Grant demands decision on Pompey deduction (From Daily Echo)
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Grant demands decision on Pompey deduction
8:23am Wednesday 10th March 2010 in
Portsmouth boss Avram Grant has called on the Premier League to make a quick decision on his side's possible nine-point deduction.
The South Coast strugglers suffered another blow in their uphill struggle for survival as they went down 2-1 at home to Birmingham at Fratton Park.
Despite a stoppage-time header from substitute Kanu, a first-half brace from Blues striker Cameron Jerome was enough to give his side revenge for their FA Cup loss on this ground last Saturday.
This result leaves Pompey five points from safety, and they stand to drop another nine behind should the Premier League impose a nine-point penalty following the club's plunge into administration.
Administrator Andrew Andronikou has pledged to fight the rule, which has never been tested as no top flight club has ever suffered this fate.
But Grant admits his team would like to know for definite how many points they will have to claw back if they are to avoid relegation.
He said: "I still believe that this needs to be decided on the pitch and we'll see how we get on.
"We can still do it, but we need to know for sure what will happen. We can't just keep reading in the papers every day that we are nine points down.
"Of course it affects the players, but when they come to the pitch, they are trying everything they can do to win the games."
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franiow
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9:04am Wed 10 Mar 10
stjj
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9:07am Wed 10 Mar 10
Ragworm
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9:14am Wed 10 Mar 10
franiow
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9:16am Wed 10 Mar 10
The Moog
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9:25am Wed 10 Mar 10
franiow wrote:Pompey fans feel that Grant is now truly one of them and they're right. He is now as much of a deluded moron as the rest of them for thinking this is all the PL's fault. And his latest gem? After the win at the weekend- 'you can't break our spirit', a poor result against the same team on the same pitch three days later its back to excuses- 'with our situation it is much harder'. Make your mind up.
How can the league make a decision about the points deduction when the court hasn't decided whether their administration is legal or not. Interestingly, if administration is ruled illegal (and they aren't wound up) will a subsequent attempt at administration result in a deduction next year rather than this. What is the cut-off date for administration?
The Moog
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9:32am Wed 10 Mar 10
franiow wrote:More evidence of a deluded moron. The players certainly are directly involved with the financial aspects as its them that are accepting (some months anyway) the overinflated wages. The fans are not as culpable but I bet they didn't mind the overspending when they bought the FA Cup. Rough with the smooth my fishy friends.
Just seen Avram harping on about the loss of 9 points being wrong because it punishes the fans and players who are not directly involved with the financial problems of the club. That's true for every club. Why should Pompey be a special case!
franiow
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9:34am Wed 10 Mar 10
The_Shotster
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9:40am Wed 10 Mar 10
Costa Baz
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10:06am Wed 10 Mar 10
When HMRC asked for their money, did PFC say 'yes sir, straight away sir' or did they ignore them?
When local businesses asked for their money did they get a positive response or were they too ignored?
When football clubs wanted paying for players PFC are (in some cases) still using, did PFC pay up immediately or did they give them the finger?
We all know the answers to the above, as does Grant, yet they still think they are 'special' and deserve to be treated with respect, when in reality they should be treated with total contempt.
Especially for the manner in which they have obtained players after the transfer embargo was lifted, knowing that they were insolvent.
This, IMO, is the area the PL and the FA should be concentrating on, when they next meet to discuss the actions taken by PFC.
The manner in which PFC have DELIBERATELY shown contempt to the PL, the FA and ALL the teams they are competing against, is something that CANNOT be allowed to re-occur.
Extreme 'cheating' deserves to be met with extreme punishment, so a 2 league relegation should be considered as the PL punishment, whilst exclusion from next years FA Cup should be considered by the FA.
Won't happen though, so leaves the door open for other teams to follow suit, in chasing the dream.
Ragworm
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10:12am Wed 10 Mar 10
Costa Baz wrote:Like it, i don't think many would be shocked either at such harsh punishment.
The usual 'one rule for Pompey and one rule for the rest' attitude being spewed out yet again by our fishy friends. When HMRC asked for their money, did PFC say 'yes sir, straight away sir' or did they ignore them? When local businesses asked for their money did they get a positive response or were they too ignored? When football clubs wanted paying for players PFC are (in some cases) still using, did PFC pay up immediately or did they give them the finger? We all know the answers to the above, as does Grant, yet they still think they are 'special' and deserve to be treated with respect, when in reality they should be treated with total contempt. Especially for the manner in which they have obtained players after the transfer embargo was lifted, knowing that they were insolvent. This, IMO, is the area the PL and the FA should be concentrating on, when they next meet to discuss the actions taken by PFC. The manner in which PFC have DELIBERATELY shown contempt to the PL, the FA and ALL the teams they are competing against, is something that CANNOT be allowed to re-occur. Extreme 'cheating' deserves to be met with extreme punishment, so a 2 league relegation should be considered as the PL punishment, whilst exclusion from next years FA Cup should be considered by the FA. Won't happen though, so leaves the door open for other teams to follow suit, in chasing the dream.
Dropping into L2 minus 15 would be fitting.
My View from the Hill
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10:12am Wed 10 Mar 10
Administrator Andrew Andronikou has pledged to fight the rule, which has never been tested as no top flight club has ever suffered this fate.
So one Skate is saying hurry up and deduct the points another Skate is saying he plans to fight it.
Utter madness, the administrator is a deluded fool, if he thinks that the PL won't deduct the points then he should tell the brothel hopper, before the brothel hopper tells the league to hurry up.
Anyone I don't understand what the all the fuss is about, the 9 points should be the least of the Skates worries, they need to go to court next to even exist.
Pooopey are and always have been a joke, the circus used to be led by the twitching man, now it's led by two clowns.
it's great to be a Saint
SW word tiny-sale
they don't have nothing left to sell, excellent even the Echo are ripping them to shreads
beatlesaint
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10:26am Wed 10 Mar 10
Southampton boy
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10:36am Wed 10 Mar 10
After last nights results it's not looking good for us to get to the play offs still never mind should be a great game on saturday we can show just how good we are with this one so COYR's
southampton_till_i_die09
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10:47am Wed 10 Mar 10
Numpty.
Costa Baz
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11:04am Wed 10 Mar 10
Ragworm wrote:Don't have an e-mail address for the FA and PL, do you?
Costa Baz wrote: The usual 'one rule for Pompey and one rule for the rest' attitude being spewed out yet again by our fishy friends. When HMRC asked for their money, did PFC say 'yes sir, straight away sir' or did they ignore them? When local businesses asked for their money did they get a positive response or were they too ignored? When football clubs wanted paying for players PFC are (in some cases) still using, did PFC pay up immediately or did they give them the finger? We all know the answers to the above, as does Grant, yet they still think they are 'special' and deserve to be treated with respect, when in reality they should be treated with total contempt. Especially for the manner in which they have obtained players after the transfer embargo was lifted, knowing that they were insolvent. This, IMO, is the area the PL and the FA should be concentrating on, when they next meet to discuss the actions taken by PFC. The manner in which PFC have DELIBERATELY shown contempt to the PL, the FA and ALL the teams they are competing against, is something that CANNOT be allowed to re-occur. Extreme 'cheating' deserves to be met with extreme punishment, so a 2 league relegation should be considered as the PL punishment, whilst exclusion from next years FA Cup should be considered by the FA. Won't happen though, so leaves the door open for other teams to follow suit, in chasing the dream.Like it, i don't think many would be shocked either at such harsh punishment. Dropping into L2 minus 15 would be fitting.
Perhaps we can get a campaign going and bombard them with e-mails?
Having read so many times that non payment of wages is a breach of contract, I would like to ask the FA and PL to clarify the following.
When players aren't paid, as has happened 4 (or is it 5?) times at PFC this season, does this mean the players are technically 'out of contract', and possibly, therefore, qualify as 'unregistered players' and not permitted to play until they are re-registered following payment.
I expect their answer would be 'no', but if anyone out there knows about employment law and contracts of employment..........
?
chrissysredandwhitebarmyarmy
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11:19am Wed 10 Mar 10
Condor Man
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12:23pm Wed 10 Mar 10
rcoups
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12:47pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Gladbachsaint
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1:19pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Then i would would close them down next Monday.
BYE BYE P*MP*Y P*MP*Y BYE BYE
MrJack
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5:29pm Fri 12 Mar 10
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8:59am Wed 10 Mar 10