Saints' goalkeeping dilemma - fans' poll

Paulo Gazzaniga

Paulo Gazzaniga

First published in Saints News

Saints manager Nigel Adkins faces another major decision over who to play in goal at QPR this weekend - but who would you start?

Paulo Gazzaniga has been given the nod for the last two Premier League matches, but his place could be in jeopardy after his error in the 1-1 draw with Swansea last Saturday.

Free agent signing Artur Boruc is available again after the club concluded an investigation into allegations that he threw a water bottle at home supporters during the 2-1 defeat to Spurs, at St Mary's, last month.

Kelvin Davis, who started the season as number one, has not played a league game since the 6-1 defeat at Arsenal in mid-September.

Place your votes above and your comments below, and the Daily Echo will print a selection in the coming days.

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1:28pm Tue 13 Nov 12

legod7 says...

It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal
It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal legod7
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1:31pm Tue 13 Nov 12

AaronLeeSaint says...

legod7 wrote:
It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal
I have t agree, he certainly has a good level of maturity about him, considering his top flight time.

He'll be a big Gk for us in the next few weeks and years ahead hopefully. He is a bit of a surprise and a great buy so far, young and confident, I hope he keeps it up.
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal[/p][/quote]I have t agree, he certainly has a good level of maturity about him, considering his top flight time. He'll be a big Gk for us in the next few weeks and years ahead hopefully. He is a bit of a surprise and a great buy so far, young and confident, I hope he keeps it up. AaronLeeSaint
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1:35pm Tue 13 Nov 12

tomw1234 says...

Gazza for me. I thought Yoshida was more at fault for the Swansea goal than anyone. Gazza is good with crosses and has made some good saves plus his distribution is usually pretty good. Kelvin Davis looks very overweight and clumsy to me this season while Artur Boruc seems to have a bad temper and didn't look much better than Davis.
Gazza for me. I thought Yoshida was more at fault for the Swansea goal than anyone. Gazza is good with crosses and has made some good saves plus his distribution is usually pretty good. Kelvin Davis looks very overweight and clumsy to me this season while Artur Boruc seems to have a bad temper and didn't look much better than Davis. tomw1234
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1:41pm Tue 13 Nov 12

drummernath says...

AaronLeeSaint wrote:
legod7 wrote:
It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal
I have t agree, he certainly has a good level of maturity about him, considering his top flight time.

He'll be a big Gk for us in the next few weeks and years ahead hopefully. He is a bit of a surprise and a great buy so far, young and confident, I hope he keeps it up.
I also agree. Got to think about the future too and the more he plays, the more effective he'll be in the crucial tail end of the season. Davis and Boruc are good backups if needed.
[quote][p][bold]AaronLeeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal[/p][/quote]I have t agree, he certainly has a good level of maturity about him, considering his top flight time. He'll be a big Gk for us in the next few weeks and years ahead hopefully. He is a bit of a surprise and a great buy so far, young and confident, I hope he keeps it up.[/p][/quote]I also agree. Got to think about the future too and the more he plays, the more effective he'll be in the crucial tail end of the season. Davis and Boruc are good backups if needed. drummernath
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1:58pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Redrobbo says...

Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper.
Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper. Redrobbo
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1:58pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Redrobbo says...

Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper.
Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper. Redrobbo
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2:00pm Tue 13 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Gazza for me too, can't castigate him for one error and he will have learned a lot from the experience.
Gazza for me too, can't castigate him for one error and he will have learned a lot from the experience. OSPREYSAINT
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2:02pm Tue 13 Nov 12

JackBauer24 says...

Without shadow of a doubt, Kelvin Davis. He has an understanding with the back line that has been developing for years, he's been around the block, its a must win game and we can't afford the inexperience. Gazza will be a great keeper, as was proven with his flying save in the first half vs Swansea. But his mistake for the goal was proof that he is not ready for this level yet, whereas Kelvin was not at fault for any of the goals that were let in when he was between the sticks for the first 4 matches. He could have done better, maybe, but there is a world of difference between being at fault and could have done better. Also take into account that Kelv was up against Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal! Gazza and Yoshida were categorically at fault for the Swansea goal, and in 3-5 years time, Gazza will be a great, great keeper- he's shown signs of it already. But he's still only 20 years old who before he joined us, only had experience in League 1. We cannot lose on Saturday. We need experience. We need someone who is up to the job. We need stability and continuity and someone who has spent years forming an understanding with Fonte and Hooiveld (who should replace Yoshida incidently). Therefore, we need Super Kelv!
Without shadow of a doubt, Kelvin Davis. He has an understanding with the back line that has been developing for years, he's been around the block, its a must win game and we can't afford the inexperience. Gazza will be a great keeper, as was proven with his flying save in the first half vs Swansea. But his mistake for the goal was proof that he is not ready for this level yet, whereas Kelvin was not at fault for any of the goals that were let in when he was between the sticks for the first 4 matches. He could have done better, maybe, but there is a world of difference between being at fault and could have done better. Also take into account that Kelv was up against Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal! Gazza and Yoshida were categorically at fault for the Swansea goal, and in 3-5 years time, Gazza will be a great, great keeper- he's shown signs of it already. But he's still only 20 years old who before he joined us, only had experience in League 1. We cannot lose on Saturday. We need experience. We need someone who is up to the job. We need stability and continuity and someone who has spent years forming an understanding with Fonte and Hooiveld (who should replace Yoshida incidently). Therefore, we need Super Kelv! JackBauer24
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2:07pm Tue 13 Nov 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

In my mind there is not a lot to chose between the 3.I think Gazza cost us a couple of points on saturday.for the QPR match which we must at least draw i would bring Kelvin back.If he fails to keep a clean sheet then for the next match i would bring BORUC back.If he fails to keep a clean sheet i would bring GAZZA back.The first keeper to keep a clean sheet i would then give a 6 match run to make the number 1 position their own.
Nigel could of course play his wild card and bring back TOMMY FORECAST from gillingham.i think that it is his 5th season with us and he hasn't played one 1st team league match for us.I was told that because we took him from spurs as part of the GARETH BALE deal,his coming to SAINTS meant that we or rather RUPERT LOWE agreed to forfeit any sell on percentage fee for BALE.Nice one Rupert they sure taught you common sense at harrow or wherever it was you were educated.
In my mind there is not a lot to chose between the 3.I think Gazza cost us a couple of points on saturday.for the QPR match which we must at least draw i would bring Kelvin back.If he fails to keep a clean sheet then for the next match i would bring BORUC back.If he fails to keep a clean sheet i would bring GAZZA back.The first keeper to keep a clean sheet i would then give a 6 match run to make the number 1 position their own. Nigel could of course play his wild card and bring back TOMMY FORECAST from gillingham.i think that it is his 5th season with us and he hasn't played one 1st team league match for us.I was told that because we took him from spurs as part of the GARETH BALE deal,his coming to SAINTS meant that we or rather RUPERT LOWE agreed to forfeit any sell on percentage fee for BALE.Nice one Rupert they sure taught you common sense at harrow or wherever it was you were educated. CB FRY LIVES
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2:30pm Tue 13 Nov 12

B.Hill Saint says...

Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years. B.Hill Saint
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3:02pm Tue 13 Nov 12

up saints says...

legod7 wrote:
It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal
you saved me wording the above most important part of your quote is the back four
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal[/p][/quote]you saved me wording the above most important part of your quote is the back four up saints
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3:18pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Bugney says...

Gazza is the future distribution is
Superior,hopefully will learn from Swansea game.
Need a big team performance Saturday,at it from the start it ain't
Gonna be pretty need to grind this one out if you get my drift.......
Gazza is the future distribution is Superior,hopefully will learn from Swansea game. Need a big team performance Saturday,at it from the start it ain't Gonna be pretty need to grind this one out if you get my drift....... Bugney
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3:29pm Tue 13 Nov 12

boondocksaint08 says...

Every keeper will make mistakes, Kelvin made a few costly ones earlier this season and Gazza made his against Swansea. Boruc is a hot mess right now so I wouldn't let him in between the sticks. I think it has to be Gazzaniga, I love Kelvin but of we want Gazza to be different than Bialkowski then we have to show him consistent minutes IMO.
Every keeper will make mistakes, Kelvin made a few costly ones earlier this season and Gazza made his against Swansea. Boruc is a hot mess right now so I wouldn't let him in between the sticks. I think it has to be Gazzaniga, I love Kelvin but of we want Gazza to be different than Bialkowski then we have to show him consistent minutes IMO. boondocksaint08
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3:53pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Shoong says...

Boruc is an experienced keep who has only played twice for us and needs a bit more work to get him completely match fit and to give him the opportunity to get to know the back line better.

Don't write him off just yet.
Boruc is an experienced keep who has only played twice for us and needs a bit more work to get him completely match fit and to give him the opportunity to get to know the back line better. Don't write him off just yet. Shoong
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4:05pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SaintRachel says...

The biggest problem is that it's not a good choice. None of them are premiership quality.
The biggest problem is that it's not a good choice. None of them are premiership quality. SaintRachel
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4:25pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SaintJD says...

Why, why, why can the likes of Kelvin Davis and Rickie Lambert even give anyone the opportunity to question their fitness levels. You would have thought for all the world that they would have trained harder than ever for what is essentially the biggest chance of their careers.

Equally, why, if they weren't 100%, were they able to get through pre-season without being placed on a special regime to help them catch up?

Rickie had always stated better fitness as the secret of his success in his early Saints career, seems bizarre he seemingly needed a rest in the early matches.
Why, why, why can the likes of Kelvin Davis and Rickie Lambert even give anyone the opportunity to question their fitness levels. You would have thought for all the world that they would have trained harder than ever for what is essentially the biggest chance of their careers. Equally, why, if they weren't 100%, were they able to get through pre-season without being placed on a special regime to help them catch up? Rickie had always stated better fitness as the secret of his success in his early Saints career, seems bizarre he seemingly needed a rest in the early matches. SaintJD
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4:26pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SFCOLDBOY says...

Gassa ,for me. Young, inexperienced he may be.
He has confidence and agility,his kicking from his hands and on ground is generally very good and he will have gained a lot from his mistake Saturday .
Potentially a very good goalkeeper for our future.
Gassa ,for me. Young, inexperienced he may be. He has confidence and agility,his kicking from his hands and on ground is generally very good and he will have gained a lot from his mistake Saturday . Potentially a very good goalkeeper for our future. SFCOLDBOY
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4:54pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SaintDon13 says...

This is refreshing, sensible discourse about football and not a Skate WUM in sight! Still Gazza for me this game.
This is refreshing, sensible discourse about football and not a Skate WUM in sight! Still Gazza for me this game. SaintDon13
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4:57pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SaintDon13 says...

SaintRachel wrote:
The biggest problem is that it's not a good choice. None of them are premiership quality.
You can still stick your neck out and chose one of the three and see if you get it right.
[quote][p][bold]SaintRachel[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem is that it's not a good choice. None of them are premiership quality.[/p][/quote]You can still stick your neck out and chose one of the three and see if you get it right. SaintDon13
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5:24pm Tue 13 Nov 12

SaintJD says...

I'd like to see Nigel come out and confirm who he sees as his definite number one.

The idea that you can change game to game if someone has a bad match means the most important foundation to your team isn't stable and it creates a situation where the keeper can't feel fully confident - belief is very important.

I felt Davis was the choice for this given our situation and lack of experience, but now Nigel has seemed to make his decision I think Gaz must now go forward knowing he is the No.1 choice for the foreseeable future.
I'd like to see Nigel come out and confirm who he sees as his definite number one. The idea that you can change game to game if someone has a bad match means the most important foundation to your team isn't stable and it creates a situation where the keeper can't feel fully confident - belief is very important. I felt Davis was the choice for this given our situation and lack of experience, but now Nigel has seemed to make his decision I think Gaz must now go forward knowing he is the No.1 choice for the foreseeable future. SaintJD
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5:25pm Tue 13 Nov 12

D.Armstrong76 says...

For me we deserved to win against swansea and the team looked settled and therefore a winning team deserves another chance. One mistake the goalie will learn he is young. He will know not to pass to Yoshida like that ever again. I think Gazza good be a legend in years to come . We deserved a penalty on Lallana that's why we were robbed.
For me we deserved to win against swansea and the team looked settled and therefore a winning team deserves another chance. One mistake the goalie will learn he is young. He will know not to pass to Yoshida like that ever again. I think Gazza good be a legend in years to come . We deserved a penalty on Lallana that's why we were robbed. D.Armstrong76
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5:31pm Tue 13 Nov 12

JackBauer24 says...

B.Hill Saint wrote:
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward.

Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing.

And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.
[quote][p][bold]B.Hill Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward. Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing. And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably. JackBauer24
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5:38pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

With that defence play all three together!
With that defence play all three together! Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:43pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Thornhill Saint says...

Redrobbo wrote:
Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper.
Seen enough of Boruc. Does not command the penalty area at all. Gazza all the way!
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote: Gazza for me. he has played the last two games and apart from the error against Swansea then has done nothing wrong.All goalkeepers at some time mess up a kick. I disagree that Yoshida was at fault, the ball should have been wellied up field. I have not seen enough of Boruc to make a judgement, but Gazza is the man with the shirt and has done nothing to warrant losing it.Davis was beaten at the near post twice in the first two games, that is a cardinal sin for a goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Seen enough of Boruc. Does not command the penalty area at all. Gazza all the way! Thornhill Saint
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6:52pm Tue 13 Nov 12

hedgeenddan says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
With that defence play all three together!
AGREEEEEE
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: With that defence play all three together![/p][/quote]AGREEEEEE hedgeenddan
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7:00pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Red n White says...

If Boruc was match fit I think he'd be first choice. It seems he didn't do much work over the summer to keep fit whilst without a club though. I like Gazzaniga who seems to have some sort of cockiness about him which I feel is needed to be a keeper. I think Davis is more mistake prone - I still have nightmares about that time he tried shielding the ball out of play v QPR, only for Blackstock to tackle him and score when in the Championship. He also made some errors earlier in the season by not covering his near post well enough.
Therefore at the moment I would pick Gazza.
If Boruc was match fit I think he'd be first choice. It seems he didn't do much work over the summer to keep fit whilst without a club though. I like Gazzaniga who seems to have some sort of cockiness about him which I feel is needed to be a keeper. I think Davis is more mistake prone - I still have nightmares about that time he tried shielding the ball out of play v QPR, only for Blackstock to tackle him and score when in the Championship. He also made some errors earlier in the season by not covering his near post well enough. Therefore at the moment I would pick Gazza. Red n White
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7:17pm Tue 13 Nov 12

florida saint says...

OH memories gone have they. kelvin has been superb for last 3 years. def kelvin 4 me , i think we need an experienced keeper for now , gazza looks good though for next year. With our defence we need 2 keepers.
come on saints get a win at qpr and put a smile back on my face, ive right got the hump at the mo.im driving the mrs mad. still i talked her into a flight back from florida for the reading game. u t s red aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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OH memories gone have they. kelvin has been superb for last 3 years. def kelvin 4 me , i think we need an experienced keeper for now , gazza looks good though for next year. With our defence we need 2 keepers. come on saints get a win at qpr and put a smile back on my face, ive right got the hump at the mo.im driving the mrs mad. still i talked her into a flight back from florida for the reading game. u t s red aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrmy. florida saint
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9:02pm Tue 13 Nov 12

andylymington says...

It very unfortunate when a keeper makes mistake as it is so often a disaster, but he will learn from this, and for me must play on sat
It very unfortunate when a keeper makes mistake as it is so often a disaster, but he will learn from this, and for me must play on sat andylymington
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9:19pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Peachiesleftfoot says...

legod7 wrote:
It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal
Agreed, he'll learn from Saturday
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: It has to be Gazzaniga. Commands the penalty area much better than the other two. Also the back four appear to be happier with him in goal[/p][/quote]Agreed, he'll learn from Saturday Peachiesleftfoot
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9:26pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Peachiesleftfoot says...

JackBauer24 wrote:
B.Hill Saint wrote:
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward.

Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing.

And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.
I think you may be forgetting the points dropped in a number of other games you haven't mentioned here.

Kelvin has had his day I think we need to look forward. Gazza hasn't done too much wrong this season and the defence appear more confident with him in goal
[quote][p][bold]JackBauer24[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.Hill Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward. Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing. And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.[/p][/quote]I think you may be forgetting the points dropped in a number of other games you haven't mentioned here. Kelvin has had his day I think we need to look forward. Gazza hasn't done too much wrong this season and the defence appear more confident with him in goal Peachiesleftfoot
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9:46pm Tue 13 Nov 12

holburyhalo says...

Gazza for me he reminds me of the spanish goalkeeper who's been brilliant since he was 18, unlike most goalie's who mature later. I am very sorry for kelvin,but i think the prem is just a little bit above him, just ask sunderland supporters.
Gazza for me he reminds me of the spanish goalkeeper who's been brilliant since he was 18, unlike most goalie's who mature later. I am very sorry for kelvin,but i think the prem is just a little bit above him, just ask sunderland supporters. holburyhalo
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10:02pm Tue 13 Nov 12

penalty says...

Has to be Gazza. Surely he's our long term keeper and he needs to atone for his dodgy clearance (although no excuse, I just had a hunch that something was about to go wrong when Corky played it backwards to Yoshy). NA would be wrong to make another keeper change- this would do more harm than good. I agree with 'red n White' that Gazza has a slight cockiness/ arrogance about him which I think is a positive trait. Kelvin is an absolute model pro, but should only be used as no 2. Boric is a waste of space- he looks unfit and dis-interested to me. Jos needs to come in for Yoshy against QPR.
Red Army!!!
Has to be Gazza. Surely he's our long term keeper and he needs to atone for his dodgy clearance (although no excuse, I just had a hunch that something was about to go wrong when Corky played it backwards to Yoshy). NA would be wrong to make another keeper change- this would do more harm than good. I agree with 'red n White' that Gazza has a slight cockiness/ arrogance about him which I think is a positive trait. Kelvin is an absolute model pro, but should only be used as no 2. Boric is a waste of space- he looks unfit and dis-interested to me. Jos needs to come in for Yoshy against QPR. Red Army!!! penalty
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10:12pm Tue 13 Nov 12

City Saint says...

Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts.

Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one.

Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough.

The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot.

There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches.

NEXT!
Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts. Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one. Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough. The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot. There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches. NEXT! City Saint
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10:37pm Tue 13 Nov 12

penalty says...

City Saint wrote:
Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts.

Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one.

Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough.

The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot.

There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches.

NEXT!
Good comment!

Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet.
Hope NA did.....

COYR!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts. Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one. Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough. The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot. There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches. NEXT![/p][/quote]Good comment! Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet. Hope NA did..... COYR!!!!! penalty
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10:38pm Tue 13 Nov 12

penalty says...

City Saint wrote:
Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts.

Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one.

Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough.

The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot.

There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches.

NEXT!
Good comment!

Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet.
Hope NA did.....

COYR!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts. Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one. Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough. The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot. There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches. NEXT![/p][/quote]Good comment! Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet. Hope NA did..... COYR!!!!! penalty
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10:38pm Tue 13 Nov 12

penalty says...

City Saint wrote:
Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts.

Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one.

Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough.

The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot.

There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches.

NEXT!
Good comment!

Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet.
Hope NA did.....

COYR!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazzaniga is the man. He is calm, and Isis distribution has been top class. I was dubious when we bought him from Gillingham, after seeing him in goal for a few matches I think he could be the steal of the season. Credit to the scouts. Kelvin's distribution is a problem at this level. His free kicks invite pressure on the back four almost immediately--when you couple that with the fact that they are under more pressure anyways because of the attacking class of the premiership, we can't afford to write off crappy distribution from kelv the way we did in the chapmpionship and league one. Super kelv remains, by a country mile, the best shot-stopper. He will forever be a legend for what he did, and he will be a fantastic second for as long as he wants it. If we wants to move on, fair enough. The holy goalie boric is a to$$er for what he did to the fans. It ain't right, and I know it's been "dealt with internally", but he also looks overweight and temperamental to boot. There's a reason he was a free agent, and we found it out in three matches. NEXT![/p][/quote]Good comment! Anyone else listen to George Graham on 5 live last night re coaching/ tactics for defenders? I think he scared them into keeping a clean sheet. Hope NA did..... COYR!!!!! penalty
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12:41am Wed 14 Nov 12

JackBauer24 says...

Peachiesleftfoot wrote:
JackBauer24 wrote:
B.Hill Saint wrote:
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward.

Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing.

And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.
I think you may be forgetting the points dropped in a number of other games you haven't mentioned here.

Kelvin has had his day I think we need to look forward. Gazza hasn't done too much wrong this season and the defence appear more confident with him in goal
Well first of all, I'm not forgetting those incidents, and I fully accept he could have done better on some of the goals he's conceded this season. But like I said in the first point, was he at fault for thoses goals? Categorically at fault, to blame? IMO no. IMO he was massively let down by the 4 clowns he had in front of him. Arsenal game he was really let down by Fox and Clyne, Yoshida had only been in the country a few days, Jos went off injured and the less said about Fonte, the better. Man Utd and Man City- he was up against Man Utd and Man City! Two of the best teams in Europe! And he saved penalties against both! I think we should cut him some slack. Wigan, again, Fonte let him down there.

I think its the other way round- Gazza will have his day, undoubtedly. Just don't let it be Saturday. And the defence don't look confident with him in goal- West Brom we looked nervous and all over the place.
[quote][p][bold]Peachiesleftfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackBauer24[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.Hill Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward. Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing. And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.[/p][/quote]I think you may be forgetting the points dropped in a number of other games you haven't mentioned here. Kelvin has had his day I think we need to look forward. Gazza hasn't done too much wrong this season and the defence appear more confident with him in goal[/p][/quote]Well first of all, I'm not forgetting those incidents, and I fully accept he could have done better on some of the goals he's conceded this season. But like I said in the first point, was he [bold]at fault[/bold] for thoses goals? Categorically at fault, to blame? IMO no. IMO he was massively let down by the 4 clowns he had in front of him. Arsenal game he was really let down by Fox and Clyne, Yoshida had only been in the country a few days, Jos went off injured and the less said about Fonte, the better. Man Utd and Man City- he was up against Man Utd and Man City! Two of the best teams in Europe! And he saved penalties against both! I think we should cut him some slack. Wigan, again, Fonte let him down there. I think its the other way round- Gazza will have his day, undoubtedly. Just don't let it be Saturday. And the defence don't look confident with him in goal- West Brom we looked nervous and all over the place. JackBauer24
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12:47am Wed 14 Nov 12

JackBauer24 says...

florida saint wrote:
OH memories gone have they. kelvin has been superb for last 3 years. def kelvin 4 me , i think we need an experienced keeper for now , gazza looks good though for next year. With our defence we need 2 keepers.
come on saints get a win at qpr and put a smile back on my face, ive right got the hump at the mo.im driving the mrs mad. still i talked her into a flight back from florida for the reading game. u t s red aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

rrrrrrrrrmy.
Totally agree mate. Very short-term memories. If you're behind Adkins and want him to stay 'after all he's done, back-to-back-promoto
tions' then surely Kelvin deserves the same courtesy. Both have done outstanding jobs. Look, the only games Kelvin has been in goal for this season was Man City, Wigan, Man Utd and Arsenal. I think we owe him QPR or Norwich!
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: OH memories gone have they. kelvin has been superb for last 3 years. def kelvin 4 me , i think we need an experienced keeper for now , gazza looks good though for next year. With our defence we need 2 keepers. come on saints get a win at qpr and put a smile back on my face, ive right got the hump at the mo.im driving the mrs mad. still i talked her into a flight back from florida for the reading game. u t s red aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrmy.[/p][/quote]Totally agree mate. Very short-term memories. If you're behind Adkins and want him to stay 'after all he's done, back-to-back-promoto tions' then surely Kelvin deserves the same courtesy. Both have done outstanding jobs. Look, the only games Kelvin has been in goal for this season was Man City, Wigan, Man Utd and Arsenal. I think we owe him QPR or Norwich! JackBauer24
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7:20am Wed 14 Nov 12

SaintsOverseer says...

Got to be Paulo for me but with 2 experienced CB's in front of him, thats the key to a stable defence not the current mediocre defending we have witnessed time and time again this season, hope Nige is given time to sort it in January, QPR a massive game for all at SFC this weekend COYR
Got to be Paulo for me but with 2 experienced CB's in front of him, thats the key to a stable defence not the current mediocre defending we have witnessed time and time again this season, hope Nige is given time to sort it in January, QPR a massive game for all at SFC this weekend COYR SaintsOverseer
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9:20am Wed 14 Nov 12

The Travelling Saint says...

From what I've seen from further afield this year, The full backs have been at fault for a lot of goals. If its not Fox going walkabout leaving huge gaps, it's Clyne ball watching and letting someone in. Gazza needs to be given a run in the team. I think KD is a great backup to him and Boruc a waste of time.
Cork returning is a big boost, he's far better than S Davis in there. Give RL and JR a run together too to find a partnership. My Xl would be:
Gazza

Richardson (if fit, if not Clyne)
Fonte
Yoshida
Shaw

Ramirez
Cork
Schneiderlin
Lallana

Lambert
Rodriguez
From what I've seen from further afield this year, The full backs have been at fault for a lot of goals. If its not Fox going walkabout leaving huge gaps, it's Clyne ball watching and letting someone in. Gazza needs to be given a run in the team. I think KD is a great backup to him and Boruc a waste of time. Cork returning is a big boost, he's far better than S Davis in there. Give RL and JR a run together too to find a partnership. My Xl would be: Gazza Richardson (if fit, if not Clyne) Fonte Yoshida Shaw Ramirez Cork Schneiderlin Lallana Lambert Rodriguez The Travelling Saint
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9:46am Wed 14 Nov 12

Andover Saint says...

The Travelling Saint wrote:
From what I've seen from further afield this year, The full backs have been at fault for a lot of goals. If its not Fox going walkabout leaving huge gaps, it's Clyne ball watching and letting someone in. Gazza needs to be given a run in the team. I think KD is a great backup to him and Boruc a waste of time.
Cork returning is a big boost, he's far better than S Davis in there. Give RL and JR a run together too to find a partnership. My Xl would be:
Gazza

Richardson (if fit, if not Clyne)
Fonte
Yoshida
Shaw

Ramirez
Cork
Schneiderlin
Lallana

Lambert
Rodriguez
Clyne is our best defender and u want him on the bench!
[quote][p][bold]The Travelling Saint[/bold] wrote: From what I've seen from further afield this year, The full backs have been at fault for a lot of goals. If its not Fox going walkabout leaving huge gaps, it's Clyne ball watching and letting someone in. Gazza needs to be given a run in the team. I think KD is a great backup to him and Boruc a waste of time. Cork returning is a big boost, he's far better than S Davis in there. Give RL and JR a run together too to find a partnership. My Xl would be: Gazza Richardson (if fit, if not Clyne) Fonte Yoshida Shaw Ramirez Cork Schneiderlin Lallana Lambert Rodriguez[/p][/quote]Clyne is our best defender and u want him on the bench! Andover Saint
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9:57am Wed 14 Nov 12

AaronLeeSaint says...

Gazzaniga

Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw

Puncheon, Davis, Cork, Lallana

Ramirez

Lambert
Gazzaniga Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw Puncheon, Davis, Cork, Lallana Ramirez Lambert AaronLeeSaint
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12:13pm Wed 14 Nov 12

teamster says...

Kelvin Davis is a shot stopper and that is it, he never commands his area and his distribution is shocking!!! He instills little confidence for the back line. Gazzaniga has impressed me even though he was at fault Saturday no question, stick with him and show we back him as a keeper otherwise if he is dropped everytime he makes an error he will lose any confidence he has gained.
Kelvin Davis is a shot stopper and that is it, he never commands his area and his distribution is shocking!!! He instills little confidence for the back line. Gazzaniga has impressed me even though he was at fault Saturday no question, stick with him and show we back him as a keeper otherwise if he is dropped everytime he makes an error he will lose any confidence he has gained. teamster
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12:32pm Wed 14 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

AaronLeeSaint wrote:
Gazzaniga Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw Puncheon, Davis, Cork, Lallana Ramirez Lambert
As above but Spider for Davis. Also, I'm unconvinced by Yoshiba so he's in there for now but we need someone better.
[quote][p][bold]AaronLeeSaint[/bold] wrote: Gazzaniga Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw Puncheon, Davis, Cork, Lallana Ramirez Lambert[/p][/quote]As above but Spider for Davis. Also, I'm unconvinced by Yoshiba so he's in there for now but we need someone better. GX Saint
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2:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

TEBOURBA says...

You could play all three at the same time and they wouldn't keep a clean sheet.
You could play all three at the same time and they wouldn't keep a clean sheet. TEBOURBA
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3:52pm Wed 14 Nov 12

SaintDon13 says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
You could play all three at the same time and they wouldn't keep a clean sheet.
Always one that has to spoil a near perfect thread.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: You could play all three at the same time and they wouldn't keep a clean sheet.[/p][/quote]Always one that has to spoil a near perfect thread. SaintDon13
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11:36pm Wed 14 Nov 12

st1halo says...

JackBauer24 wrote:
Without shadow of a doubt, Kelvin Davis. He has an understanding with the back line that has been developing for years, he's been around the block, its a must win game and we can't afford the inexperience. Gazza will be a great keeper, as was proven with his flying save in the first half vs Swansea. But his mistake for the goal was proof that he is not ready for this level yet, whereas Kelvin was not at fault for any of the goals that were let in when he was between the sticks for the first 4 matches. He could have done better, maybe, but there is a world of difference between being at fault and could have done better. Also take into account that Kelv was up against Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal! Gazza and Yoshida were categorically at fault for the Swansea goal, and in 3-5 years time, Gazza will be a great, great keeper- he's shown signs of it already. But he's still only 20 years old who before he joined us, only had experience in League 1. We cannot lose on Saturday. We need experience. We need someone who is up to the job. We need stability and continuity and someone who has spent years forming an understanding with Fonte and Hooiveld (who should replace Yoshida incidently). Therefore, we need Super Kelv!
KD was awful at the start of the season, Kept rolling the ball out without looking and putting our defence under pressure and getting caught at his near post again and again. Thanks for your service but no thanks!
Gazza the only choice for me
Experience brings confidence so let's stick with him

STID
[quote][p][bold]JackBauer24[/bold] wrote: Without shadow of a doubt, Kelvin Davis. He has an understanding with the back line that has been developing for years, he's been around the block, its a must win game and we can't afford the inexperience. Gazza will be a great keeper, as was proven with his flying save in the first half vs Swansea. But his mistake for the goal was proof that he is not ready for this level yet, whereas Kelvin was not at fault for any of the goals that were let in when he was between the sticks for the first 4 matches. He could have done better, maybe, but there is a world of difference between being at fault and could have done better. Also take into account that Kelv was up against Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal! Gazza and Yoshida were categorically at fault for the Swansea goal, and in 3-5 years time, Gazza will be a great, great keeper- he's shown signs of it already. But he's still only 20 years old who before he joined us, only had experience in League 1. We cannot lose on Saturday. We need experience. We need someone who is up to the job. We need stability and continuity and someone who has spent years forming an understanding with Fonte and Hooiveld (who should replace Yoshida incidently). Therefore, we need Super Kelv![/p][/quote]KD was awful at the start of the season, Kept rolling the ball out without looking and putting our defence under pressure and getting caught at his near post again and again. Thanks for your service but no thanks! Gazza the only choice for me Experience brings confidence so let's stick with him STID st1halo
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11:44pm Wed 14 Nov 12

st1halo says...

JackBauer24 wrote:
B.Hill Saint wrote:
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward.

Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing.

And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.
OK Kelvin we know it's you!!!,
[quote][p][bold]JackBauer24[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.Hill Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward. Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing. And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.[/p][/quote]OK Kelvin we know it's you!!!, st1halo
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11:52pm Wed 14 Nov 12

st1halo says...

JackBauer24 wrote:
B.Hill Saint wrote:
Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.
I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward.

Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing.

And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.
I suggest you watch the early games again if you are able.
You will see that KD's distribution was simply terrible which for a keeper of his experience is unacceptable.
He also looks frightened half to death so hardly inspiring for the back 4.
Playing Gazza was essential and now we need to build his confidence, not undermine it. He already seems to be quite assured

N.A.

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[quote][p][bold]JackBauer24[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B.Hill Saint[/bold] wrote: Gazza deserves a run of games. All goalkeepers make mistakes. Lets give him a chace to see if he is mature enough to learn from them. If he continues to improve he could solve a big problem for us in the long term. Kelvin also should be number 2 as reward for what he has done over the years.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but thats hardly a reward. Well done and thanks for sticking with us, deflecting wages when we were administration, staying with a League 1 team instead of going to Premier League West Ham, for those saves against Leeds last season which imo got us promoted, and now here's your big reward: You get to sit on a bench!!! I'm surprised he hasn't dedicated his programme column to express his graditude for such a wonderful reward. Seriously if anything its a kick in the teeth- you do all the hard work to get there, then sit on a bench- if I were him, I'd walk out in January if we don't start playing him. He's too good a keeper not to be playing. And I've been reading all your comments saying how Gazza and there are three common themes. One is that he's inexperienced but apparantly thats fine. I'm sorry, but enthusiasm is not going to cut the mustard in the biggest game of the season. You need experience, a level head and someone who's not going to do foolish stuff when under pressure. Second theme is that he is potentially a great keeper- I agree. Potentially. Surely at a time when we need a win, potentially a great keeper in 3-5 years, isn't exactly what we need. Third theme is he made a mistake and lets give him another chance. Again, I agree, but Kelvin wasn't at fault for the goals earlier in the season, and yet he wasn't given another chance. I'm sorry, but the only way we're going to get some points on the board is with Kelvin Davis between the sticks and a defence of Clyne, Jos the Boss, Fonte and Shaw. Center mids of Cork and Spidey. Attacking wingers of Ramirez and Lallana. Strikeforce of Mayuka and Lambert. That, my friends, is the team that'll not only keep us in the division, but do so comfortably.[/p][/quote]I suggest you watch the early games again if you are able. You will see that KD's distribution was simply terrible which for a keeper of his experience is unacceptable. He also looks frightened half to death so hardly inspiring for the back 4. Playing Gazza was essential and now we need to build his confidence, not undermine it. He already seems to be quite assured N.A. I mean STID st1halo
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