Saints tight-lipped over Adkins' future (From Daily Echo)

alanrr wrote:
for heaven's sake we haven't played the lesser teams yet..............we' ll know more by christmas .........i, for one, would like to see adkins stay

St.Yorkie wrote:
Media bandwagon rolls on - unlike the Adkins bus!
Look I'm all in favour of clarity, but let's not demand the backing of the Chairman or he's a goner!
In my opinion - if Adkins is sacked we will definitely get relegated. The players just won't perform ans they will lose their mentor who got them believing they weere good enough for the Premier League. If he goes so does the team spirit - only an opinion of course.
Coming down for the Spurs game - first live match of the season. Haven't missed much of any game this season with the internet providing a much cheaper alternative! Will get Leeds ticket on Sunday too...guess that will be my fill of live football this season in the flesh, unless there is a considerable change in pricing!

Chicago Saint wrote:
NC and the fans need to let NA be and let him perform his job. We need stability on this team and sacking a manager after just eight games, ESPECIALLY after all he has done for this club, is TOTALLY unfair. He has driven us to two back to back promotions, the least we can do is give him a chance to get a full season under him. At the very least, give him a half a season to see if he can turn this thing around. There is no other manager out there who can motivate a team better than NA. Let us show him the loyalty he deserves after two years of so many triumphs!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
At least if the Saints don't say anything we won't get the dreaded Boards Vote of Confidence which always happens three days before they give him the sack.

Shareholder wrote:
There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote:
There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote:
There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

How do you work that out?

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote: There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

How do you work that out?

It tends to be the way of things. A. Vote of confidence from the chairman = the sack within a week. B. The manager will be in charge for the next game = we are taking our time to line up a replacement. C /silence/ = we are busy finding a replacement.

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

GX Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote: There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

How do you work that out?

It tends to be the way of things. A. Vote of confidence from the chairman = the sack within a week. B. The manager will be in charge for the next game = we are taking our time to line up a replacement. C /silence/ = we are busy finding a replacement.

But they were silent on this for 2 years. How come this silence is any different?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saints have just this morning, tweeted the following statement:

"For clarification, the following statement was issued to the Southern Daily Echo in relation to the story they are running this morning. It has been the Club’s conscious policy for the last three years not to reply to questions or calls for statements from the Daily Echo and this will continue to be Club Policy."

p.s. We are going to sack NA because MGRA says so.

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saints have just this morning, tweeted the following statement:

"For clarification, the following statement was issued to the Southern Daily Echo in relation to the story they are running this morning. It has been the Club’s conscious policy for the last three years not to reply to questions or calls for statements from the Daily Echo and this will continue to be Club Policy."

p.s. We are going to sack NA because MGRA says so.

you are the most naive person on here. really.....

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Ted Bates, Lawrie McMenemy, Alex Ferguson, Jock Stein, Bob Paisley, Brian Clough, Dario Gradi …… Long term success and greatness at a football club is achieved through those around showing loyalty, belief, support and continuity.

Nigel is deserving of all of these and who knows one day, he can be added to that list

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote:
There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

How do you work that out?

It tends to be the way of things. A. Vote of confidence from the chairman = the sack within a week. B. The manager will be in charge for the next game = we are taking our time to line up a replacement. C /silence/ = we are busy finding a replacement.

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

St Retford wrote:

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Shareholder wrote:
There is something of the vulture about this - the paper just hovering expectantly waiting for the death throes to end so it can chew over the corpse. Nigel Adkins has earned the right to be treated with more dignity. His problem is the defence. The facts are that the club failed to sign sufficient new defenders. The evidence is there that it tried to sign more, Buttner being the prime example. For whatever reason that became a fiasco which ended up with him going to United. Managers are responsible for identifying the players they want to buy, Chairmen are responsible for negotiating their signature. I think it inconceivable that Adkins hadn't identified other defenders. The fact we failed to provide for the area on the pitch where just about everyone knew we needed to improve is as much down to the Chairman as the Manager. Of course tactics come into the equation and most would agree some strange decisions have been taken principal among which is the dropping to the bench and often substitution of Rickie Lambert. Everyone knows the team plays and feels better when he's playing. It's obvious Nigel will have to change tack and play a bit uglier to grind out the points until the defence can be shored up in January. He must know that now. If that doesn't happen then he will be proved to be naive. And as we can only sign free agents (and there aren't a mass of them with the credentials we need) it may be easier to bring in an experienced Premier League defence coach. Right now though the responsibility for our lowly position is one that is shared across the club, from Board Room to Manager. The Chairman therefore needs to give the Manager more time to sort this out. After all, even the best Manager in the world would struggle to get this defence to work right now so bringing in a 'name' is not likely to provide immediate success.

By giving no statement its clear they are giving the clear message under the table.... NA is on his way out.... and he knows it.

How do you work that out?

It tends to be the way of things. A. Vote of confidence from the chairman = the sack within a week. B. The manager will be in charge for the next game = we are taking our time to line up a replacement. C /silence/ = we are busy finding a replacement.

What utter twaddle.

So what course of action, in your opinion, actually IS a sign from a club that they're going to keep their manager?

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote: They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That! I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it. The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say. If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards? The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing.
Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game.
Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing. Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game. Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

St.Yorkie wrote:
Media bandwagon rolls on - unlike the Adkins bus!
Look I'm all in favour of clarity, but let's not demand the backing of the Chairman or he's a goner!
In my opinion - if Adkins is sacked we will definitely get relegated. The players just won't perform ans they will lose their mentor who got them believing they weere good enough for the Premier League. If he goes so does the team spirit - only an opinion of course.
Coming down for the Spurs game - first live match of the season. Haven't missed much of any game this season with the internet providing a much cheaper alternative! Will get Leeds ticket on Sunday too...guess that will be my fill of live football this season in the flesh, unless there is a considerable change in pricing!

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing. Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game. Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

You two are like a flock of sheep .....



................ a VERY small flock, that is.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

hhhhhhhhh!!!!

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saints have just this morning, tweeted the following statement:

"For clarification, the following statement was issued to the Southern Daily Echo in relation to the story they are running this morning. It has been the Club’s conscious policy for the last three years not to reply to questions or calls for statements from the Daily Echo and this will continue to be Club Policy."

p.s. We are going to sack NA because MGRA says so.

you are the most naive person on here. really.....

MGRA wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

You two are like a flock of sheep .....



................ a VERY small flock, that is.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


hhhhhhhhh!!!!

come on now.... put daddy's computer down and go and own up you have been using it and playing at "farm yard"

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

You two are like a flock of sheep .....



................ a VERY small flock, that is.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah



hhhhhhhhh!!!!

come on now.... put daddy's computer down and go and own up you have been using it and playing at "farm yard"

Have I touched a nerve?

For what it's worth, I think the club could do a lot more in the community and with the media.

If I were NC, I'd be looking at every possible way to promote the club's image and make sure the facts (when necessary and appropriate) were on view so as to keep stupid rumours to a minimum; that's the kind of guy I am.

Alas, I'm also the kind of guy who'd be pee-poor at running a successful football club. So, if you want someone like me in charge, expect to be back in League 1 sometime soon.

As for the articles being comment on, some of us (you, me and we know most of the others) come here to share our views, see what other fans think and have a laugh - mainly together. We'd still read and comment if the headline read 'No News Today' and the article stretched no futher than saying: 'Nothing to report, have a nice day. Yours, Adam Leitch.'

Anyway, I've some French students waiting to learn about the second conditional. So, I'll just end by saying, if I were you, I'd be careful what I wished for. I've nothing else to report, have a nice day.

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Ted Bates, Lawrie McMenemy, Alex Ferguson, Jock Stein, Bob Paisley, Brian Clough, Dario Gradi …… Long term success and greatness at a football club is achieved through those around showing loyalty, belief, support and continuity.

Nigel is deserving of all of these and who knows one day, he can be added to that list

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

.. and I get called naive....

Confucious wrote:
Come on - MGRA has a point.
The club might have worked out that silence is one of the most difficult arguments to refute. And silence has a bad track record....

Remember, with the emporer tucked safe in Tokyo days before the event, everyone in authority kept shtum about the Japanese tsunami until it was shown on live TV and they were then forced to comment.

Everyone knew D Day was going to take place, but again, not only silence from the authorities, but an eleborate cover up to keep the public in the dark.

Until it is admitted and we are told officially that a giant asteroid is heading towards the earth at millions of miles an hour, we should be very worried.

I also note that Nigel's future is not the only thing Saints are making no comment about. As far as I know, they have not denied that cheap minced donkey willies are being used in the club's burgers.

Confucious wrote:
My motto is: "Always answer an honest question and answer it honestly."

My wife will provide testimony to my good faith in this - and I have numerous bruises as evidence.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

.. and I get called naive....

Explain.....?

kent141 wrote:
If Nigel gets his marching orders how about giving Mickey Wall the job.

Tirau Dan wrote:
First thing Alan Pardew did was lock the gate at training to reporters who previously had almost open access.

Silence from SMS is business as usual.

For the Magic Roundabout fans out there: Name one possible alternative manager?

Harry - no way.. the fans would completely revolt and boycott.

Rafa... possible but how much would be want to spend at Christmas and how many feathers would he ruffle..

GLVialli? come on surely his record is so poor and he's out of touch.

GWS.. nope.. his win record outside of scotland is less than 33% (half that of Nigel.

Kevin Keegan? lost his first 8 games straight at newcastle...then he started to win a few by using 433 system!

ANy of the above could see us go down.. would any of them stick it out and bring us back? Nope!

Nigel Adkins has my support. Bit of ars kicking and nursing the wounded legs and egos back from shell shock for now, Add a couple of players in at Christmas and we'll be off like a robbers dog.

Still only a couple of wins from mid table... .COYR together as one!!!!

mack chinnon wrote:
Anyway,this week I shall be mostly drinking lager.

Mills_18 wrote:
AND fans want sharp back and barnard,
Fans will beclapping in the 11th minute to remember Billy Sharp's son on sunday a year after.

Tirau Dan wrote:
First thing Alan Pardew did was lock the gate at training to reporters who previously had almost open access.

Silence from SMS is business as usual.

For the Magic Roundabout fans out there: Name one possible alternative manager?

Harry - no way.. the fans would completely revolt and boycott.

Rafa... possible but how much would be want to spend at Christmas and how many feathers would he ruffle..

GLVialli? come on surely his record is so poor and he's out of touch.

GWS.. nope.. his win record outside of scotland is less than 33% (half that of Nigel.

Kevin Keegan? lost his first 8 games straight at newcastle...then he started to win a few by using 433 system!

ANy of the above could see us go down.. would any of them stick it out and bring us back? Nope!

Nigel Adkins has my support. Bit of ars kicking and nursing the wounded legs and egos back from shell shock for now, Add a couple of players in at Christmas and we'll be off like a robbers dog.

Still only a couple of wins from mid table... .COYR together as one!!!!

shilo wrote:
Sadly Nigel Atkin's days are numbered, the Chairman has no hesitation is sacking anyone who works for the club for any reason whatsover.

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

MGRA wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing.
Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game.
Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

I also think the club has snookered itself with regards coaching and tactical expertise.... Nigel brought with him his own assistant who was also a defensive coach. The trouble is that assistant only had lower leagues experience. Couple that with Nigel's own experience, the fact Saints have only ONE player with any decent premier league experience and a club head honcho that has no history in football its clear where the real problem is. The solution is not a good one if you are in NAs position, it means having your position look undermined and getting in some help. The evidence of this is clear after our 8 games. Its not quality thats has undone us, its having that bit of "cuteness" I believe is the correct football term and that only comes with experience. We busily signed attacking "talent" when in my opinion we should have been looking at where the advice was going to come from ? I think it was assumed we could get off to some sort of a start by outscoring teams and then find our feet. This was undersestimating the premier league imo.

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing.
Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game.
Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

I also think the club has snookered itself with regards coaching and tactical expertise.... Nigel brought with him his own assistant who was also a defensive coach. The trouble is that assistant only had lower leagues experience. Couple that with Nigel's own experience, the fact Saints have only ONE player with any decent premier league experience and a club head honcho that has no history in football its clear where the real problem is. The solution is not a good one if you are in NAs position, it means having your position look undermined and getting in some help. The evidence of this is clear after our 8 games. Its not quality thats has undone us, its having that bit of "cuteness" I believe is the correct football term and that only comes with experience. We busily signed attacking "talent" when in my opinion we should have been looking at where the advice was going to come from ? I think it was assumed we could get off to some sort of a start by outscoring teams and then find our feet. This was undersestimating the premier league imo.

How does signing Yoshida, Gazza, Clyne, Davies prove we were busy signing attacking talent?

warrens 76 wrote:

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

I think he will be shown fantastic support on sunday..we all should stick together, quick fix huckster's may give us 5 minutes of 'success' then what, no money, no youth integration, no loyalty, who wants that again..

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Southampton has always ben crap at promoting itself to it's catchment area...it has always had a sense of entitlement to the support which is why there are so many plastic fans of mufco, the ars e nal, and so forth...no real sense of community..alienatin

g the echo and the media at large started big time with Lowe (very) but NC has not been much better.

Sfc had a great profile in the mainstream media under big Lawrie becuase he knew had to work them, indeed we were many neutrals favorite football team in the early 80's..

Think on this, when average players can command 50.000 per week...( 8 mini buses a week..400 a year!) how hard would it be to sponsor most secondary schools within a 30 mile radius...except east..with a SFC minibus, free tickets, flags, training tours and on and on making all southern kids realise to be a 'south'erner is to be a 'South'ampton fan...

Our large scale media and "effective" community work is crap..we ever want to be a permanent top ten team then the area has got to live and breathe SFC, it does not and that is a complete lack of vision inside the club.

Be warned BHA could end up a bigger club than us...and i have no pleasure in saying it.

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

TEBOURBA wrote:
NA is shell shocked by his early experience in the PL, it is a different world, just look at his post match interview last Saturday, he was practically in tears.
It's like moving a very bright, capable, top of the class, 5 year old in to a class of 8 year olds.
Without any additional help the 5 year old will crumble under the pressure.
For NA to say he intends to carry on with the same tactics, just underlines how much he is struggling.
If he doesn't change his ideas then neither will the results.
There is no one at SMS on or off the pitch with PL experence.
Like the majority of fans I want NA to stay as long as Ted Bates did!
How difficult can it be to get an experienced coach in, on a short term basis, to help NA find his feet in the
PL? --- what sensible objections could anyone have to this idea ?--- it would help NA and the team.
It needs a caring Chairman, who understands the game, to support NA in his hour of need and make this happen.
Maybe that's what's lacking.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Southampton has always ben crap at promoting itself to it's catchment area...it has always had a sense of entitlement to the support which is why there are so many plastic fans of mufco, the ars e nal, and so forth...no real sense of community..alienatin


g the echo and the media at large started big time with Lowe (very) but NC has not been much better.

Sfc had a great profile in the mainstream media under big Lawrie becuase he knew had to work them, indeed we were many neutrals favorite football team in the early 80's..

Think on this, when average players can command 50.000 per week...( 8 mini buses a week..400 a year!) how hard would it be to sponsor most secondary schools within a 30 mile radius...except east..with a SFC minibus, free tickets, flags, training tours and on and on making all southern kids realise to be a 'south'erner is to be a 'South'ampton fan...

Our large scale media and "effective" community work is crap..we ever want to be a permanent top ten team then the area has got to live and breathe SFC, it does not and that is a complete lack of vision inside the club.

Be warned BHA could end up a bigger club than us...and i have no pleasure in saying it.

To be honest, if they did I wouldn't begrudge them, in fact I would be a bit envious, I was always suspicious when they fell away towards the end of our Promotion Season, it seemed to me, that they realised, that, at the time they weren't ready for the Premier and chickened out, I thought at the time they were quite capable of making it and may have excelled over WHU? May be delusional, but just a thought. This seasons Championship is very competitive around the top, so it is no foregone conclusion that they will succeed this time, but I wish them luck, it can only be good to have more Southern sides in the top echelon.

randre wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

I think he will be shown fantastic support on sunday..we all should stick together, quick fix huckster's may give us 5 minutes of 'success' then what, no money, no youth integration, no loyalty, who wants that again..

Absolutely Warrens 76, I couldn't agree more.

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

What on here would you class as modern media?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
NA is shell shocked by his early experience in the PL, it is a different world, just look at his post match interview last Saturday, he was practically in tears.
It's like moving a very bright, capable, top of the class, 5 year old in to a class of 8 year olds.
Without any additional help the 5 year old will crumble under the pressure.
For NA to say he intends to carry on with the same tactics, just underlines how much he is struggling.
If he doesn't change his ideas then neither will the results.
There is no one at SMS on or off the pitch with PL experence.
Like the majority of fans I want NA to stay as long as Ted Bates did!
How difficult can it be to get an experienced coach in, on a short term basis, to help NA find his feet in the
PL? --- what sensible objections could anyone have to this idea ?--- it would help NA and the team.
It needs a caring Chairman, who understands the game, to support NA in his hour of need and make this happen.
Maybe that's what's lacking.

A very good analogy, but the truth is, as we keep saying, that we don't know for sure, you can only take what NA said about his relationship with NC in his previous interviews, as the truth. It could change if we don't get some results, but no point in speculating it isn't helping the mood.

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:
If he goes it wont be like a magic wand to start winning games but, I do think if he keeps saying he wont change the playing style that could be his undoing.
Football is a business at the end of the day not just a game.
Why cant he just say look, this style has not worked lets try plan b, there is too much quality in this league who can change a game in 2 minutes like on Saturday.

I also think the club has snookered itself with regards coaching and tactical expertise.... Nigel brought with him his own assistant who was also a defensive coach. The trouble is that assistant only had lower leagues experience. Couple that with Nigel's own experience, the fact Saints have only ONE player with any decent premier league experience and a club head honcho that has no history in football its clear where the real problem is. The solution is not a good one if you are in NAs position, it means having your position look undermined and getting in some help. The evidence of this is clear after our 8 games. Its not quality thats has undone us, its having that bit of "cuteness" I believe is the correct football term and that only comes with experience. We busily signed attacking "talent" when in my opinion we should have been looking at where the advice was going to come from ? I think it was assumed we could get off to some sort of a start by outscoring teams and then find our feet. This was undersestimating the premier league imo.

How does signing Yoshida, Gazza, Clyne, Davies prove we were busy signing attacking talent?

Yoshida has been playing full back. He is clearly not one. We now have FOUR goalkeepers with KD the best. We have Fonte and Fox as first choices with cover nowhere to be seen. Clyne was the only banker. meanwhile we pay way over the odds for JayRod, 12million on a player we kicked to high heaven in training, a great african with pace we never see play !? While I admire NAs attacking instincts and applaud his ethos of passing,,,,, we certainly have not "built from the back" by any stretch of the imagination. And looking back at the 8 games, thank god we kept hold of JP....

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

What on here would you class as modern media?

the software selected what to re-print at no cost in selected publications both printed and online. Its a no brainer. they need space filled to sell advertising. footy stuff is easy-peasy brainless and popular. google Saints FC corporate promotions and you see there is nothing there, no meta tags at work, nothing.

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

What on here would you class as modern media?

the software selected what to re-print at no cost in selected publications both printed and online. Its a no brainer. they need space filled to sell advertising. footy stuff is easy-peasy brainless and popular. google Saints FC corporate promotions and you see there is nothing there, no meta tags at work, nothing.

Did the same for Arsenal and got nothing.

kent141 wrote:
If Spurs win on sunday the knives will be out for Nigel big time, Mickey Wall is available and looking for a top managerial job, he could be the answer.

randre wrote:

kent141 wrote:
If Spurs win on sunday the knives will be out for Nigel big time, Mickey Wall is available and looking for a top managerial job, he could be the answer.

So is Mickey Mouse.

kent141 wrote:

randre wrote:

kent141 wrote:
If Spurs win on sunday the knives will be out for Nigel big time, Mickey Wall is available and looking for a top managerial job, he could be the answer.

So is Mickey Mouse.

I bet you believe in the tooth fairy, do you really think Mickey Mouse could run the club ?

randre wrote:

kent141 wrote:
If Spurs win on sunday the knives will be out for Nigel big time, Mickey Wall is available and looking for a top managerial job, he could be the answer.

So is Mickey Mouse.

Confucious wrote:

Confucious wrote:
My motto is: "Always answer an honest question and answer it honestly."

My wife will provide testimony to my good faith in this - and I have numerous bruises as evidence.

In the interest of fellow Saints and NHS budgetary problems, I would exclude answering with total frankness the question: "Does my bum look big in this?"

M Clarke wrote:
This feud between The Echo and Saints does neither side any justice. Having spoken to a friend who works for The Echo I suspect that more of the blame lies with the Club. Both need to understand that they need each other. The Club need good publicity and the accurate reporting of News and the paper needs to get behind the Club. It's about time Mr Cortese and the Editor sat down together and sorted out their differences.

Confucious wrote:
My motto is: "Always answer an honest question and answer it honestly."

My wife will provide testimony to my good faith in this - and I have numerous bruises as evidence.

mack chinnon wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
First thing Alan Pardew did was lock the gate at training to reporters who previously had almost open access.

Silence from SMS is business as usual.

For the Magic Roundabout fans out there: Name one possible alternative manager?

Harry - no way.. the fans would completely revolt and boycott.

Rafa... possible but how much would be want to spend at Christmas and how many feathers would he ruffle..

GLVialli? come on surely his record is so poor and he's out of touch.

GWS.. nope.. his win record outside of scotland is less than 33% (half that of Nigel.

Kevin Keegan? lost his first 8 games straight at newcastle...then he started to win a few by using 433 system!

ANy of the above could see us go down.. would any of them stick it out and bring us back? Nope!

Nigel Adkins has my support. Bit of ars kicking and nursing the wounded legs and egos back from shell shock for now, Add a couple of players in at Christmas and we'll be off like a robbers dog.

Still only a couple of wins from mid table... .COYR together as one!!!!

We will get people asking for Steve Kean next,Dan.

RedArmy1 wrote:
We are not going to give spurs an easy game Sunday.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON'S FAMOUS RED ARMY.

We will be in the Bridge - Chapel - Northam Club - King Alfred - Prince of Wales - Joshua Tree - Royal Oak- Station.

WE FIGHT FOR A FAMOUS VICTORY.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY,
COYR.

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

What on here would you class as modern media?

the software selected what to re-print at no cost in selected publications both printed and online. Its a no brainer. they need space filled to sell advertising. footy stuff is easy-peasy brainless and popular. google Saints FC corporate promotions and you see there is nothing there, no meta tags at work, nothing.

Did the same for Arsenal and got nothing.

I think you will find Arsenal corporate boxes are full, and are booked fully until the 23rd century.

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

st1halo wrote:

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

Like to see L Shaw given a go too (see my post yesterday). Put Fox left midfield to give him cover, make one of the CBs a regular choice and put him in charge. Stick with a goalie.Take away Adams captaincy and leave him upfront behind Rickie to run channels, drop Guly




STID

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Southampton has always ben crap at promoting itself to it's catchment area...it has always had a sense of entitlement to the support which is why there are so many plastic fans of mufco, the ars e nal, and so forth...no real sense of community..alienatin



g the echo and the media at large started big time with Lowe (very) but NC has not been much better.

Sfc had a great profile in the mainstream media under big Lawrie becuase he knew had to work them, indeed we were many neutrals favorite football team in the early 80's..

Think on this, when average players can command 50.000 per week...( 8 mini buses a week..400 a year!) how hard would it be to sponsor most secondary schools within a 30 mile radius...except east..with a SFC minibus, free tickets, flags, training tours and on and on making all southern kids realise to be a 'south'erner is to be a 'South'ampton fan...

Our large scale media and "effective" community work is crap..we ever want to be a permanent top ten team then the area has got to live and breathe SFC, it does not and that is a complete lack of vision inside the club.

Be warned BHA could end up a bigger club than us...and i have no pleasure in saying it.

To be honest, if they did I wouldn't begrudge them, in fact I would be a bit envious, I was always suspicious when they fell away towards the end of our Promotion Season, it seemed to me, that they realised, that, at the time they weren't ready for the Premier and chickened out, I thought at the time they were quite capable of making it and may have excelled over WHU? May be delusional, but just a thought. This seasons Championship is very competitive around the top, so it is no foregone conclusion that they will succeed this time, but I wish them luck, it can only be good to have more Southern sides in the top echelon.

Green shoes

Dickosfc wrote:
According to Physioroom (normally pretty accurate), Jack Cork is due back on the 5th November. He would definately add to our defensive side of things.
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jury_table.php

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

swesaint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
Nigel should stay.

Little Saints and making friends with the echo....I think results will make more little saints than resolving things with the Echo. 2 promotions so far helps in that respect. Improving up the table will do that. Getting a European spot in a few years time will do that too. And I BELIEVE THAT NIGEL IS THE MAN TO GET US THERE.

As for revenue streams yes I suppose getting publicity will help generate a small amount of income in the local area, but i feel that generating interest across the world will generate more. Generating income in the African and Asian markets for instance.

We haven't seen the best of Tad Lee, Yoshida or Mayuka yet, for various reasons but I feel in time they will cement their place in the team, come good and perform regularly (in position) and help us get the results we need to progress in this division while leading to increased merchandising sales overseas far and beyond what is being lost by not talking to the Echo.

And I believe too that in time the Echo will come to the Club cap in hand because they will want to be part of the success and support the Club rather than look to dig the dirt.

All of which will only happen if NC keeps faith in NA imho.

the echo are not the loosers in the boycott.... here are some of the publications NC is also boycotting de facto :

Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Yes some of these are fairly far flung but footy fans travel....

Saints are missing out on huge advertising and promotion potential and fail to appreciate the way a club should be marketted.

There is no expertise in the club to embrace modern media and advertising potential to try and attract new fans and new interest.

What on here would you class as modern media?

the software selected what to re-print at no cost in selected publications both printed and online. Its a no brainer. they need space filled to sell advertising. footy stuff is easy-peasy brainless and popular. google Saints FC corporate promotions and you see there is nothing there, no meta tags at work, nothing.

Did the same for Arsenal and got nothing.

I think you will find Arsenal corporate boxes are full, and are booked fully until the 23rd century.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That!

I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it.
The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say.
If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards?
The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Southampton has always ben crap at promoting itself to it's catchment area...it has always had a sense of entitlement to the support which is why there are so many plastic fans of mufco, the ars e nal, and so forth...no real sense of community..alienatin




g the echo and the media at large started big time with Lowe (very) but NC has not been much better.

Sfc had a great profile in the mainstream media under big Lawrie becuase he knew had to work them, indeed we were many neutrals favorite football team in the early 80's..

Think on this, when average players can command 50.000 per week...( 8 mini buses a week..400 a year!) how hard would it be to sponsor most secondary schools within a 30 mile radius...except east..with a SFC minibus, free tickets, flags, training tours and on and on making all southern kids realise to be a 'south'erner is to be a 'South'ampton fan...

Our large scale media and "effective" community work is crap..we ever want to be a permanent top ten team then the area has got to live and breathe SFC, it does not and that is a complete lack of vision inside the club.

Be warned BHA could end up a bigger club than us...and i have no pleasure in saying it.

To be honest, if they did I wouldn't begrudge them, in fact I would be a bit envious, I was always suspicious when they fell away towards the end of our Promotion Season, it seemed to me, that they realised, that, at the time they weren't ready for the Premier and chickened out, I thought at the time they were quite capable of making it and may have excelled over WHU? May be delusional, but just a thought. This seasons Championship is very competitive around the top, so it is no foregone conclusion that they will succeed this time, but I wish them luck, it can only be good to have more Southern sides in the top echelon.

Green shoes

Yes, I have been walking my Jack Russell and they have just cut the grass while it was wet, it gets everywhere, and no he hasn't got a Revenue Avoiding Bank Account in a dodgy Tax Haven.

warrens 76 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
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Asian Eye
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Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
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Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
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Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
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Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
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Wiltshire Star
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Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

And your head!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

ToastyTea wrote:
Dear Echo - This is the reason why you are hated by Cortese and any true Saints fan. Keep stirring the pot and enjoy not being welcome at SMS. We don't need you.

MGRA wrote:

ToastyTea wrote: Dear Echo - This is the reason why you are hated by Cortese and any true Saints fan. Keep stirring the pot and enjoy not being welcome at SMS. We don't need you.

why are you posting on here then ? your posting here is logged and helped to verify and promote advertising banners... by being here you are supporting the echo and its income directly !

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

soton3009 wrote: They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

That! I try to remain impartial regarding the Echo/NC feud, but, with articles like this, is it any wonder the situation hasn't been resolved.

Strange how so many saints fans flock' to this web site, proof in the number of posts, yet the club refuses to deal with it. The echo is a decent local media with many of sfc customers reading it but ignored by the club. Is that good business?

A football analyst was quoted on Radio Solent last christmas. He said the media boycott would end up costing Saints about £150,000 per month in lost revenue at least. A caller made the point too about the empty hospitality and the lack of promotion. A former Saint manager also called in and said it was "crazy" to boycott local media.

All publicity is good publicity' that's what they say. If schwi-man was any where near as shrewd as they say surely he would use this local media to his own rewards? The evidence is mounting by the day, how can 1 bloke be so destructive. It is alleged that when left in a room alone he upsets himself!

he has business skills. many very successfull business people have no social or interpersonal skills whatsoever so that par for the course. But the football business is about developing revenue streams in all directions. I dont think SFC understand the reach of "local" media. For them its about a hissy fit with a local paper, when the reality is they are switching off the opportunity to promote the club over a huge area covering 3-5 million people. The focus is clear, the SKY money is the only show in town.

Southampton has always ben crap at promoting itself to it's catchment area...it has always had a sense of entitlement to the support which is why there are so many plastic fans of mufco, the ars e nal, and so forth...no real sense of community..alienatin g the echo and the media at large started big time with Lowe (very) but NC has not been much better. Sfc had a great profile in the mainstream media under big Lawrie becuase he knew had to work them, indeed we were many neutrals favorite football team in the early 80's.. Think on this, when average players can command 50.000 per week...( 8 mini buses a week..400 a year!) how hard would it be to sponsor most secondary schools within a 30 mile radius...except east..with a SFC minibus, free tickets, flags, training tours and on and on making all southern kids realise to be a 'south'erner is to be a 'South'ampton fan... Our large scale media and "effective" community work is crap..we ever want to be a permanent top ten team then the area has got to live and breathe SFC, it does not and that is a complete lack of vision inside the club. Be warned BHA could end up a bigger club than us...and i have no pleasure in saying it.

randre wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote: NA is shell shocked by his early experience in the PL, it is a different world, just look at his post match interview last Saturday, he was practically in tears. It's like moving a very bright, capable, top of the class, 5 year old in to a class of 8 year olds. Without any additional help the 5 year old will crumble under the pressure. For NA to say he intends to carry on with the same tactics, just underlines how much he is struggling. If he doesn't change his ideas then neither will the results. There is no one at SMS on or off the pitch with PL experence. Like the majority of fans I want NA to stay as long as Ted Bates did! How difficult can it be to get an experienced coach in, on a short term basis, to help NA find his feet in the PL? --- what sensible objections could anyone have to this idea ?--- it would help NA and the team. It needs a caring Chairman, who understands the game, to support NA in his hour of need and make this happen. Maybe that's what's lacking.

A very good analogy, but the truth is, as we keep saying, that we don't know for sure, you can only take what NA said about his relationship with NC in his previous interviews, as the truth. It could change if we don't get some results, but no point in speculating it isn't helping the mood.

If Saints did bring in an experienced person to help I fear this would be as good as sacking Adkins. I don't believe for a second Nigel would accept this. Whilst many may think that NA is being dictated to by the powers that be at St Mary's, I don't think for a second that is the case. I think if you look at the way Nigel Adkins operates he is a man of principle and no push over. Right the way back to when he was at Scunny and the way he left there to join Southampton, it was on his terms with his head held high. I think Nigel Adkins is a proud man who will do it his way, his footballing methodology are a huge part of the Southampton way. I am sure that NA would walk if Nicola brought in somebody to work with him, the only way this could happen is if it was somebody that Nigel Adkins knew and somebody he may think he could work with. Otherwise it won't happen, in my opinion.

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

ghk230473 wrote:

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

You boys are fcuk'd ............... Proper fcukd

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
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Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
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Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

I thought the story in the Forest Post last week................



the one about the sex change Bishop, who on the wettest day since records began, made a mercy dash to Buckingham Palace to help an ill X Factor contendor who was having an affair with a cabinet minister's drug addicted daughter who's married to that Prem footballer who adored Jimmy Savile yet called Nelson Mandela a sh!te and then kidnapped and tortured his beloved one-eyed cat Cetewayo.........

had just about everything.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

I thought the story in the Forest Post last week................




the one about the sex change Bishop, who on the wettest day since records began, made a mercy dash to Buckingham Palace to help an ill X Factor contendor who was having an affair with a cabinet minister's drug addicted daughter who's married to that Prem footballer who adored Jimmy Savile yet called Nelson Mandela a sh!te and then kidnapped and tortured his beloved one-eyed cat Cetewayo.........

had just about everything.

Bugga I missed that on.

MGRA wrote:
many european teams revert to 4-2-3-1 when they are leaking goals. Tends to kill games a bit but , less goals ( both ends ).

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Confucious wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Andover Advertiser
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser, Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Basingstoke Gazette
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Chard & Ilminster News
Cheltenham Independent
County Independent
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser
Gazette and Herald, Wiltshire
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
New Forest Post
NewsExtra, Eastleigh Winchester
Oxfordshire Herald
Oxford Star
Property Weekly
Salisbury Journal
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southern Property Advertiser
Surrey Comet
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The Shuttle
Packet Newspapers
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Yeovil Express

Is it because there is no information about the Saints in any of them is the reason why I have never read a single copy of any of them? No mention of the Lymington Times I see, I have read that but it makes your arms ache.

I thought the story in the Forest Post last week................





the one about the sex change Bishop, who on the wettest day since records began, made a mercy dash to Buckingham Palace to help an ill X Factor contendor who was having an affair with a cabinet minister's drug addicted daughter who's married to that Prem footballer who adored Jimmy Savile yet called Nelson Mandela a sh!te and then kidnapped and tortured his beloved one-eyed cat Cetewayo.........

had just about everything.

Bugga I missed that on.

One even! Which isn't even it's odd but you know what I mean.

elvisimo wrote:

alanrr wrote:
for heaven's sake we haven't played the lesser teams yet..............we' ll know more by christmas .........i, for one, would like to see adkins stay

west ham, wigan, Fulham? they have got to be the sides you take your points off of.

That said who else is out there. We do not want or need Dirty Harry.

Leave him be and lets hope for a massive improvement - especially on some of his slightly odd substitutions.

Anyway - he is doing a better job that I could.

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

Baddesley Bill wrote:

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

Come on Stenenage

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
many european teams revert to 4-2-3-1 when they are leaking goals. Tends to kill games a bit but , less goals ( both ends ).

'Fewer', MGRA, you mean 'fewer goals (both ends)'.

Anyway, from what the ever-reliable Daily Echo wrote and from what I saw, we started with 4-2-3-1 on Saturday, no?

.......... We know the back four, then Davis&Spiderman; Punch, Guly&Lallana; and Jay up front.

For what it's worth, that's a formation I'd be regularly considering away from home. However, at home, I'd start 4-3-3, but with something of the 4-1-2-1-2 feel about it. Either way, whether I agree or disagree with them (or the selections), I'm more than happy to let Nigel make his decisions because he knows his players and the opposition much better than me.

saintsmith123 wrote:
As a local paper you should be supporting your local team, instead of trying to stir things and make news up.

You should have learned by now that NC doesn't speak to any press at all. All things are discussed in house.

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

MGRA wrote:

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

Echo will have a field day for a decade if Mr Envelope returns and ruins the club.... Still there is one silver lining for the happy clappy brigade on here... If 'gertcha' returns then I won't post here anymore.... should please many...

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

Echo will have a field day for a decade if Mr Envelope returns and ruins the club.... Still there is one silver lining for the happy clappy brigade on here... If 'gertcha' returns then I won't post here anymore.... should please many...

Rest assured MGRA. If that ever happened, I would rescind my happy clapper status...

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

PTID1898 wrote:
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight

Baddesley Bill wrote:

gunno wrote:
Contractors at staplewood locked away. For an hour today as harry redshat. Shown. Round training ground

Did anyone check that the lead for the roof was still there when he left?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

st1halo wrote:

randre wrote:
I would be gutted if Nigel Adkins is sacked, I simply can't think of any other manager who I would rather have at this moment in time. I think he is a breath of fresh air in football management. I truly felt for him during his interview after the West Ham game, he looked like a man who clearly has pressure on him. I think as a club we need to stand strong and together, show we are different by not getting tangled up in the media circus and following the usual pattern of other clubs. At the first time of trouble since Adkins took over we as fans seem, in most cases, to be showing a strong unity and support for the man. I hope that the club are also doing this, but I don't need them to tell me, I just want them to tell Nigel. Then Nigel can move forward and do his job. I hope in the corridors of power at St Mary's talks are taking place between Nicola and Nigel that confirm the support the club have for him.

This was never going to be easy and I really do think that when Ramirez & Cork are back in the side we will improve.

My only criticism of Nigel would be the defensive areas, I do feel the pressure on Nigel has affected his judgement here. I would like to see him settle on a keeper and give him a good run in the side, it takes time for a keeper to settle and understand the defense. But then I don't know what has happened in training, so I can't be too harsh on Nigel on this without knowing the facts. I would also like to see young Luke Shaw given an opportunity. I know he is young, but if your good enough your old enough. But again, I am not seeing what goes on in training every day, so this is Nigel's decision.

As Nigel clearly stated in a very honest interview that he picks the team and he will stand or fall from his decisions.

I hope Nigel and Nicola can keep their heads, when all around them are losing theirs! Pressure can cause a manager to make strange decisions, I hope the club can help him with a few simple words (to Nigel, not to the media)... "We support you"! He may then just be able to pull it round.

But one thing is for sure... I SUPPORT NIGEL ADKINS.

Like to see L Shaw given a go too (see my post yesterday). Put Fox left midfield to give him cover, make one of the CBs a regular choice and put him in charge. Stick with a goalie.Take away Adams captaincy and leave him upfront behind Rickie to run channels, drop Guly




STID

Shaw was injured in the U21's game and is out of the equation.

soton3009 wrote:
They NEVER comment! It has always been the same. Same as Adkins on transfers.Might be frustrating but hey. This is a complete NON-Story.

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
NA deserves to be given a full season in the Premiership. He has led the club to two promotions. He is entitled to have the chance to develop his judgement in the top flight. He deserves to be allowed to make misakes. All good managers, in and out of football, are better for one or two failures. As a season ticket holder, the only comment I would make is that the defence doesn't seem to be organised. Zonal marking can be a complicated message to communicate, especially when there may be language problems. I would close man-mark again Nigel, as it is easier for everyone to understand and accountability is clearer. Good luck! Remember it is afterall a sport first and foremost, so don't stop enjoying the challenge!”

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
NA deserves to be given a full season in the Premiership. He has led the club to two promotions. He is entitled to have the chance to develop his judgement in the top flight. He deserves to be allowed to make misakes. All good managers, in and out of football, are better for one or two failures. As a season ticket holder, the only comment I would make is that the defence doesn't seem to be organised. Zonal marking can be a complicated message to communicate, especially when there may be language problems. I would close man-mark again Nigel, as it is easier for everyone to understand and accountability is clearer. Good luck! Remember it is afterall a sport first and foremost, so don't stop enjoying the challenge!”