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Summary

  • Saints stay 17th after draw with Fulham
  • Nigel Adkins' side now one point above drop zone
  • Dimitar Berbatov gave Fulham early lead
  • Rickie Lambert equalised with a late penalty

5:36pm

That result keeps Saints 17th, but moves them a point clear of the relegation zone, after Wigan lost at Everton. We will have some reaction for you on the website later and a full report and quotes in tomorrow's Daily Echo.

4:53pm

FULL-TIME: Fulham 1 Saints 1

4:47pm

GOAL Fulham 1 Saints 1 (Rickie Lambert pen 85): Chris Baird is penalised for handlin a corner in the box, with referee Phil Dowd pointing to the spot. Rickie Lambert slams the penalty to Mark Schwarzer's right. The Fulham keeper gets to the ball, but is beaten by the sheer power of it.

4:41pm

CHANCE (78 mins): Shaw's cross from the left finds Lambert, who hits a stinging left-foot volley that flashes just over the bar.

4:26pm

CHANCE (66 mins): Dejgah flashes a low shot across the face of goal, in what is one of the very few chances created by either side in a rather dismal second-half.

4:07pm

CHANCE (47 mins): Puncheon hits a left foot shot from the edge of the area across goal, but it skids just wide of the far post.

3:46pm

HALF-TIME: Fulham 1 Saints 0

3:38pm

CHANCE (35 mins): The game has descended into a quiet spell. Morgan Schneiderlin did have a half-chance, with a low shot from 20 yards, but he pulled it well wide of the post.

3:23pm

CHANCE (20 mins): A rare break forward for Saints. The ball falls to Cork 25 yards out, but his well-hit low shot is held by Schwarzer in the Fulham goal.

3:19pm

CHANCE (16 mins): Rodallega plays Kacanikilc down the left. His cross picks out Berbatov on the penalty spot, but he puts his header wide.

3:11pm

GOAL: Fulham 1 Saints 0 (Berbatov 8): Riether overlaps down the right side and delivers a low cross that flashes across the six-yard box. Davis dives down to it, but spills it in the wet conditions, with Berbatov gratefully readjusting his body and sweeping the ball home. The Fulham forward then reveals a T-shirt that reads "Keep calm and pass me the ball". He's booked for it, but for Fulham it's hard to argue against that advice.

3:06pm

CHANCE (3 mins): Fulham break down the right with Rodallega, who squares the ball to Sidwell on the edge of the area in space, but his low shot is just wide of the post.

2:56pm

The teams are on their way out here at Craven Cottage. Kick-off just a few moments away. We will have updates here for you throughout the match.

2:21pm

 

In terms of Christmas, I think the games we've got are winnable. We go into those games fully intending to set our stall out so we can win those games. That's what we'll ask of ourselves. Who knows if Dimitar Berbatov is the man to watch out for against Fulham. I am not sure if he has scored many this season, has he? He is a top class player but he is not their only player. He didn't play against us down here and we conceded two goals so they've got quality all over the pitch. They wouldn't have been in the Premier League for this amount of time if they weren't quality so we will obviously pay them respect, but it is about turning up on the day, performing and taking the three points.

Saints keeper Kelvin Davis

2:14pm

Just one change for Saints, which comes as no surprise. Emmanuel Mayuka is dropped to the bench after a disappointing display against Sunderland, with Steven Davis replacing him in the starting line-up.

2:13pm

THE LINE-UPS:

SAINTS: K Davis, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, S Davis, Puncheon, Ramirez, Lambert.

Subs: Boruc, Hooiveld, Richardson, Ward-Prowse, Guly, Mayuka, Rodriguez.

FULHAM: Schwarzer, Riether, Hangeland, Senderos, Riise, Dejagah, Sidwell, Baird, Kacaniklic, Berbatov, Rodallega.

Subs: Stockdale, Kelly, Karagounis, Briggs, Hughes, Ruiz, Frei.

Referee: P Dowd.

1:46pm

 

Sometimes they showed they can get the results and sometimes their weaknesses have been exploited, like we have. You saw a big contradiction with Aston Villa, losing 8-0 at Chelsea after winning at Liverpool the week before. That is the Barclays Premier League for you. It is unbelievably strong so you have to be strong in your organisation and you need your players that can make the difference. I feel we have got these players and hopefully they will be available. Even when they're not, we have got other players that can do the job, but the margin is a bit thin between being successful and not successful. I don't think (Adam Lallana being out) matters. If you see them, they had Jay Rodriguez and we had a close look at him. He was quite expensive and they bought him. They have Gaston Ramirez, who has over £10million and is a good player. He can play on that flank and if you see Jason Puncheon on the other flank, he has done very well. They also have Emmanuel Mayuka, who we had a look at as well. He was £6million or £7million. They have a few players that can fill in that role. We have to do that all the time so why couldn't they come up with a solution?

Fulham manager Martin Jol

1:44pm

 

I’ve highlighted you need to win your games at home, especially against the teams around us. It hasn’t gone our way. We’ll analyse it, we’ll quickly move on, we’ll draw a line underneath it and get ourselves ready for the next one. All the games are going to be pressurised. What we’ve got to do is make sure we regroup and get ourselves ready for Fulham. They’re good, they play that 4-4-1-1 very well, with Berbatov between the lines. They’re well-organised defensively, they’re a unit, similar to what we go and do. So they’ll be a team that’s difficult to break down, but one we believe we can score against.

Saints manager Nigel Adkins

1:24pm

Fulham squad news: Bryan Ruiz could return today. The 27-year-old has been out since coming off in the 3-1 defeat to Sunderland on November 18 with a hamstring injury, but is rated 50-50 by manager Martin Jol for a return. Mahamadou Diarra and Mladen Petric are doubts and Damien Duff is definitely out. Simon Davies (hip) is also unavailable, while Steve Sidwell returns from suspension.

1:20pm

Saints squad news: Adam Lallana will again miss out with a knee injury. Saints didn't appear to have any other obvious injury problems emanating from the loss to Sunderland last weekend, though.

1:16pm

1:15pm

Hello and welcome to the Daily Echo’s blog covering the Boxing Day clash between Fulham and Saints, at Craven Cottage. Nigel Adkins’ side were smarting over Christmas after suffering a deflating home defeat to Sunderland last weekend. They have a chance to bounce back from that today as they travel to an out-of-form Fulham team, who have won just one of their last ten league matches. Saints remain outside of the bottom three on goal difference going into today’s game and will be hoping to earn a bit of extra breathing space with a second away success of the campaign.

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1:22pm Wed 26 Dec 12

up saints says...

i would like to see jwp and tad lee start.well if iam honest like llalana to start more chance of luke shaw getting a hat trick
i would like to see jwp and tad lee start.well if iam honest like llalana to start more chance of luke shaw getting a hat trick up saints
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1:32pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Pogle says...

I think Tad Lee & JWP are both overdue some recognition, hope KD is between the sticks, Gazza is good long term but KD is the Man of the moment for me!

COYR 1-2 "The Mighty Saints"
I think Tad Lee & JWP are both overdue some recognition, hope KD is between the sticks, Gazza is good long term but KD is the Man of the moment for me! COYR 1-2 "The Mighty Saints" Pogle
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2:33pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

This is no push over but Saints away fans in good voice and stuffed full of turkey and ham should be in cracking voice.. Get in there cuzzies Gary and Andy!! the key to unlock Fulham. Saints win 1-3.


Come On You Saints
Come On You Saints
Come On You Saints
Come On You Saints
This is no push over but Saints away fans in good voice and stuffed full of turkey and ham should be in cracking voice.. Get in there cuzzies Gary and Andy!! the key to unlock Fulham. Saints win 1-3. Come On You Saints Come On You Saints Come On You Saints Come On You Saints Tirau Dan
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2:45pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?
Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya? Tirau Dan
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2:51pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

God Jul fra Norge!!!
Can't see/listen/stream the game today which is a bad omen for me as we seem to lose... Might have to find a bar on the way back to the in-laws.
Lykke til Saints!!!!
God Jul fra Norge!!! Can't see/listen/stream the game today which is a bad omen for me as we seem to lose... Might have to find a bar on the way back to the in-laws. Lykke til Saints!!!! Norwegian Saint
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3:00pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Confucious says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?
Did really well.

Got some special long-lasting adhesive coated chopsticks which you can easily hold a whole spring roll in with no fear of dropping it; a big snow man mould (just pack the snow in and separate the two halves and you've got a perfect snow man); a pair of "sock-ets" which are socks with little pockets in them for small change/car keys etc - and a pack of "Kelvin Davis SureStopper" condoms from the club shop.

Also got an Olympic Torch cigarette lighter, but it's far too big to be useful quite honestly.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?[/p][/quote]Did really well. Got some special long-lasting adhesive coated chopsticks which you can easily hold a whole spring roll in with no fear of dropping it; a big snow man mould (just pack the snow in and separate the two halves and you've got a perfect snow man); a pair of "sock-ets" which are socks with little pockets in them for small change/car keys etc - and a pack of "Kelvin Davis SureStopper" condoms from the club shop. Also got an Olympic Torch cigarette lighter, but it's far too big to be useful quite honestly. Confucious
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3:06pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Norway.. try vipboxsports.me link 3
Norway.. try vipboxsports.me link 3 Tirau Dan
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3:08pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Berbatov starts the rot.
Berbatov starts the rot. OSPREYSAINT
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3:10pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

disgraceful defence and keeping...
talk about a soft one.
Pull it back quick Saints. COYR
play for self respect
disgraceful defence and keeping... talk about a soft one. Pull it back quick Saints. COYR play for self respect Tirau Dan
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3:13pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Get's worse Skates 1 up too. Berbatov did get booked for celebrating.
Get's worse Skates 1 up too. Berbatov did get booked for celebrating. OSPREYSAINT
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3:15pm Wed 26 Dec 12

midsomernortonsaint says...

here we go again chasing a game coyr
here we go again chasing a game coyr midsomernortonsaint
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3:19pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Jameski says...

Please put gazzaniga back in goal...
Please put gazzaniga back in goal... Jameski
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3:23pm Wed 26 Dec 12

midsomernortonsaint says...

been to the last two home games and we just dont seem to have the qaulity in the last third
been to the last two home games and we just dont seem to have the qaulity in the last third midsomernortonsaint
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3:23pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Confucious wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?
Did really well.

Got some special long-lasting adhesive coated chopsticks which you can easily hold a whole spring roll in with no fear of dropping it; a big snow man mould (just pack the snow in and separate the two halves and you've got a perfect snow man); a pair of "sock-ets" which are socks with little pockets in them for small change/car keys etc - and a pack of "Kelvin Davis SureStopper" condoms from the club shop.

Also got an Olympic Torch cigarette lighter, but it's far too big to be useful quite honestly.
You could always blow up the condoms and hang them in our goal.. could do better than our defence at the mo.

I'll shake me new cooks knife at their defence.. that'll open em up. Very scary blade it is!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?[/p][/quote]Did really well. Got some special long-lasting adhesive coated chopsticks which you can easily hold a whole spring roll in with no fear of dropping it; a big snow man mould (just pack the snow in and separate the two halves and you've got a perfect snow man); a pair of "sock-ets" which are socks with little pockets in them for small change/car keys etc - and a pack of "Kelvin Davis SureStopper" condoms from the club shop. Also got an Olympic Torch cigarette lighter, but it's far too big to be useful quite honestly.[/p][/quote]You could always blow up the condoms and hang them in our goal.. could do better than our defence at the mo. I'll shake me new cooks knife at their defence.. that'll open em up. Very scary blade it is! Tirau Dan
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3:27pm Wed 26 Dec 12

costa gaz says...

Yet again Kelvin Davis has caused another soft goal... I think it really must be time now.
Error after error, not up to it at this level.
Yet again Kelvin Davis has caused another soft goal... I think it really must be time now. Error after error, not up to it at this level. costa gaz
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3:28pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Crawley have equalised.
Crawley have equalised. OSPREYSAINT
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3:29pm Wed 26 Dec 12

circa 66 saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?
a very expensive SKUNT neutering kit for when they are liquidised
have just opened my main present to find santa has brought me 2 gold plated 500g bricks with comfort handles for prolonged use,also a very extensive booklet on the correct use of these bricks, ear defenders and safety goggles.
just a little disappointed with the gas as it has simular properties to chloroform so will be using the wife's MACE instead
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Hope you have all had a great Christmas and are fit and ready for this match... What did Santa bring ya?[/p][/quote]a very expensive SKUNT neutering kit for when they are liquidised have just opened my main present to find santa has brought me 2 gold plated 500g bricks with comfort handles for prolonged use,also a very extensive booklet on the correct use of these bricks, ear defenders and safety goggles. just a little disappointed with the gas as it has simular properties to chloroform so will be using the wife's MACE instead circa 66 saint
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3:30pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping.
Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping. OSPREYSAINT
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3:35pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Pass the happy pills then ;p
Pass the happy pills then ;p Tirau Dan
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3:36pm Wed 26 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

We are shocking.
We are shocking. mack chinnon
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3:36pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Pils would be better.
Pils would be better. OSPREYSAINT
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3:38pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Clemster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping.
But you think saying "Berbatov starts the rot" isn't negative?!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping.[/p][/quote]But you think saying "Berbatov starts the rot" isn't negative?! Clemster
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3:40pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping.
But you think saying "Berbatov starts the rot" isn't negative?!
It certainly was, but I hope it isn't true.
[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Will you lot stop moaning, the negativity isn't helping.[/p][/quote]But you think saying "Berbatov starts the rot" isn't negative?![/p][/quote]It certainly was, but I hope it isn't true. OSPREYSAINT
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3:42pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

QPR are 1 down that's positive enough.
QPR are 1 down that's positive enough. OSPREYSAINT
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3:44pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Taupo bt says...

Tirau Dan-Please tell me how you follow the game.I am not ''computer literate'your help would be appreciated
Tirau Dan-Please tell me how you follow the game.I am not ''computer literate'your help would be appreciated Taupo bt
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3:47pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Had a couple of good spells but still can't seem to get any shots in, NA will have to get them being more positive in the second half.
Had a couple of good spells but still can't seem to get any shots in, NA will have to get them being more positive in the second half. OSPREYSAINT
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3:48pm Wed 26 Dec 12

midsomernortonsaint says...

skunts 1-1 makes me feel better
skunts 1-1 makes me feel better midsomernortonsaint
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3:53pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

I agree with Osprey. We need to get more shots in. It's doable.
I agree with Osprey. We need to get more shots in. It's doable. Rising_Son
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3:55pm Wed 26 Dec 12

BracknellSaint says...

Why is watching Saints so frustrating?!
Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone.
Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half..
Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence...
Why is watching Saints so frustrating?! Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone. Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half.. Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence... BracknellSaint
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4:00pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Finally checking in ...... from Lisbon!

Keep calm ....... on route from the North, we stopped off in Fatima. For those who don't know it's a religious site. You know, loads of churches and candles but far more shops than anything else all selling the same cr4p - effigies of Mary, crosses (oh, yes, how we could do with s few good crosses in the second half) and different shapes and sizes of the good Lord. Anyway, I said a prayer, so we can expect a lot better in the second half.

COYR, Amen!
Finally checking in ...... from Lisbon! Keep calm ....... on route from the North, we stopped off in Fatima. For those who don't know it's a religious site. You know, loads of churches and candles but far more shops than anything else all selling the same cr4p - effigies of Mary, crosses (oh, yes, how we could do with s few good crosses in the second half) and different shapes and sizes of the good Lord. Anyway, I said a prayer, so we can expect a lot better in the second half. COYR, Amen! Strasbourg Saint
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4:00pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

At home listening on the radio. Laptop nuked and. Beer & gear & the weather have stopped me venturing firth .
Totally reliant on Dave, well never mind!
Bring it on Saints!
At home listening on the radio. Laptop nuked and. Beer & gear & the weather have stopped me venturing firth . Totally reliant on Dave, well never mind! Bring it on Saints! rocketone
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4:02pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bath time, going to wash away some of the misery!
Bath time, going to wash away some of the misery! OSPREYSAINT
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4:02pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rossofficial10 says...

sunderland game all over again!

lots of possession! no chances!
sunderland game all over again! lots of possession! no chances! rossofficial10
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4:04pm Wed 26 Dec 12

SnapperSaint says...

We could do with at least a point today because I think it's our best chance of any points at all over the festive season...
We could do with at least a point today because I think it's our best chance of any points at all over the festive season... SnapperSaint
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4:05pm Wed 26 Dec 12

midsomernortonsaint says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Why is watching Saints so frustrating?!
Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone.
Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half..
Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence...
totally agree we over play it in the last third
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Why is watching Saints so frustrating?! Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone. Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half.. Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence...[/p][/quote]totally agree we over play it in the last third midsomernortonsaint
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4:10pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

Fulham using the trickery tactic.
Do we not have some trickeryists?
Fulham using the trickery tactic. Do we not have some trickeryists? rocketone
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4:13pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

Woefull finishing lets Saints off the hook.
Need to get a move on Saints
Woefull finishing lets Saints off the hook. Need to get a move on Saints rocketone
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4:16pm Wed 26 Dec 12

One Heart....One Vision says...

Come on Saints....my foul language turretts are coming back.
Come on Saints....my foul language turretts are coming back. One Heart....One Vision
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4:22pm Wed 26 Dec 12

LJSaint says...

Nice to see Sharp banging them in. Hang on....we need goals!
Nice to see Sharp banging them in. Hang on....we need goals! LJSaint
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4:29pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

midsomernortonsaint wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Why is watching Saints so frustrating?!
Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone.
Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half..
Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence...
totally agree we over play it in the last third
Rickie is great behind a fox in the box striker but as a lone striker he isn;t quick enough and never gets in position to take a pass - if we aren't playing crosses in the middle whats the point of a big heavy slow striker? Punch always takes it a few paces to far rather than unloading his cross. JWP and Jayrod needed back in the game. too many little short passes going no where. Mix it up a bit, bang in a few crosses.
[quote][p][bold]midsomernortonsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Why is watching Saints so frustrating?! Just like the Sunderland game here..Opposition have done nothing, but we've gifted another bloody soft goal out of nothing, and despite the nice build up, we're not cutting it in the final third...Waiting too long to shoot, or not slipping the ball in to the danger zone. Need more urgency and thrust in the final 30 yards in this second half.. Still think Fulham are there for the takin here, if our front boys have a bit more confidence...[/p][/quote]totally agree we over play it in the last third[/p][/quote]Rickie is great behind a fox in the box striker but as a lone striker he isn;t quick enough and never gets in position to take a pass - if we aren't playing crosses in the middle whats the point of a big heavy slow striker? Punch always takes it a few paces to far rather than unloading his cross. JWP and Jayrod needed back in the game. too many little short passes going no where. Mix it up a bit, bang in a few crosses. Tirau Dan
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4:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

N ever doubted Ricky!
1 - 1 come on Saints . . . . Go for it!
N ever doubted Ricky! 1 - 1 come on Saints . . . . Go for it! rocketone
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4:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Get in Rickie!

Thank you Chris Baird! A great Saint.
Get in Rickie! Thank you Chris Baird! A great Saint. Strasbourg Saint
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4:44pm Wed 26 Dec 12

midsomernortonsaint says...

get in lambert
get in lambert midsomernortonsaint
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4:45pm Wed 26 Dec 12

st bevois says...

At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way.
At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way. st bevois
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4:50pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

well root by boot sideways in the rain we are getting a bit of luck
well root by boot sideways in the rain we are getting a bit of luck Tirau Dan
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4:54pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

A. Point away!
I'll take that!
We are in a scrap and another 1 at Stoke would be fantasticable
A. Point away! I'll take that! We are in a scrap and another 1 at Stoke would be fantasticable rocketone
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4:58pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck.
It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck. Rising_Son
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5:01pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rocketone says...

And Pompey lose.
Want them to survive court so they can get relegated properly.
And Pompey lose. Want them to survive court so they can get relegated properly. rocketone
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5:13pm Wed 26 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

We were shocking.
We were shocking. mack chinnon
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5:15pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

There you go, get rid of the negativity and you get a point, all you moaners, get lost.
There you go, get rid of the negativity and you get a point, all you moaners, get lost. OSPREYSAINT
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5:17pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

mack chinnon wrote:
We were shocking.
Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: We were shocking.[/p][/quote]Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no. Rising_Son
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5:18pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

st bevois wrote:
At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way.
Dubious? Were you watching? The only query is whether Baird, while he was deliberately palming the ball away, could have had a foul given his way; not because there was a foul but because defenders usually get so much more protection than forwards.

Of course, I take full credit for the fact that a ref finally gave a penalty our way. Had I not popped into Fatima .......

As for the game and the performance, heaving missed the first half, it's hard for me to comment. However, had we not got something (and we nearly didn't), I would have been worried. Fulham looked a total mess. Even worse than they were at SMS, and I thought they looked pants that day.

If we can't finish above them (and at lest 4 others), it won't say much for us.

Still, let's take the point and hope we play somewhat better in the next 2 games - we'll need to.
[quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way.[/p][/quote]Dubious? Were you watching? The only query is whether Baird, while he was deliberately palming the ball away, could have had a foul given his way; not because there was a foul but because defenders usually get so much more protection than forwards. Of course, I take full credit for the fact that a ref finally gave a penalty our way. Had I not popped into Fatima ....... As for the game and the performance, heaving missed the first half, it's hard for me to comment. However, had we not got something (and we nearly didn't), I would have been worried. Fulham looked a total mess. Even worse than they were at SMS, and I thought they looked pants that day. If we can't finish above them (and at lest 4 others), it won't say much for us. Still, let's take the point and hope we play somewhat better in the next 2 games - we'll need to. Strasbourg Saint
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5:19pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
We were shocking.
Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.
We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: We were shocking.[/p][/quote]Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.[/p][/quote]We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at. Rising_Son
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5:28pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing! Bring back Branfoot
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5:31pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Rising_Son wrote:
It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck.
The pen was good.. lucky the ref saw it and lucky gave it. lucky sidders shot missed.. it was a sizzler.

Not a shocker for us.. better than last game but still loads work to do..
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck.[/p][/quote]The pen was good.. lucky the ref saw it and lucky gave it. lucky sidders shot missed.. it was a sizzler. Not a shocker for us.. better than last game but still loads work to do.. Tirau Dan
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5:32pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that? Rising_Son
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5:32pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
We were shocking.
Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.
We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.
Fair point, and Mack, I think the weather (as last Saturday) probably didn't help.

So, 3 positives:
1. We faught back in difficult conditions to get a (deserved) point
2. The centre-back pairing looks better and better (although I'm with those who want a top CB brought in during the window) So .......
3. The transfer window should bring some movement in and out.

The negative
1. We have struggled to beat two average teams over Christmas and conceded another poor goal today (okay, that's 2 negs, but I'm working on the theory that 2 negs make a positive)
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: We were shocking.[/p][/quote]Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.[/p][/quote]We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.[/p][/quote]Fair point, and Mack, I think the weather (as last Saturday) probably didn't help. So, 3 positives: 1. We faught back in difficult conditions to get a (deserved) point 2. The centre-back pairing looks better and better (although I'm with those who want a top CB brought in during the window) So ....... 3. The transfer window should bring some movement in and out. The negative 1. We have struggled to beat two average teams over Christmas and conceded another poor goal today (okay, that's 2 negs, but I'm working on the theory that 2 negs make a positive) Strasbourg Saint
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5:34pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

We needed something today after the Sunderland defeat who incidentally beat Man City today. I'm happy with a point and the fact we have finally been awarded another penalty.
Crawley winning has also put a big smile on my face.
COYR FOADP....yo ho ho
We needed something today after the Sunderland defeat who incidentally beat Man City today. I'm happy with a point and the fact we have finally been awarded another penalty. Crawley winning has also put a big smile on my face. COYR FOADP....yo ho ho J7junctionseven
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5:35pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?
Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?[/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! !!!!! Strasbourg Saint
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5:37pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck.
The pen was good.. lucky the ref saw it and lucky gave it. lucky sidders shot missed.. it was a sizzler.

Not a shocker for us.. better than last game but still loads work to do..
Somehow we seem to have lost the attacking flare that we had at the beginning of the season. It would be nice if we could get it back. (PS Unlucky that Rickie's volley missed. It was also a sizzler.)
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: It wasn't luck, Dan. We've not been given a penalty for so long, it just feels like luck.[/p][/quote]The pen was good.. lucky the ref saw it and lucky gave it. lucky sidders shot missed.. it was a sizzler. Not a shocker for us.. better than last game but still loads work to do..[/p][/quote]Somehow we seem to have lost the attacking flare that we had at the beginning of the season. It would be nice if we could get it back. (PS Unlucky that Rickie's volley missed. It was also a sizzler.) Rising_Son
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5:37pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?
I have no problem with people disagreeing. At the end of the day we'll see who will be proved right. If I'm wrong and NA turns it around, I'll gladly shout it from the roofs, that I got it badly wrong!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?[/p][/quote]I have no problem with people disagreeing. At the end of the day we'll see who will be proved right. If I'm wrong and NA turns it around, I'll gladly shout it from the roofs, that I got it badly wrong! Bring back Branfoot
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5:39pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have! Bring back Branfoot
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5:41pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice! warrens 76
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5:48pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example? Rising_Son
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5:50pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
Well, as stated earlier, I got dragged round Fatima, causing me to miss the first half.

Still, I've packed her and her mum off to the Lisbon sales, so not all is lost at this end.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]Well, as stated earlier, I got dragged round Fatima, causing me to miss the first half. Still, I've packed her and her mum off to the Lisbon sales, so not all is lost at this end. Strasbourg Saint
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5:51pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
It's early yet. More alcohol needed and the spare room may not be required....hopefull
y. Enjoy!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]It's early yet. More alcohol needed and the spare room may not be required....hopefull y. Enjoy! J7junctionseven
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5:53pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?
Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

!!!!!
It’s not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of the you. Your posts about Saints tend to contain little substance, usually stating the obvious and containing a lot of mind numbing small talk. Why you and the rest of your little clique can’t just exchange emails and bore each other directly is beyond me. Cut out the middle man, so to speak!

Try making an astute observation about the team, once in a while!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?[/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! !!!!![/p][/quote]It’s not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of the you. Your posts about Saints tend to contain little substance, usually stating the obvious and containing a lot of mind numbing small talk. Why you and the rest of your little clique can’t just exchange emails and bore each other directly is beyond me. Cut out the middle man, so to speak! Try making an astute observation about the team, once in a while! Bring back Branfoot
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5:55pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
Well, as stated earlier, I got dragged round Fatima, causing me to miss the first half.

Still, I've packed her and her mum off to the Lisbon sales, so not all is lost at this end.
Late night kickoffs here. Luckily, she doesn't complain except when I react to a Saints goal.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]Well, as stated earlier, I got dragged round Fatima, causing me to miss the first half. Still, I've packed her and her mum off to the Lisbon sales, so not all is lost at this end.[/p][/quote]Late night kickoffs here. Luckily, she doesn't complain except when I react to a Saints goal. Rising_Son
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5:56pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Pooley says...

With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.
With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision. Pooley
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5:59pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?
Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!


!!!!!
It’s not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of the you. Your posts about Saints tend to contain little substance, usually stating the obvious and containing a lot of mind numbing small talk. Why you and the rest of your little clique can’t just exchange emails and bore each other directly is beyond me. Cut out the middle man, so to speak!

Try making an astute observation about the team, once in a while!
If 'it's not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of' Stras, why did you respond?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Why is that?[/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! !!!!![/p][/quote]It’s not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of the you. Your posts about Saints tend to contain little substance, usually stating the obvious and containing a lot of mind numbing small talk. Why you and the rest of your little clique can’t just exchange emails and bore each other directly is beyond me. Cut out the middle man, so to speak! Try making an astute observation about the team, once in a while![/p][/quote]If 'it's not worth entering into any sort of dialogue with the likes of' Stras, why did you respond? Rising_Son
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6:06pm Wed 26 Dec 12

redsnapper says...

Gaston on the left DOES NOT WORK.
I hear Merrington was going bonkers that it took Nigel so long to adjust from long ball to the stranded and isolated Ricki, to putting Gaston back in the hole and replacing the mundane Davis with JRod.

As for the other Davies, his time is up hugely at fault for the Fulham opener.
Gaston on the left DOES NOT WORK. I hear Merrington was going bonkers that it took Nigel so long to adjust from long ball to the stranded and isolated Ricki, to putting Gaston back in the hole and replacing the mundane Davis with JRod. As for the other Davies, his time is up hugely at fault for the Fulham opener. redsnapper
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6:06pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.
And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails. Bring back Branfoot
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6:10pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Oh well... Just got back and seen the result, that's an ok point.
Six easy points next up... Stoke are rubbish at home and Arse'nal were lucky at the emirates with six dodgy decisions!
Also could have been so much worse... could've been a Poopey fan! Crawley... WTF!? Crawley at home... My god, how funny is that!
Oh well... Just got back and seen the result, that's an ok point. Six easy points next up... Stoke are rubbish at home and Arse'nal were lucky at the emirates with six dodgy decisions! Also could have been so much worse... could've been a Poopey fan! Crawley... WTF!? Crawley at home... My god, how funny is that! Norwegian Saint
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6:11pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Pooley wrote:
With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.
No Lallana is also a major problem which NA and the team have to contend with I'm afraid and may contribute to your observations. We don't seem to click so well when he's missing as some of our players are asked to play in positions that in my opinion they are not comfortable in whichhampers our style of play.
[quote][p][bold]Pooley[/bold] wrote: With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.[/p][/quote]No Lallana is also a major problem which NA and the team have to contend with I'm afraid and may contribute to your observations. We don't seem to click so well when he's missing as some of our players are asked to play in positions that in my opinion they are not comfortable in whichhampers our style of play. J7junctionseven
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6:12pm Wed 26 Dec 12

slugger says...

i'll take that , happy with a point .
i'll take that , happy with a point . slugger
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6:14pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Ted Rogers says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You need a dose of reality and a little more patience.
Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight.
Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year.
Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive.
Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley.
Up the Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You need a dose of reality and a little more patience. Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight. Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year. Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive. Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley. Up the Saints. Ted Rogers
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6:16pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Oh well... Just got back and seen the result, that's an ok point.
Six easy points next up... Stoke are rubbish at home and Arse'nal were lucky at the emirates with six dodgy decisions!
Also could have been so much worse... could've been a Poopey fan! Crawley... WTF!? Crawley at home... My god, how funny is that!
Gives you a nice feeling inside and makes the point we got seem even better doesn't it.
Smiling like a Cheshire Cat
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Oh well... Just got back and seen the result, that's an ok point. Six easy points next up... Stoke are rubbish at home and Arse'nal were lucky at the emirates with six dodgy decisions! Also could have been so much worse... could've been a Poopey fan! Crawley... WTF!? Crawley at home... My god, how funny is that![/p][/quote]Gives you a nice feeling inside and makes the point we got seem even better doesn't it. Smiling like a Cheshire Cat J7junctionseven
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6:18pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate
COYR
Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate COYR J7junctionseven
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6:21pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Pooley wrote:
With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.
I generally agree about both Fulham and our lack of wide play. However, re our current tendency to play through the middle, if you watch, say, Spain (not a bad example), unlike, say, England (not a good one), the play tends to be much more central, with the wings being used more sparingly and, thus, less predictably so as have a much greater effect.

The trouble with English football (and I speak as an old winger, so I'm as guilty as anyone) is that, with the Wimbledon/Watford hoofball exceptions (for which there's very little excuse), it's all so boringly predictable. Win the ball, play it wide, hang a cross into the box and ........

I'd be interested to watch a video of every England goal from open play of the past 50 years and see how many didn't involve route one, a shot from distance, a bit of individual flair or play down the wings. In short, THAT goal (the third or fourth) against Holland in '96.

The future is clearly more about holding onto the ball and moving it about so as to vary the options. It's just that we've not yet perfected it; but with the current coaching set up, you can see the progress we're making.

After all, least we forget, we've come rapidly through the leagues, it's our first year back in the Prem, and new (hopefully better) players are slowly being added and are being bedded in.

It takes time but the signs are, over all, very good.
[quote][p][bold]Pooley[/bold] wrote: With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.[/p][/quote]I generally agree about both Fulham and our lack of wide play. However, re our current tendency to play through the middle, if you watch, say, Spain (not a bad example), unlike, say, England (not a good one), the play tends to be much more central, with the wings being used more sparingly and, thus, less predictably so as have a much greater effect. The trouble with English football (and I speak as an old winger, so I'm as guilty as anyone) is that, with the Wimbledon/Watford hoofball exceptions (for which there's very little excuse), it's all so boringly predictable. Win the ball, play it wide, hang a cross into the box and ........ I'd be interested to watch a video of every England goal from open play of the past 50 years and see how many didn't involve route one, a shot from distance, a bit of individual flair or play down the wings. In short, THAT goal (the third or fourth) against Holland in '96. The future is clearly more about holding onto the ball and moving it about so as to vary the options. It's just that we've not yet perfected it; but with the current coaching set up, you can see the progress we're making. After all, least we forget, we've come rapidly through the leagues, it's our first year back in the Prem, and new (hopefully better) players are slowly being added and are being bedded in. It takes time but the signs are, over all, very good. Strasbourg Saint
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6:24pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Scarborosaint says...

Plenty of doomers and gloomers as usual , point away is decent disappointing display Saturday but we have tightened up look harder to beat and maybe a player or 2 in window will be required to take us to next level , definitely better than earlier season , hard game at Stoke but they are beatable , need big games from yoshi, fonte and rickie from set plays, KD may have to come for a few things too
Plenty of doomers and gloomers as usual , point away is decent disappointing display Saturday but we have tightened up look harder to beat and maybe a player or 2 in window will be required to take us to next level , definitely better than earlier season , hard game at Stoke but they are beatable , need big games from yoshi, fonte and rickie from set plays, KD may have to come for a few things too Scarborosaint
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6:26pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate
COYR
Spot on J7 ..... as indeed was Ted.

P.S. New name, J7? You been a naughty boy?
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate COYR[/p][/quote]Spot on J7 ..... as indeed was Ted. P.S. New name, J7? You been a naughty boy? Strasbourg Saint
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6:28pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Scarborosaint says...

Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!!
Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!! Scarborosaint
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6:29pm Wed 26 Dec 12

redsnapper says...

KD should be dropped he blundered against Sunderland (nearly let the ball squirt though his legs) and today he gifted the ball to Berbatov..

Great and professional servant but not up to Prem standard.
KD should be dropped he blundered against Sunderland (nearly let the ball squirt though his legs) and today he gifted the ball to Berbatov.. Great and professional servant but not up to Prem standard. redsnapper
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6:42pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!!
Yellow.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!![/p][/quote]Yellow. Rising_Son
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6:42pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintkenny says...

redsnapper wrote:
KD should be dropped he blundered against Sunderland (nearly let the ball squirt though his legs) and today he gifted the ball to Berbatov..

Great and professional servant but not up to Prem standard.
then again like the sunderland game the winger is not closed down.able to cross freely .gazz made mistakes .not up to the premier league yet either.so either you play borac .or wait till january to get a premier keeper .maybe that is what he his doing
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: KD should be dropped he blundered against Sunderland (nearly let the ball squirt though his legs) and today he gifted the ball to Berbatov.. Great and professional servant but not up to Prem standard.[/p][/quote]then again like the sunderland game the winger is not closed down.able to cross freely .gazz made mistakes .not up to the premier league yet either.so either you play borac .or wait till january to get a premier keeper .maybe that is what he his doing saintkenny
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6:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
It's early yet. More alcohol needed and the spare room may not be required....hopefull

y. Enjoy!
Working on it!!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]It's early yet. More alcohol needed and the spare room may not be required....hopefull y. Enjoy![/p][/quote]Working on it!! warrens 76
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6:46pm Wed 26 Dec 12

st bevois says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
st bevois wrote:
At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way.
Dubious? Were you watching? The only query is whether Baird, while he was deliberately palming the ball away, could have had a foul given his way; not because there was a foul but because defenders usually get so much more protection than forwards.

Of course, I take full credit for the fact that a ref finally gave a penalty our way. Had I not popped into Fatima .......

As for the game and the performance, heaving missed the first half, it's hard for me to comment. However, had we not got something (and we nearly didn't), I would have been worried. Fulham looked a total mess. Even worse than they were at SMS, and I thought they looked pants that day.

If we can't finish above them (and at lest 4 others), it won't say much for us.

Still, let's take the point and hope we play somewhat better in the next 2 games - we'll need to.
Didn't see it. Going by radio comments. If it was a clear pen, who's complaining? Just glad a ref got it our way. RL could have been into double figs by now if you go by some of the missed decisions in recent weeks. Have to say though, it looks like another massive 2 points dropped; even if we did rescue 1point. Fulham looked there for the taking. Everyone knows exactly how we are going to set ourselves out now. The only open book was "who would replace AL in his position on left. Surprise, surprise let's put Ramirez out there. Just like Sunderland. Even when subs come on they are expected to take up a place in the same pattern.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: At last. A pen! Long overdue, even if a bit dubious. So many poor decisions against us in last half a dozen games. Nice to get one our way.[/p][/quote]Dubious? Were you watching? The only query is whether Baird, while he was deliberately palming the ball away, could have had a foul given his way; not because there was a foul but because defenders usually get so much more protection than forwards. Of course, I take full credit for the fact that a ref finally gave a penalty our way. Had I not popped into Fatima ....... As for the game and the performance, heaving missed the first half, it's hard for me to comment. However, had we not got something (and we nearly didn't), I would have been worried. Fulham looked a total mess. Even worse than they were at SMS, and I thought they looked pants that day. If we can't finish above them (and at lest 4 others), it won't say much for us. Still, let's take the point and hope we play somewhat better in the next 2 games - we'll need to.[/p][/quote]Didn't see it. Going by radio comments. If it was a clear pen, who's complaining? Just glad a ref got it our way. RL could have been into double figs by now if you go by some of the missed decisions in recent weeks. Have to say though, it looks like another massive 2 points dropped; even if we did rescue 1point. Fulham looked there for the taking. Everyone knows exactly how we are going to set ourselves out now. The only open book was "who would replace AL in his position on left. Surprise, surprise let's put Ramirez out there. Just like Sunderland. Even when subs come on they are expected to take up a place in the same pattern. st bevois
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6:50pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.
Preaching to the choir BbB...we hold the ball and to what end...hold the ball forever if that is required but do not repeat do not hoof it to the opposition and pleeese think ahead and cut them up ..how many teams have ahd one or two efforts all game and come away with three points...in other words SFC when you pass it around have a point...happy with 'the' point.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.[/p][/quote]Preaching to the choir BbB...we hold the ball and to what end...hold the ball forever if that is required but do not repeat do not hoof it to the opposition and pleeese think ahead and cut them up ..how many teams have ahd one or two efforts all game and come away with three points...in other words SFC when you pass it around have a point...happy with 'the' point. warrens 76
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6:50pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Scarborosaint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!!
Yellow.
Cheers mate will go with the red in that case and get my singing voice on
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!![/p][/quote]Yellow.[/p][/quote]Cheers mate will go with the red in that case and get my singing voice on Scarborosaint
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6:53pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You need a dose of reality and a little more patience.
Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight.
Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year.
Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive.
Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley.
Up the Saints.
Accrington Stanley, who the fück are dey!
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You need a dose of reality and a little more patience. Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight. Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year. Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive. Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]Accrington Stanley, who the fück are dey! warrens 76
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6:55pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!!
Yellow.
Yellow and blue, yellow and blue, bells are still ringing for the yellow and blue.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Any idea what colour we will wear Saturday guys taking son to brittania and knowing our luck we will be in yellow after both getting red+white shirts for Xmas !!![/p][/quote]Yellow.[/p][/quote]Yellow and blue, yellow and blue, bells are still ringing for the yellow and blue. warrens 76
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7:06pm Wed 26 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
mack chinnon wrote: We were shocking.
Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.
We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.
True. But we were very predictable.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: We were shocking.[/p][/quote]Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.[/p][/quote]We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.[/p][/quote]True. But we were very predictable. mack chinnon
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7:11pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!! saintlysoul
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7:27pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
It's always good to read comments from fans who were at the match. I assume the tube strike did go ahead, didn't it? So, yes, well done to you and all the travelling fans who made it there today. You could be heard loud and clear on the Internet link.

How were the conditions? They looked awful; maybe that played a part today, no?

Can't agree with your player assessments, though. I watched only the second half, but Fonte and Yoshida looked very solid and Spiderman and Cork ran the second half. Shaw looked poor today but he's allowed an off day, just as anyone is.

My bigger gripe today would be that we didn't seem to be able to penetrate a very poor Fulham defence with more telling effect.

I also thought Nigel should have changed things earlier but, in the end, it's a point in London. My guess is, earlier in the seaosn, we would have been 2 or 3 down before the penalty. So, let's at least take that as a sign of progress, eh?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]It's always good to read comments from fans who were at the match. I assume the tube strike did go ahead, didn't it? So, yes, well done to you and all the travelling fans who made it there today. You could be heard loud and clear on the Internet link. How were the conditions? They looked awful; maybe that played a part today, no? Can't agree with your player assessments, though. I watched only the second half, but Fonte and Yoshida looked very solid and Spiderman and Cork ran the second half. Shaw looked poor today but he's allowed an off day, just as anyone is. My bigger gripe today would be that we didn't seem to be able to penetrate a very poor Fulham defence with more telling effect. I also thought Nigel should have changed things earlier but, in the end, it's a point in London. My guess is, earlier in the seaosn, we would have been 2 or 3 down before the penalty. So, let's at least take that as a sign of progress, eh? Strasbourg Saint
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7:31pm Wed 26 Dec 12

SaintMax says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
But other than that you are pretty optimistic about our chances of staying up? What a negative post..
People also on here complaining about where is the attacking flair we showed in the first few games?...
We can't have it all ways.. If you are at the bottom end of the table and playing away from home you need to not concede goals and grind out results. Open up and play with attacking flair and we get caught on the break and concede.
I'll take 1 - 1, that's a result.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]But other than that you are pretty optimistic about our chances of staying up? What a negative post.. People also on here complaining about where is the attacking flair we showed in the first few games?... We can't have it all ways.. If you are at the bottom end of the table and playing away from home you need to not concede goals and grind out results. Open up and play with attacking flair and we get caught on the break and concede. I'll take 1 - 1, that's a result. SaintMax
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7:32pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate
COYR
Spot on J7 ..... as indeed was Ted.

P.S. New name, J7? You been a naughty boy?
Allegedly....a mate of mine used my lap top when we had a bit of a Christmas get together a few days ago. We were worst for wear the next day..and I'd been well and truly stitched up. Had a laugh about it though.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Ted..don't bother wasting you time on that mate COYR[/p][/quote]Spot on J7 ..... as indeed was Ted. P.S. New name, J7? You been a naughty boy?[/p][/quote]Allegedly....a mate of mine used my lap top when we had a bit of a Christmas get together a few days ago. We were worst for wear the next day..and I'd been well and truly stitched up. Had a laugh about it though. J7junctionseven
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7:32pm Wed 26 Dec 12

angus mc coatup says...

well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed
4-0 at home tonight.
well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed 4-0 at home tonight. angus mc coatup
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7:36pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

SaintMax wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
But other than that you are pretty optimistic about our chances of staying up? What a negative post..
People also on here complaining about where is the attacking flair we showed in the first few games?...
We can't have it all ways.. If you are at the bottom end of the table and playing away from home you need to not concede goals and grind out results. Open up and play with attacking flair and we get caught on the break and concede.
I'll take 1 - 1, that's a result.
You may perceive it as a negative post. We're you at the match? I'm not going to say Saints were fantastic when they weren't. If you can't accept criticism of the Saints then perhaps it's better you don't read the posts!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]But other than that you are pretty optimistic about our chances of staying up? What a negative post.. People also on here complaining about where is the attacking flair we showed in the first few games?... We can't have it all ways.. If you are at the bottom end of the table and playing away from home you need to not concede goals and grind out results. Open up and play with attacking flair and we get caught on the break and concede. I'll take 1 - 1, that's a result.[/p][/quote]You may perceive it as a negative post. We're you at the match? I'm not going to say Saints were fantastic when they weren't. If you can't accept criticism of the Saints then perhaps it's better you don't read the posts!!!! saintlysoul
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7:39pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
It's always good to read comments from fans who were at the match. I assume the tube strike did go ahead, didn't it? So, yes, well done to you and all the travelling fans who made it there today. You could be heard loud and clear on the Internet link.

How were the conditions? They looked awful; maybe that played a part today, no?

Can't agree with your player assessments, though. I watched only the second half, but Fonte and Yoshida looked very solid and Spiderman and Cork ran the second half. Shaw looked poor today but he's allowed an off day, just as anyone is.

My bigger gripe today would be that we didn't seem to be able to penetrate a very poor Fulham defence with more telling effect.

I also thought Nigel should have changed things earlier but, in the end, it's a point in London. My guess is, earlier in the seaosn, we would have been 2 or 3 down before the penalty. So, let's at least take that as a sign of progress, eh?
I respect your opinion as to those players albeit I don't agree!!!! There was a tube strike I'm told and yes in fairness to both sides the conditions were awful - torrential rain at times during the game.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]It's always good to read comments from fans who were at the match. I assume the tube strike did go ahead, didn't it? So, yes, well done to you and all the travelling fans who made it there today. You could be heard loud and clear on the Internet link. How were the conditions? They looked awful; maybe that played a part today, no? Can't agree with your player assessments, though. I watched only the second half, but Fonte and Yoshida looked very solid and Spiderman and Cork ran the second half. Shaw looked poor today but he's allowed an off day, just as anyone is. My bigger gripe today would be that we didn't seem to be able to penetrate a very poor Fulham defence with more telling effect. I also thought Nigel should have changed things earlier but, in the end, it's a point in London. My guess is, earlier in the seaosn, we would have been 2 or 3 down before the penalty. So, let's at least take that as a sign of progress, eh?[/p][/quote]I respect your opinion as to those players albeit I don't agree!!!! There was a tube strike I'm told and yes in fairness to both sides the conditions were awful - torrential rain at times during the game. saintlysoul
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7:39pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
Wow.....glad I didn't go today. ......
On a positive note.....other than the fans being excellent, which they are normally at every away game, especially in London, we did get point and the skunts got beat and I had cold meat and mash etc.
COYR Merry Christmas
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]Wow.....glad I didn't go today. ...... On a positive note.....other than the fans being excellent, which they are normally at every away game, especially in London, we did get point and the skunts got beat and I had cold meat and mash etc. COYR Merry Christmas J7junctionseven
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7:42pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
Wow.....glad I didn't go today. ......
On a positive note.....other than the fans being excellent, which they are normally at every away game, especially in London, we did get point and the skunts got beat and I had cold meat and mash etc.
COYR Merry Christmas
Ha ha yes as you say it was a point. Hope you enjoyed your grub!!! Merry Christmas!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]Wow.....glad I didn't go today. ...... On a positive note.....other than the fans being excellent, which they are normally at every away game, especially in London, we did get point and the skunts got beat and I had cold meat and mash etc. COYR Merry Christmas[/p][/quote]Ha ha yes as you say it was a point. Hope you enjoyed your grub!!! Merry Christmas! saintlysoul
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7:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed
4-0 at home tonight.
QPR lost at home, Wigan and Newcastle lost and Reading drew.
So not to bad really.....oh and don't forget that the mighty Crawley Town won away
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed 4-0 at home tonight.[/p][/quote]QPR lost at home, Wigan and Newcastle lost and Reading drew. So not to bad really.....oh and don't forget that the mighty Crawley Town won away J7junctionseven
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7:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed
4-0 at home tonight.
QPR lost at home, Wigan and Newcastle lost and Reading drew.
So not to bad really.....oh and don't forget that the mighty Crawley Town won away
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: well, as far results go it aint been a bad day for us.aston villa got smashed 4-0 at home tonight.[/p][/quote]QPR lost at home, Wigan and Newcastle lost and Reading drew. So not to bad really.....oh and don't forget that the mighty Crawley Town won away J7junctionseven
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8:07pm Wed 26 Dec 12

rossofficial10 says...

when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday! rossofficial10
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8:10pm Wed 26 Dec 12

loosehead says...

Now I do feel that the transfer window could be the making or the breaking of Adkins, chose wisely shore up our defence start beating teams like Fulham & he'll be okay go the other way & I can't see him surviving.
the problem is he could be a great manager but as in the past if the team can't raise their game against Sunderland at home what can he do?
start kicking arse?
Well done today & the commentators were praising Fulhams keeper for saving them
Now I do feel that the transfer window could be the making or the breaking of Adkins, chose wisely shore up our defence start beating teams like Fulham & he'll be okay go the other way & I can't see him surviving. the problem is he could be a great manager but as in the past if the team can't raise their game against Sunderland at home what can he do? start kicking arse? Well done today & the commentators were praising Fulhams keeper for saving them loosehead
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8:12pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Jesus_02 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.
I'm sure he reads these comments and will be quoting you at training first thing tomorrow morning
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.[/p][/quote]I'm sure he reads these comments and will be quoting you at training first thing tomorrow morning Jesus_02
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8:19pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!! saintlysoul
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8:43pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintmicky says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You need a dose of reality and a little more patience.
Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight.
Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year.
Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive.
Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley.
Up the Saints.
THAT!!

COYRS
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You need a dose of reality and a little more patience. Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight. Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year. Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive. Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]THAT!! COYRS saintmicky
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8:49pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Confucious says...

Before the match we were out of the bottom three on goal difference. Now we are a point clear.

I'm nearly very happy with that.
Before the match we were out of the bottom three on goal difference. Now we are a point clear. I'm nearly very happy with that. Confucious
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8:55pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them. Nicole23
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9:01pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Well earned point.
Pompey, Who beat them.
I am well stuffed.
Happy New Year to all
Bring back Billy another 2 goals Today.
Well earned point. Pompey, Who beat them. I am well stuffed. Happy New Year to all Bring back Billy another 2 goals Today. Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:11pm Wed 26 Dec 12

batesieboy says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution. batesieboy
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9:31pm Wed 26 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

batesieboy wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.
This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.[/p][/quote]This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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9:37pm Wed 26 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Pooley wrote:
With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.
I generally agree about both Fulham and our lack of wide play. However, re our current tendency to play through the middle, if you watch, say, Spain (not a bad example), unlike, say, England (not a good one), the play tends to be much more central, with the wings being used more sparingly and, thus, less predictably so as have a much greater effect.

The trouble with English football (and I speak as an old winger, so I'm as guilty as anyone) is that, with the Wimbledon/Watford hoofball exceptions (for which there's very little excuse), it's all so boringly predictable. Win the ball, play it wide, hang a cross into the box and ........

I'd be interested to watch a video of every England goal from open play of the past 50 years and see how many didn't involve route one, a shot from distance, a bit of individual flair or play down the wings. In short, THAT goal (the third or fourth) against Holland in '96.

The future is clearly more about holding onto the ball and moving it about so as to vary the options. It's just that we've not yet perfected it; but with the current coaching set up, you can see the progress we're making.

After all, least we forget, we've come rapidly through the leagues, it's our first year back in the Prem, and new (hopefully better) players are slowly being added and are being bedded in.

It takes time but the signs are, over all, very good.
he that knoweth his failings can as a wise man seek to avoid them...
Fools are determined to repeat their mistakes and expect a different outcome!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pooley[/bold] wrote: With respect Fulham are an average or below average side whereas Saints are technically superior generally but we have performed below average the last two games. Main problems I'm afraid are the keeper position in general and I notice we are very narrow in our play; 65 per cent of attacking play in the central channel. Most teams concede when the opposition have wide play. This is NA's decision.[/p][/quote]I generally agree about both Fulham and our lack of wide play. However, re our current tendency to play through the middle, if you watch, say, Spain (not a bad example), unlike, say, England (not a good one), the play tends to be much more central, with the wings being used more sparingly and, thus, less predictably so as have a much greater effect. The trouble with English football (and I speak as an old winger, so I'm as guilty as anyone) is that, with the Wimbledon/Watford hoofball exceptions (for which there's very little excuse), it's all so boringly predictable. Win the ball, play it wide, hang a cross into the box and ........ I'd be interested to watch a video of every England goal from open play of the past 50 years and see how many didn't involve route one, a shot from distance, a bit of individual flair or play down the wings. In short, THAT goal (the third or fourth) against Holland in '96. The future is clearly more about holding onto the ball and moving it about so as to vary the options. It's just that we've not yet perfected it; but with the current coaching set up, you can see the progress we're making. After all, least we forget, we've come rapidly through the leagues, it's our first year back in the Prem, and new (hopefully better) players are slowly being added and are being bedded in. It takes time but the signs are, over all, very good.[/p][/quote]he that knoweth his failings can as a wise man seek to avoid them... Fools are determined to repeat their mistakes and expect a different outcome! warrens 76
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9:39pm Wed 26 Dec 12

RedArmy1 says...

Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR. RedArmy1
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9:41pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Saintjock says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
Boring repetitive and ignorant. Despite denials you are a WUM or Skunt, you continue to display the mindset of someone who wants to appear to have the interests of Saints at heart but to have the right to express anti Liebherr and Adkins comments, without any evidence to back it up. I only occasionally come on this board now because of posters like you. Adkins - 4 promotions in 6 seasons. Liebherr/Cortese - longterm investment in players, academy and infrastructure.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]Boring repetitive and ignorant. Despite denials you are a WUM or Skunt, you continue to display the mindset of someone who wants to appear to have the interests of Saints at heart but to have the right to express anti Liebherr and Adkins comments, without any evidence to back it up. I only occasionally come on this board now because of posters like you. Adkins - 4 promotions in 6 seasons. Liebherr/Cortese - longterm investment in players, academy and infrastructure. Saintjock
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9:49pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
Thanks for reporting back, I was listening on Solent (as a dedicated Happy Clapper) from their commentatory the impression was somewhat different, they gave great credit to Spider and Corky, no real criticism of Yosh or Jose, they did pick up on a couple of errors by Shaw, most uncharacteristic, maybe down to the conditons, they did hint that KD was at fault for their goal, making the wrong choice of clearance, but give Berbatov the credit for a snappy finish. They seem to think that Lambo was given absolutely no service where it counted, his work when he did get the ball was excellent. They said Puncheon only looked good during the period when he went wide left. Ramirez showed flashes of his talent during the last fifteen minutes when he went in to the "hole", should have been there all of the time. They did wonder at the timing of the substitutions too, JRod could have been on earlier. They did state that we were the better team for the last quarter. The Saints supporters were very loud and consistent throughout, well done them, they deserved to get something from the game. Stoke have just beaten Liverpool 3 - 1 and look a good side, but may have picked up a vital yellow card or two? I don't fancy Mayuka v Crouch, that is a bit of a mismatch. Trying hard not to be negative, it is not easy. You are right, some decent signings could be the turning point, but being one point above the relegation line is better than I expected 3 weeks ago. No bookings for us again, that is impressive but are we being too nice?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]Thanks for reporting back, I was listening on Solent (as a dedicated Happy Clapper) from their commentatory the impression was somewhat different, they gave great credit to Spider and Corky, no real criticism of Yosh or Jose, they did pick up on a couple of errors by Shaw, most uncharacteristic, maybe down to the conditons, they did hint that KD was at fault for their goal, making the wrong choice of clearance, but give Berbatov the credit for a snappy finish. They seem to think that Lambo was given absolutely no service where it counted, his work when he did get the ball was excellent. They said Puncheon only looked good during the period when he went wide left. Ramirez showed flashes of his talent during the last fifteen minutes when he went in to the "hole", should have been there all of the time. They did wonder at the timing of the substitutions too, JRod could have been on earlier. They did state that we were the better team for the last quarter. The Saints supporters were very loud and consistent throughout, well done them, they deserved to get something from the game. Stoke have just beaten Liverpool 3 - 1 and look a good side, but may have picked up a vital yellow card or two? I don't fancy Mayuka v Crouch, that is a bit of a mismatch. Trying hard not to be negative, it is not easy. You are right, some decent signings could be the turning point, but being one point above the relegation line is better than I expected 3 weeks ago. No bookings for us again, that is impressive but are we being too nice? OSPREYSAINT
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9:53pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saintlysoul wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.
This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!!
Of course everyone has the right to their opinion.

Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.[/p][/quote]This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Of course everyone has the right to their opinion. Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:55pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Saintjock says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
Was there too and if that was your view of the match then I doubt we saw the same match. Cork was our MoM, Yoshida had good second half, Fonte had Berbatov in his pocket second half. Davis and Spider non-existent?! You must have been in the pie queue most of the match.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]Was there too and if that was your view of the match then I doubt we saw the same match. Cork was our MoM, Yoshida had good second half, Fonte had Berbatov in his pocket second half. Davis and Spider non-existent?! You must have been in the pie queue most of the match. Saintjock
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10:00pm Wed 26 Dec 12

bluewhiteandred says...

saintmicky wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You need a dose of reality and a little more patience.
Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight.
Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year.
Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive.
Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley.
Up the Saints.
THAT!!

COYRS
Well we will play them for you . Will saints now take avantage of aston villa s more dramatic fall from grace 12 goals conceded in two games i thought pompey was bad ! . Stoke wont be so easy.
Happy new Year saints
[quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You need a dose of reality and a little more patience. Two promotions and you think we should be setting the world alight. Ever heard of continuity? Most team's primary goal in this league is survival followed by the compilation of a squad to make that goal easier year on year. Adkins and the board have had a single transfer window - what are you expecting? You talk about potential, but you want it instantly; don't be so naive. Two seasons ago league 1 after being on the brink of extinction; be thankful that you're watching us play against Man U et al instead of teams like Crawley, Bournemouth and Accrington Stanley. Up the Saints.[/p][/quote]THAT!! COYRS[/p][/quote]Well we will play them for you . Will saints now take avantage of aston villa s more dramatic fall from grace 12 goals conceded in two games i thought pompey was bad ! . Stoke wont be so easy. Happy new Year saints bluewhiteandred
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10:02pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Puddletown Saint says...

I am a NA fan but he really has got so much wrong this season Square pegs into round holes is an under statement

Gaston just must play in the hole behind Rickie. Fox and Punch in the wide roles - getting in the crosses. And Spider/Corky have go to be quicker with the distribution.

Saints play best with a 4411. Lets keep in simple - If Adam is out it is Fox If Rickie is on the side then it is Jay If Spider is suspended then JWP.

You get me drift.

Love the Saints but Barca we are not (yet)

In short - play the players in best positions, support Rickie and get some crosses in from the wings

Come on you Reds
I am a NA fan but he really has got so much wrong this season Square pegs into round holes is an under statement Gaston just must play in the hole behind Rickie. Fox and Punch in the wide roles - getting in the crosses. And Spider/Corky have go to be quicker with the distribution. Saints play best with a 4411. Lets keep in simple - If Adam is out it is Fox If Rickie is on the side then it is Jay If Spider is suspended then JWP. You get me drift. Love the Saints but Barca we are not (yet) In short - play the players in best positions, support Rickie and get some crosses in from the wings Come on you Reds Puddletown Saint
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10:04pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Time for Football First Screen 3.
Time for Football First Screen 3. OSPREYSAINT
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10:14pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Saintjock says...

saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise? Saintjock
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10:16pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Time for Football First Screen 3.
Watching it. Why do the players have black arm bands on? I've obviously missed the death of someone.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Time for Football First Screen 3.[/p][/quote]Watching it. Why do the players have black arm bands on? I've obviously missed the death of someone. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:16pm Wed 26 Dec 12

promised land says...

Saintlysoul ? Certainly not heartysoul everyone who played except the keeper was bad. I think the way your comments read even if JWP had been on the pitch as you suggested, you would have complained about him too. I'm currently 10000 miles away in Australia so can't really comment as I've not yet seen the game but going by the account you've given I have to ask why didn't Fulham score double figures ?
Saintlysoul ? Certainly not heartysoul everyone who played except the keeper was bad. I think the way your comments read even if JWP had been on the pitch as you suggested, you would have complained about him too. I'm currently 10000 miles away in Australia so can't really comment as I've not yet seen the game but going by the account you've given I have to ask why didn't Fulham score double figures ? promised land
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10:18pm Wed 26 Dec 12

slugger says...

Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore .
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore . slugger
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10:24pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Right, watched the highlights of the first half, and Rickie was certainly not lazy and set up a series of five different passes to other players who all wasted their opportunities, Puncheon and Ramirez the main culprits, not taking shots when the opportunity was given to them. Yes KD did play pat a cake with the clearance to Berbatov, but Fonte was "napping", a stronger CB would have crunched him, as I said earlier, we are too nice, and boy did it rain just before half time.
Right, watched the highlights of the first half, and Rickie was certainly not lazy and set up a series of five different passes to other players who all wasted their opportunities, Puncheon and Ramirez the main culprits, not taking shots when the opportunity was given to them. Yes KD did play pat a cake with the clearance to Berbatov, but Fonte was "napping", a stronger CB would have crunched him, as I said earlier, we are too nice, and boy did it rain just before half time. OSPREYSAINT
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10:24pm Wed 26 Dec 12

angus mc coatup says...

slugger wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore .
he's not a saintlysoul,he's a very naughty boy.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore .[/p][/quote]he's not a saintlysoul,he's a very naughty boy. angus mc coatup
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10:31pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Time for Football First Screen 3.
Watching it. Why do the players have black arm bands on? I've obviously missed the death of someone.
There was a minutes applause before the start, I thinkit was for Ian Black a goalkeeper who recently died aged 88 on 17th December who had played for both teams.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Time for Football First Screen 3.[/p][/quote]Watching it. Why do the players have black arm bands on? I've obviously missed the death of someone.[/p][/quote]There was a minutes applause before the start, I thinkit was for Ian Black a goalkeeper who recently died aged 88 on 17th December who had played for both teams. OSPREYSAINT
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10:41pm Wed 26 Dec 12

SaintPC says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
what nonsense. I am pleased you have an idea and opinion on what is going on, but to slate everything every player is doing, plus the subs, and the formation, and the supposed politics.....cheer up Ebeneezer, we have to realise where we are in the evolution of this club, you cannot sign 12 new players and expect the club to have continuity, so we sign 4/5 and hope they gel and the others grow into the league.

Make no mistake, the aim this year is to survive. Nothing more. Build in January, build further in the summer, turn over the squad in a sensible period of time and continue to bring on the youth prospects. This plan has been outlined numerous times, by NA, by NC, and by most sensible Saints fans. So to expect something different is the sign of someone a little out of touch with the club.....COYR
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]what nonsense. I am pleased you have an idea and opinion on what is going on, but to slate everything every player is doing, plus the subs, and the formation, and the supposed politics.....cheer up Ebeneezer, we have to realise where we are in the evolution of this club, you cannot sign 12 new players and expect the club to have continuity, so we sign 4/5 and hope they gel and the others grow into the league. Make no mistake, the aim this year is to survive. Nothing more. Build in January, build further in the summer, turn over the squad in a sensible period of time and continue to bring on the youth prospects. This plan has been outlined numerous times, by NA, by NC, and by most sensible Saints fans. So to expect something different is the sign of someone a little out of touch with the club.....COYR SaintPC
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10:47pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OK no doubt about the handball for the penalty, and what a blaster from Rickie.
OK no doubt about the handball for the penalty, and what a blaster from Rickie. OSPREYSAINT
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10:47pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It wasn't lucky, it was a Pen and what a powerful strike!
It wasn't lucky, it was a Pen and what a powerful strike! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:51pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Don't think Rambos shot crossed the line, but no camera on the line so can't tell. We were a much better team in the 2nd half, and deserved the point.
Don't think Rambos shot crossed the line, but no camera on the line so can't tell. We were a much better team in the 2nd half, and deserved the point. OSPREYSAINT
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10:57pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly. Tirau Dan
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11:02pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rickie seems to be trying to be three different players at the same time, his ground passes were good today, Senderos was giving him a hard time and the high balls were all being blown all over the place and difficult to control, but his defensive work was sound when needed..
Rickie seems to be trying to be three different players at the same time, his ground passes were good today, Senderos was giving him a hard time and the high balls were all being blown all over the place and difficult to control, but his defensive work was sound when needed.. OSPREYSAINT
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11:03pm Wed 26 Dec 12

florida saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
respect to you warrens, i go through similar situatios out here in florida.
the spare room might be a good idea to sleep the hangover off. seeing your name reminded me when millwall got the shock of their lifes coming into the warrens . u t s.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]respect to you warrens, i go through similar situatios out here in florida. the spare room might be a good idea to sleep the hangover off. seeing your name reminded me when millwall got the shock of their lifes coming into the warrens . u t s. florida saint
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11:03pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SaintPC wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side.

Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product.

Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently.

Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.'

Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot.

NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why?

Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace.

I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'.

I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January!

Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!!
what nonsense. I am pleased you have an idea and opinion on what is going on, but to slate everything every player is doing, plus the subs, and the formation, and the supposed politics.....cheer up Ebeneezer, we have to realise where we are in the evolution of this club, you cannot sign 12 new players and expect the club to have continuity, so we sign 4/5 and hope they gel and the others grow into the league.

Make no mistake, the aim this year is to survive. Nothing more. Build in January, build further in the summer, turn over the squad in a sensible period of time and continue to bring on the youth prospects. This plan has been outlined numerous times, by NA, by NC, and by most sensible Saints fans. So to expect something different is the sign of someone a little out of touch with the club.....COYR
What a spot on post. Anyone thinking differently lacks realism.
[quote][p][bold]SaintPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and although we managed a point it was a very disappointing performance from a mediocre Saints side. Our midfield was IMO very poor. Spider and Davis were non-existant; Cork was erratic and Gaston I'm afraid is an absolute waste of space and money. He does the odd bit of fancy foot work but no end product. Clyne was poor; Yoshida awful; Fonte seems to want to hoof everything and Shaw today apart from doing a couple of good runs made mistakes in defending no doubt he's tiring having played a lot recently. Lambert again looks lazy, overweight and his body language says 'its all too much bother.' Puncheon has gone off following recent good displays he would be so much better if he could use his right foot. NA appears not to have a clue. He waited and waited until he brought two subs on Rodriguez and Guly. Why? Why oh why when the mid field are so poor will NA not use JWP? He was on the bench! E couldn't have done any worse than Spider, Davis and Ramirez!!!! I think as far as JWP is concerned there are probably political reasons as to why he's not playing if that is the case it's a disgrace. I noticed that Fox travelled today. No doubt he will replace Shaw against Stoke and NA will rearrange the bench - his way of 'utilising the squad over the festive season'. I'm very concerned at this rate Saints are going one way - down. I hope I'm wrong. Cortèse needs to spend in January! Finally 10 / 10 to the Saint fans today they sung their hearts out in the second half - excellent!!!!![/p][/quote]what nonsense. I am pleased you have an idea and opinion on what is going on, but to slate everything every player is doing, plus the subs, and the formation, and the supposed politics.....cheer up Ebeneezer, we have to realise where we are in the evolution of this club, you cannot sign 12 new players and expect the club to have continuity, so we sign 4/5 and hope they gel and the others grow into the league. Make no mistake, the aim this year is to survive. Nothing more. Build in January, build further in the summer, turn over the squad in a sensible period of time and continue to bring on the youth prospects. This plan has been outlined numerous times, by NA, by NC, and by most sensible Saints fans. So to expect something different is the sign of someone a little out of touch with the club.....COYR[/p][/quote]What a spot on post. Anyone thinking differently lacks realism. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:20pm Wed 26 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
slugger wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore .
he's not a saintlysoul,he's a very naughty boy.
It is odd that when he first posted under this name I remember that I suggested he change "saintly" for an R but I can't remember what the issue was at the time except that it was a negative/derogatory posting.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]He's a stealth wum , spreading negativity , best to ignore .[/p][/quote]he's not a saintlysoul,he's a very naughty boy.[/p][/quote]It is odd that when he first posted under this name I remember that I suggested he change "saintly" for an R but I can't remember what the issue was at the time except that it was a negative/derogatory posting. OSPREYSAINT
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11:57pm Wed 26 Dec 12

RedArmy1 says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR RedArmy1
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12:07am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that. OSPREYSAINT
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12:08am Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please).

PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA!
I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please). PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA! Baddesley Bill
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12:11am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses ghk230473
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12:13am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just watched MoTD and some better GKs than KD made some real howlers today, it is not a unique phenomenon!
Just watched MoTD and some better GKs than KD made some real howlers today, it is not a unique phenomenon! OSPREYSAINT
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12:17am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion. OSPREYSAINT
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12:22am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please).

PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA!
I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please). PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA![/p][/quote]I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it. OSPREYSAINT
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12:22am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up.
You would have more luck defending jimmy saville
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion.[/p][/quote]He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up. You would have more luck defending jimmy saville ghk230473
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12:25am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please).

PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA!
I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it.
You can use my thick marker pen!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please). PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA![/p][/quote]I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it.[/p][/quote]You can use my thick marker pen! ghk230473
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12:27am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please).

PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA!
I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it.
You can use my thick marker pen!
Thick for you marks the spot.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm thinking our possession game might do us well against Stoke on Saturday. I'd take a 0-0 draw tbh, but all three points will do nicely thanks (and the clean sheet please). PS I'm glad I don't have to choose our goalie for the game....over to you NA![/p][/quote]I would play Gazza, predominantly because his extra height would be useful against "tall" if he plays, not Davis because GHK doesn't rate him and he knows everything there is to know about football, pass me a stamp and I'll scribble what I know about football on it.[/p][/quote]You can use my thick marker pen![/p][/quote]Thick for you marks the spot. OSPREYSAINT
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12:28am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Have you ever kept goal?
Have you ever kept goal? OSPREYSAINT
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12:31am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up.
You would have more luck defending jimmy saville
Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion.[/p][/quote]He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up. You would have more luck defending jimmy saville[/p][/quote]Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold. OSPREYSAINT
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12:33am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Have you ever kept goal?
Jimmy saville is innocent!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Have you ever kept goal?[/p][/quote]Jimmy saville is innocent! ghk230473
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12:37am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Have you ever kept goal?
Jimmy saville is innocent!
That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Have you ever kept goal?[/p][/quote]Jimmy saville is innocent![/p][/quote]That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus. OSPREYSAINT
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12:40am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Have you ever kept goal?
Jimmy saville is innocent!
That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus.
Any bus your on is full of window lickers!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Have you ever kept goal?[/p][/quote]Jimmy saville is innocent![/p][/quote]That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus.[/p][/quote]Any bus your on is full of window lickers! ghk230473
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12:41am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Have you ever kept goal?
Jimmy saville is innocent!
That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus.
Any bus your on is full of window lickers!
Are you drunk again?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Have you ever kept goal?[/p][/quote]Jimmy saville is innocent![/p][/quote]That's appaling bad taste, you cannot defend the indefensible, get back to talking positives about the Club or get off the bus.[/p][/quote]Any bus your on is full of window lickers![/p][/quote]Are you drunk again? OSPREYSAINT
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12:46am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao! ghk230473
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12:48am Thu 27 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up.
You would have more luck defending jimmy saville
Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.
I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion.[/p][/quote]He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up. You would have more luck defending jimmy saville[/p][/quote]Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.[/p][/quote]I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal. Strasbourg Saint
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12:52am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Lost me there, Ruprect? Bob Ruprecht perhaps, wasn't he a local Police Inspector who was involved in the Air Support Unit?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Lost me there, Ruprect? Bob Ruprecht perhaps, wasn't he a local Police Inspector who was involved in the Air Support Unit? OSPREYSAINT
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12:53am Thu 27 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world. Strasbourg Saint
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1:06am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him. ghk230473
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1:11am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game? OSPREYSAINT
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1:16am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back! ghk230473
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1:17am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back![/p][/quote]Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen.......... OSPREYSAINT
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1:21am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........
So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back![/p][/quote]Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........[/p][/quote]So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along! ghk230473
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1:28am Thu 27 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up.
You would have more luck defending jimmy saville
Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.
I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal.
whats done is done we have move on but the defence have to stop the easy cross and have to mark their strikers.. That is pretty basic. It is like a bowlers outswinger or quick ball.. once a game gets the result. we just have to learn to pick it and counter.
The blame game is bs.. doesn't do fans credit and doesn't help a bit.
Who's next?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion.[/p][/quote]He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up. You would have more luck defending jimmy saville[/p][/quote]Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.[/p][/quote]I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal.[/p][/quote]whats done is done we have move on but the defence have to stop the easy cross and have to mark their strikers.. That is pretty basic. It is like a bowlers outswinger or quick ball.. once a game gets the result. we just have to learn to pick it and counter. The blame game is bs.. doesn't do fans credit and doesn't help a bit. Who's next? Tirau Dan
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1:30am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........
So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along!
Just plain stupid, go to bed.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back![/p][/quote]Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........[/p][/quote]So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along![/p][/quote]Just plain stupid, go to bed. OSPREYSAINT
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1:36am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........
So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along!
Just plain stupid, go to bed.
You'd like that......... Hmmmm hmmmm
Night jimmy 2, til next time
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back![/p][/quote]Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........[/p][/quote]So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along![/p][/quote]Just plain stupid, go to bed.[/p][/quote]You'd like that......... Hmmmm hmmmm Night jimmy 2, til next time ghk230473
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1:36am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Nicole23 wrote:
Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped.
I see Sunderland played the same game against City.
We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.
Back from the game !!

You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third !

THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ...

Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same

INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day.

The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety.

Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post.

Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level.

The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.
Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal.

IT WAS A HOWLER !!

If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down.

COYR
Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.
Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp!
Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses
Not in my opinion.
He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up.
You would have more luck defending jimmy saville
Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.
I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal.
whats done is done we have move on but the defence have to stop the easy cross and have to mark their strikers.. That is pretty basic. It is like a bowlers outswinger or quick ball.. once a game gets the result. we just have to learn to pick it and counter.
The blame game is bs.. doesn't do fans credit and doesn't help a bit.
Who's next?
Regretfully, some people cannot forgive or forget. I have experienced the blame culture at work for years, it never solved a single problem.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Another brace for Billy Sharp today, glad results went our way but still 5 points dropped. I see Sunderland played the same game against City. We need to get Billy back, do not sell him, Gaston put some nice balls in but nobody has the vision or skill to get on the end of them.[/p][/quote]Back from the game !! You're right everyone seems to get muscled out in the final third ! THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON would be above wet spam in the table if we had a Top Quality Keeper ... Kelvin is not good enough - Gazza has cost us points - Boruc is the same INVEST TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Against Fulham - after the softest goal you will ever see that we conceded - we had to chase the game and only the Crowd in the second half and a phenomenal effort by the Players saved the Day. The sooner Nigel acknowledges this - the sooner Southampton will move to mid table safety. Kelvin talks a good job and can spend all day training and catching simple balls - but it counts for nothing !! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]basic marking errors at the back make us vulnerable to cross and shot especially as Kelv won't come out. that's two in two games easy goals unmarked strikers standing outside box in front of the left post. Up front there is no one crossing or delivering the ball to Rickie and Rickie is way to slow to get onto loose ball or make gaps on his own at this level. The quick little passing isn't getting through and isn't likely to. Even with Aguera Tevez Ba or Van Persie you still have to bang the ball in front of them for them to bang it in. We are not doing it for Rickie... but have to say Rickie was rarely in position to receive it he was off fluffing around in the wings or trying to be a midfielder. Tell me I'm wrong.. honestly.[/p][/quote]Kelv should have done a lot better for the goal. IT WAS A HOWLER !! If the keepers continue to be error prone - they will send us down. COYR[/p][/quote]Look at it a bit deeper, we lost possession too easily, Shaw didn't prevent the cross, the ball was greasy and not catchable, it fell fortunately to a very good finisher, Fonte was dozing and could have got a block in, it wasn't just KDs mistake, it was a lot more than that.[/p][/quote]Osprey what you know about football can be written on the back of a stamp! Go away and have a word with yourself. Davis has dived for it for Christ sake and completely fukced it up, like Jesus he doesn't like crosses[/p][/quote]Not in my opinion.[/p][/quote]He's got gloves on for a reason! No one around, he didn't need to commit himself but chose to and messed up. You would have more luck defending jimmy saville[/p][/quote]Lots of players are wearing gloves these days and they ain't goalkeepers, just wimps whose puddies are cold.[/p][/quote]I'm with Osprey on this one. It's not that Kelv covered himself in glory, he made an error, but the point Osprey is correctly making is that others around him contributed to the goal.[/p][/quote]whats done is done we have move on but the defence have to stop the easy cross and have to mark their strikers.. That is pretty basic. It is like a bowlers outswinger or quick ball.. once a game gets the result. we just have to learn to pick it and counter. The blame game is bs.. doesn't do fans credit and doesn't help a bit. Who's next?[/p][/quote]Regretfully, some people cannot forgive or forget. I have experienced the blame culture at work for years, it never solved a single problem. OSPREYSAINT
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1:37am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye!
Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao!
Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off.

Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.
Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.
I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?
Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back!
Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........
So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along!
Just plain stupid, go to bed.
You'd like that......... Hmmmm hmmmm
Night jimmy 2, til next time
No comment.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: I'd better have that pen back before you stab yourself in the eye! Good luck with defending the indefensible Ruprect! Lmfao![/p][/quote]Calm down, ghk, you're in danger of doing that Jekyll and Hyde impression again which pees many of us off. Just stick to stating what you think and all will be well with the world.[/p][/quote]Thought I was. Davis was to blame and osprey doesn't know much about football and on a bus licking windows, I took the pen off him.[/p][/quote]I said that Davis made a mistake, what don't you understand about that? I also said that others were culpable too, not too difficult to understand is it, yet you chose to accuse anyone that doesn't match your opinion are retards. I asked if you ever kept goal, no answer, so what experience have you got in the game?[/p][/quote]Alright, If you sit nicely you can have the pen back![/p][/quote]Don't tempt me, you know where you can stick your pen..........[/p][/quote]So jimmy is innocent and it was you all along![/p][/quote]Just plain stupid, go to bed.[/p][/quote]You'd like that......... Hmmmm hmmmm Night jimmy 2, til next time[/p][/quote]No comment. OSPREYSAINT
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2:15am Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
It was something I dreamt up whilst queuing for a pie!!!!!! If you believe that you're simple. The man has a medial ligament tear to his knee. It takes time to heal. End of February probably at the earliest!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]It was something I dreamt up whilst queuing for a pie!!!!!! If you believe that you're simple. The man has a medial ligament tear to his knee. It takes time to heal. End of February probably at the earliest!!!!!!!!!!!! !! saintlysoul
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4:33am Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

florida saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again).
The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice!
respect to you warrens, i go through similar situatios out here in florida.
the spare room might be a good idea to sleep the hangover off. seeing your name reminded me when millwall got the shock of their lifes coming into the warrens . u t s.
Harry the dog down the stairs...I was there!
A certain DB moved to Florida..top bloke..is it you.
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We have just finsihed a christmas dinner with friends in Montreux....I had my mac on stream for the game and convienently positioned myself to view the proceedings can honestly say no player was fouled as often as i was, my wife kicked the 5hit out of me..i bought a red xmas card to the table bit instead of leaving she kicked the ref (me again). The shout when we equalised deafened and frightened the (rap out out of them...game up..the spare room looks nice![/p][/quote]respect to you warrens, i go through similar situatios out here in florida. the spare room might be a good idea to sleep the hangover off. seeing your name reminded me when millwall got the shock of their lifes coming into the warrens . u t s.[/p][/quote]Harry the dog down the stairs...I was there! A certain DB moved to Florida..top bloke..is it you. warrens 76
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6:38am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.
This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!!
Of course everyone has the right to their opinion.

Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue.
You really think of this thread as a school playground, don't you. You bait the skates, thereby encouraging them to take this p out of you all, which they do in a more inventive fashion than any of you are capable of. And then you go crying to teacher!

As for credibility, have you lost the plot? You act like people have to prove themselves to the likes of you. Really?

No offense, but I could care less what the likes of you think. There are people on this thread that I'm genuinely interested in hearing their opinions. You and the rest of the Stepford wives, not being among them!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.[/p][/quote]This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Of course everyone has the right to their opinion. Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue.[/p][/quote]You really think of this thread as a school playground, don't you. You bait the skates, thereby encouraging them to take this p out of you all, which they do in a more inventive fashion than any of you are capable of. And then you go crying to teacher! As for credibility, have you lost the plot? You act like people have to prove themselves to the likes of you. Really? No offense, but I could care less what the likes of you think. There are people on this thread that I'm genuinely interested in hearing their opinions. You and the rest of the Stepford wives, not being among them! Bring back Branfoot
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6:41am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.
Preaching to the choir BbB...we hold the ball and to what end...hold the ball forever if that is required but do not repeat do not hoof it to the opposition and pleeese think ahead and cut them up ..how many teams have ahd one or two efforts all game and come away with three points...in other words SFC when you pass it around have a point...happy with 'the' point.
Thank God we have fans like you who understand where we are going wrong! They don’t want to hear anything negative. Even when supporters of other teams, who have only seen us play a few times this season, are saying we’re way to slow in the final third.

The mantra, that they keep chanting to themselves is “Nigel’s doing a good job, he’ll turn it round’.

Slowly, some of then are admitting we were correct, but they hate having to concede that they didn’t identify a patently obvious weakness in our game play.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: And a note to NA. The slow, short passing game is only of use if you’re the 82 Brazil team or seeing out a game that you are winning. Let’s mix up our play a bit and keep the opposition defense on its toes. We are way too predictable. We shouldn’t be allowing defenses to always keep their shape. In the final third, let’s be more decisive. Play some direct stuff, some longer passes for the forwards to run onto. Get the players to make some telling runs! And don’t resort to the long ball when all else fails.[/p][/quote]Preaching to the choir BbB...we hold the ball and to what end...hold the ball forever if that is required but do not repeat do not hoof it to the opposition and pleeese think ahead and cut them up ..how many teams have ahd one or two efforts all game and come away with three points...in other words SFC when you pass it around have a point...happy with 'the' point.[/p][/quote]Thank God we have fans like you who understand where we are going wrong! They don’t want to hear anything negative. Even when supporters of other teams, who have only seen us play a few times this season, are saying we’re way to slow in the final third. The mantra, that they keep chanting to themselves is “Nigel’s doing a good job, he’ll turn it round’. Slowly, some of then are admitting we were correct, but they hate having to concede that they didn’t identify a patently obvious weakness in our game play. Bring back Branfoot
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6:45am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
mack chinnon wrote: We were shocking.
Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.
We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.
True. But we were very predictable.
Exactly what I've been saying for two months!

It beggars belief, how fans who CLAIM to attend home or away games, hadn’t noticed our slow build up play, earlier. A lot of fans who don’t post on here, along with myself, noticed it within a few weeks!

You happy clappers bang on about players individual performances, which a two year old could do, but the blatantly obvious problem with our attacking speed and decisiveness, you missed! Thank God this thread is not of a national newspaper, the embarrassment you would cause us all, would be immense!
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: We were shocking.[/p][/quote]Surely, we weren't that bad! Not at our best, definitely, but 'shocking', no.[/p][/quote]We also came back from a goal down and got a point, which is not to be sniffed at.[/p][/quote]True. But we were very predictable.[/p][/quote]Exactly what I've been saying for two months! It beggars belief, how fans who CLAIM to attend home or away games, hadn’t noticed our slow build up play, earlier. A lot of fans who don’t post on here, along with myself, noticed it within a few weeks! You happy clappers bang on about players individual performances, which a two year old could do, but the blatantly obvious problem with our attacking speed and decisiveness, you missed! Thank God this thread is not of a national newspaper, the embarrassment you would cause us all, would be immense! Bring back Branfoot
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7:34am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough? Bring back Branfoot
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8:14am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed. OSPREYSAINT
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8:15am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window.
Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are.
Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window. Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are. Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same. ghk230473
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8:44am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We weren’t shocking, but we were poor.

Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season.

Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible!

Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing!
You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.
This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!!
Of course everyone has the right to their opinion.

Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue.
You really think of this thread as a school playground, don't you. You bait the skates, thereby encouraging them to take this p out of you all, which they do in a more inventive fashion than any of you are capable of. And then you go crying to teacher!

As for credibility, have you lost the plot? You act like people have to prove themselves to the likes of you. Really?

No offense, but I could care less what the likes of you think. There are people on this thread that I'm genuinely interested in hearing their opinions. You and the rest of the Stepford wives, not being among them!
You are very judgemental, pro skate, narrow minded, often abusive and fairly often incorrect, that is your right, those that disagree with you will say so, ad nauseum because we believe in being positive, we want to encourage the whole team, we want to forgive their shortcomings, we ask them to put it right as best as they can. We see little point in slagging any Saints player off when they get it wrong, because it will have no affect on the situation whatsoever. They (the players) are intelligent enough to know when they have got it wrong, they will try a lot harder knowing that we are behind them, no matter what. Our away crowd are amazing, they are the backbone of the Club, follow their example, not the members 20,000+ at home games who boo, jeer and criticise, walk out before the end, e.t.c., some of whom expected us to walk the Premier as soon as we got into it, conveniently forgetting that we got there before the plan had fully evolved. It is going to take time and some astute signings to make an impact on one of the best Leagues in the World. Patience is required, any lack of belief is damaging, make your point, but don't call me a retard because I have a different view, if you are a genuine Southampton fan, (and some are doubting you), you should get behind the Club, their Chairman and their Manager, if in time we fail, the time will come when change will happen and you will be quite right to say "I told you so". This is not the time to be weak hearted.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We weren’t shocking, but we were poor. Nigel Adkins probably won’t be with us by the summer, defiantly not by this time next year. The Liebherr family don’t strike me as fools, they’re not going to bankroll a manager in the manner they have with Nigel, to see performances like we have seen this season. Now the happy clappers will cough up their usual glib comments following a poor performance, such as, onwards and upwards, bring on Stoke and Arsenal! While desperately trying to prove their loyalty to the club, they are sweeping under the carpet the obvious, our build up play is way too slow allowing opposition defenses to always keep their shape and competently deal with our attacks. We wasted the chance to properly strengthen the squad in the summer and we have a manager who is out of his depth. He couldn’t even settle on a keeper in pre season, trying three in the first seven games of the season, incredible! Now, it’s understandable that after back to back promotions, fans feel that he is due the opportunity to turn things round, and quite right! But I doubt after the war chest they gave NA, our club will ever get the chance to spend so much in such a short period of time without seeing results. We are missing the chance to establish ourselves as a permanent fixture in the Premier League, vying for a Europa cup place. Which a club of our size and potential, should be doing![/p][/quote]You really are boring, and know nothing about about football. Thanks for your contribution.[/p][/quote]This is an embarrassing response to what was a thoughtful and insightful post. Why when people don't agree with a post do they have to be gratuitous and personal? It reflects bad on them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone will agree with it, but for God sake respect a persons right to express themself!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Of course everyone has the right to their opinion. Unfortunately some one who calls themselves 'Bring back Branfoot' after the most hated manager we've ever had isn't off to a good start. With someone else it could be just humour but his appearance co-incided with the banning of a couple of skunts and therefore looked like a re-appearance. Then he immediately sided with skunts against Saints fans, something I've never ever seen before. It's a credibility issue not an opinion issue.[/p][/quote]You really think of this thread as a school playground, don't you. You bait the skates, thereby encouraging them to take this p out of you all, which they do in a more inventive fashion than any of you are capable of. And then you go crying to teacher! As for credibility, have you lost the plot? You act like people have to prove themselves to the likes of you. Really? No offense, but I could care less what the likes of you think. There are people on this thread that I'm genuinely interested in hearing their opinions. You and the rest of the Stepford wives, not being among them![/p][/quote]You are very judgemental, pro skate, narrow minded, often abusive and fairly often incorrect, that is your right, those that disagree with you will say so, ad nauseum because we believe in being positive, we want to encourage the whole team, we want to forgive their shortcomings, we ask them to put it right as best as they can. We see little point in slagging any Saints player off when they get it wrong, because it will have no affect on the situation whatsoever. They (the players) are intelligent enough to know when they have got it wrong, they will try a lot harder knowing that we are behind them, no matter what. Our away crowd are amazing, they are the backbone of the Club, follow their example, not the members 20,000+ at home games who boo, jeer and criticise, walk out before the end, e.t.c., some of whom expected us to walk the Premier as soon as we got into it, conveniently forgetting that we got there before the plan had fully evolved. It is going to take time and some astute signings to make an impact on one of the best Leagues in the World. Patience is required, any lack of belief is damaging, make your point, but don't call me a retard because I have a different view, if you are a genuine Southampton fan, (and some are doubting you), you should get behind the Club, their Chairman and their Manager, if in time we fail, the time will come when change will happen and you will be quite right to say "I told you so". This is not the time to be weak hearted. OSPREYSAINT
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8:51am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window.
Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are.
Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same.
Good morning GHK, sober now? That is a very good post, I agree with you 100%, and even with Gerrard in the side yesterday, Liverpool were beaten by a team that played honest football despite not having any real star names, it can be done. NA has made a fair number of tactical blunders this Season, it is almost all down to lack of Premier experience rather than ineptitude, but he is learning from his mistakes, he has to if we are to survive.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window. Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are. Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same.[/p][/quote]Good morning GHK, sober now? That is a very good post, I agree with you 100%, and even with Gerrard in the side yesterday, Liverpool were beaten by a team that played honest football despite not having any real star names, it can be done. NA has made a fair number of tactical blunders this Season, it is almost all down to lack of Premier experience rather than ineptitude, but he is learning from his mistakes, he has to if we are to survive. OSPREYSAINT
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8:55am Thu 27 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
I dont know what the answer is now but I think that more tinkering might not help, it could make things worse.
I still believe we had a winning team and pulled it apart somehow, you can say they were not good enough for the prem but they were a team.
30 mill has been spent, on what? You cant see it. Yes we should have spent big on 1 goalie, but I still think Boruc could have a a part to play with his experience, he is fiery so what and a top central defender or 2.
At the moment we dont need a midfield because we keep punting it up, why cant we keep posession?
Still think we will stay up though, but it will have to be seen if Adkins survives Jan, sorry to say it.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]I dont know what the answer is now but I think that more tinkering might not help, it could make things worse. I still believe we had a winning team and pulled it apart somehow, you can say they were not good enough for the prem but they were a team. 30 mill has been spent, on what? You cant see it. Yes we should have spent big on 1 goalie, but I still think Boruc could have a a part to play with his experience, he is fiery so what and a top central defender or 2. At the moment we dont need a midfield because we keep punting it up, why cant we keep posession? Still think we will stay up though, but it will have to be seen if Adkins survives Jan, sorry to say it. Nicole23
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8:59am Thu 27 Dec 12

Abbey Saint says...

Saints have the current owners and CEO until at least next season. We have the current squad until the end of this month and probably until near the end of January. Even then it will change only slightly with maybe 1/2 new players. We have Adkins until he or Cortese chooses otherwise.
Have we exceeded expectations since Adkins joined? Of course. Can we still improve? Undoubtedly. Are we more likely to improve with Adkins than anyone else who is either available or affordable? Probably. I don't buy the arguements of those who constantly advocate changes in management personnel and tactics as a means to improvement. I see Saints today as similar to Liverpool when they started their rise under Shankly - look it up if you don't know the story. Liverpool were an average second tier team and Shankly was a newish manager with no track record of managing 'big' teams in the big league of the day. He was allowed time to develop his knowledge and the team, and apply his methods and tactics. He stayed 15 years, winning the league 3 times and the FA cup twice.
Saints have the current owners and CEO until at least next season. We have the current squad until the end of this month and probably until near the end of January. Even then it will change only slightly with maybe 1/2 new players. We have Adkins until he or Cortese chooses otherwise. Have we exceeded expectations since Adkins joined? Of course. Can we still improve? Undoubtedly. Are we more likely to improve with Adkins than anyone else who is either available or affordable? Probably. I don't buy the arguements of those who constantly advocate changes in management personnel and tactics as a means to improvement. I see Saints today as similar to Liverpool when they started their rise under Shankly - look it up if you don't know the story. Liverpool were an average second tier team and Shankly was a newish manager with no track record of managing 'big' teams in the big league of the day. He was allowed time to develop his knowledge and the team, and apply his methods and tactics. He stayed 15 years, winning the league 3 times and the FA cup twice. Abbey Saint
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9:14am Thu 27 Dec 12

puppy saint says...

Some people work in football whilst others post about it on a local paper's forum. For some to provide advice to the others is a source of much amusement to me. Some people love the smell of their own f@rts.
Some people work in football whilst others post about it on a local paper's forum. For some to provide advice to the others is a source of much amusement to me. Some people love the smell of their own f@rts. puppy saint
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9:20am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.
Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring. ghk230473
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9:22am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

puppy saint wrote:
Some people work in football whilst others post about it on a local paper's forum. For some to provide advice to the others is a source of much amusement to me. Some people love the smell of their own f@rts.
The advice is free, you can't ask for your money back if it is wrong, but you can put up a reasonable argument for or against, that is what a Forum is for. What do your boffs smell like, don't you like them either? Those sprouts certainly did it for me, but not popular with others in the room, I just blamed the dog.
[quote][p][bold]puppy saint[/bold] wrote: Some people work in football whilst others post about it on a local paper's forum. For some to provide advice to the others is a source of much amusement to me. Some people love the smell of their own f@rts.[/p][/quote]The advice is free, you can't ask for your money back if it is wrong, but you can put up a reasonable argument for or against, that is what a Forum is for. What do your boffs smell like, don't you like them either? Those sprouts certainly did it for me, but not popular with others in the room, I just blamed the dog. OSPREYSAINT
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9:24am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.
I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.[/p][/quote]I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring! OSPREYSAINT
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9:38am Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.
I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring!
He supports villa, how boring can u get?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.[/p][/quote]I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring![/p][/quote]He supports villa, how boring can u get? ghk230473
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10:45am Thu 27 Dec 12

rocketone says...

Di Matteo sacked because fourth isn't good enough. Rafa only a temp!
Joe Hart dives over a shot?
Rob Green slaps the ball into his own net. Irish international centreback John O'Shea slides ball into own net. Darren Bent , England international cannot get into Villa team who cannot score.
And all the posters think Nigel hasn't a clue and they could all do it better!?!?
Funny old game football, the messiah who could have been(arry) has stopped the rot at QPR ? I don't think !
Stop grizzling.
All I wanted was to get back to the Prem and have a fighting chance.
We got it!
Di Matteo sacked because fourth isn't good enough. Rafa only a temp! Joe Hart dives over a shot? Rob Green slaps the ball into his own net. Irish international centreback John O'Shea slides ball into own net. Darren Bent , England international cannot get into Villa team who cannot score. And all the posters think Nigel hasn't a clue and they could all do it better!?!? Funny old game football, the messiah who could have been(arry) has stopped the rot at QPR ? I don't think ! Stop grizzling. All I wanted was to get back to the Prem and have a fighting chance. We got it! rocketone
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10:51am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Nicole23 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
I dont know what the answer is now but I think that more tinkering might not help, it could make things worse.
I still believe we had a winning team and pulled it apart somehow, you can say they were not good enough for the prem but they were a team.
30 mill has been spent, on what? You cant see it. Yes we should have spent big on 1 goalie, but I still think Boruc could have a a part to play with his experience, he is fiery so what and a top central defender or 2.
At the moment we dont need a midfield because we keep punting it up, why cant we keep posession?
Still think we will stay up though, but it will have to be seen if Adkins survives Jan, sorry to say it.
I totally agree with you that more tinkering may not help.

I think for large chunks of the season we have been able to keep possession, but without an end result. But in recent games, as you say, we are long balling it.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]I dont know what the answer is now but I think that more tinkering might not help, it could make things worse. I still believe we had a winning team and pulled it apart somehow, you can say they were not good enough for the prem but they were a team. 30 mill has been spent, on what? You cant see it. Yes we should have spent big on 1 goalie, but I still think Boruc could have a a part to play with his experience, he is fiery so what and a top central defender or 2. At the moment we dont need a midfield because we keep punting it up, why cant we keep posession? Still think we will stay up though, but it will have to be seen if Adkins survives Jan, sorry to say it.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you that more tinkering may not help. I think for large chunks of the season we have been able to keep possession, but without an end result. But in recent games, as you say, we are long balling it. Bring back Branfoot
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10:55am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window.
Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are.
Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same.
I totally agree that changing managers, on a whim, is fruitless.And fair enough on your shout about giving him this transfer window to sort it. He did get us back to back promotions. But I hope he purchases players with the intention of them playing a regular first team role.

Out of all the signings NA has made in the last eleven months, only three are first team regulars, Clyne, Ramírez and Yoshida. And Ramirez, whilst a quality player, hasn’t, as yet, proved worthy of his price tag and that he can make the necessary impact we need him to this season. And Yoshy, looking better with every game, but!

The other seven, Sharp, Lee, Davis, Gazza, Boruc, Jrod and Mayuka, have been unable to establish themselves, in a team battling relegation! That’s a transfer success rate that doesn’t breed confidence! It’s the equivalent to trying different door handles and seeing which one opens.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]I think you've answered your own questions....... Shaw, lallana, clyne, cork, Ramirez, lambert, puncheon jwp, spiderman are probably all premier league class players be it some are in experienced. We just need to tinker in the transfer window. Adkins has made a lot of mistakes IMO both tactically and financially but is it any good chopping and changing managers, he deserves this window at least to get things right. Qpr I seem to remember when promoted bought in almost a new squad and reportedly have no team spirit and look where they are. Do agree we need to up the tempo to our play and have urgency, lallana has that and is missed. Take gerrard out of the liverpool team and you have the same.[/p][/quote]I totally agree that changing managers, on a whim, is fruitless.And fair enough on your shout about giving him this transfer window to sort it. He did get us back to back promotions. But I hope he purchases players with the intention of them playing a regular first team role. Out of all the signings NA has made in the last eleven months, only three are first team regulars, Clyne, Ramírez and Yoshida. And Ramirez, whilst a quality player, hasn’t, as yet, proved worthy of his price tag and that he can make the necessary impact we need him to this season. And Yoshy, looking better with every game, but! The other seven, Sharp, Lee, Davis, Gazza, Boruc, Jrod and Mayuka, have been unable to establish themselves, in a team battling relegation! That’s a transfer success rate that doesn’t breed confidence! It’s the equivalent to trying different door handles and seeing which one opens. Bring back Branfoot
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11:00am Thu 27 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.[/p][/quote]J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS. Clever Dick
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11:02am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
I didn't say we didn't need anyone else, far from it. But he bought a lot of players who, for whatever reason, haven't figured in his plans, as far as becoming regular first team players. So why buy them in the first place?

And OSPers, I don't side with the skates, I have an aversion to people ganging up on others. There are people on here, who in a pack mentality, shout other Saints fans down, because they dare to disagree with the happy clapper song sheet.Doesn't fly with me!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.[/p][/quote]I didn't say we didn't need anyone else, far from it. But he bought a lot of players who, for whatever reason, haven't figured in his plans, as far as becoming regular first team players. So why buy them in the first place? And OSPers, I don't side with the skates, I have an aversion to people ganging up on others. There are people on here, who in a pack mentality, shout other Saints fans down, because they dare to disagree with the happy clapper song sheet.Doesn't fly with me! Bring back Branfoot
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11:03am Thu 27 Dec 12

rocketone says...

We have been promoted twice with a good team spirit lifting the players.
We have bought without destroying that team spirit.
Some of Nigel's purchases haven 't borne fruit, no big deal, it happens.
Read match reports on here from"supporters" who were at the game and their version is opposite to BBC Sky and some papers, who are neutral. How could that be? Shouldn't
supporters be biased in favour of their team?
I watched it on a laptop and thought we did ok and could have won with a little more belief towards the end of the game.
3 teams below us and 3 more just above all looking anxious.
Of them all we have to be the positive ones because that will keep us up!
We have been promoted twice with a good team spirit lifting the players. We have bought without destroying that team spirit. Some of Nigel's purchases haven 't borne fruit, no big deal, it happens. Read match reports on here from"supporters" who were at the game and their version is opposite to BBC Sky and some papers, who are neutral. How could that be? Shouldn't supporters be biased in favour of their team? I watched it on a laptop and thought we did ok and could have won with a little more belief towards the end of the game. 3 teams below us and 3 more just above all looking anxious. Of them all we have to be the positive ones because that will keep us up! rocketone
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11:06am Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

I see the Manager-Merry-Go-Rou
nd is working well at Blackburn then....

...perhaps their fans should have tried a little positivity?

...just a thought.
I see the Manager-Merry-Go-Rou nd is working well at Blackburn then.... ...perhaps their fans should have tried a little positivity? ...just a thought. Baddesley Bill
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11:15am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.
Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.[/p][/quote]J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.[/p][/quote]Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe. Bring back Branfoot
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11:20am Thu 27 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

rocketone wrote:
We have been promoted twice with a good team spirit lifting the players.
We have bought without destroying that team spirit.
Some of Nigel's purchases haven 't borne fruit, no big deal, it happens.
Read match reports on here from"supporters
" who were at the game and their version is opposite to BBC Sky and some papers, who are neutral. How could that be? Shouldn't
supporters be biased in favour of their team?
I watched it on a laptop and thought we did ok and could have won with a little more belief towards the end of the game.
3 teams below us and 3 more just above all looking anxious.
Of them all we have to be the positive ones because that will keep us up!
Agree. Never ceases to amaze me the way some people see games. Yesterday I thought Clyne and Shaw had bad days but central defence was solid. Yoshida is still only young and learning fast. Will be a great asset for the future. Some posters have criticised Cork and Spider. Thought Cork had a good game after giving the ball away early on and Spider did ok but is playing under the shadow of his fifth booking. Punch needs to step it up again too.We certainly could have won with a little more belief but we could also have lost too as they came close towards he end as well. Personally I've enjoyed the season so far. We played some great football early in the season and lost. Now it ain't so pretty but we are picking up points. COYS
[quote][p][bold]rocketone[/bold] wrote: We have been promoted twice with a good team spirit lifting the players. We have bought without destroying that team spirit. Some of Nigel's purchases haven 't borne fruit, no big deal, it happens. Read match reports on here from"supporters " who were at the game and their version is opposite to BBC Sky and some papers, who are neutral. How could that be? Shouldn't supporters be biased in favour of their team? I watched it on a laptop and thought we did ok and could have won with a little more belief towards the end of the game. 3 teams below us and 3 more just above all looking anxious. Of them all we have to be the positive ones because that will keep us up![/p][/quote]Agree. Never ceases to amaze me the way some people see games. Yesterday I thought Clyne and Shaw had bad days but central defence was solid. Yoshida is still only young and learning fast. Will be a great asset for the future. Some posters have criticised Cork and Spider. Thought Cork had a good game after giving the ball away early on and Spider did ok but is playing under the shadow of his fifth booking. Punch needs to step it up again too.We certainly could have won with a little more belief but we could also have lost too as they came close towards he end as well. Personally I've enjoyed the season so far. We played some great football early in the season and lost. Now it ain't so pretty but we are picking up points. COYS Clever Dick
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11:25am Thu 27 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.
Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe.
Because NA tells him who he would like and NC does the deal.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.[/p][/quote]J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.[/p][/quote]Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe.[/p][/quote]Because NA tells him who he would like and NC does the deal. Clever Dick
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11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. A good manager, squad and style of play permitting. Some of you may think that is crazy, fair enough! I hope Nigel can do it, those who say we shouldn’t be chopping and changing manager are spot on. But sorry chaps, I do think he’s had the spending power to help achieve it, but he squandered most of it.

And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. To me, it points to a manager out of his depth, at this level. Please Nigel, prove me wrong!

If we all agree that we need to speed our play up, why not have Ramírez, who has a lot of creativity, play in players with pace, such as JRod. Maybe this would help utilise both players strengths? But let's be more assertive in our play in the final third!
I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. A good manager, squad and style of play permitting. Some of you may think that is crazy, fair enough! I hope Nigel can do it, those who say we shouldn’t be chopping and changing manager are spot on. But sorry chaps, I do think he’s had the spending power to help achieve it, but he squandered most of it. And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. To me, it points to a manager out of his depth, at this level. Please Nigel, prove me wrong! If we all agree that we need to speed our play up, why not have Ramírez, who has a lot of creativity, play in players with pace, such as JRod. Maybe this would help utilise both players strengths? But let's be more assertive in our play in the final third! Bring back Branfoot
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11:39am Thu 27 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?'

Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have.

That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?' Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have. That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season. Rising_Son
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11:39am Thu 27 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?'

Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have.

That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?' Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have. That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season. Rising_Son
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11:41am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Is 57 days long enough to give a Manager a chance to do his job? Ask Blackburn. Your team beats Leeds 4 - 2 so you get the sack. Is it me or has football gone plum loco?
Is 57 days long enough to give a Manager a chance to do his job? Ask Blackburn. Your team beats Leeds 4 - 2 so you get the sack. Is it me or has football gone plum loco? OSPREYSAINT
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11:41am Thu 27 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?'

Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have.

That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.
At least, not as effectively going forward.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?' Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have. That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.[/p][/quote]At least, not as effectively going forward. Rising_Son
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11:46am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bring back Branfoot says...
11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12
I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place.

I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?
Bring back Branfoot says... 11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12 I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running? OSPREYSAINT
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11:51am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.
J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.
Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe.
Don't forget we have been proved not to be a Club that line Agents pockets, it's a fact of life that Agents have a strong influence on where players go, so it may be a case that our honest approach is to our detriment in the player signing stakes?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]As an opinion it is concrete enough, but some of us have a different view on it, that is our perogative, JRod was bought for the future, not the present, it was obvious from the rumour threads, that we were after a number of players, which for whatever reason didn't come to fruition, you say we already had Cork, Lallana and Lambert so we didn't need anyone else, have you forgotten that all three have been injured at some stage of the first half of the Season and it was when all three were playing that the results improved. Sorry I am not convinced that Butland is worth the ludicrous fee being demanded. We have another excellent opportunity in January to put things right, but I don't want to see good money spent on Prima Donnas that will upset the Dressing Room, you only have to look at QPR to see where that can go badly wrong. Your statement is valid but flawed.[/p][/quote]J Rod was one of the Championship players of the season. He will come good. Some of our signings are definitely better than what we had . Clyne was also one of the best in the Championship. I believe that NC and NA realise the difficult task we have in keeping Prem status after 2 consecutive promotions. Perhaps they are clever enough to realise that we might get relegated and have a team in place to get us straight back should the worst happen. Nigel was not at fault for not strengthening at the back. That was down to NC and we all know there were names in the frame that didn't happen. Given the ruthless nature of our chairman perhaps even he realises where the fault lay and that is why NA is still with us. Don't ever forget, however, that it is almost wholly down to NC for us being where we are today. He hasn't let us down yet and even he is allowed an odd mistake. He is also ruthless enough to refuse to let any of our better players go if he thinks we need to keep them.Anyway we arn't down yet. 2 or three good results on the bounce and we'll all be a lot happier. Villa are struggling, Fulham no great shakes, Wigan are due a relegation, so we live in hope. We have managed to get to the transfer window and are still in with a good chance of staying up. A couple of good signings and a lot could change. Next two games are toughies and if we get anything from them we will have done well. A good result at Villa very important. COYS.[/p][/quote]Why was NC responsible for not strengthening the back? Since when does he call the shots as to who is bought? I've heard this on the thread before, but find it hard to believe.[/p][/quote]Don't forget we have been proved not to be a Club that line Agents pockets, it's a fact of life that Agents have a strong influence on where players go, so it may be a case that our honest approach is to our detriment in the player signing stakes? OSPREYSAINT
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11:54am Thu 27 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot says...
11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12
I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place.

I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?
I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Bring back Branfoot says... 11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12 I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive. Rising_Son
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12:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward.



Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.
BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. [In my opinion:- ] Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to. OSPREYSAINT
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12:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?'

Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have.

That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.
Butland, I stand by, future England keeper. Give him time. But if you don't like him, how about Jason Steele? Let me guess, you're looking for a full international!

A player in the vain of Martín Demichelis, experienced tough defender playing for Malaga. Getting him would have been a stretch, but for a while there was talk of him maybe leaving. There are loads of players plying their trade in Europe, who are obviously good enough, but seeing that they might end up in the Championship, wouldn't sign now.

I wanted us to buy Ryan Bennett last year. We missed the boat on that.

Mark Hudson, Cardiff, experienced and having a good season. Should be able to get him cheap.

Thomas Ince. Absolute class, he'd create havoc for oppositions.

Wilfried Zaha, a striker who can also operate as a winger.

Btw, NA get's paid the big bucks to buy players, as well as a scouting system to aid him. Both you and I don't. So what's his excuse? And please answer the question?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?' Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have. That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.[/p][/quote]Butland, I stand by, future England keeper. Give him time. But if you don't like him, how about Jason Steele? Let me guess, you're looking for a full international! A player in the vain of Martín Demichelis, experienced tough defender playing for Malaga. Getting him would have been a stretch, but for a while there was talk of him maybe leaving. There are loads of players plying their trade in Europe, who are obviously good enough, but seeing that they might end up in the Championship, wouldn't sign now. I wanted us to buy Ryan Bennett last year. We missed the boat on that. Mark Hudson, Cardiff, experienced and having a good season. Should be able to get him cheap. Thomas Ince. Absolute class, he'd create havoc for oppositions. Wilfried Zaha, a striker who can also operate as a winger. Btw, NA get's paid the big bucks to buy players, as well as a scouting system to aid him. Both you and I don't. So what's his excuse? And please answer the question? Bring back Branfoot
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12:26pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

I remember when Bally became our manager in Jan 94, he pretty quickly started getting the best out of Matty. And then he brought in Ronnie Eklund, and he and Tiss played some wonderful stuff. Whose to say a new, manager, couldn’t change the system and get a lot more out of the players possessing a great deal of potential.

In the 91/92 season, we had the likes of Shearer, Tiss, Razor, Kenna, Doddy, Adams, Hurlock and Hall. A nice little blend, that underachieved, why? Because Branny thought by hoofing the ball forward we’d strike gold. Don’t tell me another manager wouldn’t have done better with that group.
I remember when Bally became our manager in Jan 94, he pretty quickly started getting the best out of Matty. And then he brought in Ronnie Eklund, and he and Tiss played some wonderful stuff. Whose to say a new, manager, couldn’t change the system and get a lot more out of the players possessing a great deal of potential. In the 91/92 season, we had the likes of Shearer, Tiss, Razor, Kenna, Doddy, Adams, Hurlock and Hall. A nice little blend, that underachieved, why? Because Branny thought by hoofing the ball forward we’d strike gold. Don’t tell me another manager wouldn’t have done better with that group. Bring back Branfoot
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12:35pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward.



Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.
So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success

What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. [In my opinion:- ] Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.[/p][/quote]So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me. Bring back Branfoot
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12:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot says...
11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12
I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place.

I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?
I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive.
Yes, but let's not forget that the trial and error process costs millions of pounds. Will it affect our buying power in the future if big money signings are deemed a faliure? Will NA and the family afford a future Saints manager so much spending power?

And chaps, I'm not saying we should have been vying for a Europa place this season, that would be crazy. But putting some firm building blocks in place, yes.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Bring back Branfoot says... 11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12 I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive.[/p][/quote]Yes, but let's not forget that the trial and error process costs millions of pounds. Will it affect our buying power in the future if big money signings are deemed a faliure? Will NA and the family afford a future Saints manager so much spending power? And chaps, I'm not saying we should have been vying for a Europa place this season, that would be crazy. But putting some firm building blocks in place, yes. Bring back Branfoot
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12:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

I have a flight to catch. I must say you all made some good points. I concede that I’m probably expecting too much. I still think he has made some big mistakes, one of which continues, with our style of play, way too slow.
I have a flight to catch. I must say you all made some good points. I concede that I’m probably expecting too much. I still think he has made some big mistakes, one of which continues, with our style of play, way too slow. Bring back Branfoot
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1:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

rossofficial10 says...

Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
thanks for this positive news mate! if this is true as im sure it is! im jumping with joy right now! much better team with him in it! having a baby this year and calling him adam lallana edwards!

sad eh? saints til i die!

ross ;)
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]thanks for this positive news mate! if this is true as im sure it is! im jumping with joy right now! much better team with him in it! having a baby this year and calling him adam lallana edwards! sad eh? saints til i die! ross ;) rossofficial10
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1:50pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club.

Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area.

As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have!
Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?
What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window?

We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him.

If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable.

We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back!

And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?
Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?'

Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have.

That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.
Butland, I stand by, future England keeper. Give him time. But if you don't like him, how about Jason Steele? Let me guess, you're looking for a full international!

A player in the vain of Martín Demichelis, experienced tough defender playing for Malaga. Getting him would have been a stretch, but for a while there was talk of him maybe leaving. There are loads of players plying their trade in Europe, who are obviously good enough, but seeing that they might end up in the Championship, wouldn't sign now.

I wanted us to buy Ryan Bennett last year. We missed the boat on that.

Mark Hudson, Cardiff, experienced and having a good season. Should be able to get him cheap.

Thomas Ince. Absolute class, he'd create havoc for oppositions.

Wilfried Zaha, a striker who can also operate as a winger.

Btw, NA get's paid the big bucks to buy players, as well as a scouting system to aid him. Both you and I don't. So what's his excuse? And please answer the question?
BBB asked: So what's his excuse?

To be honest, I have no idea. As I said in another comment, it's about learning by trial and error. That's true for tactics and for buying players. Not every signing works out. That's life. You just have to learn to live with it, learn from it and keep trying to improve. I think we're doing that.

Enjoy your flight and your destination.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: We have a UEFA four star stadium, some of the best training facilities in the land, a support base catchment area which is generous to say the least, a club owned by a family with considerable financial clout and a youth academy which in recent years has been nothing short of prolific! All of these act as an excellent springboard to help the club establish itself as a Premiership club. Nigel spent a significant amount in the summer, affording him the chance to add quality players to a squad already containing some very talented players, and in the process, to secure our Premiership status. The results and performances tell their own story as to his success in this area. As for the happy clappers, I’ve heard of seeing the glass half full, but your posts take it to the extreme! How can you look at the facts and still pretend that we haven’t missed an excellent opportunity to see the club taken to the next level. These chances appear rarely and fleetingly for a club such as ours. Maybe you don’t share the same high opinion and belief in the club that I have![/p][/quote]Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?[/p][/quote]What excellent opportunity do you think? Has any Southampton manager ever been given so much money to spend in a summer transfer window? We already had players like, Cork, Lallana, Lambert. So why spend 7mill on Jrod? He will be offloaded & we will lose out financially on him. And Mayuka, I'm not sold on him. If he had worked on strengthening the back a bit more we wouldn't have looked so susceptible to shipping soft goals. Credit where it's due, Clyne was a really good signing, but why not buy Butland and a decent CB and LB. Shaw is brilliant, but young. Also, an out & out ball winner in the middle of the park, would have been desirable. We had the basis of a good team, but why did he spend so much on attacking players, Sharp, Jrod, Lee, Mayuka and Ramírez, whilst neglecting the back! And the slow, predictable way he's got the team playing, has held us back from building on this "excellent opportunity". Concrete enough?[/p][/quote]Actually you seem to be avoiding the questions, which were 'Could you be more concrete about this 'excellent opportunity' that you refer to? Who, for example?' Who should we have bought? Who did we have the opportunity to buy but didn't? Apart from Butland, who plays for a team that is 6th from bottom of the Championship and has conceded 38 goals, you haven't really made much of an effort too answer the questions. What you have given us is an appraisal of the players we bought and the players we already have. That said, it is clear, even to a happy clapper like me, that not all our signings have been instant successes and that we are not playing as effectively as we were earlier in the season.[/p][/quote]Butland, I stand by, future England keeper. Give him time. But if you don't like him, how about Jason Steele? Let me guess, you're looking for a full international! A player in the vain of Martín Demichelis, experienced tough defender playing for Malaga. Getting him would have been a stretch, but for a while there was talk of him maybe leaving. There are loads of players plying their trade in Europe, who are obviously good enough, but seeing that they might end up in the Championship, wouldn't sign now. I wanted us to buy Ryan Bennett last year. We missed the boat on that. Mark Hudson, Cardiff, experienced and having a good season. Should be able to get him cheap. Thomas Ince. Absolute class, he'd create havoc for oppositions. Wilfried Zaha, a striker who can also operate as a winger. Btw, NA get's paid the big bucks to buy players, as well as a scouting system to aid him. Both you and I don't. So what's his excuse? And please answer the question?[/p][/quote]BBB asked: So what's his [NA] excuse? To be honest, I have no idea. As I said in another comment, it's about learning by trial and error. That's true for tactics and for buying players. Not every signing works out. That's life. You just have to learn to live with it, learn from it and keep trying to improve. I think we're doing that. Enjoy your flight and your destination. Rising_Son
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1:52pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward.



Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.
So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success

What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.
Don't worry Osprey lives in his 'ideal world'!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. [In my opinion:- ] Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.[/p][/quote]So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Don't worry Osprey lives in his 'ideal world'!!!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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2:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Velleity says...

Didn't see the game yesterday but I've waded through this thread and seen the same old tired comment repeatedly. "Why didn't we sign XXX?"

If you give it any thought at all, you'll realise that it's not like popping down to Tesco. You decide on a target and you're up against another dozen teams (if the player truly is good) all bidding different amounts to the owner and terms to the player. Add in agents muddyine the water and the fact that the current team may not want the player to leave and it's a mangled business. It's no wonder that players get away.

That point also misses out the obvious problem which is that we don't have a time machine to go back and change things, so it's not really a constructive comment, just a whine.

Comments about whom we might sign in January welcome, of course.
Didn't see the game yesterday but I've waded through this thread and seen the same old tired comment repeatedly. "Why didn't we sign XXX?" If you give it any thought at all, you'll realise that it's not like popping down to Tesco. You decide on a target and you're up against another dozen teams (if the player truly is good) all bidding different amounts to the owner and terms to the player. Add in agents muddyine the water and the fact that the current team may not want the player to leave and it's a mangled business. It's no wonder that players get away. That point also misses out the obvious problem which is that we don't have a time machine to go back and change things, so it's not really a constructive comment, just a whine. Comments about whom we might sign in January welcome, of course. Velleity
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3:06pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

I do actually agree that our slow build up play is not ideal for every Premier League game we play.
Nevertheless, it saw us through two successive promotions and to expect a massive change of tactics and personnel is unrealistic. This coud have lead to a shambolic mish mash such as the current QPR situation.
Yes, we need more quality and cover bought in...but wholesale changes will not help us imo. We must continue to learn and evolve.
I do actually agree that our slow build up play is not ideal for every Premier League game we play. Nevertheless, it saw us through two successive promotions and to expect a massive change of tactics and personnel is unrealistic. This coud have lead to a shambolic mish mash such as the current QPR situation. Yes, we need more quality and cover bought in...but wholesale changes will not help us imo. We must continue to learn and evolve. Baddesley Bill
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3:32pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward.



Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.
So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success

What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.
Don't worry Osprey lives in his 'ideal world'!!!!!!!!!!
.. and enjoying it, thanks.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. [In my opinion:- ] Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.[/p][/quote]So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Don't worry Osprey lives in his 'ideal world'!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote].. and enjoying it, thanks. OSPREYSAINT
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3:46pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward.



Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.
So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success

What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.
It would take far too long to explain it all in words of four letters or less so that you could understand it. Basically if you play short passe on a wet pitch, they tend to grind to a halt early and don't reach the intended target. If you lump high balls up to your Centre Forward a gust of wind can make it difficult to read the trajectory. So, good players adapt with chipped passes to their team mates, but that is a difficult task to get it accurate, you can't play tippy tappy with the ball in the air, it doesn't work. So often yesterday, a normally hit pass either stuck in the mud, or went screaming along the turf and out of play, Ricky said as much in his post match interview. Our tippy tappy play when the pitches were dry was excellent to watch and while we had possession the opposition couldn't do anything as they couldn't get the ball. The trick is not to lose possession in critical areas, that is where most of the opposition threat has come from. Just simply blaming a GK for a mistake is too easy, if the defence is doing their job right the GK wouldn't be put into the position where his mistakes could cost us so dearly.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: BbB again Quote: And we switch from a team keeping the ball for way too long, to a team humping it forward. [In my opinion:- ] Somehow I think there are a few reasons for this, tactical changes call for different methods, good (experienced) Premier Managers spend a lot of time watching vids of their next opposition and adjust their team and tactics to match as best as they can using the squad that they have. Weather conditions, in particular the last couple of weeks have had a major effect on how to use the ball to do the work. No good playing fast tippy tappy when the ball is getting stuck on a sodden pitch. Long balls are no use if the wind and rain are swirling around making it impossible to control. Come Spring and Summer with warm dry days and a perfect pitch we will see the best of Ramirez and co. who will make the ball do the work. Something to look forward to.[/p][/quote]So when the conditions are poor do all teams stop playing direct football, really, I didn't realise. And as for the "fast tippy tappy" stuff, we've played a lot of it this season, without a great deal of success What do we do if the pitch is sodden and the rain is swirling around? Because according to you, we can't play short balls on a sodden pitch or long balls when it's rainy or windy? Do enlighten me.[/p][/quote]It would take far too long to explain it all in words of four letters or less so that you could understand it. Basically if you play short passe on a wet pitch, they tend to grind to a halt early and don't reach the intended target. If you lump high balls up to your Centre Forward a gust of wind can make it difficult to read the trajectory. So, good players adapt with chipped passes to their team mates, but that is a difficult task to get it accurate, you can't play tippy tappy with the ball in the air, it doesn't work. So often yesterday, a normally hit pass either stuck in the mud, or went screaming along the turf and out of play, Ricky said as much in his post match interview. Our tippy tappy play when the pitches were dry was excellent to watch and while we had possession the opposition couldn't do anything as they couldn't get the ball. The trick is not to lose possession in critical areas, that is where most of the opposition threat has come from. Just simply blaming a GK for a mistake is too easy, if the defence is doing their job right the GK wouldn't be put into the position where his mistakes could cost us so dearly. OSPREYSAINT
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3:52pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bring back Branfoot says...
11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12
I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place.

I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?
I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive.
Good point, the only problem is that in the Premier, time is not on your side, you have to learn quickly, or get someone in that has already got the knowledge, whether that be in advisory capacity or a complete replacement is open to question and no two of us are of the same opinion or have the solution.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Bring back Branfoot says... 11:29am Thu 27 Dec 12 I honestly believe we are a club that has the potential to be vying for a Europa cup place. I do too but shouldn't we be learning to walk before we start running?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure it's a matter of running rather than learning to walk. I see it as more a process of trial and error. You try and learn from your successes and you failures. The evidence, as I see it is that we are learning. Isn't that a huge positive.[/p][/quote]Good point, the only problem is that in the Premier, time is not on your side, you have to learn quickly, or get someone in that has already got the knowledge, whether that be in advisory capacity or a complete replacement is open to question and no two of us are of the same opinion or have the solution. OSPREYSAINT
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9:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
rossofficial10 wrote:
when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team.

can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales!


i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday!
lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch!

on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in!

crazy nigel decisions!

good point today! roll on saturday!
Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!!
Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?
thanks for this positive news mate! if this is true as im sure it is! im jumping with joy right now! much better team with him in it! having a baby this year and calling him adam lallana edwards!

sad eh? saints til i die!

ross ;)
Medial ligament tear takes about 12 weeks to repair.
[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: when is lallana back? that would be a lovely present! great if hes back for the tough arsenal fixture! he's the heartbeat of the team. can't replace lambert or lallana as their the heartbeat of the team. maybe we can get some more key players in the jan window sales! i see we got the mighty saints rejects (stoke) this saturday! lets hope we can stop kenwyn and crouch! on a serious note, why is guly still around? prefer billy sharpe whos banging them in! crazy nigel decisions! good point today! roll on saturday![/p][/quote]Lalana wont be back until late February / March 2013! Medial ligament damage to knee!!!!![/p][/quote]Lallana could be back v Stoke, more likely Arsenal. Spoke to him after the match on his way to his car, and he said his knee was good. Why are you saying otherwise?[/p][/quote]thanks for this positive news mate! if this is true as im sure it is! im jumping with joy right now! much better team with him in it! having a baby this year and calling him adam lallana edwards! sad eh? saints til i die! ross ;)[/p][/quote]Medial ligament tear takes about 12 weeks to repair. saintlysoul
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9:20am Fri 28 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.
I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring!
He supports villa, how boring can u get?
lol Villa are going through a bad time right now, but that hasn't always been the case. He plays a mean violin too!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Interesting..... Shankly was witty, as sharp as a pin and very captivating. Not knocking Nigel but he is none of these, if you've heard 1 of his interviews you've heard em all, they consist of a lot of 'verys and hard workings! In fact every Nigel I know are quite boring.[/p][/quote]I never found Nigel Kennedy boring, weird but never boring![/p][/quote]He supports villa, how boring can u get?[/p][/quote]lol Villa are going through a bad time right now, but that hasn't always been the case. He plays a mean violin too! OSPREYSAINT
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