Adkins: I don't know how long I have got (From Daily Echo)

leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.

saintmoz wrote:

leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.

Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???

pompey in spain wrote:
OH DEAR,OH DEAR,OH DEAR!!!

pompey in spain wrote:
COSTA THEYRE IN THE PUBS DROWNING THEIR TEARS!

costa gaz wrote:
I can't believe that NA did not want to buy some defenders but was over ruled by the chairman.
Nigel Adkins will be sacked within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner.
The next manager must be someone who can deal with a dictator of a chairman.... personally I'd prefer Cortese to be sacked by the Liebherr family.... not really gonna happen though.

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

Nicole23 wrote:
King Kenny please come in

pompey in spain wrote:
kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!!

montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”

Saint H wrote:
Tragic and NA will carry the can for all this. We are doomed and MLT's words in the week were echoed by NA's post match interview, ie he doesn't pick the team. I mean leaving SRL on the bench please! Where do we go from here.......Church me thinks!!

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

costa gaz wrote:

montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”

You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.

SUPER SAINT wrote:
see fish face is on motd

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.

Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

leechyboy wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Matt Le God wrote:

leechyboy wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.

Not out of his depth, just either trying too hard to please NC or getting interference from NC - just needs to get back to basics and play as we were last season and forget playing fancy. Formations and leave that too the arsenals and chelseas, we ain't there YET

turicky wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

Hear! Hear!
Would just like to add. Would all the posters, calling for either of the new 'keepers to play, for the season so far. Now wonder if maybe KD may have been the better choice, from the start. IMO he would have saved many of the goals conceded, and worked far better with the defence.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.

Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?

It's 80 - 23 now, any straw is worth clutching at, these posters are all pretty savy, unlike many on here.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

turicky wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy.
I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done.
I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.

angus mc coatup wrote:

turicky wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy.
I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done.
I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.

not sure that you're allowed to sack the most knowledgable man to ever walk this earth.

Ted Rogers wrote:
Nigel Adkins is being let down badly by his staff.
The defensive displays that we have seen this year have been disgraceful.
I for one don't want to see him go, I would rather our 'Professionals' stepped up their game and started to to perform as they should.

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

That's a bit unfair, there are things to do outside of football, unfortunately some of them get in the way. I was in an area where there was no mobile signal and it is very frustrating when you can't pick up the score. At half time having got wind of the starting XI I was quite amazed, but sadly they never turned up for the second half, a good 45 minutes is no use in the Premier, it has to be 90+.

St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.

hedge end bob wrote:

St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.

HEAR HEAR Retford.

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

Wakefield Saint wrote:
HR ? Do me a favor !

Ted Rogers wrote:
After strengthening our defence, we will finish higher than Wigan, Norwich, QPR, Villa and Swansea.
We should not panic.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.

Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?

TheJoiners wrote:
Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA.
He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me.
For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans.
People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear.
Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what??
REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)

randre wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT!

saintshorse101 wrote:
i am amazed at how many sofa managers we get posting on here!
did any of you who are calling for NA and or NC to go think we would be top of the table or something? i have been reading and posting on here for a few years, from the dark days when we nearly went bust. its strange how now we have lost a few games, so many `new` posters come on here, saying how they have been fans for years and want redkrapp back! well if you have been fans for years you will know what redkrapp did to us, you will also remember how rubbish we were when we changed managers every time we lost 5 games!
i know i will be called a `happy clapper` or any other well thought out name by some, but I WANT SAINTS TO WIN GAMES!, and i want them to do it WITH ADKINS!. do any of you idiots who want him to be sacked remember what happend to fergie when he first went to manure? they were rubbish for a couple of years and their idiot fans wanted him sacked, now look at them!
stick with the manager and get behind the team, and lets climb up this league together!

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

angus mc coatup wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.

Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.

Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.

warrens 76 wrote:

ramptonfromsouthampt

on wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.

Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.

Absolutely, we can never be a manure or any other plastic fan team, BUT in our own way we could offer something more...

.... a way of belonging, we have a style of play which results aside is great on the eye, our academy and it's direct link to the first team....we are not so far away...

I hate the ruthless mercenary here today gone tomorrow, manager, chairman and players...

Instead remember Atletico Bilbao last season, even the players all come from there, let's become something "as one".

...EVERYONE belongs to that club and the club belongs to everyone...we should aim to "emotionally " belong to the south and vice versa..if ever there was a man and a feeling to bring it about..NA is the man.

I accept we will probably go down, equally i believe that we play football the right way and eventually we will be a great team....we lose it all if we sack Adkins and his crew before the foundations are fully set.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

randre wrote:

Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?

I think you need to look at the squad and summer signings, read your post back and just consider what you have written.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.

loosehead wrote:
We have a player going/gone for a month to play in Africa?
We have another sidelined with a dead leg for another 4 weeks?
Didn't Pompey have problems like this?
why buy African Nation players if you know you're losing them for months at a time & when you'll really need them?

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.

Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)

randre wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.

Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)

But some posters NEVER have anything positive to say, which is not in anyway supportive of the great work that has already been done.

As I have said before, true support comes when the team is struggling and needs it most, it is very easy to support a team that are doing well.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.

I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.

St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.

bluehants wrote:
Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season
doing nothing wrong in my eyes

:-)

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.

Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)

mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.

aldermoorboy wrote:
1/. Saints will stay up.
2/. Keep Nigel he is a great guy.
3/. I have loved the football we have played since Nigel came, win, lose or draw it is great to watch.
4/. If the fans stay with the team for 90 minutes + we can beat Spurs.
5/. Bye breakfast is ready.

owen thesaints... wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

well said, i think we need someone to come on board in an advisory role to NA, sacking him (which i sadly think might happen) would be a terrible decision, it would surely unsettle the players at a time we need total focus in what they have been doing so well, lets face it, the team and management are ALL on a huge learning curve. I firmly believe its not too late to turn things round and finish this first season back in the top flight without being relegated. I am not saying it will be easy, but we've done it before. We as fans of SFC should be proud, focused and totally behind the team AND management, Nigel frustrates me at times, but he is new to this level of football and i think when (and i do hope it's soon!) he gets it right he will prove all the doubters wrong. Believe in the club that we all support and ffs SUPPORT them...COYR STID

kent141 wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.

And me :0)

mbetts wrote:
Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football.

We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly.

There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.

costa gaz wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.

Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.

That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.

If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.

Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)

kent141 wrote:
Nigel knows this game inside out, as he says' you keep the ball out of your net and put it in the other one' the man is a tactical genius.

kent141 wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.

And me :0)

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.

Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bluehants wrote:
Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season
doing nothing wrong in my eyes

:-)

Is Appleton better in some ways, considering what he has to work with, he does get results and you can understand why other Clubs are taking notice?

TEBOURBA wrote:
I cannot see why the happy clappies are so opposed to NC appointing an experienced coach, on a temporary basis to assist NA in tightening the defence.
There is no one at St Mary's with PL experience either on the pitch or in the dug out.
What is there to lose?
The alternatives are to leave things as they are and hope for the best or sack NA and appoint a new manager.
Either option would be very risky, I can't see things getting better on their own accord and a new manager would need time to implement his style of play and also win the hearts and minds of the players, which NA already has.
The past few weeks have seen a loan negotiated, work stopped at Staplewood, programme sellers sacked
critism of the ticketing and buffet arrangements, corporate supporters rebelling against seating changes Saints conceding a record number of goals in the PL and the manager publicly wondering how much longer he's got !!
What has our illustrious Chairman got to say about all this to the fans who pay his wages? ---- NOTHING! --- and there my friends is the nub of the problem!
Bookies are offering shorter odds on NC sacking NA than they did on Frankel!

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.

Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.

I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.

seany1966 wrote:
4-4-2 ... Say no more

Abbey Saint wrote:

kent141 wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.

And me :0)

And me

Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.

PTID1898 wrote:
Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
I have read all of the posts on here from yesterday.
Couldn't do it before, too gutted.
I listened to Solents' after game interview with NA,he was lost for words.
1) Is this level too high for NA?
2) Why his insistence on playing 433?
3)Has Lambert instantly become lame?
4)Why not try 442 it worked before.The worse thing that can happen is that we might lose.
5)Why did we buy DeRidder? He has been never given a decent run in the team.
This list of questions can go on.

Unfortunately I think Nigel time is coming to an end if he doesn't start to get to grips with these questions and more.
Anyway, pessamism over.

Next Saturday we have to lift our selves and our team to stay in the league we belong.
It's been a long road back to where we are lets all pull together to make sure we stay.
COYR

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR

saintmark1977 wrote:
What is it with modern day Saints fans?

Two seasons ago we were in what I remember as the old Third Divsion.Now we are in the First Division and it is a struggle. What on earth did you expect?

Many fans now wish to sack the manager who got us to where we are because he has not brought instant success. They want to replace him with managers who are out of a job because they failed in their previous employment. How would such action benefit us?

If we only have one season in the Premiership it will not be the end of the world. Rather that in a stable club structure than a return to our previous attempts at the manager merry go round and all the problems that went with it.

Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.

warrens 76 wrote:

PTID1898 wrote:
Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..

I think we are still the ones laughing..unless you are deranged..

Confucious wrote:
I'd like to see more sympathy for the moaners, doom-mongers and head-choppers on here.

Come on guys, they've had an awful time of it for three years. After all that sunshine, let them enjoy the rain.

Obviously there is a danger with these people that they let failure go to their heads, but bear in mind failure may well be the only thing they are a success at.

Remember too that for these people, who never have and never will have to do it themselves, nothing is impossible.

By registering their gloom in the tough times they can stake their position not only as the wise fathers of any future success but also as the blameless orphans of any failure.

Lawton12 wrote:
Wasn't the basic team that won promotion last season , in essence brought together by Nigel Pardew ?

A good defensive coach is the most rational decision at this time but, I fear Adkins will be gone in 2 weeks and practicing physiotherapy.

Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.

hedge end bob wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.

Sense.... hear hear

saintlysoul wrote:
I was at the match yesterday.I thought Sants played well in the first half. The second half was the same old same old - poor defending. How can defenders and a goal keeper at any level allow a free kick to bounce in the 6 yard area? Why did Fonte stupidly handle the ball to concede a penalty?

Schneidlin was poor yesterday as was Davis (seems only to want to play backwards or sideways). Puncheon was below par and apart from his goal Lalana was quiet. Guly I'm afraid is a waste of time and Rodriguez just isn't ready for this level.

What I can't understand is when the team are playing poorly as must have been obvious to NA and the coaching staff why substitutions are made earlier e.g. why bring Ward-Prowse on on the 89th minute bearing in mind the midfield's second half performance when he came on he looked up for it and alert. He's done well so far so why not give him longer?

I feel sorry for NA. His players are letting him down. They should all take a look at themselves and seriously up their games.

We also need a leader on the pitch someone who will command performances from the players. Lalana never seems to say anything!

crusti wrote:

mbetts wrote:
Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football.

We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly.

There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.

Top Post, it says what i wanted to say.

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

ghk230473 wrote:
Just watched highlights and as stats prove we didn't play too bad and had plenty of the ball.
It's when we are not in possession the trouble starts, we have to defend all over the pitch.
Having said that what is Adkins/schwi doing dropping lambert to the bench? He's scored 5 goals this season and is our talisman. He puts opposition defence on the back foot and links up play.
We are shifting 3 goals a game which cannot continue (obviously) we need to become more defensive in all areas of the pitch, if we can't get back let's not bomb forward. When we lose the ball, work hard to win it back. Tactics are useless if the players cannot do the basics, let's get back to basics.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.

Which GK should we play at Leeds?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.

Which GK should we play at Leeds?

warrens 76 wrote:
If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's....

....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..

circa 66 saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.

Which GK should we play at Leeds?

all 3 . 2 to fight the fans off the other to keep goal

costa gaz wrote:

montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”

You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.

warrens 76 wrote:

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

"I applaud you"! and him!

willygetaway wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's....

....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..

go get em bruv lol, when do you arrive ?

Tirau Dan wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.

I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.

most of the neg brigade are deaf blind and terminally dum at the mo... repeatedly stating faults we all are soooo aware of. Its just the way they go on and on and on baying for the merry go round as if they can't wait for us to fail so they can ram it down everyones throat again.. I've never met Mr Cortese and don't care whether some that have didn't like him. He had Markus Liebherr's trust and friendship in business and within his family.. We've come a long way in a short time.. two words spring to mind that have been so easily cast aside. Gratitude and Loyalty.

If he put the club on the market tomorrow they'd all say told you so now lets have a proper owner. If he sacked Nigel tomorrow and brought in Harry and harry took us down they'd wish silently for Nigel back.

KTF

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
It's sad that some people are either spineless & have no bottle, or are so arrogant & self-opinionated thay they cannot support their team (if it is their team) when the going gets tough.

NA & NC have earnt our respect & support for the last two years, so I think some people need to either man up or shut up.

The season isn't decided after 8 games, & a Manager's reputation neither.

I would hate to be in a team with some of the posters on here when times get tough. They'd be the first to either bale out or blame someone else.

If your support for the team is so flaky & your patience so short, I suggest you either go & support another team or take a long hard look at yourselves & grow a pair.

COYR!

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by

Barcelona Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by

Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?

Barcelona Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by

Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?

angus mc coatup wrote:

Barcelona Saint wrote:

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by

Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?

I wonder If he's any good with gates.

my garden one is knackered.

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

saintmoz wrote:

leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.

Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Our prime objective at the moment is to be 17th or above on the last day, as things are going I would settle for that.

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR

Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.

mickey01 wrote:
there is a mr phil brown who is out of work who did wonders at hull with a limited budget plus he is someone who would not let the board pick the team or failing that lets have neil warnock

angus mc coatup wrote:
lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

mustard wrote:

ramptonfromsouthampt

on wrote:

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.

spot on !

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life

You have my support.

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

SFCSaint wrote:
our future already looks doomed!

Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?

Alicesdad wrote:
I can not believe there are people who believe Rednap should return. Shame on you all.
He has been to court where he admitted his dog had bank accounts that he forgot about , he cannot write that well and finds complicated numbers a challenge. That speaks everything I need to know for his capabilities. As for character, HELLO ! He was here before REMEMBER ??? AND WHAT DID HIS "PROVEN PREMIERSHIP ABILITY" DO FOR US THEN?? . And why do you think his "proven ability" hasn'rt been snaped up ? For pity's sake he has been shown up for what he is. He is only good for a comedy turn on MOTD.

I still think the majority want Adkins to stay.

But some of these posts remind of a Sunday in 1976 when we paraded the Cup around Southampton. I was standing on the old rose gardens listening to McMenemeny when he made a very good point. said the difference between Southampton fans and Newcastle fans was that they would have turned out on Sunday even if they lost. The crowd largely ignored that comment. But it rings true when you read some of the pitiful whimpering in some of these posts.

There are those among you who would rather have an illiterate crook running this club than stand by a man of ability and integrity.

I know who the posters are on here who have a balanced and well intentioned perspective. I shall continue to read those with interest.

The rest of you should hang your heads and go back to the dark corners. Because I know that as soon as the results turn, and they will, you will scurry out of the dark and be denying you ever came out with the bile I see on these posts.

And we support the same team?

Do we?

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR

Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.

TheJoiners wrote:
Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA.
He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me.
For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans.
People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear.
Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what??
REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

F Fan wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”

You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.

Yes, he will. Bankers ran very big businesses - didn't mean they what they were speaking about with respect to their own industry, far less a football business.

Keven Keegan as director of football - words fail me.

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW

mustard wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.

quite right, I'll be delighted with 17th place and continuity this season, we're only a win from where we need to be and it's far too early for panic or knee jerk reactions...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.

joelster wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.

that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here.
And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great!

warrens 76 wrote:

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW

nuff said..my vote.

Crossley Place Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.

Can you post the link please Osprey? The NA/NC situation worries me and I'd like to see that story. Ta!

ramptonfromsouthampt
on wrote:
Thought I'd post this again, as I'm not sure that the Doom and Gloom brigade bother reading through all the comments on this thread. My response was in support of an earlier posting made by a Saints fan who made some bloody good points and asked some really pertinent questions of all of us!

"Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'identikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR."

And I'll add to the above by saying to all those baying for Nigel's head - be careful what you wish for.

st1halo wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?

Because he's never heard of you!

STID

st1halo wrote:
I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!!



STID

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.

I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.

Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.

Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.

Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.

Thanks for the advice and councilling hedge end bob.
A couple of things.... are you saying that when the team does well (1st half yesterday) it is down to the manager.

But when the team are abysmal (2nd half) it is down to the players.

You think I should still support and encourage when things go wrong, but in the second half of your post you have had a go at the keeper and the player in CAPITAL LETTERS.

Have i read your post wrong because I'm not to sure I am getting what you are trying to point out.

joelster wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!

Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!

We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage

Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..

At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!

You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.

that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here.
And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great!

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!

bluewhiteandred wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!

baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!

baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated

Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

st1halo wrote:
I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!!



STID

.. not to mention the parachute payment.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!

baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated

Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)

Yes, I think I can, Bill. It's the training I've had working out what French people with limited English are trying to write.

It says: Baddesley Bill, weren't Shrewsbury - the tiny team from a tiny town near Wales - in League 1 a few seasons ago when the mighty Saints, pride of the South, best team in Hampshire, with a clean and honourable history that skunts like me can but admire, were bought by the legend that IS Markus Leibherr the great at the same time as the skuntish few were preparing themselves for total collapse.

Pleased to be of service.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!

baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated

Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH

If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?

I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become