Adkins: I don't owe Pardew anything

Adkins: I don't owe Pardew anything

Nigel Adkins

Alan Pardew

First published in Saints News

Saints manager Nigel Adkins has told Alan Pardew ahead of his return to St Mary’s that he doesn’t owe him “any debt of gratitude at all”.

Pardew, who is now in charge of Newcastle, will return to the club on Sunday for the first time since he was sacked in August 2010.

Adkins succeeded the 51-year-old at St Mary’s and won promotion from League One using a team largely built by his predecessor.

Since then, though, the incumbent manager has taken the club to new heights, leading them to the Premier League, and evolving the squad into his own.

Some of Pardew’s acquisitions still remain key components of Adkins’ side, however, notably top scorer Rickie Lambert and also centre half Jose Fonte.

But the Saints manager insists he has no reason to thank Pardew for anything.

“I don’t think I owe him any debt of gratitude at all,” said Adkins. “Whatever situation arose, he moved on. I am the manager of Southampton Football Club.

“We’ve just had back-to-back promotions, we’re doing ever so well in our forward progression.”

Adkins says that Pardew will be treated the same as any other visiting manager when he arrives back at the stadium, and that he will be invited to share a drink after the match.

“We always welcome the opposition manager, whoever it is, to St Mary’s,” said Adkins, who has no new injury concerns ahead of tomorrow’s contest.

“When the whistle blows, then it is go to win a game of football.

“Afterwards we always invite them in for a drink. We’ve done that consistently. It doesn’t matter who the manager is, that is what we’ve always done and what we will continue to do.”

For a full preview of Saints v Newcastle, see Saturday's Southern Daily Echo.

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6:15pm Fri 23 Nov 12

justaSaintsfan says...

What about inviting us Saints fans, Nigel!
What about inviting us Saints fans, Nigel! justaSaintsfan
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6:16pm Fri 23 Nov 12

SFCSaint says...

Good on you Nige your absolutely right! bring those 3 points home and then invite them and Pards for a drink and rub their noses in it! COYR
Good on you Nige your absolutely right! bring those 3 points home and then invite them and Pards for a drink and rub their noses in it! COYR SFCSaint
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6:18pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Abbey Saint says...

What's the source/context on this? Sounds more like Echo mischief.
What's the source/context on this? Sounds more like Echo mischief. Abbey Saint
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6:21pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

nigel is right , he owes alan (terbourba) nothing at all , as a saints fan i feel i do .
nigel is right , he owes alan (terbourba) nothing at all , as a saints fan i feel i do . slugger
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6:38pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them. OSPREYSAINT
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6:41pm Fri 23 Nov 12

scooter75 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
Nice photo .......
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]Nice photo ....... scooter75
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7:03pm Fri 23 Nov 12

angus mc coatup says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break.

he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look.

It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break. he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look. It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself. angus mc coatup
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7:06pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break.

he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look.

It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.
How do you explain the background?
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break. he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look. It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.[/p][/quote]How do you explain the background? OSPREYSAINT
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7:08pm Fri 23 Nov 12

angus mc coatup says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break.

he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look.

It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.
How do you explain the background?
very blurred.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break. he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look. It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.[/p][/quote]How do you explain the background?[/p][/quote]very blurred. angus mc coatup
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7:09pm Fri 23 Nov 12

mack chinnon says...

I wonder if Nigel And Alan will have a chat about Guly.
I wonder if Nigel And Alan will have a chat about Guly. mack chinnon
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7:10pm Fri 23 Nov 12

kent141 says...

jeez ..the stains will be lining up at the sunbed shop to look just like their hero.
jeez ..the stains will be lining up at the sunbed shop to look just like their hero. kent141
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7:12pm Fri 23 Nov 12

angus mc coatup says...

sssssshhhhhh !!!
sssssshhhhhh !!! angus mc coatup
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7:14pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break.

he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look.

It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.
How do you explain the background?
very blurred.
Thank goodness I thought my eyes had gone wonky.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]I like that photo of nige,must have been taken just after the summer break. he's a nice tanned colour,which is of course a much sought after healthy look. It's also a much better colour than our skate fans, whch seems to get greener by the day.and he's right he dosen't owe pardew anything,he did it all by himself.[/p][/quote]How do you explain the background?[/p][/quote]very blurred.[/p][/quote]Thank goodness I thought my eyes had gone wonky. OSPREYSAINT
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7:17pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Southampton Dominance says...

What have they done to our Nigel? He looks like the mascot for Spain 82! Disgraceful! The joke has crossed the line! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What have they done to our Nigel? He looks like the mascot for Spain 82! Disgraceful! The joke has crossed the line! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Southampton Dominance
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7:18pm Fri 23 Nov 12

North Wales Saint says...

Nigel may well feel that he doesn't owe anything to Pardew, but I think we Saints fans do. Pardew kick started our journey back to the Premiership, signed most of the players who got us there, and gave us that great day out at Wembley. So I hope he gets a decent reception before the game on Sunday - though after kick-off all the chanting will be for Nigel !
Nigel may well feel that he doesn't owe anything to Pardew, but I think we Saints fans do. Pardew kick started our journey back to the Premiership, signed most of the players who got us there, and gave us that great day out at Wembley. So I hope he gets a decent reception before the game on Sunday - though after kick-off all the chanting will be for Nigel ! North Wales Saint
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7:27pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Well one thing's for certain, if Jose smacks him in the mouth & gets sent off before the kick off we can all pretty much assume the rumors are true? Sorry Pard's, you did get wheels in motion but the best English manager in the Prem is going to enjoy his Sunday night, while you have a quiet journey back to the North East......oh and to the lost skunt souls...Shhhhhhhhhhh
hh
Well one thing's for certain, if Jose smacks him in the mouth & gets sent off before the kick off we can all pretty much assume the rumors are true? Sorry Pard's, you did get wheels in motion but the best English manager in the Prem is going to enjoy his Sunday night, while you have a quiet journey back to the North East......oh and to the lost skunt souls...Shhhhhhhhhhh hh Tye-Dye pt2
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7:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Winsaint says...

Pardew laid the foundations and Nigel carried on the good work so if he owes Pardew anything it is the fact he was responsable for changing the mindset of the club from one of exceptance of defeat and relegation to a club thinking of progression and success. On Sunday however Pardew is on the other side so 3 points heading south

COYR
Pardew laid the foundations and Nigel carried on the good work so if he owes Pardew anything it is the fact he was responsable for changing the mindset of the club from one of exceptance of defeat and relegation to a club thinking of progression and success. On Sunday however Pardew is on the other side so 3 points heading south COYR Winsaint
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8:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12

saintkenny says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.
its a old picture after his deserved summer holiday .least its a nice way to get browned off .the skunts managers just get browned off with how there treated and all the rubbish they have to put up with .they leave once a better job comes a long .so has they cant keep a good manager anymore it entertains them appy was crap anyway 5 defeats in league one ,now its going to be 8 .against a team we beat 3 times last season twice in there back yard,be another good laugh ,might stay up till silly o clock watch the sky blues goals
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Why do they persist with that awful photo, don't they know it causes extreme arousal in our OCD skunts. It's bad for them.[/p][/quote]its a old picture after his deserved summer holiday .least its a nice way to get browned off .the skunts managers just get browned off with how there treated and all the rubbish they have to put up with .they leave once a better job comes a long .so has they cant keep a good manager anymore it entertains them appy was crap anyway 5 defeats in league one ,now its going to be 8 .against a team we beat 3 times last season twice in there back yard,be another good laugh ,might stay up till silly o clock watch the sky blues goals saintkenny
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8:44pm Fri 23 Nov 12

City Saint says...

Well, that's not very Saintly of our Nige! It also seems a bit unlike him. Either he's being quoted out of context or he has suddenly developed a tetchy streak.

I assume this is a quote out of context.

Both of these gentlemen have been important to the rally of the Saints since 2009. And Nigel is still the man. I'll applaud them both.

We can win this one, let's look to beat a drifting Newcastle, no matter who is at the helm there.
Well, that's not very Saintly of our Nige! It also seems a bit unlike him. Either he's being quoted out of context or he has suddenly developed a tetchy streak. I assume this is a quote out of context. Both of these gentlemen have been important to the rally of the Saints since 2009. And Nigel is still the man. I'll applaud them both. We can win this one, let's look to beat a drifting Newcastle, no matter who is at the helm there. City Saint
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9:31pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Saint not skate says...

007 (soon to be 8) Skatefall

When the skates fall
When fratton crumbles
The saints will stand tall
Laughing all together
When the skates fall
When the skates fall

Shalalalalalalala!! Dexter Blackstock's waiting for you!!!!
007 (soon to be 8) Skatefall When the skates fall When fratton crumbles The saints will stand tall Laughing all together When the skates fall When the skates fall Shalalalalalalala!! Dexter Blackstock's waiting for you!!!! Saint not skate
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9:56pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Baddesley Bill says...

If someone held a gun to my head and asked me to bet on either Saints or poopey to win this weekend....I would have to say Saints.
Funny thing is....so would most skunts! :0)
If someone held a gun to my head and asked me to bet on either Saints or poopey to win this weekend....I would have to say Saints. Funny thing is....so would most skunts! :0) Baddesley Bill
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10:23pm Fri 23 Nov 12

saintshorse101 says...

i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion.
i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion. saintshorse101
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10:27pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

at the end of the day i know who i'd rather have in charge ......... cheers alan (tebourba) and good luck ..... nigel is the man !
at the end of the day i know who i'd rather have in charge ......... cheers alan (tebourba) and good luck ..... nigel is the man ! slugger
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10:32pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Folkestone Saint says...

I found it odd that skuts kept referring to Nige's colour, then I realised they don't know what a sun-tan is as they can't afford to go abroad for a holiday 'and' buy tickets for pack the park.
I found it odd that skuts kept referring to Nige's colour, then I realised they don't know what a sun-tan is as they can't afford to go abroad for a holiday 'and' buy tickets for pack the park. Folkestone Saint
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10:40pm Fri 23 Nov 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job.
A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job. SaintsBTGOG
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10:44pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job.
it's cortese .........shussssh .
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job.[/p][/quote]it's cortese .........shussssh . slugger
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11:12pm Fri 23 Nov 12

hedge end bob says...

kent141 wrote:
jeez ..the stains will be lining up at the sunbed shop to look just like their hero.
ssssssssssssssssssss
sssssssssssssssssshh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhh
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: jeez ..the stains will be lining up at the sunbed shop to look just like their hero.[/p][/quote]ssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssshh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhh hedge end bob
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11:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Invidia says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job.
Well may I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: A very poor comment from Adkins to be honest. I wonder if he had been prompted by Clotese ? That btw is one of the main reasons the italian midget dumped Pardew because AP got fed up with him telling him how to do his job.[/p][/quote]Well may I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we? Invidia
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11:25pm Fri 23 Nov 12

hedge end bob says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion.
Well said saintshorse101,
Your right MARKUS IS A BIG REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
I miss that smile but i am sure he still watches the team from the best seat in the world.
Pards done well,

Nigels done better.

Pards is now batting against us.

We all are backing NIGEL, SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WE STAND, FORWARD WE MARCH.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Well said saintshorse101, Your right MARKUS IS A BIG REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. I miss that smile but i am sure he still watches the team from the best seat in the world. Pards done well, Nigels done better. Pards is now batting against us. We all are backing NIGEL, SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WE STAND, FORWARD WE MARCH. hedge end bob
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11:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Oldfan says...

So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints.

OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.
So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints. OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best. Oldfan
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11:45pm Fri 23 Nov 12

City Saint says...

Oldfan wrote:
So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints.

OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.
I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....?
[quote][p][bold]Oldfan[/bold] wrote: So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints. OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.[/p][/quote]I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....? City Saint
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12:49am Sat 24 Nov 12

saintsupnorth says...

Let's face it anybody can buy a player or promote a player to the first team. It takes Dedicated Staff who we rarely see in the limelight to make them into top players. The unsung heroes who work hard with players to help them progress. Having a good manager is important, but to say its down to the manager alone on how good Lambert is etc is a false statement. So think Nige is spot on with what he has said.
Let's face it anybody can buy a player or promote a player to the first team. It takes Dedicated Staff who we rarely see in the limelight to make them into top players. The unsung heroes who work hard with players to help them progress. Having a good manager is important, but to say its down to the manager alone on how good Lambert is etc is a false statement. So think Nige is spot on with what he has said. saintsupnorth
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5:11am Sat 24 Nov 12

batesieboy says...

I hope that before the game Saints fans welcome Pardew so that he realises what he threw away. Then when the match starts, get behind the Saints and win it. Three points please, the Geordies are there for the taking, so let's do it!!
I hope that before the game Saints fans welcome Pardew so that he realises what he threw away. Then when the match starts, get behind the Saints and win it. Three points please, the Geordies are there for the taking, so let's do it!! batesieboy
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7:09am Sat 24 Nov 12

Vijay Baboolall Mauritius says...

Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.
Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there. Vijay Baboolall Mauritius
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7:58am Sat 24 Nov 12

Oldfan says...

City Saint wrote:
Oldfan wrote:
So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints.

OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.
I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....?
Newcastle were 5th in the Premiership qualifying for Europe. And they have done well to progress beyond the group stages of that competiton.

As for NA avoiding relegation this season is all that is left (hopefully that task is not already beyond him).

Even so with so many players likely to be missing for Newcastle then they must be there for the taking this week end. If we are to survive it is vital that Saints take this opportunity for 3 points.
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldfan[/bold] wrote: So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints. OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.[/p][/quote]I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....?[/p][/quote]Newcastle were 5th in the Premiership qualifying for Europe. And they have done well to progress beyond the group stages of that competiton. As for NA avoiding relegation this season is all that is left (hopefully that task is not already beyond him). Even so with so many players likely to be missing for Newcastle then they must be there for the taking this week end. If we are to survive it is vital that Saints take this opportunity for 3 points. Oldfan
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8:08am Sat 24 Nov 12

Hobson82 says...

Does anyone else think Nigel looks a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson??
Does anyone else think Nigel looks a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson?? Hobson82
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8:17am Sat 24 Nov 12

Southampton boy says...

Yes AP give us a good day out but NA has taken us into the prem he is our manager now and I feel one of our best if he keeps us upten he wil be the greatest manager we ever had so believe in the man
THERES ONLY ON NIGEL ADKINS

COYR'S
Yes AP give us a good day out but NA has taken us into the prem he is our manager now and I feel one of our best if he keeps us upten he wil be the greatest manager we ever had so believe in the man THERES ONLY ON NIGEL ADKINS COYR'S Southampton boy
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8:22am Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Is it not a bit worrying that certain posters get up early to click on to a specific picture so that they can pleasure themselves?
Is it not a bit worrying that certain posters get up early to click on to a specific picture so that they can pleasure themselves? OSPREYSAINT
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8:25am Sat 24 Nov 12

RedArmy1 says...

Not only do we want to be WINNING our HOME Games ...

We want to Target AWAY Games and particularly those where SAINTS can dominate where the average league attendances are low ..

QPR - JOB DONE !!

READING AWAY .. Average 24,097
FULHAM AWAY .. Average 25,581
READING .. Average 24,097

NORWICH ...Average 26,615
STOKE ...Average 27,207

Also :

WIGAN - Average attendance 18,498
SWANSEA ... 20,299

Need to go to VILLA and take all 3 Points ... Average ... 35,756 and also take it to Spurs ,, 35,959 ... etc

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

LET'S GO AND GET THE POINTS vs newcastle and norwich in the next few days !!!

RED ARMY.

UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!!

p.s ssshhhhh to the skates !!
Not only do we want to be WINNING our HOME Games ... We want to Target AWAY Games and particularly those where SAINTS can dominate where the average league attendances are low .. QPR - JOB DONE !! READING AWAY .. Average 24,097 FULHAM AWAY .. Average 25,581 READING .. Average 24,097 NORWICH ...Average 26,615 STOKE ...Average 27,207 Also : WIGAN - Average attendance 18,498 SWANSEA ... 20,299 Need to go to VILLA and take all 3 Points ... Average ... 35,756 and also take it to Spurs ,, 35,959 ... etc WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LET'S GO AND GET THE POINTS vs newcastle and norwich in the next few days !!! RED ARMY. UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!! p.s ssshhhhh to the skates !! RedArmy1
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8:28am Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=73j30gJJh
S0 -
It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=73j30gJJh S0 - OSPREYSAINT
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8:33am Sat 24 Nov 12

GX Saint says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
Not only do we want to be WINNING our HOME Games ... We want to Target AWAY Games and particularly those where SAINTS can dominate where the average league attendances are low .. QPR - JOB DONE !! READING AWAY .. Average 24,097 FULHAM AWAY .. Average 25,581 READING .. Average 24,097 NORWICH ...Average 26,615 STOKE ...Average 27,207 Also : WIGAN - Average attendance 18,498 SWANSEA ... 20,299 Need to go to VILLA and take all 3 Points ... Average ... 35,756 and also take it to Spurs ,, 35,959 ... etc WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LET'S GO AND GET THE POINTS vs newcastle and norwich in the next few days !!! RED ARMY. UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!! p.s ssshhhhh to the skates !!
Reading looks like a 6 pointer
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: Not only do we want to be WINNING our HOME Games ... We want to Target AWAY Games and particularly those where SAINTS can dominate where the average league attendances are low .. QPR - JOB DONE !! READING AWAY .. Average 24,097 FULHAM AWAY .. Average 25,581 READING .. Average 24,097 NORWICH ...Average 26,615 STOKE ...Average 27,207 Also : WIGAN - Average attendance 18,498 SWANSEA ... 20,299 Need to go to VILLA and take all 3 Points ... Average ... 35,756 and also take it to Spurs ,, 35,959 ... etc WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LET'S GO AND GET THE POINTS vs newcastle and norwich in the next few days !!! RED ARMY. UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!! p.s ssshhhhh to the skates !![/p][/quote]Reading looks like a 6 pointer GX Saint
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8:34am Sat 24 Nov 12

hedge end bob says...

Vijay Baboolall Mauritius wrote:
Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.
Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth.

When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference .
[quote][p][bold]Vijay Baboolall Mauritius[/bold] wrote: Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.[/p][/quote]Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth. When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference . hedge end bob
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8:46am Sat 24 Nov 12

SaintPC says...

NA doesn't owe Pardew anything, he got the job on merit and as he said in the rest of the interview he owed Nicola Cortese thanks for the job, not Pardew - he worked very hard to get the job and has been successful in his own right ever since.

Let's not forget that there are plenty of rumours as to why Pardew was sacked, had he been doing the job properly, as his boss (NC) wanted then he wouldn't have been. So I don't think he even deserves a round of applause!

Get behind NA, and NC, and the Saints!!

3 Points!! Gutted I can't make it though....
NA doesn't owe Pardew anything, he got the job on merit and as he said in the rest of the interview he owed Nicola Cortese thanks for the job, not Pardew - he worked very hard to get the job and has been successful in his own right ever since. Let's not forget that there are plenty of rumours as to why Pardew was sacked, had he been doing the job properly, as his boss (NC) wanted then he wouldn't have been. So I don't think he even deserves a round of applause! Get behind NA, and NC, and the Saints!! 3 Points!! Gutted I can't make it though.... SaintPC
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9:01am Sat 24 Nov 12

Saintsayer II says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=73j30gJJh

S0 -
I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=73j30gJJh S0 -[/p][/quote]I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone Saintsayer II
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9:31am Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=73j30gJJh


S0 -
I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone
They are still there! Google "the downfall of portsmouth football club", it should bring it up.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=73j30gJJh S0 -[/p][/quote]I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone[/p][/quote]They are still there! Google "the downfall of portsmouth football club", it should bring it up. OSPREYSAINT
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9:34am Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=73j30gJJh


S0 -
I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone
If you cut and paste the URL, make sure that you close up the gaps.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It's time for a reminder on what has happened down the road see:- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=73j30gJJh S0 -[/p][/quote]I put this in my browser and it said this video is not available Does that mean THEY are gone[/p][/quote]If you cut and paste the URL, make sure that you close up the gaps. OSPREYSAINT
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9:57am Sat 24 Nov 12

Linesman says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
Nigel may well feel that he doesn't owe anything to Pardew, but I think we Saints fans do. Pardew kick started our journey back to the Premiership, signed most of the players who got us there, and gave us that great day out at Wembley. So I hope he gets a decent reception before the game on Sunday - though after kick-off all the chanting will be for Nigel !
I agree with you.

Nigel took over a good side and the momentum took it to the Premier League, but Nigel will have an extremely difficult job to keep it there without reinforcements in January.

If Nigel had taken over the dispirited team that Pardew did, I very much doubt that he would now be managing a Premier League team.
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: Nigel may well feel that he doesn't owe anything to Pardew, but I think we Saints fans do. Pardew kick started our journey back to the Premiership, signed most of the players who got us there, and gave us that great day out at Wembley. So I hope he gets a decent reception before the game on Sunday - though after kick-off all the chanting will be for Nigel ![/p][/quote]I agree with you. Nigel took over a good side and the momentum took it to the Premier League, but Nigel will have an extremely difficult job to keep it there without reinforcements in January. If Nigel had taken over the dispirited team that Pardew did, I very much doubt that he would now be managing a Premier League team. Linesman
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10:11am Sat 24 Nov 12

Velleity says...

SaintPC wrote:
NA doesn't owe Pardew anything, he got the job on merit and as he said in the rest of the interview he owed Nicola Cortese thanks for the job, not Pardew - he worked very hard to get the job and has been successful in his own right ever since.

Let's not forget that there are plenty of rumours as to why Pardew was sacked, had he been doing the job properly, as his boss (NC) wanted then he wouldn't have been. So I don't think he even deserves a round of applause!

Get behind NA, and NC, and the Saints!!

3 Points!! Gutted I can't make it though....
SaintPC, Sorry you can't make it. I'll put in an extra shout on your behalf if you'd like.
[quote][p][bold]SaintPC[/bold] wrote: NA doesn't owe Pardew anything, he got the job on merit and as he said in the rest of the interview he owed Nicola Cortese thanks for the job, not Pardew - he worked very hard to get the job and has been successful in his own right ever since. Let's not forget that there are plenty of rumours as to why Pardew was sacked, had he been doing the job properly, as his boss (NC) wanted then he wouldn't have been. So I don't think he even deserves a round of applause! Get behind NA, and NC, and the Saints!! 3 Points!! Gutted I can't make it though....[/p][/quote]SaintPC, Sorry you can't make it. I'll put in an extra shout on your behalf if you'd like. Velleity
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10:13am Sat 24 Nov 12

St.Yorkie says...

Really strange to think Adkins owes nothing - he did inherit the core of a very good team. Let's face it without the prolific Lambert we would have been lumbering in League 1 still!
Adkins did however instill a belief - something Pardew didn't manage to do in League 1 where we lost too many games under his tenure!
Adkins can't walk on water - but he has the freedom of St.Mary's as far as I am concerned. The Itchen is not that far away - I wonder if he should try?
Really strange to think Adkins owes nothing - he did inherit the core of a very good team. Let's face it without the prolific Lambert we would have been lumbering in League 1 still! Adkins did however instill a belief - something Pardew didn't manage to do in League 1 where we lost too many games under his tenure! Adkins can't walk on water - but he has the freedom of St.Mary's as far as I am concerned. The Itchen is not that far away - I wonder if he should try? St.Yorkie
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12:11pm Sat 24 Nov 12

redandy10 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Vijay Baboolall Mauritius wrote:
Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.
Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth.

When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference .
Very true, Dave Jones did build that squad, but in his last 18 months at the club he did nothing with that squad! Glenda came in and we played some very clever football with the same group of players. Hoddle had terrible man management skills, which have been well documented, but his tactical nous was brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vijay Baboolall Mauritius[/bold] wrote: Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.[/p][/quote]Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth. When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference .[/p][/quote]Very true, Dave Jones did build that squad, but in his last 18 months at the club he did nothing with that squad! Glenda came in and we played some very clever football with the same group of players. Hoddle had terrible man management skills, which have been well documented, but his tactical nous was brilliant! redandy10
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12:29pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Saint. says...

Saint. says...
12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12

While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told!

But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!!

Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!!

Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?”
Saint. says... 12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12 While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told! But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!! Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!! Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?” Saint.
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12:47pm Sat 24 Nov 12

City Saint says...

Oldfan wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Oldfan wrote:
So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints.

OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.
I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....?
Newcastle were 5th in the Premiership qualifying for Europe. And they have done well to progress beyond the group stages of that competiton.

As for NA avoiding relegation this season is all that is left (hopefully that task is not already beyond him).

Even so with so many players likely to be missing for Newcastle then they must be there for the taking this week end. If we are to survive it is vital that Saints take this opportunity for 3 points.
Lets hope we take these three points, I agree.

My view on your first point is that, in relative terms, I would say it's not an easy call between NA and AP as to who has performed best since 2010.

They've both achieved a great deal, in fact. The metaphor would use is AP and NA are now on the third lap around the circuit -- but while AP has been running on a top class running track on the first and second laps, NA spent the first lap slogging through a middy field in hobnail boots, and the second lap wading through molasses in doc martins, and he needed to come out ahead of both those races just to get to the fancy running track.

Sure, Newcastle under AP have done well, and good for them. But don't forget that while Newcastle spent the offseason fine-tuning their running kit, saints had to spend it trying to get ahold of a proper running kit in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]Oldfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldfan[/bold] wrote: So far and in relative terms AP has done a far better job with Newcastle then NA has at Saints. OK back to back promotions but neither were as champions so we were second best.[/p][/quote]I must have missed the year Newcastle were champions. Because your point, sir, is....?[/p][/quote]Newcastle were 5th in the Premiership qualifying for Europe. And they have done well to progress beyond the group stages of that competiton. As for NA avoiding relegation this season is all that is left (hopefully that task is not already beyond him). Even so with so many players likely to be missing for Newcastle then they must be there for the taking this week end. If we are to survive it is vital that Saints take this opportunity for 3 points.[/p][/quote]Lets hope we take these three points, I agree. My view on your first point is that, in relative terms, I would say it's not an easy call between NA and AP as to who has performed best since 2010. They've both achieved a great deal, in fact. The metaphor would use is AP and NA are now on the third lap around the circuit -- but while AP has been running on a top class running track on the first and second laps, NA spent the first lap slogging through a middy field in hobnail boots, and the second lap wading through molasses in doc martins, and he needed to come out ahead of both those races just to get to the fancy running track. Sure, Newcastle under AP have done well, and good for them. But don't forget that while Newcastle spent the offseason fine-tuning their running kit, saints had to spend it trying to get ahold of a proper running kit in the first place. City Saint
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12:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Tirau Dan says...

Pards got the club on it's feet from scouts to players and back room assts, but ultimately couldn't get them winning away on rough tracks, too many high direct balls to the box (toon are still doing it).. then stories of a Staplewood meltdown, a poor pre-season trip away, lack of fitness prep and drinking schools (still evident at Toon)...I don't believe half of it, but do believe where there is smoke there is at least hot air...

Nigel has done and is doing well.. He takes the flack and deserves credit.. he may never have even met Alan Pardew.

I would love us to win by a good margin.. if we lose of course we'll have all the bookies and the Echo running fuss over who's going to be the third manager sacked in the prem.. Pressure is one Pards as his boss wants a top 4 finish and he's a long way from that.

Glad I'm a Saints Supporter.. UTS COYR FOADP
Pards got the club on it's feet from scouts to players and back room assts, but ultimately couldn't get them winning away on rough tracks, too many high direct balls to the box (toon are still doing it).. then stories of a Staplewood meltdown, a poor pre-season trip away, lack of fitness prep and drinking schools (still evident at Toon)...I don't believe half of it, but do believe where there is smoke there is at least hot air... Nigel has done and is doing well.. He takes the flack and deserves credit.. he may never have even met Alan Pardew. I would love us to win by a good margin.. if we lose of course we'll have all the bookies and the Echo running fuss over who's going to be the third manager sacked in the prem.. Pressure is one Pards as his boss wants a top 4 finish and he's a long way from that. Glad I'm a Saints Supporter.. UTS COYR FOADP Tirau Dan
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12:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12

City Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Pards got the club on it's feet from scouts to players and back room assts, but ultimately couldn't get them winning away on rough tracks, too many high direct balls to the box (toon are still doing it).. then stories of a Staplewood meltdown, a poor pre-season trip away, lack of fitness prep and drinking schools (still evident at Toon)...I don't believe half of it, but do believe where there is smoke there is at least hot air...

Nigel has done and is doing well.. He takes the flack and deserves credit.. he may never have even met Alan Pardew.

I would love us to win by a good margin.. if we lose of course we'll have all the bookies and the Echo running fuss over who's going to be the third manager sacked in the prem.. Pressure is one Pards as his boss wants a top 4 finish and he's a long way from that.

Glad I'm a Saints Supporter.. UTS COYR FOADP
This is true. At least Adkins seems to enjoy all the crap that comes with being a premier league manager. It's been his ambition for a long time, clearly.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Pards got the club on it's feet from scouts to players and back room assts, but ultimately couldn't get them winning away on rough tracks, too many high direct balls to the box (toon are still doing it).. then stories of a Staplewood meltdown, a poor pre-season trip away, lack of fitness prep and drinking schools (still evident at Toon)...I don't believe half of it, but do believe where there is smoke there is at least hot air... Nigel has done and is doing well.. He takes the flack and deserves credit.. he may never have even met Alan Pardew. I would love us to win by a good margin.. if we lose of course we'll have all the bookies and the Echo running fuss over who's going to be the third manager sacked in the prem.. Pressure is one Pards as his boss wants a top 4 finish and he's a long way from that. Glad I'm a Saints Supporter.. UTS COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]This is true. At least Adkins seems to enjoy all the crap that comes with being a premier league manager. It's been his ambition for a long time, clearly. City Saint
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2:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Under 18's won 2 0 and Under 21's won 3 1 today, let's hope we complete the hat trick tomorrow.
Under 18's won 2 0 and Under 21's won 3 1 today, let's hope we complete the hat trick tomorrow. OSPREYSAINT
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2:19pm Sat 24 Nov 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Do the Echo understand that I do not buy their paper because of their campaign of maligning Nigel and Saints at every oppurtunity?
Do they think I am the only one?
Nigel may well have used those words in response to a question like" do you think you owe Pardew?" in that context the answer is reasonable.
Another question should be, "Does Pardew realise he should be grateful to Saints for the oppurtunity he was given".
Also, " does the Echo realise how many more papers it would sell if it started to support the local team?"
I support the Saints.
Do the Echo understand that I do not buy their paper because of their campaign of maligning Nigel and Saints at every oppurtunity? Do they think I am the only one? Nigel may well have used those words in response to a question like" do you think you owe Pardew?" in that context the answer is reasonable. Another question should be, "Does Pardew realise he should be grateful to Saints for the oppurtunity he was given". Also, " does the Echo realise how many more papers it would sell if it started to support the local team?" I support the Saints. dadofmy3sons
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2:36pm Sat 24 Nov 12

TEBOURBA says...

Some supporters are fickle and have very short memories.
When AP took over, the Saints were a disheartened, disjointed, rabble with a 10 point deduction.
He built the squad, took them to within spitting distance of the play offs and winning the JPT Final.
Nigel inherited the squad that AP built, including Rickie and with very few changes or additions won promotion.
Who's to say that had AP not been dumped by Cortese he couldn't have done the same as Nigel or even better? -- no one will ever know -- but one thing is certain --AP is a great manager who laid the firm foundations for Nigel to build on and the supporters should show AP their respect and appreciation tomorrow.
Some supporters are fickle and have very short memories. When AP took over, the Saints were a disheartened, disjointed, rabble with a 10 point deduction. He built the squad, took them to within spitting distance of the play offs and winning the JPT Final. Nigel inherited the squad that AP built, including Rickie and with very few changes or additions won promotion. Who's to say that had AP not been dumped by Cortese he couldn't have done the same as Nigel or even better? -- no one will ever know -- but one thing is certain --AP is a great manager who laid the firm foundations for Nigel to build on and the supporters should show AP their respect and appreciation tomorrow. TEBOURBA
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2:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Taoboy says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion.
Nicely put. This joined up thinking is why I see only good things happenning. Even if Saints should get relegated this season it will only be a short diversion to pick up the cup we so foolishly let Reading have last season. If we stay up we can build and consolidate the club as per Marcus originally envisaged and Nicolas and Nigel are implementing as best they Can. This sort of long term change for the better takes time and real teamwork. I wish for the best, I see no point in limiting the potential on or off the field.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i know pards is getting the credit for the change of mindset around the club, and yes he played his part, but i think most of the change was down to markus. we had years of relegations and just surviving and then nearly went under (13-14 dec tic toc) and then ML came in to save us. for me seeing his big beaming smile at sms and then wembley was a major factor in how i felt about the club. to see an owner so happy and excited about a club is a rare and wonderful thing. under the dark lord things got really bad, managers in and out all the time, and during that time i wanted us to win every game but expected us to lose most. for the last 2 years though i have wanted us to win and expected to win, except for this year in the prem when i expect to win some games but not against the top teams. thank you AP for your part in that but NA, NC and mainly ML are the reason our clubs whole demeanor has changed, well in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Nicely put. This joined up thinking is why I see only good things happenning. Even if Saints should get relegated this season it will only be a short diversion to pick up the cup we so foolishly let Reading have last season. If we stay up we can build and consolidate the club as per Marcus originally envisaged and Nicolas and Nigel are implementing as best they Can. This sort of long term change for the better takes time and real teamwork. I wish for the best, I see no point in limiting the potential on or off the field. Taoboy
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3:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Crossley Place Saint says...

Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words!

Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.” Crossley Place Saint
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3:17pm Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words!

Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
To be fair to NA he only responded to a badly posed question from a hack. It didn't matter how he responded to it, it would have been turned around.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”[/p][/quote]To be fair to NA he only responded to a badly posed question from a hack. It didn't matter how he responded to it, it would have been turned around. OSPREYSAINT
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3:19pm Sat 24 Nov 12

st1halo says...

Saint. wrote:
Saint. says...
12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12

While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told!

But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!!

Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!!

Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?”
Already told you on the other thread, Nigel, this is a good post now get back to SMS and prepare for tomorrow mate, you haven't got time to be posting on here, we'll be your 12th man buddy. Good luck

STID
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Saint. says... 12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12 While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told! But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!! Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!! Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?”[/p][/quote]Already told you on the other thread, Nigel, this is a good post now get back to SMS and prepare for tomorrow mate, you haven't got time to be posting on here, we'll be your 12th man buddy. Good luck STID st1halo
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3:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Some supporters are fickle and have very short memories.
When AP took over, the Saints were a disheartened, disjointed, rabble with a 10 point deduction.
He built the squad, took them to within spitting distance of the play offs and winning the JPT Final.
Nigel inherited the squad that AP built, including Rickie and with very few changes or additions won promotion.
Who's to say that had AP not been dumped by Cortese he couldn't have done the same as Nigel or even better? -- no one will ever know -- but one thing is certain --AP is a great manager who laid the firm foundations for Nigel to build on and the supporters should show AP their respect and appreciation tomorrow.
Are you saying that when AP was sacked that it was purely out of spite on NC's behalf? I think you are the one with a short memory. Can you not remember the disastrous start to the season, the shambles of the pre-season, have you not read that some of the staff had tendered their resignations because they couldn't work with Pardew? Personally I wish we had retained Nigel Pearson when we had the chance, I am sure he would have done the job as well as Pardew. As many have said, we thank AP for what he achieved, but it is history, nothing can be done about it, be thankful that NC brought in the one man that could do the job, and that is Nigel Adkins. I maintain that as has been said on a different thread, AP is a good manager, but has not yet achieved greatness.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Some supporters are fickle and have very short memories. When AP took over, the Saints were a disheartened, disjointed, rabble with a 10 point deduction. He built the squad, took them to within spitting distance of the play offs and winning the JPT Final. Nigel inherited the squad that AP built, including Rickie and with very few changes or additions won promotion. Who's to say that had AP not been dumped by Cortese he couldn't have done the same as Nigel or even better? -- no one will ever know -- but one thing is certain --AP is a great manager who laid the firm foundations for Nigel to build on and the supporters should show AP their respect and appreciation tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that when AP was sacked that it was purely out of spite on NC's behalf? I think you are the one with a short memory. Can you not remember the disastrous start to the season, the shambles of the pre-season, have you not read that some of the staff had tendered their resignations because they couldn't work with Pardew? Personally I wish we had retained Nigel Pearson when we had the chance, I am sure he would have done the job as well as Pardew. As many have said, we thank AP for what he achieved, but it is history, nothing can be done about it, be thankful that NC brought in the one man that could do the job, and that is Nigel Adkins. I maintain that as has been said on a different thread, AP is a good manager, but has not yet achieved greatness. OSPREYSAINT
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3:43pm Sat 24 Nov 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Different horses different courses.both have done their bit for the club and both will go down in history as being two of the clubs more competent managers.let's hope NA doesn't blot his copy book by getting us relegated.On a positive note 3 points tomorrow and we shall be only 3 points behind newcastle who could then themselves become relegation contenders.COYR 3 points tomorrow will be just the ticket.
Different horses different courses.both have done their bit for the club and both will go down in history as being two of the clubs more competent managers.let's hope NA doesn't blot his copy book by getting us relegated.On a positive note 3 points tomorrow and we shall be only 3 points behind newcastle who could then themselves become relegation contenders.COYR 3 points tomorrow will be just the ticket. CB FRY LIVES
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4:01pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words!

Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
Maybe he did and the DE chose not to print them. Who knows?
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”[/p][/quote]Maybe he did and the DE chose not to print them. Who knows? Strasbourg Saint
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4:14pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Vijay Baboolall Mauritius wrote:
Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.
Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth.

When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference .
Very true, Dave Jones did build that squad, but in his last 18 months at the club he did nothing with that squad! Glenda came in and we played some very clever football with the same group of players. Hoddle had terrible man management skills, which have been well documented, but his tactical nous was brilliant!
Re: Hoddle coming in and playing clever football with the same players, you're not far wrong - which probably makes sense of what NA is accredited as saying with regards to Pardew because it's quite similar.

For me, the difference between Hoddle and Pardew (and I don't know why he was sacked) is that I would happily welcome Pardew back but Hoddle (IMO) walked out without even saying goodbye to the players and paid Le Tiss the ultimate insult by promising (and then not obliging) him with a word or two in the Le Tiss testimonial programme. Git!

So, thanks for coming, building a team, winning a load of games and stabilising the club, Pards, so long and thanks for all the fish!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vijay Baboolall Mauritius[/bold] wrote: Sorry but Nigel is being being "big headed" there.[/p][/quote]Please explain your reasons to think this, as i feel he has onlystated the truth. When Glen Hoddle took over from Dave Jones he took the credit for a team built by Dave. Same difference .[/p][/quote]Very true, Dave Jones did build that squad, but in his last 18 months at the club he did nothing with that squad! Glenda came in and we played some very clever football with the same group of players. Hoddle had terrible man management skills, which have been well documented, but his tactical nous was brilliant![/p][/quote]Re: Hoddle coming in and playing clever football with the same players, you're not far wrong - which probably makes sense of what NA is accredited as saying with regards to Pardew because it's quite similar. For me, the difference between Hoddle and Pardew (and I don't know why he was sacked) is that I would happily welcome Pardew back but Hoddle (IMO) walked out without even saying goodbye to the players and paid Le Tiss the ultimate insult by promising (and then not obliging) him with a word or two in the Le Tiss testimonial programme. Git! So, thanks for coming, building a team, winning a load of games and stabilising the club, Pards, so long and thanks for all the fish! Strasbourg Saint
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4:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

hedge end bob says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words!

Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs.
What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager.

And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”[/p][/quote]Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs. What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager. And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh. hedge end bob
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5:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12

SaintMark says...

That's right Nigel, you owe him nothing. He got paid to do a job, it's not as if he done it for nothing!!

3 pts tomorrow please!
That's right Nigel, you owe him nothing. He got paid to do a job, it's not as if he done it for nothing!! 3 pts tomorrow please! SaintMark
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5:56pm Sat 24 Nov 12

sfc-4eva- says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words!

Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs.
What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager.

And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Nice quote.

Shhhhhhhhhh!!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”[/p][/quote]Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs. What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager. And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.[/p][/quote]Nice quote. Shhhhhhhhhh!! sfc-4eva-
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6:00pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Crossley Place Saint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”
Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs. What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager. And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
?? If you read what I wrote, I made a mild criticism of NA's comments, and then said I fear Cortese is planning to replace him with his compatriot Di Mattio. So that makes me "on his back" and "negative"? Sheesh.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from NA in view of the fact he inherited a ready made team from AP. He could easily have said a few polite words! Remember the Nige-Hughes "El Sackio" showdown was only a week ago. But events do seem to be unfolding with a certain inevitability, and I fear that our next bad result will see Cortese replace Nige with Di Matteo.”[/p][/quote]Why dont you and people like you just get off the back of our clubs manager. You people riding on the negetive bus with four flat tyres will never be able to keep up with the possitive bus. On this bus there is no room for the doom and gloom negetivity that the Daily Echo keep fueling their pages with, so the negetive passengers can take up their pens and start, the manager must win the next game or taxi for NIGEL ffs. What ever floats your boat, but at least pick up your pen and write praise when deserved. You might even find it fun ??. I just hope you will not be to disappointed when we stay up this season with Nigel still our manager. And Kent141 sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.[/p][/quote]?? If you read what I wrote, I made a mild criticism of NA's comments, and then said I fear Cortese is planning to replace him with his compatriot Di Mattio. So that makes me "on his back" and "negative"? Sheesh. Crossley Place Saint
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6:16pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Scarborosaint says...

No time for sentiment in football once you cross that line it's 11 v 11 , mono versus mono , I will tip my hat to you mr pardew cos you did start us on the road to recovery but your current team stand between us and 3 points COYR
No time for sentiment in football once you cross that line it's 11 v 11 , mono versus mono , I will tip my hat to you mr pardew cos you did start us on the road to recovery but your current team stand between us and 3 points COYR Scarborosaint
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11:40pm Sat 24 Nov 12

ventnorsaint says...

All managers inherit good or bad, that is fact of football life...ie Redknap going to QPR, see what I mean! Up theSaints.
All managers inherit good or bad, that is fact of football life...ie Redknap going to QPR, see what I mean! Up theSaints. ventnorsaint
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