blade fitted as we speak.
I just knew he was up to no good.
Also....Nigel has been told that his training format has to change,and a points system for injuries is not acceptable,ie 3 for a dead leg,2 for a chinese burn,and 1 for a poke in the eye.

Mush On The Beach says...
11:21am Thu 11 Oct 12

Does anybody know the Korean for Charlie George is a cardboard cut-out?

Alicesdad says...
11:30am Thu 11 Oct 12

Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
Have you written to NA or NC about possible making these mandatory legware for our defence ?

The cunning device appears to stop unwanted intruders getting past a certain point. This would certainly help our defensive resources.

I love invention !! Apart from god knows how many boot designs there has been no major innovation in football kit technology since Robbie Fowler used to wear those nose strips to stop himself snoring during Liverpool away games.

I think these tin enemy repellents are going to catch on. Get them now before Confucious realizes their potential and triples the price.

Alicesdad says...
11:39am Thu 11 Oct 12

The main news today is that there is indeed no news today.

News of this news has not made the news thus concealing the news from those whose business it is to report the news. This surely comes as news to nobody. Assuming they even knew this was the case.

Does this count as a news blackout or a news whitewash? Either way the absence of news will continue until new news emerges. You all knew that.

SO50 Saint says...
11:45am Thu 11 Oct 12

Who do we blame for there being no news Guly, Fox or the fans who left after Fulham took the lead on Sunday?

warrens 76 says...
11:46am Thu 11 Oct 12

Alicesdad wrote:
The main news today is that there is indeed no news today.

News of this news has not made the news thus concealing the news from those whose business it is to report the news. This surely comes as news to nobody. Assuming they even knew this was the case.

Does this count as a news blackout or a news whitewash? Either way the absence of news will continue until new news emerges. You all knew that.
It's not new that some knew however it is newsthat not all news is good news, how this happened heaven knows.

OSPREYSAINT says...
11:49am Thu 11 Oct 12

warrens 76 wrote:
The last words my Dad said to me were
"you selfish boy"
I am now a fishmonger...
What's the price of skate at the moment?

Confucious says...
11:54am Thu 11 Oct 12

Alicesdad wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
Have you written to NA or NC about possible making these mandatory legware for our defence ?

The cunning device appears to stop unwanted intruders getting past a certain point. This would certainly help our defensive resources.

I love invention !! Apart from god knows how many boot designs there has been no major innovation in football kit technology since Robbie Fowler used to wear those nose strips to stop himself snoring during Liverpool away games.

I think these tin enemy repellents are going to catch on. Get them now before Confucious realizes their potential and triples the price.
I have indeed written e mails to both NA and NC about this valuable device. Both were accompanied by mobile phone video material I took two weeks ago at Staplewood.

The video shows Fonte and Hooiveld chatting on the pitch whilst being carefully eyed by three squirrels. It was clear from the squirrels alert posture and the 42 degree angle of their tails that they were very close to running up the players legs in pursuit of nuts.

Neither player can be fully aware of the voracious nature of the British squirrel and were entirely unguarded.

I gave NA and NC a copy of a doctor's testimony showing that a man with a 2mm bite taken from a testicle would be unfit to play for up to a month. Furthermore centre backs require balanced testicles and an unbalanced pair would require a switch to left or right back as appropriate.

To date, shamefully, no reply has been received and no orders taken at Confuciousold5litreo
ilcans.com

Mush On The Beach says...
12:00pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Does anybody know the Italian for Wrong choice Del Pierro?

Mush On The Beach says...
12:15pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Does anybody know the Skunt for fuming from Johnstones Paints debacle?

Mush On The Beach says...
12:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Does anybody know the way to San Jose?

redsnapper says...
12:26pm Thu 11 Oct 12

This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!

Mush On The Beach says...
12:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

redsnapper wrote:
This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!

Licky_Rambert says...
1:10pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Maybe Clyne and Ramirez can strap their dead legs together and play as one like in a three-legged race? Seriously, people keep naming Guly as the one who made the tackle that's put Gaston out for 6 weeks - but that only seems to come from the comment threads, messages quoting earlier messages. There is nothing in the orginal news articles that says what actually happened to either Ramirez or Clyne and if any other player might be to blame, and I very much doubt that the Club would make such information public. So let's just be thankful that at least we don't have a game this weekend to be affected by these injuries, unlike other clubs in lower leagues.
Guly? is that you?

slapheadphil says...
1:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
redsnapper wrote: This is worrying:- Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards. How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back? Any advance on this trio? John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly. Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!
Hugh Fisher, theres a blast from the past, equalised with about a minute to go in the 3rd round of the FA cup against Villa in our glory year. Everyone remembers Bobby Stokes but if it wasnt for Hugh we would have been out in the 3rd round....

OSPREYSAINT says...
1:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!
Dave Walker, Jimmy Case, Terry Hurlock, George Kirby we have had plenty.

Rising_Son says...
1:30pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!
Dennis Hollywood, Docker Walker, O`Niell and Cliff Huxford.

Mush On The Beach says...
1:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Oooohhhh Terry Hurlock, I’d forgotten all about him.
Then again, did I see him recently on My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding?

Alicesdad says...
2:08pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Names such as Dennis, McGrath, Golac, O'Neill, Steele bring a tear to my nostalgic eye. Even Saints fans used to wince at some of their artistic yet somehow clinical movements.

It has to be said though that these days the referees book everyone for anything. Except diving it seems. I doubt if any of these would have survived the warm-up without a yellow card. By the third week of the season they would all be suspended.

How times change.

Mush On The Beach says...
2:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

It’s not a footy match unless you have the opposition.
In my time, enough respect to Bruce, Pallister and Irwin.
Honourable mention to a previous Leeds era .... Hunter, Giles, J Charlton ... Dirty Leeds :)

TEBOURBA says...
2:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

With the two week boring lay off due to the Internationals there isn't much debate about the Saints.
There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in this column, contributors either think that NC is infallible, can walk to the Isle of Wight and turn water in to wine, or like me, think he has no respect for his customers or his employees and at the first sign of a major problem will show a clean pair of heels.
Working most of my life in the financial sector of the City of London it has been my privilege to meet many Chairmen and CEO's of Billion $ International Companies that make SFC Ltd look like a market stall.
To a man (or woman) I haven't met any who didn't genuinely care for their customers and their employees.
Unlike NC these men and women contributed the bacon to the English breakfast plate, not the egg.
Many Saints supporters (customers) have expressed a number of concerns, surely this 2 week layoff would be an ideal time for NC to come out of his bunker and give an exclusive interview to the excellent SDE, to address and hopefully allay the concerns and fears of his customers.
The vast majority of the Captains of Industry I have met, wouldn't require a second asking.
Will NC take up the challenge? --- I hope he does ---- but I doubt it!
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

Mush On The Beach says...
2:43pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
With the two week boring lay off due to the Internationals there isn't much debate about the Saints.
There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in this column, contributors either think that NC is infallible, can walk to the Isle of Wight and turn water in to wine, or like me, think he has no respect for his customers or his employees and at the first sign of a major problem will show a clean pair of heels.
Working most of my life in the financial sector of the City of London it has been my privilege to meet many Chairmen and CEO's of Billion $ International Companies that make SFC Ltd look like a market stall.
To a man (or woman) I haven't met any who didn't genuinely care for their customers and their employees.
Unlike NC these men and women contributed the bacon to the English breakfast plate, not the egg.
Many Saints supporters (customers) have expressed a number of concerns, surely this 2 week layoff would be an ideal time for NC to come out of his bunker and give an exclusive interview to the excellent SDE, to address and hopefully allay the concerns and fears of his customers.
The vast majority of the Captains of Industry I have met, wouldn't require a second asking.
Will NC take up the challenge? --- I hope he does ---- but I doubt it!
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!
Racing Turkey Giblet, add Tabasco sauce.
Insert a skewer through the rectum and place on the BBQ for 30 mins.
Feed to the DOGS.

CB FRY LIVES says...
2:44pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Rising_Son wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!
Dennis Hollywood, Docker Walker, O`Niell and Cliff Huxford.
Cliff Huxford was probably the hardest tackler of the lot.even Hollywood steered clear of him in training.Ted Bates used to play the first X1 against the stiffs in training.he encouraged the first team boys to kick pieces out of the youngsters.character building.but woe betide any youngster who had the audacity or stupidity to kick one of ted's first team darlings.
getting back to Cliff Huxford he led by example from the front.i think we got him from Chelsea in exchange for forward Charlie Livesey.Cliff turned out to be the better part of the deal.i can remember him skippering the SAINTS when we won the DIV 3 Championship.Our centre half in those days was John Page a mountain of a man.In goal we had another big lad-Bob Charles who i think was from Wolston.He was in the same England schoolboys squad as a young Norbert Stiles.
Another hard man from the Bates era was Jimmy Gabriel.He could tackle some.he had won the League championship with Everton and was a grizzled season pro when Ted signed him.Not only could he tackle but he could also drink some.Bill Shankley didn't call Southampton an ALEHOUSE FOOTBALL TEAM FOR NOTHING.In those days we fought and tackled harder than anyone else on the pitch and drank more than any other team off of it.
One last name in the hardman stakes what about David Webb,he could put it about a bit too.After he left us he went on to win the FA and European Cup winners cup with Chelsea.He went to the Kings Road and we got JOE KIRKUP in exchange.i think Joe was in the WEST HAM team who won the European Cup WINNERS cup at wembley v some Kraut team in 1965 or thereabouts.A lot of our defenders had a lot of big time footballing experience in those days.NA and NC take note.Experienced quality top flight defenders needed in the Jan transfer window.COME ON YOU SAINTS.ONWARDS AND UPWARDS.

City Saint says...
2:48pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Another dead leg! What ARE they doing in training? Gaston has the same problem.

Do they practice Charlie Horses while defending set pieces?

If Guly is behind this one too, we need a steward's inquiry.
All very well but if you kept up you would know that he picked up the dead leg in the Everton game, nothing to do with training accidents at all.
Hmmmm. Are YOU Guly in disguise?

In all seriousness, with "dead leg" given as the reason for our top stars being crocked, you have to wonder about the training, preparation, diagnosis offered; or all of the above.

Maybe it's a euphemism, because what happened to Gaston didn't sound so much like a dead leg as something out of a Fringe episode.

Perhaps saints have been invaded by shape-shifters.

TEBOURBA says...
2:58pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Never ceases to amaze me that when faced with a far superior intellect how many people resort to inane verbal abuse.
Says a lot more about them, than it does me, but then I I don't for one minute believe they would understand this response.

Mush On The Beach says...
2:59pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
This is worrying:-

Our self inflicted injury list includes Cheung, Clyne and Ramirez and then there is Cork and probably another 2 or 3 following some of those sly Fulham hacks, and next Prem game is against the team with most yellow cards.

How about suggestions for Saints Men of War from way back?

Any advance on this trio?

John McGrath, Hugh Fisher and Marsden who were always up for it if I remember rightly.

Guys we need you!
Dennis, Golac, Steele ...... Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!!!
Dennis Hollywood, Docker Walker, O`Niell and Cliff Huxford.
Cliff Huxford was probably the hardest tackler of the lot.even Hollywood steered clear of him in training.Ted Bates used to play the first X1 against the stiffs in training.he encouraged the first team boys to kick pieces out of the youngsters.character building.but woe betide any youngster who had the audacity or stupidity to kick one of ted's first team darlings.
getting back to Cliff Huxford he led by example from the front.i think we got him from Chelsea in exchange for forward Charlie Livesey.Cliff turned out to be the better part of the deal.i can remember him skippering the SAINTS when we won the DIV 3 Championship.Our centre half in those days was John Page a mountain of a man.In goal we had another big lad-Bob Charles who i think was from Wolston.He was in the same England schoolboys squad as a young Norbert Stiles.
Another hard man from the Bates era was Jimmy Gabriel.He could tackle some.he had won the League championship with Everton and was a grizzled season pro when Ted signed him.Not only could he tackle but he could also drink some.Bill Shankley didn't call Southampton an ALEHOUSE FOOTBALL TEAM FOR NOTHING.In those days we fought and tackled harder than anyone else on the pitch and drank more than any other team off of it.
One last name in the hardman stakes what about David Webb,he could put it about a bit too.After he left us he went on to win the FA and European Cup winners cup with Chelsea.He went to the Kings Road and we got JOE KIRKUP in exchange.i think Joe was in the WEST HAM team who won the European Cup WINNERS cup at wembley v some Kraut team in 1965 or thereabouts.A lot of our defenders had a lot of big time footballing experience in those days.NA and NC take note.Experienced quality top flight defenders needed in the Jan transfer window.COME ON YOU SAINTS.ONWARDS AND UPWARDS.
Good post CB

Mush On The Beach says...
3:03pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Chopper Harris and ????... at Chelsea, apparently he could do some damage in old footy laws of engagement

Velleity says...
3:06pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Never ceases to amaze me that when faced with a far superior intellect how many people resort to inane verbal abuse.
Says a lot more about them, than it does me, but then I I don't for one minute believe they would understand this response.
I'm afraid that will be because you shot your credibility bolt a long, long time ago, so no-one (apart from your alter ego Thomasupton) has a good word to say for you.

If you still had even a shred of credibility, I'm sure people might engage with your arguments; now it's lost, you're likely to get noting but ad hominem attacks.

I do hope that you will understand this response as you're clearly in an intellectual class of your own.

Velleity says...
3:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12

As for "Never ceases to amaze me that when faced with a far superior intellect how many people resort to inane verbal abuse."

I'm not sure that I've ever read a sentence dripping more with irony in my entire life. Using inane abuse (i.e. "You're stupid compared to me") when complaining about inane abuse is priceless. Keep up the comedy!

redsnapper says...
3:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
With the two week boring lay off due to the Internationals there isn't much debate about the Saints.
There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in this column, contributors either think that NC is infallible, can walk to the Isle of Wight and turn water in to wine, or like me, think he has no respect for his customers or his employees and at the first sign of a major problem will show a clean pair of heels.
Working most of my life in the financial sector of the City of London it has been my privilege to meet many Chairmen and CEO's of Billion $ International Companies that make SFC Ltd look like a market stall.
To a man (or woman) I haven't met any who didn't genuinely care for their customers and their employees.
Unlike NC these men and women contributed the bacon to the English breakfast plate, not the egg.
Many Saints supporters (customers) have expressed a number of concerns, surely this 2 week layoff would be an ideal time for NC to come out of his bunker and give an exclusive interview to the excellent SDE, to address and hopefully allay the concerns and fears of his customers.
The vast majority of the Captains of Industry I have met, wouldn't require a second asking.
Will NC take up the challenge? --- I hope he does ---- but I doubt it!
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!
Tebourba, R u serious?

The City has been hugely influential in todays economic crisis with its unfettred greed and never ending list of banking scandals (eg Libor the latest to emerge)
The Captains of Industry you adore have flogged off early every major British brand India, Thailand, and China.

I have never met NC but he strikes me as a focussed guy and quite frankly moving us up ,from the depths of Div 1 to an improving position in the Prem tells me he is doing OK

IMHO There are no fears about SFC and its management, meanwhile the British economy continues to tank along the bottom courtesy of very little investment from your Captains in the City.

Do wake up to reality!!

saintand266 says...
3:21pm Thu 11 Oct 12

The boorer does make me laugh, I wonder what the planet Tebourba is really like ?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
3:31pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?

Mush On The Beach says...
3:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Reading above the form of all the boys choices is classy, obviously it is all subjective and era driven BUT ...... Did we ever get a better bargain than Jimmy Case?

Mush On The Beach says...
3:41pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?
Turns out that’s why he wore one and washed one .... To clean the evidence.... Dirty Leeds

CB FRY LIVES says...
3:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Chopper Harris and ????... at Chelsea, apparently he could do some damage in old footy laws of engagement
Chopper Harris was hard but he was done good and proper by Eddie Clamp when Eddie was playing for Stoke in the old 2nd division against Chelsea.it was a top of the table clash in the early 60's.Stan Matthews was still playing for Stoke and Harris was kicking him black and blue.Clamp told Harris to lay off the old man.Harris ignored the warning.Clamp went in on the young chopper with the cool skills of a seasoned hatchet man.young ronnie nearly became the first englishman launched or rather kicked into space.after the kicking that Eddie gave him Chopper wouldn't say boo to a goose for the rest of the match.I think stoke won the match and ended up getting promoted.
Eddie Clamp won a couple of League titles and FA CUP with Wolves.He played for Entgland in the 1958 World cup finals in sweden.Brazil won that competition but when they played England it ended 0-0.Clamp marked the Brazilian midfield schemer DIDI out of the match.When Clamp left Wolves he went to Arsenal but the arsenal manager,Billy Wright who was Clamp's captain at both Wolves and England showed him the door for dirty play.a fact i have always found to be ironic because they played alongside each other at wolves for years.Eddie then went to Stoke and became Stanley Matthews on the pitch minder.I have heard rumour that when he quit the game Eddie went to work for none other than MR NICE aka Howard Marks.I think he died a few years ago.His mother was the laundery lady at Molineaux for donkeys years.I cant remember ever seeing Eddie play at the dell but he might have done in the season he spent at stoke in the old second division.

TEBOURBA says...
4:03pm Thu 11 Oct 12

I've always had the greatest admiration for the SDE.
It is and always has been honest and impartial.
What other Newspaper would give equal space to the rantings of cretins and the considered thoughts and opinions of an Oxford Graduate with an Honours Degree and a life time working at the highest level in the Square Mile.
Well done SDE, keep up the good work!

ShakeyWiffles says...
4:05pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Never ceases to amaze me that when faced with a far superior intellect how many people resort to inane verbal abuse.
Says a lot more about them, than it does me, but then I I don't for one minute believe they would understand this response.
Surely you must realise that people are bored of your constant negative attitude regarding Cortese. I would much rather have a chairman that makes decisions which people disagree with as it shows he is not easily swayed by every stupid little request, than one who says yes to everything the fans request.

redsnapper says...
4:07pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Not a Saint amongst them:-

THE 50 DIRTIEST PLAYERS

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A couple of ex Saints though and a Lambert (female)

Mush On The Beach says...
4:10pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Chopper Harris and ????... at Chelsea, apparently he could do some damage in old footy laws of engagement
Chopper Harris was hard but he was done good and proper by Eddie Clamp when Eddie was playing for Stoke in the old 2nd division against Chelsea.it was a top of the table clash in the early 60's.Stan Matthews was still playing for Stoke and Harris was kicking him black and blue.Clamp told Harris to lay off the old man.Harris ignored the warning.Clamp went in on the young chopper with the cool skills of a seasoned hatchet man.young ronnie nearly became the first englishman launched or rather kicked into space.after the kicking that Eddie gave him Chopper wouldn't say boo to a goose for the rest of the match.I think stoke won the match and ended up getting promoted.
Eddie Clamp won a couple of League titles and FA CUP with Wolves.He played for Entgland in the 1958 World cup finals in sweden.Brazil won that competition but when they played England it ended 0-0.Clamp marked the Brazilian midfield schemer DIDI out of the match.When Clamp left Wolves he went to Arsenal but the arsenal manager,Billy Wright who was Clamp's captain at both Wolves and England showed him the door for dirty play.a fact i have always found to be ironic because they played alongside each other at wolves for years.Eddie then went to Stoke and became Stanley Matthews on the pitch minder.I have heard rumour that when he quit the game Eddie went to work for none other than MR NICE aka Howard Marks.I think he died a few years ago.His mother was the laundery lady at Molineaux for donkeys years.I cant remember ever seeing Eddie play at the dell but he might have done in the season he spent at stoke in the old second division.
Well done CB, good old facts to fill in the gaps for us youngsters.
You should join SFCOLDBOY, AlicesDad, Hedghend Bob, Osprey and the rest of the OLD GANG
at the next Tuesday Night Bingo gathering. Eyes down at 8, Strippers start at 10.

TEBOURBA says...
4:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.

SO50 Saint says...
4:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Strippers start at 10 sounds intersting? Is this like a special night being put on by the staff of the White Horse in London?

Snebs says...
4:24pm Thu 11 Oct 12

I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.

CB FRY LIVES says...
4:27pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
did you know the goalie for porpoisemouth in that final was the grandad of the future SAINTS and ENGLAND UNDER 23 full back, STEVE MILLS who would have gone on to play for the full England team if he hadn't have been struck down by a career ending illness.

CB FRY LIVES says...
4:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Chopper Harris and ????... at Chelsea, apparently he could do some damage in old footy laws of engagement
Chopper Harris was hard but he was done good and proper by Eddie Clamp when Eddie was playing for Stoke in the old 2nd division against Chelsea.it was a top of the table clash in the early 60's.Stan Matthews was still playing for Stoke and Harris was kicking him black and blue.Clamp told Harris to lay off the old man.Harris ignored the warning.Clamp went in on the young chopper with the cool skills of a seasoned hatchet man.young ronnie nearly became the first englishman launched or rather kicked into space.after the kicking that Eddie gave him Chopper wouldn't say boo to a goose for the rest of the match.I think stoke won the match and ended up getting promoted.
Eddie Clamp won a couple of League titles and FA CUP with Wolves.He played for Entgland in the 1958 World cup finals in sweden.Brazil won that competition but when they played England it ended 0-0.Clamp marked the Brazilian midfield schemer DIDI out of the match.When Clamp left Wolves he went to Arsenal but the arsenal manager,Billy Wright who was Clamp's captain at both Wolves and England showed him the door for dirty play.a fact i have always found to be ironic because they played alongside each other at wolves for years.Eddie then went to Stoke and became Stanley Matthews on the pitch minder.I have heard rumour that when he quit the game Eddie went to work for none other than MR NICE aka Howard Marks.I think he died a few years ago.His mother was the laundery lady at Molineaux for donkeys years.I cant remember ever seeing Eddie play at the dell but he might have done in the season he spent at stoke in the old second division.
Well done CB, good old facts to fill in the gaps for us youngsters.
You should join SFCOLDBOY, AlicesDad, Hedghend Bob, Osprey and the rest of the OLD GANG
at the next Tuesday Night Bingo gathering. Eyes down at 8, Strippers start at 10.
anychance of the stripper coming on at eight because i'm in the land of nod at 10.

CB FRY LIVES says...
4:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs wrote:
I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
good observation.usually in his after match interview with solent Nigel is usually very bullish come win,draw or defeat but in the interviews he gave after both the everton and fulham match he sounded very down and defensive.his natural optimism was conspicuous in its abscence.

Strasbourg Saint says...
4:40pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?
I had wondered what that was dangling around his neck. I had assumed it was a bit of flesh from yet another of mother's misguided (and somewhat misdirected) squirrel hunts.

At least I now know his nervousness is only partly down to the pellet gun.

Strasbourg Saint says...
5:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
did you know the goalie for porpoisemouth in that final was the grandad of the future SAINTS and ENGLAND UNDER 23 full back, STEVE MILLS who would have gone on to play for the full England team if he hadn't have been struck down by a career ending illness.
I've enjoyed reading about all the old players. I certainly can't go back as far as Bill Rochford or Cliff Huxford but they must have been hard if Dennis Hollywood and Brian O'Neill were not their equal.

As for Steve Mills, what a brave guy. It's a bit pedantic to say it but the thing that ended his career was a broken pelvis caused in a car crash at the Railway Station Roundabout in Fareham in 1975.

The leukaemia struck in the mid-80s.

I bet many of us were at his testimonial in about 1988.

Sainty saint saint says...
5:11pm Thu 11 Oct 12

It never ceases to amaze me how people are STILL responding to Tebourba's posts. Can't you tell he just tries different tactics to get a rise from people until one is forthcoming?

Classic trolling behaviour. Just ignore him and he'll get bored, I promise.

TEBOURBA says...
5:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12

I agree with snebs' excellent observation, he's hit the nail on the head.
Despite all the attacks on my loyalties and questions over my parentage, I remain a firm supporter of NA and wish him a long a successful career at SMS.
NA is obviously finding it more difficult in the PL and I believe that an "old head" with PL experience whom he can turn to for advice would benefit NA, NC and the Club.
After years of supporting the Saints, I can see it, why can't NC?
Maybe his ego won't allow him to do this as he gets a bigger fix from sacking those beneath him!

slugger says...
6:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12

speculation is excactly that ! .......... nobody is superior or inferior to me (except skates , they're inferior to every thing).

warrens 76 says...
6:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The last words my Dad said to me were
"you selfish boy"
I am now a fishmonger...
What's the price of skate at the moment?
Skate if source from the South West will run about £15 a kilo....if you are prepared to risk it from the eastern solent it's 0.05p on the pound!

warrens 76 says...
6:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
did you know the goalie for porpoisemouth in that final was the grandad of the future SAINTS and ENGLAND UNDER 23 full back, STEVE MILLS who would have gone on to play for the full England team if he hadn't have been struck down by a career ending illness.
I think you will find it was a life ending illness.

saintand266 says...
6:24pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Is it just me or would Tebourba make a great character in a comedy sketch show with his classic sayings "Im considerably more intelligent than you cretins , when I was a high flyer in the realms of big business and that old classic "remember you heard it here first" .

warrens 76 says...
6:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

saintand266 wrote:
Is it just me or would Tebourba make a great character in a comedy sketch show with his classic sayings "Im considerably more intelligent than you cretins , when I was a high flyer in the realms of big business and that old classic "remember you heard it here first" .
Tebourba "You ain't see him right".

Confucious says...
6:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?
I had wondered what that was dangling around his neck. I had assumed it was a bit of flesh from yet another of mother's misguided (and somewhat misdirected) squirrel hunts.

At least I now know his nervousness is only partly down to the pellet gun.
Interesting that your mum has a pellet gun - and Seed of course has at least one shotgun. A bit galling really.

I've been having loads of psychiatric therapy this year. It wasn't required, but I got loads of psychiatric gift vouchers which all my family and friends clubbed together to get me for Christmas.

What I actually wanted was a rack & pinnion drawn crossbow.

Crossley Place Saint says...
7:07pm Thu 11 Oct 12

His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?
I had wondered what that was dangling around his neck. I had assumed it was a bit of flesh from yet another of mother's misguided (and somewhat misdirected) squirrel hunts.

At least I now know his nervousness is only partly down to the pellet gun.
Interesting that your mum has a pellet gun - and Seed of course has at least one shotgun. A bit galling really.

I've been having loads of psychiatric therapy this year. It wasn't required, but I got loads of psychiatric gift vouchers which all my family and friends clubbed together to get me for Christmas.

What I actually wanted was a rack & pinnion drawn crossbow.
My weapons are fear and surprise.....

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs wrote:
I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:26pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Never ceases to amaze me that when faced with a far superior intellect how many people resort to inane verbal abuse.
Says a lot more about them, than it does me, but then I I don't for one minute believe they would understand this response.
Well if I come up against someone of that ilk I will try not to abuse them, do you know of any?

saintshorse101 says...
7:27pm Thu 11 Oct 12

saintand266 wrote:
Is it just me or would Tebourba make a great character in a comedy sketch show with his classic sayings "Im considerably more intelligent than you cretins , when I was a high flyer in the realms of big business and that old classic "remember you heard it here first" .
i know, he swaps between them each day! its sad really. just another troll trying to get a rise out of honest and genuine saints fans.
you can tell he is a troll because when asked about his intellect and qualifications on many many occasions he disappears, only to come back later with another nugget of nothingness. all his facts and things he `remembers` are infomation that is easy to obtain from the net.
i will no longer respond to the boooorer and wonder what he would do if we all did that. though i understand why fans do get annoyed with this WUM.

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how people are STILL responding to Tebourba's posts. Can't you tell he just tries different tactics to get a rise from people until one is forthcoming?

Classic trolling behaviour. Just ignore him and he'll get bored, I promise.
I apologise, I just cannot resist pitting my feeble mind against his superior intellect!

TEBOURBA says...
7:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Tebourba - 1 Saintshorse 101 - 0
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:33pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Tebourba - 1 Saintshorse 101 - 0
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!
Idiotic post score?

mack chinnon says...
7:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
With the two week boring lay off due to the Internationals there isn't much debate about the Saints.
There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in this column, contributors either think that NC is infallible, can walk to the Isle of Wight and turn water in to wine, or like me, think he has no respect for his customers or his employees and at the first sign of a major problem will show a clean pair of heels.
Working most of my life in the financial sector of the City of London it has been my privilege to meet many Chairmen and CEO's of Billion $ International Companies that make SFC Ltd look like a market stall.
To a man (or woman) I haven't met any who didn't genuinely care for their customers and their employees.
Unlike NC these men and women contributed the bacon to the English breakfast plate, not the egg.
Many Saints supporters (customers) have expressed a number of concerns, surely this 2 week layoff would be an ideal time for NC to come out of his bunker and give an exclusive interview to the excellent SDE, to address and hopefully allay the concerns and fears of his customers.
The vast majority of the Captains of Industry I have met, wouldn't require a second asking.
Will NC take up the challenge? --- I hope he does ---- but I doubt it!
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!
Yawn.

Snebs says...
7:53pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote: His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.
I remember those days well no skin left on my knees at all still got the marks. Could never figure out when the whtie line actually stopped, small swimming pools in the goal mouth. I played in goal for our works team and we played a match after a week of solid rain. The area was just soft mud and the ball came back at me from the other centre half, rather that race forward and catch it on the drop I decided to let it hit the mud first. Mistake!!!! it hit the only piece of hard ground that side of Woolston and bounced right over my head and in.

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Tebourba - 1 Saintshorse 101 - 0
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!
Tebourba - 1 snebs 1 surely not?

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:59pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Not a shred of Saints news in the Echo today.

However, I can reveal, exclusively, that if you cut the metal from an old 5 litre oil can and batter it into a conical shape and then attach it (wide end pointing down) to the leg of your bird table, it will stop squirrels from stealing all the bird food you put out this winter.
That is spankingly interesting. I'll inform my mum immediately; she's something of a hazzard with a pellet gun! Ask her neighbours; Short-arm Sharon, One-eyed Win, Nervous Nel and Butt-splattered Bertie.
Isn't Butt-splattered Bertie the one with the Jim'll Fix it badge?
I had wondered what that was dangling around his neck. I had assumed it was a bit of flesh from yet another of mother's misguided (and somewhat misdirected) squirrel hunts.

At least I now know his nervousness is only partly down to the pellet gun.
Interesting that your mum has a pellet gun - and Seed of course has at least one shotgun. A bit galling really.

I've been having loads of psychiatric therapy this year. It wasn't required, but I got loads of psychiatric gift vouchers which all my family and friends clubbed together to get me for Christmas.

What I actually wanted was a rack & pinnion drawn crossbow.
My weapons are fear and surprise.....
My weapons are fear and surprise and fanatical devotion to the Saints.

ghk230473 says...
8:05pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Snebs wrote:
I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.
That's because your tiny mind cannot accept fresh ideas and you are confused by which fence you should receive splinters from.

Snebs says...
8:06pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Snebs wrote: I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.
No I am not an old poster an old fan yes and still a current fan and yes I do think NA has done a brilliant job getting us into the Prem and for that he deserves all the plaudits received unreservedly. However I would much rather remember him for that than as the manager that took us back down. (Which he managed to do with one of his teams in the championship I believe) He is clearly struggling and results coupled with plainly wrong substitutions dont lie and dont forgive. The plain truth is we need to stop shipping goals and start grinding out results, not I think in Nigel's play book. So bring in Raffa or Glen Hoddle to help or replace him I don't mind. I mind that we look so ill equiped to cope in the Premier League. Before you all start screaming I am not a shareholder I am a fan of 55 years and have paid a considerable amount over the years to support the Saints. I dont have the right to dictate what happens at St Marys on or off the pitch but I do have the right to my opinion without malace or being rude or offensive. COYS forever

ghk230473 says...
8:09pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Osprey you are a wet weekend, with nothing of any relevance to post. You are a follower, a sheep, a social chameleon.
This is my last post with regards to you

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:11pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey you are a wet weekend, with nothing of any relevance to post. You are a follower, a sheep, a social chameleon.
This is my last post with regards to you
Promise?

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Snebs wrote: I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.
No I am not an old poster an old fan yes and still a current fan and yes I do think NA has done a brilliant job getting us into the Prem and for that he deserves all the plaudits received unreservedly. However I would much rather remember him for that than as the manager that took us back down. (Which he managed to do with one of his teams in the championship I believe) He is clearly struggling and results coupled with plainly wrong substitutions dont lie and dont forgive. The plain truth is we need to stop shipping goals and start grinding out results, not I think in Nigel's play book. So bring in Raffa or Glen Hoddle to help or replace him I don't mind. I mind that we look so ill equiped to cope in the Premier League. Before you all start screaming I am not a shareholder I am a fan of 55 years and have paid a considerable amount over the years to support the Saints. I dont have the right to dictate what happens at St Marys on or off the pitch but I do have the right to my opinion without malace or being rude or offensive. COYS forever
Shouldn't have doubted you especially with a knowledge of the Veracity, only victims would know that one.

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:13pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Snebs wrote:
I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.
That's because your tiny mind cannot accept fresh ideas and you are confused by which fence you should receive splinters from.
Read on.

TEBOURBA says...
8:30pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs is of the same generation as me.
I recall playing at the Veracity Ground, Mayfield Park, Green Lane Millbrook Rec.etc.
We have both seen some of the greatest players ever to pull on a Saints' shirt, (in my book none greater than Terry Paine).
We have seen the good, the bad and the ugly at the Dell and SMS.
I would much prefer NA to keep his job and if that means getting in some short term experienced help, then let's go for it, the cost of getting someone in, is miniscule compared with that of sacking NA and getting a replacement, or, heaven forbid, being relegated.
To me and no doubt snebs, it seems so basic, if it didn't work then what has been lost? --- next to nothing!
For some reason this idea seems to generate a lot of opposition and in my case abuse.
Why is is it that the wisdom of the few is often viewed as a threat by the masses?
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Snebs is of the same generation as me.
I recall playing at the Veracity Ground, Mayfield Park, Green Lane Millbrook Rec.etc.
We have both seen some of the greatest players ever to pull on a Saints' shirt, (in my book none greater than Terry Paine).
We have seen the good, the bad and the ugly at the Dell and SMS.
I would much prefer NA to keep his job and if that means getting in some short term experienced help, then let's go for it, the cost of getting someone in, is miniscule compared with that of sacking NA and getting a replacement, or, heaven forbid, being relegated.
To me and no doubt snebs, it seems so basic, if it didn't work then what has been lost? --- next to nothing!
For some reason this idea seems to generate a lot of opposition and in my case abuse.
Why is is it that the wisdom of the few is often viewed as a threat by the masses?
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well birds of a feather I suppose.

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Snebs wrote:
I would suggest that from his body language and change of message after the Fulham game Nigel is on notice. The team is not performing we lost two very important players in training incidents, one with a potentially career ending injury, other big buys are either not playing well or just plain are not playing. Looking at other teams that were relegated we are in a worst postion relative to them at this part of the season. We don't have many winnable games coming up and I would think if we don't get anything from the West Ham game then there will be changes. I have supported Saints through thick and thin for 55 years and always will be a supporter. I travelled 7,000 miles to see the Wigan game and plan on doing the same as often as I can. SFC is a privately owned business and as such NC has a duty to the owners to sustain the business and if that means bringing in a more experienced management team to maintian the EPL status then that is what he will have to do. My money is on Raffa B.
Why am I suspicious that this is an old poster with a new name, I must fight off this paranoia, that's what you get after a barrage from Thomas, GHK and Tebourba.
That's because your tiny mind cannot accept fresh ideas and you are confused by which fence you should receive splinters from.
By the way has Frank lost his job yet?

Snebs says...
8:55pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Yes I remember Terry Payne very well Johnny Sydenham ( I think that's how it is spelt) My uncle Reg was of the same generation and destined to be right wing for Saints until Grandad dragged him out and into an apprecticeship. I used to stand under the clock with my Nan at the Dell. Tony Knap was captain I think. As I said great credit to NA now please let's get someone in to help or replace him. It's the team that matters most not any one individual. My fav days were Micky Channon, Osgood, Alan Ball, Kev, exciting team to watch. I really enjoyed watching Strachan's team as well good slick passing well organized. COYS oh and I remember all those old parks as well as green park Mayfield park, weston Park, Itchen, Wildern, Peartree green....everynight after school until it got dark.

ghk230473 says...
8:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey you are a wet weekend, with nothing of any relevance to post. You are a follower, a sheep, a social chameleon.
This is my last post with regards to you
Promise?
Bha

TEBOURBA says...
9:03pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?

ghk230473 says...
9:18pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:30pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
Famous last words?

slugger says...
9:30pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
no mush ....... osprey is a supporter , a word you should wiki .

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:31pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
No.

Many of us must have seen DENIS (lazy me, I just didn't bother to check the spelling) during his days at The Dell.

My first ever game was circa 1970. We beat Manure 1-0 and Jimmy Gabriel scored. Denis was certainly playing that day.

I got to meet his wife some years later through work.

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:33pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Yes I do, but despite being a fish eater, I hate skate.

ghk230473 says...
9:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
Famous last words?
Bah bah

ghk230473 says...
9:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
no mush ....... osprey is a supporter , a word you should wiki .
Why's that

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:37pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
Famous last words?
Bah bah
Bha? dyslexic sheep, and it's you making all of the noise.

ghk230473 says...
9:38pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
Famous last words?
Bah bah
Bha? dyslexic sheep, and it's you making all of the noise.
Bahhhhh bahhhhhh

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:42pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Feed the Lamb and he will score.

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:44pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote: His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.
I remember those days well no skin left on my knees at all still got the marks. Could never figure out when the whtie line actually stopped, small swimming pools in the goal mouth. I played in goal for our works team and we played a match after a week of solid rain. The area was just soft mud and the ball came back at me from the other centre half, rather that race forward and catch it on the drop I decided to let it hit the mud first. Mistake!!!! it hit the only piece of hard ground that side of Woolston and bounced right over my head and in.
I used to play sunday mornings around the city, Veracity, the common, over in testwood I think, or out at Bishopstoke/Eastleig
h. The Veracity is the one I remember with the most horror. Solid as a rock most of the year, like a lake after a shower and covered with flint just waiting to pierce a falling kneecap. I was telling someone about it last weekend while watching big little Strassie play on something not much better.

I wonder who/what did the most damage, a tackle from one of those hardnut ex-Saints mentioned above or a jagged piece of flint at the Varacity Ground.

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:44pm Thu 11 Oct 12

It's a pity the Ram is out of it for a few weeks.

slugger says...
9:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Osprey quoting "birds of a feather" surely Osprey, despite our differences, you must see the funny side!?
Ironic when he's not a bird at all.......... He's a sheep! Funny side is pulling the wool over my eyes.
Bbah bah bahhhh
no mush ....... osprey is a supporter , a word you should wiki .
Why's that
because you ain't one ...... wiki it and you'll see what i mean .

OSPREYSAINT says...
10:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

We could do with another Alan Shearer

OSPREYSAINT says...
10:28pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Counting sheep has made me sleepy night all.

mack chinnon says...
10:51pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Snebs wrote:
Yes I remember Terry Payne very well Johnny Sydenham ( I think that's how it is spelt) My uncle Reg was of the same generation and destined to be right wing for Saints until Grandad dragged him out and into an apprecticeship. I used to stand under the clock with my Nan at the Dell. Tony Knap was captain I think. As I said great credit to NA now please let's get someone in to help or replace him. It's the team that matters most not any one individual. My fav days were Micky Channon, Osgood, Alan Ball, Kev, exciting team to watch. I really enjoyed watching Strachan's team as well good slick passing well organized. COYS oh and I remember all those old parks as well as green park Mayfield park, weston Park, Itchen, Wildern, Peartree green....everynight after school until it got dark.
Yawn,

Mick the Saint says...
11:24pm Thu 11 Oct 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
What about big Jim Magrath?

Rising_Son says...
1:34am Fri 12 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I genuinely remember him playing, but I couldn`t remember the spelling of his given name. I'm surprised you think it is the latter that is more important in deciding who is a true supporter.

saintshorse101 says...
1:44am Fri 12 Oct 12

why is it that the negative posters on here always resort to abuse? ghk is a prime example, look at the abuse hes given osprey tonight!, the booorer/uphimself also abuses saints fans, you are all plebs is a favorite of his! (never used the word until that tory did, thats a shock for such an intellegent poster!). why do you all resort to pathetic name calling? i can only think of 2 reasons,1 you arent very bright and are unable to articulate without foul language.
2 you are poopey fans on here as wums. my money is on no.2! oh calling you skates is not abuse or name calling as it is a common name used for poopey fans (all 5000 of them). dont be jealous of saints success, your team might hit the big time again one day, no wait what am i saying, channers is coming for you!

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:09am Fri 12 Oct 12

Mick the Saint wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
What about big Jim Magrath?
Ah yes the well known spelling error, lol John McGrath was another of my heroes, sadly he died on Christmas Day 1998 after a decent career, 168 games for the Saints and boy, was he a hard man and a cult figure at the Dell when we were in top flight.

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:12am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintshorse101 wrote:
why is it that the negative posters on here always resort to abuse? ghk is a prime example, look at the abuse hes given osprey tonight!, the booorer/uphimself also abuses saints fans, you are all plebs is a favorite of his! (never used the word until that tory did, thats a shock for such an intellegent poster!). why do you all resort to pathetic name calling? i can only think of 2 reasons,1 you arent very bright and are unable to articulate without foul language.
2 you are poopey fans on here as wums. my money is on no.2! oh calling you skates is not abuse or name calling as it is a common name used for poopey fans (all 5000 of them). dont be jealous of saints success, your team might hit the big time again one day, no wait what am i saying, channers is coming for you!
No worries, I laugh with them, and sometimes laugh at them, but they are part of the scene. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

SFCOLDBOY says...
9:30am Fri 12 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Having supported Saints for much longer than most of the contributors to this column have been alive, the hardest man ever to don a Saints' shirt was Bill Rochford who played at left back.
Bill would have left Jim Steele, Dennis Hollywood, Kirby, the Psycho ( I forget his name -- put it down to old age), Fisher and Golac quaking in their boots.
Bill Rochford won a FA Cup Winners Medal with Portsmouth FC in 1939.
did you know the goalie for porpoisemouth in that final was the grandad of the future SAINTS and ENGLAND UNDER 23 full back, STEVE MILLS who would have gone on to play for the full England team if he hadn't have been struck down by a career ending illness.
I've enjoyed reading about all the old players. I certainly can't go back as far as Bill Rochford or Cliff Huxford but they must have been hard if Dennis Hollywood and Brian O'Neill were not their equal.

As for Steve Mills, what a brave guy. It's a bit pedantic to say it but the thing that ended his career was a broken pelvis caused in a car crash at the Railway Station Roundabout in Fareham in 1975.

The leukaemia struck in the mid-80s.

I bet many of us were at his testimonial in about 1988.
I played against Cliff Huxford when he played for AC.Delco.
He was about 45.
He played centre half, I was centre forward.
I was eating grass the first ball nocked up to me and I still remember the little lights buzzing in my head.
The other memory of the same game was of John Sydenam who also played.
Our right back was completely kn@ckered at half time couldn't believe how quick he was, he was also in his 40,s
Happy memorys.
COYR.

SFCOLDBOY says...
9:42am Fri 12 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
No you are not I remember him well.I seem to recall that Mike Summerby(Man city winger) once said he was the hardest full back he had ever met.(Or words that mean the same thing).
I remember Denis put him into the crowd one game.
Denis was a bit tasty.
COYR

SFCOLDBOY says...
9:49am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.
I remember it well.You also had to look out for the numerous dog turds.

OSPREYSAINT says...
11:43am Fri 12 Oct 12

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.
I remember it well.You also had to look out for the numerous dog turds.
lol I remember them well and not all were from canines.

ghk230473 says...
1:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
why is it that the negative posters on here always resort to abuse? ghk is a prime example, look at the abuse hes given osprey tonight!, the booorer/uphimself also abuses saints fans, you are all plebs is a favorite of his! (never used the word until that tory did, thats a shock for such an intellegent poster!). why do you all resort to pathetic name calling? i can only think of 2 reasons,1 you arent very bright and are unable to articulate without foul language.
2 you are poopey fans on here as wums. my money is on no.2! oh calling you skates is not abuse or name calling as it is a common name used for poopey fans (all 5000 of them). dont be jealous of saints success, your team might hit the big time again one day, no wait what am i saying, channers is coming for you!
No worries, I laugh with them, and sometimes laugh at them, but they are part of the scene. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me.
Bhaaa

OSPREYSAINT says...
6:14pm Fri 12 Oct 12

That didn't hurt

ghk230473 says...
6:35pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
That didn't hurt
Bhaaaaa

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:22pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Nor did that, you may be for the chop soon.

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:18am Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
His name is spelled DENIS Hollywood. No true Saints supporter from the vintage years would forget that. Am I the only person on here who genuinely remembers seeing him play??
I hero worshipped him and based my own game on his, laughable I know, but those were the days and I never harmed anyone. Later it was mastery of the David Webb slide tackle that led to shredded knees on the Veracity pitch which doubled as gravel pit.
I remember it well.You also had to look out for the numerous dog turds.
lol I remember them well and not all were from canines.
Ha! Yep, those little 'extra' hazzards had escape my memory.

Not sure now if it was at the Varacity (think it was over in Millbrook) but one memorable game I played in we got hammered (17-0, I think). To be fair, our goalie was off sick and several of us took turns between the sticks.

The nearest we got was when I crossed and our centre forward headed the ball against the bar.

At one point, I must have ended up on my harris. I didn't notice the 'extra' I had slipped in until half time when, in the dressing room, someone asked who had f4rted.

On further inspection, we realised my boots and shorts were somewhat browner than at kick off.

So far as I know, unlike you, SFColdboy, I never got to play against any former greats, though.

Happy days!

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