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Saints 1 Swansea 1
1:00pm Saturday 10th November 2012 in Saints News
By Gordon Simpson, Senior Sports Reporter
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- Nathan Dyer rescues a point against his old club
- Morgan Schneiderlin had headed Saints in front
- Saints move up to 19th in the table
- Luke Shaw became youngest ever Saint to start a Premier League game
- Jack Cork returned to starting lineup after injury
5:04pm
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4:58pm
QPR's 1-0 defeat at Stoke means that Saints move up to 19th in the Premier League table. Reading's draw at Norwich keeps the Royals a point ahead of Nigel Adkins' men. That's it from us today - thanks for joining us. We'll have reaction from the manager on the website shortly. A full report, as well as quotes from the Saints camp, will be available in this evening's Sports Pink...
4:57pm
FULL-TIME: Saints 1 Swansea 1
4:47pm
PENALTY APPEAL: Adam Lallana again goes down in the area, claiming he was tripped by Garry Monk in the 85th minute, but Andre Marriner again ignores his appeals.
4:34pm
GOAL Saints 1 Swansea 1 (Dyer 73): Saints shoot themselves in the foot with a terrible piece of defending. Paulo Gazzaniga chips a poor pass out to Maya Yoshida, who struggled to control the ball and was dispossessed by ex-Saint Nathan Dyer. The winger raced forward, before looking up and firing a skidding shot across goal and in off the far post.
4:24pm
GOAL: Saints 1 Swansea 0 (Schneiderlin 64): A delivery from the left is nodded back across goal by Rickie Lambert. Morgan Schneiderlin chests the ball forward and then nods it home from close range.
4:20pm
CHANCE: The ball falls to Rickie Lambert in space in the area, but as he winds up for a thumping left-foot shot in the 59th minute, Ki Sung-Yeung slid in to produce a brilliant saving tackle.
4:18pm
CHANCE: Wayne Routledge fires Pablo Hernandez's cutback just over the bar from 18 yards in the 56th minute, as Swansea break down the right. Routledge is then withdrawn for ex-Saints winger Nathan Dyer.
4:13pm
CHANCE: Saints press Swansea back in the early stages, but Schneiderlin loses out to Michu in midfield, with the visitors breaking forward and Angel Rangel hitting a deflected shot behind from 25 yards in the 52nd minute.
3:50pm
HALF-TIME: Saints 0 Swansea 0
3:43pm
PENALTY APPEAL: Adam Lallana goes to ground under pressure from Angel Rangel in the 39th minute, but referee Andre Marriner waves play on. Looked like the correct decision.
3:40pm
CHANCE: Gaston Ramirez is fouled 30 yards out, leading to a booking for Ashley Williams in the 36th minute. From the resulting free-kick, the Uruguayan produces a disguised chip to the back post, finding Jose Fonte unmarked. His ball across the face is blocked by Ben Davies, before Fonte pounces on the rebound, only to be denied again at close range by the defender.
3:30pm
CHANCE: Gaston Ramirez works room just outside the area in the 26th minute and, as a couple of Swansea players dive in front of him, he unleashes a stinging left foot shot that flashes just wide of the post.
3:23pm
CHANCE: Swansea with their first real effort of the contest, as the ball is worked to Ki Sung-Yeung just inside the corner of the penalty box. He hits a powerful left foot shot that Paulo Gazzaniga has to turn round his near post in the 20th minute.
3:19pm
CHANCE: Adam Lallana 's volley on the turn in the 15th minute forces a good save from Gerhard Tremmel in the Swansea goal. Gaston Ramirez then hits a low shot just wide of the post a minute later.
3:13pm
CHANCE: Little in the way of goalmouth action in the opening stages, as Swansea retain a huge amount of possession, but Saints do start chipping away and create an opportunity in the tenth minute, as Jason Puncheon lays the ball off the Morgan Schneiderlin on the edge of the area. The Frenchman's right foot shot goes high and wide, however.
2:56pm
The players are out on the pitch. Kick-off now just minutes away. Stay with us for updates throughout the match.
2:31pm
He [Luke Shaw] might have figured a little bit earlier but what we've got is a young player with huge potential. What we've got to do is nurture him correctly because he is still a young boy who is growing up. What we have to do is extract as much potential out of him and he has got to do that himself. I believe he has got a good environment where he can do that.
Nigel Adkins on Luke Shaw
2:17pm
Saints make three changes from the team that lost 2-0 at West Brom last Monday. Danny Fox is dropped for Luke Shaw, with the 17-year-old becoming the youngest ever player to start a Premier League game for the club. Jack Cork returns from injury to make his first league start of the season, with Steven Davis dropping to the bench. Jason Puncheon comes in for Jay Rodriguez. Swansea are unchanged from the side that drew 1-1 with Chelsea last weekend.
2:14pm
THE LINE-UPS
Saints: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Cork, Schneiderlin, Puncheon, Ramirez, Lallana, Lambert.
Subs: K Davis, Hooiveld, Fox, S Davis, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Rodriguez.
Swansea: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams, Monk, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Ki, Hernandez, Routledge, Michu.
Subs: Cornell, Tate, Tiendalli, Agustien, Dyer, Moore, Shechter.
Referee: Andre Marriner
1:51pm
FORM GUIDE
Saints (last six league matches): W L D L L L
Swansea (last six league matches): L L D W L D
Saints top scorer (league only): Rickie Lambert 4
Swansea top scorer (league only): Michu 6
1:37pm
1:35pm
If you win two games, suddenly things can change for you in this league, and that can happen for Southampton. I don’t want to see any manager lose his job and of course I have sympathy for Nigel Adkins because he is a colleague. We know that when things are going well it’s because of the players and manager, but when they are not so good it’s just the manager. I wish him the best, but only after this weekend. They (the players) will really want to win for him. If he goes and another manager comes in, you never know what happens to you as a player. And they are all aware that if they end up back in the Championship, their whole life changes. We are going to be playing a team who could not be more motivated, and we have to match that. If we play with same focus and concentration as them, I am sure we have the quality to get something there, whether it is one point or three.
Swansea manager Michael Laudrup
1:34pm
Swansea manager Michael Laudrup has also weighed in on the subject, and has reassured Adkins that brighter times could well lie ahead soon. His comments coming up in a moment...
1:29pm
The relationship between me and the chairman is very good, which is an important one at any football club. I would imagine there would be loads of speculation about different things, but it is strong and it is good. We talk regularly as we have always done and we’re determined to make this a success. There is no need to speak about my position. It is a football club determined to be successful. We obviously spoke in the summer about our strategies and we’re working very hard. We’ve now had 10 games of the season and obviously only picked four points up. We sit at the bottom. That’s fact, that’s reality. As we always do at the football club, we assess situations. We have to accept where we are but then we look forward and move on. We’re obviously looking at the next run of games. We take one game at a time in respect to the next one which is at the weekend against Swansea. We are focused on winning that. Let’s not hide away from the fact that in football at some stage there is always a parting of the ways between a manager and a football club. I am determined to be a success here at Southampton Football Club, the chairman is determined to be a success here at Southampton Football Club so we both share the same ambition. What we do is we get on. There doesn’t need to be any talk about it. We will be a success here.
Saints manager Nigel Adkins
1:27pm
In what has now become something of a weekly tradition, Saints manager Nigel Adkins was on Thursday quizzed about his future at the club and his relationship with chairman Nicola Cortese. A full story is available to read, but the manager’s comments will follow in a moment here...
1:16pm
SWANSEA SQUAD NEWS: Manager Michael Laudrup has no new injury troubles. Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as “very doubtful” as he continues to recover from a dead leg. That means that former Saints player Garry Monk, who was at the club from 1996 until 2004, is set to continue at centre half. Another of the club’s old players, winger Nathan Dyer, will be among the Swansea squad.
1:08pm
SAINTS SQUAD NEWS: Goalkeeper Artur Boruc is available for selection. The 32-year-old had been under investigation by the club for allegedly throwing a water bottle at home supporters in the 2-1 defeat against Spurs two weeks ago. Boruc had been left out of contention since that match, but the club have announced he is available again. Midfielder Jack Cork is also fit after a knee injury and could make his first league appearance of the season.
1:02pm
Good afternoon and welcome to the Daily Echo’s blog covering today’s Premier League contest between Saints and Swansea. Nigel Adkins remains at the helm, having emerged from talks with chairman Nicola Cortese on Tuesday with his job intact. Patience is running thin at St Mary’s, however, and the manager is in need of a positive result today if he wants to be sure of being given further time in charge. Saints, who are bottom of the table with four points from ten games, can at least take heart from returning to home soil. It is at St Mary’s where the club have garnered all of their points so far this season, and while a win this afternoon cannot take them out of the relegation zone, it could move them up to 18th. Their opponents, Swansea, are enjoying the comfortable surroundings of mid-table, with their 12 points so far this campaign having put them into 11th place. But Michael Laudrup’s team haven’t picked up a point away from home since the opening day of the season, when they dismantled QPR 5-0 at Loftus Road. They did, however, win 3-1 at Liverpool in the Capital One Cup in their last match away from the Liberty Stadium, while they suffered a narrow 1-0 defeat at Manchester City days before that game and drew 1-1 at home with Chelsea last weekend. Stay with us for the build-up, team news and match updates.
Comments(116)
magnette
says...
1:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb
please Nigel
They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
Norwegian Saint
says...
1:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Please please please get 3 points, not just for Saints but for Nigel too.
I hope he stays but a poor result today just has to be the final nail in the bus tyre
up saints
says...
1:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12
magnette wrote:as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy
Gazza
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb
please Nigel
They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
Velleity
says...
1:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12
It'll be good to see him back.
Velleity
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1:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12
MGRA wrote:"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg."
4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....
He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA?
MGRA
says...
1:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Velleity wrote:Velleity articulate debate rated as very doubtful as he continues to cope with a dead brain.
MGRA wrote:"Defender Chico Flores is, however, rated as 'very doubtful' as he continues to recover from a dead leg."
4-2-3-1 please Nigel, and 3 points in the bag....
He'll be out till January, eh, MRSA?
magnette
says...
1:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12
up saints wrote:3 I reckon! :D
magnette wrote:as long as they score 2 with that lot i be happy
Gazza
clyne fonte(c) hooi yosh fox
ram davis punch
Mayuka lamb
please Nigel
They might only let in 1 goal with that lot!?!
ventnorsaint
says...
1:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.
I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?
UP THE SAINTS!
7saint7
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1:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12
JohnItaly
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1:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son
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1:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12
ventnorsaint wrote:I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too.
Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea.
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.
I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?
UP THE SAINTS!
up saints
says...
1:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:bloddy redknapp not forgotton the last trip we had with him yet .ask me again in 20 years
ventnorsaint wrote:I'm not surprised NC never acts on your suggestions. Steve Coppell would probably reject them too.
Probably Nigel's last game in charge of Saints if they lose today against Swansea.
NC never acted on my suggestions about trying to talk Steve Coppell in to joining Saints as co manager alongside NA, as far as I know anyway. A'h well.
I wonder if Mr Redknapp will be hovering at St Marys today?
UP THE SAINTS!
Rising_Son
says...
2:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
vag
says...
2:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
up saints
says...
2:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
JohnItaly
says...
2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:Fall out with Le Tissier and poor relations with Lawrie McMenemy and the DE. The cancellation of the annual fans' forum. That alone shows little or no thought for the supporters. I also have evidence, albeit it hearsay, that staff members refer to NC as "that b......d".
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
up saints
says...
2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
SaintMark
says...
2:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintsupnorth
says...
2:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12
MGRA
says...
2:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Red n White
says...
2:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12
TEBOURBA
says...
2:28pm Sat 10 Nov 12
and when the last nail is being hammered in, the Happy Clappers would still believe he's backing Nigel.
Of course, to them, the Daily Mail, the Echo, the Sun, MLT, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, are conspirators
There's none so blind as those who will not see.
All the time he was winning, Nigel was OK, with Cortese, it's when the chips are down, good managers like Nigel, need support and help from their chairman, not showdown meetings and ultimatums.
People's characters are best judged by how they deal with adversity not success.
Cortese's actions over the past couple of months, hanging out Nigel to dry without a public word of support says it all about him
The Happy Clappers should remember it was Markus and his money that saved Saints not Cortese.
Norwegian Saint
says...
2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12
He has been awful.
Lets hope this squad pull together and sink the Swans!
ventnorsaint
says...
2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.
Up the Saints.
Skating on thin ice
says...
2:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12
St.Yorkie
says...
2:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12
up saints
says...
2:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12
1965onwards
says...
2:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12
with this very limited bunch of players,no-one should be in any doubt why we are bottom of the league.Too many people buy into this yankee creed that a positive attitude enables people to defy the laws of physics.Well it don't.
If this truly was NA's thought process in the summer then he should have been sacked then.If he is still maintaining anywhere near this delusional claptrap,he should be sacked now.
SaintMark
says...
2:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Skating on thin ice wrote:D**K
Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.
GX Saint
says...
2:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12
SaintJD
says...
2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint
says...
2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint wrote:Better ring to it than Steeeeeeeeeeeeve
Luuuuuuuuuuuuke
Folkestone Saint
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2:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Skating on thin ice wrote:And what would you lot know about PAYING half let alone 1% of a bill.
Dyno-Rod dopped to the bench, it's clear to all that he is not Premier League standard and he will be on his way in January. £7 million wasted, no club will pay even half of that for him now.
WTFILN
Saintsnumbers
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2:56pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Great team lineup. COYR!
angelsaint
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3:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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3:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
PTID1898
says...
3:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
GX Saint
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3:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12
PTID1898 wrote:Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
SaintMark
says...
3:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12
PTID1898 wrote:Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!!
Afternoon all.....
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
PTID1898
says...
3:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint wrote:Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!
PTID1898 wrote:Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
GX Saint
says...
3:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12
PTID1898 wrote:Oh, well no wonder you're a bit subdued this afternoon. 1-0 flatters you - respectable scoreline at that level if you can hang on.
GX Saint wrote:Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!PTID1898 wrote: Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Little Hitler
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3:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Bloody cat pee'd all over it this morning but it's in the wash as we speak :-)
Red n White
says...
3:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12
angelsaint wrote:try first row sports. the links weren't working too well for me, and one showed qpr game instead, but the other links might have been down to my poor internet connection.
Has any one found any live feeds for today's game?
Little Hitler
says...
3:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Bury 1 Portsheath 0
St.Yorkie
says...
3:53pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Gaston to score winner in 87th minute!
saintshorse101
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3:57pm Sat 10 Nov 12
St.Yorkie wrote:i would take that! sounds like shaw`s having a solid game as well
Fairly even first half - not heard much of Cork - but I guess that's because he is doing his job? Gaston to score winner in 87th minute!
DisplacedFan
says...
3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12
SaintMark wrote:And no shots on goal,
PTID1898 wrote:Bury 1-0 Skunts Haha!!
Afternoon all.....
Come on the swans!!!!!!!
White and red till dead
says...
3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son
says...
3:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12
ventnorsaint wrote:I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
Rising_Son wrote:Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.
Up the Saints.
Norwegian Saint
says...
4:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintsupnorth
says...
4:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12
PTID1898 wrote:Everton is a good team!!
GX Saint wrote:Yes I'm following the mighty blue army at the same time as laughing at you!!
PTID1898 wrote:Not surprised you're on here and not following progress at Bury
Afternoon all..... Come on the swans!!!!!!!
JohnItaly
says...
4:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing.
ventnorsaint wrote:I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
Rising_Son wrote:Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.
Up the Saints.
GX Saint
says...
4:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
says...
4:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint
says...
4:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
says...
4:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
S$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
Rising_Son
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4:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint
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4:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12
SaintRachel
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4:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12
MGRA
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4:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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4:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12
GX Saint
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4:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12
circa 66 saint
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4:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Comment From Kent
Radio Bury (or whoever) were saying about 50 Pompey fans walked out at half time - is it really that dire
did that many go?
and of course it's dire it's pompey
Skating on thin ice
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4:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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4:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Skating on thin ice wrote:At least we're not being 'Buried' Skunt!
Ha ha ha Nathan Dyer picked your pocket there OK
MGRA
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4:35pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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4:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Saintsnumbers
says...
4:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Little Hitler
says...
4:54pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Thank God for the Skates, always there to cheer us up when times are bad.
saintsupnorth
says...
4:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
says...
4:56pm Sat 10 Nov 12
We should've won with that performance, simple as that, Gazza has not really done anything for us... Can anyone remember him saving a shot?
We should've had a penalty and we never deserved to lose or draw.
Punch was my man of the match.
Rising_Son
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4:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12
JohnItaly wrote:So, you were naive to believe the bankers knew what they were doing. Why do think you might not be equally naive in this case too?
Rising_Son wrote:So your solution is based on the assumption "those" who know better (assuming they actually do know better)should be allowed to "get on with it". I was naive enough to believe that the bankers knew what they were doing.
ventnorsaint wrote:I don't know and neither do you. Your opinion is neither positive nor negative. It is simply one of many opinions about what is best for Saints. My solution is to let those who know better than you and me decide. Do you have a better solution than that?
Rising_Son wrote:Rising_Son seems to have all the opinions and no solutions.
JohnItaly wrote:And the evidence for your opinion about NC is the Daily Mail?
Very surprised to see no comment re the article about Nicola Cortose in the Daily Mail. Whilst accepting the DM must be read with a huge hand-full of salt what I find worrying is put that article alongside other matters that have been aired and it does strike me that NC is little more than a despot who we all know tend to rule by fear. If NA does depart (sacked or resign) then it going to take a very strong character to stand upto NC and impose his will on the team. This will lead to further confrontations potentially effecting team performance. The next two games will I believe determine NA's future and our season. Here's hoping for 6 points.
How does he / she, know what Steve Coppell or Nigel Adkin might or might not do or think?
At least my suggestion was positive, practical and will save the sacking of a good man who perhaps just needs time, experienced help and support, until after the January window, when he can then strengthen at the back.
Up the Saints.
saintand266
says...
5:02pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintand266
says...
5:02pm Sat 10 Nov 12
olddellsaint
says...
5:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Please get your wallet out for the January sales, a whole new defence wouldn't go a miss.
Many Thanks, Mary Xmas
unhappy Saints fan
saintand266
says...
5:06pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
says...
5:06pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Next week...
SURVIVAL OF THE MANAGERS!
up saints
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5:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son
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5:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintsupnorth
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5:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
wagster
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5:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son
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5:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintand266 wrote:They've no reason to be concerned about their results. Their future is Chanrai or liquidation.
And I see the blue few are more concerned about our result than their own . Shame about all those great bestest poopey fans leaving at half time too .
Little Hitler
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5:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintsupnorth wrote:A good point, we're now above QPR who we face next weekend. Hopefully we can use that to our advantage and look towards a win.
We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.
Demarkation
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5:14pm Sat 10 Nov 12
In my opinion, once we got the goal, we were complacent at the back - we thought all of a sudden we had good defenders. I fear this game has cost Adkins his job - well done Gazza
Demarkation
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5:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Has anyone else noticed the constant backpassing?
Norwegian Saint
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5:18pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintsupnorth wrote:There was only one direction we could go! ;-)
We all wanted to start climbing the table from today, and i think that was the focus. And that's what we are doing, no longer sat at the bottom. I am pleased with todays performance, but again mistakes cost us. But at least we are now moving in the right direction.
The biggest game of the season next week, lose and we are doomed... unless we have a bit of luck! And the way our luck is just not happening for us... Deflected goals, in off a post, own goals... It surely has to change.
If we were on deal or no deal we would have the penny!
Saints forever!
Storm Shadow
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5:19pm Sat 10 Nov 12
35 points from 27 games required, need to win at home to stand any chance of staying up.
JohnItaly
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5:19pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintand266 wrote:Sad to say but there is only one positive I am now prepared to accept - that is a victory AND a clean sheet.
Just walking back to my car wondering how we didn't win . Still I suppose a point is better than nothing , a lot of positives today just a shame another error cost us
saintsupnorth
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5:22pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint
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5:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son
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5:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
JohnItaly
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5:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12
billythesaint
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5:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
joelster
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5:38pm Sat 10 Nov 12
billythesaint wrote:oh go fly a kite!
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
Scarborosaint
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5:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Rising_Son
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5:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint wrote:We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
Rising_Son wrote:Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Norwegian Saint
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5:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint wrote:Luuuuuke was close to being my man of the match but that had to go to Punchy.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Lallana was also class but Gazza... oh Gazza just why oh why didn't you hoof it? WHY?
Still... history now... Our season starts next week!
JohnItaly
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5:50pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:But the whole point is we didn't.
Scarborosaint wrote:We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
Rising_Son wrote:Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
OSPREYSAINT
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6:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Rising_Son wrote:Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
Rising_Son
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6:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12
JohnItaly wrote:So, you think the whole point is that we didn't win. It's important I agree but I don't think it's the whole point. I think it is also very important that we played better than in the last couple of matches and deserved to win.
Rising_Son wrote:But the whole point is we didn't.
Scarborosaint wrote:We should have won today. I think that's a positive.
Rising_Son wrote:Thanks mate you can try and overplay some times , lots of positives by the sound of things , I am sure the NA out brigade will be out in in force but nothing will be achieved by panicking or making knee jerk reactions , like what he has had to say this week tried to stay positive and we need a confidence boosting win from somewhere a deflection , mis kick , keep the faith those fans of little faith , things have been worse than this in the past coyr
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
OSPREYSAINT
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6:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12
ramptonfromsouthampton
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6:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
billythesaint wrote:Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
hates the skates
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6:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint
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6:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12
ramptonfromsouthamptHe has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes
on wrote:
billythesaint wrote:Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
warrens 76
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7:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve
r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us....
I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game.
willygetaway
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7:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12
warrens 76 wrote:you would have been happier at todays match bro
Lallana has had two stone cold penalties ignored in two games running, why?
It is true that for the bigger clubs decisions even out over the season amongst themselves....howeve
r the proffessional cunning for us is lacking, indeed an element of integrity and not complaining and cheating unfortunately is costing us....
I believe that when every sport can have video replays except football it is because it will prevent matches being influenced, SAF, Platini, Sepp Blatter and others like the ability to have this "influence" in the game.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:46pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintlysoul
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7:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Red n White wrote:Rubbish quote!!!!!
I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!!
saintlysoul
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8:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12
Scarborosaint wrote:This is very insightful and totally unarguable very informative - thank you to someone who clearly knows what he's talking about!!!!!!!
ramptonfromsouthamptHe has never played professional football , otherwise he would that the manager picks the team once they cross the line he can't legislate for mistakes , a couple of the substitutiond have been strange granted but every body makes the wrong call or mistake it's human nature, I never played in the premiership but made a living in the lower divisions but everything you do wrong is under the microscope nowadays and the higher up you play , the better players take advantages of any weaknesses or mistakes
on wrote:
billythesaint wrote:Enjoy getting shitfaced 'ex-pro player', try not to do anything disgraceful eh? Wouldn't want to shatter that illusion that having been in the game, you know better than the rest of us.
Adkins got us promoted from the 3rd and 2nd division with a team that had millions invested in it. Millions. Premier League? Totally inept, out of his depth and exposed as pretty much clueless. He got Scunthorpe promoted twice. Twice? Yes because he got them relegated once. Still want Adkins as manager? You are a disgrace if you do. Whenever the opposition change things or score he does...nothing. Sick to death of this.
Man City batter us but we somehow only lose 3-2.
Wigan, yes, Wigan roll us over at home 2-0 and he does nothing.
Man Utd bring on world class Scholes when we are 2-1 up. He does nothing, we lose.
Arsenal batter us 6-1.
Aston Villa got 1-0 up, lose their best player and we roll them over. Clap clap.
Everton start to demolish us in the space of 10 minutes, he does nothing, we lose 3-1.
Fulham are awful but we only draw.
West Ham batter us 4-1.
Spurs batter us first half and then totally take their foot off the gas second half and still beat us.
West Brom go 2-0 up after 56 minutes, 20 minutes later he makes a sub, we lose.
Swansea equalize and we do....nothing.
"Call yourself a fan?"
Yeah, I do, and an ex pro footballer, which is why I want him out pronto.
Off to get sh!tfaced in town.
saintlysoul
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8:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Idiot!
Rising_Son wrote:Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
saintlysoul
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8:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Idiot!
Rising_Son wrote:Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintlysoul wrote:I resemble that remark.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Idiot!
Rising_Son wrote:Lots of teams make lots of mistakes and get away with it, we make one and get punished, that's what happens when you down on your luck, I cannot recall a single break in our favour and for me the juries out on the penalty shouts, not given so nowt we can do about it.
Scarborosaint wrote:Much better shape today. Not one penalty but two and possibly three. Shaw did well and looks promising. Cork made a difference. Poor clearance from Gazzaniga, poor control by Yoshida and two points lost. Silly, really.
Couldn't make it today but much better balanced shape by the sound of it, Paul Merson seemed to think we should of had a penalty ? Sloppy goal against it would seem , individual mistakes are killing us , how did young shaw do and could he be the answer to the left back problem ? Great to see corky back
Progress, this XI if kept together for a few matches could be the answer as long as the don't give possession away in the wrong areas.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12
saintlysoul wrote:Are you kent141 in disguise? Or one of our other WUM/trolls?
Red n White wrote:Rubbish quote!!!!!
I think this is one of the strongest sides we've put out all season. Cork should strengthen the defence by giving more cover, the front 4 are all deadly. A strong bench with the ability to mix it up if things aren't working. Can see Mayuka coming on and tearing up Monk. Now let's get the 3 points!!
OSPREYSAINT
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9:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12
MGRA wrote:Says the man who wants to get rid of the bus I use to get to St Marys, but that's on another thread!
the goal keeper that was pretty much our ever-present during back-to-back promotions sits on the bench... meanwhile one of the three new goal keepers that is clearly not as good as him has just binned our lead...
st1halo
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4:52am Sun 11 Nov 12
saintsupnorth wrote:True!
draw better than a loss, a lot of positives i think
One main positive for me today !!
No danger of Guly being brought on!!
STID
MGRA says...
1:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12