Southampton linked to Philip Coutinho as well as Davide Astori

Philipe Coutinho

Philipe Coutinho

First published in Saints News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

SAINTS could be set for a £20m double raid on Italian football to land Davide Astori and Philipe Coutinho.

Saints have been long linked to Astori, the Cagliari centre half who is also being courted by Liverpool, in a deal worth about £10m which the club are hoping to wrap up quickly.

Now sources in Italy are adamant that Saints are also pushing to seal a £10m deal for Inter Milan’s 20-yearold Brazilian Coutinho.

The attacking midfielder was once being hailed as one of Brazil’s hottest young talents, and has featured for the full national team.

However, following a €4m move from Vasco de Gama, Coutinho has struggled to hold down a place in the Inter first team.

The Italian giants are understood to be prepared to listen to January offers for players who are not regularly involved in the first team after discussions took place yesterday afternoon between the club’s owner and president Massimo Moratti and manager Andrea Stramaccioni.

Inter are under pressure to take action over their squad after a 3-0 defeat to Udinese at the weekend left them nine points off the pace in Serie A at the halfway point in the season. They are expected to move players on to create cash for others to come in and one surplus to requirements could be Coutinho.

Though Saints have plenty of creative talent already at the club the chance to land a young player with bags of ability is obviously proving tempting, especially with Adam Lallana missing with a knee injury.

Coutinho started his career at Vasco before the big money move to Inter in 2010.

He settled in fairly well making 13 Serie A appearances and playing six Champions League games in his first season at the club, which yielded one goal.

However, in 2011/12 he found it far harder to break into the side and in January 2012 was loaned to Spanish side Espanyol for the remainder of the season, scoring five goals in 16 appearances.

Coutinho returned to Inter in the summer but has found himself behind Antonio Cassano in the pecking order at the San Siro and has started just three Serie A games this season with a further seven appearances off the bench, bagging one goal.

He has been more active in the Europa League as Inter make changes to their regular first team, starting seven games this season and making two sub appearances, scoring twice.

Saints’ relegation rivals, and opponents this weekend, Aston Villa, are reportedly also interested in Coutinho and Liverpool have also stepped up their efforts to try and tempt Astori to Anfield.

The Reds are also interested in Coutinho, according to reports in the national press.

They are said to have offered £7m, but that is some way short of Cagliari’s valuation which leaves the door open for Saints to steal in with a higher offer and get a deal done quickly.

Saints’ need for a centre half has only intensified after Jose Fonte was stretchered off in the 5-1 defeat to Chelsea with the club currently assessing the extent of the injury.

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6:42am Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world? saintlysoul
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6:44am Tue 8 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint says...

Very rare if it is true, hope it is but not holding my breath. NC likes doing business behind closed doors. Remember Buttner saying he was coming to us... then he ended up at some back street joint up north!

I feel the worst news this season (apart from Lalanas injury) was the fact NA said we are not getting a keeper. Just feel this could be a disasterous decision.

COYS!
Very rare if it is true, hope it is but not holding my breath. NC likes doing business behind closed doors. Remember Buttner saying he was coming to us... then he ended up at some back street joint up north! I feel the worst news this season (apart from Lalanas injury) was the fact NA said we are not getting a keeper. Just feel this could be a disasterous decision. COYS! Norwegian Saint
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7:07am Tue 8 Jan 13

Just another reader says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
I'm sure the likes of arsenal and man utd will take that advice! Where do you think the likes of van persie, Ronaldo etc have come from? If these players are half as good as is claimed they will be a huge asset to the club and will grace our league. I would love to see our team full of English talent but it simply isn't there, so lets embrace whatever and whoever can keep us in the prem and push on next season.

COYR!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the likes of arsenal and man utd will take that advice! Where do you think the likes of van persie, Ronaldo etc have come from? If these players are half as good as is claimed they will be a huge asset to the club and will grace our league. I would love to see our team full of English talent but it simply isn't there, so lets embrace whatever and whoever can keep us in the prem and push on next season. COYR!!! Just another reader
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7:07am Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

One thing I'm not planning on doing is what I did in August, namely taking a view on whom we may or may not sign.

One of the great (and yet frustrating to many) things about Saints is that we never seem to comment about speculation, so all we see is a hotch-potch of guesswork.

We'll doubtless sign some players. I'm sure that NA may well have noticed that we need some depth in the squad.

*After* we have signed them, I'll take an interest in them. I'm not having another month like August again, when I wasted hours looking up players who were never to become part of our team.
One thing I'm not planning on doing is what I did in August, namely taking a view on whom we may or may not sign. One of the great (and yet frustrating to many) things about Saints is that we never seem to comment about speculation, so all we see is a hotch-potch of guesswork. We'll doubtless sign some players. I'm sure that NA may well have noticed that we need some depth in the squad. *After* we have signed them, I'll take an interest in them. I'm not having another month like August again, when I wasted hours looking up players who were never to become part of our team. Velleity
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7:11am Tue 8 Jan 13

SFCSaint says...

two great quality players will be a massive statement of intent if we get them one a full italy international wanted by Inter milan and Napoli and the other a young kid who is going to be one of the best players in the world in the future and already plays for inter due to his mass of talent I think its brilliant we are competing with clubs like this as we are going to have to accept now that the majority of our signings are going to be from Serie A Ii have a feeling these Italian clubs will be hearing a lot more from us
two great quality players will be a massive statement of intent if we get them one a full italy international wanted by Inter milan and Napoli and the other a young kid who is going to be one of the best players in the world in the future and already plays for inter due to his mass of talent I think its brilliant we are competing with clubs like this as we are going to have to accept now that the majority of our signings are going to be from Serie A Ii have a feeling these Italian clubs will be hearing a lot more from us SFCSaint
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7:18am Tue 8 Jan 13

Tirau Dan says...

What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!!
What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!! Tirau Dan
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7:56am Tue 8 Jan 13

InCortesewetrust says...

Just another reader wrote:
saintlysoul wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
I'm sure the likes of arsenal and man utd will take that advice! Where do you think the likes of van persie, Ronaldo etc have come from? If these players are half as good as is claimed they will be a huge asset to the club and will grace our league. I would love to see our team full of English talent but it simply isn't there, so lets embrace whatever and whoever can keep us in the prem and push on next season. COYR!!!
Drogba & van horse head never had prem experience either. BIG disappointments they turned out to be,
[quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the likes of arsenal and man utd will take that advice! Where do you think the likes of van persie, Ronaldo etc have come from? If these players are half as good as is claimed they will be a huge asset to the club and will grace our league. I would love to see our team full of English talent but it simply isn't there, so lets embrace whatever and whoever can keep us in the prem and push on next season. COYR!!![/p][/quote]Drogba & van horse head never had prem experience either. BIG disappointments they turned out to be, InCortesewetrust
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7:57am Tue 8 Jan 13

Little Hitler says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!!
Agree TBH, we're in safe hands so let the guys at the top do their business and support whatever decisions they make.

Believe me, they won't need us to tell them if they've failed as it will be plainly obvious to them.

Slightly better support for the team could make the difference during the run in. I'm quietly confident!
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!![/p][/quote]Agree TBH, we're in safe hands so let the guys at the top do their business and support whatever decisions they make. Believe me, they won't need us to tell them if they've failed as it will be plainly obvious to them. Slightly better support for the team could make the difference during the run in. I'm quietly confident! Little Hitler
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7:58am Tue 8 Jan 13

Clever Dick says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!!
Couldn't agree more. Those two have brought us from near oblivion to a £200 million pound set up in just 2 seasons. It's an unbeeeeeelievable achievement. I for one would even forgive them if the worst were to happen, They are both on very steep learning curves and we are still in the mix. Can't believe the impatience and short memories of some fans.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: What do the Italian club fans say in the Echo equivalent over there? Hey if we go for talent of this calibre it's okay by me... I'm grateful to have a club and will support Saints til I die. Only One Nigel Adkins and very much Only One Nicola Cortese.. who deserves his name sung loud and proud!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Those two have brought us from near oblivion to a £200 million pound set up in just 2 seasons. It's an unbeeeeeelievable achievement. I for one would even forgive them if the worst were to happen, They are both on very steep learning curves and we are still in the mix. Can't believe the impatience and short memories of some fans. Clever Dick
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8:01am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintinCanada says...

Couldn't sleep tonight (2 am here).

Wonderful topic for discussion here, hopefully some nice/intersting thoughts to come. Because of "time-zones" I find myself as one of the erlier posters for a change. So here is MY rant.

I don't care about the "other lot" down the M27 but I do feel sorry for their genuine supporters. I don't think that discussion of PFC belongs here.


Nobody "owns this site"....it is a fun thing to be part of. Does anyone want to read more about "bankrupt -cheating - history - shed - bigger crowds - orange faces....etc"

I think that by now it has all been said.

A little bit of creativity would be nice.....coupled with some good humour, perhaps some insight prompting, thought-provoking replies.

No folks - you will look below this post, and scroll, quote after quote-quote-quote-qu
ote, over maybe two or three self-important dimwits (with a two-word reply) who think that the rest of us are interested in that.... rather than the topic that we are all invited to discuss.

STID
Couldn't sleep tonight (2 am here). Wonderful topic for discussion here, hopefully some nice/intersting thoughts to come. Because of "time-zones" I find myself as one of the erlier posters for a change. So here is MY rant. I don't care about the "other lot" down the M27 but I do feel sorry for their genuine supporters. I don't think that discussion of PFC belongs here. Nobody "owns this site"....it is a fun thing to be part of. Does anyone want to read more about "bankrupt -cheating - history - shed - bigger crowds - orange faces....etc" I think that by now it has all been said. A little bit of creativity would be nice.....coupled with some good humour, perhaps some insight prompting, thought-provoking replies. No folks - you will look below this post, and scroll, quote after quote-quote-quote-qu ote, over maybe two or three self-important dimwits (with a two-word reply) who think that the rest of us are interested in that.... rather than the topic that we are all invited to discuss. STID SaintinCanada
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8:14am Tue 8 Jan 13

Rising_Son says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
I see our resident xenophobe is up early.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]I see our resident xenophobe is up early. Rising_Son
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8:21am Tue 8 Jan 13

Rising_Son says...

One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that. Rising_Son
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8:28am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings.... MGRA
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8:33am Tue 8 Jan 13

Rising_Son says...

MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m. Rising_Son
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8:35am Tue 8 Jan 13

costa gaz says...

Apparently two decent players, but I'll wait until they have signed before I get too excited.
Apparently two decent players, but I'll wait until they have signed before I get too excited. costa gaz
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8:37am Tue 8 Jan 13

mbetts says...

Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts. mbetts
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8:42am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SEVEN
SEVEN Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:47am Tue 8 Jan 13

Ross123 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
great point! ps, could also save some money for butland!! wishful thinking

ps, please pay kelv in goal saturday!

any other keeper then we will lose!

like a cup final the villa game! and wigan!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]great point! ps, could also save some money for butland!! wishful thinking ps, please pay kelv in goal saturday! any other keeper then we will lose! like a cup final the villa game! and wigan! Ross123
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8:51am Tue 8 Jan 13

worthing_saint says...

Follow this guy on twitter:

@tancredipalmeri

he was the guy that very early on reported we were bidding for Gaston (and look how that turned out).

This time around he has stated quite clearly that Saints have met the asking price for Astori and it's now just about personal terms.
Follow this guy on twitter: @tancredipalmeri he was the guy that very early on reported we were bidding for Gaston (and look how that turned out). This time around he has stated quite clearly that Saints have met the asking price for Astori and it's now just about personal terms. worthing_saint
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8:54am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
He's an attacking midfielder and isn't a replacement for Fonte. It does seem strange that if he cost €4m and can't get in the team that he could be considered worth more than that. They are the ones who have announced they are going to sell off their surplus players so it's an equal position between buyer and seller. It's not another Gaston situation.

If we bought a player who then couldn't make the team I think we'd worry about getting our money back let alone making a profit.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]He's an attacking midfielder and isn't a replacement for Fonte. It does seem strange that if he cost €4m and can't get in the team that he could be considered worth more than that. They are the ones who have announced they are going to sell off their surplus players so it's an equal position between buyer and seller. It's not another Gaston situation. If we bought a player who then couldn't make the team I think we'd worry about getting our money back let alone making a profit. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:54am Tue 8 Jan 13

Ross123 says...

coutinho looks mint!
another creative star.

we got lallana, ramirez and hopefully this guy will add to that!

maybe we can drop guly then! lol

play video

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coutinho looks mint! another creative star. we got lallana, ramirez and hopefully this guy will add to that! maybe we can drop guly then! lol play video http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/t ransfer-news/southam pton-look-at-coutinh o-and-davide-astori- 1523048 Ross123
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8:55am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
If you have some spare time I suggest that you make a list of all of the players in the Senior Squads of the other 19 teams, study them carefully and decide which of them are currently bench warmers wanting to be starters, narrow it down to the ones that with a bit of TLC would do a job for us in the Premier and post the results on here,
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]If you have some spare time I suggest that you make a list of all of the players in the Senior Squads of the other 19 teams, study them carefully and decide which of them are currently bench warmers wanting to be starters, narrow it down to the ones that with a bit of TLC would do a job for us in the Premier and post the results on here, OSPREYSAINT
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8:57am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo.... MGRA
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9:00am Tue 8 Jan 13

St.Yorkie says...

Seeds count down reminds me of the twelve days of Christmas...perhaps we should have started a song for the 12-days of January for the blue few down the road...

"On the twelfth day before our demise the Saints fans sent to me..."

I know we are already at the seventh day but perhaps the wit and humour asked for from Canada could be shown here today?

Anyway back to these blokes from Italy - only one question. Are they Southampton players that meet with the club ethics?

And before those idiots start talking about drunk drivers, wife batterers, cheating on their wives, etc. I mean the right mentality and up for the fight ahead? Too many so called great players have come here off the back of highly inflated fees only to disappoint!
Seeds count down reminds me of the twelve days of Christmas...perhaps we should have started a song for the 12-days of January for the blue few down the road... "On the twelfth day before our demise the Saints fans sent to me..." I know we are already at the seventh day but perhaps the wit and humour asked for from Canada could be shown here today? Anyway back to these blokes from Italy - only one question. Are they Southampton players that meet with the club ethics? And before those idiots start talking about drunk drivers, wife batterers, cheating on their wives, etc. I mean the right mentality and up for the fight ahead? Too many so called great players have come here off the back of highly inflated fees only to disappoint! St.Yorkie
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9:01am Tue 8 Jan 13

Alicesdad says...

I'll believe it when I see it. It does all sound good but when you reflect on some of the summer rumours and how they turned out I can't get excited about this stuff any more.

The most amusing and interesting post so far was Seedhouse with SEVEN .. that's something else that won't come to much.. just further delay and endless prevarication ... there is too much debt down there for that to be sorted out quickly. Creditors will hang on forever. It will be years you mark my words.

But anyway .... Best of luck to Nige and Nicola with their hunt for our next players. At least we can afford to buy some.
I'll believe it when I see it. It does all sound good but when you reflect on some of the summer rumours and how they turned out I can't get excited about this stuff any more. The most amusing and interesting post so far was Seedhouse with SEVEN .. that's something else that won't come to much.. just further delay and endless prevarication ... there is too much debt down there for that to be sorted out quickly. Creditors will hang on forever. It will be years you mark my words. But anyway .... Best of luck to Nige and Nicola with their hunt for our next players. At least we can afford to buy some. Alicesdad
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9:07am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
If you have some spare time I suggest that you make a list of all of the players in the Senior Squads of the other 19 teams, study them carefully and decide which of them are currently bench warmers wanting to be starters, narrow it down to the ones that with a bit of TLC would do a job for us in the Premier and post the results on here,
I think the real situation is somewhere in between. The trouble is availability. There are quite a few players from the Prem we could do with, and who would maybe want to play for Saints, but the problem is the asking prices... Saints can only gamble so much assuming the coffers-door is now shut from the estate of ML... Also for me Nigel does not have the experience ( yet ) to be able to get the best out of all players and knit together a team/squad that is producing the best football possible. Of course time will make him a better manager and hence the conundrum... we are currently walking a fine line and survival is all that matters this season so if we can get a couple of Italian players on reasonable money plus an automatic £6-7M sell on if we go down then I don't think we would have taken too much of a step backwards. All teams get injuries towards the run-in and it could well be saints depth of squad that sees us home.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]If you have some spare time I suggest that you make a list of all of the players in the Senior Squads of the other 19 teams, study them carefully and decide which of them are currently bench warmers wanting to be starters, narrow it down to the ones that with a bit of TLC would do a job for us in the Premier and post the results on here,[/p][/quote]I think the real situation is somewhere in between. The trouble is availability. There are quite a few players from the Prem we could do with, and who would maybe want to play for Saints, but the problem is the asking prices... Saints can only gamble so much assuming the coffers-door is now shut from the estate of ML... Also for me Nigel does not have the experience ( yet ) to be able to get the best out of all players and knit together a team/squad that is producing the best football possible. Of course time will make him a better manager and hence the conundrum... we are currently walking a fine line and survival is all that matters this season so if we can get a couple of Italian players on reasonable money plus an automatic £6-7M sell on if we go down then I don't think we would have taken too much of a step backwards. All teams get injuries towards the run-in and it could well be saints depth of squad that sees us home. MGRA
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9:12am Tue 8 Jan 13

swesaint says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?
Most seasoned premier league players are not ready for a dogfight, usually ready for another payday.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Pleased to read that a least Saints are considering to buy players but do we really need to go abroad? These two players clearly have no experience in the Premier League and I'm concerned that Saints are going to make another mistake in paying good money for untested foreign players. Why can't they get seasoned Premier League players with experience of this league who are prepared for the dog fight ahead in attempting to remain in the best league in the world?[/p][/quote]Most seasoned premier league players are not ready for a dogfight, usually ready for another payday. swesaint
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9:15am Tue 8 Jan 13

franiow says...

I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town.

Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon.
I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town. Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon. franiow
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9:16am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

GOALAZO!

If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves. St Retford
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9:16am Tue 8 Jan 13

franiow says...

I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town.

Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon.
I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town. Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon. franiow
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9:19am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

And now, the end is here
And so they face the final curtain
Chainrai, he'll say it clear
He'll state his case, of which he’s certain
He’s lived a life that's full
He’s travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way

Fans, they had a Few
But then again, too Few to mention
They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption
He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, they did it his way

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When they bit off more than they could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
He ate it up and spat it out
He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way

We loved, we laughed and cried
We had our fill, at their losing
And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing
To think they did all that
And may we say, not in a sly way,
"Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way"

For what is a skunt, what has he got?
If not a club, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels
The record shows they took the blows and did it his way!

Yes, it was his way
And now, the end is here And so they face the final curtain Chainrai, he'll say it clear He'll state his case, of which he’s certain He’s lived a life that's full He’s travelled each and every highway And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way Fans, they had a Few But then again, too Few to mention They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway And more, much more than this, they did it his way Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew When they bit off more than they could chew But through it all, when there was doubt He ate it up and spat it out He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way We loved, we laughed and cried We had our fill, at their losing And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing To think they did all that And may we say, not in a sly way, "Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way" For what is a skunt, what has he got? If not a club, then he has naught To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels The record shows they took the blows and did it his way! Yes, it was his way Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:22am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

franiow wrote:
I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town.

Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon.
for any bottom 6 club the price goes up...... for any club with injury problems increasing the urgency to buy the price goes up....... but if you do the maths, an extra 3M for a player(s) is worth it if our league status is secured...... if NC has any sense there will be huge survival bonuses offered as well as automatic relegation-off-you-g
o clauses...
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: I am wondering if the price goes up when Saints come into town. If it's Saints, it must be 10 million. Final price will depend on how much they want to sell and if we are the only team in town. Hate this waiting..let's hope we buy one soon.[/p][/quote]for any bottom 6 club the price goes up...... for any club with injury problems increasing the urgency to buy the price goes up....... but if you do the maths, an extra 3M for a player(s) is worth it if our league status is secured...... if NC has any sense there will be huge survival bonuses offered as well as automatic relegation-off-you-g o clauses... MGRA
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9:37am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Both these two signings have been all over the Italian web press the last few days.
I click on this link 100 times per day as opposed to just the odd 50 on thi site

http://www.newsnow.c
o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal
l/Premier+League/Sou
thampton
Both these two signings have been all over the Italian web press the last few days. I click on this link 100 times per day as opposed to just the odd 50 on thi site http://www.newsnow.c o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal l/Premier+League/Sou thampton SaintMax
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9:38am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!! SaintMax
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9:42am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure. OSPREYSAINT
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9:42am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road?

It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway).

MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news.
Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road? It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway). MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news. St Retford
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9:44am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
He looks like one of One Direction.

(Which, obviously, is amazing)
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!![/p][/quote]He looks like one of One Direction. (Which, obviously, is amazing) St Retford
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9:48am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
He looks like one of One Direction.

(Which, obviously, is amazing)
Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!![/p][/quote]He looks like one of One Direction. (Which, obviously, is amazing)[/p][/quote]Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter? SaintMax
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9:49am Tue 8 Jan 13

magnette says...

Come on Echo Headline writer...surely it's not a £20m Italian Mission but a £20m Italian Job?

...and the players will be joining "The Saints' Preservation Society"!
Come on Echo Headline writer...surely it's not a £20m Italian Mission but a £20m Italian Job? ...and the players will be joining "The Saints' Preservation Society"! magnette
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9:49am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Retford wrote:
Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road?

It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway).

MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news.
Thank you. It took alot of effort and three spliffs to reach that level of creativity :)

I do realise the situation but I'm in it for the longterm, I'm no quitter. I don't want a quick and final solution, we need more, much more than that...

Yes they look handy, let's hope we sign them. Another attacking midfielder to add to our collection. If only we'd sign a keeper, only having four concerns me.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road? It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway). MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news.[/p][/quote]Thank you. It took alot of effort and three spliffs to reach that level of creativity :) I do realise the situation but I'm in it for the longterm, I'm no quitter. I don't want a quick and final solution, we need more, much more than that... Yes they look handy, let's hope we sign them. Another attacking midfielder to add to our collection. If only we'd sign a keeper, only having four concerns me. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:54am Tue 8 Jan 13

Dickosfc says...

St Retford wrote:
GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us. Dickosfc
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9:56am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dickosfc wrote:
St Retford wrote:
GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.
We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m.

Two bloody million!!! That's good business.
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.[/p][/quote]We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:58am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
He looks like one of One Direction.

(Which, obviously, is amazing)
Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?
Harry, I believe his name is.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc.

(I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.)
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!![/p][/quote]He looks like one of One Direction. (Which, obviously, is amazing)[/p][/quote]Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?[/p][/quote]Harry, I believe his name is. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc. (I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.) St Retford
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10:02am Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away... kent141
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10:04am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
He looks like one of One Direction.

(Which, obviously, is amazing)
Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?
Harry, I believe his name is.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc.

(I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.)
You hit that high note effortlessly St Ret.. I too have the album on repeat in the car due to 3 kids under 8 ( and my guilty pleasure..)
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!![/p][/quote]He looks like one of One Direction. (Which, obviously, is amazing)[/p][/quote]Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?[/p][/quote]Harry, I believe his name is. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc. (I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.)[/p][/quote]You hit that high note effortlessly St Ret.. I too have the album on repeat in the car due to 3 kids under 8 ( and my guilty pleasure..) SaintMax
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10:05am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Think you will find that if its an English or Russian club the zeros get added.
Well done though Kent that was almost constructive input.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Think you will find that if its an English or Russian club the zeros get added. Well done though Kent that was almost constructive input. SaintMax
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10:16am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!!
He looks like one of One Direction.

(Which, obviously, is amazing)
Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?
Harry, I believe his name is.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc.

(I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.)
You hit that high note effortlessly St Ret.. I too have the album on repeat in the car due to 3 kids under 8 ( and my guilty pleasure..)
Enjoy it while it lasts. Pre-teenage children listen to music because they love it - after that it becomes a fashion accessory and it'll be all 'cool' stuff that they don't actually like but use as a fashion accessory so you can expect all Joy Division t-shirts and Sonic Youth on vinyl that they can't actually play because they don't have a record player.

:(
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Flippin eck he looks like a young Kevin Keegan too!![/p][/quote]He looks like one of One Direction. (Which, obviously, is amazing)[/p][/quote]Which one, the dark brooding one with shirt black curly hair who supports Inter?[/p][/quote]Harry, I believe his name is. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BEAUTIFUL - UH - UH - OH etc. (I bloody love having a five-year-old daughter - they have amazing taste in music.)[/p][/quote]You hit that high note effortlessly St Ret.. I too have the album on repeat in the car due to 3 kids under 8 ( and my guilty pleasure..)[/p][/quote]Enjoy it while it lasts. Pre-teenage children listen to music because they love it - after that it becomes a fashion accessory and it'll be all 'cool' stuff that they don't actually like but use as a fashion accessory so you can expect all Joy Division t-shirts and Sonic Youth on vinyl that they can't actually play because they don't have a record player. :( St Retford
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10:21am Tue 8 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And now, the end is here
And so they face the final curtain
Chainrai, he'll say it clear
He'll state his case, of which he’s certain
He’s lived a life that's full
He’s travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way

Fans, they had a Few
But then again, too Few to mention
They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption
He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, they did it his way

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When they bit off more than they could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
He ate it up and spat it out
He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way

We loved, we laughed and cried
We had our fill, at their losing
And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing
To think they did all that
And may we say, not in a sly way,
"Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way"

For what is a skunt, what has he got?
If not a club, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels
The record shows they took the blows and did it his way!

Yes, it was his way
Nice!

The Beatles were ahead of their time when they penned:

'And in the end, the cups you bought were equal to your days in court.'

.... but you really need George's gritty guitar and Ringo's drum solo before the words just to add to the necessary, long-drawn-out tension.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And now, the end is here And so they face the final curtain Chainrai, he'll say it clear He'll state his case, of which he’s certain He’s lived a life that's full He’s travelled each and every highway And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way Fans, they had a Few But then again, too Few to mention They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway And more, much more than this, they did it his way Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew When they bit off more than they could chew But through it all, when there was doubt He ate it up and spat it out He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way We loved, we laughed and cried We had our fill, at their losing And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing To think they did all that And may we say, not in a sly way, "Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way" For what is a skunt, what has he got? If not a club, then he has naught To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels The record shows they took the blows and did it his way! Yes, it was his way[/p][/quote]Nice! The Beatles were ahead of their time when they penned: 'And in the end, the cups you bought were equal to your days in court.' .... but you really need George's gritty guitar and Ringo's drum solo before the words just to add to the necessary, long-drawn-out tension. Strasbourg Saint
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10:29am Tue 8 Jan 13

Dickosfc says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dickosfc wrote:
St Retford wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.
We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.
Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.[/p][/quote]We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.[/p][/quote]Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season. Dickosfc
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10:32am Tue 8 Jan 13

hates the skates says...

we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space...............
.................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!!
we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space............... .................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!! hates the skates
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10:36am Tue 8 Jan 13

right back in the bar says...

Dickosfc wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dickosfc wrote:
St Retford wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.
We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.
Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season.
Astori is a must and I believe we will get him. As for the Brazilian - we don't need another number 10 we already have 2. We need a winger and striker to play along side RL.
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.[/p][/quote]We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.[/p][/quote]Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season.[/p][/quote]Astori is a must and I believe we will get him. As for the Brazilian - we don't need another number 10 we already have 2. We need a winger and striker to play along side RL. right back in the bar
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10:37am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

hates the skates wrote:
we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space...............

.................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!!
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what happened with Gaston, isn't it? We were so close to signing him but Nicola ruined everything...
[quote][p][bold]hates the skates[/bold] wrote: we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space............... .................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!![/p][/quote]Yeah, that's EXACTLY what happened with Gaston, isn't it? We were so close to signing him but Nicola ruined everything... St Retford
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10:39am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

hates the skates wrote:
we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space...............

.................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!!
Hope you do too.
Makes sense going into the Italian market as its Nicolas home turf, there are several clubs in financial dire straights, the EPL is a big draw to play in..
I also believe they would build in the same £6m sell on clause Gaston has if we go down.
I reckon it's just Ts and Cs now..
[quote][p][bold]hates the skates[/bold] wrote: we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space............... .................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hope you do too. Makes sense going into the Italian market as its Nicolas home turf, there are several clubs in financial dire straights, the EPL is a big draw to play in.. I also believe they would build in the same £6m sell on clause Gaston has if we go down. I reckon it's just Ts and Cs now.. SaintMax
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10:47am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Dickosfc wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dickosfc wrote:
St Retford wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.
Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.
We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.
Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season.
Astori is a must and I believe we will get him. As for the Brazilian - we don't need another number 10 we already have 2. We need a winger and striker to play along side RL.
Does make you think what there thought process is behind buying this sort of player?
I'd have preferred a midfield general AKA Kean in his day if anything.
Perhaps they have been tipped off that this bloke is the next best thing and too good to miss out on.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: GOALAZO! If any Saints fans see reason to moan about this then they're mentally ill. Seriously, have a word with yourselves.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate!! People banging on about Premier League experience makes me laugh. Michu didn't have any experience and he's been rubbish isn't he! Only the league's top scorer. As stated above, how many premier league standard bench warmers are out there and don't go on about Lescott and Dawson because they have both said they're staying put. These guys would be cracking in my opinion. Obviously the inflated price tags are a gamble but I'm not doubting Astori would do a job for us.[/p][/quote]We were in for Michu until Swansea signed him for £2m. Two bloody million!!! That's good business.[/p][/quote]Tell me about it. He's gotta be the buy of the season.[/p][/quote]Astori is a must and I believe we will get him. As for the Brazilian - we don't need another number 10 we already have 2. We need a winger and striker to play along side RL.[/p][/quote]Does make you think what there thought process is behind buying this sort of player? I'd have preferred a midfield general AKA Kean in his day if anything. Perhaps they have been tipped off that this bloke is the next best thing and too good to miss out on. SaintMax
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10:52am Tue 8 Jan 13

saintsdan says...

After reading many of these rants , you wouldnt think this is a place for saints fans. If NC does buy the players you want or not support your team! If your just going to moan about everything that happens then southampton fc does not need your support!
After reading many of these rants , you wouldnt think this is a place for saints fans. If NC does buy the players you want or not support your team! If your just going to moan about everything that happens then southampton fc does not need your support! saintsdan
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10:52am Tue 8 Jan 13

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road?

It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway).

MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news.
Thank you. It took alot of effort and three spliffs to reach that level of creativity :)

I do realise the situation but I'm in it for the longterm, I'm no quitter. I don't want a quick and final solution, we need more, much more than that...

Yes they look handy, let's hope we sign them. Another attacking midfielder to add to our collection. If only we'd sign a keeper, only having four concerns me.
A lawyer chum of mine says the concluding verdict can only follow the consummation of the of the culminating determination - and that can't happen before the final decree has closure as a result of the expiry of the ruling order and subsequent verdict on the expiring denouement that will trigger the termination finding.

I'm writing a song about this called "I love you darlin' more than a final adjudication", but I'm struggling a bit with it for some reason.

I think many on here are underestimating the attractions of Southampton to these young Serie A players. Nearly all the women in Italy have got moustaches. I couldn't settle there at all. It was like living in a foreign country.

However, there's a chef at the Cavalieri Hilton who is an absolutely amazing juggler with pizzas. He can spin them round on the tip of one finger and then toss them eight feet through the air straight onto a plate.

He would be great in goal.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Seedy, that's beautiful but you do know next week's court hearing is only to set a date for another court case further down the road? It does, however, mean they'll most likely enjoy a whole year in administration which will cause all manner of headaches for them, but it still won't be the end. I think what'll happen is the administrators will cut costs and get rid of players until they're bumping along at the foot of League 1 even without the 10 points deduction and the whole sorry shitstorm will just wither and die through its own irrelevance as even its fans decide it's not worth saving (which, in effect, they've kind of already done anyway). MEANWHILE, we're lining up two amazing players from Serie A so, you know, it's not all bad news.[/p][/quote]Thank you. It took alot of effort and three spliffs to reach that level of creativity :) I do realise the situation but I'm in it for the longterm, I'm no quitter. I don't want a quick and final solution, we need more, much more than that... Yes they look handy, let's hope we sign them. Another attacking midfielder to add to our collection. If only we'd sign a keeper, only having four concerns me.[/p][/quote]A lawyer chum of mine says the concluding verdict can only follow the consummation of the of the culminating determination - and that can't happen before the final decree has closure as a result of the expiry of the ruling order and subsequent verdict on the expiring denouement that will trigger the termination finding. I'm writing a song about this called "I love you darlin' more than a final adjudication", but I'm struggling a bit with it for some reason. I think many on here are underestimating the attractions of Southampton to these young Serie A players. Nearly all the women in Italy have got moustaches. I couldn't settle there at all. It was like living in a foreign country. However, there's a chef at the Cavalieri Hilton who is an absolutely amazing juggler with pizzas. He can spin them round on the tip of one finger and then toss them eight feet through the air straight onto a plate. He would be great in goal. Confucious
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10:52am Tue 8 Jan 13

Saintian1885 says...

Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.
Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap. Saintian1885
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10:57am Tue 8 Jan 13

Charlie_SaintsFC says...

I can't believe some fans on here think we have paid too much for Gaston and think that it has been a waste of money. He is 22 years old, he has played for Uruguay and is a very very talented footballer. He has had his 'dead-leg' problems but if he is committed to our club and is fit, think of how good he could become. From what I have seen from him, he has been good, maybe not up to the price tag; yet, but he has been good. When we have bought better players in, he will get better because obviously when you are playing with a better standard of players, you will find it easier and play better. If NA and NC can bring in these players it will add depth, which we do not have at the moment. I trust every decision that NA and NC will make, they know what they are doing and we all have to trust them. Have faith, and can people stop being so negative about everything. COYR!
I can't believe some fans on here think we have paid too much for Gaston and think that it has been a waste of money. He is 22 years old, he has played for Uruguay and is a very very talented footballer. He has had his 'dead-leg' problems but if he is committed to our club and is fit, think of how good he could become. From what I have seen from him, he has been good, maybe not up to the price tag; yet, but he has been good. When we have bought better players in, he will get better because obviously when you are playing with a better standard of players, you will find it easier and play better. If NA and NC can bring in these players it will add depth, which we do not have at the moment. I trust every decision that NA and NC will make, they know what they are doing and we all have to trust them. Have faith, and can people stop being so negative about everything. COYR! Charlie_SaintsFC
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10:59am Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saintian1885 wrote:
Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.
Michu £2m.
[quote][p][bold]Saintian1885[/bold] wrote: Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.[/p][/quote]Michu £2m. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:00am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Saintian1885 wrote:
Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.
Whilst I agree that we got burnt last summer (not due to the sun!) I think NA/NC have learnt their lesson, and should do all we can to secure this bloke.
But.... £12m for a centreback is a lot of money. Chelsea payed Bolton £7m for Gary Cahill last January which puts Astoris valuation into perspective. I reckon we have tabled £9.5m and both clubs will settle on £10,750,327 pence.
..ish
[quote][p][bold]Saintian1885[/bold] wrote: Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree that we got burnt last summer (not due to the sun!) I think NA/NC have learnt their lesson, and should do all we can to secure this bloke. But.... £12m for a centreback is a lot of money. Chelsea payed Bolton £7m for Gary Cahill last January which puts Astoris valuation into perspective. I reckon we have tabled £9.5m and both clubs will settle on £10,750,327 pence. ..ish SaintMax
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11:02am Tue 8 Jan 13

billythesaint says...

Exciting to be linked with these players when only a couple of years ago we were in serious danger of going out of existence (like our fishy neighbours).
Gaston is a real class player on his day but we need more stars around him and seriously need better central defenders. Yes, ticket prices will go up eventually but I want to watch good football with some superstars on that SMS pitch! Looking forward to seeing who we get and pushing up the league. We don't want players who are 'up for a dogfight,' we need players with class and ability to get us in mid table this season and Europe the next.
Exciting to be linked with these players when only a couple of years ago we were in serious danger of going out of existence (like our fishy neighbours). Gaston is a real class player on his day but we need more stars around him and seriously need better central defenders. Yes, ticket prices will go up eventually but I want to watch good football with some superstars on that SMS pitch! Looking forward to seeing who we get and pushing up the league. We don't want players who are 'up for a dogfight,' we need players with class and ability to get us in mid table this season and Europe the next. billythesaint
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11:05am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saintian1885 wrote:
Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.
Michu £2m.
I better which ever scout suggested Michu is currently smoking a fat one..
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintian1885[/bold] wrote: Go to saints sky sports page and u will see that we still have not agreed a deal for astori. We are 4 million off the asking price. This will be another gaston type deal where it will drag on and on. I would love saints to sign him but i am not getting excited. Our transfer activity in the summer was dreadfull (gaston excluded) and i would imagine this month will be no different. If this astori is as good as people say we should pay the 12m. Class players cost double figures and we will not get them on the cheap.[/p][/quote]Michu £2m.[/p][/quote]I better which ever scout suggested Michu is currently smoking a fat one.. SaintMax
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11:12am Tue 8 Jan 13

up saints says...

interesting chat above i would just settle for a decent keeper not sure who
interesting chat above i would just settle for a decent keeper not sure who up saints
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11:14am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club. St Retford
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11:15am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

The Brazilian guy sounds exciting, but surely more of a summer signing.

Let's get the defence and keeper sorted and then, if we still have the cash, get him in too, but the other areas must be sorted first.

While I love all the 'Saints are signing exciting players, be positive' talk, this is looking like a repeat of the summer.

How about we secure our Premier League survival and then spend the TV money on flair players in the summer when our defence is fixed and settled?

Building from the back is the sure fire way to good attacking football.

Spending big money on Brazilian flair would be madness IMO.

We will get our money back on these young players, but only if we are in a situation to sell them on our terms.

Sorry to be a realist, but if we get relegated do you think Gaston and this Brazilian guy will 1) want to stay or 2) be suited to that division?

If the defence and keeper are sorted first great.

Fact: we have a good enough range of attacking midfielders and strikers to ensure safety, as shown by our impressive goals for record.

Fact: we do not, by any means, have a good enough defence to ensure safety, even when taking into account our great improvements in recent weeks, as shown by our goals conceded stats.

Fact: we are playing great football, have some great players, a great style and forward thinking ethos, a manager who has worked miracles with a patched up back five and a supportive chairman. Would be a massive shame if we go down having failed to address our blatantly obvious record for silly defensive errors, costing us results time and again.
The Brazilian guy sounds exciting, but surely more of a summer signing. Let's get the defence and keeper sorted and then, if we still have the cash, get him in too, but the other areas must be sorted first. While I love all the 'Saints are signing exciting players, be positive' talk, this is looking like a repeat of the summer. How about we secure our Premier League survival and then spend the TV money on flair players in the summer when our defence is fixed and settled? Building from the back is the sure fire way to good attacking football. Spending big money on Brazilian flair would be madness IMO. We will get our money back on these young players, but only if we are in a situation to sell them on our terms. Sorry to be a realist, but if we get relegated do you think Gaston and this Brazilian guy will 1) want to stay or 2) be suited to that division? If the defence and keeper are sorted first great. Fact: we have a good enough range of attacking midfielders and strikers to ensure safety, as shown by our impressive goals for record. Fact: we do not, by any means, have a good enough defence to ensure safety, even when taking into account our great improvements in recent weeks, as shown by our goals conceded stats. Fact: we are playing great football, have some great players, a great style and forward thinking ethos, a manager who has worked miracles with a patched up back five and a supportive chairman. Would be a massive shame if we go down having failed to address our blatantly obvious record for silly defensive errors, costing us results time and again. SaintJD
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11:18am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block.... MGRA
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11:19am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them? OSPREYSAINT
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11:20am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was.... MGRA
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11:22am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Completely agree on Gaston. For people to say at this early stage it was a waste of money is daft.
Having him will make it easier to attract others (Astori, Coutinho etc).

Hey perhaps NA and NC have been looking at the Chelsea's Arsenals and Man City's and think we need a midfield player in the mould of Mata, Wiltshire, Silva... Also Barca are full of small skill full technical players.

Therefore Coutinho isn't such a bad idea..
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Completely agree on Gaston. For people to say at this early stage it was a waste of money is daft. Having him will make it easier to attract others (Astori, Coutinho etc). Hey perhaps NA and NC have been looking at the Chelsea's Arsenals and Man City's and think we need a midfield player in the mould of Mata, Wiltshire, Silva... Also Barca are full of small skill full technical players. Therefore Coutinho isn't such a bad idea.. SaintMax
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11:22am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is! OSPREYSAINT
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11:23am Tue 8 Jan 13

up saints says...

i thought michu was closer to 5mil must be getting mixed up with someone else we could offer 4 mil
i thought michu was closer to 5mil must be getting mixed up with someone else we could offer 4 mil up saints
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11:31am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious.. SaintMax
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11:33am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
Well then maybe that's exactly why we set up our mysterious offshore finance "facility"?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]Well then maybe that's exactly why we set up our mysterious offshore finance "facility"? St Retford
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11:36am Tue 8 Jan 13

El Santo says...

Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
Yes! That was going to be exactly my point! How is this player now more valuable!!???
And, if we are wiling to spend £10m...why not hire a guy like the Betis midfielder, Benyat? That is a guy we would need, and he is playing day in day out, making his team better. Besides, it is known that Spanish players adapt really good to the UK... much better than South-american ones.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]Yes! That was going to be exactly my point! How is this player now more valuable!!??? And, if we are wiling to spend £10m...why not hire a guy like the Betis midfielder, Benyat? That is a guy we would need, and he is playing day in day out, making his team better. Besides, it is known that Spanish players adapt really good to the UK... much better than South-american ones. El Santo
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11:39am Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up.. kent141
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11:40am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
Nicola knows who Cagliari owe money too so that will come in handy...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]Nicola knows who Cagliari owe money too so that will come in handy... MGRA
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11:42am Tue 8 Jan 13

skiptonsaint says...

Think this shows it must be bad news on adam if true.

Also shows we hve clearly stepped up a league with our ability to spend

Even if we did go down i think it shows we would have the finances to not have to sell everyone although cant see gaston and any other 10m players staying

I think what we need is to get some bargins in out transfer policy as well

Think we have paid top money for all put recent signings but i guess clubs know we have a few quid

Still amazing to be readin this even if it doesnt happen when you think of where we were two years ago
Think this shows it must be bad news on adam if true. Also shows we hve clearly stepped up a league with our ability to spend Even if we did go down i think it shows we would have the finances to not have to sell everyone although cant see gaston and any other 10m players staying I think what we need is to get some bargins in out transfer policy as well Think we have paid top money for all put recent signings but i guess clubs know we have a few quid Still amazing to be readin this even if it doesnt happen when you think of where we were two years ago skiptonsaint
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11:44am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie. St Retford
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11:46am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him.

Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good.

That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well.

For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future.

It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car.

I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances.

J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.
Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him. Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good. That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well. For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future. It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car. I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances. J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship. SaintJD
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11:49am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.
As a Saints supporter he is as nervous as the rest of us, his reactions are well documented, hard nosed businesman he might be, but a wimp when it comes to watching the team perform.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.[/p][/quote]As a Saints supporter he is as nervous as the rest of us, his reactions are well documented, hard nosed businesman he might be, but a wimp when it comes to watching the team perform. OSPREYSAINT
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11:49am Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.
I bet he is a focker across the negotiating table!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.[/p][/quote]I bet he is a focker across the negotiating table! SaintMax
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11:50am Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..[/p][/quote]Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one. OSPREYSAINT
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11:57am Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.
I bet he is a focker across the negotiating table!
Aye - I'm glad he's on our side!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]Innit. I reckon Nicola is a born businessman who got into football precisely because he wanted to get to do things like this. I reckon he gets his kicks from negotiating deals, and the higher the stakes the more fun these things are for him. This stuff is a game for him in exactly the same way banging goals in is a game for Rickie.[/p][/quote]I bet he is a focker across the negotiating table![/p][/quote]Aye - I'm glad he's on our side! St Retford
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11:58am Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one.
Not my scene at all so i had a couple of quick Shorts there and then went to the pub.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..[/p][/quote]Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one.[/p][/quote]Not my scene at all so i had a couple of quick Shorts there and then went to the pub. kent141
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11:59am Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits. MGRA
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12:05pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0) SaintMax
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12:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Retford wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
Well then maybe that's exactly why we set up our mysterious offshore finance "facility"?
Precisely. Instead of paying the club on the drip we pay the loan back on the drip.

If the clubs are desperate for the cash and need it all up front surely that will be reflected in the price?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]Well then maybe that's exactly why we set up our mysterious offshore finance "facility"?[/p][/quote]Precisely. Instead of paying the club on the drip we pay the loan back on the drip. If the clubs are desperate for the cash and need it all up front surely that will be reflected in the price? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:11pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

When is Channers next in the UK? I need a photo of me with him to complete the full set with the one of me handing Birch £1 and the fake sheik one from The Sun.
When is Channers next in the UK? I need a photo of me with him to complete the full set with the one of me handing Birch £1 and the fake sheik one from The Sun. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:13pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot.

And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week.

Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on.

If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really.

Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....[/p][/quote]MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression... Velleity
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12:20pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Velleity wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot.

And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week.

Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on.

If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really.

Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...
If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....[/p][/quote]MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...[/p][/quote]If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus. SaintMax
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12:23pm Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

I once nicked a jigsaw blade from B&Q because the queue was, like, really long and I couldn't be doing with it. I'm sorry.
I once nicked a jigsaw blade from B&Q because the queue was, like, really long and I couldn't be doing with it. I'm sorry. St Retford
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12:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis. SaintJD
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12:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot.

And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week.

Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on.

If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really.

Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...
If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus.
Youre not that saints fan who dressed up as Spartacus for the away game at Brighton and dident come back for three days are you ?
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....[/p][/quote]MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...[/p][/quote]If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus.[/p][/quote]Youre not that saints fan who dressed up as Spartacus for the away game at Brighton and dident come back for three days are you ? kent141
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12:29pm Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

kent141 wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot.

And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week.

Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on.

If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really.

Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...
If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus.
Youre not that saints fan who dressed up as Spartacus for the away game at Brighton and dident come back for three days are you ?
BECOSE EVERY1 IN BRIGHTON IS GAYE!!!! DO YOU SEEE!!!!EVELEN
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....[/p][/quote]MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...[/p][/quote]If we are doing confessions I'm Spartacus.[/p][/quote]Youre not that saints fan who dressed up as Spartacus for the away game at Brighton and dident come back for three days are you ?[/p][/quote]BECOSE EVERY1 IN BRIGHTON IS GAYE!!!! DO YOU SEEE!!!!EVELEN St Retford
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12:37pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

Retfords blown a fuse about something.
Retfords blown a fuse about something. kent141
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12:39pm Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Something something blew a fuse in your mum last night something something.

Now be away with you you witless skunt.
Something something blew a fuse in your mum last night something something. Now be away with you you witless skunt. St Retford
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12:44pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

Poor old Retford, he wasent that bright anyway.....
Poor old Retford, he wasent that bright anyway..... kent141
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12:46pm Tue 8 Jan 13

boilerman says...

Rising_Son wrote:
One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
Good point, I was thinking the same.
Have we not learned our lesson after paying too much for Gaston and Rodriguez?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]Good point, I was thinking the same. Have we not learned our lesson after paying too much for Gaston and Rodriguez? boilerman
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12:52pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Too much for Gaston really makes me laugh. The bloke is class he is a match winner and will be vital for us in the 2nd half of the season when we play the better teams at home. With his age as well I would believe we paid the going rate for what is a class attacking midfielder especially when you look at clubs like Liverpools spending. Sturridge or Gaston I know who I would rather have and he currently plays his football at SMS
Too much for Gaston really makes me laugh. The bloke is class he is a match winner and will be vital for us in the 2nd half of the season when we play the better teams at home. With his age as well I would believe we paid the going rate for what is a class attacking midfielder especially when you look at clubs like Liverpools spending. Sturridge or Gaston I know who I would rather have and he currently plays his football at SMS SO50 Saint
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12:59pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one.
Not my scene at all so i had a couple of quick Shorts there and then went to the pub.
Under age drinking is a criminal offence.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..[/p][/quote]Are telling me that you only watched voyeur style? Pull the other one.[/p][/quote]Not my scene at all so i had a couple of quick Shorts there and then went to the pub.[/p][/quote]Under age drinking is a criminal offence. OSPREYSAINT
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1:03pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMark says...

kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
Trying to work out what sort of twisted, sister fiddling, granny muggng, fish abusing weirdo you are!?
Was that really the best you can do? Tanning salon!? Go away little boy before you get cought using the schools computer. You'll get detention and be home late. Daddy wont like that will he. ;)
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..[/p][/quote]Trying to work out what sort of twisted, sister fiddling, granny muggng, fish abusing weirdo you are!? Was that really the best you can do? Tanning salon!? Go away little boy before you get cought using the schools computer. You'll get detention and be home late. Daddy wont like that will he. ;) SaintMark
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1:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

kent141 wrote:
Poor old Retford, he wasent that bright anyway.....
Did you know that there is no e in wasn't?
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Poor old Retford, he wasent that bright anyway.....[/p][/quote]Did you know that there is no e in wasn't? OSPREYSAINT
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1:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments".... MGRA
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1:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Did you know there is no e in didn't.
Did you know there is no e in didn't. OSPREYSAINT
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1:16pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away. OSPREYSAINT
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1:22pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth. MGRA
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1:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

SaintJD wrote:
Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him.

Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good.

That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well.

For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future.

It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car.

I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances.

J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.
Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him. Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good. That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well. For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future. It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car. I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances. J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.[/p][/quote]Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there. mack chinnon
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1:31pm Tue 8 Jan 13

randre says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And now, the end is here
And so they face the final curtain
Chainrai, he'll say it clear
He'll state his case, of which he’s certain
He’s lived a life that's full
He’s travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way

Fans, they had a Few
But then again, too Few to mention
They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption
He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, they did it his way

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When they bit off more than they could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
He ate it up and spat it out
He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way

We loved, we laughed and cried
We had our fill, at their losing
And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing
To think they did all that
And may we say, not in a sly way,
"Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way"

For what is a skunt, what has he got?
If not a club, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels
The record shows they took the blows and did it his way!

Yes, it was his way
Absolutely brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And now, the end is here And so they face the final curtain Chainrai, he'll say it clear He'll state his case, of which he’s certain He’s lived a life that's full He’s travelled each and every highway And more, much more than this, he’ll do it his way Fans, they had a Few But then again, too Few to mention They did not do, what they had to do, without exemption He planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway And more, much more than this, they did it his way Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew When they bit off more than they could chew But through it all, when there was doubt He ate it up and spat it out He faced it all and he stood tall and did it his way We loved, we laughed and cried We had our fill, at their losing And now, as tears subside, we find it all so amusing To think they did all that And may we say, not in a sly way, "Oh, no, oh, no, not us, they did it his way" For what is a skunt, what has he got? If not a club, then he has naught To say the things he truly feels are now the words of one who kneels The record shows they took the blows and did it his way! Yes, it was his way[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant. randre
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1:33pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on OSPREYSAINT
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1:50pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra
in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area. MGRA
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1:52pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Confucious says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all. Confucious
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1:52pm Tue 8 Jan 13

oldsaintsfan says...

Great - always love to see good players signing for/linked to Saints. I do worry about the clubs long term finances though when multiple fees of 10m+ are being quoted - hopefully this is media exaggeration. Oh well and hopefully Fonte’s injury is not as bad as feared etc. Villa will be one of my 6-8 away games this season - looking forward to it and hopefully we can nick a win!
Great - always love to see good players signing for/linked to Saints. I do worry about the clubs long term finances though when multiple fees of 10m+ are being quoted - hopefully this is media exaggeration. Oh well and hopefully Fonte’s injury is not as bad as feared etc. Villa will be one of my 6-8 away games this season - looking forward to it and hopefully we can nick a win! oldsaintsfan
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1:53pm Tue 8 Jan 13

oldsaintsfan says...

Great - always love to see good players signing for/linked to Saints. I do worry about the clubs long term finances though when multiple fees of 10m+ are being quoted - hopefully this is media exaggeration. Oh well and hopefully Fonte’s injury is not as bad as feared etc. Villa will be one of my 6-8 away games this season - looking forward to it and hopefully we can nick a win!
Great - always love to see good players signing for/linked to Saints. I do worry about the clubs long term finances though when multiple fees of 10m+ are being quoted - hopefully this is media exaggeration. Oh well and hopefully Fonte’s injury is not as bad as feared etc. Villa will be one of my 6-8 away games this season - looking forward to it and hopefully we can nick a win! oldsaintsfan
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1:56pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra

in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.
That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.[/p][/quote]That's better it's just your opinion, not fact. OSPREYSAINT
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1:57pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Nicole23 says...

Thread being hogged by Ospreysaint boring everyone to death as usual
Thread being hogged by Ospreysaint boring everyone to death as usual Nicole23
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1:58pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Beer Monster says...

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http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4732416/ Portsmouth-FC-2013-c alendar-has-just-thr ee-current-players.h tml Beer Monster
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2:02pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

mack chinnon wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him.

Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good.

That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well.

For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future.

It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car.

I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances.

J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.
Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there.
Wha?
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him. Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good. That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well. For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future. It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car. I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances. J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.[/p][/quote]Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there.[/p][/quote]Wha? SaintJD
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2:05pm Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Beer Monster wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

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rt/football/4732416/

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No training ground, no players, no fans, no money. Even poor old David Connolly has a haunted look on his face whenever he puts on a Pompey shirt.

":("
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4732416/ Portsmouth-FC-2013-c alendar-has-just-thr ee-current-players.h tml[/p][/quote]No training ground, no players, no fans, no money. Even poor old David Connolly has a haunted look on his face whenever he puts on a Pompey shirt. ":(" St Retford
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2:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'.

'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.'

Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives are completely different.

Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club .

For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo!

Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'. 'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. [You MUST have a valid visa to enter] [You HAVE TO sign the visa form before posting it] Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.' Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives [don't have to / mustn't] are completely different. Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club . For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo! Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members? Strasbourg Saint
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2:09pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Nicole23 wrote:
Thread being hogged by Ospreysaint boring everyone to death as usual
Perhaps you may have something interesting to add to the thread, it would make a change.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: Thread being hogged by Ospreysaint boring everyone to death as usual[/p][/quote]Perhaps you may have something interesting to add to the thread, it would make a change. OSPREYSAINT
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2:12pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.[/p][/quote]You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them. OSPREYSAINT
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2:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'.

'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.'

Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives are completely different.

Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club .

For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo!

Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?
I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros...
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'. 'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. [You MUST have a valid visa to enter] [You HAVE TO sign the visa form before posting it] Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.' Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives [don't have to / mustn't] are completely different. Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club . For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo! Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?[/p][/quote]I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros... MGRA
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2:19pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.
before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse?
MGRA any views?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.[/p][/quote]You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.[/p][/quote]before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse? MGRA any views? SaintMax
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2:22pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.
before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse?
MGRA any views?
He won't give edam.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.[/p][/quote]You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.[/p][/quote]before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse? MGRA any views?[/p][/quote]He won't give edam. OSPREYSAINT
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2:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

MGRA wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'.

'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.'

Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives are completely different.

Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club .

For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo!

Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?
I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros...
with all due respect, if your buddy-in-the-know knows about two clubs on the brink of extinction it wouldnt be that hard to find out? Perhaps the Italian 'Companieso Houso' would have their latest figures.
Surely telling you isnt going to push them over the edge?
Its all pasta joke if you ask me.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'. 'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. [You MUST have a valid visa to enter] [You HAVE TO sign the visa form before posting it] Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.' Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives [don't have to / mustn't] are completely different. Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club . For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo! Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?[/p][/quote]I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros...[/p][/quote]with all due respect, if your buddy-in-the-know knows about two clubs on the brink of extinction it wouldnt be that hard to find out? Perhaps the Italian 'Companieso Houso' would have their latest figures. Surely telling you isnt going to push them over the edge? Its all pasta joke if you ask me. SaintMax
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2:30pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra


in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.
That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.
no its not my opinion, its from one of the South's leading experts in that field. There is always the possiblility he was a liar though... ;0)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.[/p][/quote]That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.[/p][/quote]no its not my opinion, its from one of the South's leading experts in that field. There is always the possiblility he was a liar though... ;0) MGRA
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2:35pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'.

'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.'

Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives are completely different.

Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club .

For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo!

Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?
I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros...
with all due respect, if your buddy-in-the-know knows about two clubs on the brink of extinction it wouldnt be that hard to find out? Perhaps the Italian 'Companieso Houso' would have their latest figures.
Surely telling you isnt going to push them over the edge?
Its all pasta joke if you ask me.
no I mean't he won't tell me the details about his company and the "dynamic" as he put it.... yes of course its easy to find out if you are interested in any public domain info.... personally I can't be bothered, generally Italian football is doomed in its present state and thats about as deep as I am interested other than of course the obvious knock-ons for us trying to buy player(s).
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]Well, this is all a lot more interesting than yesterday's tit-for-tat drose with Kuntyboy but I think it's now run its course. MGRA won't budge because 'he's right' and those of us who think differently will never accept that because 'he's wrong'. 'shouldn't' or 'won't'? Well, model verb usage is somewhat weird really. I have a lot of difficulty explaining to the French that 'must' is a strong obligation, whereas 'have to' is generally a bit softer. [You MUST have a valid visa to enter] [You HAVE TO sign the visa form before posting it] Then I tell them about this fantastic footballer who scored shedloads of great goals a few years ago - 'You MUST watch Le Tissier's best goals on You Tube.' Well, most of them think it's their homework and they'll get b0ll0cked if they aren't able to describe how Le Tiss jinxed his way past four Blackburn players before passing the ball 40 yards past Tim Flowers into the top corner. Then I explain that the use of MUST is a wee bit stupid, especially when I add that the negatives [don't have to / mustn't] are completely different. Anyway, let's accept that Ramirez or anyone else SHOULDN'T play when it COULD worsen things for the player and/or club . For what it's worth, on this thread, when he's not trying to defend his stance on Ramirez, and given that he hasn't so far called those who take a different point of view 'idiots', he's made some interesting points about Italian Football's financial poo! Perhaps EUFA could start a new league for all the teams who won't survive the current crisis. They could call it the 'Europa Premier-in-the-sh!t League. Any ideas as to who could be among the founding members?[/p][/quote]I was wrong in that he played but I am convinced I am right in that he was not fit to. so shall we end it there !? Regards 'idiots' , many people say anyone that pays £40 to watch professional footballers played by people on £50,000 a week is an 'idiot' by the very definition of the word ;o) And back to italy, there are two clubs in Italy on the brink of extinction but my buddy-in-the-know won't tell details other than they have 3 months to find about 80 million euros...[/p][/quote]with all due respect, if your buddy-in-the-know knows about two clubs on the brink of extinction it wouldnt be that hard to find out? Perhaps the Italian 'Companieso Houso' would have their latest figures. Surely telling you isnt going to push them over the edge? Its all pasta joke if you ask me.[/p][/quote]no I mean't he won't tell me the details about his company and the "dynamic" as he put it.... yes of course its easy to find out if you are interested in any public domain info.... personally I can't be bothered, generally Italian football is doomed in its present state and thats about as deep as I am interested other than of course the obvious knock-ons for us trying to buy player(s). MGRA
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2:36pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.
Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up. SaintMax
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2:45pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

SaintMax wrote:
Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.
Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.[/p][/quote]Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'. Strasbourg Saint
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2:52pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SaintMax wrote:
Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.
AC Milan spoke to Cagliari last week about him so said talk radio... if he goes there he won't get regular first team football. I hope he does not like getting paid a lot for sitting chewing gum in a dug out.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.[/p][/quote]AC Milan spoke to Cagliari last week about him so said talk radio... if he goes there he won't get regular first team football. I hope he does not like getting paid a lot for sitting chewing gum in a dug out. MGRA
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2:53pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.
Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'.
oustreched, overused, very shrivelled but somehow still capable.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.[/p][/quote]Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'.[/p][/quote]oustreched, overused, very shrivelled but somehow still capable. SaintMax
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2:58pm Tue 8 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra


in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.
That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.
Get a room you two.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.[/p][/quote]That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.[/p][/quote]Get a room you two. mack chinnon
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3:01pm Tue 8 Jan 13

adscm says...

Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
If only one club is interested in signing a player then they may still only be worth £4 to £6 million.

But if more than one club wants him, the price goes up - basic sale and demand!

And let's be honest here, if we bid exactly the same price as Liverpool, in this example, which team is the player most likely to choose?

Therefore, for the like of Saints to sign this quality of player we need to bid more to entice the selling club to at least persuade the player to talk to us.

The same principal (of offering more) probably applies when talking wages with the player/agent etc.

Hence why he may now be worth up to £10 million.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]If only one club is interested in signing a player then they may still only be worth £4 to £6 million. But if more than one club wants him, the price goes up - basic sale and demand! And let's be honest here, if we bid exactly the same price as Liverpool, in this example, which team is the player most likely to choose? Therefore, for the like of Saints to sign this quality of player we need to bid more to entice the selling club to at least persuade the player to talk to us. The same principal (of offering more) probably applies when talking wages with the player/agent etc. Hence why he may now be worth up to £10 million. adscm
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3:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

SaintMax wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.
Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'.
oustreched, overused, very shrivelled but somehow still capable.
That's the Italians for you!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Jusr read that AC Milan may highjack the Astori deal and sign him up.[/p][/quote]Then it'll come down to how hot his WAG is. He'd be mad to sign for Berlusconi if she's going to attract his outstreched 'welcome'.[/p][/quote]oustreched, overused, very shrivelled but somehow still capable.[/p][/quote]That's the Italians for you! Strasbourg Saint
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3:24pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

adscm wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
If only one club is interested in signing a player then they may still only be worth £4 to £6 million.

But if more than one club wants him, the price goes up - basic sale and demand!

And let's be honest here, if we bid exactly the same price as Liverpool, in this example, which team is the player most likely to choose?

Therefore, for the like of Saints to sign this quality of player we need to bid more to entice the selling club to at least persuade the player to talk to us.

The same principal (of offering more) probably applies when talking wages with the player/agent etc.

Hence why he may now be worth up to £10 million.
a big problem ( and possibly a deal breaker for him ) would be , say if he considered a £10m deal with Saints insisting on a £6.5m sale minimum upon relegation should that happen,,, well,,, if he had a nagging doubt that he was not worth £6.5m let alone £10m then he could find himself stranded in the championship with buying himself out of the contract his only escape.... and Saints would be totally mad to pay £10m with just an open release clause if relegation happened so that won't happen.... So if this does go through, hats off to the Don....
[quote][p][bold]adscm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]If only one club is interested in signing a player then they may still only be worth £4 to £6 million. But if more than one club wants him, the price goes up - basic sale and demand! And let's be honest here, if we bid exactly the same price as Liverpool, in this example, which team is the player most likely to choose? Therefore, for the like of Saints to sign this quality of player we need to bid more to entice the selling club to at least persuade the player to talk to us. The same principal (of offering more) probably applies when talking wages with the player/agent etc. Hence why he may now be worth up to £10 million.[/p][/quote]a big problem ( and possibly a deal breaker for him ) would be , say if he considered a £10m deal with Saints insisting on a £6.5m sale minimum upon relegation should that happen,,, well,,, if he had a nagging doubt that he was not worth £6.5m let alone £10m then he could find himself stranded in the championship with buying himself out of the contract his only escape.... and Saints would be totally mad to pay £10m with just an open release clause if relegation happened so that won't happen.... So if this does go through, hats off to the Don.... MGRA
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3:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

SaintMark wrote:
kent141 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...
Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?
Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..
Trying to work out what sort of twisted, sister fiddling, granny muggng, fish abusing weirdo you are!?
Was that really the best you can do? Tanning salon!? Go away little boy before you get cought using the schools computer. You'll get detention and be home late. Daddy wont like that will he. ;)
You must be related to Retford... ;0)
[quote][p][bold]SaintMark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Clubs take one look at Nigel and add a few million to the transfer fees straight away...[/p][/quote]Your problems dwarf ours what are you going to do to redress them?[/p][/quote]Ask J7 to redress the dwarf as he stripped him off quicker than Nigel running to the tanning salon for a top up..[/p][/quote]Trying to work out what sort of twisted, sister fiddling, granny muggng, fish abusing weirdo you are!? Was that really the best you can do? Tanning salon!? Go away little boy before you get cought using the schools computer. You'll get detention and be home late. Daddy wont like that will he. ;)[/p][/quote]You must be related to Retford... ;0) kent141
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3:36pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Confucious says...

SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.
before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse?
MGRA any views?
Don't be tempted MGRA. These people are trying to make a sensible thread silly.

They are the same ones who said that players' bodies are made up of 98% water and therefore they could drown if they had a big glass of water at half time. And I know for a fact that one of them got his poor old auntie to have colonic irrigation because he was hoping he might find some old jewellery.

When Gaston first got his dead leg, they were on here talking about how flamingos go to sleep on one leg - simply refusing to acknowledge my point that a sleeping leg is not the same as a dead leg and that Gaston is genetically so far removed from the flamingo that the point is completely irrelevant anyway.

Sometimes I despair at the inanity on here.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.[/p][/quote]You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.[/p][/quote]before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse? MGRA any views?[/p][/quote]Don't be tempted MGRA. These people are trying to make a sensible thread silly. They are the same ones who said that players' bodies are made up of 98% water and therefore they could drown if they had a big glass of water at half time. And I know for a fact that one of them got his poor old auntie to have colonic irrigation because he was hoping he might find some old jewellery. When Gaston first got his dead leg, they were on here talking about how flamingos go to sleep on one leg - simply refusing to acknowledge my point that a sleeping leg is not the same as a dead leg and that Gaston is genetically so far removed from the flamingo that the point is completely irrelevant anyway. Sometimes I despair at the inanity on here. Confucious
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3:49pm Tue 8 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

SaintJD wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him.

Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good.

That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well.

For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future.

It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car.

I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances.

J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.
Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there.
Wha?
He is our East African scout.I expect him to be busy during the A.C.N.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Comparing the Michu signing to Ramirez is a bit unfair. For all the Michu's out there there are loads who didn't make it. Virtually every manager in the Premier League is wishing they'd spotted him. Alan Pardew has certainly had a good run on signings as well and seems their scouting network is pretty good. That said, there are also loads of very expensive prospects that haven't delivered as well. For me it's all about having the right person in that scouting role - go out, recruit them for good money and it will save you a lot of money on players in the future. It's a bit like a formula 1 team investing in top drivers, but not spending a much smaller outlay to get Adrian Newey to design the car. I'd say that, by and large, the quality of our major signings has been pretty good so far though, bar Lee and Mayuka based on lack of appearances. J Rod will, I think, develop into a very good player indeed if we can get to play him more regularly, but a difficult balancing act, could almost do with a season banging them in for fun in the Championship.[/p][/quote]Hows Jadi doing? Its all gone quiet over there.[/p][/quote]Wha?[/p][/quote]He is our East African scout.I expect him to be busy during the A.C.N. mack chinnon
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3:54pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

I see that 'out of favour Leicester midfielder' Neil Danns has joined Huddersfield on loan. I remember some people thought he'd be the answer to our midfield. (I never really had an opinion because I'd not seen much of him).

Anyway, unlike Michu, this doesn't now seem to be one that got away.

But it's a reminder of our progress, isn't it? Neil Danns or Gaston Ramirez? Not hard, is it?
I see that 'out of favour Leicester midfielder' Neil Danns has joined Huddersfield on loan. I remember some people thought he'd be the answer to our midfield. (I never really had an opinion because I'd not seen much of him). Anyway, unlike Michu, this doesn't now seem to be one that got away. But it's a reminder of our progress, isn't it? Neil Danns or Gaston Ramirez? Not hard, is it? Strasbourg Saint
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4:05pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.
now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....
But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.
I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.
well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....
.. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.
I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....
MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...
do u know what. u are completely wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: One question I have about this is: why is a player that was originally signed €4m and can't get into the team now worth £10m? Surely, we should be able to get him cheaper than that.[/p][/quote]now that Fonte is knackered, their asking price would have automatically gone up £2m.... Also remember that its only really the Prem and La Liga that have stupid transfer prices.. the rest of Europe generally have much lower transfer costs....Foreign clubs know about the SKY money obviously and want their slice for signings....[/p][/quote]But €4m + £2m still isn't even close to £10m.[/p][/quote]I think it might be a bit of creative journalism, there's no way on earth Saints would pay silly money for anybody, not Cortese's style, if we get them it'll be for a fair price which we'll find out about in a year or so's time when they finally release the accounts.[/p][/quote]well if you believe the crud about gaston only being used for home games and a "few" away games then we already have paid "silly" money for someone... I happen to think its all bluff and he is still not 100% fit but if the official line is correct then 12M for a part time player was madness imo....[/p][/quote].. however you have no more idea than the rest of us, speculate all you like, the truth is out there, but we may never know for sure.[/p][/quote]I knew he wasn't fit when others thought he was... or were told he was....[/p][/quote]MGRA, you know what, I'm worried that you actually believe what you're typing. You really do think you know far more about his fitness than the physios, the management team (headed by an ex-physio in NA) and the medical team who have been able to assess him (with fitness tests, scans and other assessments) non-stop since his injury. By *guessing* what had happened to him you've somehow managed to know far better than that lot. And your implication in other posts that he's still carrying the injury is probably supported by the fact that he only managed two goals against Arsenal last week. Look, you made a silly throw-away comment that he wouldn't be back before December and you seem to feel forced to defend it even though it's all looking a bit silly. Frankly, you're looking like a politician defending an utterly discredited policy. Be a man, admit you were utterly wrong and move on. If it helps, mistakes I've publicly admitted to on here: I hated Guly and now rate him highly; I didn't see the point of Jack Cork until he went missing; I detested Artur Boruc after his first two games yet I'd now pick him out of the three we have. See; not hard, really. Do move on and drop the scratched record impression...[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong. Five Trophies Between Us
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4:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
One thing I'm not planning on doing is what I did in August, namely taking a view on whom we may or may not sign. One of the great (and yet frustrating to many) things about Saints is that we never seem to comment about speculation, so all we see is a hotch-potch of guesswork. We'll doubtless sign some players. I'm sure that NA may well have noticed that we need some depth in the squad. *After* we have signed them, I'll take an interest in them. I'm not having another month like August again, when I wasted hours looking up players who were never to become part of our team.
do u know what. u are completely wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: One thing I'm not planning on doing is what I did in August, namely taking a view on whom we may or may not sign. One of the great (and yet frustrating to many) things about Saints is that we never seem to comment about speculation, so all we see is a hotch-potch of guesswork. We'll doubtless sign some players. I'm sure that NA may well have noticed that we need some depth in the squad. *After* we have signed them, I'll take an interest in them. I'm not having another month like August again, when I wasted hours looking up players who were never to become part of our team.[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong. Five Trophies Between Us
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4:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless Five Trophies Between Us
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4:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13

onlyme444444 says...

I reckon we will end up loaning Boyata from Man City as they brought him back but from FC Twente and want to loan him out again.
I reckon we will end up loaning Boyata from Man City as they brought him back but from FC Twente and want to loan him out again. onlyme444444
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4:22pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
You know what, you're completely right.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]You know what, you're completely right. Velleity
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4:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Thanks for joining in. Sadly, we're not going to be able to extend your contract here so you're free to pursue other interests.

Still, you're used to this sort of thing.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Thanks for joining in. Sadly, we're not going to be able to extend your contract here so you're free to pursue other interests. Still, you're used to this sort of thing. St Retford
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5:01pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

Anyone think Fulham would part with Bret Hangeland? Maybe worth asking the question. 31, but age wouldn't be an issue in that case and they are discussing a new deal at the moment.

That said, I just want some quick and easy deals now. No mucking about like the Astori deal.

We do not need Champions League standard defenders.

It's like we're looking to jump from Championship level players to potential World-class (potentially equalling expensive but unproven in England) without bothering to look in between.

Didn't see West Ham spending a huge amount on their defence, but there is no doubting what they did buy will most likely keep them up this season.

They are way worse than us in all other departments, but Reid, Collins and Jääskeläinen have made them nicely solid without any big outlay.

I disagree with their policy of buying old, tried and tested in the likes of Joe Cole and attacking areas, but central defence and goal is a totally different thing.

It isn't rocket science and I simply don't believe the players aren't out there. Sunderland, Stoke, Villa, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool and Swansea have squad keepers and defenders that are better than our back up players, but that's just at first glance. Why can't we just do what other clubs do and go in for them?
Anyone think Fulham would part with Bret Hangeland? Maybe worth asking the question. 31, but age wouldn't be an issue in that case and they are discussing a new deal at the moment. That said, I just want some quick and easy deals now. No mucking about like the Astori deal. We do not need Champions League standard defenders. It's like we're looking to jump from Championship level players to potential World-class (potentially equalling expensive but unproven in England) without bothering to look in between. Didn't see West Ham spending a huge amount on their defence, but there is no doubting what they did buy will most likely keep them up this season. They are way worse than us in all other departments, but Reid, Collins and Jääskeläinen have made them nicely solid without any big outlay. I disagree with their policy of buying old, tried and tested in the likes of Joe Cole and attacking areas, but central defence and goal is a totally different thing. It isn't rocket science and I simply don't believe the players aren't out there. Sunderland, Stoke, Villa, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool and Swansea have squad keepers and defenders that are better than our back up players, but that's just at first glance. Why can't we just do what other clubs do and go in for them? SaintJD
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5:03pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad.

If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad. If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day. Velleity
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5:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintsdan says...

Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost!
Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost! saintsdan
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5:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

mack chinnon wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra



in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.
That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.
Get a room you two.
I have a house, don't need a room thanks.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion it was amateurish to rush him back and play him in that game. Footballers are the most suseptible to secondary injury and recovery retardation with that sort of injury. Rugby players for instance had a simply code for severe dead leg recovery and the timescale for them is usually 3-4 weeks. Many use the ice-knee90degree-tra in method that has worked well for decades. Footballers on the other hand are more prone to other muscles protecting the injury due to the nature of the game and its common for footballers who return too soon following deadlegs, hairline fractures and muscle tears to go onto get secondary problems, hamstrings being one. Barca and other European clubs use a technique called "intra-muscular electrotherapy" to speed up recovery. Its something I had once on an injury and this technique can accurately measure nerve-repair in such injuries. I have heard that many top flight English clubs are not as thorough in this area.[/p][/quote]That's better it's just your opinion, not fact.[/p][/quote]Get a room you two.[/p][/quote]I have a house, don't need a room thanks. OSPREYSAINT
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5:08pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless OSPREYSAINT
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5:12pm Tue 8 Jan 13

right back in the bar says...

Liam Bridcutt and that Buckley kid - would love to poach them from that knob-end Poyet
Liam Bridcutt and that Buckley kid - would love to poach them from that knob-end Poyet right back in the bar
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5:13pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

saintsdan wrote:
Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost!
Thats 15000 off the attendance then....
[quote][p][bold]saintsdan[/bold] wrote: Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost![/p][/quote]Thats 15000 off the attendance then.... kent141
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5:21pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....
You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.
No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.
Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on
The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse.

This actually made me a lot worse.

Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.
You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.
before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse?
MGRA any views?
Don't be tempted MGRA. These people are trying to make a sensible thread silly.

They are the same ones who said that players' bodies are made up of 98% water and therefore they could drown if they had a big glass of water at half time. And I know for a fact that one of them got his poor old auntie to have colonic irrigation because he was hoping he might find some old jewellery.

When Gaston first got his dead leg, they were on here talking about how flamingos go to sleep on one leg - simply refusing to acknowledge my point that a sleeping leg is not the same as a dead leg and that Gaston is genetically so far removed from the flamingo that the point is completely irrelevant anyway.

Sometimes I despair at the inanity on here.
Seems that ananity is better than boring, I have said enough for today.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]I was proved right on Gaston, he was not fit when he returned ( in fact a million miles away from fitness ) and my source on that one was spot on as usual. The fact he played whilst injured just makes Saints foolish in some peoples opinion. Regards business networks, a mate of mine happens to be involved directly with the champions league sponsorship events and was telling me just how stuffed some of the Italian clubs are.... his particular company was asked to pay up front in September for all colateral sponsorship issues for 2 certain clubs and they politely refused. He also explained that some of the creditors are not financial instutions and under Italian law some of them have greater rights to claw back their "investments"....[/p][/quote]You are incorrect, Rambo was physically fit when he returned, not match fit, for obvious reasons, his present injury is on the other leg and was picked up in the Arsenal game. No one has disputed that some Italian Clubs are financially strapped, that's why it make sense to approach them for players, but NC will not be taken for a mug, and does not suffer fools gladly. He will fight for the best deal, if that is not fairly available he will walk away.[/p][/quote]No I am correct. He was not fit to start a game. Anyone who knows a jot about football realised that after 5 minutes. People took my "prediction" literally. I obviously mean't "shouldn't" rather than "won't" but if people get pleasure out of clinging onto semantics then thats great for them. It does not change biology and the spin of the Earth.[/p][/quote]Are you saying that they were after another payment from Injury Lawyers For You? I cannot imagine a Club forcing a £12m investment to play if he wasn't fit to do so. However I have been told I know nothing about football so like Rambo I haven't a leg to stand on[/p][/quote]The problem is almost certainly with the club doctor. I e mailed him after Christmas for advice as I was feeling very bloated. He told me I needed to clear my system out and should sit on a big piece of cheese and swallow a mouse. This actually made me a lot worse. Full marks for replying though. Nigel just pinches all my ideas with no acknowledgement at all.[/p][/quote]You should be careful about the choice of cheese to sit on though, some can be quite messy. You should copyright those ideas before you send them.[/p][/quote]before we get off this topic can you confirm whether the cheese needs to be inserted simultaneoulsy while swallowing the mouse? MGRA any views?[/p][/quote]Don't be tempted MGRA. These people are trying to make a sensible thread silly. They are the same ones who said that players' bodies are made up of 98% water and therefore they could drown if they had a big glass of water at half time. And I know for a fact that one of them got his poor old auntie to have colonic irrigation because he was hoping he might find some old jewellery. When Gaston first got his dead leg, they were on here talking about how flamingos go to sleep on one leg - simply refusing to acknowledge my point that a sleeping leg is not the same as a dead leg and that Gaston is genetically so far removed from the flamingo that the point is completely irrelevant anyway. Sometimes I despair at the inanity on here.[/p][/quote]Seems that ananity is better than boring, I have said enough for today. OSPREYSAINT
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5:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

Velleity wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad.

If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day.
Yeah, to be fair to me I did stand up for him before realising quite how obsessed he was with the idea that he wasn't wrong. I've learnt my lesson.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad. If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day.[/p][/quote]Yeah, to be fair to me I did stand up for him before realising quite how obsessed he was with the idea that he wasn't wrong. I've learnt my lesson. SaintJD
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5:28pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintsdan says...

kent141 wrote:
saintsdan wrote:
Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost!
Thats 15000 off the attendance then....
Your proberly right and that is a sad thing, i believe you should support your team no mater what happens!
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintsdan[/bold] wrote: Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost![/p][/quote]Thats 15000 off the attendance then....[/p][/quote]Your proberly right and that is a sad thing, i believe you should support your team no mater what happens! saintsdan
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5:28pm Tue 8 Jan 13

kent141 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
I see that 'out of favour Leicester midfielder' Neil Danns has joined Huddersfield on loan. I remember some people thought he'd be the answer to our midfield. (I never really had an opinion because I'd not seen much of him).

Anyway, unlike Michu, this doesn't now seem to be one that got away.

But it's a reminder of our progress, isn't it? Neil Danns or Gaston Ramirez? Not hard, is it?
Danns wins hands down.....£12m for a injury prone lightweight speaks for itself..
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: I see that 'out of favour Leicester midfielder' Neil Danns has joined Huddersfield on loan. I remember some people thought he'd be the answer to our midfield. (I never really had an opinion because I'd not seen much of him). Anyway, unlike Michu, this doesn't now seem to be one that got away. But it's a reminder of our progress, isn't it? Neil Danns or Gaston Ramirez? Not hard, is it?[/p][/quote]Danns wins hands down.....£12m for a injury prone lightweight speaks for itself.. kent141
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5:37pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

saintsdan wrote:
Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost!
I think you can count maybe one or two people on here that slag off NC and NA, the vast, vast majority don't.

They've done a brilliant job, but we do need a couple of cheap defenders and a keeper.

It's obvious, it's been obvious for months and now I hope and trust they go and bring them in before we lose too many more points.

I'm over the moon that we've got to this point of the season still with a real chance of being safe, even comfortably safe.

That's an amazing effort for me, especially because we've stuck by our manager and ethos and haven't shown signs of panic.

Would be a real shame if that whole programme was de-railed because we don't get the basics right, but I'm sure they will. Let's face it, everyone on here, and in the media and probably in football knows where we need to strengthen this window and I'm sure NA and NC know better than anyone, whatever they may say to manage team morale in interviews.
[quote][p][bold]saintsdan[/bold] wrote: Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost![/p][/quote]I think you can count maybe one or two people on here that slag off NC and NA, the vast, vast majority don't. They've done a brilliant job, but we do need a couple of cheap defenders and a keeper. It's obvious, it's been obvious for months and now I hope and trust they go and bring them in before we lose too many more points. I'm over the moon that we've got to this point of the season still with a real chance of being safe, even comfortably safe. That's an amazing effort for me, especially because we've stuck by our manager and ethos and haven't shown signs of panic. Would be a real shame if that whole programme was de-railed because we don't get the basics right, but I'm sure they will. Let's face it, everyone on here, and in the media and probably in football knows where we need to strengthen this window and I'm sure NA and NC know better than anyone, whatever they may say to manage team morale in interviews. SaintJD
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5:50pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

SaintJD wrote:
saintsdan wrote:
Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost!
I think you can count maybe one or two people on here that slag off NC and NA, the vast, vast majority don't.

They've done a brilliant job, but we do need a couple of cheap defenders and a keeper.

It's obvious, it's been obvious for months and now I hope and trust they go and bring them in before we lose too many more points.

I'm over the moon that we've got to this point of the season still with a real chance of being safe, even comfortably safe.

That's an amazing effort for me, especially because we've stuck by our manager and ethos and haven't shown signs of panic.

Would be a real shame if that whole programme was de-railed because we don't get the basics right, but I'm sure they will. Let's face it, everyone on here, and in the media and probably in football knows where we need to strengthen this window and I'm sure NA and NC know better than anyone, whatever they may say to manage team morale in interviews.
Couldn't agree more with both of you ......... as an aside , could people not just quote after quote after quote please ........ it's tedious .
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintsdan[/bold] wrote: Love how people slag off NC and NA short memories just a few years ago we were bottom of league one now were in the prem! Saints need supporters not moaners get behind your team or get lost![/p][/quote]I think you can count maybe one or two people on here that slag off NC and NA, the vast, vast majority don't. They've done a brilliant job, but we do need a couple of cheap defenders and a keeper. It's obvious, it's been obvious for months and now I hope and trust they go and bring them in before we lose too many more points. I'm over the moon that we've got to this point of the season still with a real chance of being safe, even comfortably safe. That's an amazing effort for me, especially because we've stuck by our manager and ethos and haven't shown signs of panic. Would be a real shame if that whole programme was de-railed because we don't get the basics right, but I'm sure they will. Let's face it, everyone on here, and in the media and probably in football knows where we need to strengthen this window and I'm sure NA and NC know better than anyone, whatever they may say to manage team morale in interviews.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more with both of you ......... as an aside , could people not just quote after quote after quote please ........ it's tedious . slugger
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5:54pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

There's a price for anything I know, but £20m sounds like too much to me. I suspect NC will be hard-nosed on price (quite right too).

In other news, Villa away is sold out COYR
There's a price for anything I know, but £20m sounds like too much to me. I suspect NC will be hard-nosed on price (quite right too). In other news, Villa away is sold out COYR Baddesley Bill
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6:01pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SaintJD wrote:
Velleity wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee.

But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori.

Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.
Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....
A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is!
I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones.

Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..
I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.
Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business.

:0)
Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it.

Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.
It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad.

If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day.
Yeah, to be fair to me I did stand up for him before realising quite how obsessed he was with the idea that he wasn't wrong. I've learnt my lesson.
so now your part of the cozy club ! bravo to you ! Its what its all about on here,,, pick on one word to prove a point, throw logic out of the window, ignore the evidence in front of you own eyes and feel great about yourself. Its what the internet is great for. But then again its not seeing the wood-for-the-trees often in footy.... otherwise attendances would drop like a stone. Slavish pack mentality will help you in bucket loads on here and all those who spent to travel to West Ham and thought Gaston played a blinder and was match-fit got what they wanted out of the experience and I dare say had a jolly good laugh at my expense, which is sooper. As is the fact that people seem happy with the semi-official line that the £12m player is only going to be a part timer for us !? Its part of the rich soup that is footy....where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal and harmless blue flares attract more attention than threats of violence in the stand. None of it makes sense.... so go enjoy yourself with your new word-smith friends... I am sure I will provide much ammunition in the future for you to exploit !! :-)
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: The thing with Gaston is that he has the potential to be a far better player than Michu is by the time he gets to his age, and that was reflected in the transfer fee. But he also served a double function as a marquee signing who said to the world "We are Southampton and we mean business" which should - fingers crossed - make it far easier to sign the likes of Astori. Nicola is a shrewd negotiator though and he won't rush a deal through just for the sake of it - he'll do what's right for this football club.[/p][/quote]Nicola will have to face up to the reality with regards buying in Italy right now... and that is most Italian clubs need cash NOW, not installments, staged payments or sell-on premiums.... Its this that will halt proceedings I fear. I am pretty sure if a player wants to play for us the wages won't be a stumbling block....[/p][/quote]A bit dodgy telling NC what he has to do, unless you fancy horses, the head part that is![/p][/quote]I also think that Nicola isn't as wet behind the negotiating ears as you suggest MGRA. footballing ones yes, but not business ones. Which suggests he has four ears, two pairs and I'm starting to post like Confuscious..[/p][/quote]I am not saying he is wet behind the ears, I am just pointing out something many may have missed... that is the fact that the Italians won't be interested in elastic deals,,, it will be cash up front on most if not all of the deal. Or there won't be a deal. The only ace he may have over others is through contacts he may have access to with information with allows him to massage certain 3rd parties to allow a bit of movement. Italian clubs are in dire straits.[/p][/quote]Interestibg point MGRA. I thought you were our medical expert, whereas you also have a penchant for business. :0)[/p][/quote]Let it go guys. It's the new year, time to forget the odd comment made last October. He wouldn't have had to defend it as much if he hadn't had so many people jumping on it. Anyway, even the so called medical experts said John Terry would be back mid December and I can't remember them apologising for that diagnosis.[/p][/quote]It's OK to say "Let it go", but MRSA the medical expert was the one who brought the subject into this thread (8:57am). He also brought it into a thread last night about Jose Fonte for some indecipherable reason. It's a bit of an obsession for the poor lad. If he stops bringing it up, we'll probably forget it one day.[/p][/quote]Yeah, to be fair to me I did stand up for him before realising quite how obsessed he was with the idea that he wasn't wrong. I've learnt my lesson.[/p][/quote]so now your part of the cozy club ! bravo to you ! Its what its all about on here,,, pick on one word to prove a point, throw logic out of the window, ignore the evidence in front of you own eyes and feel great about yourself. Its what the internet is great for. But then again its not seeing the wood-for-the-trees often in footy.... otherwise attendances would drop like a stone. Slavish pack mentality will help you in bucket loads on here and all those who spent to travel to West Ham and thought Gaston played a blinder and was match-fit got what they wanted out of the experience and I dare say had a jolly good laugh at my expense, which is sooper. As is the fact that people seem happy with the semi-official line that the £12m player is only going to be a part timer for us !? Its part of the rich soup that is footy....where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal and harmless blue flares attract more attention than threats of violence in the stand. None of it makes sense.... so go enjoy yourself with your new word-smith friends... I am sure I will provide much ammunition in the future for you to exploit !! :-) MGRA
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6:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend...

I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession
, possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt.


This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff...

...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right...

...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple..

..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES..

..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer. warrens 76
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6:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal

Did that really happen?? I'm all for it if they are adults but kids is another matter
where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal Did that really happen?? I'm all for it if they are adults but kids is another matter SO50 Saint
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6:07pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ! slugger
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6:14pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless
I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless[/p][/quote]I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell! saintlysoul
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6:23pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend...

I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession

, possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt.


This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff...

...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right...

...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple..

..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES..

..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years?

Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.[/p][/quote]So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more? SaintMax
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6:24pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental
ity.... roger, message recieved....
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved.... MGRA
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6:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal

Did that really happen?? I'm all for it if they are adults but kids is another matter
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: where kids get ejected from the family enclosure for supporting Arsenal Did that really happen?? I'm all for it if they are adults but kids is another matter[/p][/quote]family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them.... MGRA
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6:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
My Mrs and her mother never admit they may have been wrong too.

Hey, all their names begin with M!..

Mrs, Mother, MGRA!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]My Mrs and her mother never admit they may have been wrong too. Hey, all their names begin with M!.. Mrs, Mother, MGRA! SaintMax
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6:30pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure. SO50 Saint
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6:35pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Snebs says...

how about Ramsey on loan from Arsenal?
how about Ramsey on loan from Arsenal? Snebs
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6:37pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend...

I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession


, possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt.


This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff...

...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right...

...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple..

..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES..

..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years?

Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?
Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.[/p][/quote]So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?[/p][/quote]Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you! warrens 76
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6:38pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.[/p][/quote]just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards... MGRA
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6:40pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...”

I do remember when sitiing in Junior Saints at the Dell other teams used to have fans who would come down IIRC. To be honest I quite like the new stewards after a few beers it's nice to have a nice bird offering you a programme that your not interested in purchasing.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...” I do remember when sitiing in Junior Saints at the Dell other teams used to have fans who would come down IIRC. To be honest I quite like the new stewards after a few beers it's nice to have a nice bird offering you a programme that your not interested in purchasing. SO50 Saint
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6:42pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

MGRA wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...
Bimbo programme sellers - they're gorgeous!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.[/p][/quote]just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...[/p][/quote]Bimbo programme sellers - they're gorgeous!!!!!! saintlysoul
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6:42pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

MGRA wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...
Yes..Stewards, ah the 21st century car park jobsworths who actually 'believe' they are saving life and limb..clueless and an indictment of the world we live in..they take the silver they must take the blame..there is virtually no risk in a modern stadium, except in their mind.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.[/p][/quote]just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...[/p][/quote]Yes..Stewards, ah the 21st century car park jobsworths who actually 'believe' they are saving life and limb..clueless and an indictment of the world we live in..they take the silver they must take the blame..there is virtually no risk in a modern stadium, except in their mind. warrens 76
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6:42pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...”

I do remember when sitiing in Junior Saints at the Dell other teams used to have fans who would come down IIRC. To be honest I quite like the new stewards after a few beers it's nice to have a nice bird offering you a programme that your not interested in purchasing.
yes thats quite a philosophical way of looking at it....
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...” I do remember when sitiing in Junior Saints at the Dell other teams used to have fans who would come down IIRC. To be honest I quite like the new stewards after a few beers it's nice to have a nice bird offering you a programme that your not interested in purchasing.[/p][/quote]yes thats quite a philosophical way of looking at it.... MGRA
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6:43pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental

ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do . slugger
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6:48pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

yes thats quite a philosophical way of looking at it....”

First time someones ever called me philosophical I meant programme sellers by the way not stewards. Although at the back of block 41 where I stand the stewards are usually pretty sound as long as no-one stands in the aisles. The Phil Brown lookalike has been there for years
yes thats quite a philosophical way of looking at it....” First time someones ever called me philosophical I meant programme sellers by the way not stewards. Although at the back of block 41 where I stand the stewards are usually pretty sound as long as no-one stands in the aisles. The Phil Brown lookalike has been there for years SO50 Saint
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6:49pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

Snebs wrote:
how about Ramsey on loan from Arsenal?
Alf?
[quote][p][bold]Snebs[/bold] wrote: how about Ramsey on loan from Arsenal?[/p][/quote]Alf? warrens 76
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6:54pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental


ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game.... MGRA
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6:58pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental



ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! saintlysoul
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7:01pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental



ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
I believe that is part of it , Nicola won't be ripped off though (imo) and i'm with him all the way .......... i do wonder whether an ageing , experienced and fit defender would be a better short term option .
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]I believe that is part of it , Nicola won't be ripped off though (imo) and i'm with him all the way .......... i do wonder whether an ageing , experienced and fit defender would be a better short term option . slugger
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7:03pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental




ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On what evidence do you base this theory ?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]On what evidence do you base this theory ? slugger
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7:04pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

I agree with you Slugger defo need that and the other 2 would be excellent to. I don't buy into there's no money full houses etc
I agree with you Slugger defo need that and the other 2 would be excellent to. I don't buy into there's no money full houses etc SO50 Saint
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7:07pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental





ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On what evidence do you base this theory ?
As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]On what evidence do you base this theory ?[/p][/quote]As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame. saintlysoul
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7:09pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Was that one of the programme sellers saintly?
Was that one of the programme sellers saintly? SO50 Saint
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7:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental






ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On what evidence do you base this theory ?
As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame.
Oh , "the little bird" told you ..... you don't fool me skunt !
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]On what evidence do you base this theory ?[/p][/quote]As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame.[/p][/quote]Oh , "the little bird" told you ..... you don't fool me skunt ! slugger
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7:14pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental






ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On what evidence do you base this theory ?
As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame.
I have little doubt that the relationship between NA and NC gets a little strained....so does mine between me and my boss on occaisions!

Not so sure on the "no money" theory though...offers appear to have been made which suggests to me that there will be some player investment.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]On what evidence do you base this theory ?[/p][/quote]As they say 'a little bird told me' and a very reliable one - time will tell. The relationship between NC and NA is poor at the moment indeed strained. I wouldn't be surprised if NA will be on his way. That would be a shame.[/p][/quote]I have little doubt that the relationship between NA and NC gets a little strained....so does mine between me and my boss on occaisions! Not so sure on the "no money" theory though...offers appear to have been made which suggests to me that there will be some player investment. Baddesley Bill
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7:17pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy! saintlysoul
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7:22pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
You know what, you're completely right.
do u know what. u are completely wrong
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]You know what, you're completely right.[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong Five Trophies Between Us
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7:24pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

St Retford wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Thanks for joining in. Sadly, we're not going to be able to extend your contract here so you're free to pursue other interests. Still, you're used to this sort of thing.
ur not a witty 1 r u?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Thanks for joining in. Sadly, we're not going to be able to extend your contract here so you're free to pursue other interests. Still, you're used to this sort of thing.[/p][/quote]ur not a witty 1 r u? Five Trophies Between Us
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7:24pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

Saintlysoul , i have a long memory , i get objectionable when i smell a rotten smell .
Saintlysoul , i have a long memory , i get objectionable when i smell a rotten smell . slugger
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7:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless
not needed = stroppy gramps
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless[/p][/quote]not needed = stroppy gramps Five Trophies Between Us
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7:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal? Baddesley Bill
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7:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless
I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell!
on the goalie front he is clueless
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless[/p][/quote]I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell![/p][/quote]on the goalie front he is clueless Five Trophies Between Us
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7:27pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years
FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years SO50 Saint
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7:32pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
Saintlysoul , i have a long memory , i get objectionable when i smell a rotten smell .
Slugger you don't need to be objectionable your posts are informative and at times witty. All I'm doing is sharing what I've been told. I've no reason to disbelieve what I've been told. I'd like to think its wrong but I don't think it is. It's depressing to think that there won't be any big signings in January and that the chairman and manager are 'strained'. It's unfair on the fans for the DE to write this speculative inaccurate clap trap when it has no substance. It's only effect is to raise fans expectations unfairly. Now if you think I've some ulterior motive in writing this and that I'm a Portsmouth supporter then fine you're entitled to that view but just don't say I didn't tell you come February.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Saintlysoul , i have a long memory , i get objectionable when i smell a rotten smell .[/p][/quote]Slugger you don't need to be objectionable your posts are informative and at times witty. All I'm doing is sharing what I've been told. I've no reason to disbelieve what I've been told. I'd like to think its wrong but I don't think it is. It's depressing to think that there won't be any big signings in January and that the chairman and manager are 'strained'. It's unfair on the fans for the DE to write this speculative inaccurate clap trap when it has no substance. It's only effect is to raise fans expectations unfairly. Now if you think I've some ulterior motive in writing this and that I'm a Portsmouth supporter then fine you're entitled to that view but just don't say I didn't tell you come February. saintlysoul
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7:33pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years
LOL ...... they can keep their trophy's and history , we're too busy planning our future ....... how much money do the Liebherr's actually have ? ....... it brings a tear to my eye every time i remind myself !
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years[/p][/quote]LOL ...... they can keep their trophy's and history , we're too busy planning our future ....... how much money do the Liebherr's actually have ? ....... it brings a tear to my eye every time i remind myself ! slugger
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7:36pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years
I've heard there could be a big signing at Fratton Park this month. Rumour has it they are after Razor Ruddock.. Have you seen him in his pants on celeb BBrother?
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years[/p][/quote]I've heard there could be a big signing at Fratton Park this month. Rumour has it they are after Razor Ruddock.. Have you seen him in his pants on celeb BBrother? SaintMax
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7:36pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are SO50 Saint
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7:38pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless
I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell!
on the goalie front he is clueless
I hope he's bought his Pompey calender...apparentl
y there's only three left (players on it.. that is!!!) :O)
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]Needed sensible posters = 5trop clueless[/p][/quote]I don't think NA is clueless I bet the first he knew of this was when he saw it in the DE. similar to when Guly arrived at the training ground at Marchwood and when asked by the security staff what he wanted he announced he was reporting for training. He was taken down to Alan Pardew who was told he had arrived and Pardew knew nothing about Guly having been signed!!! I think this is actually all paper talk. IMO NC doesn't have the money to purchase new players and you'll find he will probably be seeking short term loan deals on English players. That's the reality. As they say time will tell![/p][/quote]on the goalie front he is clueless[/p][/quote]I hope he's bought his Pompey calender...apparentl y there's only three left (players on it.. that is!!!) :O) Baddesley Bill
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7:38pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years
is the chapel stand named so cos it is so quiet? how sad 4 u that chelsea boys were laughing at ur quiet fans. haha
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years[/p][/quote]is the chapel stand named so cos it is so quiet? how sad 4 u that chelsea boys were laughing at ur quiet fans. haha Five Trophies Between Us
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7:39pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

warrens 76 wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend...

I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession



, possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt.


This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff...

...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right...

...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple..

..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES..

..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years?

Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?
Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you!
I've mentioned this before and I'm growing to believe it more and more: for two seasons running, the form for many matches was "Turn up, go two ahead, relax".

Even last season, if we ended up only one goal ahead more than half way through the game, panic would set in. Instead of carrying on withthe tactics that had set us in the lead, the team would be flapping all over.

So, warrens76, I'm led to agree with you - some work on just keeping up normal service when we're winning might work wonders.

Clive Woodward said the same thing when he managed England to the World Cup - just keep playing as planned whatever the scoreline.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.[/p][/quote]So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?[/p][/quote]Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you![/p][/quote]I've mentioned this before and I'm growing to believe it more and more: for two seasons running, the form for many matches was "Turn up, go two ahead, relax". Even last season, if we ended up only one goal ahead more than half way through the game, panic would set in. Instead of carrying on withthe tactics that had set us in the lead, the team would be flapping all over. So, warrens76, I'm led to agree with you - some work on just keeping up normal service when we're winning might work wonders. Clive Woodward said the same thing when he managed England to the World Cup - just keep playing as planned whatever the scoreline. Velleity
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7:42pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Yea thats a real shame FTBU I didn't go myself saving up for more important games than FA Cup 3rd round games remind me how did you get on in the 3rd round sorry forgot you played Walsall on Friday and the away support was so pathetic it was unbelievable. That for me summed your club up the fans have given in time for the court case to happen and good night PFC. From what I have heard on Saturday it wasn't a great atmosphere but it doesn't help when out main stand goes to the away side. Spose it must be hard down Fratton now when more away fans are there than home fans
Yea thats a real shame FTBU I didn't go myself saving up for more important games than FA Cup 3rd round games remind me how did you get on in the 3rd round sorry forgot you played Walsall on Friday and the away support was so pathetic it was unbelievable. That for me summed your club up the fans have given in time for the court case to happen and good night PFC. From what I have heard on Saturday it wasn't a great atmosphere but it doesn't help when out main stand goes to the away side. Spose it must be hard down Fratton now when more away fans are there than home fans SO50 Saint
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7:43pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are[/p][/quote]Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!! saintlysoul
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7:45pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental




ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You've said "there's no money" twice in this thread.

Is there any basis for that?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You've said "there's no money" twice in this thread. Is there any basis for that? Velleity
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7:46pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!”

Try SSN also reporting on the same story well Astori anyway. Well they were when I left for work earlier
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!” Try SSN also reporting on the same story well Astori anyway. Well they were when I left for work earlier SO50 Saint
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7:47pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS !
ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental





ity.... roger, message recieved....
I promise not to mention it again if you do .
a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....
NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You've said "there's no money" twice in this thread.

Is there any basis for that?
See what I've posted in response to Slugger!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: MGRA , get off of your high horse ....... you WERE wrong about Gaston's return and are now just expressing an opinnion (a wrong one in my view) in an effort to save face ....... let it go FFS ![/p][/quote]ah yes , I just have to wait until someone else snipes and does not "let it go" and then I have to "let it go".... got it !! internet-pack-mental ity.... roger, message recieved....[/p][/quote]I promise not to mention it again if you do .[/p][/quote]a done deal.. I will even extend that to "let it go" even if someone else " does not let it go" and posts a snipe.... I have ( just about ) enough self control... now back to Transfers... NC should be able to pull this off, I can not entertain the thought that he is just part of ramp-up-the-price game....[/p][/quote]NC won't 'pull this off' there's no money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You've said "there's no money" twice in this thread. Is there any basis for that?[/p][/quote]See what I've posted in response to Slugger! saintlysoul
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7:47pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?
Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you!
I've mentioned this before and I'm growing to believe it more and more: for two seasons running, the form for many matches was "Turn up, go two ahead, relax". Even last season, if we ended up only one goal ahead more than half way through the game, panic would set in. Instead of carrying on withthe tactics that had set us in the lead, the team would be flapping all over. So, warrens76, I'm led to agree with you - some work on just keeping up normal service when we're winning might work wonders. Clive Woodward said the same thing when he managed England to the World Cup - just keep playing as planned whatever the scoreline.
do u know what. u are completely wrong
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.[/p][/quote]So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?[/p][/quote]Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you![/p][/quote]I've mentioned this before and I'm growing to believe it more and more: for two seasons running, the form for many matches was "Turn up, go two ahead, relax". Even last season, if we ended up only one goal ahead more than half way through the game, panic would set in. Instead of carrying on withthe tactics that had set us in the lead, the team would be flapping all over. So, warrens76, I'm led to agree with you - some work on just keeping up normal service when we're winning might work wonders. Clive Woodward said the same thing when he managed England to the World Cup - just keep playing as planned whatever the scoreline.[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong Five Trophies Between Us
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7:48pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

warrens 76 wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend...

I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession



, possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt.


This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff...

...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right...

...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple..

..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES..

..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.
So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years?

Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?
Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you!
Yes I agree with you to an extent Warren but we need a couple of players who play like that naturally for the rest to be influenced.
I think we need a midfield general or playmaker...someone who dictates the pace of the game and whether heads are up or down.
Pirlo, Xavi, even Wiltshire dictate the modern day game, whereas Kean, Souness, Case back in the day.
And you have to invest to get that as we don't currently have it.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Spend to save??? hard to escape the need..HOWEVER to spend or not to spend... I Consider the issues are more a team problem than any individuals... yes even Guly's eff ups are not alone...stop panicking, start playing, up the tempo, rush the opposition, see fear in their eye's not our's...then we have the solution..possession , possession and possession..speed of thought..the ability is within the squad....bring it aaaaaghtt. This is training ground stuff not transfer window stuff... ...forget 20 millions of new talent..try getting ours to think right and play right... ...if you panic you lose...so don't panic quite simple.. ..PLAY AS YOU ARE CAPABLE NOT AS THE PRESSURE DICTATES.. ..sorry about the capitals, I borrowed Red army's computer.[/p][/quote]So having a £200 million transfer budget like for example Man City didn't help them to win the league for the first time in 50 years? Was just down to not panicking and they possessed more?[/p][/quote]Max...work with me here..we have lost again and again from bottling or 5hitting it..the fact we take the lead 'shows' we can do it..pressure we cannot handle..not arguing with you, just telling you![/p][/quote]Yes I agree with you to an extent Warren but we need a couple of players who play like that naturally for the rest to be influenced. I think we need a midfield general or playmaker...someone who dictates the pace of the game and whether heads are up or down. Pirlo, Xavi, even Wiltshire dictate the modern day game, whereas Kean, Souness, Case back in the day. And you have to invest to get that as we don't currently have it. SaintMax
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7:48pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!
These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it .
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are[/p][/quote]Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!![/p][/quote]These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it . slugger
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7:48pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!
If you think these stories are sourced by the DE...then you really are foolish!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are[/p][/quote]Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!![/p][/quote]If you think these stories are sourced by the DE...then you really are foolish! Baddesley Bill
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7:49pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
You know what, you're completely right.
do u know what. u are completely wrong
It's not fair 5T I have lived and enjoyed our last 50 years of mainly top divi status...earned cup wins etc...

Were do YOUR memories come from..unless you are 80+
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]You know what, you're completely right.[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong[/p][/quote]It's not fair 5T I have lived and enjoyed our last 50 years of mainly top divi status...earned cup wins etc... Were do YOUR memories come from..unless you are 80+ warrens 76
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7:50pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!
These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it .
That comment is actually inaccurate.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are[/p][/quote]Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!![/p][/quote]These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it .[/p][/quote]That comment is actually inaccurate. saintlysoul
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7:51pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

The article says 'now sources in Italy' what sources. They're not named or identified. It's rubbish!
The article says 'now sources in Italy' what sources. They're not named or identified. It's rubbish! saintlysoul
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7:51pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet? Baddesley Bill
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7:56pm Tue 8 Jan 13

rocketone says...

To all those posters who compare our transfer dealings with other clubs, Reading have bought a player from Crawley. No other clubs were chasing him.
Saints are after 2 players of international standard.
I think hangeland would be a good 2nd addition along with Astori and then we have 5 CB's fighting for 2 places. Or do a Chelsea and put one of them in midfield. Never thought they would need to do that with the amount of world class midfielders they sign each season! And posters on here question about signing 1 more midfielder, always have 2 players for each position and rotate.
To all those posters who compare our transfer dealings with other clubs, Reading have bought a player from Crawley. No other clubs were chasing him. Saints are after 2 players of international standard. I think hangeland would be a good 2nd addition along with Astori and then we have 5 CB's fighting for 2 places. Or do a Chelsea and put one of them in midfield. Never thought they would need to do that with the amount of world class midfielders they sign each season! And posters on here question about signing 1 more midfielder, always have 2 players for each position and rotate. rocketone
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7:56pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless
You know what, you're completely right.
do u know what. u are completely wrong
It's not fair 5T I have lived and enjoyed our last 50 years of mainly top divi status...earned cup wins etc... Were do YOUR memories come from..unless you are 80+
more than you gramps
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: needed an experienced goalie = we wont bother. needed an experienced PL defender to get up 2 speed asap = we will go 2 italy 2 get one. adkins = clueless[/p][/quote]You know what, you're completely right.[/p][/quote]do u know what. u are completely wrong[/p][/quote]It's not fair 5T I have lived and enjoyed our last 50 years of mainly top divi status...earned cup wins etc... Were do YOUR memories come from..unless you are 80+[/p][/quote]more than you gramps Five Trophies Between Us
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8:03pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are
Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!!
These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it .
sure... the Italian agents of these player work 24-7 to ramp the price/their cut for the player... the parasites, err, sorry I mean't agents have a job to do and want to create as much mirage as possible. In this case Saints do have one ace up their sleeve and that is they will have to insist on an upper limit escape price in the case of relegation.... we can but wait but the info is sound. Fingers crossed....
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I think the reason a lot of people disagree with you saintly is reading through what the story is actually about on this page. If we had no money we would not be linked to anyone much like the likes of Reading and other premiership clubs are[/p][/quote]Why does anyone actually believe what the DE says about Saints the club has no relationship working or otherwise with the paper as NC won't allow it hence why at its highest its speculation and at its lowest just plain inaccurate rubbish!!![/p][/quote]These stories don't come from the Daily Echo (durrr) , they are copied from Italian football websites , inaccurate or not it isn't the Echo sleuths that uncovered it .[/p][/quote]sure... the Italian agents of these player work 24-7 to ramp the price/their cut for the player... the parasites, err, sorry I mean't agents have a job to do and want to create as much mirage as possible. In this case Saints do have one ace up their sleeve and that is they will have to insist on an upper limit escape price in the case of relegation.... we can but wait but the info is sound. Fingers crossed.... MGRA
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8:09pm Tue 8 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

SaintMax wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years
I've heard there could be a big signing at Fratton Park this month. Rumour has it they are after Razor Ruddock.. Have you seen him in his pants on celeb BBrother?
My old man did füuck all in his pants...
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: FTBU any big signings coming in to Pompey this month at all? Have you ever been on the ride at Alton Towers the one that goes straight down think it is called Ovlivion. I have heard they are re-naming it Portsmouth after the last few years[/p][/quote]I've heard there could be a big signing at Fratton Park this month. Rumour has it they are after Razor Ruddock.. Have you seen him in his pants on celeb BBrother?[/p][/quote]My old man did füuck all in his pants... warrens 76
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8:43pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet. Velleity
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9:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!! saintlysoul
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9:16pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ........... slugger
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9:20pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'. SaintMax
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9:21pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
Trust you? Trust me Villa are going to baying for blood Saturday they are 0 2 to Bradford tonight.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]Trust you? Trust me Villa are going to baying for blood Saturday they are 0 2 to Bradford tonight. OSPREYSAINT
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9:24pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
Slugger if only you knew..........
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]Slugger if only you knew.......... saintlysoul
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9:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ? MGRA
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9:25pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
Just wait and see!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]Just wait and see! saintlysoul
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9:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
What's a dike?
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]What's a dike? saintlysoul
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9:26pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

1 2 now 8 minutes to go
1 2 now 8 minutes to go OSPREYSAINT
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9:31pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

saintlysoul wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
Slugger if only you knew..........
My bestest source for football info is hilarious in that he has a job that most people would consider "a rubbish job" , he is a quiet unassuming bloke. Yet, by the very nature of his job he gets to hear very very confidential stuff about a certain club and I just happen to have a common interest outside of football and have the odd beer with this guy.... he has told me many many things "that will happen" and only once has he failed on his crystal ball gazing... this is no "high-power" networker, this guy is joe bloggs but people forget that people know people who know stuff.... the fact he still has a job tends to suggests he share only with those he trusts not to blab and hence I do take seriously your suggestions of being "in the know"
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]Slugger if only you knew..........[/p][/quote]My bestest source for football info is hilarious in that he has a job that most people would consider "a rubbish job" , he is a quiet unassuming bloke. Yet, by the very nature of his job he gets to hear very very confidential stuff about a certain club and I just happen to have a common interest outside of football and have the odd beer with this guy.... he has told me many many things "that will happen" and only once has he failed on his crystal ball gazing... this is no "high-power" networker, this guy is joe bloggs but people forget that people know people who know stuff.... the fact he still has a job tends to suggests he share only with those he trusts not to blab and hence I do take seriously your suggestions of being "in the know" MGRA
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9:31pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

saintlysoul wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
Just wait and see!
I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen.
Just wait and see!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]Just wait and see![/p][/quote]I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen. Just wait and see! SaintMax
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9:32pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 1 Bradford
3 1 Bradford OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ! slugger
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9:35pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly.

Take the bet if you stand by your words.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly. Take the bet if you stand by your words. Baddesley Bill
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9:36pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

SaintMax wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
Just wait and see!
I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen.
Just wait and see!
Talk from whom?
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]Just wait and see![/p][/quote]I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen. Just wait and see![/p][/quote]Talk from whom? saintlysoul
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9:37pm Tue 8 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly.

Take the bet if you stand by your words.
1st February !
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly. Take the bet if you stand by your words.[/p][/quote]1st February ! saintlysoul
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9:40pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 1 ft Villa will have something to prove against us now. Hope their morale is shot.
3 1 ft Villa will have something to prove against us now. Hope their morale is shot. OSPREYSAINT
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9:41pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

Well done Bradford !
Well done Bradford ! slugger
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9:42pm Tue 8 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

Come on County.
Come on County. mack chinnon
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9:50pm Tue 8 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

saintlysoul wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
Just wait and see!
I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen.
Just wait and see!
Talk from whom?
Saintsoul this is one of the websites that collects stories from across the web/press and its the sort of place DE use as the basis for their stories.. I reckon;

http://www.newsnow.c
o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal
l/Premier+League/Sou
thampton
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]Just wait and see![/p][/quote]I think u are full of shlt and that's my opinion, not from any of my sources. There's too much talk of saints being in advanced talks on various high value players for absolutely nothing to happen. Just wait and see![/p][/quote]Talk from whom?[/p][/quote]Saintsoul this is one of the websites that collects stories from across the web/press and its the sort of place DE use as the basis for their stories.. I reckon; http://www.newsnow.c o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal l/Premier+League/Sou thampton SaintMax
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9:54pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly.

Take the bet if you stand by your words.
1st February !
Is that a bet...or just another cop out?

...we need to be specific on this Saintlysoul.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dear...this isn't exactly the murky world of insider dealing Saintlysoul...just a couple of real fans making your remarks on here look very very silly. Take the bet if you stand by your words.[/p][/quote]1st February ![/p][/quote]Is that a bet...or just another cop out? ...we need to be specific on this Saintlysoul. Baddesley Bill
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9:55pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager. MGRA
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9:56pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Velleity says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
"Insider dealing" - getting two mugs (Me and Bill) to give money to charity?

Clearly you have no confidence whatsoever in your claim. Wrap it up how you want but that's it.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]"Insider dealing" - getting two mugs (Me and Bill) to give money to charity? Clearly you have no confidence whatsoever in your claim. Wrap it up how you want but that's it. Velleity
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10:04pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Newcastle away game has been moved to Sunday 24th February a 1:30 pm kick off, that rules that one out for me.
Newcastle away game has been moved to Sunday 24th February a 1:30 pm kick off, that rules that one out for me. OSPREYSAINT
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10:05pm Tue 8 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
The closest i ever came was when i fitted Jason Dodds' new boiler (when Glenn Hoddle was in charge) , i asked how come results had picked up latley ...... he said "it's the Gaffer , he's really into fitness" ........ true that .
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.[/p][/quote]The closest i ever came was when i fitted Jason Dodds' new boiler (when Glenn Hoddle was in charge) , i asked how come results had picked up latley ...... he said "it's the Gaffer , he's really into fitness" ........ true that . slugger
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10:08pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.[/p][/quote]The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you. OSPREYSAINT
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10:08pm Tue 8 Jan 13

F Fan says...

MGRA wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...
Sexist prat
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.[/p][/quote]just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...[/p][/quote]Sexist prat F Fan
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10:10pm Tue 8 Jan 13

hates the skates says...

St Retford wrote:
hates the skates wrote:
we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space...............


.................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!!
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what happened with Gaston, isn't it? We were so close to signing him but Nicola ruined everything...
go back to the book you were reading all last summer!! funny how people remember what they want, ill jolt your MEMORY shall i? alexander butner? jake butland? michu? scott5 dans? matty phillips? need me to go on???
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hates the skates[/bold] wrote: we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight on the 31-1 were panic buy and end up with worse players than we have already got a shambolic side for the next 10 games and our fellow relegation strugglers will have the edge over us because they have done their buisness early, i was hoping N C would of learned this in the summer, it appears not. its ok when we were signing players from bristol rovers, mk dons, exeter etc. he could bully them into signing on his terms. its a different proposition when you are dealing with top flight sides who wont be bullied, thats why we wont get any of these players and on 31st watch this space............... .................. i hope i eat my words cause i would love to have these here!!!!!![/p][/quote]Yeah, that's EXACTLY what happened with Gaston, isn't it? We were so close to signing him but Nicola ruined everything...[/p][/quote]go back to the book you were reading all last summer!! funny how people remember what they want, ill jolt your MEMORY shall i? alexander butner? jake butland? michu? scott5 dans? matty phillips? need me to go on??? hates the skates
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10:12pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
"Insider dealing" - getting two mugs (Me and Bill) to give money to charity?

Clearly you have no confidence whatsoever in your claim. Wrap it up how you want but that's it.
"two mugs?" A pair of "pint pots" more like.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]"Insider dealing" - getting two mugs (Me and Bill) to give money to charity? Clearly you have no confidence whatsoever in your claim. Wrap it up how you want but that's it.[/p][/quote]"two mugs?" A pair of "pint pots" more like. OSPREYSAINT
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10:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.
Quiet witty from you Osprey.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.[/p][/quote]The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.[/p][/quote]Quiet witty from you Osprey. mack chinnon
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10:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything.
He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.
What's a dike?
Crumbs you must have led a sheltered life, just Google it if you don't know and it is nothing to do with a well placed finger.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]IMO you are lining yourself up to look a dikc if saints do spend big and uve claimed on here u have sources who say we won't spend anything. He should throw in an 'IMO', or 'I reckon'.[/p][/quote]What's a dike?[/p][/quote]Crumbs you must have led a sheltered life, just Google it if you don't know and it is nothing to do with a well placed finger. OSPREYSAINT
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10:15pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

F Fan wrote:
MGRA wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....”

That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.
just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...
Sexist prat
yes he is isn't he !! you are not the first to accuse him of that !!
[quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: family of three, an arsenal academy kid and his mum and dad from Ringwood. The club told them when they bought the tickets they could sit in the family enclosure, but when Arsenal equalised and he celebrated, he was threatened by Saints "fans" in the family enclosure and the brave Stewards ejected the three of them....” That's society today unfortunately very sad though that this would happen in the family enclosure.[/p][/quote]just cowardly stewarding... I have been to about 100 games over the years in the family enclosure and there has often been kids and their parents in their supporting the other team. Thats the whole point of a "Family" enclosure for most clubs.... maybe along with the bimbo-programme sellers came a new generation of clueless stewards...[/p][/quote]Sexist prat[/p][/quote]yes he is isn't he !! you are not the first to accuse him of that !! MGRA
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10:16pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

mack chinnon wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.
Quiet witty from you Osprey.
Quiet? Well, I don't like to SHOUT.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.[/p][/quote]The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.[/p][/quote]Quiet witty from you Osprey.[/p][/quote]Quiet? Well, I don't like to SHOUT. OSPREYSAINT
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10:20pm Tue 8 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy!
I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!)
We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?
Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?
I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January.

Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.
I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!!
LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........
you would have £4 ?
4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack !
you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.
The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.
Quiet witty from you Osprey.
Quiet? Well, I don't like to SHOUT.
no the moral is to not envy those who don't spend their lives on a computer but who actually mix in reality with real people....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Slugger I know you're rude but there's no need to be offensive. What say we re-visit this topic on the 1st February after there has been no big signings in January and you may then like to re-consider your position. Not for the first time you become offensive and objectionable when you hear something you don't like. Probably you've inhaled too much gas dear boy![/p][/quote]I'll take a £50 charitable bet on that with you Saintlysoul (I'm doing well on such bets...just ask ghk!) We sign a player in January...you donate £50 to the Saints foundation....and prove it...deal?[/p][/quote]Helloooooooo....I assume you missed my offer...you want to take the bet?[/p][/quote]I'll happily double up on the bet; I'm even happy to specify that we'll spend in excess of £4M before the end of January. Want to take it on? If you believe your sources telling you there's no money, saintlysoul, you'd be foolish not to take the bet.[/p][/quote]I can't bet on this as it would be tantamount to 'insider dealing' trust me there is no money!!!![/p][/quote]LOL ..... "insider dealing" .... yeah , right .... if i had a pound for every poster that was "in the know" ...........[/p][/quote]you would have £4 ?[/p][/quote]4 grand more like ....... i admit to doing myself to see what reaction i get ....... nobody on here knows jack ![/p][/quote]you will probably think this is total **** then but here goes.... about 12ish years ago I was fulfilling a contract at the house of the then portsmouth F.C. manager. It was a saturday morning, about 11:00am. The meeting concluded and the guy told me something "in confidence" that was going to happen at the club by the end of the day. As I left the house, there was an old guy hosing down a 4x4 and he whispered to me "no chance, he's got that totally wrong, it will get called off before nighfall"..... The guy who was cleaning the car as it turned out knew more than the manager of the football club.... for reasons that I understood a few years later by accident but thats another story, the point being, the guy in the know that time knew more than the first team manager.[/p][/quote]The moral of this story is not to believe everthing you hear, especially if they are as gullible as you.[/p][/quote]Quiet witty from you Osprey.[/p][/quote]Quiet? Well, I don't like to SHOUT.[/p][/quote]no the moral is to not envy those who don't spend their lives on a computer but who actually mix in reality with real people.... MGRA
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10:20pm Tue 8 Jan 13

st bevois says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
3 1 ft Villa will have something to prove against us now. Hope their morale is shot.
Let's get up there and get at 'em! And....put one big massive nail in their Prem coffin!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 3 1 ft Villa will have something to prove against us now. Hope their morale is shot.[/p][/quote]Let's get up there and get at 'em! And....put one big massive nail in their Prem coffin!! st bevois
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10:22pm Tue 8 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

hates the skates wrote:
St Retford wrote:
hates the skates wrote:
we aint going to get any of these players because N C is to arogant when it comes to these transfer dealings its all his way or no way, which is why this will drag on all month and then at 10-midnight