LiveStoke 3 Saints 3

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Summary

  • Saints back in relegation zone after thrilling draw
  • Rickie Lambert opened scoring in early stages
  • Kenwyne Jones equalised against old club.
  • Jay Rodriguez and Andy Wilkinson og had made it 3-1 at half-time
  • Matthew Upson and Cameron Jerome goals rescue a point for Stoke

6:15pm

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4:58pm

Saints drop to 18th after today's results. Reaction to follow on the website later...

4:54pm

FULL-TIME: Stoke 3 Saints 3

4:53pm

GOAL: Stoke 3 Saints 3 (Cameron Jerome 90): Jerome unleashes a stunning strike from 25 yards that cannons in off the underside of the bar. Astonishing strike.

4:32pm

RED CARD (71 mins): Stoke are reduced to ten men after Steven Nzonzi is shown a red card for a late tackle on Jack Cork.

4:29pm

PENALTY APPEAL (68 mins): Saints are very fortunate to escape after Jose Fonte  appears to handle  in the area. Mark Clattenburg waves play on, however.

4:27pm

GOAL Stoke 2 Saints 3 (Upson 67): Saints pay for Guly's miss, as Upson sweeps home after Saints fail to clear a corner.

4:26pm

CHANCE (66 mins): Lambert slips in Rodriguez, but Begovic saves from him with his feet. The ball drops to Guly, who has an open goal, but he lashes his shot wide.

4:23pm

CHANCE (63 mins): Jay Rodriguez gets to Jack Cork's through ball before Asmir Begovic. He goes round the Stoke keeper, but has his shot blocked by Robert Huth.

3:50pm

HALF-TIME: Stoke 1 Saints 3

3:42pm

Apologies for the delay in updates. Stoke's notoriously poor internet access has struck.

3:41pm

GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 3 (Wilkinson og 36): Puncheon's cross from the right is nodded down by Lambert and turned into his own net by Wilkinson under pressure from Rodriguez.

3:40pm

GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 2 (Jay Rodriguez 24): Rickie Lambert puts in a cross from the right. Robert Huth stretches out a leg to try and clear it, but diverts the ball against the bar. The rebound falls kindly to Jay Rodriguez, who gets his reward for following in and converts from close range.

3:19pm

GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 1 (Kenwyne Jones 16): Ryan Shotton nutmegs Luke Shaw and delivers a low ball that Kenwyne Jones sublimely backheels/flicks across goal to equalise against his former club.

3:15pm

Former Saints defender Ken Jones has died. For more click here

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10131721.Former_Saints_defender_dies/

3:14pm

CHANCE (12 mins): Kenwyne Jones should have equalised against his former club almost immediately, as Steven Nzonzi's deflected shot gifts him the ball six yards out, but he scuffs his effort wide as Kelvin Davis races from his goal to charge him down.

3:13pm

GOAL: Stoke 0 Saints 1 (Lambert 10): Guly do Prado gets the ball on the left and delivers a beautiful in-swinging cross to the far post, which Rickie Lambert races in to side-foot home.

2:57pm

The teams are out here at the Britannia Stadium. Saints in their yellow strip this afternoon. Kick-off just a few moments away now. We will have updates here for you throughout the match.

2:38pm

Stoke manager Tony Pulis oversaw a 3-1 Boxing Day victory over Liverpool at the Britannia Stadium, but believes today’s fixture against Saints could be an even harder prospect:


In many respects the Southampton game will be the toughest of the two because of the raised expectations. Southampton are giving it a good go and they will be a big challenge for us, especially if we are not up for the game. The other night was tremendous for everyone, and the players deserved their praise for the wonderful effort they put in. But that is gone and now we have to raise ourselves for another challenge.

Tony Pulis

2:35pm

 

I remember playing against Stoke when Tony was in charge when we were at Scunthorpe. They’ve come a long way, they’ve stabilised in the Premier League, they know what they’re about, they work hard, but they can play football as well. People have got this stigma that maybe it’s a long ball game. It’s effective football, but they do play some good football as well. They’re on a good run of form. It’s a game we should look forward to, not be fearful of. The Britannia Stadium is notoriously very loud, but we’ve got to go there full of confidence ourselves. We’ve got to go there with belief. They don’t concede that many goals, so we’ve got to be bright to give ourselves opportunities to score goals as well.

Saints manager Nigel Adkins

2:26pm

2:25pm

Apologies for the lack of build-up on today's blog. Heavy traffic on the way to Stoke meant a late arrival at the ground.

2:25pm

Three changes for Saints this afternoon. Nathaniel Clyne misses out, meaning Jos Hooiveld is drafted into the back four, with Maya Yoshida going into the right back position. Guly do Prado comes in for Gaston Ramirez on the left of midfield, while Jay Rodriguez replaces Steven Davis and is likely to partner Rickie Lambert in attack.

2:23pm

THE LINE-UPS:

STOKE: Begovic, Shotton, Huth, Upson, Wilkinson, Kightly, Whelan, Nzonzi, Etherington, Walters, Jones.

Subs: Sorensen, Palacios, Owen, Adam, Whitehead, Crouch, Jerome.

SAINTS: Davis; Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw; Puncheon, Cork, Schneiderlin, Guly; Rodriguez, Lambert.

Subs: Boruc, Richardson, Fox, S Davis, De Ridder, Ramirez, Mayuka.

Referee: M Clattenburg.

12:47pm

Stoke have defenders Ryan Shawcross and Geoff Cameron suspended which means likely calls ups for Matthew Upson and Ryan Shotton.

12:37pm

Adam Lallana remains out injured but otherwise Nigel Adkins is expected to have a fully fit squad to choose from.

12:33pm

Welcome to the Daily Echo's coverage of Stoke v Saints.

Saints are hoping to build on their point at Fulham but Maya Yoshida admits it will be tough against a bouyant Stoke side who are yet to lose at home this season. "It will be a really, really tough game I think," the Japan international said. "Stoke have not lost a home game this season. "They have many, many tall guys so it will be a more physical game. "We have to give away less free-kicks, corner kicks and deep throw-ins otherwise they will put many, many long balls in the box. We have to think about this. "Of course every time I want to win a game but this time it would be really nice because they haven't lost a home game (for a long time)."

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12:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

if we can run the midfield we can get something out of this game i would like to see jwp and or tad lee start only nigel know what goes on, on the training ground
if we can run the midfield we can get something out of this game i would like to see jwp and or tad lee start only nigel know what goes on, on the training ground up saints
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1:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

St Denys checking
in.
St Denys checking in. mack chinnon
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1:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

batesieboy says...

Stoke City are getting a bit full of themselves...they are not that great, just hoofers like Wet Spam. So it's just important not to let Stoke bully...Saints must give as good as they get in every challenge. Unlike the team performed (not) against Sunderland. If SFC can't do this, and compete with ordinary teams like Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan, etc. then we shouldn't be in the Premiership. Today is a good day to prove how good they are, so come on you Saints!
Stoke City are getting a bit full of themselves...they are not that great, just hoofers like Wet Spam. So it's just important not to let Stoke bully...Saints must give as good as they get in every challenge. Unlike the team performed (not) against Sunderland. If SFC can't do this, and compete with ordinary teams like Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan, etc. then we shouldn't be in the Premiership. Today is a good day to prove how good they are, so come on you Saints! batesieboy
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1:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Cmon Saints - no joke let's poke Stoke
and that Pullis Bloke.

Yee Ha COYR
Cmon Saints - no joke let's poke Stoke and that Pullis Bloke. Yee Ha COYR Tirau Dan
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2:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Portugal checking in - briefly! I fly at 7pm but I think we're leaving here shortly to go shopping on the way to Porto airport. If so, I won't reach the airport before kick off and don't yet know if I can watch the match on Internet at the aiport.

Of course, being Portugal, plans could change at any time :(
Portugal checking in - briefly! I fly at 7pm but I think we're leaving here shortly to go shopping on the way to Porto airport. If so, I won't reach the airport before kick off and don't yet know if I can watch the match on Internet at the aiport. Of course, being Portugal, plans could change at any time :( Strasbourg Saint
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2:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Cmon Saints - no joke let's poke Stoke
and that Pullis Bloke.

Yee Ha COYR
Morning Dan, I wonder what time you AWOKE!
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cmon Saints - no joke let's poke Stoke and that Pullis Bloke. Yee Ha COYR[/p][/quote]Morning Dan, I wonder what time you AWOKE! Strasbourg Saint
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2:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Hello from over here. A midnight kickoff, and were on tv.
Hello from over here. A midnight kickoff, and were on tv. Rising_Son
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2:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

how the hell is boruc in goal hope iam proved wrong
how the hell is boruc in goal hope iam proved wrong up saints
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2:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
From twitter: K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert. Tirau Dan
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2:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hoover getting a start.
Hoover getting a start. OSPREYSAINT
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2:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

up saints wrote:
how the hell is boruc in goal hope iam proved wrong
forget that quote
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: how the hell is boruc in goal hope iam proved wrong[/p][/quote]forget that quote up saints
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2:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

It's Clyne injured?
It's Clyne injured? Rising_Son
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2:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.

I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.

As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?

Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: From twitter: K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.[/p][/quote]Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together. I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today. As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured? Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping ..... Strasbourg Saint
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2:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

strange team? horses for courses or injuries? subs might tell us! but not a game for fancy footwork . it will be tough and wet again!
strange team? horses for courses or injuries? subs might tell us! but not a game for fancy footwork . it will be tough and wet again! arm chair fan
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2:20pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Going for a bit more muscle at the back , interested to see the bench .
Going for a bit more muscle at the back , interested to see the bench . slugger
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2:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SUBS Boruc. S Davis. Rambo. Fox. Mayuka. Richardson. De Rid
SUBS Boruc. S Davis. Rambo. Fox. Mayuka. Richardson. De Rid OSPREYSAINT
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2:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

InCortesewetrust says...

As saints don't play rugby, If we come away with a point today we have done brilliant, Stoke are the best worsed team in the prem,
As saints don't play rugby, If we come away with a point today we have done brilliant, Stoke are the best worsed team in the prem, InCortesewetrust
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2:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation
well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation up saints
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2:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

slugger wrote:
Going for a bit more muscle at the back , interested to see the bench .
and height for crouch or jones, we know there will be high crosses to deal with,
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Going for a bit more muscle at the back , interested to see the bench .[/p][/quote]and height for crouch or jones, we know there will be high crosses to deal with, arm chair fan
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2:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Quite a bit of pace on the bench there .
Quite a bit of pace on the bench there . slugger
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2:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

up saints wrote:
well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation
I guess it is horses for courses, we need Rambo to show his skills against Arsenal, not to pick up a fine selection of bruises today.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation[/p][/quote]I guess it is horses for courses, we need Rambo to show his skills against Arsenal, not to pick up a fine selection of bruises today. OSPREYSAINT
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2:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

up saints wrote:
well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation
think feeling maybe guly will not be kicked out of game os easily, save the trickes for arsenal, this may not be a nice place to be! hope it workes.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation[/p][/quote]think feeling maybe guly will not be kicked out of game os easily, save the trickes for arsenal, this may not be a nice place to be! hope it workes. arm chair fan
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2:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

I'm a bit worried about Yoshida at right back. He played a couple of times as a full back, but struggled.
I'm a bit worried about Yoshida at right back. He played a couple of times as a full back, but struggled. Rising_Son
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2:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence!
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence! Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players. ghk230473
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2:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

well clyne must have a knock, not even on bench
well clyne must have a knock, not even on bench arm chair fan
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2:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo. Littleton-Saint
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2:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

I have a feeling we'll be rather direct in our play today. Maybe the conditions don't suit pretty football.
I have a feeling we'll be rather direct in our play today. Maybe the conditions don't suit pretty football. Rising_Son
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2:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence!
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence! Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.[/p][/quote]I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus. OSPREYSAINT
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2:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.

I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.

As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?

Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.

Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.

I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: From twitter: K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.[/p][/quote]Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together. I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today. As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured? Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....[/p][/quote]No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ. Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action. I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in! Tirau Dan
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2:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose? Rising_Son
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2:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
I have a feeling we'll be rather direct in our play today. Maybe the conditions don't suit pretty football.
Good comment which would explain why Rambo's on the bench - I guess I prefer pretty football, even in the mud. If Adkins gets something from the game, I'll gladly admit that he was right, but I fear that he's made too many changes.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I have a feeling we'll be rather direct in our play today. Maybe the conditions don't suit pretty football.[/p][/quote]Good comment which would explain why Rambo's on the bench - I guess I prefer pretty football, even in the mud. If Adkins gets something from the game, I'll gladly admit that he was right, but I fear that he's made too many changes. Littleton-Saint
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2:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Signing in from another train journey through Norway.
So... What's that team all about!?
I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years!
Guly in front of the Ram?!
Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team.
Although I still hope I am wrong...
Come on you Saints!!!!!
Signing in from another train journey through Norway. So... What's that team all about!? I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years! Guly in front of the Ram?! Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team. Although I still hope I am wrong... Come on you Saints!!!!! Norwegian Saint
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2:45pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.

I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.

As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?

Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.

Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.

I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
I hope Jos does well today.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: From twitter: K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.[/p][/quote]Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together. I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today. As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured? Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....[/p][/quote]No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ. Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action. I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in![/p][/quote]I hope Jos does well today. mack chinnon
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2:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

paper talk de ridder had a moan in the week getting dropped play me or sale me back on the bench today jwp should do the same
paper talk de ridder had a moan in the week getting dropped play me or sale me back on the bench today jwp should do the same up saints
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2:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Signing in from another train journey through Norway.
So... What's that team all about!?
I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years!
Guly in front of the Ram?!
Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team.
Although I still hope I am wrong...
Come on you Saints!!!!!
You,ve been a Saint to long.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Signing in from another train journey through Norway. So... What's that team all about!? I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years! Guly in front of the Ram?! Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team. Although I still hope I am wrong... Come on you Saints!!!!![/p][/quote]You,ve been a Saint to long. mack chinnon
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2:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.

I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.

As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?

Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.

Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.

I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
I hope Jos does well today.
I hope they all do well. I want us to win this one. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: From twitter: K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.[/p][/quote]Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together. I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today. As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured? Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....[/p][/quote]No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ. Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action. I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in![/p][/quote]I hope Jos does well today.[/p][/quote]I hope they all do well. I want us to win this one. COYR. Rising_Son
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2:56pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

up saints wrote:
paper talk de ridder had a moan in the week getting dropped play me or sale me back on the bench today jwp should do the same
jwp's time will come, the one i dont get is lee, is he injured again or just not fit ? if not why not have him on the bench. I think he would be more of an impact sub than most.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: paper talk de ridder had a moan in the week getting dropped play me or sale me back on the bench today jwp should do the same[/p][/quote]jwp's time will come, the one i dont get is lee, is he injured again or just not fit ? if not why not have him on the bench. I think he would be more of an impact sub than most. arm chair fan
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2:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

I hear our glory seeking fans singing up well... have a great feed on vip.. 'ere they come.. lets be having you..
Cmon you Yellows... I love the Saints Brasil Strip Mr Do Prado should do us proud in those colours.
I hear our glory seeking fans singing up well... have a great feed on vip.. 'ere they come.. lets be having you.. Cmon you Yellows... I love the Saints Brasil Strip Mr Do Prado should do us proud in those colours. Tirau Dan
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2:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?[/p][/quote]I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team. Littleton-Saint
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3:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

From the kick off Hoover does the usual Hoof in to touch, some things never change!
From the kick off Hoover does the usual Hoof in to touch, some things never change! OSPREYSAINT
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3:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team.
What you want and what you get isn't always within our control.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?[/p][/quote]I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team.[/p][/quote]What you want and what you get isn't always within our control. OSPREYSAINT
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3:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

As mentioned earlier... Why isn't Tad Lee getting a chance? Can't be worse than J-Rod!
Prediction... Heart says a 2-1 win... Head says a 2-1 loss.
Come on you Saaaaaints!!!
As mentioned earlier... Why isn't Tad Lee getting a chance? Can't be worse than J-Rod! Prediction... Heart says a 2-1 win... Head says a 2-1 loss. Come on you Saaaaaints!!! Norwegian Saint
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3:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wigan 1 up
Wigan 1 up OSPREYSAINT
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3:05pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wigan 2 up
Wigan 2 up OSPREYSAINT
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3:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reading 1 up
Reading 1 up OSPREYSAINT
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3:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints 1 up.
Saints 1 up. OSPREYSAINT
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3:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I misheard earlier Wigan only 1 up and it is Lambo
I misheard earlier Wigan only 1 up and it is Lambo OSPREYSAINT
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3:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

0-1 Saints fab cross from Guly to Rickie... thats what we've been needing.. lovely cross and shot basics..
0-1 Saints fab cross from Guly to Rickie... thats what we've been needing.. lovely cross and shot basics.. Tirau Dan
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3:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

I take it all back! J-Rod to Guly to SRL - GOAL - GREAT
I take it all back! J-Rod to Guly to SRL - GOAL - GREAT Littleton-Saint
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3:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The BBC Sport web site is on a go slow today. I am listening to Solent and watching Sky.
The BBC Sport web site is on a go slow today. I am listening to Solent and watching Sky. OSPREYSAINT
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3:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The BBC Sport web site is on a go slow today. I am listening to Solent and watching Sky.
Same here Osprey....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The BBC Sport web site is on a go slow today. I am listening to Solent and watching Sky.[/p][/quote]Same here Osprey.... Littleton-Saint
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3:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

KJ equalises, too good to be true
KJ equalises, too good to be true OSPREYSAINT
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3:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Jones is a traitor....
Jones is a traitor.... Littleton-Saint
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3:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Yeovil 1 up Bournemouth 1 up
Yeovil 1 up Bournemouth 1 up OSPREYSAINT
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3:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Yes!!!! Rickie!!!!
With help from Guly ;-)
Yes!!!! Rickie!!!! With help from Guly ;-) Norwegian Saint
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3:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

shocker conceding the narrow angle near post ..hang on to the hats.. this is going to be a stormy game... 1-1
shocker conceding the narrow angle near post ..hang on to the hats.. this is going to be a stormy game... 1-1 Tirau Dan
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3:19pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

I was going to post on here yesterday that we'd need to score twice to get a point as we'd obviously let Jones and Crouch score.

What is it with us an ex players, it happens every game FFS!

Rant over!
I was going to post on here yesterday that we'd need to score twice to get a point as we'd obviously let Jones and Crouch score. What is it with us an ex players, it happens every game FFS! Rant over! Little Hitler
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3:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

roverme says...

5 mins into the match and saints player goes down again!! having to keep un on sky. Shoddy and a disgrace
5 mins into the match and saints player goes down again!! having to keep un on sky. Shoddy and a disgrace roverme
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3:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

JRod
JRod OSPREYSAINT
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3:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Jayrod gets the rebound.. 2-1 Saints
Jayrod gets the rebound.. 2-1 Saints Tirau Dan
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3:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Great work guys, 2 goals at Stoke!
Great work guys, 2 goals at Stoke! Little Hitler
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3:31pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

gotta say they are all working hard,, Guly is animated and delivering some quality passing and a good work rate.
Punch is on fire but should pass once in a while
gotta say they are all working hard,, Guly is animated and delivering some quality passing and a good work rate. Punch is on fire but should pass once in a while Tirau Dan
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3:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

great basic play.. chip in the box nodded on and in it went.. Rickie! keep it up saints 3-1
great basic play.. chip in the box nodded on and in it went.. Rickie! keep it up saints 3-1 Tirau Dan
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3:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 1
3 1 OSPREYSAINT
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Yeovil 2 up
Yeovil 2 up OSPREYSAINT
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Saintsteve7 says...

What a shocking team selection! Sacked in the morning Nige! Lol
What a shocking team selection! Sacked in the morning Nige! Lol Saintsteve7
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Get in!

We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream.

I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;)
Get in! We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream. I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;) Strasbourg Saint
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3:43pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Yeovil 2 up
TROLLOLLOL!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Yeovil 2 up[/p][/quote]TROLLOLLOL! Little Hitler
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3:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wigan and Reading still both 1 up ht
Wigan and Reading still both 1 up ht OSPREYSAINT
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3:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Half time and a feeling Saints really have their hearts in this one. I'm enjoying it!!! haven't woken the neighbours up for ages... bet I do today
Half time and a feeling Saints really have their hearts in this one. I'm enjoying it!!! haven't woken the neighbours up for ages... bet I do today Tirau Dan
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3:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Nigel Adkins football genius!
Nigel Adkins football genius! ghk230473
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3:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12

arm chair fan says...

please see this out now. goal difference back in single figures, one point per game target. so an hour with no news please!
please see this out now. goal difference back in single figures, one point per game target. so an hour with no news please! arm chair fan
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3:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

It's just like watching Brazil.

Not sure what the local shoppers thought when I screamed 'YES' when the third went in, though!
It's just like watching Brazil. Not sure what the local shoppers thought when I screamed 'YES' when the third went in, though! Strasbourg Saint
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3:54pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence!
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus.
Well, it just shows what we know, doesn't it? Had any of us been the manager, we'd be gettting sacked in the morning. Seems Nigel DOES know what he's doing after all.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence! Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.[/p][/quote]I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus.[/p][/quote]Well, it just shows what we know, doesn't it? Had any of us been the manager, we'd be gettting sacked in the morning. Seems Nigel DOES know what he's doing after all. Strasbourg Saint
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3:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Well done Nigel. You got the players playing some direct football in the final third and it's paying off! Play some through balls for jay to run onto and with his pace we might see him justify the 7 mill.
Well done Nigel. You got the players playing some direct football in the final third and it's paying off! Play some through balls for jay to run onto and with his pace we might see him justify the 7 mill. Bring back Branfoot
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3:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

in shock should play derect route more often expect avalanche second half well done all and guly
in shock should play derect route more often expect avalanche second half well done all and guly up saints
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141? Little Hitler
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

up saints wrote:
in shock should play derect route more often expect avalanche second half well done all and guly
direct
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: in shock should play derect route more often expect avalanche second half well done all and guly[/p][/quote]direct up saints
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

skiptonsaint says...

Watching in spain. Well done nigel. Great use of squad. Guly looks great. Played em off the park. Best 45 of season and no ramirez

Keep it tight now
Watching in spain. Well done nigel. Great use of squad. Guly looks great. Played em off the park. Best 45 of season and no ramirez Keep it tight now skiptonsaint
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4:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Little Hitler wrote:
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit.
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?[/p][/quote]Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit. warrens 76
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4:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

3-1 up and I still worry.
3-1 up and I still worry. Rising_Son
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4:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Whaaaaaat the heck?!
Just got a 3G connection for a few mins...
Wow!!!
Whaaaaaat the heck?! Just got a 3G connection for a few mins... Wow!!! Norwegian Saint
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4:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Get in!

We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream.

I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;)
Yes, yes you did...watching in Montreux surrounded by snow and cheese..
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Get in! We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream. I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;)[/p][/quote]Yes, yes you did...watching in Montreux surrounded by snow and cheese.. warrens 76
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4:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

Warren, we were right!
Warren, we were right! Bring back Branfoot
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4:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fonte yellow
Fonte yellow OSPREYSAINT
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4:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

DisplacedFan says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit.
He's licking his.....!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?[/p][/quote]Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit.[/p][/quote]He's licking his.....! DisplacedFan
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4:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Little Hitler wrote:
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Before we start the gloating let us see the game out?
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?[/p][/quote]Before we start the gloating let us see the game out? OSPREYSAINT
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4:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Before we start the gloating let us see the game out?
Why? The result won't change the fact that he's a moron who's completely wrong!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?[/p][/quote]Before we start the gloating let us see the game out?[/p][/quote]Why? The result won't change the fact that he's a moron who's completely wrong! Little Hitler
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4:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

cor that had to hurt... clash of the potters - Head is Potai in Maori just for a bit of trivia
cor that had to hurt... clash of the potters - Head is Potai in Maori just for a bit of trivia Tirau Dan
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4:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wigan 3 up at Villa
Wigan 3 up at Villa OSPREYSAINT
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4:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fulham 1 Swansea 2
Fulham 1 Swansea 2 OSPREYSAINT
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4:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skate 1 2
Skate 1 2 OSPREYSAINT
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4:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Crazy scores today, Wigan 3-0 up on Villa. Reading also in front.

A win is looking essential!
Crazy scores today, Wigan 3-0 up on Villa. Reading also in front. A win is looking essential! Little Hitler
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4:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Whaaaaaat the heck?!
Just got a 3G connection for a few mins...
Wow!!!
It was a cracker of a 1st half.. Saints Alive!!!!!

2nd is a tighter contest so far.. bit scrappy as tensions kick in. Expect changes soon. After a clash of 2 stoke defenders noggins with spilt claret expect 5 or 6 mins added on.

I'm enjoying it..
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Whaaaaaat the heck?! Just got a 3G connection for a few mins... Wow!!![/p][/quote]It was a cracker of a 1st half.. Saints Alive!!!!! 2nd is a tighter contest so far.. bit scrappy as tensions kick in. Expect changes soon. After a clash of 2 stoke defenders noggins with spilt claret expect 5 or 6 mins added on. I'm enjoying it.. Tirau Dan
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4:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Guly puts it wide, could have been a hero!
Guly puts it wide, could have been a hero! OSPREYSAINT
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4:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 3 blow it. Upson
2 3 blow it. Upson OSPREYSAINT
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4:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clattenburg missed a Fonte handball, come on you Saints
Clattenburg missed a Fonte handball, come on you Saints OSPREYSAINT
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4:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

what a miss at one end and a mess at the other shudda been 4-1 now 3-2
what a miss at one end and a mess at the other shudda been 4-1 now 3-2 Tirau Dan
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4:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Nzonzi red card
Nzonzi red card OSPREYSAINT
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4:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Dirty Stoke down to 10.

Come on Guly, grab the 4th!
Dirty Stoke down to 10. Come on Guly, grab the 4th! Little Hitler
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4:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

good job.. nzonzi sent off for sticking the knee in Corky.
good job.. nzonzi sent off for sticking the knee in Corky. Tirau Dan
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4:34pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

this is getting warm... stoke down to ten and on come crouchy. Concentrate Saints... COYY
this is getting warm... stoke down to ten and on come crouchy. Concentrate Saints... COYY Tirau Dan
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4:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

JRod yellow for kickingthe ball away, steady the buffs. 12 minutes to suffer.
JRod yellow for kickingthe ball away, steady the buffs. 12 minutes to suffer. OSPREYSAINT
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4:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Arghhhhh....
Hold on Saints, can only get on the Internet every 10-15 mins.... Arghhhh!
Come on you Saaaaaaints!!!
Arghhhhh.... Hold on Saints, can only get on the Internet every 10-15 mins.... Arghhhh! Come on you Saaaaaaints!!! Norwegian Saint
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4:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Nervous now.

Still, it's 3-4 in the Norwich - Man City match.

Hopless goalkeeping. Just as well neither of the keepers plays for England.....


...... wait a minute! Well, at least they don't play for Saints.
Nervous now. Still, it's 3-4 in the Norwich - Man City match. Hopless goalkeeping. Just as well neither of the keepers plays for England..... ...... wait a minute! Well, at least they don't play for Saints. Strasbourg Saint
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4:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Norwic 3 Man City 4
Norwic 3 Man City 4 OSPREYSAINT
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4:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fox for Shaw
Fox for Shaw OSPREYSAINT
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4:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Fox for Shaw!
Fox for Shaw! Strasbourg Saint
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4:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Oh no... Not Crouch... Ya just know what happens next...
Oh no... Not Crouch... Ya just know what happens next... Norwegian Saint
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4:41pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Cherry 3 up
Cherry 3 up OSPREYSAINT
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4:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Richardson for Punch
Richardson for Punch OSPREYSAINT
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4:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Oh no... Not Crouch... Ya just know what happens next...
I'm hoping just for once it doesn't happen!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Oh no... Not Crouch... Ya just know what happens next...[/p][/quote]I'm hoping just for once it doesn't happen! Little Hitler
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4:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Offside given phew!
Offside given phew! OSPREYSAINT
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4:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Pogle says...

This thread is terrible, way behind BBC, so for us in Oz trying to stay loyal to local you are making it very hard!
This thread is terrible, way behind BBC, so for us in Oz trying to stay loyal to local you are making it very hard! Pogle
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4:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 3 **** it
3 3 **** it OSPREYSAINT
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4:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Cruel but careless
Cruel but careless OSPREYSAINT
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4:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

7 minutes for Stoke to win it I ruddy hope not
7 minutes for Stoke to win it I ruddy hope not OSPREYSAINT
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4:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Offside given phew!
arrrrrgh no.... what a cracking goal but heck 7mins
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Offside given phew![/p][/quote]arrrrrgh no.... what a cracking goal but heck 7mins Tirau Dan
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4:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Bu66er! Hell of a strike but I think Jos should have won the loose ball just before that.

7mins of ET!!!!
Bu66er! Hell of a strike but I think Jos should have won the loose ball just before that. 7mins of ET!!!! Strasbourg Saint
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4:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Only ourselves to blame, should have nailed it at 3-1.

I just couldn't see us holding on unfortunately :-(

Hopefully they'll be happy with a point. We would have snapped that up at 15:00!
Only ourselves to blame, should have nailed it at 3-1. I just couldn't see us holding on unfortunately :-( Hopefully they'll be happy with a point. We would have snapped that up at 15:00! Little Hitler
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4:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Villa 0 Wigan 3 ft
Villa 0 Wigan 3 ft OSPREYSAINT
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4:52pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reading 1 0
Reading 1 0 OSPREYSAINT
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4:53pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

FFS!
That hurts...
Started to get the hell of a beating quote ready!
FFS! That hurts... Started to get the hell of a beating quote ready! Norwegian Saint
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4:53pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Little Hitler says...

Back into the bottom 3 then.

FFS!
Back into the bottom 3 then. FFS! Little Hitler
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4:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 3 FT What a game
3 3 FT What a game OSPREYSAINT
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4:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tony Robertson says...

All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Tony Robertson
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4:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Cruel but fair. I'd have taken a draw at kick off. Just a pity all the good work of the first half wasn't rewarded.

Anyone else have that strange feeling I had when the sending off happened? I wondered then if it might just help Stoke focus. After they went down to 10 we really lost the plot.

Well, the airport beckons.

Night all.
Cruel but fair. I'd have taken a draw at kick off. Just a pity all the good work of the first half wasn't rewarded. Anyone else have that strange feeling I had when the sending off happened? I wondered then if it might just help Stoke focus. After they went down to 10 we really lost the plot. Well, the airport beckons. Night all. Strasbourg Saint
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4:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant!
Well played Saints.
cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant! Well played Saints. Tirau Dan
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4:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skate lost 1 2 but that's no consolation.
Skate lost 1 2 but that's no consolation. OSPREYSAINT
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5:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Looks like Pulis has every right to complain about Clattenburg.
Looks like Pulis has every right to complain about Clattenburg. OSPREYSAINT
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5:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Well play lads Prem watch out we are a coming!
Well play lads Prem watch out we are a coming! Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
3-3 was a draw last time i looked .
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.[/p][/quote]3-3 was a draw last time i looked . slugger
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5:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tony Robertson says...

2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.
2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough. Tony Robertson
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5:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

circa 66 saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant!
Well played Saints.
sums it up
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant! Well played Saints.[/p][/quote]sums it up circa 66 saint
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5:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I don't think that was the problem. We were barely holding on as it was.
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.[/p][/quote]I don't think that was the problem. We were barely holding on as it was. Rising_Son
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5:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Would have gladly taken a point before kick off , but to end up 3-3 after being 1-3 up at half time is a bit gutting ...... Stoke should play with 10 men all the time , they were excellent .
Would have gladly taken a point before kick off , but to end up 3-3 after being 1-3 up at half time is a bit gutting ...... Stoke should play with 10 men all the time , they were excellent . slugger
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5:05pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tony Robertson says...

Doesn't matter how you try to dress it up, we're back in the drop-zone.
Doesn't matter how you try to dress it up, we're back in the drop-zone. Tony Robertson
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5:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

How did Yeovil do?
How did Yeovil do? mack chinnon
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5:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sharp scored a last minute equaliser for Forest
Sharp scored a last minute equaliser for Forest OSPREYSAINT
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5:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Velleity says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.
You're right, two promotions in two seasons just show that he's got NO idea, whereas you listening to the game in your front room know better.
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: 2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.[/p][/quote]You're right, two promotions in two seasons just show that he's got NO idea, whereas you listening to the game in your front room know better. Velleity
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Hopefully, Adkins will learn not to go negative when the team's winning against ten men. His substitutions and tactics cost us two points, yet again. Taking Punch off was madness. The best form of defence is always attack.
Hopefully, Adkins will learn not to go negative when the team's winning against ten men. His substitutions and tactics cost us two points, yet again. Taking Punch off was madness. The best form of defence is always attack. Littleton-Saint
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

abbiscuits says...

listened on player and in the end draw sounded right result. I think the starting team loooked weak, but NA proved me wrong and we had chance to 4-1 up, which probably would have sealed it, however, a point at Stoke and a generally excellent performance shouldn't be sniffed at.
listened on player and in the end draw sounded right result. I think the starting team loooked weak, but NA proved me wrong and we had chance to 4-1 up, which probably would have sealed it, however, a point at Stoke and a generally excellent performance shouldn't be sniffed at. abbiscuits
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Just like to say well done to Yeovil ah the Cider Boys beat them smelly Skate Birds!
Just like to say well done to Yeovil ah the Cider Boys beat them smelly Skate Birds! Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

circa 66 saint says...

mack chinnon wrote:
How did Yeovil do?
pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap

easy day
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: How did Yeovil do?[/p][/quote]pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap easy day circa 66 saint
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks. Littleton-Saint
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Very happy with a point...
Very sad it wasn't a win!
Very happy with a point... Very sad it wasn't a win! Norwegian Saint
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
Doesn't matter how you try to dress it up, we're back in the drop-zone.
Yes, but it wasn't the last game of the season, so it doesn't mean that much yet.

I feel Stoke are a very underrated team. They hoof the ball up but play some pretty decent stuff when they get it there. I'm disappointed we let a 3-1 lead slip but I would've been happy with a point from this match before it started.
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: Doesn't matter how you try to dress it up, we're back in the drop-zone.[/p][/quote]Yes, but it wasn't the last game of the season, so it doesn't mean that much yet. I feel Stoke are a very underrated team. They hoof the ball up but play some pretty decent stuff when they get it there. I'm disappointed we let a 3-1 lead slip but I would've been happy with a point from this match before it started. Rising_Son
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

upwherewebelong says...

For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions upwherewebelong
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tirau Dan says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant!
Well played Saints.
sums it up
3 at Britannia is more than the rest of the league scored there all season. Stoke played out of their skins in the second.. we should smile.. and The Manglewurzels mangled the skates hahaha. Smile.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant! Well played Saints.[/p][/quote]sums it up[/p][/quote]3 at Britannia is more than the rest of the league scored there all season. Stoke played out of their skins in the second.. we should smile.. and The Manglewurzels mangled the skates hahaha. Smile. Tirau Dan
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Tony Robertson wrote:
2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.
It may feel like a defeat but it wasn't !
[quote][p][bold]Tony Robertson[/bold] wrote: 2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.[/p][/quote]It may feel like a defeat but it wasn't ! slugger
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
How did Yeovil do?
pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap

easy day
With the -10 that makes them rock bottom, but why are we even talking about them? We were a few minutes from Utopia.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: How did Yeovil do?[/p][/quote]pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap easy day[/p][/quote]With the -10 that makes them rock bottom, but why are we even talking about them? We were a few minutes from Utopia. OSPREYSAINT
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5:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
How did Yeovil do?
pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap

easy day
No. There's a team that plays in blue that seldom wins there.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: How did Yeovil do?[/p][/quote]pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap easy day[/p][/quote]No. There's a team that plays in blue that seldom wins there. Rising_Son
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5:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Velleity says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us. Velleity
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

abbiscuits says...

I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ? abbiscuits
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Velleity says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Do you really suspect that he doesn't know?
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Do you really suspect that he doesn't know? Velleity
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

Littleton-Saint is not a Saint ..... trust me on this .
Littleton-Saint is not a Saint ..... trust me on this . slugger
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5:19pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Clyne was injured. What were the other options?
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Clyne was injured. What were the other options? Rising_Son
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Thornhill Saint says...

Very disappointing. Blood and guts stuff from both sides today

That said: One for Adkins to analyse: Why Stoke were able to absolutely terrify us with 10 men when we were playing 5 at the back?

On the positives, we scored three against the meanest defense on the league at home! We did not completely capitulate. Fonte was not done for his handball. Back in the bottom three but proud to support Saints!
Very disappointing. Blood and guts stuff from both sides today That said: One for Adkins to analyse: Why Stoke were able to absolutely terrify us with 10 men when we were playing 5 at the back? On the positives, we scored three against the meanest defense on the league at home! We did not completely capitulate. Fonte was not done for his handball. Back in the bottom three but proud to support Saints! Thornhill Saint
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Hopefully, Adkins will learn not to go negative when the team's winning against ten men. His substitutions and tactics cost us two points, yet again. Taking Punch off was madness. The best form of defence is always attack.
Don't know for sure, but from the commentatory, it could have been JRod or Punch who had run out of steam to come off, probably it was the wrong choice, but nothing we can do about it now. Armchair management is easy, doing it in a cauldron like the Brittania is something else.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Hopefully, Adkins will learn not to go negative when the team's winning against ten men. His substitutions and tactics cost us two points, yet again. Taking Punch off was madness. The best form of defence is always attack.[/p][/quote]Don't know for sure, but from the commentatory, it could have been JRod or Punch who had run out of steam to come off, probably it was the wrong choice, but nothing we can do about it now. Armchair management is easy, doing it in a cauldron like the Brittania is something else. OSPREYSAINT
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable. Littleton-Saint
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5:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12

hedge end bob says...

3-1 up, 10 million class player sat on his bum, playing against ten men. What would you do ??
3-1 up, 10 million class player sat on his bum, playing against ten men. What would you do ?? hedge end bob
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SaintJD says...

Putting the emotion aside a great point for us and probably a blessing in disguise.

At least the chairman can be in no doubt that the strength of our squad and particularly the defence needs strengthening.

I feared we'd be adrift at this point, but we are very much in the battle.

Now let's make some sensible defensive additions early and bed them in during January. That gives us a very good fighting chance, which is what we'd have asked for realistically at the beginning of the season.
Putting the emotion aside a great point for us and probably a blessing in disguise. At least the chairman can be in no doubt that the strength of our squad and particularly the defence needs strengthening. I feared we'd be adrift at this point, but we are very much in the battle. Now let's make some sensible defensive additions early and bed them in during January. That gives us a very good fighting chance, which is what we'd have asked for realistically at the beginning of the season. SaintJD
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12

St.Yorkie says...

Must say a bit disappointed with that!
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
Must say a bit disappointed with that! Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored? Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!! Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins! St.Yorkie
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish... warrens 76
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5:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
And your source is?
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.[/p][/quote]And your source is? Rising_Son
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5:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
Have a couple of Stellas and relax a bit, look forward to the Window opening up and we can have a post-fest of absolute b/s to revel in. Football, don't you just love it. Saints fans, heroes all, especially those that went today, I feel a bit unworthy. Onward upward, Arsenal you will have to be at your best now, we are beginning to get it together, long way from safety, but 17th will do for me whatever else happens. COYRs
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.[/p][/quote]Have a couple of Stellas and relax a bit, look forward to the Window opening up and we can have a post-fest of absolute b/s to revel in. Football, don't you just love it. Saints fans, heroes all, especially those that went today, I feel a bit unworthy. Onward upward, Arsenal you will have to be at your best now, we are beginning to get it together, long way from safety, but 17th will do for me whatever else happens. COYRs OSPREYSAINT
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5:29pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SaintJD says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
Must say a bit disappointed with that!
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that.
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: Must say a bit disappointed with that! Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored? Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!! Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that. SaintJD
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5:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Jameski says...

I would have taken off lambert in the last fifteen minutes and put on mayuka or de ridder to get attacking pace. Bringing on defenders left us with 20 mins of trying to block shots coming at us instead of attacking more and putting a ten man team on the back foot. We should have gone more offensive and kept stoke in their half. How many times have we thrown away winning positions in games by using dodgy substitutes. Before the game I expected one point at most but that still does not make up for wasting a lead like this. Had we brought on attacking players we would have dominated for the last fifteen minutes and taken all the points. Shame but have to move on to arsenal and try to get the win.
I would have taken off lambert in the last fifteen minutes and put on mayuka or de ridder to get attacking pace. Bringing on defenders left us with 20 mins of trying to block shots coming at us instead of attacking more and putting a ten man team on the back foot. We should have gone more offensive and kept stoke in their half. How many times have we thrown away winning positions in games by using dodgy substitutes. Before the game I expected one point at most but that still does not make up for wasting a lead like this. Had we brought on attacking players we would have dominated for the last fifteen minutes and taken all the points. Shame but have to move on to arsenal and try to get the win. Jameski
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5:32pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tony Robertson says...

Warrens 76 : Understand your frustration, but we've got an easy game on Tuesday. I'm leaving Stranraer at 0300 on Tuesday. Will Plesteds Pie shop in Shirley be open, I wonder? Need to stock up for the guys in Kinfsland 33!
Warrens 76 : Understand your frustration, but we've got an easy game on Tuesday. I'm leaving Stranraer at 0300 on Tuesday. Will Plesteds Pie shop in Shirley be open, I wonder? Need to stock up for the guys in Kinfsland 33! Tony Robertson
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5:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

Happy with a point against a side that has the best defensive record in the league and unbeaten at home for nearly a year.
Gutted we didn't get all three points after being 3-1 up but happy we can now all be positive in the fact that we can score against anyone and especially away from home.
We will be on the end of similar results that will be in our favour in games to come and we'll also surprise a few sides in the second half of the season.
We're slowly getting therein my honest opinion and there isn't an easy game in the PL which other sides will find out when they play us in the new year.
There are 4 or 5 sides in this league that seem to be struggling and not scoring as much as us.
i reckon we'll do ok in the run in as long as we can pick up home wins to go with the away draws along the way.
It's easy to dwell on negatives but let's not ignore the positives and forget where we were a couple of seasons ago.
It could be worse we could be losing at home to Crawley and Yeovil in two home games on the trot......
COYR FOADP FOB
Happy with a point against a side that has the best defensive record in the league and unbeaten at home for nearly a year. Gutted we didn't get all three points after being 3-1 up but happy we can now all be positive in the fact that we can score against anyone and especially away from home. We will be on the end of similar results that will be in our favour in games to come and we'll also surprise a few sides in the second half of the season. We're slowly getting therein my honest opinion and there isn't an easy game in the PL which other sides will find out when they play us in the new year. There are 4 or 5 sides in this league that seem to be struggling and not scoring as much as us. i reckon we'll do ok in the run in as long as we can pick up home wins to go with the away draws along the way. It's easy to dwell on negatives but let's not ignore the positives and forget where we were a couple of seasons ago. It could be worse we could be losing at home to Crawley and Yeovil in two home games on the trot...... COYR FOADP FOB J7junctionseven
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5:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.[/p][/quote]Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem.. Littleton-Saint
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5:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
You seem not too like Guly. Look on the bright side though. Without his cross, we wouldn't have scored our first goal.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]You seem not too like Guly. Look on the bright side though. Without his cross, we wouldn't have scored our first goal. Rising_Son
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5:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief . slugger
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5:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
I'll 2nd that.
[quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]I'll 2nd that. ghk230473
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

hedge end bob says...

abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI.
[quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI. hedge end bob
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
And your source is?
Football Italia's website
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions[/p][/quote]Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.[/p][/quote]And your source is?[/p][/quote]Football Italia's website Littleton-Saint
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

ghk230473 wrote:
abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
I'll 2nd that.
He'll do nicely if true.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]I'll 2nd that.[/p][/quote]He'll do nicely if true. J7junctionseven
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5:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintJD wrote:
St.Yorkie wrote:
Must say a bit disappointed with that!
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that.
I predicted a 3 0 loss! I was that pessimistic, I couldn't see how we had a hope, and when the team selection was announced I felt even worse, seems I underestimated NAs acumen of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. My intestines were doing somersaults at half time, luckily, when normal service, was resumed they settled down.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: Must say a bit disappointed with that! Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored? Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!! Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that.[/p][/quote]I predicted a 3 0 loss! I was that pessimistic, I couldn't see how we had a hope, and when the team selection was announced I felt even worse, seems I underestimated NAs acumen of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. My intestines were doing somersaults at half time, luckily, when normal service, was resumed they settled down. OSPREYSAINT
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5:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability. warrens 76
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5:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo) slugger
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5:45pm Sat 29 Dec 12

kent141 says...

ooooooops 2 points thrown away
ooooooops 2 points thrown away kent141
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Gully is an enigma, worse Brazilian I've seen!
Personally I wouldn't have played him, plenty of players I would have picked before him, jwp for 1.
Do not agree with booing him or any players that wear the saints badge though.
Would have taken the draw but it does feel like a defeat, maybe inexperience of this league to see the game out or did adkins not make sufficient changes? We tried something similar against man u.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Gully is an enigma, worse Brazilian I've seen! Personally I wouldn't have played him, plenty of players I would have picked before him, jwp for 1. Do not agree with booing him or any players that wear the saints badge though. Would have taken the draw but it does feel like a defeat, maybe inexperience of this league to see the game out or did adkins not make sufficient changes? We tried something similar against man u. ghk230473
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI.
Were is this new snow...need to put the winter tyres on.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI.[/p][/quote]Were is this new snow...need to put the winter tyres on. warrens 76
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SaintJD says...

ghk230473 wrote:
abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
I'll 2nd that.
Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages.

Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]I'll 2nd that.[/p][/quote]Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages. Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given. SaintJD
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5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)[/p][/quote]Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ? slugger
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5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
The fact that he has had very little time on the pitch hasn't helped him, it takes a few games to get up to speed, two minutes at the end of game is useless.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]The fact that he has had very little time on the pitch hasn't helped him, it takes a few games to get up to speed, two minutes at the end of game is useless. OSPREYSAINT
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5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

bluewhiteandred says...

May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.

Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR

Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up. You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth. And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !. Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now Aston Villa vs Southampton Southampton vs Everton Manchester United v Southampton Wigan vs Southampton Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton Southampton vs QPR Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have alot to play for. bluewhiteandred
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5:52pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Norwegian Saint says...

kent141 wrote:
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
Haaahaaaaa.... Yeovil.... Heeehaaaaharrr... After Crawley... Haaaheeeehaaarr.... At home... Harrrrrhaaaaaharharh
ar.... In the relegation zone... Of league one... HAAAAHAARRRRHAAA!!!.
...
Ouch... My sides are hurting...
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: ooooooops 2 points thrown away[/p][/quote]Haaahaaaaa.... Yeovil.... Heeehaaaaharrr... After Crawley... Haaaheeeehaaarr.... At home... Harrrrrhaaaaaharharh ar.... In the relegation zone... Of league one... HAAAAHAARRRRHAAA!!!. ... Ouch... My sides are hurting... Norwegian Saint
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5:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4. Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need. We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon. Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle COYR FOADP FOB J7junctionseven
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

slugger wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..

..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...

Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'

... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....

Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....

...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)[/p][/quote]Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?[/p][/quote]Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them.. ..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations... Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer' ... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero.... Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you.... ...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent. warrens 76
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Thornhill Saint says...

slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.

If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!

Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall. If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!! Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while. Thornhill Saint
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12

up saints says...

i would of took 3-3 start of play but should and need to win from 3-1 up.
i would of took 3-3 start of play but should and need to win from 3-1 up. up saints
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6:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing.
I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4. Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need. We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon. Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle COYR FOADP FOB[/p][/quote]Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing. I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial. ghk230473
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6:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..

..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...

Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'

... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....

Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....

...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season .
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)[/p][/quote]Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?[/p][/quote]Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them.. ..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations... Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer' ... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero.... Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you.... ...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.[/p][/quote]No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season . slugger
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6:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Jameski says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
@Velleity Sharp is faster than lambert so your point doesn't make much sense tbh...
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.[/p][/quote]Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..[/p][/quote]@Velleity Sharp is faster than lambert so your point doesn't make much sense tbh... Jameski
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12

TEBOURBA says...

Given Stoke's recent record, I think, before the game, most Saints supporters would have settled for a point.
Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth.
NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window.
If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive.
Given Stoke's recent record, I think, before the game, most Saints supporters would have settled for a point. Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth. NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window. If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive. TEBOURBA
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tony Robertson says...

Slugger wrote : "No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season ."

I wholeheartedly agree. There are many things he does with consummate ease, so much so that he gives the impression that he is not trying. Roll on Tuesday.
Slugger wrote : "No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season ." I wholeheartedly agree. There are many things he does with consummate ease, so much so that he gives the impression that he is not trying. Roll on Tuesday. Tony Robertson
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12

slugger says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.

Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR

Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up. You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth. And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !. Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now Aston Villa vs Southampton Southampton vs Everton Manchester United v Southampton Wigan vs Southampton Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton Southampton vs QPR Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have alot to play for.[/p][/quote]All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never . slugger
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6:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Velleity says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"

Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.[/p][/quote]Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..[/p][/quote]Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship" Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me. Velleity
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6:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SaintMax says...

SaintJD wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
abbiscuits wrote:
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
I'll 2nd that.
Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages.

Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given.
I've heard he's on £80k per week so though he souns affordable his wages aren't really. Love to be proved wrong mind you.
We ground out another result today. I predicted 2-2 with them getting a player sent off, but this would have been a great result for any other team outside the top four.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?[/p][/quote]I'll 2nd that.[/p][/quote]Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages. Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given.[/p][/quote]I've heard he's on £80k per week so though he souns affordable his wages aren't really. Love to be proved wrong mind you. We ground out another result today. I predicted 2-2 with them getting a player sent off, but this would have been a great result for any other team outside the top four. SaintMax
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6:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Nicole23 says...

I dont blame any player for this result, 1st half was good. What I saw the second half was some sort of crazy ping pong with players like urghhh get that white round thing away from me I dont like it.
What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game.
Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals.
I dont blame any player for this result, 1st half was good. What I saw the second half was some sort of crazy ping pong with players like urghhh get that white round thing away from me I dont like it. What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game. Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals. Nicole23
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6:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..

..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...

Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'

... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....

Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....

...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season .
In fairness Slugger I have defended him against the boo boys at the ground and here...what I am saying today is I can see why more than other Saints players he annoys so many fans...

....I suppose he is just the one as a Brazilian to boot we expect a bit of composure from.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)[/p][/quote]Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?[/p][/quote]Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them.. ..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations... Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer' ... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero.... Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you.... ...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.[/p][/quote]No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season .[/p][/quote]In fairness Slugger I have defended him against the boo boys at the ground and here...what I am saying today is I can see why more than other Saints players he annoys so many fans... ....I suppose he is just the one as a Brazilian to boot we expect a bit of composure from. warrens 76
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6:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

JohnItaly says...

Whilst like most fans I would have taken a draw with Stoke at the start, what I find concerning is the number of points Saints have dropped from winning positions - am sure someone knows. I remain a fan of Nigel Adkins but I am concerned about his tactical ability to close out a game. The dividing line between success and failure is very narrow and if this had been the last game of the season all those lost points would have proved fatal - and they still might.
Whilst like most fans I would have taken a draw with Stoke at the start, what I find concerning is the number of points Saints have dropped from winning positions - am sure someone knows. I remain a fan of Nigel Adkins but I am concerned about his tactical ability to close out a game. The dividing line between success and failure is very narrow and if this had been the last game of the season all those lost points would have proved fatal - and they still might. JohnItaly
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6:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SaintMax says...

Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"

Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.[/p][/quote]Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..[/p][/quote]Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship" Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.[/p][/quote]I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell SaintMax
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6:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Given Stoke's recent record, I think, before the game, most Saints supporters would have settled for a point.
Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth.
NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window.
If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive.
Who the flying duck are 'we'.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Given Stoke's recent record, I think, before the game, most Saints supporters would have settled for a point. Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth. NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window. If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive.[/p][/quote]Who the flying duck are 'we'. warrens 76
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6:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12

J7junctionseven says...

ghk230473 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...

....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....

Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing.
I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial.
Agree that 3 decent players could make all the difference.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver... ....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over.... Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.[/p][/quote]You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4. Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need. We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon. Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle COYR FOADP FOB[/p][/quote]Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing. I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial.[/p][/quote]Agree that 3 decent players could make all the difference. J7junctionseven
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6:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

bluewhiteandred says...

slugger wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.

Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR

Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
Hi Slugger The results are in the hands of the players quite achievable hero making games and 12 points are up for grabs frrom the bottom teams and who knows those the close games was it 3-2 against the Manchester teams if you could get 2 draws or 1 win happy days and Chelsea game wont matter you will be stayig up !
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up. You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth. And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !. Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now Aston Villa vs Southampton Southampton vs Everton Manchester United v Southampton Wigan vs Southampton Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton Southampton vs QPR Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have alot to play for.[/p][/quote]All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .[/p][/quote]Hi Slugger The results are in the hands of the players quite achievable hero making games and 12 points are up for grabs frrom the bottom teams and who knows those the close games was it 3-2 against the Manchester teams if you could get 2 draws or 1 win happy days and Chelsea game wont matter you will be stayig up ! bluewhiteandred
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6:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

slugger wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.

Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR

Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
We'll give Chelski a d@mn good game cousin jollyf*ck, your spot on with never say never ;) Cheers bw&r, a decent pompey fan on here is very rare and you are right about the 6 pointers, there are at least 4 other clubs who can be dragged into this battle, after many seasons in the same predicament in the Prem we are more than ready for whats to come, bring it on!!! Good luck in the courts by the way.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up. You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth. And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !. Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now Aston Villa vs Southampton Southampton vs Everton Manchester United v Southampton Wigan vs Southampton Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton Southampton vs QPR Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have alot to play for.[/p][/quote]All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .[/p][/quote]We'll give Chelski a d@mn good game cousin jollyf*ck, your spot on with never say never ;) Cheers bw&r, a decent pompey fan on here is very rare and you are right about the 6 pointers, there are at least 4 other clubs who can be dragged into this battle, after many seasons in the same predicament in the Prem we are more than ready for whats to come, bring it on!!! Good luck in the courts by the way. Tye-Dye pt2
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6:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Whilst like most fans I would have taken a draw with Stoke at the start, what I find concerning is the number of points Saints have dropped from winning positions - am sure someone knows. I remain a fan of Nigel Adkins but I am concerned about his tactical ability to close out a game. The dividing line between success and failure is very narrow and if this had been the last game of the season all those lost points would have proved fatal - and they still might.
Yes John it is a fine line and a bit of quality is needed we make more chances than at least 12 others in this league however I guarantee our missed chances are the highest or very close.....hence my annoyance when 'class' players keep missing..

On a bright note we only conceded 3...have always said our defence will not save us....taking our chances when they fall would.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Whilst like most fans I would have taken a draw with Stoke at the start, what I find concerning is the number of points Saints have dropped from winning positions - am sure someone knows. I remain a fan of Nigel Adkins but I am concerned about his tactical ability to close out a game. The dividing line between success and failure is very narrow and if this had been the last game of the season all those lost points would have proved fatal - and they still might.[/p][/quote]Yes John it is a fine line and a bit of quality is needed we make more chances than at least 12 others in this league however I guarantee our missed chances are the highest or very close.....hence my annoyance when 'class' players keep missing.. On a bright note we only conceded 3...have always said our defence will not save us....taking our chances when they fall would. warrens 76
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6:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.

I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"

Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell
I like him for sentimental reason, I don't know if he would make the grade at Premier level as I have never seen him play there.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.[/p][/quote]I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership. I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.[/p][/quote]Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..[/p][/quote]Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship" Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.[/p][/quote]I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell[/p][/quote]I like him for sentimental reason, I don't know if he would make the grade at Premier level as I have never seen him play there. OSPREYSAINT
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6:34pm Sat 29 Dec 12

saintmicky says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.

If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!

Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall. If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!! Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.[/p][/quote]Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list. STID saintmicky
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6:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: ooooooops 2 points thrown away[/p][/quote]I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order. OSPREYSAINT
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6:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mack chinnon says...

We fcuked that up.
We fcuked that up. mack chinnon
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6:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12

saintmicky says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: ooooooops 2 points thrown away[/p][/quote]I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.[/p][/quote]Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!! saintmicky
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7:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintmicky wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees.
[quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: ooooooops 2 points thrown away[/p][/quote]I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.[/p][/quote]Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!![/p][/quote]Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees. OSPREYSAINT
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7:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.
Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle. OSPREYSAINT
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7:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12

saintmicky says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintmicky wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees.
Perhaps to demonstrate that we are getting the hang of this insightful behaviour, I should state that Yeovil 2 - Portsmouth 1 at Fratton Park could be considered as 3 points thrown away then!!
STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: ooooooops 2 points thrown away[/p][/quote]I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.[/p][/quote]Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!![/p][/quote]Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees.[/p][/quote]Perhaps to demonstrate that we are getting the hang of this insightful behaviour, I should state that Yeovil 2 - Portsmouth 1 at Fratton Park could be considered as 3 points thrown away then!! STID saintmicky
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7:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.
Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.[/p][/quote]Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle. Velleity
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7:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.
Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle.
Always a silver lining, we will just have to outscore them or settle for a 0 0 Draw.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.[/p][/quote]Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle.[/p][/quote]Always a silver lining, we will just have to outscore them or settle for a 0 0 Draw. OSPREYSAINT
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7:54pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ghk230473 says...

Nicole23 wrote:
I dont blame any player for this result, 1st half was good. What I saw the second half was some sort of crazy ping pong with players like urghhh get that white round thing away from me I dont like it.
What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game.
Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals.
Merson on sky sports said similar, only lambert had composure and if he had pace he would be playing for 1 of the top 4!
Do tend to agree about Adkins decision making or lack of it, keeper in transfer window has got to be priority. Using 3 and not knowing out of the 2 which is the better (or worse) is a problem. A good keeper breeds confidence in the defence.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: I dont blame any player for this result, 1st half was good. What I saw the second half was some sort of crazy ping pong with players like urghhh get that white round thing away from me I dont like it. What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game. Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals.[/p][/quote]Merson on sky sports said similar, only lambert had composure and if he had pace he would be playing for 1 of the top 4! Do tend to agree about Adkins decision making or lack of it, keeper in transfer window has got to be priority. Using 3 and not knowing out of the 2 which is the better (or worse) is a problem. A good keeper breeds confidence in the defence. ghk230473
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9:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Meribelsaint says...

saintmicky wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......

...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....

...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.

I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...

...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...

...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...

...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.

...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.

Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...

...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.

If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!

Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list.

STID
I saw the match on stream too and thought Guly played pretty well, maybe I was watching a different Guly to Warren!
Felt like a defeat at the final whistle but I would have taken a point if offered before kick off. On to the next one and at least the gooners don't seem to be playing too well at the mo'!!!!!
COYRs
[quote][p][bold]saintmicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN...... ...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag.... ...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault. I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses... ...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed... ...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails... ...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over. ...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again. Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive... ...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...[/p][/quote]Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .[/p][/quote]According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall. If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!! Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.[/p][/quote]Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list. STID[/p][/quote]I saw the match on stream too and thought Guly played pretty well, maybe I was watching a different Guly to Warren! Felt like a defeat at the final whistle but I would have taken a point if offered before kick off. On to the next one and at least the gooners don't seem to be playing too well at the mo'!!!!! COYRs Meribelsaint
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10:29pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Scarborosaint says...

Every player played there part today guly included , both jrod and guly should of scored mind and at 4-1 the game would of been dead but a point at a difficult place to win was good , rickie looked dead on his feet but NA left him on cos of the aerial threat of Stoke , that throw in is better than a corner , the saints support was awesome today outsung the home supporters for much of the game coyr
Every player played there part today guly included , both jrod and guly should of scored mind and at 4-1 the game would of been dead but a point at a difficult place to win was good , rickie looked dead on his feet but NA left him on cos of the aerial threat of Stoke , that throw in is better than a corner , the saints support was awesome today outsung the home supporters for much of the game coyr Scarborosaint
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10:15pm Wed 16 Jan 13

Dave Brown says...

I heard this morning on Solent that Portsmouth Council are closing a number of public toilets to save money.
Will they include Fratton Park?.
I heard this morning on Solent that Portsmouth Council are closing a number of public toilets to save money. Will they include Fratton Park?. Dave Brown
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