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4:58pm

QPR's 1-0 defeat at Stoke means that Saints move up to 19th in the Premier League table. Reading's draw at Norwich keeps the Royals a point ahead of Nigel Adkins' men. That's it from us today - thanks for joining us. We'll have reaction from the manager on the website shortly. A full report, as well as quotes from the Saints camp, will be available in this evening's Sports Pink...

4:57pm

FULL-TIME: Saints 1 Swansea 1

4:47pm

PENALTY APPEAL: Adam Lallana again goes down in the area, claiming he was tripped by Garry Monk in the 85th minute, but Andre Marriner again ignores his appeals.

4:34pm

GOAL Saints 1 Swansea 1 (Dyer 73): Saints shoot themselves in the foot with a terrible piece of defending. Paulo Gazzaniga chips a poor pass out to Maya Yoshida, who struggled to control the ball and was dispossessed by ex-Saint Nathan Dyer. The winger raced forward, before looking up and firing a skidding shot across goal and in off the far post.

4:24pm

GOAL: Saints 1 Swansea 0 (Schneiderlin 64): A delivery from the left is nodded back across goal by Rickie Lambert. Morgan Schneiderlin chests the ball forward and then nods it home from close range.

4:20pm

CHANCE: The ball falls to Rickie Lambert in space in the area, but as he winds up for a thumping left-foot shot in the 59th minute, Ki Sung-Yeung slid in to produce a brilliant saving tackle.

4:18pm

CHANCE: Wayne Routledge fires Pablo Hernandez's cutback just over the bar from 18 yards in the 56th minute, as Swansea break down the right. Routledge is then withdrawn for ex-Saints winger Nathan Dyer.

4:13pm

CHANCE: Saints press Swansea back in the early stages, but Schneiderlin loses out to Michu in midfield, with the visitors breaking forward and Angel Rangel hitting a deflected shot behind from 25 yards in the 52nd minute.

3:50pm

HALF-TIME: Saints 0 Swansea 0

3:43pm

PENALTY APPEAL: Adam Lallana goes to ground under pressure from Angel Rangel in the 39th minute, but referee Andre Marriner waves play on. Looked like the correct decision.

3:40pm

CHANCE: Gaston Ramirez is fouled 30 yards out, leading to a booking for Ashley Williams in the 36th minute. From the resulting free-kick, the Uruguayan produces a disguised chip to the back post, finding Jose Fonte unmarked. His ball across the face is blocked by Ben Davies, before Fonte pounces on the rebound, only to be denied again at close range by the defender.

3:30pm

CHANCE: Gaston Ramirez works room just outside the area in the 26th minute and, as a couple of Swansea players dive in front of him, he unleashes a stinging left foot shot that flashes just wide of the post.

3:23pm

CHANCE: Swansea with their first real effort of the contest, as the ball is worked to Ki Sung-Yeung just inside the corner of the penalty box. He hits a powerful left foot shot that Paulo Gazzaniga has to turn round his near post in the 20th minute.

3:19pm

CHANCE: Adam Lallana 's volley on the turn in the 15th minute forces a good save from Gerhard Tremmel in the Swansea goal. Gaston Ramirez then hits a low shot just wide of the post a minute later.

3:13pm

CHANCE: Little in the way of goalmouth action in the opening stages, as Swansea retain a huge amount of possession, but Saints do start chipping away and create an opportunity in the tenth minute, as Jason Puncheon lays the ball off the Morgan Schneiderlin on the edge of the area. The Frenchman's right foot shot goes high and wide, however.

2:56pm

The players are out on the pitch. Kick-off now just minutes away. Stay with us for updates throughout the match.

2:31pm

 

He [Luke Shaw] might have figured a little bit earlier but what we've got is a young player with huge potential. What we've got to do is nurture him correctly because he is still a young boy who is growing up. What we have to do is extract as much potential out of him and he has got to do that himself. I believe he has got a good environment where he can do that.

Nigel Adkins on Luke Shaw

2:17pm

Saints make three changes from the team that lost 2-0 at West Brom last Monday. Danny Fox is dropped for Luke Shaw, with the 17-year-old becoming the youngest ever player to start a Premier League game for the club. Jack Cork returns from injury to make his first league start of the season, with Steven Davis dropping to the bench. Jason Puncheon comes in for Jay Rodriguez. Swansea are unchanged from the side that drew 1-1 with Chelsea last weekend.

2:14pm

THE LINE-UPS

Saints: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Cork, Schneiderlin, Puncheon, Ramirez, Lallana, Lambert.

Subs:  K Davis, Hooiveld, Fox, S Davis, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Rodriguez.

Swansea: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams, Monk, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Ki, Hernandez, Routledge, Michu.

Subs: Cornell, Tate, Tiendalli, Agustien, Dyer, Moore, Shechter.

Referee: Andre Marriner

1:51pm

FORM GUIDE

Saints (last six league matches): W L D L L L

Swansea (last six league matches): L L D W L D

Saints top scorer (league only): Rickie Lambert 4

Swansea top scorer (league only): Michu 6

1:37pm

1:35pm

 

If you win two games, suddenly things can change for you in this league, and that can happen for Southampton. I don’t want to see any manager lose his job and of course I have sympathy for Nigel Adkins because he is a colleague. We know that when things are going well it’s because of the players and manager, but when they are not so good it’s just the manager. I wish him the best, but only after this weekend. They (the players) will really want to win for him. If he goes and another manager comes in, you never know what happens to you as a player. And they are all aware that if they end up back in the Championship, their whole life changes. We are going to be playing a team who could not be more motivated, and we have to match that. If we play with same focus and concentration as them, I am sure we have the quality to get something there, whether it is one point or three.

Swansea manager Michael Laudrup

1:34pm

Swansea manager Michael Laudrup has also weighed in on the subject, and has reassured Adkins that brighter times could well lie ahead soon. His comments coming up in a moment...

1:29pm

 

The relationship between me and the chairman is very good, which is an important one at any football club. I would imagine there would be loads of speculation about different things, but it is strong and it is good. We talk regularly as we have always done and we’re determined to make this a success. There is no need to speak about my position. It is a football club determined to be successful. We obviously spoke in the summer about our strategies and we’re working very hard. We’ve now had 10 games of the season and obviously only picked four points up. We sit at the bottom. That’s fact, that’s reality. As we always do at the football club, we assess situations. We have to accept where we are but then we look forward and move on. We’re obviously looking at the next run of games. We take one game at a time in respect to the next one which is at the weekend against Swansea. We are focused on winning that. Let’s not hide away from the fact that in football at some stage there is always a parting of the ways between a manager and a football club. I am determined to be a success here at Southampton Football Club, the chairman is determined to be a success here at Southampton Football Club so we both share the same ambition. What we do is we get on. There doesn’t need to be any talk about it. We will be a success here.

Saints manager Nigel Adkins

1:27pm

In what has now become something of a weekly tradition, Saints manager Nigel Adkins was on Thursday quizzed about his future at the club and his relationship with chairman Nicola Cortese. A full story is available to read, but the manager’s comments will follow in a moment here...

1:16pm

SWANSEA SQUAD NEWS: Manager Michael Laudrup has no new injury troubles. Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as “very doubtful” as he continues to recover from a dead leg. That means that former Saints player Garry Monk, who was at the club from 1996 until 2004, is set to continue at centre half. Another of the club’s old players, winger Nathan Dyer, will be among the Swansea squad.

1:08pm

SAINTS SQUAD NEWS: Goalkeeper Artur Boruc is available for selection. The 32-year-old had been under investigation by the club for allegedly throwing a water bottle at home supporters in the 2-1 defeat against Spurs two weeks ago. Boruc had been left out of contention since that match, but the club have announced he is available again. Midfielder Jack Cork is also fit after a knee injury and could make his first league appearance of the season.

1:02pm

Good afternoon and welcome to the Daily Echo’s blog covering today’s Premier League contest between Saints and Swansea. Nigel Adkins remains at the helm, having emerged from talks with chairman Nicola Cortese on Tuesday with his job intact. Patience is running thin at St Mary’s, however, and the manager is in need of a positive result today if he wants to be sure of being given further time in charge. Saints, who are bottom of the table with four points from ten games, can at least take heart from returning to home soil. It is at St Mary’s where the club have garnered all of their points so far this season, and while a win this afternoon cannot take them out of the relegation zone, it could move them up to 18th. Their opponents, Swansea, are enjoying the comfortable surroundings of mid-table, with their 12 points so far this campaign having put them into 11th place. But Michael Laudrup’s team haven’t picked up a point away from home since the opening day of the season, when they dismantled QPR 5-0 at Loftus Road. They did, however, win 3-1 at Liverpool in the Capital One Cup in their last match away from the Liberty Stadium, while they suffered a narrow 1-0 defeat at Manchester City days before that game and drew 1-1 at home with Chelsea last weekend. Stay with us for the build-up, team news and match updates.

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1:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

MGRA says...

4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....
4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag.... MGRA
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1:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

magnette says...

Gazza
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb

please Nigel

They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
Gazza clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox ram davis punch Mayuka lamb please Nigel They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?! magnette
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1:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Signing in from Norge...
Please please please get 3 points, not just for Saints but for Nigel too.
I hope he stays but a poor result today just has to be the final nail in the bus tyre
Signing in from Norge... Please please please get 3 points, not just for Saints but for Nigel too. I hope he stays but a poor result today just has to be the final nail in the bus tyre Norwegian Saint
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1:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

magnette wrote:
Gazza
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb

please Nigel

They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy
[quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: Gazza clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox ram davis punch Mayuka lamb please Nigel They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?![/p][/quote]as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy up saints
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1:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Velleity says...

I'd expect Jack Cork to get a run. Suspect NA might start with him and sub him if he slows - same as with Gaston on Monday.

It'll be good to see him back.
I'd expect Jack Cork to get a run. Suspect NA might start with him and sub him if he slows - same as with Gaston on Monday. It'll be good to see him back. Velleity
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1:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Velleity says...

MGRA wrote:
4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....
"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg."

He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: 4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....[/p][/quote]"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg." He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA? Velleity
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1:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12

MGRA says...

Velleity wrote:
MGRA wrote:
4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....
"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg."

He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA?
Velleity articulate debate rated as very doubtful as he continues to cope with a dead brain.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: 4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....[/p][/quote]"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg." He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA?[/p][/quote]Velleity articulate debate rated as very doubtful as he continues to cope with a dead brain. MGRA
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1:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12

magnette says...

up saints wrote:
magnette wrote:
Gazza
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb

please Nigel

They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy
3 I reckon! :D
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: Gazza clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox ram davis punch Mayuka lamb please Nigel They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?![/p][/quote]as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy[/p][/quote]3 I reckon! :D magnette
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1:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

ventnorsaint says...

Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea.
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.

I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?

UP THE SAINTS!
Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea. NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well. I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today? UP THE SAINTS! ventnorsaint
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1:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12

7saint7 says...

very good news about cork being back . Hope he comes on as a sub and not guly. coyr
very good news about cork being back . Hope he comes on as a sub and not guly. coyr 7saint7
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1:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points. JohnItaly
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1:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

ventnorsaint wrote:
Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea.
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.

I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?

UP THE SAINTS!
I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too.
[quote][p][bold]ventnorsaint[/bold] wrote: Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea. NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well. I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today? UP THE SAINTS![/p][/quote]I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too. Rising_Son
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1:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

Rising_Son wrote:
ventnorsaint wrote:
Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea.
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.

I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?

UP THE SAINTS!
I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too.
bloddy redknapp not forgotton the last trip we had with him yet .ask me again in 20 years
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ventnorsaint[/bold] wrote: Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea. NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well. I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today? UP THE SAINTS![/p][/quote]I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too.[/p][/quote]bloddy redknapp not forgotton the last trip we had with him yet .ask me again in 20 years up saints
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2:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail? Rising_Son
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2:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

vag says...

We need to start scoring some goals and quickly. I reckon this will be 2-0 to Saints. COYR.
We need to start scoring some goals and quickly. I reckon this will be 2-0 to Saints. COYR. vag
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2:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

like the starting 11 now the subs please
like the starting 11 now the subs please up saints
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2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

Rising_Son wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Fall out with Le Tissier and poor relations with Lawrie McMenemy and the DE. The cancellation of the annual fans' forum. That alone shows little or no thought for the supporters. I also have evidence, albeit it hearsay, that staff members refer to NC as "that b......d".
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?[/p][/quote]Fall out with Le Tissier and poor relations with Lawrie McMenemy and the DE. The cancellation of the annual fans' forum. That alone shows little or no thought for the supporters. I also have evidence, albeit it hearsay, that staff members refer to NC as "that b......d". JohnItaly
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2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

no guly on the bench either this in my opinion is the best team with subs we have put out all season
no guly on the bench either this in my opinion is the best team with subs we have put out all season up saints
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2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SaintMark says...

@officialsaints: Saints Team: Gazzaniga. Clyne, Yoshida, Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lambert, Ramirez, Cork, Lallana©, Shaw, Puncheon. #saintsfc. :)
@officialsaints: Saints Team: Gazzaniga. Clyne, Yoshida, Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lambert, Ramirez, Cork, Lallana©, Shaw, Puncheon. #saintsfc. :) SaintMark
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2:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

Think we have a strong lineup for today, at work so not gonna be able to watch the match. Suddenly feeling very ill and might need to go home for some rest i think!.
Think we have a strong lineup for today, at work so not gonna be able to watch the match. Suddenly feeling very ill and might need to go home for some rest i think!. saintsupnorth
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2:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

MGRA says...

4-2-3-1 it is then.... cork and spiderman holding deeper positions, lalla, ramirez and punch across the middle and Sir Rickie up front..
4-2-3-1 it is then.... cork and spiderman holding deeper positions, lalla, ramirez and punch across the middle and Sir Rickie up front.. MGRA
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2:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Red n White says...

I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!!
I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!! Red n White
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2:28pm Sat 10 Nov 12

TEBOURBA says...

JohnItaly --- Cortese could publicly crucify NA on the SMS centre spot
and when the last nail is being hammered in, the Happy Clappers would still believe he's backing Nigel.
Of course, to them, the Daily Mail, the Echo, the Sun, MLT, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, are conspirators
There's none so blind as those who will not see.
All the time he was winning, Nigel was OK, with Cortese, it's when the chips are down, good managers like Nigel, need support and help from their chairman, not showdown meetings and ultimatums.
People's characters are best judged by how they deal with adversity not success.
Cortese's actions over the past couple of months, hanging out Nigel to dry without a public word of support says it all about him
The Happy Clappers should remember it was Markus and his money that saved Saints not Cortese.
JohnItaly --- Cortese could publicly crucify NA on the SMS centre spot and when the last nail is being hammered in, the Happy Clappers would still believe he's backing Nigel. Of course, to them, the Daily Mail, the Echo, the Sun, MLT, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, are conspirators There's none so blind as those who will not see. All the time he was winning, Nigel was OK, with Cortese, it's when the chips are down, good managers like Nigel, need support and help from their chairman, not showdown meetings and ultimatums. People's characters are best judged by how they deal with adversity not success. Cortese's actions over the past couple of months, hanging out Nigel to dry without a public word of support says it all about him The Happy Clappers should remember it was Markus and his money that saved Saints not Cortese. TEBOURBA
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2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

At last! No J-Rod!
He has been awful.
Lets hope this squad pull together and sink the Swans!
At last! No J-Rod! He has been awful. Lets hope this squad pull together and sink the Swans! Norwegian Saint
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2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

ventnorsaint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.

Up the Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?[/p][/quote]Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions. How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think? At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back. Up the Saints. ventnorsaint
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2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Skating on thin ice says...

Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.
Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now. Skating on thin ice
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2:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12

St.Yorkie says...

The team has a balance about it today. Playing one out and out striker in Lambert and providing him with 3-avanues of supply - Lallana, Ramirez & Puncheon. Cork and Schneiderlin to sit deep infron to the back four - expect Clyne and Shaw to vwnture forward too. Should be the best team we have had out all season...most balanced between attack and defence!
The team has a balance about it today. Playing one out and out striker in Lambert and providing him with 3-avanues of supply - Lallana, Ramirez & Puncheon. Cork and Schneiderlin to sit deep infron to the back four - expect Clyne and Shaw to vwnture forward too. Should be the best team we have had out all season...most balanced between attack and defence! St.Yorkie
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2:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

good to see all positive comments that will all change when we get the invasion from down the road
good to see all positive comments that will all change when we get the invasion from down the road up saints
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2:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12

1965onwards says...

After reading this morning that NA thought we could attain a place in europe
with this very limited bunch of players,no-one should be in any doubt why we are bottom of the league.Too many people buy into this yankee creed that a positive attitude enables people to defy the laws of physics.Well it don't.
If this truly was NA's thought process in the summer then he should have been sacked then.If he is still maintaining anywhere near this delusional claptrap,he should be sacked now.
After reading this morning that NA thought we could attain a place in europe with this very limited bunch of players,no-one should be in any doubt why we are bottom of the league.Too many people buy into this yankee creed that a positive attitude enables people to defy the laws of physics.Well it don't. If this truly was NA's thought process in the summer then he should have been sacked then.If he is still maintaining anywhere near this delusional claptrap,he should be sacked now. 1965onwards
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2:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SaintMark says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.
D**K
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.[/p][/quote]D**K SaintMark
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2:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

Luuuuuuuuuuuuke
Luuuuuuuuuuuuke GX Saint
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2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SaintJD says...

Great line-up, v happy, Cork will make a difference and Shaw should give us energy and hunger on the left. Still going to be a tough game though, but as long as everyone realises that and sticks with them we should get a result. If we want to win though we'll still have to be at our very best all over the pitch.
Great line-up, v happy, Cork will make a difference and Shaw should give us energy and hunger on the left. Still going to be a tough game though, but as long as everyone realises that and sticks with them we should get a result. If we want to win though we'll still have to be at our very best all over the pitch. SaintJD
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2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

GX Saint wrote:
Luuuuuuuuuuuuke
Better ring to it than Steeeeeeeeeeeeve
[quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: Luuuuuuuuuuuuke[/p][/quote]Better ring to it than Steeeeeeeeeeeeve GX Saint
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2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Folkestone Saint says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.
And what would you lot know about PAYING half let alone 1% of a bill.
WTFILN
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.[/p][/quote]And what would you lot know about PAYING half let alone 1% of a bill. WTFILN Folkestone Saint
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2:56pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Saintsnumbers says...

How great would it be if this is the day we get our first clean sheet?! Alas, can't quite see it. I predict we grind out a nerve-biting 2-1. And may have to come from behind.

Great team lineup. COYR!
How great would it be if this is the day we get our first clean sheet?! Alas, can't quite see it. I predict we grind out a nerve-biting 2-1. And may have to come from behind. Great team lineup. COYR! Saintsnumbers
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3:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

angelsaint says...

Has any one found any live feeds for today's game?
Has any one found any live feeds for today's game? angelsaint
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3:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Come on guys, today's the day!
Come on guys, today's the day! Little Hitler
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3:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

PTID1898 says...

Afternoon all.....
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!! PTID1898
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3:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

PTID1898 wrote:
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury GX Saint
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3:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SaintMark says...

PTID1898 wrote:
Afternoon all.....
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!! SaintMark
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3:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12

PTID1898 says...

GX Saint wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!
[quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury[/p][/quote]Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!! PTID1898
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3:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

PTID1898 wrote:
GX Saint wrote:
PTID1898 wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!
Oh, well no wonder you're a bit subdued this afternoon. 1-0 flatters you - respectable scoreline at that level if you can hang on.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury[/p][/quote]Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!![/p][/quote]Oh, well no wonder you're a bit subdued this afternoon. 1-0 flatters you - respectable scoreline at that level if you can hang on. GX Saint
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3:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

I predict a clean sheet come 5:00.

Bloody cat pee'd all over it this morning but it's in the wash as we speak :-)
I predict a clean sheet come 5:00. Bloody cat pee'd all over it this morning but it's in the wash as we speak :-) Little Hitler
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3:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Red n White says...

angelsaint wrote:
Has any one found any live feeds for today's game?
try first row sports. the links weren't working too well for me, and one showed qpr game instead, but the other links might have been down to my poor internet connection.
[quote][p][bold]angelsaint[/bold] wrote: Has any one found any live feeds for today's game?[/p][/quote]try first row sports. the links weren't working too well for me, and one showed qpr game instead, but the other links might have been down to my poor internet connection. Red n White
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3:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Sounds like a good first half, a few chances and solid at the back.

Bury 1 Portsheath 0
Sounds like a good first half, a few chances and solid at the back. Bury 1 Portsheath 0 Little Hitler
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3:53pm Sat 10 Nov 12

St.Yorkie says...

Fairly even first half - not heard much of Cork - but I guess that's because he is doing his job?
Gaston to score winner in 87th minute!
Fairly even first half - not heard much of Cork - but I guess that's because he is doing his job? Gaston to score winner in 87th minute! St.Yorkie
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3:57pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintshorse101 says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
Fairly even first half - not heard much of Cork - but I guess that's because he is doing his job? Gaston to score winner in 87th minute!
i would take that! sounds like shaw`s having a solid game as well
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: Fairly even first half - not heard much of Cork - but I guess that's because he is doing his job? Gaston to score winner in 87th minute![/p][/quote]i would take that! sounds like shaw`s having a solid game as well saintshorse101
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3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

DisplacedFan says...

SaintMark wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
Afternoon all.....
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!!
And no shots on goal,
[quote][p][bold]SaintMark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!![/p][/quote]And no shots on goal, DisplacedFan
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3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

White and red till dead says...

Anyone else having Player problems?
Anyone else having Player problems? White and red till dead
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3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

ventnorsaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.

Up the Saints.
I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
[quote][p][bold]ventnorsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?[/p][/quote]Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions. How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think? At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that? Rising_Son
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4:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Come on you Saints!!!!
Come on you Saints!!!! Norwegian Saint
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4:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

PTID1898 wrote:
GX Saint wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!
Everton is a good team!!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury[/p][/quote]Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!![/p][/quote]Everton is a good team!! saintsupnorth
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4:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

Rising_Son wrote:
ventnorsaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.

Up the Saints.
I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ventnorsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?[/p][/quote]Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions. How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think? At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?[/p][/quote]So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing. JohnItaly
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4:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

2-0 Bury, ... oh dear
2-0 Bury, ... oh dear GX Saint
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4:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Bury 2 Portsworth 0
Bury 2 Portsworth 0 Little Hitler
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4:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

Dyer's on. Come on Luke, introduce yourself
Dyer's on. Come on Luke, introduce yourself GX Saint
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4:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
S$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS S$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$!!! Little Hitler
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4:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

Yessssssss.
Yessssssss. Rising_Son
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4:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

Morgan !!!!
Morgan !!!! GX Saint
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4:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SaintRachel says...

Love the spiderman!
Love the spiderman! SaintRachel
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4:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12

MGRA says...

4-2-3-1 ......or as its now called four-TWO-three-one , get in spiderman !
4-2-3-1 ......or as its now called four-TWO-three-one , get in spiderman ! MGRA
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4:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Not again FFS!
Not again FFS! Little Hitler
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4:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

Shambles
Shambles GX Saint
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4:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12

circa 66 saint says...

bury v pompey live commentary

Comment From Kent
Radio Bury (or whoever) were saying about 50 Pompey fans walked out at half time - is it really that dire



did that many go?

and of course it's dire it's pompey
bury v pompey live commentary Comment From Kent Radio Bury (or whoever) were saying about 50 Pompey fans walked out at half time - is it really that dire did that many go? and of course it's dire it's pompey circa 66 saint
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4:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Skating on thin ice says...

Ha ha ha Nathan Dyer picked your pocket there OK
Ha ha ha Nathan Dyer picked your pocket there OK Skating on thin ice
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4:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Ha ha ha Nathan Dyer picked your pocket there OK
At least we're not being 'Buried' Skunt!
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Ha ha ha Nathan Dyer picked your pocket there OK[/p][/quote]At least we're not being 'Buried' Skunt! Little Hitler
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4:35pm Sat 10 Nov 12

MGRA says...

the goal keeper that was pretty much our ever-present during back-to-back promotions sits on the bench... meanwhile one of the three new goal keepers that is clearly not as good as him has just binned our lead...
the goal keeper that was pretty much our ever-present during back-to-back promotions sits on the bench... meanwhile one of the three new goal keepers that is clearly not as good as him has just binned our lead... MGRA
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4:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

A clean sheet was as important as winning if you ask me. Let's hope we can still get the 3 points.
A clean sheet was as important as winning if you ask me. Let's hope we can still get the 3 points. Little Hitler
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4:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Saintsnumbers says...

c'mon saints, you can still do this. on the balance of play, you're by far the better team...
c'mon saints, you can still do this. on the balance of play, you're by far the better team... Saintsnumbers
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4:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Totally gutted TBH, thought this was the day. Morale must be so low after that!

Thank God for the Skates, always there to cheer us up when times are bad.
Totally gutted TBH, thought this was the day. Morale must be so low after that! Thank God for the Skates, always there to cheer us up when times are bad. Little Hitler
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4:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

draw better than a loss, a lot of positives i think
draw better than a loss, a lot of positives i think saintsupnorth
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4:56pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Gazza has given away 2 points... Why didn't he just hoof it... Just why?!
We should've won with that performance, simple as that, Gazza has not really done anything for us... Can anyone remember him saving a shot?
We should've had a penalty and we never deserved to lose or draw.
Punch was my man of the match.
Gazza has given away 2 points... Why didn't he just hoof it... Just why?! We should've won with that performance, simple as that, Gazza has not really done anything for us... Can anyone remember him saving a shot? We should've had a penalty and we never deserved to lose or draw. Punch was my man of the match. Norwegian Saint
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4:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
ventnorsaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.

Up the Saints.
I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing.
So, you were naive to believe the bankers knew what they were doing. Why do think you might not be equally naive in this case too?
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ventnorsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.[/p][/quote]And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?[/p][/quote]Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions. How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think? At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?[/p][/quote]So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing.[/p][/quote]So, you were naive to believe the bankers knew what they were doing. Why do think you might not be equally naive in this case too? Rising_Son
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5:02pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintand266 says...

Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us
Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us saintand266
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5:02pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintand266 says...

Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us
Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us saintand266
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5:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

olddellsaint says...

Dear Mr Chairman,

Please get your wallet out for the January sales, a whole new defence wouldn't go a miss.

Many Thanks, Mary Xmas

unhappy Saints fan
Dear Mr Chairman, Please get your wallet out for the January sales, a whole new defence wouldn't go a miss. Many Thanks, Mary Xmas unhappy Saints fan olddellsaint
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5:06pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintand266 says...

And I see the blue few are more concerned about our result than their own . Shame about all those great bestest poopey fans leaving at half time too .
And I see the blue few are more concerned about our result than their own . Shame about all those great bestest poopey fans leaving at half time too . saintand266
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5:06pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

How many goals have we given away by defensive errors?
Next week...
SURVIVAL OF THE MANAGERS!
How many goals have we given away by defensive errors? Next week... SURVIVAL OF THE MANAGERS! Norwegian Saint
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5:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

up saints says...

2 points gifted away but better ballanced performance
2 points gifted away but better ballanced performance up saints
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5:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

Should've won that. Stupid mistakes!
Should've won that. Stupid mistakes! Rising_Son
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5:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.
We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction. saintsupnorth
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5:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

wagster says...

please buy shay given!!!!!
please buy shay given!!!!! wagster
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5:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

saintand266 wrote:
And I see the blue few are more concerned about our result than their own . Shame about all those great bestest poopey fans leaving at half time too .
They've no reason to be concerned about their results. Their future is Chanrai or liquidation.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: And I see the blue few are more concerned about our result than their own . Shame about all those great bestest poopey fans leaving at half time too .[/p][/quote]They've no reason to be concerned about their results. Their future is Chanrai or liquidation. Rising_Son
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5:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.
A good point, we're now above QPR who we face next weekend. Hopefully we can use that to our advantage and look towards a win.
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.[/p][/quote]A good point, we're now above QPR who we face next weekend. Hopefully we can use that to our advantage and look towards a win. Little Hitler
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5:14pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Demarkation says...

I don't think they're are any positives to take unfortunately. Once again we have proven that if the opponents don't create a chance, we will create one for them. What's the point in completely dominating a game if you're gonna **** around with the ball at the back and gift them a goal? Take nothing away from the finish from Dyer, excellent shot and 80% of the time he will pull it wide.

In my opinion, once we got the goal, we were complacent at the back - we thought all of a sudden we had good defenders. I fear this game has cost Adkins his job - well done Gazza
I don't think they're are any positives to take unfortunately. Once again we have proven that if the opponents don't create a chance, we will create one for them. What's the point in completely dominating a game if you're gonna **** around with the ball at the back and gift them a goal? Take nothing away from the finish from Dyer, excellent shot and 80% of the time he will pull it wide. In my opinion, once we got the goal, we were complacent at the back - we thought all of a sudden we had good defenders. I fear this game has cost Adkins his job - well done Gazza Demarkation
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5:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Demarkation says...

I'd love to see the stats but we must be the team with most pass backs to our keeper, most of them are completely unneccesary and just put us under pressure.
Has anyone else noticed the constant backpassing?
I'd love to see the stats but we must be the team with most pass backs to our keeper, most of them are completely unneccesary and just put us under pressure. Has anyone else noticed the constant backpassing? Demarkation
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5:18pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.
There was only one direction we could go! ;-)
The biggest game of the season next week, lose and we are doomed... unless we have a bit of luck! And the way our luck is just not happening for us... Deflected goals, in off a post, own goals... It surely has to change.
If we were on deal or no deal we would have the penny!
Saints forever!
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.[/p][/quote]There was only one direction we could go! ;-) The biggest game of the season next week, lose and we are doomed... unless we have a bit of luck! And the way our luck is just not happening for us... Deflected goals, in off a post, own goals... It surely has to change. If we were on deal or no deal we would have the penny! Saints forever! Norwegian Saint
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5:19pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Storm Shadow says...

Swansea end a run of three successive away defeats.

35 points from 27 games required, need to win at home to stand any chance of staying up.
Swansea end a run of three successive away defeats. 35 points from 27 games required, need to win at home to stand any chance of staying up. Storm Shadow
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5:19pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

saintand266 wrote:
Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us
Sad to say but there is only one positive I am now prepared to accept - that is a victory AND a clean sheet.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us[/p][/quote]Sad to say but there is only one positive I am now prepared to accept - that is a victory AND a clean sheet. JohnItaly
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5:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

Think we should change the saints anthem to ' The only way is up '!!. Makes a change to comment after a match, and have positives to say rather than reading endless negatives.
Think we should change the saints anthem to ' The only way is up '!!. Makes a change to comment after a match, and have positives to say rather than reading endless negatives. saintsupnorth
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5:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Scarborosaint says...

Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back Scarborosaint
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5:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really. Rising_Son
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5:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

I expect NC will be blaming the DE for publishing an article about ex Saints scoring against us. I know I am.
I expect NC will be blaming the DE for publishing an article about ex Saints scoring against us. I know I am. JohnItaly
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5:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

billythesaint says...

Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this. Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2. Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing. Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose. Arsenal batter us 6-1. Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap. Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1. Fulham are awful but we only draw. West Ham batter us 4-1. Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us. West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose. Swansea equalize and we do....nothing. "Call yourself a fan?" Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto. Off to get sh!tfaced in town. billythesaint
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5:38pm Sat 10 Nov 12

joelster says...

billythesaint wrote:
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
oh go fly a kite!
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this. Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2. Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing. Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose. Arsenal batter us 6-1. Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap. Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1. Fulham are awful but we only draw. West Ham batter us 4-1. Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us. West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose. Swansea equalize and we do....nothing. "Call yourself a fan?" Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto. Off to get sh!tfaced in town.[/p][/quote]oh go fly a kite! joelster
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5:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Scarborosaint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr Scarborosaint
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5:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr[/p][/quote]We should have won today. I think that's a positive. Rising_Son
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5:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Luuuuuke was close to being my man of the match but that had to go to Punchy.
Lallana was also class but Gazza... oh Gazza just why oh why didn't you hoof it? WHY?
Still... history now... Our season starts next week!
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Luuuuuke was close to being my man of the match but that had to go to Punchy. Lallana was also class but Gazza... oh Gazza just why oh why didn't you hoof it? WHY? Still... history now... Our season starts next week! Norwegian Saint
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5:50pm Sat 10 Nov 12

JohnItaly says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
But the whole point is we didn't.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr[/p][/quote]We should have won today. I think that's a positive.[/p][/quote]But the whole point is we didn't. JohnItaly
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6:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it. Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas. OSPREYSAINT
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6:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Rising_Son says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
But the whole point is we didn't.
So, you think the whole point is that we didn't win. It's important I agree but I don't think it's the whole point. I think it is also very important that we played better than in the last couple of matches and deserved to win.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr[/p][/quote]We should have won today. I think that's a positive.[/p][/quote]But the whole point is we didn't.[/p][/quote]So, you think the whole point is that we didn't win. It's important I agree but I don't think it's the whole point. I think it is also very important that we played better than in the last couple of matches and deserved to win. Rising_Son
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6:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Didn't lose though, progress.
Didn't lose though, progress. OSPREYSAINT
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6:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

billythesaint wrote:
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this. Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2. Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing. Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose. Arsenal batter us 6-1. Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap. Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1. Fulham are awful but we only draw. West Ham batter us 4-1. Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us. West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose. Swansea equalize and we do....nothing. "Call yourself a fan?" Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto. Off to get sh!tfaced in town.[/p][/quote]Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us. ramptonfromsouthampton
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6:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12

hates the skates says...

every point counts. were in this together
every point counts. were in this together hates the skates
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6:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Scarborosaint says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
He has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this. Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2. Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing. Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose. Arsenal batter us 6-1. Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap. Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1. Fulham are awful but we only draw. West Ham batter us 4-1. Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us. West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose. Swansea equalize and we do....nothing. "Call yourself a fan?" Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto. Off to get sh!tfaced in town.[/p][/quote]Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.[/p][/quote]He has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes Scarborosaint
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7:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

warrens 76 says...

Lallana has had two stone cold penalties ignored in two games running, why?

It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve
r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us....

I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game.
Lallana has had two stone cold penalties ignored in two games running, why? It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us.... I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game. warrens 76
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7:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12

willygetaway says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Lallana has had two stone cold penalties ignored in two games running, why?

It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve

r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us....

I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game.
you would have been happier at todays match bro
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Lallana has had two stone cold penalties ignored in two games running, why? It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us.... I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game.[/p][/quote]you would have been happier at todays match bro willygetaway
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7:46pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Look on the bright side we gained a point on Sunderland and Villa today
Look on the bright side we gained a point on Sunderland and Villa today OSPREYSAINT
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7:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintlysoul says...

Red n White wrote:
I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!!
Rubbish quote!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!![/p][/quote]Rubbish quote!!!!! saintlysoul
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8:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintlysoul says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
He has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes
This is very insightful and totally unarguable very informative - thank you to someone who clearly knows what he's talking about!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this. Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2. Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing. Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose. Arsenal batter us 6-1. Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap. Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1. Fulham are awful but we only draw. West Ham batter us 4-1. Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us. West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose. Swansea equalize and we do....nothing. "Call yourself a fan?" Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto. Off to get sh!tfaced in town.[/p][/quote]Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.[/p][/quote]He has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes[/p][/quote]This is very insightful and totally unarguable very informative - thank you to someone who clearly knows what he's talking about!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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8:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
Idiot!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it. Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.[/p][/quote]Idiot! saintlysoul
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8:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
Idiot!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it. Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.[/p][/quote]Idiot! saintlysoul
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9:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
Idiot!
I resemble that remark.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back[/p][/quote]Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.[/p][/quote]Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it. Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.[/p][/quote]Idiot![/p][/quote]I resemble that remark. OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Red n White wrote:
I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!!
Rubbish quote!!!!!
Are you kent141 in disguise? Or one of our other WUM/trolls?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!![/p][/quote]Rubbish quote!!!!![/p][/quote]Are you kent141 in disguise? Or one of our other WUM/trolls? OSPREYSAINT
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9:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
the goal keeper that was pretty much our ever-present during back-to-back promotions sits on the bench... meanwhile one of the three new goal keepers that is clearly not as good as him has just binned our lead...
Says the man who wants to get rid of the bus I use to get to St Marys, but that's on another thread!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the goal keeper that was pretty much our ever-present during back-to-back promotions sits on the bench... meanwhile one of the three new goal keepers that is clearly not as good as him has just binned our lead...[/p][/quote]Says the man who wants to get rid of the bus I use to get to St Marys, but that's on another thread! OSPREYSAINT
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4:52am Sun 11 Nov 12

st1halo says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
draw better than a loss, a lot of positives i think
True!
One main positive for me today !!

No danger of Guly being brought on!!

STID
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: draw better than a loss, a lot of positives i think[/p][/quote]True! One main positive for me today !! No danger of Guly being brought on!! STID st1halo
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