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Adkins reflects on Saints loss
5:54pm Saturday 1st December 2012 in Saints News
By Adam Leitch, Chief Sports Writer
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Nigel Adkins said Saints stuck to the game plan at Liverpool – but just couldn’t get a goal to get something out of it.
Daniel Agger’s header two minutes before half time proved to be the difference between the sides but Saints never really created a chance.
“Obviously we’re disappointed in respect that we haven’t got anything from the game,” said Adkins.
“We’ve come away from home on a good run of form of late and I think it’s fair to say that Liverpool’s movement was very good and we couldn’t get a grip of the football.
“We conceded a goal just on half time and if we could have got to half time at 0-0 that would have been really pleasing.
“It was a free header in the penalty area that gave them a 1-0 lead.
“We’ve come away from home and adapted because we’re an attack minded side, we didn’t have anywhere near as much possession of the ball as we normally do and that’s probably credit to Liverpool in that respect.
“We had to adapt our shape to make sure we stayed in the game and play on the counter until the last 10-15 minutes and give ourselves an opportunity to press it and see if we can get something from it.”
Comments(84)
Norwegian Saint
says...
6:29pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Getting silly having to trawl through all that Poopey jealously rubbish.
Littleton-Saint
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6:29pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint
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6:33pm Sat 1 Dec 12
hedge end bob
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6:38pm Sat 1 Dec 12
promised land
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6:47pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Totally agree. But the skates are coming on this site, in a attempt to detract from their inpending doom.
The other thread is a joke tonight, maybe (although I hate to say it) we could do what the News-**** do and hide the replies.
Getting silly having to trawl through all that Poopey jealously rubbish.
redsnapper
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6:53pm Sat 1 Dec 12
7 goals so far and still 30 minutes to go, expect the same next Saturday!!
How many saves did Gazzanigga manage today, anyone know?
Norwegian Saint
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7:08pm Sat 1 Dec 12
ghk230473
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7:19pm Sat 1 Dec 12
1 step forward 2 back, 6 pointer next week against reading which we must win.
scooter75
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7:27pm Sat 1 Dec 12
14.12.12
SaintDon13
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7:35pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Scunthorpe United
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8:02pm Sat 1 Dec 12
saintmark1977
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9:09pm Sat 1 Dec 12
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
OSPREYSAINT
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9:26pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Ross123
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9:27pm Sat 1 Dec 12
saintmark1977 wrote:agree on this,
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
crap excuses,
we could of got something if the team actually turned up today, fed up of letting in goals easily,
lambert had no service all day long!
we need 6 points out of next 2 games!
adkins! sort it out!
i still think we need 2 centre halfs in the window.
ross
scooter75
says...
9:46pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Ross123 wrote:Ross
saintmark1977 wrote:agree on this,
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
crap excuses,
we could of got something if the team actually turned up today, fed up of letting in goals easily,
lambert had no service all day long!
we need 6 points out of next 2 games!
adkins! sort it out!
i still think we need 2 centre halfs in the window.
ross
You are on a pro nigel site, he can do no wrong, you are a sad skate.
14.12.12
Matt Allen
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9:46pm Sat 1 Dec 12
We looked scared and in awe of Liverpool, we didn't get the ball forward enough and their mid-field made ours look like Sunday league. Don't get me wrong, I love our team, but we just didn't turn up today; we were poor and the worst I've seen us this season.
Gazza made some decent saves, but his kicking out was shocking.
Anfield was very quite and OMG those bloody seats were shocking, you could only see if you laid down!
Let's make sure we get a result against Reading and Sunderland. COYR's
Ontario Saint
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10:38pm Sat 1 Dec 12
we struggled today and the confidence was not there as it had been against Newcastle.
I respect Nigel for not destroying Gazza"s confidence & I thought he had a reasonably good game and I'm sure he will do well for the club.
Lets face it he is only 20 years old and it was good he stayed calm and did what was expected of him
Things are certainly looking better than they did 3 weeks ago . The players do have the capability to move higher as long as they continue to believe in themselves and play the way they did against Newcastle,
Its still early days and there is some reasons to be optimistic
SFCSaint
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11:15pm Sat 1 Dec 12
Scunthorpe United wrote:cheers buddy! same to you and your relegation fight make sure you stay up at the expense of the skates!
I know that your boys have conceded quite a few but you have also scored rather more than other Clubs near you in the table. It's often the teams which don't score e.g. Q.P.R. which go down. Keep the faith and the best of luck!
Baddesley Bill
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11:28pm Sat 1 Dec 12
saintmark1977 wrote:It's easy to find a flaw....
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
...much harder to suggest a remedy....
....isn't it.
saintsupnorth
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12:50am Sun 2 Dec 12
saintsupnorth
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1:04am Sun 2 Dec 12
Scunthorpe United wrote:Well i am sure NA will be sending some Loans out to Scunny in Jan, NA was quoted in saying " Me and Brian (Laws) was not going to let there legacy just crumble away". So who knows. Would not be a bad thing to be associated with Scunthorpe Utd. Look at there record:
I know that your boys have conceded quite a few but you have also scored rather more than other Clubs near you in the table. It's often the teams which don't score e.g. Q.P.R. which go down. Keep the faith and the best of luck!
Nigel Adkins, Ray Clemence, Kevin Keegan, Gary Hooper. Billy Sharp and Jack Cork had there best ever spells there as well. Scunthorpe already looks like a Saints Feeder club!.
But good luck with the season, sure Brian Laws will get you back on track.
just kidding
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4:44am Sun 2 Dec 12
Rising_Son
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8:34am Sun 2 Dec 12
I would have liked to have seen Mayuka come on for Puncheon rather than Rodriguez. His speed might have made a difference as everyone slowed down towards the end of the match, but then again it might not have.
Still, on the bright side, in spite of all the pressure, we only let in one.
saintlysoul
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9:09am Sun 2 Dec 12
bluehants
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9:10am Sun 2 Dec 12
C,mon reading, a team that play well and deserve to be higher in the leaue, unlike your shambles
kent141
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9:35am Sun 2 Dec 12
The team played like they dident believe in themelves from the start for some reason and were lucky not to be at least 3 or 4 down at the break.
The game against Reading is crucial and a massive improvement is needed to get something from it.
Lionel P
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9:36am Sun 2 Dec 12
Saints just thumped the ball out of the penalty area up to the halfway line, and it kept coming straight back. You can't blame the defence entirely, you need a midfield that actually know a thing or two - the present lot are clueless.
batesieboy
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9:38am Sun 2 Dec 12
Mush On The Beach
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10:16am Sun 2 Dec 12
batesieboy wrote:It was a poor match with little quality, though Liverpool deserved the points for the extra effort they applied. I agree, every game can tell a different story and we now move on and hunt for the next points.
I watched the match, and Liverpool did not create much, and Saints created nothing at all. Gazzaniga was fine, and the goal was not his fault. Every game tells its own story, they are all different, and we will play differently against Sunderland and Reading.We can, and must win them both.
That was as poor a Liverpool team as I have seen in years against Saints (Suarez excluded), so sadly an away day opportunity squandered.
Still, we are all up for the challenge and our great support will help the team see us remain up where belong.
warrens 76
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11:03am Sun 2 Dec 12
...we either passed straight to them or took so long faffing about that they were always back behind the ball, had we played at a higher tempo and simply gone for it we could have scored.....
... we lost simply by respecting a long gone reputation, there was actually nothing to fear...shocker...
Losing is one thing but being afraid for no reason, it aint war ffs is disgraceful, dammit all we could out pass that team if we had not gone into panic mode, AGAIN!!!
ctsaint
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11:25am Sun 2 Dec 12
RedArmy1
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11:36am Sun 2 Dec 12
It's not a case of welcome to anfield - the whole place is a sh1thole and that's the only way they can win games of football at home.
LET'S GET READY TO TAKE ON reading AND WIN !!!
THE NEXT TWO GAMES ARE WINNABLE AND WE NEED ALL THE SAINTS FANS MAKING A DIFFERENCE !!
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.
THE PRIDE AND THE PASSION.
up saints
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11:38am Sun 2 Dec 12
abbiscuits
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11:44am Sun 2 Dec 12
JohnItaly
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11:51am Sun 2 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:It seems to me NA got his tactics wrong and again must question his substitutions. Saints have developed a reputation scoring goals so why not play to our strengths instead of a "game plan" to stifle perceived strenghs of the opposition. If for all games a "game plan" as to be devised dependant on the opponents by definition Saints have to adapt their game on 38 occasions. Why not play to our strengths every time and let the opposition worry about us?
Something positive was available from most games this season...yesterday was atrocious, our accuracy and speed of passing was dreadful...
...we either passed straight to them or took so long faffing about that they were always back behind the ball, had we played at a higher tempo and simply gone for it we could have scored.....
... we lost simply by respecting a long gone reputation, there was actually nothing to fear...shocker...
Losing is one thing but being afraid for no reason, it aint war ffs is disgraceful, dammit all we could out pass that team if we had not gone into panic mode, AGAIN!!!
RedArmy1
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11:51am Sun 2 Dec 12
abbiscuits wrote:It's a difficult call - changing the shape and personnel yesterday could have ended with Saints just adding to their minus goal difference.
Mr adkins should have put mayuka on around the 50th minute rather than wait for ages only to put j-rod on!!! We needed that injection of pace to create more chances and mayuka would have done that. Anyone agree with this?
Lots of Fans wanted to see FIGHT and Saints taking the game to put liverpooool on the back foot - but having one up front as a starting formation always meant we were going to struggle to get goals !!
NEXT WINNABLE AWAY GAME IS ON BOXING DAY !!! - Let's go up there on mass to one of the smaller stadiums and own the place - f*ck fulham ..
WE FIGHT FOR ALL 3 POINTS !!!
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED ARMY 2012. FIGHT AND WIN.
THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON !!!
Red n White
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12:02pm Sun 2 Dec 12
I thought we defended better yesterday with a lot of last ditch tackles. Fonte seems to have cut out the mistakes, and is starting to form a decent partnership with Yoshi
Southampton Dominance
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12:41pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Rising_Son wrote:A clinical dissemination of yesterdays match, à la Delia Smith! Fascinating stuff, Rising!
It was a disappointing match. Liverpool crowded out the midfield, and we weren't able to create any time or space. The consequence was that passes were either inaccurate or intercepted, and the attack never really got going. Clearances from the back also usually got intercepted and allowed them to keep the pressure on our defence.
I would have liked to have seen Mayuka come on for Puncheon rather than Rodriguez. His speed might have made a difference as everyone slowed down towards the end of the match, but then again it might not have.
Still, on the bright side, in spite of all the pressure, we only let in one.
Southampton Dominance
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12:43pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Yes Mush, we're all up for the challenge! You would make a very good cheerleader! Ra ra blah blah!
batesieboy wrote:It was a poor match with little quality, though Liverpool deserved the points for the extra effort they applied. I agree, every game can tell a different story and we now move on and hunt for the next points.
I watched the match, and Liverpool did not create much, and Saints created nothing at all. Gazzaniga was fine, and the goal was not his fault. Every game tells its own story, they are all different, and we will play differently against Sunderland and Reading.We can, and must win them both.
That was as poor a Liverpool team as I have seen in years against Saints (Suarez excluded), so sadly an away day opportunity squandered.
Still, we are all up for the challenge and our great support will help the team see us remain up where belong.
Ross123
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12:45pm Sun 2 Dec 12
scooter75 wrote:scooter! you always wana pick a fight with everyone on here!
Ross123 wrote:Ross
saintmark1977 wrote:agree on this,
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
crap excuses,
we could of got something if the team actually turned up today, fed up of letting in goals easily,
lambert had no service all day long!
we need 6 points out of next 2 games!
adkins! sort it out!
i still think we need 2 centre halfs in the window.
ross
You are on a pro nigel site, he can do no wrong, you are a sad skate.
14.12.12
you must be a pompey fan
Southampton Dominance
says...
12:48pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Southampton Dominance wrote:Tell me, were you actually waving your pom·poms around, when you delivered that inspirational pep talk?
Mush On The Beach wrote:Yes Mush, we're all up for the challenge! You would make a very good cheerleader! Ra ra blah blah!
batesieboy wrote:It was a poor match with little quality, though Liverpool deserved the points for the extra effort they applied. I agree, every game can tell a different story and we now move on and hunt for the next points.
I watched the match, and Liverpool did not create much, and Saints created nothing at all. Gazzaniga was fine, and the goal was not his fault. Every game tells its own story, they are all different, and we will play differently against Sunderland and Reading.We can, and must win them both.
That was as poor a Liverpool team as I have seen in years against Saints (Suarez excluded), so sadly an away day opportunity squandered.
Still, we are all up for the challenge and our great support will help the team see us remain up where belong.
Jameski
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12:57pm Sun 2 Dec 12
abbiscuits wrote:Absolutely. It's time mayuka got his chance. The kid got the golden boot in the African cup of nations so he can at least have a chance to play for us.
Mr adkins should have put mayuka on around the 50th minute rather than wait for ages only to put j-rod on!!! We needed that injection of pace to create more chances and mayuka would have done that. Anyone agree with this?
Also I think Nigel is scared to make early substitutions since the Man U game?
toutlaw
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1:18pm Sun 2 Dec 12
toutlaw
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1:20pm Sun 2 Dec 12
saintlysoul
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1:21pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Lionel P wrote:I agree one hundred per cent very good comment. The only person who can't see this is NA!!!!!!
Until Saints acquire some ball-skills and speed, the midfield particularly, they have no chance of remaining in the Premiership. I only saw the first half of yesterday's game, but Adkins is kidding himself if he thinks a 1-0 scoreline was a fair reflection of that. Liverpool could have had four or more.
Saints just thumped the ball out of the penalty area up to the halfway line, and it kept coming straight back. You can't blame the defence entirely, you need a midfield that actually know a thing or two - the present lot are clueless.
saintlysoul
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1:26pm Sun 2 Dec 12
up saints wrote:Here here!!!!!!!!
need to get a grip in midfield that where games are won and lost i would of put jwp on at half time.agree with above reading and sunderland must win games
RedArmy1
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1:34pm Sun 2 Dec 12
saintlysoul wrote:Next 3 games are WINNABLE !!!
up saints wrote:Here here!!!!!!!!
need to get a grip in midfield that where games are won and lost i would of put jwp on at half time.agree with above reading and sunderland must win games
LET'S GET THE MAXIMUM POINTS.
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRMY.
UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE GO !
st1halo
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1:44pm Sun 2 Dec 12
JohnItaly wrote:If this was a penalty shoot out then you just field your strongest goalscorers but it's not. I'ts like a game of chess and the strategy has to be different for every game. Nigel thinks playing attacking football is the answer but if you think you will steam roller other teams in this league you are badly mistaken and naive. Especially considering some of the finest footballers in the world in all positions are what we are playing against . Your strengths become your weaknesses if you play them long enough. Nigel must use the strenghts of different players and change tactics ad this is where I worry about him.
warrens 76 wrote:It seems to me NA got his tactics wrong and again must question his substitutions. Saints have developed a reputation scoring goals so why not play to our strengths instead of a "game plan" to stifle perceived strenghs of the opposition. If for all games a "game plan" as to be devised dependant on the opponents by definition Saints have to adapt their game on 38 occasions. Why not play to our strengths every time and let the opposition worry about us?
Something positive was available from most games this season...yesterday was atrocious, our accuracy and speed of passing was dreadful...
...we either passed straight to them or took so long faffing about that they were always back behind the ball, had we played at a higher tempo and simply gone for it we could have scored.....
... we lost simply by respecting a long gone reputation, there was actually nothing to fear...shocker...
Losing is one thing but being afraid for no reason, it aint war ffs is disgraceful, dammit all we could out pass that team if we had not gone into panic mode, AGAIN!!!
Example. Lpool have a very strong midfield (Gerrard ffs!!) so you replace style with steel. Imo Gaston should have been rested (particularly after Wednesday) and JWP should have played as he is like a terrier and fights for the ball reducing their ability to get the ball forward.
Our defence did well and this is the one area where you need consistency. They were up against pace and stood off allowing for that,played narrow o force down the wings but llikewise we needed pace at the front to stop their defence moving out and stretch the field.
Some may say hindsight is a wonderful thing but sorry, some things are logical. I predicted if we played the same team against Norwich we would be tired second half and we were. Fielding the same team again was madness!
STID
RedArmy1
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1:48pm Sun 2 Dec 12
WE MUST HAVE MORE FIGHT IN AWAY GAMES and start picking up valuable points.
When we don't compete - then everyone is disappointed - but no-one wants a repeat of ars*nil away and We are looking forward to beating them at ST MARY'S.
For those who can't get tickets for the games then watch on Stream - THE SWAN WOOLSTON.
WE ARE RED ARMY. COYR
hedge end bob
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1:51pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Ross123 wrote:He's KENT141.
scooter75 wrote:scooter! you always wana pick a fight with everyone on here!
Ross123 wrote:Ross
saintmark1977 wrote:agree on this,
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
crap excuses,
we could of got something if the team actually turned up today, fed up of letting in goals easily,
lambert had no service all day long!
we need 6 points out of next 2 games!
adkins! sort it out!
i still think we need 2 centre halfs in the window.
ross
You are on a pro nigel site, he can do no wrong, you are a sad skate.
14.12.12
you must be a pompey fan
Now he will come backand insult me, who cares.
ghk230473
says...
1:56pm Sun 2 Dec 12
More Glory
says...
2:08pm Sun 2 Dec 12
hedge end bob wrote:Bob, Well done here. You are really developing into a much nicer human being recently. No outbursts at people, and name calling. I am also astonished at your spelling and grammar. The only mistake in your sentence is the "pcking up points" parts - so 9/10. Well done - Respect - and I think you are completely right about the home games. 4 or 6 points required, and anything less and you could be in trouble.
We now have to win our next two home games to stay in touch. We must start pcking up points soon, we can not say it is not our best team when we have a full squad to pick from. Boy this league is tough.
Ross123
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2:10pm Sun 2 Dec 12
hedge end bob wrote:lol,
Ross123 wrote:He's KENT141.
scooter75 wrote:scooter! you always wana pick a fight with everyone on here!
Ross123 wrote:Ross
saintmark1977 wrote:agree on this,
I like Mr Adkins and do not want to see him replaced.
However,is there just a chance that he could say something after a game that is not bleedingly obvious?
At present he could save himself time and effort and get back home quicker simply by saying "If your Aunt had had balls she would have been your Uncle !
To me his after match comments are becomming increasingly tedious and ever more meaningless.
Am I alone in thinking this?
crap excuses,
we could of got something if the team actually turned up today, fed up of letting in goals easily,
lambert had no service all day long!
we need 6 points out of next 2 games!
adkins! sort it out!
i still think we need 2 centre halfs in the window.
ross
You are on a pro nigel site, he can do no wrong, you are a sad skate.
14.12.12
you must be a pompey fan
Now he will come backand insult me, who cares.
looking foward to 6 points from next 2 matches,
wont be easy, but they will need the same energy from the newcastle and qpr game if we are going to get anything,
very important games that could get us up to midtable!
heres hoping!
ps, 2 games live on sky in jan! bonus!
rocketone
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2:32pm Sun 2 Dec 12
The Prem is very hard league and we wanted to get here, I would like us to stay too. But not at any cost.
Nice to see good football, and I hope we can add a little steel to it soon.
Support the Saints
saintkenny
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2:33pm Sun 2 Dec 12
bluehants wrote:yes were a shambles aint we 61 million in debt struggling to get are few fans to buy the club .but its near the end now .why did we cheat status we have been a shables for ages now 8 defeats in the third tier 10 points to come off ,if we survive were heading for league 2 ,what a shambles we are ,agree
Ahhhhhhhhh normal service resumes,
C,mon reading, a team that play well and deserve to be higher in the leaue, unlike your shambles
hedge end bob
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2:54pm Sun 2 Dec 12
More Glory wrote:Do you think i am interested in what a skunt thinks.
hedge end bob wrote:Bob, Well done here. You are really developing into a much nicer human being recently. No outbursts at people, and name calling. I am also astonished at your spelling and grammar. The only mistake in your sentence is the "pcking up points" parts - so 9/10. Well done - Respect - and I think you are completely right about the home games. 4 or 6 points required, and anything less and you could be in trouble.
We now have to win our next two home games to stay in touch. We must start pcking up points soon, we can not say it is not our best team when we have a full squad to pick from. Boy this league is tough.
SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
More Glory
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3:00pm Sun 2 Dec 12
hedge end bob wrote:Anything outside your village should interest you Bob. Respect still though.
More Glory wrote:Do you think i am interested in what a skunt thinks. SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhedge end bob wrote: We now have to win our next two home games to stay in touch. We must start pcking up points soon, we can not say it is not our best team when we have a full squad to pick from. Boy this league is tough.Bob, Well done here. You are really developing into a much nicer human being recently. No outbursts at people, and name calling. I am also astonished at your spelling and grammar. The only mistake in your sentence is the "pcking up points" parts - so 9/10. Well done - Respect - and I think you are completely right about the home games. 4 or 6 points required, and anything less and you could be in trouble.
hedge end bob
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3:02pm Sun 2 Dec 12
hedge end bob wrote:Kenty boy, push the More Glory button by mistake. Can understand it's hard with webbed fingers.
More Glory wrote:Do you think i am interested in what a skunt thinks.
hedge end bob wrote:Bob, Well done here. You are really developing into a much nicer human being recently. No outbursts at people, and name calling. I am also astonished at your spelling and grammar. The only mistake in your sentence is the "pcking up points" parts - so 9/10. Well done - Respect - and I think you are completely right about the home games. 4 or 6 points required, and anything less and you could be in trouble.
We now have to win our next two home games to stay in touch. We must start pcking up points soon, we can not say it is not our best team when we have a full squad to pick from. Boy this league is tough.
SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
READY FOR THE INSULTS, GOOD FOR A LAUGH.
mack chinnon
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3:14pm Sun 2 Dec 12
rocketone
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3:32pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Then I realised that there are no Pompey fans.
The sad posters on here are merely wannabee WUMs.
Shame the bluephew did not have any interest in the cup draw, eh?
14/12 . . . day of deliverance
devonsaint2
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3:44pm Sun 2 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:I went as I always try to do.
Can anyone who went to the game give their opinion, was it all Liverpool as suggested?
Liverpool could have won by 3 or 4 if the luck had been with them ( hit the post & bar and some quite lucky defending by us) BUT that doesn't mean to say we didn't try. Morgan & Corky ran their socks off.
The main problem for me is that NA ( who I really like and support ) is short of ideas on changing the tactics. I think also his back up team are just as lacking.
Yesterday Liverppol packed the midfield. Only Suarez in attack with Sterling helping. They had 4 in midfield to our 2 - 3 ( Morgan, Cork, Lalanna ). Gaston does not help much in midfield and yesterday Punch was poor. After 20 mins the match was crying our for JWP or Davis. If we matched them in midfield we would have had more of the ball. Whenever we got the ball ( 0nly 35% possession ) we could not find anyone. I think NA's positive outlook on life reflects in his away teams. In my opinion at some of these ' top ' teams we should start more cautiously. Start with an extra midfielder ( not a Gaston or Punch ) and change it in the 2nd half as legs get tired and spaces open up.
1.0 looks ok on paper yesterday, but we never really looked liked scoring because we got so little of the ball. I cannot fault NA's approach at home ( go for goals & a win ), but at least change the tactics away. 2 or 3 draws away would be excellent against the better teams.
14.12.12
RedArmy1
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3:52pm Sun 2 Dec 12
devonsaint2 wrote:It is difficult for Nigel as if he does not play his best players like at leeds - and his back up players are very disappointing.
ghk230473 wrote:I went as I always try to do.
Can anyone who went to the game give their opinion, was it all Liverpool as suggested?
Liverpool could have won by 3 or 4 if the luck had been with them ( hit the post & bar and some quite lucky defending by us) BUT that doesn't mean to say we didn't try. Morgan & Corky ran their socks off.
The main problem for me is that NA ( who I really like and support ) is short of ideas on changing the tactics. I think also his back up team are just as lacking.
Yesterday Liverppol packed the midfield. Only Suarez in attack with Sterling helping. They had 4 in midfield to our 2 - 3 ( Morgan, Cork, Lalanna ). Gaston does not help much in midfield and yesterday Punch was poor. After 20 mins the match was crying our for JWP or Davis. If we matched them in midfield we would have had more of the ball. Whenever we got the ball ( 0nly 35% possession ) we could not find anyone. I think NA's positive outlook on life reflects in his away teams. In my opinion at some of these ' top ' teams we should start more cautiously. Start with an extra midfielder ( not a Gaston or Punch ) and change it in the 2nd half as legs get tired and spaces open up.
1.0 looks ok on paper yesterday, but we never really looked liked scoring because we got so little of the ball. I cannot fault NA's approach at home ( go for goals & a win ), but at least change the tactics away. 2 or 3 draws away would be excellent against the better teams.
14.12.12
Sitting back at liverpooooool meant a green light for them to have wave after wave after attacks.
WE MUST DO BETTER !!!
The way ahead is to stay in the Premiership and continue to improve year on year with better players.
We have chelskum in the FA CUP - Saints Fans will want a WIN !!!
RED ARMY. WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH. COYR.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:03pm Sun 2 Dec 12
shongwe06
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5:32pm Sun 2 Dec 12
RedArmy1
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6:07pm Sun 2 Dec 12
WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
RED ARMY. UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE GO !!
ghk230473
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6:35pm Sun 2 Dec 12
devonsaint2 wrote:Fans I've spoken to saying the same, I do agree about Adkins.
ghk230473 wrote:I went as I always try to do.
Can anyone who went to the game give their opinion, was it all Liverpool as suggested?
Liverpool could have won by 3 or 4 if the luck had been with them ( hit the post & bar and some quite lucky defending by us) BUT that doesn't mean to say we didn't try. Morgan & Corky ran their socks off.
The main problem for me is that NA ( who I really like and support ) is short of ideas on changing the tactics. I think also his back up team are just as lacking.
Yesterday Liverppol packed the midfield. Only Suarez in attack with Sterling helping. They had 4 in midfield to our 2 - 3 ( Morgan, Cork, Lalanna ). Gaston does not help much in midfield and yesterday Punch was poor. After 20 mins the match was crying our for JWP or Davis. If we matched them in midfield we would have had more of the ball. Whenever we got the ball ( 0nly 35% possession ) we could not find anyone. I think NA's positive outlook on life reflects in his away teams. In my opinion at some of these ' top ' teams we should start more cautiously. Start with an extra midfielder ( not a Gaston or Punch ) and change it in the 2nd half as legs get tired and spaces open up.
1.0 looks ok on paper yesterday, but we never really looked liked scoring because we got so little of the ball. I cannot fault NA's approach at home ( go for goals & a win ), but at least change the tactics away. 2 or 3 draws away would be excellent against the better teams.
14.12.12
It is hard for him as it is a tough league but in games I have watched both this and last season, he has IMO left it late or made questionable decisions.
Against man u, lambert was keeping rio and vidic busy even though he wasn't doing much. When he was replaced rio pushed forward and had a say in their goal. Against Norwich his movement was non existent and he ventured out to the wings, I would have taken gaston off for mayaka to give him some one to hit the ball to.
I do think the squads quality needs to be improved and there are a lot of players that cannot be trusted to play..... Fox, Davis, boruc, guly and players on loan should be moved on and replaced with quality
RedArmy1
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6:56pm Sun 2 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:The Squad does need to be continually improved - but have we got the money to get more players in ?
devonsaint2 wrote:Fans I've spoken to saying the same, I do agree about Adkins.
ghk230473 wrote:I went as I always try to do.
Can anyone who went to the game give their opinion, was it all Liverpool as suggested?
Liverpool could have won by 3 or 4 if the luck had been with them ( hit the post & bar and some quite lucky defending by us) BUT that doesn't mean to say we didn't try. Morgan & Corky ran their socks off.
The main problem for me is that NA ( who I really like and support ) is short of ideas on changing the tactics. I think also his back up team are just as lacking.
Yesterday Liverppol packed the midfield. Only Suarez in attack with Sterling helping. They had 4 in midfield to our 2 - 3 ( Morgan, Cork, Lalanna ). Gaston does not help much in midfield and yesterday Punch was poor. After 20 mins the match was crying our for JWP or Davis. If we matched them in midfield we would have had more of the ball. Whenever we got the ball ( 0nly 35% possession ) we could not find anyone. I think NA's positive outlook on life reflects in his away teams. In my opinion at some of these ' top ' teams we should start more cautiously. Start with an extra midfielder ( not a Gaston or Punch ) and change it in the 2nd half as legs get tired and spaces open up.
1.0 looks ok on paper yesterday, but we never really looked liked scoring because we got so little of the ball. I cannot fault NA's approach at home ( go for goals & a win ), but at least change the tactics away. 2 or 3 draws away would be excellent against the better teams.
14.12.12
It is hard for him as it is a tough league but in games I have watched both this and last season, he has IMO left it late or made questionable decisions.
Against man u, lambert was keeping rio and vidic busy even though he wasn't doing much. When he was replaced rio pushed forward and had a say in their goal. Against Norwich his movement was non existent and he ventured out to the wings, I would have taken gaston off for mayaka to give him some one to hit the ball to.
I do think the squads quality needs to be improved and there are a lot of players that cannot be trusted to play..... Fox, Davis, boruc, guly and players on loan should be moved on and replaced with quality
Our second string players were given a drubbing at leeds - so we either put out our strongest Team in the Cup or go out with a whimper like at leeds and doing that at home with really **** the fans off BIG TIME !!
Better to WIN against the blue chel.. skum and send them packing ..
and then continue the unbeaten run to WIN in the league .... looking forward to villa AWAY.
Everyone knows that 4-5-1 and the resulting performance yesterday was nowhere near good enough.
One of the problems is that when we pass the ball - our players are isolated and easily dispossessed with the gathering liverpooooool pack. We need to have a triangle so that we can pass our way our of midfield and still have plenty to improve on.
WINNING IS EVERYTHING.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED ARMY RULE THE SOUTH.
Stroppy_gramps
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7:00pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Until then the best option is to get to the games and sing, and chant and shout supporting the team
RedArmy1
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7:22pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Stroppy_gramps wrote:You're right !!
no point crying about it now, theres really nothing we can do until the January window opens.
Until then the best option is to get to the games and sing, and chant and shout supporting the team
The Players react to the Crowd.
Remember palace and QPR.
RED ARMY - THE PRIDE AND THE PASSION !!
More Glory
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7:27pm Sun 2 Dec 12
RedArmy1 wrote:Too true, hence the solitary trophy for you guys. I think you are finally getting it though.
Stroppy_gramps wrote: no point crying about it now, theres really nothing we can do until the January window opens. Until then the best option is to get to the games and sing, and chant and shout supporting the teamYou're right !! The Players react to the Crowd. Remember palace and QPR. RED ARMY - THE PRIDE AND THE PASSION !!
RedArmy1
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7:30pm Sun 2 Dec 12
More Glory wrote:ssssssshhhhhhhhh !!!
RedArmy1 wrote:Too true, hence the solitary trophy for you guys. I think you are finally getting it though.
Stroppy_gramps wrote: no point crying about it now, theres really nothing we can do until the January window opens. Until then the best option is to get to the games and sing, and chant and shout supporting the teamYou're right !! The Players react to the Crowd. Remember palace and QPR. RED ARMY - THE PRIDE AND THE PASSION !!
RED ARMY RULE THE SOUTH !!!
Baddesley Bill
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7:38pm Sun 2 Dec 12
...the tumbleweed site is totally dead...
...little support...little hope.
14.12.12
Block 34
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8:13pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Looking forward to the next 2 !!
ghk230473
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8:47pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Block 34 wrote:It's not the result but the performance. We beat an injury hit tired Newcastle convincingly, Norwich draw doesn't appear too bad on reflection of their result today.
always disappointing to lose, but 1-0 isn't a bad result at Anfield. Well done lads. Wouldn't be surprised i the 'pool came in for SRL in January!
Looking forward to the next 2 !!
Liverpool in for lambert? Hmmmm I can't see it happening!
TEBOURBA
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9:09pm Sun 2 Dec 12
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
RedArmy1
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9:24pm Sun 2 Dec 12
TEBOURBA wrote:It has been a steep learning curve for all those at SFC.
The PL is tough, clearly shown by the fact that top class managers such as Pardew, O'Neil and Hughes are struggling or have lost their job!
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
The SAINTS FANS have been magnificent throughout with QPR AWAY as a highlight chanting through the Streets after a famous WIN.
(QPR Home Supporters Pub outside the ground - don't make me laugh !! )
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Sun 2 Dec 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Why do you post your nonsense and then not bother to read the replies? If you want to know if Solent Interiors Systems have been paid, ring them on 02392554400 and ask them, no one else is at all bothered.
The PL is tough, clearly shown by the fact that top class managers such as Pardew, O'Neil and Hughes are struggling or have lost their job!
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
Baddesley Bill
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9:45pm Sun 2 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Osprey...I think you and me both know that this poster is more interested in getting a response rather than having a debate.
TEBOURBA wrote:Why do you post your nonsense and then not bother to read the replies? If you want to know if Solent Interiors Systems have been paid, ring them on 02392554400 and ask them, no one else is at all bothered.
The PL is tough, clearly shown by the fact that top class managers such as Pardew, O'Neil and Hughes are struggling or have lost their job!
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
We should leave him be imo.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:09pm Sun 2 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:I guess so, if it is a response he is after he never shows it, as he never responds to reasoned argument, total waste of space.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Osprey...I think you and me both know that this poster is more interested in getting a response rather than having a debate.
TEBOURBA wrote:Why do you post your nonsense and then not bother to read the replies? If you want to know if Solent Interiors Systems have been paid, ring them on 02392554400 and ask them, no one else is at all bothered.
The PL is tough, clearly shown by the fact that top class managers such as Pardew, O'Neil and Hughes are struggling or have lost their job!
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
We should leave him be imo.
angus mc coatup
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10:16pm Sun 2 Dec 12
TEBOURBA wrote:I'm sure I've read this somewhere before..............
The PL is tough, clearly shown by the fact that top class managers such as Pardew, O'Neil and Hughes are struggling or have lost their job!
NA could still become the best manager Saints have ever had.
He is suffering from his and Cortese's inexperienced decisions, made in the transfer market last summer.
IMO squandering £19m on Gaston and JR was a complete waste of money.
Gaston has been crocked and is still not match fit, he shows moments of brilliance but then drifts out of the game, he is a bit like Stan Bowles and Rodney Marsh of old -- good to watch but his overall contribution to the team not game changing.
For £12m, I expect to see the sort of contribution the likes of Paine,MLT,Channon or Keegan made to the Saints.
JR is just a total waste of money no better than Billy Sharpe.
£19m spent wisely could have bought 4 or 5 good experienced players, (including a keeper) which with the 4 or 5 Saints stalwarts from the past two seasons and those coming through from the Academy would have built a great team.
Nigel now has to struggle on to the New Year carrying the mistakes he has made, when it will become a case of bringing in the new and slinging out the old.
Hopefully by Christmas, Saints will have mustered enough points for the newcomers to build on and save us from the drop.
The likes of LMcM and Cloughie would have spent £19m a lot more wisely than Nigel and his boss.
Maybe, if Cortese had appointed a PL experienced No2 to Nigel at the end of last season, withhis advice and experience, the transfer money would have been better spent and Saints would now be where West Ham are in the league.
Just think of that !!--- Happy Clappers wouldn't have pray for every other team around us in the league to lose!
P.S. Does anyone know if Solent Interiors have been paid their £60k due 6 months ago--the legality of their claim rupheld by not just one but two court orders.
..let me think
oh yea......on here, every feckin day !.
mind you, we should be happy that a skate, worries so much about the financial wellfare of our club.
you keep worrying tebourba.
mean while us happy clappers can carry on happy clapping.
SaintinCanada
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11:54pm Sun 2 Dec 12
"I like to spout off, but I don't like logical reponses. I just want attention. I would like to be thought of as an intellectual person who garners readership, a person of insight, intelligent forethought, and ultimately proven to be right.
I tried posting as "thickscum" to test some of my avid readers to test their abilities....and they did well!
Unfortunately I have a rather small willy.
Could Solent Interiors really help me?
SaintinCanada
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12:12am Mon 3 Dec 12
Nice to see that your 33Million spout has been lowered to19Million.
Now......if you can stay with reality....
.....you can be corrected HERE FIRST
Sistermum
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1:16pm Mon 3 Dec 12





Costa Baz says...
6:14pm Sat 1 Dec 12
If you are going to sit back, would it have been better to have put a quick striker up front for the "out" ball??? Mayuka for example?