West Ham 4 Saints 1
Another defeat looms today !!
Rumors of 532
We do need to null Carroll Jarvis and Nolan
Gazza Nath Jose Jos Yos Fox
JWP Spider SD
COME ON YOU HAMMERS!!!!
Afternoon all. Be nice to get a result at the Boleyn ground today, especially as it will shut up all those mouthy Hammers fans on the various sites they inhabit who haven't got over the results from the equivalent fixtures last season. A festering sense of injustice seems to permeate all their ramblings, so a tasty hat-trick from Sir Ricky this afternoon would be well entertaining, and probably send one or two of them over the edge! Notwithstanding of course, that the three points up for grabs today will come in very handy. COYR!!
Oh dear. You again. Why are you wasting your money on the internet when you could be helping to fund your fan-led acquisition of the bestest supported club in the whole wide world?
Come on Shrewsbury.
mack chinnon wrote…
If it sounds like a skunt and smells like a skunt, chances are it will be a poor insecure skunt.
PTID ask skunt141 if that is the number that the Blue FEW has been reduced to?
Clyne LB, Maya RB?
Why is Lambert on the bench???
Tough game as usual as we all know there are no easy games at this level (since Poopeys demise).
Keep the Pony Tailed Geordie quiet and we can get something out of this game.
Tin hats all round, There has not been a philosophy of aerial bombardment hoofing like Big Sam’s since the Blitzkrieg.
can't be 442, Yoshida clearly can not play full back..... Guly in for Sir Rickie !? That is obviously a typo....
If Rickie has been taken off in the last couple of games because he's knackered, I suppose it makes sense to have him on the bench bring him on for the 2nd half. It also almost worked at ManCity.
well lambo sub guly starting thats a easy 3 point for us today
Today's line-up highlights our failures in the transfer market. Just can't see anything other than another away day struggle.
Well we'll soon see! In Nigel we trust and all that. Jay Rod certainly needs to stamp his mark today.
I suppose with Fox missing, NA had to put someone in the side for the "fans" to focus their hatred on.
Cue Guly do Prado.
Is Yoshida left footed??? If so he may make a better left back than he did right back against Fulham. Can understand him being picked ahead of Ben Reeves, as he gives us more height at the back for the hoof ball tactics.
Good luck to them all and hope they give a performance to make us proud.
MGRA says, "Guly in for Sir Rickie !? That is obviously a typo...."
You are obviously wrong about this. Should we trust anything you say?
Costa Baz wrote…
There is no way we are playing 4 at the back surely with that line-up... Surely if Guly starts then he is playing 5-3-2
Costa Baz wrote…
Costa Baz wrote…
But who would be our left back?
Would be happy with a clean sheet today but can't see it.
A 3-2 defeat I fear but hope for a 2-3 win!
Any streams for the game?
Where the hell has Gazza gone? He made an excellent save against Fulham. I actually rate him. It's our defense that's worrying. Hardly the best time to be chucking on a new keeper. This team selection looks pretty awful to be honest but i guess we didn't sign enough players.
Seems like a 3-5-2 formation....Lambert cant be tired after International break
Costa Baz wrote…
more 3-5-2 than 5-3-2 then I guess... Punch can hang wide on the left... Guly should be in his element today if that is the case,,, if he does not shine today he won't get a better chance to showcase his skills...
I was feeling optimstic as WH look suspect against quality sides and those with pace - will Mayuka get a chance??
Feel totally deflated looking at that team sheet though, evetyone's talking about Lambert .................exc
ept NA!! :(
st bevois wrote…
having watched the West Ham v QPR game I think 3 centre halves makes sense. We have the quality to break from the middle and are rubbish at keeping the ball in the middle.... so the formation is not a problem for me, Guly for Sir Rickie is brave though..... If tho as SKY just reported that its a 4-4-2 formation then we are toast I fear....Yosh ain't no full back...
Dont get the team selection..Mayuka and Lambert must start !! In Nigel we trust but surely we must get atleast a point..wrong result Nigels days have got to be numbered..COYyellows !!
Blimey, don’t like Boruc’s early touch in moving the ball out, hope that’s only down to early nerves
Saints are moving the ball round sweetly like a proper Prem team
does anyone know of any live feeds today?
Come on you Saints!!!
Need to make this pressure count!
J-Rod lining one up....
What is Kat Moon up to while all the boys are at the footy? ..... Is she blowing bubbles?
coolsportz.tv stream 13 has game on..
With 80% pass completion by Saints and the cockneys beginning to grumble I think we might be in for some good news when the super sub arrives in the second half!!
Fingers crossed COYR!!
Good stat. The ball retention is good and we look solid.
I’m 90% sure I need the loo before half time, but I will show the same the determination as our boys in Yellow.
Very good 1st half... but we must put Lambert on!
Watching in the US via foxsoccer2go.com Only one team in it. Hoiveld had awesome half. Who would have guessed?
Ha I don't pay for my Internet connection because I work for the company that provides it.
Cos he is fat and ****
Hooiveld completely shut down Andy Carroll. Davis fantastic too.
I reckon it's because he's coming on in the second half to shake up the hoofers defence.
Norwegian Saint wrote…
I'm pretty certain that will be in the plan.
Good for you, School release part time experience really has improved since my day
What a devoted fan of your team you must be to be on here while your team is playing at home. Even if you're on your mobile, shouldn't you be concentrating on your own game?
Decent first half - but how much was it our containing West Ham and them having no answer but to lump it to Carroll?
Kiss of death but I think we might sneak something this afetrnoon!
Poopey Till I'm Dull!!!!
fcuking ingenius these skunts they can now steal broadband connections
Because Nige reckons he deserves to be in the 18-man squad just like the other 17 players. Simple :)
Portsmouth Terminally In Decline
No more Polish keepers thankyou
Poor goalkeeping! All the way in from a 40yard free kick!
Oh dear.... wheels are coming off the bus...
Oh dearie me.
Shambolic defending, what a shame
I blame Fox
Yoshida left back? Adkins please! It's a joke now
After being deflated by the team sheet I felt reasonably good after the first half..............do
n't know what we put in the tea :(
I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air, they fly so high they reach the sky and like my dreams they fade and die, fortunes always hiding I looked everywhere I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air.... Utd Utd Utd
After 2 weeks of non stress, here we are again. Sorry, manager, team, players whoever... Sort it out I'm getting bored with this.
no point gettnig lambo on now game over
The wheels on the bus have all come off, all come off all come off, the wheels on the bus have all come off all season long. Play up Pompey Pompey at up
Quite right skunt, your dreams faded and died a long time ago
See Pompey one up that's how to score and win play up pompey
Dear Mr Adkins
Could you please bring on the best striker in the premiership please.
Before we go 3-0 down.
Blimey! I needed to move my PC and by the time I had logged back on, two goals had gone in, all the good work prematch, selecting what seemed to be a working formation and 'winning' the first half has been undone and guess what? Back come the negs with their 'game over', too late for Lambo' 'blame the manager' rubbish. Get a life and ffs GET BEHIND OUR TEAM.
So why are you not there, apparently they're not quite dead ..... yet
Im No Manager but isnt it time to get reconized striker on !!!!!
Pompey two up now what a great weekend this is going to be
...... against Shrewsbury.
You're more interested in the Saints than the Skates, shameful!
Never been laid in your life, enjoy your weekend
Some people will be saying isn't time to bring on a recognised Manager.
get in their
get in there
63 mins, praise Lallana, praise the Lord, send the skunts to Purgatory
This is confirmed for me. Pathetic!
oh dear. shoot ourselves in foot again.
Come on you hammers!!!! Do you know you have now conceded 23 goals that is a joint record ha ha ha ha
Darn... should be game over now, I like Nigel but every game we lose is another nail in his coffin... and there are a few now.
Why would Fonte do that? kamikaze.
When is Tandani Lee back
I really am sorry but if we blow it today and keep giving away such soft goals, equalling a premiership record as you'll all know by now, then we need major surgery.
And by that I mean, very very sadly, a new management team that can keep us in the premiership.
I no longer believe Nigel knows enough to sort it out.
Tragically, after all he's done for us, he has to go and we need a premiership expert.
Well like I said up the thread... Yosh ain't no full back... Sir Rickie warming the bench, Guly still on,,,,, time for a Guly hat trick !!
Which plastic is Carroll made of? It can't be up to European standards. He seemed incapable of staying on his feet even when the wind was hardly blowing.
And you are the only virgin to be knocked back by Kat Slater, 0 shags :(.
Still, talking of records, congrats on the multiple administrations record
When will we learn that we cannot, just cannot keep giving soooooooooooooo many goals away - this is crazy!
Ha ha ha ha this gets better and better and now you have broken the record for most goals conceded priceless!!!!!
Is this Adkins last game?
Could Harry be back?
Will we survive?
We we stop letting goals in?!
Sorry, but being beaten this bad by a relegation fighting team is an embarrassment.
Too early to say Goodbye to the Premiership but GOD something has to change FAST!
The season is only over when the Fat Lady sings, not when the fat skunt sings I’ve got a smaller insecure peni$ than you!!!
Sorry to say but this is now becoming embarrassing. Cannot see any other solution than a change of Management.
Goodbye Nige....tactics all wrong yet again...afraid NC won't let this carry on...Guly starting for Lambert?? WTF....
I understand your frustration but, from what I have seen, what bit of it can you blame on the managerial team?
Poor defending like that can't be 'unmanaged'. He got the first half right - with brave team selections and all was undone by hopeless defending.
At 2-1, we were looking for an equaliser and were far and away the better side ...... then Fonte turns from hero to villain. Do you think Nigel 'trained' him to do a stupid handball like that?
Our football is can be so pretty unfortunately too many times all the control and movement amounts in the end to pretty pathetic...
Do I ever want an "Mr All yer dice" style, no, neither is our ineffectiveness in the last 3rd what I want either...what do we do??
Sorry guys, I am getting off Nige's bus. We need a change because he isn't prepared to.
Substitutions - but no change in shape - any plan B NA??
u all on here still think nigels the man? sacked in the morning please
We all have to watch out for Shunts posing as well meaning fans, however WTF indeed...I can see the idea of saving his legs IF we had high calibre on instead...this is ****..
same old crap gifting goals away.
guly in for lambert,
nigel has lost the plot, he out of his depth now.
due management needed and fast,
expect nigel to get sacked.
harry or hoddle please
soft goals 1/2 a point a game average. more pionts chucked away in my opinion
I still think someone else is picking the team.... there is no way Nigel with a free hand would A. offer Guly a two year contract and B. start him ahead of Sir Rickie..... surely..... !?
Italian John... I am sorry to agree.
Terrible 45 mins, just terrible.
Adkins just has to go.
4 goals v an average West Ham side.
I don't slag off Guly often but for God sake.... why oh why did we give Sharpe away to keep that League 1 Brazillian???!!!
Thank you but goodnight Nigel
stick ur bubbles up your arse
Guess what we 3-1 up get in there it is going to be a brilliant weekend play up pompey
hates the skates wrote…
I think tonight would be better, cant leave Lambert out,
Some very clumsy defending, and we also seem to have lost the knack of scoring. Pity,because we play some pretty decent football.
Agent arry is ready and waiting to take you down again ha ha ha
nigel to be sacked in morning please,
expect experienced manager to come in,
even harry might do a job
Just a thought, with Rickie on the bench, we lost that bit 2-1. With him on the pitch, we lost that bit 2-0.
I'd be starting with Rickie, too, but we have a squad and I'm miffed that so many 'supporters' are so quick to praise certain players and get at certain others when it's far more complicated than that.
dug out this quote from a very famous manager : "formations are for the talk in the pub, you pick your best 11 players, and the formation will be decided for you, the job is no more complicated than that, we are vastly overpaid"
Well another frustrating day in the Premier League.
Waiting for the Guly bashers to blame him for the goals! OK at fault for the first but Yoshida sold short then robbed - did he get anywhere near it? The second no excuse, get back into the game and then a stupid penalty. By then we had given up!
Why blame Adkins? It's the defence - and lack of protection. The midfield did a good job in the first half but fell well short in the second.
Kiss of death was right - but it would just be nice to play our best team for once and pick from a full squad. How long before Lee and Cork get back?
As for those who want Adkins head - shame on you...
If relegation is going to be our fate, I'd prefer to go down with NA.
Another Stains game with 5 goals!! Cementing your reputation as the most "entertaining" side to watch in the whole of Europe!!
Don't come out with your cliches tonight Nigel about going back to the training ground.You have had two weeks and you still cannot get it right.
I think we can now identify that you are out of of your depth in the premiership and you are not starting with the right winning line up if we have one.
I am not picking on Guly but please tell me what his contribution to this team.
Once again poor tactics and hammered by a side that will not worry the top ten in this div.
Time is rapidly running out for Nigel to adapt to this league.
Strasbourg Saint wrote…
you can't compare the 2-1 to the 2-0 as goals lead to goals etc etc head drop.... you know the score. The Manure game showed me that Nige is not up to this, or someone else is pulling the strings...We either accept we went up a year early and let him have the experience he needs as we drop down OR we really need someone who A. picks the team themselves and B. knows his best 11 players.
I never liked the excuses about we had played the 3best teams in the league, they were not on top form anyway..
Pretty football, pretty hopeless...never want Mr "All yer dice's" style..but I want a result FFS..
Unlocking teams defence is the name of the game we look nice but when the killer instinct is required...zip..
... as for the defence, less said the better.
Costa Baz wrote…
Harry? Really? Now post something worth considering.
I'm off to lighten up. I've read enough b0ll0cks!
A game we should have won. I never thought I would bash NA but it is the obvious that I am stating. I thought that Rickie should have come on at halftime and a 4-4-2 would have destroyed that sorry lot.
Nigel - P1SS-POOR tactics.
I thought the first half was quality, we controlled possession, Jos had Carroll in his back pocket.
Second half, before you could say Leeds and Poopey are scum, poor old Nigel was on the road to no recovery.
Do we blame him for a defensive meltdown in individual errors, that to me is harsh.
What is clear to me is that we do not have a squad of defensive players that as a unit are producing the goods to keep us in the prem and the manager has to be accountable for that.
What can you do? ...... Keep supporting your team and keep the faith.
I’ve enjoyed League One, Championship and the Prem (both times) ...... It’s not life and death, it’s only footy ...... COYR
Trust in Nigel ,a top 6 place is still possible.
I heard you are forever blowing something but it sure ain't bubbles.......more like blowing your fathers wiener if you ask me!
Well, I hope NC has a bit more faith than many of the posters on here.
Fortunately, I suspect he has, so I expect him to keep NA in place for a good while yet, because he's not as short sighted as you lot.
We're not in the relegation zone (and whatever excuses you all give for why everyone else is in the zone unfairly, that's just the truth) so I don't see it happening yet.
I'm going to have to give this site a miss for a week or two as I don't think I can bear to hear the drivel that will be posted on here over the next few days.
All those calling for Adkins to be sacked, did he back Boruc make a poor decision for the first goal? NO. Did he make Yoshida flick his leg and not attack the ball from a Guly pass? NO. Did he make Jonte foul Carroll for the pen? NO. Once the players cross that white line it's up to them to perform. Yes he picks the team but he can't control them on the pitch
I am effin mad at this..still would keep Nigel, in the words of the song, "everyone's gotta learn sometime".
Shame on us? Rubbish! We want the best for our team not to sit and watch our team make the same mistakes week after week. If you want to stick with him fair enough but sorry dude you're not speaking for all of us.
Strasbourg Saint wrote…
Yes, but you know EVERYTHING, whereas I'm not even worthy of responding to you, let alone arguing with you.
Guly added no threat whatsoever.... watch the game again and tell me when he ran into the box and created a chance ? Yosh is NOT a full back , thats obvious... Football sometimes appears more complicated than it needs to but my neighbour at 2:55pm said to me "Lambo is on the bench, Guly is starting..... I just turned off the radio and am finally about to get round to tidying up the garden".
The bottom line is you tried and failed in the premier league Nigel.
You will always be liked for getting us there but 4 goals against a poor team is not good enough.
Your bus ride was fun but now we need a limo not a tractor.
Good luck with Scunthorpe again, I really do hope all the best but do the right thing.
Also... please can we swap Guly with Billy?
Everyone calm down. Yeah the defending is shambolic and I can't really comprehend what NA is thinking with Guly on instead of Lambert but at least we have won a match this season. QPR and Reading haven't. Look at our team and there is only a little quality in certain areas. Davis and Spider worked their socks off in midfield today. I still can't get over the fact that we only bought one centre back for 2m in the summer. No left back and no wingers. I think that when we get Gaston back we'll be a much better team offensively but I can't see past this shoddy defense. Sacking NA isn't going to achieve anything. You lot asking for Harry back have some nerve! He took us down before, he'd do it again.
I really gotta say....Adkins really has to get the F*** outta Dodge now though!
He played his part getting us up here & I think we are all grateful but at this rate he is gonna take us back down
I am no expert but surely we need a more competent manager now & one that doesn't make strange team decisions that even Jo Public doubts :(
Sorry Nigel, please close the door on your way out!
I hate to say it but I think it's time for Nigel to go. He's done wonders but if we are to stay in this league we need someone who knows what they're doing. How can you not start with Rickie and play the only Brazilian known to man who can't play football? We are going down at this rate.
Strasbourg Saint wrote…
its nice to know everything. I even know that Beer from Strasbourg is vastly underated by the English.
This and what Yorkie said. Now I'm out of here before some WUM really p!ss€s me off.
I don't want to see NA get fired but I think people will run out of patience soon. I think huddle would be the person I would get in, please not arry.
im getting annoyed with people saying keep the faith,
its too late for that,
change manager please
warrens 76 wrote…
I may be a 'shunt' (whatever that is) but for someone who's had a season ticket for 20+ years at my home town club and travels over 150 miles to every home game, plus the odd away game.....wanted to express my concern....Nige, who is a top bloke, has been brilliant in getting us up 2 seasons in a row, but the PL is a different 'ball' game completely - we need a tactician with possible PL experience who can master the back four and is able to instill a confidence and control to the players - especially in the final quarter of games....dare I Roberto Martinez....
I like your style, even in the face of another good performance yet a cr@p scoreline we believe. Top 6 may be too optimistic even for me, but I do believe mid table is a cert......Nige may have to resort to a 5-4-1 from here on in to achieve this though?
warrens 76 wrote…
Roberto Martinez? You having a laugh? Why would he swap Wigan for Saints? Liverpool tried to hire him a while back and he didn't want to leave Wigan. Thanks for making me chuckle.
Adkins. Premier league is out of your league. Sorry but you don't have a clue. A system that is suicidal, 16 goals conceded in 4 away games. How is that entertaining, first and foremost for a Saints fan ? The system makes the defenders look totally inept.
Am I looking for Adkins to be replaced ? Well...he is testing my patience. Playing Gully with Our leading goal scorer Lambert on the bench ? Does Van Persie start on the bench ?
its good to keep faith. but we now need 3 points from 6 ( excluding ) the top four games which is a tall order..... We have had 3 keepers in 8 games. We are playing centre halves in full back positions, our best player is starting on the bench, we are loosing games on substitutions.... the list goes on. NA is making mistakes and if we stick with him we will go down, thats pretty obvious but maybe thats not a reason to remove him. I am not calling for his head.... but we have to be realistic about what can be achieved while he learns his trade.
The only reason Harry took us down is because Rupert Lowe would not let him control the team in the way he wanted, and would not let him bring in the players he wanted. On top of that Clive Woodward was put into the mix and Harry could not work with him.
Given the freedom Harry would be a great manager for the club and a few wins with him would turn around the majority of fans perceptions of him
But he continues to play our team without sorting our defence out. Who's responsible for that?
Strasbourg Saint wrote…
...... AND FINALLY
...... which Strasbourg beer are you talking about? If, as is likely, you only know Kronenbourg, you know cr4p all about Strasbourg beer and are wrong in your point of view that Strasbourg beer is vastly underated by the English. Kronenbourg beer is, to quote Eric Idle, like making love in a canoe - FACT!
Yeah but what exactly can Harry do with this team? We have Championship defenders at best. It's not like Harry would step in and instantly sort everything out. We went for attacking talent in the summer and now it is costing us dear. In any case, I doubt Harry would get on very well with our chairman.
Shame on you Vellity, I expect more from all Saints fans and particularly the likes of you.
Turn up tomorrow and meet us all and discuss further, as we are all Saints Fans .... apart from the occasional skunt, and let's face it they're fun and slightly simple in a jelly wobble type of way.
Onwards and upwards, PRIDE OF THE SOUTH!!!!!
Strasbourg Saint wrote…
no the brewery I went to was not that one and UK 1664 is not even the same beer at they sell in France !? you know that surely !?
well my 2p worth we were not good in the first half west ham didn't turn up untill half time but we had control except the last 3rd.second half well laughable still think no one better out there than adkins .we need 40 points to stay up 28 home 12 away still possible if full fit squad
I just got home after a very good day out, I switch on and my day is totally ruined, yes Skates won, and the Saints result didn't help either. Too son to say much, no doubt it will all be said, first impression? Daft Team selection, daft set up, daft substitutions. It will just need Norwich to get a result and I will get very moribund.
Well he is a good motivator so that may reinstate confidence into the team, failing that an assistant manager who knows something about premiership management, unlike that moron Crosby (funnily enough he used to be a defender so all his credibility is gone in my books)
OMG Osprey that's a bit negative!! You realized now things aren't right?
The stripes wrote…
What do you expect him to do? he doesn't control what a player does on the pitch and i'm 100% sure he is doing everything in his power to change things on the training ground but in the match he can't control Fonte and stop he making foul for the pen, thats all on Fonte . Yes he could drop Fonte and Jos but who are you going to bring in?
I cant help feeling time is fast running out for NA. Personally I would like to see him stay but I think the Don will off him, if we are going get Pep Guardiola or Mourinho then fair dos, if not then welcome to the bad old days of the revolving managers door, and as for redcrap, take us down and FO back up the M27 redcrap, really.
I doubt our Chairman gets on with our Chairman....Mrs Miggin's the club stalwart cleaner is still picking glass out of the carpet from when his reflection appeared to question his judgement on a side parting...
NC insisted it was on the left, reflection said it was on the right..what a palaver..
Only thing they agreed upon was should they be Pompey should they be Saints..Mrs Miggins informed both of them in no uncertain's what she thought.
I would rather have a poor tactician running the team than a rubber-faced crook who cant spel anyfink proper
.... fair enough I suppose if you want to queue for less time to get a beer and a pie because many fans who are not season ticket holders and "try" to get to as many games as possible will stop "trying" at a stoke.
Huddle as in cuddle or Hoddle as in Doddle...won't ave em in the ouse..
Dare I ask? What happened to Fox today? I thought he played pretty well against Fulham.
hee hee hee HAR HAR HAR
what a terriffic weekend to be had.
sorry has to done, be rude not to.
you would do the same!!
No - but who changed and put out his third goalkeeper in less than 10 games (and not through any injury either)(and why drop gaz in the first place....to justify the signing?) Who played a CB at full back who looked like a fish out of water in that position 2 weeks ago (sorry is 2 weeks not long enough to prepare) Who left is top striker on the bench again (how wil he get march fit without game time) - how many other managers are doing that - oh that bloke at Villa with Bent - doing well also aren't they?
The stripes wrote…
You are right that the players are responsible on the pitch but its Adkins fault we have many of these players. They aren't up to playing in this division. Adkins should have sorted the defence out with more competition and better players for a start. That IS Adkins fault.
Mush On The Beach wrote…
you're right mush. we lost today, time to move on and enjoy our other sport,
taking the pi55 out of the skunts
what they don't seem to understand is chainrai was the prefered bidder until the F.L. said no and the truss is the last chance of the creditors getting any money due, the administrator trevor birch would have pushed the truss months ago if he had thought they would succeed.
so the truss is not the preferred bidder but the last resort.
Let's be clear about this. Harry Redcrap can't do sh*t without a sack full of money and even then can't guarantee succes (spurs). Don't be surprised if a foreign manager comes in if NC decides enough is enough and gives NA his marching orders.
Dave Brown wrote…
We can now identify that you are out of your depth at this forum.
Well no surprise, what defenders did we bid for in the summer?, totally embarassing, love Nigel, but one more game to sort it out!!!!!!!!!
Good to see Billy sharp is on top form.
Guly needs a drink (back in Brazil)
J-Rod was just awful (£7m!)
Punchy was lost without Rickie
Borac was average at best
Clyne was off the pace
Losing to a very average team by 4 goals has to be the final straw!
That first half possession with Rickie would have given us a half time lead.
Rickie will not be happy... and we don't want to pee him off or Liverpool will come in for him.
Lets get in Gordon Strachan now before it's to late. Lambert on the bench, complete joke as for Guly he shouldn't be in the first team.
I expect him to step aside. I read an article a while ago on here and Nigel said he wouldn't change our style of play. That said it all. he was right, our style of play hasn't changed... our defence is still dire. surely there's a way to train these people? Yes you're right he doesn't have control of the players once they are on the pitch but he does have control who is on it and when. What about leaving Lambert on the bench? what about the past crazy subs? Who made them? Who takes responsibility for them? Sorry you're points are wearing as thin as Nigel's efforts to change the way we play.
The fan base needs to expand with decent ticketing prices while we are still in Prem...
Everything needs to be viewed from a perspective of "experiance" Lawrie took us down FFS...
Changing manger will solve absolutely nothing, experiance will, NA has his work cut out...but let everyone be clear he is not a loser his mentality is as a winner...
We have had two stunning xmas presents year on year and because grandma cannot quite afford one this year we throw our toy's out the pram...let's grow up, as one!
One of the biggest mistakes Nigel did, how could he get the 6'3'' Brazillian walkabout Guly muddled up with caucasian 5'6'' Goalscoring Sharp?
True Saints fan here.
NA team selection was terrible
Where was Luke Shaw
Why play Guly and Rod and not Adam and Rickie up front
Goalkeeper was poor
Defence was useless
Midfield was dominated
Forwards no idea
NA has until the England v Sweden game or he is toast
May be the rise was just to quick
I would rather go down to the fourth division than sack Nige.
I think the "we're gonna score one more than u" formula isn't working for us at all this season I am gobsmacked we have spent 19 million firstly lol and secondly on 2 players Ramirez who has the Darren Anderton tag already and mr Rodriguez who looks out of his depth in the prem we HAVE to strengthen our defence in January no question or our time in the prem will be over by February
Whilst accepting your argument that once on the pitch NA has no control over players' actions but game in and game out I consistently read posts that negatively comment on NA's team selection and substitutions and they are directly NA's responsibility. If, as some posts suggest, team selection is really down to NC then NA's position is untenable and under these circumstances should resign before being sacked to preserve his reputation. If team selection is purely down to NA then he has to turn things round very quickly. My real concern at the moment is whether-or-not the players themselves still have confidence.If not then NA simply has to go.
What a stupid thing to say.
He has to go stop defending him, this has to stop. Gordon Strachan or Kenny Dalglish NOW!!
Yea I went at half time to finish that pie and mash off followed by a few jellied fish .Thats what the Irons had at half time us we are a 45 min team totally clueless!
Well if you think I am out of my depth and support today's tactics and the tactics against Fulham you will be watching lower league football next season with us all if you are a supporter.
Nigel needs help he sounded a broken man when being interviewed on Solent.
to justify the siging? I have seen a lot of Saints fans on here and other sites calling for Boruc to start every game since he started (not saying your one of them), can't have it both ways, Lose Lose situation for the manager there. Yes Yoshida isn't a full back and can't play there but no one wants Fox at LB.. so give Shaw a go? obviuosly NA doesn't think he is up to it yet, and he has shown that he isn't scared to play one of the youngsters, so that must be the only reason. who should play LB then? regardless if he is our highest scorer or not no manager will start a player who is not match fit as it is a waste of time. Jack Wilshere is on the bench as he is not match fit. I no he has been out for a long time but it is the same principal
Oh yes did we do the catering at half time roll fillers!
Who has to stop defending whom?
Harry or Glenda whats your choice!
More to the point, we have to start defending better.
The stripes wrote…
Is all good saying he should have brought more players but if a club doesn't want to sell or a player doesn't want to come to us, it doesn't matter how much we offer them a week they aren't going to come. Do you think Adkins didn't try and sign over CB?
Guilty as charged, still looking for positives and not seeing many, Sharp scored today, but Norwich are one up, Bournemouth won today, I won £3-00 on the lottery, Frankel won yet again, I had a good day out, not all bad.
Problem about sacking NA is that he would be the best bloke to get us back up again if we went down.
Fulham was a dominant performance in the first half, should have been up 3-0 at halftime. How would it be Adkind fault that Ricky cant put away great chances.
Changing the way we play doesn't stop our defenders making those mistakes. Yes he controls who is on the pitch but we don't have many plays to pick from in defence. Who would you play in defence then? Yes Lambert decision is a weird one on the face of it but we havn't been at training this week, he could of picked up a knock so not fit enough or been ill this week?? i do admitt he has made a few bad substitions but not everyone is perfect
Maybe he could use a hand with the tactics, might be trying too hard?
Quite right skunt,
but I think you are poorly plagiarizing David Bowie as the Laughing Gnome:
Ha ha ha, hee hee hee
I'm a laughing skunt and you can't catch me ....
Said the lauging blue skunt Gnome (skint arab, Russian gun smuggler, Channers, PST, ...etc)
Tax Office and Football League disagree , -10 points and liquidization .....
I don't Harry anywhere near St Mary's.
We all are grateful for what Nigel and the team have done.We all want him to succeed. The fact is (with no sentiment) that we only just made automatic promotion by skin of our teeth.We were starting to fall a part at the back late on in the season(ie Blackpool away Reading at home) we needed quality signings at the back early on (ie during the close seasons)who is responsible?Not Nigel he was always saying the backroom staff are working hard to sign players.But that was after the summer ended.Too late!
We also have a manger who is honest likeable and loved by the fans but does seem that he doesn't know what to do make it improve!
Changing a manager now would make things worse.He needs help maybe to bring another experienced assitant might help.
The players must also stand up to be counted.
The bottom line is we need a system that is not going to leak goals and 4 3 3 is not working.
Will NC wait much longer? In my opinion I think Nigels days are numbered not that I would be happy about it as I think it would mean going back to drawing board with a new man with new ideas for the team to take on board. Nigel does need to have a plan B but if he insist (as he has )that there will no change then I feel he will be gone by Christmas.Sorry but it will happen!
I just think we need a more defensive minded manager to shore us up. Keep the same players. In a nutshell.
Sorry, a bit of a malfunction there. That quote was meant for Saints4Life
Come on Nigel... what's your answer to that game?
Why leave out Rickie? can't be tired after 2 weeks off!
Why did you let our top pre-season scorer leave and keep Guly?
What's the next plan? Sell Rickie and Adam?
I like you Nigel but what the bloody hell are you doing?!
Losing to a crap team like that is the most embarrassing result so far.
Actually we have to start defending. - full stop.
My money is Raffa coming this week NA and his team will be gone by Monday morning.
What keep Guly and Fox i thought everyone on here wanted them both out the club? how will a defence minded manager help? the defenders will make the same mistakes and we will score less goals. Having a defence minded manager would not have stop the goals we conceded today or in any of our last games
LACK OF INVESTMENT
MANAGERS JOB ON LINE
ROCK BOTTOM BY CHRISTMAS
YOU MUGS DONT TAKE THE RISE OUT OF PERCY JUST READ YOUR TEA LEAVES!
Is there any point sacking poor old Nigel? Not really, what would a new manager do? The time to review the mess we are in is when the new year transfer window opens. Perhaps consider a defensive coach. Nigel has to take responsibility for making a total disaster during the last transfer window in not getting in proven tried and tested defenders suitable for the premiership. The fans knew our defence looked shakey during the second half of last season and was an area that needed looking at. This is unforgivable and shows a certain amount of inexperience at this level. All the hard work had been done but not the basics, sort out the defence and the goals will come.it is because of this we hold a record for leaking the most goals at this level after 8 games.The way NIgel responds when being interviewed is not getting a little annoying.
I would rather go down to the 4th division than sack Nige.
I think so.... but I am also suspicious about the Guly situation.... that is starting to stink to high heaven. He should not have been playing the tail end of last season let alone now in the prem, he is nooooooooooooooo way good enough for this level.
How do you know our defence will make the same mistakes with a defense minded manager? Can you read into the future? What I'm saying is change the manager for a more defense minded one... Could it get any worse? I would risk putting a tenner on it.
If we couldn't get the defenders he wanted, for whatever reason, I can't quite see what NA was supposed to do? Replace what we had with the same or worse standard of player?
Get rid of Fonte. He's woeful. Either that or put him upfront.
Hampshire Fred wrote…
A few spelling mistake re last post, a few glasses of wine consumed surely must be a good enough excuse.nigel's interviews are getting annoying and irrelevant.any good manager deals with their defence before doing anything else.spending so much money on strikers,some of which have been loaned out!! Makes no sense. The money should have been spent on good defenders.also questions need to be asked concerning training methods, when key players get injured and are out for a number of weeks and months this can not be a good thing.yes I'm annoyed but only cos I care!!
No i can't read the future but i'll spin it around how do you know a defence minded manager will make things better and make the players stop making those mistakes? and yes it could get worse we could concede more and score less which there is a good chance of happening with a defence minded manager and the defence we hae
W 1 D 1 L 6.
Hardly surprising when there is no one in defence (including goal )who is premier class with exception of Clyne.
J Rod Puncheon and Guly can play well but not for 90minutes.
The opening sequence of fixtures and the injuries to Gaston and Lee have been unfortunate.
We have reached the Prem too early but we will survive but with a few experienced additions.
And to those dimwits, calling for the spiv from Sand Banks dont be so fokkin ridiculous!!
Nigel can do it ...and he will.
har har, 4-1 loss sound familiar
wer'e talking football here and we are the only real football team in hampshire,
c,mon you know it makes sense,
sigh! off for a few beers, what a lovely weekend,loving it, we got no dough because of the off field thieves yet do the biz on it, whats your excuse.
you know the blues will be out in force on here, suck it up princess, andget o with it
Hampshire Fred wrote…
Poor journalism responding to your own comments.
Fred Dineage? :)
firsty i hope we are not going through another lowe reign as something does not seem right at the club at the moment. nigel has had to adapt the style of play during the last 2 years to get us to where we are now so what has changed so much that he is so determined to continue with a pattern of play which appears to be not working, you have to adapt, or is he (not) able to. I hope he is able and given the time to turn it around from the position we are in at he moment as he deserve,s the chance after all he has done for the club.nigel knows in his heart of hearts he has to turn it around so next sunday lets get behind him and the team and give them all the encouragement they need. I for one am greatly with today,s result, but am hoping for better things to come.
Brilliant the day gets better and better Norwich one up against arsenal bottom three for you tonight then ha ha ha ha
Why won`t he budge from 4.3.3 ? even when we are being stuffed !! No plan B is enough enough, N,C won`t take much more of this, Nigel has done us proud in the lower leagues but can`t hack the Prem
Sorry Nigel it seems is it P45 Time
The stripes wrote…
Like I said, I will put a tenner on it.
Who is responsible for thinking our defenders were anywhere near good enough for the prem.
Looks like Nigel is a dead man walking.
Mush On The Beach wrote…
What actually sounds familiar to me is that in the best part of my life time we have spent quality time in top flight footy while you have been dregging your name through the gutter.
We are indeed talking football here, not some sad embarrassment known in Hampshire known as The Blue FEW.
Suck it up skunt and blow it out your fish flap
The stripes wrote…
A tenner on what? Adkins being sacked when? Getting a defence minded manager? or things not getting any worse?
It was obvious to most fans the current defence, or perhaps the style of play, was at times creaky, if not leaky, in the Championship.
In August, along with many others, I said that the defence was not up to the Premiership (Udinese proved that). I was hoping to be wrong and take no pleasure in being right about it now.
NA did not get the defenders that were needed. He may well have tried but if he failed because he didn't make that his absolute priority then a question has to be asked about his judgement. Even then I see no benefit in sacking him.
He has to now work a way to get out of this mess. If he cannot do that during the rest of October and through November (with a lighter fixture list) then I think he will realise he was not up to the job and do the decent thing
Congats to us...
We have invented a new way to unsettle moral in the team. CHANGE THE GOALIE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY!!
Over the years....
We have endured bad decisions from an often changing line up of directors.
We have had far too many managers to mention.
We have never held on to talent when the wages are elsewhere.
And now we have too many Goalkeepers. Three this season, and that's without injuries!!!!!!
No wonder our defence is disorientated and in disarray.
I hope Nigel stays. But he flucked up his selection today.
The stripes wrote…
Have you been reading my posts? A tenner on new management. Comprendez vouz?
Something happened to Oxo came on in the 65th minute went off 9 minute later.
The stripes wrote…
At what odds?
I have put obviously i didn't think it was that clear. Ok whats the time frame on this bet then?
st bevois wrote…
After throwing Gaz in at the deep end and then continuing with him against Fulham why change again and unsettle the backline further. Continuity usually breeds positive results, although the backline has been hampered with injuries and form since day 1. I thought Fox did ok in the last match and his delivery was our most potent weapon, which was badly missed today (and yes I know full well that he has made errors in the past). I notice no one moaned about Adam after the Fulham match - even though he was ball watching and got caught on the blindside for one of Fulham's goals.
I thought everyone had learned with Lambert over the past three seaons that if he plays matches - he gets fit and he keeps fit (and scores goals). Personally I think NA doesn't want Lambert in his team but has been forced to keep him in because RL keeps re-inventing himself as a top notch strker each time he moves up the leagues and JR hasn't done it in the central striking role despite having more pitch time than RL. Fonte and Richardson were both dropped when other players came in and got back in the team through further injuries. All three are Pardew signings and you might naturally expect all to fall by the way on the route from Lg 1 dropzone to the Prem and Richardson and Fonte probably would have. NA wants his team to be "his team" including the Academy players....a bit controversial and I am sure a few will disagree...but that's my theory and RL is the sticking point - he should be in the team - all of our best moments this season have usually been when he is playing, but NA seems to be stubborn on formation and tactics. I hate to see it, NA has done a great job until now - but now he is starting to look like a rabbit caught in the headlights and no matter what he tries it always seems to go wrong now. After what he has achieved I am sure the club and NC will be lambasted if they show him the door now, but the pressure is on and it is starting to show.
Be careful what you wish for
That's it Norwich won and we are back in the doo doos, only Reading holding us up.
i know its not all adkins fault but he has made some strange subs this year and has cost us at least 6 points and at the end of the day football is a results business and i think we might be saying good bye tommorow
Mush On The Beach wrote…
touched a nerve?
if your'e going to spit a dummy out every time you lose its gonna be a long hard season,
good thing is, once the scum is removed from things quality has the chance to shine thru,
I'll leave yo to cry into your shandy now my little hard done by petal,and have a check on who has the glorious history, its not you ;-).
The stripes wrote…
Sorry this is getting boring now.
Spurs next week too. Bet Rickie Lambert starts next week.
At least there is a couple of easy games coming up :o)
The stripes wrote…
Ladbrokes offering 11/4
Stan James offering 3/1 for Rafa Benitez to be in next. Same as twitchy but we wouldn't want that would we?
Gordon Strachan is the man for the job. Still lives local too
The stripes wrote…
Now down to 7/4 oh dear.
Who is selecting the team - NA or NC?
If NA then he must go because
team selection and tactics are wrong.
If NC then NA will not want to stay.
If NC is ruling over everything then a
change of manager will make no
I sadly feel that it is already too late,
even this early in the season, to avoid relegation. By the time Jan comes we
will be struggling so much that decent
players will not want to join and our
top players will be leaving.
I ask the question - what is going on
at our club behind the scenes? Something is not right. There are now too many rumours going around for
there to be "no smoke without fire"
Just seen Nigel in Labrokes with a sackfull of money trying to get a bet on himself.
Totally agree, somethings going on down there.
Mush On The Beach wrote…
Stevenage and Sheffield United? Don't seem easy to me.
The stripes wrote…
I've heard Ronald McDonald will do it for 6 quid an hour. And he'll throw in a couple of Big Mac's at half time.