Gaston to continue his right to roam

Gaston Ramirez

Gaston Ramirez

First published in Saints News

Gaston Ramirez looks set to continue to have no fixed position to call his own.

The £12m man was used on the left, the right and in behind Rickie Lambert as Saints battled to a point at Fulham.

There is an increasing clamour for Ramirez to be given a run of games in the hole off of Lambert where he has looked most effective.

However, Adkins hinted he will continue to mix and match.

“We brought Gaston in in the summer and it takes a bit of time to adjust, but he’s got undoubted ability and we have to get him on the ball to show everyone the talent he has got,” he said.

“We can talk about trying to find a situation to effect the game.

“Gaston can play behind Rickie, he can play on the left wing, he can play on the right.

“At stages in the game you want to effect the game and get players in the game.

“Defensively, Riether getting forward in the first half hour gave us a little bit of an issue and probably led to the goal where Gaston wasn’t able to track him as he got down the wing.

“I changed him and Jason Puncheon over from a defensive point of view and that’s nullified the attacking threat of Riether and got us in the game a bit more.

“We wanted to play Steven Davis in off of Rickie to utilise the football and in the end I put Gaston in behind Rickie as well.

“You are forever making decisions to change things around to try and give yourselves an opportunity to win it.”

Saints did look a more threatening attacking prospect when Ramirez was moved into the hole behind Lambert at Fulham but when asked if he had decided on the best position for his star man Adkins replied: “Get him on the football. It’s one of them.

“He plays on the left hand side for Uruguay and with Adam being out for the last couple of games we’ve utilised him in that position.

“Again he can play as we have utilised him in behind Rickie.”

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11:02am Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player!
Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player! OSPREYSAINT
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11:04am Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!! saintlysoul
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11:05am Thu 27 Dec 12

Puddletown Saint says...

Decide on his best position and play him there.

Square pegs in round holes again !!!!
Decide on his best position and play him there. Square pegs in round holes again !!!! Puddletown Saint
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11:07am Thu 27 Dec 12

JohnItaly says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player!
Bit of sunshine on his back. Should therefore be the player we all thought he was in April / May. Might be a bit late then!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player![/p][/quote]Bit of sunshine on his back. Should therefore be the player we all thought he was in April / May. Might be a bit late then!! JohnItaly
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11:14am Thu 27 Dec 12

InCortesewetrust says...

Let's try Lambert in goal next game and why not give gaston a go at right back it frees up Clyne to go right wing! Sounds like a plan,
Let's try Lambert in goal next game and why not give gaston a go at right back it frees up Clyne to go right wing! Sounds like a plan, InCortesewetrust
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11:24am Thu 27 Dec 12

sarfhamton says...

In Adkins we trust, get behind the team whingers
In Adkins we trust, get behind the team whingers sarfhamton
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11:28am Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player!
get him in the suntan room with Nige then asap
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player![/p][/quote]get him in the suntan room with Nige then asap Five Trophies Between Us
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11:31am Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here
next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here Five Trophies Between Us
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11:39am Thu 27 Dec 12

Night Rider says...

He hasn't ticked for all I care! To me Lambert is the cuprit who must be rested for another striker that can deliver effectively...
He hasn't ticked for all I care! To me Lambert is the cuprit who must be rested for another striker that can deliver effectively... Night Rider
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11:44am Thu 27 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

Five Trophies Between Us says...
11:31am Thu 27 Dec 12

next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here”

Umm QPR haven't been relegated to league 1 yet fella.
Five Trophies Between Us says... 11:31am Thu 27 Dec 12 next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here” Umm QPR haven't been relegated to league 1 yet fella. SO50 Saint
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11:50am Thu 27 Dec 12

up saints says...

well jan transfer window will be intresting.not sure why gazza has gone off the radar is he still injured.
well jan transfer window will be intresting.not sure why gazza has gone off the radar is he still injured. up saints
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11:51am Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
youll be bottom by then below harry, nice Five Trophies Between Us
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11:58am Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money. kent141
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12:02pm Thu 27 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

Come on Yeovil.
Come on Yeovil. mack chinnon
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12:07pm Thu 27 Dec 12

devonsaint2 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
you haven't won 4 trophies

You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for. devonsaint2
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12:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.
5 years later. ha. and when the stains won their trophy everyone was still thinking but the beatles breaking up.
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.[/p][/quote]5 years later. ha. and when the stains won their trophy everyone was still thinking but the beatles breaking up. Five Trophies Between Us
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12:14pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
devonsaint2 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.
5 years later. ha. and when the stains won their trophy everyone was still thinking but the beatles breaking up.
bout
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.[/p][/quote]5 years later. ha. and when the stains won their trophy everyone was still thinking but the beatles breaking up.[/p][/quote]bout Five Trophies Between Us
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12:15pm Thu 27 Dec 12

redsnapper says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here. redsnapper
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12:15pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Folkestone Saint says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
you haven't won 4 trophies

You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.
Untill it's paid for they have stolen one cup, in fact it belongs to the tax payer and not poopey so yes it is 5 trophies
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]you haven't won 4 trophies You bought the FA cup ( can't deny that ) and the Div 1 league titles were post war trophies....i think you will find the war was a little more on peoples minds that winning a Dv 1 title that nobody tried for.[/p][/quote]Untill it's paid for they have stolen one cup, in fact it belongs to the tax payer and not poopey so yes it is 5 trophies Folkestone Saint
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12:19pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Come on Yeovil.
That
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Come on Yeovil.[/p][/quote]That Baddesley Bill
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12:20pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier. OSPREYSAINT
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12:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs? Five Trophies Between Us
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12:24pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player!
get him in the suntan room with Nige then asap
Very droll, but not a bad idea really, looking at the pale insipid blue phew, some of them could do with something to warm them up, and arson attack on Nottarf might do the trick, think of the Insurance claim.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Get a bit of sunshine on his back and he will be a different player![/p][/quote]get him in the suntan room with Nige then asap[/p][/quote]Very droll, but not a bad idea really, looking at the pale insipid blue phew, some of them could do with something to warm them up, and arson attack on Nottarf might do the trick, think of the Insurance claim. OSPREYSAINT
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12:28pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up. OSPREYSAINT
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12:34pm Thu 27 Dec 12

devonsaint2 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
you have future....so you go on about the past...still not long to go and you are gone
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]you have future....so you go on about the past...still not long to go and you are gone devonsaint2
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12:34pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Stroppy_gramps says...

sshshhhhhh
respond not to the trolls and they will die for the lack of responses

we could have played better, but we still came away with a point. so lets move on to the next match and see what we can get there.
sshshhhhhh respond not to the trolls and they will die for the lack of responses we could have played better, but we still came away with a point. so lets move on to the next match and see what we can get there. Stroppy_gramps
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12:46pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintmicky says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu!
STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu! STID saintmicky
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12:47pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
you have future....so you go on about the past...still not long to go and you are gone
gr8 post. we do have a future, and i will be going out in a short while. keep trying in the big league, nother 50 yrs and u could double ur success. ha
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]you have future....so you go on about the past...still not long to go and you are gone[/p][/quote]gr8 post. we do have a future, and i will be going out in a short while. keep trying in the big league, nother 50 yrs and u could double ur success. ha Five Trophies Between Us
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1:00pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
Here here!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]Here here!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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1:01pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.[/p][/quote]If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time. kent141
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1:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee. saintlysoul
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1:07pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

saintmicky wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu!
STID
Saintmicky. You have restored my faith! Thank you. i will try and be positive. Osprey take note this is 'intellect' and helpful!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu! STID[/p][/quote]Saintmicky. You have restored my faith! Thank you. i will try and be positive. Osprey take note this is 'intellect' and helpful!!!! saintlysoul
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1:10pm Thu 27 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.”

Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.” Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking SO50 Saint
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1:20pm Thu 27 Dec 12

techsture says...

Forest and Blackburn have the right idea. Someone name me a decent signing NA has made other than Cork.

Total disaster in the transfer market paying over the odds for average players
Forest and Blackburn have the right idea. Someone name me a decent signing NA has made other than Cork. Total disaster in the transfer market paying over the odds for average players techsture
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1:21pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
I think the use of the word "they're" in the above post is quite enlightening tbh.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]I think the use of the word "they're" in the above post is quite enlightening tbh. Baddesley Bill
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1:22pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
saintmicky wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu!
STID
Saintmicky. You have restored my faith! Thank you. i will try and be positive. Osprey take note this is 'intellect' and helpful!!!!
I'll take it on advice, just hearing you say that you are going to be positive, warms the cockles of my heart, I am the first to praise positivity. Did you know we were after Michu too, we lost out on that one.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Saintlysoul, you are a Saints supporter of the genuine kind, I have read your posts in the past, and you do know about football. In the last couple of weeks you have become really negative, don't let this tough season get you down, keep the faith, it will come good, it's harder than any of us remember! By the way I don't think Gaston is bad or fantastic, that is just what you get for £12M in today's market, unless you are stunningly fortunate like Swansea with Michu! STID[/p][/quote]Saintmicky. You have restored my faith! Thank you. i will try and be positive. Osprey take note this is 'intellect' and helpful!!!![/p][/quote]I'll take it on advice, just hearing you say that you are going to be positive, warms the cockles of my heart, I am the first to praise positivity. Did you know we were after Michu too, we lost out on that one. OSPREYSAINT
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1:26pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.”

Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking
Why do you mention Pompey all the time ?
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.” Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking[/p][/quote]Why do you mention Pompey all the time ? kent141
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1:32pm Thu 27 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

I was answering your question kenty.
I was answering your question kenty. SO50 Saint
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1:34pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't. OSPREYSAINT
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1:36pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.”

Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking
Why do you mention Pompey all the time ?
Probably similar to your obsession with all things Scummer. I like you, you are silly.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.” Yes there was this small time club to the east we could have brought it with that money and made it our reserve team. What you really hate is the fact your poxy little club could have been saved with that money but instead we took a chance on a South American who I think ultimately will become the reason why we stay up this year. Also helps that some of the other teams down the bottom with us are shocking[/p][/quote]Why do you mention Pompey all the time ?[/p][/quote]Probably similar to your obsession with all things Scummer. I like you, you are silly. OSPREYSAINT
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1:39pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
I was answering your question kenty.
Considering you are not that bright you done quite well ;0)
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I was answering your question kenty.[/p][/quote]Considering you are not that bright you done quite well ;0) kent141
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1:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!! saintlysoul
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1:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

techsture wrote:
Forest and Blackburn have the right idea. Someone name me a decent signing NA has made other than Cork.

Total disaster in the transfer market paying over the odds for average players
... and who were you again? List all of the Players that have been signed since NA arrived and I will tell you which ones are decent.
[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote: Forest and Blackburn have the right idea. Someone name me a decent signing NA has made other than Cork. Total disaster in the transfer market paying over the odds for average players[/p][/quote]... and who were you again? List all of the Players that have been signed since NA arrived and I will tell you which ones are decent. OSPREYSAINT
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1:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintkenny says...

kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.
wrong gaston turnt spurs down ,probably thought he would not get in the team .with there squad is understandable ,we stll get better value then your lot paying 50.000 a week and 35.000 a week in the championship ,and we do get 13.000 more fans at home games .even at league one level .least we have many years of premiership football .you lot go on about the past ,but you wont see the premier league again in your life time,.if you see any leagues at all.the only reason your fans is buying the club is because other than chainry who wants is money back .no one else is interested .about your poor corrupted club .enough said
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.[/p][/quote]If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.[/p][/quote]wrong gaston turnt spurs down ,probably thought he would not get in the team .with there squad is understandable ,we stll get better value then your lot paying 50.000 a week and 35.000 a week in the championship ,and we do get 13.000 more fans at home games .even at league one level .least we have many years of premiership football .you lot go on about the past ,but you wont see the premier league again in your life time,.if you see any leagues at all.the only reason your fans is buying the club is because other than chainry who wants is money back .no one else is interested .about your poor corrupted club .enough said saintkenny
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1:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.
wrong gaston turnt spurs down ,probably thought he would not get in the team .with there squad is understandable ,we stll get better value then your lot paying 50.000 a week and 35.000 a week in the championship ,and we do get 13.000 more fans at home games .even at league one level .least we have many years of premiership football .you lot go on about the past ,but you wont see the premier league again in your life time,.if you see any leagues at all.the only reason your fans is buying the club is because other than chainry who wants is money back .no one else is interested .about your poor corrupted club .enough said
Nice ramble, enough said ;0)
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.[/p][/quote]If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.[/p][/quote]wrong gaston turnt spurs down ,probably thought he would not get in the team .with there squad is understandable ,we stll get better value then your lot paying 50.000 a week and 35.000 a week in the championship ,and we do get 13.000 more fans at home games .even at league one level .least we have many years of premiership football .you lot go on about the past ,but you wont see the premier league again in your life time,.if you see any leagues at all.the only reason your fans is buying the club is because other than chainry who wants is money back .no one else is interested .about your poor corrupted club .enough said[/p][/quote]Nice ramble, enough said ;0) kent141
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1:49pm Thu 27 Dec 12

boilerman says...

It's ok allowing him to roam , but if he had been doing his job in front of Shaw Fulham wouldn't have had the extra man to overlap for their goal.
I thought after a poor first half we battled back well.
Two things though,
1) Why do we insist on putting ourselves under pressure by always passing the ball around at the back, sometimes it is prudent to get the ball forward quicker.
and 2) why is we refuse to shoot a bit sooner?.
Adkins said that we like to play football out from the back , true but not all of the time.
I thought the fans were great yesterday, there were the odd groans but the majority got everyone singing and supporting the team.
Did anyone else notice how Guly just walked off the pitch without waving to the fans at the end ?
It's ok allowing him to roam , but if he had been doing his job in front of Shaw Fulham wouldn't have had the extra man to overlap for their goal. I thought after a poor first half we battled back well. Two things though, 1) Why do we insist on putting ourselves under pressure by always passing the ball around at the back, sometimes it is prudent to get the ball forward quicker. and 2) why is we refuse to shoot a bit sooner?. Adkins said that we like to play football out from the back , true but not all of the time. I thought the fans were great yesterday, there were the odd groans but the majority got everyone singing and supporting the team. Did anyone else notice how Guly just walked off the pitch without waving to the fans at the end ? boilerman
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1:50pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them. OSPREYSAINT
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1:54pm Thu 27 Dec 12

aldermoorboy says...

Gaston's best position is being given a free role in attack. He will play his part in keeping us up, two hard games next but we can get a result/s.
Gaston's best position is being given a free role in attack. He will play his part in keeping us up, two hard games next but we can get a result/s. aldermoorboy
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2:04pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.
If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.
You are right in many respects, I hadn't heard of him until his name came up on a Rumour site, his credentials, to be honest he didn't seem to warrant such a large price tag, but there must have been a reason why we pursued him and wouldn't take no for an answer, why? I don't know yet. We have seen glimpses of his potential, but the injury didn't help. £12m? How many expensive players have become folk heroes straight away? I am hoping that as playing conditions and familiarity with his team mates improve, will see him blossom and shine, jury is still out whether we will get our money worth. Come back at Easter and say what you think then.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]You are saying that we are a Premier Club, you have never said that before so I guess it is progress. I suppose we could have saved PFC with £12m so I suppose everything should be taken in some sort of perspective. If there any proven quality players that come to mind, please make some suggestions, as they are not obvious. Monthly Contracts are not an option in the Premier.[/p][/quote]If you lot think that was £12m well spent thats great,but i bet you had never heard of him until Spurs decided to give up on him. Im sure there were better options available at the time.[/p][/quote]You are right in many respects, I hadn't heard of him until his name came up on a Rumour site, his credentials, to be honest he didn't seem to warrant such a large price tag, but there must have been a reason why we pursued him and wouldn't take no for an answer, why? I don't know yet. We have seen glimpses of his potential, but the injury didn't help. £12m? How many expensive players have become folk heroes straight away? I am hoping that as playing conditions and familiarity with his team mates improve, will see him blossom and shine, jury is still out whether we will get our money worth. Come back at Easter and say what you think then. OSPREYSAINT
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2:04pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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2:06pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5!
Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!!

HAHAHA

STID
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID st1halo
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2:10pm Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$..

Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng...

...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction...

..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers...

...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league..

From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)...

For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down...

LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around..

....mindset not talent is at fault here.
Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$.. Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng... ...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction... ..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers... ...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league.. From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)... For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down... LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around.. ....mindset not talent is at fault here. warrens 76
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2:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

St_Ron says...

kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.!
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.! St_Ron
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2:17pm Thu 27 Dec 12

oldsaintsfan says...

All teams in the bottom half of the PL table are in constant state of worry. It seems worse now than back when I first started watching saints in the 60’s. I guess it’s the TV money and particularly the threat of losing it and all its business implications. Just look at the “crisis” at Fulham (I think we would be happier with their total points if not their recent form). Saints had very little PL experience in the team at the start – there was obviously going to be a steep learning curve. I assume because NC being a rational business man will leave football decisions to NA (+ staff) and concentrates on running the club and particularly the finances. This means that NA et al decides on the transfer targets and NC et al attempts to deliver the targets within budget etc. Clearly it is very unlikely that saints are going to land all their transfer targets (particularly as this is a competitive game) which probably explains why most fans appear to view the recruiting in the last transfer window unbalanced. My reading of these threads suggests many would have been happier with buying more defenders. This may be correct but not deliverable during the transfer window probably because of the competitive pressures.. Once the window is shut you have to go with what you have and the defence seems to have settled after a shaky start. To me we seem to be missing the spark provided by AL in the last two games and so the recruitment of a creative midfield player does not seem so daft. However GR appears to have had a number of challenges in joining saints. He is a young man in a new country with all the issues that entails including language and cultural issues. He carries the fans expectations associated with being our most expensive player (ever) and on top of all that it seems like it has not stopped raining since he arrived! My hope is that he likes living in Hampshire and develops into one of our all time greats!
All teams in the bottom half of the PL table are in constant state of worry. It seems worse now than back when I first started watching saints in the 60’s. I guess it’s the TV money and particularly the threat of losing it and all its business implications. Just look at the “crisis” at Fulham (I think we would be happier with their total points if not their recent form). Saints had very little PL experience in the team at the start – there was obviously going to be a steep learning curve. I assume because NC being a rational business man will leave football decisions to NA (+ staff) and concentrates on running the club and particularly the finances. This means that NA et al decides on the transfer targets and NC et al attempts to deliver the targets within budget etc. Clearly it is very unlikely that saints are going to land all their transfer targets (particularly as this is a competitive game) which probably explains why most fans appear to view the recruiting in the last transfer window unbalanced. My reading of these threads suggests many would have been happier with buying more defenders. This may be correct but not deliverable during the transfer window probably because of the competitive pressures.. Once the window is shut you have to go with what you have and the defence seems to have settled after a shaky start. To me we seem to be missing the spark provided by AL in the last two games and so the recruitment of a creative midfield player does not seem so daft. However GR appears to have had a number of challenges in joining saints. He is a young man in a new country with all the issues that entails including language and cultural issues. He carries the fans expectations associated with being our most expensive player (ever) and on top of all that it seems like it has not stopped raining since he arrived! My hope is that he likes living in Hampshire and develops into one of our all time greats! oldsaintsfan
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2:18pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

boilerman wrote:
It's ok allowing him to roam , but if he had been doing his job in front of Shaw Fulham wouldn't have had the extra man to overlap for their goal.
I thought after a poor first half we battled back well.
Two things though,
1) Why do we insist on putting ourselves under pressure by always passing the ball around at the back, sometimes it is prudent to get the ball forward quicker.
and 2) why is we refuse to shoot a bit sooner?.
Adkins said that we like to play football out from the back , true but not all of the time.
I thought the fans were great yesterday, there were the odd groans but the majority got everyone singing and supporting the team.
Did anyone else notice how Guly just walked off the pitch without waving to the fans at the end ?
I think our passing game will help us at Stoke...totally agree with point 2 though.

Guly carries a weight on his shoulders due to some of our most fickle fans. I only hope he can handle it and prove himself capable at this level.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: It's ok allowing him to roam , but if he had been doing his job in front of Shaw Fulham wouldn't have had the extra man to overlap for their goal. I thought after a poor first half we battled back well. Two things though, 1) Why do we insist on putting ourselves under pressure by always passing the ball around at the back, sometimes it is prudent to get the ball forward quicker. and 2) why is we refuse to shoot a bit sooner?. Adkins said that we like to play football out from the back , true but not all of the time. I thought the fans were great yesterday, there were the odd groans but the majority got everyone singing and supporting the team. Did anyone else notice how Guly just walked off the pitch without waving to the fans at the end ?[/p][/quote]I think our passing game will help us at Stoke...totally agree with point 2 though. Guly carries a weight on his shoulders due to some of our most fickle fans. I only hope he can handle it and prove himself capable at this level. Baddesley Bill
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2:21pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different. ghk230473
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2:22pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud. OSPREYSAINT
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2:25pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another good post GHK, you are much better when sober. I'll give the pen and stamps a miss I don't know diddly squat about football, after watching, playing, refereeing, and again watching for 60 years I still haven't got a clue.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another good post GHK, you are much better when sober. I'll give the pen and stamps a miss I don't know diddly squat about football, after watching, playing, refereeing, and again watching for 60 years I still haven't got a clue. OSPREYSAINT
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2:38pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$..

Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng...

...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction...

..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers...

...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league..

From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)...

For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down...

LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around..

....mindset not talent is at fault here.
If you could bottle the solution you could make yourself a fortune. One problem here, is that there is no on/off switch to use to put it right.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$.. Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng... ...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction... ..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers... ...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league.. From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)... For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down... LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around.. ....mindset not talent is at fault here.[/p][/quote]If you could bottle the solution you could make yourself a fortune. One problem here, is that there is no on/off switch to use to put it right. OSPREYSAINT
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2:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

St_Ron wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.!
Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better.
[quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.![/p][/quote]Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better. warrens 76
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2:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID st1halo
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2:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$..

Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng...

...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction...

..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers...

...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league..

From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)...

For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down...

LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around..

....mindset not talent is at fault here.
If you could bottle the solution you could make yourself a fortune. One problem here, is that there is no on/off switch to use to put it right.
You may have put your finger on it..it is definately an on/off switch..maybe someone should work on that...

Paul Mckenna come on down.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Kenwynne Jones can stick a J Rod up his a$$.. Enough profanities, something is bugging me, look teams around us are slipping up like skates chasing fivers on an iceflow...and we are NOT capitalizng... ...in short other teams are having a mare and we are not gaining traction... ..my concern is we just are not good when the pressure is on and make howlers... ...last year as promotion dawned we almost blew it and we WERE the best team in the league.. From that immortal film Cool Hand Luke...." Luke ie the team has got to get it's mind right, what we have here is failure to comminicade" (that's how the warden said it)... For me it is a mental thing...we are not up to speed in this department and panic, Mufco, the old LFC, just grind teams down... LFC beat us to the title in I think 82 or 84...they scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of HALF there home matches..just kept plugging away eventually the OTHER team cracked, with us it is the other way around.. ....mindset not talent is at fault here.[/p][/quote]If you could bottle the solution you could make yourself a fortune. One problem here, is that there is no on/off switch to use to put it right.[/p][/quote]You may have put your finger on it..it is definately an on/off switch..maybe someone should work on that... Paul Mckenna come on down. warrens 76
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2:44pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

st1halo wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID
ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID[/p][/quote]ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha Five Trophies Between Us
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2:57pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID. OSPREYSAINT
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3:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID
ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha
Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID[/p][/quote]ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha[/p][/quote]Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World. OSPREYSAINT
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3:06pm Thu 27 Dec 12

redsnapper says...

The weakest link is KD.

The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it.

Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White.

But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves.

Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates.
The weakest link is KD. The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it. Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White. But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves. Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates. redsnapper
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3:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID
ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha
Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World.
the best one went though, haha, the best one in th museum. ha
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID[/p][/quote]ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha[/p][/quote]Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World.[/p][/quote]the best one went though, haha, the best one in th museum. ha Five Trophies Between Us
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3:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice
Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.
five trophies between us, how many are urs?
Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID
ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha
Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World.
the best one went though, haha, the best one in th museum. ha
Enlighten me?
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: youll be bottom by then below harry, nice[/p][/quote]Welcome...another tool from the swamp.. ...none of you skunts understand even the basics of running a decent club as you don,t have an academy, a squad, a ground,a manager, a goal scorer and definitely no future...... off you go now, down to the swamp and help them out instead of babbling sh*te on here.[/p][/quote]five trophies between us, how many are urs?[/p][/quote]Actually there are a lot more than 5 trophies between us but I guess with three fingers on one hand and two on the other you couldn't count any more than 5! Speaking of history ... when was the last time you won a game!!!! Oh well you can always go to your docks to see a victory!! HAHAHA STID[/p][/quote]ur halo is slipping boyo goin on about handicaps. the one u have is that u always wanna get rid of ur managers. if u wanna see some history in staincity go to the aircraft museum. but sad for u all the best airplanes r gone. haha[/p][/quote]Wrong again, they are aeroplanes/aircraft, not airplanes. There are some decent aircraft in the Museum, including a Spitfire, one of the best aircraft in th World.[/p][/quote]the best one went though, haha, the best one in th museum. ha[/p][/quote]Enlighten me? OSPREYSAINT
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3:15pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID st1halo
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3:16pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.!
Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better.
Im sure she will, can you send your mummy round later, cheers ;0)
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.![/p][/quote]Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better.[/p][/quote]Im sure she will, can you send your mummy round later, cheers ;0) kent141
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3:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad. OSPREYSAINT
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3:56pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID st1halo
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4:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

kent141 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.!
Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better.
Im sure she will, can you send your mummy round later, cheers ;0)
Only you could say that to an orphan!
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]you must have gone to bed or fallen asleep before the hightlights on MOTD I thought he showed outstanding skill when he turned beat 2 Fulham players and hit the bar from over 40 yards made me go Ohhh.![/p][/quote]Small premier club, actually top ten in attendances...now what were you saying about a small Hampshire club spending a lot of money on MANY players....er money wasted...wages based on fantasy...now go back to sleep and mummy will kiss it all better.[/p][/quote]Im sure she will, can you send your mummy round later, cheers ;0)[/p][/quote]Only you could say that to an orphan! warrens 76
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4:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintkenny says...

redsnapper wrote:
The weakest link is KD.

The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it.

Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White.

But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves.

Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates.
so you did not watch the defense in front of kelvin in that game your comment is laughable.any keeper would look vulnerable they the defense was disorganised with the 4 4 3 system .fox and hooveild .did hoo not score own goals as well .thr truth is cork has made the difference ,offerd more protection .i do believe we nedd another keeper .clearly gazz is not ready yet .borac i9m not sure .but he made a gaff and threw a bottle in the crowd .but maybe we should try him again .he has a good record
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: The weakest link is KD. The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it. Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White. But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves. Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates.[/p][/quote]so you did not watch the defense in front of kelvin in that game your comment is laughable.any keeper would look vulnerable they the defense was disorganised with the 4 4 3 system .fox and hooveild .did hoo not score own goals as well .thr truth is cork has made the difference ,offerd more protection .i do believe we nedd another keeper .clearly gazz is not ready yet .borac i9m not sure .but he made a gaff and threw a bottle in the crowd .but maybe we should try him again .he has a good record saintkenny
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4:17pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID OSPREYSAINT
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4:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Interesting admission Osprey ....'argumentative as usual I will never change' -explains a lot!
Interesting admission Osprey ....'argumentative as usual I will never change' -explains a lot! saintlysoul
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4:47pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Interesting admission Osprey ....'argumentative as usual I will never change' -explains a lot!
That's me, what's your excuse?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Interesting admission Osprey ....'argumentative as usual I will never change' -explains a lot![/p][/quote]That's me, what's your excuse? OSPREYSAINT
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4:47pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID st1halo
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4:53pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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5:02pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
To get Penalties you have to get into the box with the ball, the only player that has tried that recently is Puncheon. I am sure we have players that could try the direct approach, running into the box and trying to shoot, a rare event indeed.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID[/p][/quote]To get Penalties you have to get into the box with the ball, the only player that has tried that recently is Puncheon. I am sure we have players that could try the direct approach, running into the box and trying to shoot, a rare event indeed. OSPREYSAINT
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5:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

st1halo says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
I think Gaston will become absolutely top class, all the signs are there and he is still very young. I'll take the words of his fellow professionals who all see it and sing his praises.
As for Berbatov, you are right, he is class without doubt. Unfortunately he has the ego to go with it and that is why he only plays for Fulham!

STID
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I think Gaston will become absolutely top class, all the signs are there and he is still very young. I'll take the words of his fellow professionals who all see it and sing his praises. As for Berbatov, you are right, he is class without doubt. Unfortunately he has the ego to go with it and that is why he only plays for Fulham! STID st1halo
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5:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
You've obviously not read many of ghk's posts in the past.

Berbatov is a class act...but he does blow hot an cold. I would imagine he'd have his critics if he wore a Saints shirt.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You've obviously not read many of ghk's posts in the past. Berbatov is a class act...but he does blow hot an cold. I would imagine he'd have his critics if he wore a Saints shirt. Baddesley Bill
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5:09pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ? slugger
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5:24pm Thu 27 Dec 12

redsnapper says...

saintkenny wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
The weakest link is KD.

The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it.

Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White.

But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves.

Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates.
so you did not watch the defense in front of kelvin in that game your comment is laughable.any keeper would look vulnerable they the defense was disorganised with the 4 4 3 system .fox and hooveild .did hoo not score own goals as well .thr truth is cork has made the difference ,offerd more protection .i do believe we nedd another keeper .clearly gazz is not ready yet .borac i9m not sure .but he made a gaff and threw a bottle in the crowd .but maybe we should try him again .he has a good record
my point exactly ..by the time the gooners game happened kelvin had already let in several softies, so the back 4 were in panic mode................
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....and then there was yesterdays gift to Berbatov......

i agree try borat!! or borac whatever his name.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: The weakest link is KD. The rest are doing OK, Fonte and Yoshi have really improved, Luke is fantastic and Nat C. also, but they never know if KD will catch, punch, drop or bungle it. Punch is turning out a cracker and apart from losing Lala the future is bright for Red and White. But we do need a quality keeper and cover for Luke and the centre halves. Hopefully another point against Stoke and then revenge against the Gooners after Kelvins horror show at the Emirates.[/p][/quote]so you did not watch the defense in front of kelvin in that game your comment is laughable.any keeper would look vulnerable they the defense was disorganised with the 4 4 3 system .fox and hooveild .did hoo not score own goals as well .thr truth is cork has made the difference ,offerd more protection .i do believe we nedd another keeper .clearly gazz is not ready yet .borac i9m not sure .but he made a gaff and threw a bottle in the crowd .but maybe we should try him again .he has a good record[/p][/quote]my point exactly ..by the time the gooners game happened kelvin had already let in several softies, so the back 4 were in panic mode................ .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... ....and then there was yesterdays gift to Berbatov...... i agree try borat!! or borac whatever his name. redsnapper
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5:25pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

kent141 wrote:
When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.
He cant do it all on his own. You see him looking for a quick give and go all the time but he's so good he catches the other players out, Lallana understands him well I think but not Puncheon or Ricky.
Also his strike yesterday was world class.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: When a small premier club spends a lot of money on one player understandably the fans get carried away with themselves but come on seriously £12m for a player who looks average at best was money wasted and a chance missed of bringing in a couple of proven quality players for the same money.[/p][/quote]He cant do it all on his own. You see him looking for a quick give and go all the time but he's so good he catches the other players out, Lallana understands him well I think but not Puncheon or Ricky. Also his strike yesterday was world class. Nicole23
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5:27pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID[/p][/quote]At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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5:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?
Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?[/p][/quote]Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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5:34pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

Just watching the Boruc videos on You Tube, can someone else watch them and tell me if that doesnt make you a bit exited?
Just watching the Boruc videos on You Tube, can someone else watch them and tell me if that doesnt make you a bit exited? Nicole23
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5:36pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID[/p][/quote]At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime. Baddesley Bill
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5:38pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saints_alive says...

Typical that we miss out on Michu. 10 million cheaper and has already adapted himself to the PL. Ramirez will come good but will be sold soon after....
Typical that we miss out on Michu. 10 million cheaper and has already adapted himself to the PL. Ramirez will come good but will be sold soon after.... saints_alive
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5:40pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime.
Not another one ! They're all out today still come Saturday night they'll have something else to pontificate and whine about!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID[/p][/quote]At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime.[/p][/quote]Not another one ! They're all out today still come Saturday night they'll have something else to pontificate and whine about!!!! saintlysoul
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5:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.
Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!!
Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.
So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.
Sorry Os but I have to disagree.
Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways.
1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together
2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out

No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud.

STID
If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit.
So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation.


STID
Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.
It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too)
My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out.
(The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were!
I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are.


STID
Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID
No worries Os
We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke.
I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest.
Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it?

STID
At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime.
Not another one ! They're all out today still come Saturday night they'll have something else to pontificate and whine about!!!!
.. and you won't?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You are correct, I won't see Saints criticised, it's a trait that when you support your Club and back your team whatever goes wrong, it seems to me to be the right thing to do. The Rsoul is just a mild rebuke, shouldn't be using Saintly if you aren't.[/p][/quote]Thus you lack objectivity by implication so your comments become otiose!!!![/p][/quote]Then I suggest that you don't read or respond to them.[/p][/quote]So let me understand you. This is a forum where people post their views. If they don't agree with you they should pretend they haven't read your post and in any event should not respond to them. That's novel!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary, if I say something that is incorrect, I expect a reasoned argument about why I have got it wrong. If I think that you have got it wrong I will tell you so, in order to give you a reason to think "Why does he think that I got it wrong, perhaps he is right". However while I may consider that your text is correct, if it has a negative effect on our morale I ask why you feel the need to post negatively when you know it isn't helpful. "Two men looking through prison bars, one saw mud the other saw stars". I see stars, you only seem to see the mud.[/p][/quote]Sorry Os but I have to disagree. Recently the DE did a report on how NA asked players what was going wrong. This can be looked at in 2 ways. 1) He is an inclusive manager who likes his players to think, work together and come up with solutions, bonding the team together 2) He is a clueless manager who is so desperate to find the answers he consults his players to find out No doubt, as a positive thinker, you will go for No1 but both arguments have merit and substance. To be objective you must see the stars and the mud. STID[/p][/quote]If he is as clueless as you would have us believe, he will be found out in the next few months and like all failures will pay the ultimate penalty and no doubt you will be happy? If however he does listen to his Staff and reacts accordingly, I can only praise him for his initiative and if it works he will be regarded as something of a genius. The situation is very nebulus, if he needs my support for what he wants to do, he will get it, until such times that he departs for whatever reason. I will then transfer my support to the next Manager, whoever it is. You call it misguided loyalty if you like, I see it differently. I am a blinkered Saints supporter, STID.[/p][/quote]WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! I didn't advocate either position but merely pointed out that there is more than one perspective on every matter and that it all has merit. So I wouldn't have people believe anything thankyou very much and would suggest you refrain from jumping down throats unecessarily. I did not suggest it was misguided loyalty either. Please read the post as is, without misinterpretation. STID[/p][/quote]Advocate one or the other then, show your colours, you have offered two choices, select just one for now, you can change your mind later, there is no crime involved. I am sorry I assumed from the genral tone of many of your posts that option 2 was your present stance, forgive me if I have misread your attitude, basing it on my own somewhat biased view I opt for 1 at the moment, but it is open to alteration if things go bad.[/p][/quote]It wasn't a choice that had to be made Os, just an illustration of different points of view. I know that you were bound to choose No1 as you are a positive thinker (nothing misguided about that) and others will be negative (who are enitled to opinion too) My colours and the tone of my previous posts have not changed so you will know that I like and admire NA very much but believe he lacks tactical and technical ability. Please give me the grace to know that I would never call him clueless. I haven't called for his head as we owe him time to get things right. I hope he learns but haven't seen much evidence of this. For example: (The mud) He insists on playing the same style of football even to the point that he plays players out of position to accomplish it. This, imo, weakens the side, makes us predictable and one dimensional hence we are not free scoring as we were. We have been worked out. (The stars) Our defence has worked hard and have all stepped up as a unit and all credit to them and NA. We are not leaking goals as we were! I don't doubt your support, Os, it is quite obvious and you are to be commended for it but please don't doubt mine because I am more critical and see things differently. I can assure you I am no less a supporter than you are. STID[/p][/quote]Fogive me st1halo, Mistake on my behalf, I misread the sign on! Never doubted you for a minute, just me being argumentative as usual, I will never change, NA has been very frustrating this season, I support him all the way, but sometimes I have my doubts about whether what he does is for the best, and sometimes he gets it badly wrong, sometimes he is spot on with a tactic that is far from obvious, it's the mystery of it all that keeps me interested, but when they start waffling about 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3- 2-1 e.t.c. I tend to lose the plot a bit. You are right about the defence, we were getting paranoid about the left back position earlier and the solution was in the camp all of the time, how many more gems are going to come through with similar success? STID[/p][/quote]No worries Os We have more gems to come and I'd like to see JWP playing Saturday as he is a real fighter and make no mistake we will be in a fight against Stoke. I'd have a bit more faith in NA if he mixed up the play for a bit. I would have taken Davis off, shifted Gaston to the middle where he's best and put Fox on the left wing to get direct and pump balls into the box. Rickie is lethal in the box but we hardly see him there! He hangs outside waiting to lay the ball off but as we don't penetrate down the wings and pull them out of position, the box is full of defenders waiting. No coincidence that we don't get penalties! As I've said before, the fancy football is great to watch but we don't have enough depth to sustain it and should concentrate on winning regardless. Play players where they're strongest. Believe me if NA gets wise and starts to frustrate teams and collect points, nobody will be happier than me. I want him to succeed. Above all though, I want us to succeed. It's exciting though isn't it? STID[/p][/quote]At long last a quality post!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Agreed...You should try it yourself sometime.[/p][/quote]Not another one ! They're all out today still come Saturday night they'll have something else to pontificate and whine about!!!![/p][/quote].. and you won't? OSPREYSAINT
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5:45pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

Old Arry moaning on in the background " I said to the linesman how did you not see it? Linesman "Well it was a bit mirky down in that corner"
HA HA HA no one likes a crook Arry.
Old Arry moaning on in the background " I said to the linesman how did you not see it? Linesman "Well it was a bit mirky down in that corner" HA HA HA no one likes a crook Arry. Nicole23
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5:51pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?
Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point .
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?[/p][/quote]Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point . slugger
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5:54pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed. ghk230473
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5:58pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)
ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O) Baddesley Bill
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6:02pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)
Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)[/p][/quote]Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though! ghk230473
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6:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintgodders jnr says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here
At least we will still have a football club in march. Bye bye little boy
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: next point in march at home to qpr, pointless u being here[/p][/quote]At least we will still have a football club in march. Bye bye little boy saintgodders jnr
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6:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)
Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though!
Forgive my bravado...but I think it's in the bag. The Foundaton is a worthy cause.

In other news, I'm reading that NA is holding KD at fault for Fulham's goal. Yet another keeper for the January window then?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)[/p][/quote]Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though![/p][/quote]Forgive my bravado...but I think it's in the bag. The Foundaton is a worthy cause. In other news, I'm reading that NA is holding KD at fault for Fulham's goal. Yet another keeper for the January window then? Baddesley Bill
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6:16pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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6:18pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?
Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point .
What will you be saying when Saints are relegated eh? We will re-visit these posts!!!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?[/p][/quote]Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point .[/p][/quote]What will you be saying when Saints are relegated eh? We will re-visit these posts!!! saintlysoul
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6:22pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)
Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though!
Forgive my bravado...but I think it's in the bag. The Foundaton is a worthy cause.

In other news, I'm reading that NA is holding KD at fault for Fulham's goal. Yet another keeper for the January window then?
Forgiven, I'm surprised you didn't start earlier!
Kd has been very loyal granted but I'm sure he wouldn't expect a place on the back of that. He has a couple of years left and he would be a credit to a lower league team, we need some one to take no1 spot and improve gazza. It's survival of the fittest and they get well paid (and fed at training ground) no time for sentiment.
Not sure if Robinson is the answer but will see what develops there. I agree with Adkins he was at fault!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: ghk....we still good on that bet? ;O)[/p][/quote]Of course mate and yours is a worthy 1, I've got 3 days and counting though![/p][/quote]Forgive my bravado...but I think it's in the bag. The Foundaton is a worthy cause. In other news, I'm reading that NA is holding KD at fault for Fulham's goal. Yet another keeper for the January window then?[/p][/quote]Forgiven, I'm surprised you didn't start earlier! Kd has been very loyal granted but I'm sure he wouldn't expect a place on the back of that. He has a couple of years left and he would be a credit to a lower league team, we need some one to take no1 spot and improve gazza. It's survival of the fittest and they get well paid (and fed at training ground) no time for sentiment. Not sure if Robinson is the answer but will see what develops there. I agree with Adkins he was at fault! ghk230473
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6:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?
Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point .
What an embarrassing thing to say Ramirez is as good if not better than Berbatov the latter has a proven record in the Premier League. He can score gals. You need to attend live games and watch matches!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]dear mr r soul ..... ghk often moans about saints and has many a disagreement on here , but he is indeed a true saints supporter ............ is he not allowed to think gaston is class ?[/p][/quote]Oh God not another self righteous individual!!!! Why not tell us what you think rather than hide behind someone else's view!!!! By the way, your name - shouldn't the SL being dropped and the letter B substituted? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]as you are a champion of "everybody's oppinions are valid" i ask again why you insult ghk for expressing his ? ........... for the record i think gaston is quality but that is besides the point .[/p][/quote]What an embarrassing thing to say Ramirez is as good if not better than Berbatov the latter has a proven record in the Premier League. He can score gals. You need to attend live games and watch matches!!!!!! saintlysoul
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6:27pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

R Soul has proven himself....either:

1) To have a crystal ball

2) To be stupid

or 3) To be a wum

...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O)
R Soul has proven himself....either: 1) To have a crystal ball 2) To be stupid or 3) To be a wum ...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O) Baddesley Bill
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6:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

saintlysoul , why don't you answer my question ?
saintlysoul , why don't you answer my question ? slugger
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6:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
R Soul has proven himself....either:

1) To have a crystal ball

2) To be stupid

or 3) To be a wum

...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O)
Try and be mature. Lets predict the next two results - Stoke 2 Southampton 0 ; Southampton 0 Arsenal 3 well Bill what's your prediction?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: R Soul has proven himself....either: 1) To have a crystal ball 2) To be stupid or 3) To be a wum ...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O)[/p][/quote]Try and be mature. Lets predict the next two results - Stoke 2 Southampton 0 ; Southampton 0 Arsenal 3 well Bill what's your prediction? saintlysoul
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6:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible. ghk230473
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6:38pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
R Soul has proven himself....either:

1) To have a crystal ball

2) To be stupid

or 3) To be a wum

...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O)
Try and be mature. Lets predict the next two results - Stoke 2 Southampton 0 ; Southampton 0 Arsenal 3 well Bill what's your prediction?
Two very tough games for a newly promoted Club admitedly...

...I won't make a prediction as my crystal ball is malfunctioning sadly.

...I'll just let you know my thoughts after...as I am going to both.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: R Soul has proven himself....either: 1) To have a crystal ball 2) To be stupid or 3) To be a wum ...I'm going for 2 or 3...or possibly both :O)[/p][/quote]Try and be mature. Lets predict the next two results - Stoke 2 Southampton 0 ; Southampton 0 Arsenal 3 well Bill what's your prediction?[/p][/quote]Two very tough games for a newly promoted Club admitedly... ...I won't make a prediction as my crystal ball is malfunctioning sadly. ...I'll just let you know my thoughts after...as I am going to both. Baddesley Bill
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6:38pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

to think that gaston is worth 4 times the entire pompey setup (including the cow shed) always brings a little smile to my face ...... what about you saintlysoul ? ......... that's 2 questions for you now .
to think that gaston is worth 4 times the entire pompey setup (including the cow shed) always brings a little smile to my face ...... what about you saintlysoul ? ......... that's 2 questions for you now . slugger
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6:40pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.
Agree, he's only 22 & still learning the lingo as well as English footy.

I'd rather watch Saints with Ramirez than Stoke any day.

We should be aspirational by acquiring & coaching the inspirational.

As for the guy who reckons we'll lose to Stoke, Arsenal & be relegated - I'd love to have a wager with him & laugh as I take his cash in May!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.[/p][/quote]Agree, he's only 22 & still learning the lingo as well as English footy. I'd rather watch Saints with Ramirez than Stoke any day. We should be aspirational by acquiring & coaching the inspirational. As for the guy who reckons we'll lose to Stoke, Arsenal & be relegated - I'd love to have a wager with him & laugh as I take his cash in May! Rob The Saint NOT in NZ
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6:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.
Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.[/p][/quote]Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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6:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Sorry, 'they're not'.
Sorry, 'they're not'. saintlysoul
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6:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.
Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!!
berbatov ?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.[/p][/quote]Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!![/p][/quote]berbatov ? slugger
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6:50pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too.
Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.
Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!!
Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.
Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!!
You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.
Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!!
berbatov ?
Yes!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Osprey give him the marker pen and stamp, there's room left for this loon to put what he knows on there too. Ramirez is class and worth the money spent end of, just needs like wise players around him. Lallana is a big miss even if adders thinks different.[/p][/quote]Another one who can't see Saints criticised how can anybody who has watched Saints games refer to Ramirez as 'class' he's a player with a couple of tricks a nobody who somehow persuaded a football club to buy him for an inflated ridiculous price. Now class is a word that can be used to describe Berbatov he was sublime yesterday in touch, balance and vision. If only Saints had a player with his ability!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mark my words fella Ramirez is as good if not better than berbatov. He has pace something berbatov never had. I don't wish to discuss further as you're not a football person...... It's as obvious a the t1t on yer ed.[/p][/quote]Another small minded individual who resorts to gratuitous abuse when he has run out of things to say. You know as well as all of us that Ramirez is a massive disappointment and is basically a poor player no where near the quality required for the Premier League a no body that will disappear as quick as he arrived to be remembered as that 'waste of money' !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You are just talking out of your ars3 fella. Gaston is a cracking buy and a player I don't mind paying to watch. Did you not see the villa or Newcastle games? He's quick footed, brave, aggressive and works back. He will play better in a free role and needs to have the ball like lallana as much as possible.[/p][/quote]Well you're entitled to your opinion I really would love to believe what you say but let's jut see time will tell he may well come good I'm just not holding my breath. What annoys me is how foreign players come in to this league taking the place of our home grown talent. What hope is there for our talent our national squad when these teams are full of foreign players. Look at all the top clubs full of foreign players its a disgrace. Leaving aside JWP we have in the under 21s a fantastic player Lloyd Isgrove. He has fantastic pace great control and an abundance of skill yet can't get in the team because of the likes Guly, Ramirez, Spider, Rodriguez, etc. if these plays were outstanding the position may be palatable but their not!!!!!!![/p][/quote]berbatov ?[/p][/quote]Yes! saintlysoul
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6:52pm Thu 27 Dec 12

SaintMax says...

Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul.
Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul. SaintMax
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6:54pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!! ghk230473
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6:55pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

Ha ha
Ha ha saintlysoul
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7:01pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English. Baddesley Bill
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7:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window. ghk230473
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7:10pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

SaintMax wrote:
Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul.
I think Saintlysoul got the brain cell to be fair..

..just the one.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul.[/p][/quote]I think Saintlysoul got the brain cell to be fair.. ..just the one. Baddesley Bill
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7:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

saintlysoul says...

I will take that as a compliment!!!! X
I will take that as a compliment!!!! X saintlysoul
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7:17pm Thu 27 Dec 12

kent141 says...

Bill flaps around on here more than cross eyed Clarence does in goal ;0)
Bill flaps around on here more than cross eyed Clarence does in goal ;0) kent141
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7:26pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises. Baddesley Bill
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7:29pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins . slugger
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7:35pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
Hindsight is a marvellous thing but most managers do think about building from the back, I still think more signings last year should have been made too. Saying that I'm pleased we have Ramirez.
A centre half in the killer mould and an experienced proven goal keeper a must. Need to off load more, depending who we bring in but there are definates such as Barnard and Hammond that need to be off the pay role permanent.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]Hindsight is a marvellous thing but most managers do think about building from the back, I still think more signings last year should have been made too. Saying that I'm pleased we have Ramirez. A centre half in the killer mould and an experienced proven goal keeper a must. Need to off load more, depending who we bring in but there are definates such as Barnard and Hammond that need to be off the pay role permanent. ghk230473
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7:39pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .
There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .[/p][/quote]There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win! ghk230473
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7:52pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .
There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win!
lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .[/p][/quote]There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win![/p][/quote]lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo . slugger
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8:09pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .
There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win!
lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo .
In the few games I saw him play I was impressed with his talking, it was non stop and he reminded me of a young Tony Adams. Definate potential and local lad, would nice to see him return improved and confident....... And would be free.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .[/p][/quote]There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win![/p][/quote]lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo .[/p][/quote]In the few games I saw him play I was impressed with his talking, it was non stop and he reminded me of a young Tony Adams. Definate potential and local lad, would nice to see him return improved and confident....... And would be free. ghk230473
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8:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Sorry, 'they're not'.
Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!!
Agreed...

Rodrigues IS English.
I think he will come good too, not sure on price though.
A lot more outs than in in window.
JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag.

You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O)

...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.
i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .
There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win!
lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo .
In the few games I saw him play I was impressed with his talking, it was non stop and he reminded me of a young Tony Adams. Definate potential and local lad, would nice to see him return improved and confident....... And would be free.
free for sure , he's still our player ...... he's also my mates sons' mate (hope that makes sense).
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Sorry, 'they're not'.[/p][/quote]Rodrigues is English. We tried bringing players like that thru before and it didn't work, too much too soon. Our youngsters will definitely benefit from the likes of Ramirez being around, I truly believe he is class and will get better. I'm no way a massive fan of na and he has IMO made plenty of mistakes in the past but I would think more of cortese if he gave him a fair crack at it. Plenty have high lighted qpr's plight and it is reported that team spirit is sh1t there. New goalie, centre half and left back to not put too much on Luke shaw, who is also class. Softly softly catchee monkey, walk down the hill and sh4g em all!![/p][/quote]Agreed... Rodrigues IS English.[/p][/quote]I think he will come good too, not sure on price though. A lot more outs than in in window.[/p][/quote]JayRod has a lot to prove for sure...£7mill (or so) was quite a price tag. You'll remember that many fans were beying out for a signing at the time ;O) ...January will be interesting...but I wouldn't expect any major surprises.[/p][/quote]i agree with ghk , lots of outs and 2 or 3 ins .[/p][/quote]There are players that have played their part but unfortunately are not up to it, they wouldn't want to be here not even warming the bench and need to be shifted on. Might help those sanity was on about flourish, then he can leave our gaston alone ;) win win![/p][/quote]lol , he contradicts himself so much it's painful ........... i'd like to see aaron martin come back , showed lots of promise imo .[/p][/quote]In the few games I saw him play I was impressed with his talking, it was non stop and he reminded me of a young Tony Adams. Definate potential and local lad, would nice to see him return improved and confident....... And would be free.[/p][/quote]free for sure , he's still our player ...... he's also my mates sons' mate (hope that makes sense). slugger
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8:17pm Thu 27 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Haywards strong large pickled onions or sweet silverskin small pickled onions....ummmmm
Haywards strong large pickled onions or sweet silverskin small pickled onions....ummmmm J7junctionseven
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8:26pm Thu 27 Dec 12

More Glory says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
SaintMax wrote: Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul.
I think Saintlysoul got the brain cell to be fair.. ..just the one.
how funny is this

http://www.footytube
.com/forums/funny-fo
otball/football-look
alikes-1342/26/?orde
r=oldest

I like the Joe Jordan one
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Separated at birth... Kent 141 and Saintlysoul.[/p][/quote]I think Saintlysoul got the brain cell to be fair.. ..just the one.[/p][/quote]how funny is this http://www.footytube .com/forums/funny-fo otball/football-look alikes-1342/26/?orde r=oldest I like the Joe Jordan one More Glory
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8:30pm Thu 27 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

M&S Onion Chutney or good old original Branston Pickle...uummm..
M&S Onion Chutney or good old original Branston Pickle...uummm.. J7junctionseven
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9:13pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Nemesisaint says...

According to the FA Suspension list, Stoke City players Ryan Shawcross and Geoffrey Cameron are out of Saturdays game, two of their best defenders. No doubt they have good replacements.
According to the FA Suspension list, Stoke City players Ryan Shawcross and Geoffrey Cameron are out of Saturdays game, two of their best defenders. No doubt they have good replacements. Nemesisaint
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9:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Nemesisaint says...

Alex McLeish is the new Forest gaffer.
Alex McLeish is the new Forest gaffer. Nemesisaint
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9:32pm Thu 27 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
M&S Onion Chutney or good old original Branston Pickle...uummm..
There's only one way to find out!
FIGHT.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: M&S Onion Chutney or good old original Branston Pickle...uummm..[/p][/quote]There's only one way to find out! FIGHT. warrens 76
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9:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

City Saint says...

Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home.

We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb.

The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy.

If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2.
Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home. We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb. The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy. If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2. City Saint
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9:59pm Thu 27 Dec 12

City Saint says...

By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland.

And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best.

Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations.
By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland. And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best. Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations. City Saint
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10:02pm Thu 27 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

I wish I had a crystal ball. It sounds like so much fun.....
International cheese board or Trifle and a slice of Christmas Pudding an fresh cream.....uummm
I wish I had a crystal ball. It sounds like so much fun..... International cheese board or Trifle and a slice of Christmas Pudding an fresh cream.....uummm J7junctionseven
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10:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

City Saint wrote:
By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland.

And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best.

Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations.
we are talking premiership.. where england players are lucky to get a job.

England are well over rated.. boring and over coached and lack management because of big head players and poncie big bossess.

Nigel is a breath of fresh air in football and gaston can play where he likes.. it reminds me of the school play ground.. two best out front first and they pick it from there.

The posts in here are the loud mouths that probably got pick last haha.

Pinch of salt.... innit COYR
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland. And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best. Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations.[/p][/quote]we are talking premiership.. where england players are lucky to get a job. England are well over rated.. boring and over coached and lack management because of big head players and poncie big bossess. Nigel is a breath of fresh air in football and gaston can play where he likes.. it reminds me of the school play ground.. two best out front first and they pick it from there. The posts in here are the loud mouths that probably got pick last haha. Pinch of salt.... innit COYR Tirau Dan
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11:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

RedArmy1 says...

City Saint wrote:
Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home.

We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb.

The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy.

If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2.
Stoke will be tough. They are not the ordinary team their Manager sells them as. They are bottom or near the bottom of the Fair Play League and will fight tooth and nail not to concede.

I have posted that I am concerned about the Goalkeeping situation - and if we are relegated this is an area that we could have done something about.

Gazza gave away 4 points vs Swansea and Norwich and Kelvin gave away 2 points on Saturday.

A good Keeper get you 10 points extra a Season - We don't have that.

This is not the blame game - this is where we need to improve to remain in the Premiership.

You could argue that the Defence has cost lots of points and the way we played in the first 8 games. This area has been greatly improved and if you the Club buy a Top Quality Centre Half in the January Window - this will continue to strengthen the Team.

There are further improvements needed to our developing Team. Until the penalty yesterday and despite all the pressure - I could not see the MIGHTY SAINTS scoring yesterday. J Rod was a Top Player last season and playing him out of position this Season and the Step up has meant he has not had the success.

I don't agree that we should lose the plot against Arsenal. Bradford kept them at bay for 70 minutes where they did not have a shot on Target - why not THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

WE OWE ARSENAL - and nothing would please me more than the 1-0 WIN to the Saints.

We have the Second Half of the Season to look forward to - but without a Top Keeper we will have to FIGHT to the final day or be relegated.

BETTER to get the reality check now and start the FIGHT than sit with rose coloured glasses until the final few games.

ALL THE SUPPORTERS need to get behind the Team. The Passion in League One and the Championship is not as intense in our Premiership Games and without good or winning football it creates a flat atmosphere.

I don't enjoy or go to games to lose and will not write off the Team against Everton or Chelsea or Man City.

WE FIGHT AND WIN (or be relegated)

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home. We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb. The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy. If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2.[/p][/quote]Stoke will be tough. They are not the ordinary team their Manager sells them as. They are bottom or near the bottom of the Fair Play League and will fight tooth and nail not to concede. I have posted that I am concerned about the Goalkeeping situation - and if we are relegated this is an area that we could have done something about. Gazza gave away 4 points vs Swansea and Norwich and Kelvin gave away 2 points on Saturday. A good Keeper get you 10 points extra a Season - We don't have that. This is not the blame game - this is where we need to improve to remain in the Premiership. You could argue that the Defence has cost lots of points and the way we played in the first 8 games. This area has been greatly improved and if you the Club buy a Top Quality Centre Half in the January Window - this will continue to strengthen the Team. There are further improvements needed to our developing Team. Until the penalty yesterday and despite all the pressure - I could not see the MIGHTY SAINTS scoring yesterday. J Rod was a Top Player last season and playing him out of position this Season and the Step up has meant he has not had the success. I don't agree that we should lose the plot against Arsenal. Bradford kept them at bay for 70 minutes where they did not have a shot on Target - why not THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE OWE ARSENAL - and nothing would please me more than the 1-0 WIN to the Saints. We have the Second Half of the Season to look forward to - but without a Top Keeper we will have to FIGHT to the final day or be relegated. BETTER to get the reality check now and start the FIGHT than sit with rose coloured glasses until the final few games. ALL THE SUPPORTERS need to get behind the Team. The Passion in League One and the Championship is not as intense in our Premiership Games and without good or winning football it creates a flat atmosphere. I don't enjoy or go to games to lose and will not write off the Team against Everton or Chelsea or Man City. WE FIGHT AND WIN (or be relegated) WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR. RedArmy1
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11:32pm Thu 27 Dec 12

City Saint says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
City Saint wrote: Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home. We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb. The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy. If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2.
Stoke will be tough. They are not the ordinary team their Manager sells them as. They are bottom or near the bottom of the Fair Play League and will fight tooth and nail not to concede. I have posted that I am concerned about the Goalkeeping situation - and if we are relegated this is an area that we could have done something about. Gazza gave away 4 points vs Swansea and Norwich and Kelvin gave away 2 points on Saturday. A good Keeper get you 10 points extra a Season - We don't have that. This is not the blame game - this is where we need to improve to remain in the Premiership. You could argue that the Defence has cost lots of points and the way we played in the first 8 games. This area has been greatly improved and if you the Club buy a Top Quality Centre Half in the January Window - this will continue to strengthen the Team. There are further improvements needed to our developing Team. Until the penalty yesterday and despite all the pressure - I could not see the MIGHTY SAINTS scoring yesterday. J Rod was a Top Player last season and playing him out of position this Season and the Step up has meant he has not had the success. I don't agree that we should lose the plot against Arsenal. Bradford kept them at bay for 70 minutes where they did not have a shot on Target - why not THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE OWE ARSENAL - and nothing would please me more than the 1-0 WIN to the Saints. We have the Second Half of the Season to look forward to - but without a Top Keeper we will have to FIGHT to the final day or be relegated. BETTER to get the reality check now and start the FIGHT than sit with rose coloured glasses until the final few games. ALL THE SUPPORTERS need to get behind the Team. The Passion in League One and the Championship is not as intense in our Premiership Games and without good or winning football it creates a flat atmosphere. I don't enjoy or go to games to lose and will not write off the Team against Everton or Chelsea or Man City. WE FIGHT AND WIN (or be relegated) WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
Lol, well I definitely hope you are right!

I'm looking forward to the games against arsenal, Everton and city at home, because on our day we can give any one of them a game.

If the pressure is off a bit and the crowd bring the atmosphere, we might even nick some points.

Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Saints will valiantly battle to a nil-nil draw at stoke and lose the plot again against arsenal at home. We will be bottom three after arsenal as a result, but we will have chances quickly after that against villa away on the 12th and Wigan away on feb 2 (revenge?) and Newcastle away on feb 23 (the double on pardew!) which should be enough to see us at 17th by end of feb. The game in hand with Chelski, plus the home games to man city and Everton are all write-offs, so those are games to enjoy. If all goes to script, we can pretty much seal our fate with the home game against qpr on march 2.[/p][/quote]Stoke will be tough. They are not the ordinary team their Manager sells them as. They are bottom or near the bottom of the Fair Play League and will fight tooth and nail not to concede. I have posted that I am concerned about the Goalkeeping situation - and if we are relegated this is an area that we could have done something about. Gazza gave away 4 points vs Swansea and Norwich and Kelvin gave away 2 points on Saturday. A good Keeper get you 10 points extra a Season - We don't have that. This is not the blame game - this is where we need to improve to remain in the Premiership. You could argue that the Defence has cost lots of points and the way we played in the first 8 games. This area has been greatly improved and if you the Club buy a Top Quality Centre Half in the January Window - this will continue to strengthen the Team. There are further improvements needed to our developing Team. Until the penalty yesterday and despite all the pressure - I could not see the MIGHTY SAINTS scoring yesterday. J Rod was a Top Player last season and playing him out of position this Season and the Step up has meant he has not had the success. I don't agree that we should lose the plot against Arsenal. Bradford kept them at bay for 70 minutes where they did not have a shot on Target - why not THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE OWE ARSENAL - and nothing would please me more than the 1-0 WIN to the Saints. We have the Second Half of the Season to look forward to - but without a Top Keeper we will have to FIGHT to the final day or be relegated. BETTER to get the reality check now and start the FIGHT than sit with rose coloured glasses until the final few games. ALL THE SUPPORTERS need to get behind the Team. The Passion in League One and the Championship is not as intense in our Premiership Games and without good or winning football it creates a flat atmosphere. I don't enjoy or go to games to lose and will not write off the Team against Everton or Chelsea or Man City. WE FIGHT AND WIN (or be relegated) WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.[/p][/quote]Lol, well I definitely hope you are right! I'm looking forward to the games against arsenal, Everton and city at home, because on our day we can give any one of them a game. If the pressure is off a bit and the crowd bring the atmosphere, we might even nick some points. Cheers. City Saint
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11:39pm Thu 27 Dec 12

City Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
City Saint wrote: By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland. And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best. Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations.
we are talking premiership.. where england players are lucky to get a job. England are well over rated.. boring and over coached and lack management because of big head players and poncie big bossess. Nigel is a breath of fresh air in football and gaston can play where he likes.. it reminds me of the school play ground.. two best out front first and they pick it from there. The posts in here are the loud mouths that probably got pick last haha. Pinch of salt.... innit COYR
Agree with you about England. They'll be better with Clyne, Shaw and Cork in the side!

On gaston, he really doesn't look good to me on the left - his close control and trickery have made him look totally lethal inside behind Lambo when he's played there.

He scares the bejesus out of lumbering center halves when he starts moving around with the ball in the box but full backs are better equipped against him.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: By the way, Adkins (with respect) should stop intimg to the fact that Uruguay play gaston on the left as a reason why he plays him on the left with saints. We could all see that he was as useless a Athena proverbial teapot on the left againt Sunderland. And Uruguay languish at 16th in the world football rankings this month, down five places, despite having a golden generation of footballers that comes around once in a lifetime at best. Even England are 6th (despite not playing sir rickie), and Uruguay languish behind he mighty Switzerland, Ecuador, Ivory Coast and Mexico. The only reason the coach at Uruguay hasn't been taken to task is that brazil are rated only the 18th best club in world ramnkings these days (maybe Guly has a chance after all), which taken pressure off all the other latin nations.[/p][/quote]we are talking premiership.. where england players are lucky to get a job. England are well over rated.. boring and over coached and lack management because of big head players and poncie big bossess. Nigel is a breath of fresh air in football and gaston can play where he likes.. it reminds me of the school play ground.. two best out front first and they pick it from there. The posts in here are the loud mouths that probably got pick last haha. Pinch of salt.... innit COYR[/p][/quote]Agree with you about England. They'll be better with Clyne, Shaw and Cork in the side! On gaston, he really doesn't look good to me on the left - his close control and trickery have made him look totally lethal inside behind Lambo when he's played there. He scares the bejesus out of lumbering center halves when he starts moving around with the ball in the box but full backs are better equipped against him. City Saint
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11:43pm Thu 27 Dec 12

City Saint says...

Btw reason number 1,234,598 to stay away from p*mpey. Only down that end of the motorway would this not be seen as suspicious...

http://www.portsmout
h.co.uk/news/local/b
ody-washes-up-on-gos
port-beach-1-4618458
Btw reason number 1,234,598 to stay away from p*mpey. Only down that end of the motorway would this not be seen as suspicious... http://www.portsmout h.co.uk/news/local/b ody-washes-up-on-gos port-beach-1-4618458 City Saint
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12:35am Fri 28 Dec 12

promised land says...

saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Similar to pfc, a waste of money. Should be allowed to become extinct.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Similar to pfc, a waste of money. Should be allowed to become extinct. promised land
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6:23am Fri 28 Dec 12

Pogle says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
I'll go with Osprey!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]I'll go with Osprey! Pogle
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12:59pm Fri 28 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Pogle wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!!
Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.
Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.
I'll go with Osprey!
You are welcome, but I can be very tedious!
[quote][p][bold]Pogle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I think he should be allowed to roam -in a shopping Centre on match days!! A total flop and waste of money!!!!![/p][/quote]Call yourself a Saints supporter? I say again replace saintly with an R that sums you up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Osprey I forgot you can't see Saints criticised you're being saying the same same thing when they're in the Championship. Look at you. You hear something you don't like so what do you do suggest I be called RSOUL. Is that the extent of your intellect? How many other posters are fed up with your self righteous posts! Wake up sunshine and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]I'll go with Osprey![/p][/quote]You are welcome, but I can be very tedious! OSPREYSAINT
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1:37pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Left Right where does this mush fit in then!
Left Right where does this mush fit in then! Fatty x Ford Worker
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1:39pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

I always thought that great strikers hunted in pairs when playing one up front such a gamble!
I always thought that great strikers hunted in pairs when playing one up front such a gamble! Fatty x Ford Worker
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1:41pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Please dont leave are fullbacks exposed again otherwise a hammering coming againt the Potters!
Please dont leave are fullbacks exposed again otherwise a hammering coming againt the Potters! Fatty x Ford Worker
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3:43am Sat 29 Dec 12

Pogle says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Haywards strong large pickled onions or sweet silverskin small pickled onions....ummmmm
Go the "Chilli pickled"
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Haywards strong large pickled onions or sweet silverskin small pickled onions....ummmmm[/p][/quote]Go the "Chilli pickled" Pogle
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