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Redknapp: No-one could have done a better job than Nigel (From Daily Echo)
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Redknapp: No-one could have done a better job than Nigel
1:57pm Sunday 20th January 2013 in Saints News
HARRY REDKNAPP
Harry Redknapp admits he was “stunned” by the decision to sack Nigel Adkins as Saints boss.
Like many fans, the QPR boss is still shocked the news, which says it all coming from a football man of his experience.
“Even now, having had time to digest the news, it’s still quite shocking,” says the former Saints boss. “The most worrying aspect of all is that yet another English manager has bitten the dust.
“I can’t say the new man won’t be a success. I wish him well. But this is a bitter blow for English managers and English football.
“Yes there are a few British managers – Alex Ferguson, David Moyes, Paul Lambert. But how many English? Six out of 20 clubs – it was seven until Friday. I have never met Nigel Adkins but I liked what I saw of him “Whenever I watched him on TV I thought he came across as honest, bubbly and positive. He’s an aspiring young coach who had come up the hard way and earned his place in the Premier League.
“I don’t know what Southampton want from their manager, particularly after the club has just come up from the Championship and bridged the biggest gulf in world football.
“He had turned things around with just two defeats in their last 12 Premier League games. So much so that I had begun to view Southampton as being clear of the relegation battle my team is facing.
“There’s not a manager around who could have done a better job than him. It will be interesting to watch the reaction from the crowd at Southampton tomorrow night when they play Everton.
“The other sad thing is that should Mauricio Pochettino win a couple of matches then within a month the fans will probably be chanting his name. It’s a fickle old game”
Comments(147)
Dorssaints
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2:08pm Sun 20 Jan 13
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Do we have any idea who the new coaches are?
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It would be great to know who they were, their experience etc.....
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Not that interested in Harry's view of my club he made his views on my club quite well known when he left!
likewatchingbrazil
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2:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
coyr
AmsterdamSaint
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2:16pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76
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2:17pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Ms Mahoney
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2:21pm Sun 20 Jan 13
oldsaintsfan
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2:22pm Sun 20 Jan 13
likewatchingbrazil
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2:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13
coyr”
loosehead
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2:25pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Dubai Loyal SFC
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2:27pm Sun 20 Jan 13
milton road
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2:29pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
magnette
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2:34pm Sun 20 Jan 13
I was gonna come up with some clever augments to persuade the doubters that what NC has done is right - but Harry beat me to it!!!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha!
Crackin' Echo!
saint Compo
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2:38pm Sun 20 Jan 13
COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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2:51pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Dorssaints wrote:If it is any help, the new Goalkeeper Coach / Assistant Manager is Tony Jimenez. See picture 32 in the OS Training Gallery.
just looked at the gallery of pictures from 1st training session.
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Do we have any idea who the new coaches are?
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It would be great to know who they were, their experience etc.....
.
Not that interested in Harry's view of my club he made his views on my club quite well known when he left!
OSPREYSAINT
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2:52pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76
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2:57pm Sun 20 Jan 13
pmuff monday..SFC tuesday...back to pmuff few mondays later..Skate.
joenice1
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3:01pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Get behind the team COYS
OSPREYSAINT
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3:02pm Sun 20 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:The other guy in the pictures is Fran Alonso, the qualified coach who came along with Gaston as interpreter. We do have a decent Training staff in place.
Dorssaints wrote:If it is any help, the new Goalkeeper Coach / Assistant Manager is Tony Jimenez. See picture 32 in the OS Training Gallery.
just looked at the gallery of pictures from 1st training session.
.
Do we have any idea who the new coaches are?
.
It would be great to know who they were, their experience etc.....
.
Not that interested in Harry's view of my club he made his views on my club quite well known when he left!
Outside of the Box
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3:05pm Sun 20 Jan 13
I know Cortese hates the Echo,,,but printing what this tw@ts has to say takes the biscuit,,,,he's the manager of QPR who are a relegation rival of SouthamptonFC,,,sort it out,,,,there are plenty of other managers you could talk,,,not this revengeful prune faced Skate barstweard.
Outside of the Box
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3:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Better than waving a white hankie,,,even if he is Skate barsteward
I find it amusing that Twitchie is waving the patriotic flag!
warrens 76
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3:12pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Outside of the Box wrote:Echo...do not pretend to be the face of the fans or Southampton FC when you are on a wind up mission..
Is the Echo on mission to wind us fans up even more,,,,first we get Mike (chicken) Callaghan,,,,and now Harry the Twitch Redknapp spouting his bile.
I know Cortese hates the Echo,,,but printing what this tw@ts has to say takes the biscuit,,,,he's the manager of QPR who are a relegation rival of SouthamptonFC,,,sort it out,,,,there are plenty of other managers you could talk,,,not this revengeful prune faced Skate barstweard.
Someone have a word with these stirring reporters..I am miles away.
Mush On The Beach
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3:13pm Sun 20 Jan 13
I poked fun at Chelski last week calling it Toxic Bridge. I truly hope the same thing doesn’t happen to St Marys.
Personally, I don’t agree with the decision, particularly the timing of it. Time will tell if Cortese got it right. I’ve listened to a few BBC podcasts and it doesn’t make good listening hearing pundits saying they now hope we go down.
A couple of random thoughts that formulated in my head since the news broke and reading your posts:
Newcastle went on an upward curve after replacing the well liked Chris Hughton with Alan Pardew.
Wolves were naive to sack Mick McCarthy while not already having anyone else lined up.
Fabio Capello’s lack of fluency in English compromised his ability to communicate clearly with the England squad and get the best out of them.
Golden boy Bankers taking high risk strategies do not always result in happy endings, just ask the owners of the deceased Barings Bank what they now think of their once golden boy Nick Leeson.
I hope the game goes ahead tomorrow and another 3 points to our beloved Saints.
Only 33 degrees Celsius here in Perth today, it was a little fresh in the pool but I survived :)
likewatchingbrazil
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3:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
coyr
J7junctionseven
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3:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
Dorssaints
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3:16pm Sun 20 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Is this the Tony Jimenez that was described along with Wise at Newcastle as being the 'cockney mafia'?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:The other guy in the pictures is Fran Alonso, the qualified coach who came along with Gaston as interpreter. We do have a decent Training staff in place.
Dorssaints wrote:If it is any help, the new Goalkeeper Coach / Assistant Manager is Tony Jimenez. See picture 32 in the OS Training Gallery.
just looked at the gallery of pictures from 1st training session.
.
Do we have any idea who the new coaches are?
.
It would be great to know who they were, their experience etc.....
.
Not that interested in Harry's view of my club he made his views on my club quite well known when he left!
franiow
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3:19pm Sun 20 Jan 13
We may learn to love Poch, but Nigel will never be forgotten.
Salar
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3:19pm Sun 20 Jan 13
COYR
rocketone
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3:39pm Sun 20 Jan 13
It is obvious that Cortese had this planned for some time but that would date the conspiracy back to the summer.
I said before that I thought Nigel knew of the possibility but may have thought he had ridden it out.
There does need to be a statement of some kind from the club. Otherwise we end up with the Pardew thing again, players wives etc.
Confucious
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3:44pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Salar wrote:Echo are running a story tomorrow featuring condemnation of Cortese (and very depressing Saints forecasts) from a dozen or more local dogs and a budgie and a white mouse. They ran out of people this morning.
Why wasn't the dog interviewed? Could be just as informative?
COYR
All the dogs said the future looks "ruff"; the mice all had squeaky bottoms and, shown a photo of the new man, the budgie said "Who's a pretty boy then?" before pecking the nose on the photo aggressively (though I'm informed the Echo had stuck some millet seed to it).
Oh I'm so depressed and hard done by and feel so victimized. This is even worse than Diana's death and I wish my parents had never met.
I was going to kill myself with a huge aspirin overdose, but after three I felt quite a lot better.
There must be a village idiot somewhere in the area who is happy and prepared to give the Echo an quote to cheer us all up a bit.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:Lovin' it Confucious just keep it coming.
Salar wrote:Echo are running a story tomorrow featuring condemnation of Cortese (and very depressing Saints forecasts) from a dozen or more local dogs and a budgie and a white mouse. They ran out of people this morning.
Why wasn't the dog interviewed? Could be just as informative?
COYR
All the dogs said the future looks "ruff"; the mice all had squeaky bottoms and, shown a photo of the new man, the budgie said "Who's a pretty boy then?" before pecking the nose on the photo aggressively (though I'm informed the Echo had stuck some millet seed to it).
Oh I'm so depressed and hard done by and feel so victimized. This is even worse than Diana's death and I wish my parents had never met.
I was going to kill myself with a huge aspirin overdose, but after three I felt quite a lot better.
There must be a village idiot somewhere in the area who is happy and prepared to give the Echo an quote to cheer us all up a bit.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:51pm Sun 20 Jan 13
rocketone wrote:Well we never got one then and I don't expect one now.
Didn't realise Jiminez was still around. Makes it all the more mysterious.
It is obvious that Cortese had this planned for some time but that would date the conspiracy back to the summer.
I said before that I thought Nigel knew of the possibility but may have thought he had ridden it out.
There does need to be a statement of some kind from the club. Otherwise we end up with the Pardew thing again, players wives etc.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:52pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Salar wrote:Because he is barking, and so is his dog.
Why wasn't the dog interviewed? Could be just as informative?
COYR
warrens 76
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3:57pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
Thornhill Saint
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4:00pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:I think he was having a go at saggy face, not Cortese. He makes some very good points.
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
slugger
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4:09pm Sun 20 Jan 13
sfcned
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4:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven
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4:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:The fact that I mentioned the photo sort of gave away who I was talking about.......to most people that is FFS...lol
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
J7junctionseven
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4:22pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:Oh and when did you meet my wife?...:o)
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
new forest saint
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4:22pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven
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4:31pm Sun 20 Jan 13
oll on Monday night and a Saints win...you know, something positive to report.
warrens 76
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4:33pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:fair play!!
warrens 76 wrote:Oh and when did you meet my wife?...:o)
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
warrens 76
says...
4:47pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:ffs indeed... however I am short sited which is why I am still married!
warrens 76 wrote:The fact that I mentioned the photo sort of gave away who I was talking about.......to most people that is FFS...lol
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
warrens 76
says...
4:48pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:and sighted!!
J7junctionseven wrote:ffs indeed... however I am short sited which is why I am still married!
warrens 76 wrote:The fact that I mentioned the photo sort of gave away who I was talking about.......to most people that is FFS...lol
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
Invidia
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4:50pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Redknapp: No-one could have done a better job than Nigel except me that is"
Baddesley Bill
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4:54pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:Warrens met her last Tuesday...I met her Wednesday, Mack met her last time he was ashore....Slugger's popping round to meet her tomorrow to sort out the pipes. You work too much J7!
warrens 76 wrote:Oh and when did you meet my wife?...:o)
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
(only joking!) :O)
Carinthian Saint
says...
5:03pm Sun 20 Jan 13
COME ON YOU REEEEEEEEDS!
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY!
warrens 76
says...
5:05pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Skate
Confucious
says...
5:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
All over Southampton
They call him Pochettino
Poche, Poche-ttino
Poche, Poche-tinno
All over Southampton
They call him Poche-ttino
Poche, Poche-ttino
In sunny St Marys!
warrens 76
says...
5:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Now I know why she was so keen to see me on sunday..kiss XX j7
J7junctionseven wrote:Warrens met her last Tuesday...I met her Wednesday, Mack met her last time he was ashore....Slugger's popping round to meet her tomorrow to sort out the pipes. You work too much J7!
warrens 76 wrote:Oh and when did you meet my wife?...:o)
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
(only joking!) :O)
doreron
says...
5:16pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger
says...
5:18pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:I only saw her once ...... or was it twice ? lol ;o)
Baddesley Bill wrote:Now I know why she was so keen to see me on sunday..kiss XX j7
J7junctionseven wrote:Warrens met her last Tuesday...I met her Wednesday, Mack met her last time he was ashore....Slugger's popping round to meet her tomorrow to sort out the pipes. You work too much J7!
warrens 76 wrote:Oh and when did you meet my wife?...:o)
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
(only joking!) :O)
mack chinnon
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5:22pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:I dont know how true this is but I heard that when "The Crooked One" left St Marys he received a phone call saying Milan wants you Arry.
" it's a fickle old game" does he not even grasp the irony of what he said..
pmuff monday..SFC tuesday...back to pmuff few mondays later..Skate.
Apparently he replied "Inter or A.C."
oldsaintsfan
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5:26pm Sun 20 Jan 13
rocketone wrote:I would imagine the club will get NA to sign a compromise agreement in return for his negotiated pay-off. Normally under these agreements both sides are effectively gagged - don't expect too much in the way of enlightenment with regard to what went on etc. In the world NC comes from believe me employee "life" expectancy can be very short. Clearly NC's expectations’ for this season were significantly higher than survival in the PL. If this was/is realistic given the limited experience in the squad is another matter even given the summer spending. From the customers (supporters) viewpoint probably best now to move on - after all we pay to watch football so lets hope the 11 that start tomorrow are up for it (with all due respect to NA it should be remembered to most players these days, managers come and go and hopefully they will be trying to impress the new guy).
Didn't realise Jiminez was still around. Makes it all the more mysterious.
It is obvious that Cortese had this planned for some time but that would date the conspiracy back to the summer.
I said before that I thought Nigel knew of the possibility but may have thought he had ridden it out.
There does need to be a statement of some kind from the club. Otherwise we end up with the Pardew thing again, players wives etc.
abbiscuits
says...
5:38pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven
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5:42pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76
says...
5:45pm Sun 20 Jan 13
abbiscuits wrote:Who?
we are meant to be signing albert adomah (BCity) winger as long as his injury eases in the transfer window!
is he any good'
we will win tomorrow though..
Linesman
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6:00pm Sun 20 Jan 13
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
slugger
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6:01pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:No money in it mush , ask Wattsy !
No wonder she's always telling me she's tired. I thought it was all that flying around with her brolly and looking after the kids FFS!!... Right that's it, I'm giving up sweeping chimneys and going to become a plumber!...:o)
bigfella777
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6:03pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76
says...
6:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
Dorssaints
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6:09pm Sun 20 Jan 13
.
Any one sure who he is, is it on any web page anywhere?
hates the skates
says...
6:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
doreron wrote:he did really well at his previous club at first, how ever theyve got less money than the bums up the road, every transfer window he had to constantly sale all his best players develop the kids sale them as well. with all this he finished 10, 8, 12, in la liga and the begining of this season to november he gave 20 debuts, not the greatest recipe for success. im quite excited by him cant pronounce his name let alone spell it, i think hell do really really well. just another thought does yoshida speak english? rameriz? mayuka? coz nigel got his instructions through to them so why cant a spanish talking guy get his views through? what was c u n t face saying? i got bored after the 1st letter, i would rather suddam hussein came for dinner than read any thing that **** got to say
Absolutely ridiculous. I didn't think Adkins was doing a very good job of late, but didn't think he deserved the sack and hoped Saints would improve with more wins during the season. I can't understand why a complete stranger, who can't speak a word of English was appointed. It also looks as if he didn't do too well at his previous club either.
Baddesley Bill
says...
6:20pm Sun 20 Jan 13
That should be doozer! :O)
Baddesley Bill
says...
6:22pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Doh... *that should be a doozer!
I'm waiting for the next thread...."Rupe
rt Lowe says...."
That should be doozer! :O)
Thornhill Saint
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6:25pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Linesman wrote:It is not that we don't appreciate what he did as a player. It is what he has got up to and said since he finished playing,
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
If he is going to slag off others publicly, people are entitled to voice their opinion and he should expect it.
I don't think Le Tiss gives a le Toss what others think any more than Cortese does. They are both similar in that respect.
Le Tiss is not beyond reproach, bit he is still a legend.
mack chinnon
says...
6:27pm Sun 20 Jan 13
St Retford
says...
6:29pm Sun 20 Jan 13
hates the skates
says...
6:32pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Thornhill Saint wrote:he just got the hump coz NC wouldnt give him a free season ticket. dont forget it was le tiss consortium that had the 30 day exclusive period to buy the club but really wasted time that nearly made us extinct, knob!!
Linesman wrote:It is not that we don't appreciate what he did as a player. It is what he has got up to and said since he finished playing,
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
If he is going to slag off others publicly, people are entitled to voice their opinion and he should expect it.
I don't think Le Tiss gives a le Toss what others think any more than Cortese does. They are both similar in that respect.
Le Tiss is not beyond reproach, bit he is still a legend.
One Heart....One Vision
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6:38pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger
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6:59pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Thornhill Saint wrote:Linesman is a skate and all his posts should be treated accordingly ....... imo ......... COYR !!!!!
Linesman wrote:It is not that we don't appreciate what he did as a player. It is what he has got up to and said since he finished playing,
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
If he is going to slag off others publicly, people are entitled to voice their opinion and he should expect it.
I don't think Le Tiss gives a le Toss what others think any more than Cortese does. They are both similar in that respect.
Le Tiss is not beyond reproach, bit he is still a legend.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:10pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Dorssaints wrote:http://en.wikipedia.
Tony Jimenez (quoted as coach) cannot be ex Newcastle guy as he bought sharehold of Charlton in July 2012.
.
Any one sure who he is, is it on any web page anywhere?
org/wiki/Antonio_Jim
%C3%A9nez_Sistachs
This is he
Earl of Regents
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7:14pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:WHO!
abbiscuits wrote:Who?
we are meant to be signing albert adomah (BCity) winger as long as his injury eases in the transfer window!
is he any good'
we will win tomorrow though..
You never watched the Saints last season then?, He was Bristol Citys outstanding player against us in both home and away games. We lot both... But we have moved on now. COYR.
slugger
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7:29pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Earl of Regents wrote:But where are Bristol City ? ....... I'm sure our sights are set a tad higher now COYR !!
warrens 76 wrote:WHO!
abbiscuits wrote:Who?
we are meant to be signing albert adomah (BCity) winger as long as his injury eases in the transfer window!
is he any good'
we will win tomorrow though..
You never watched the Saints last season then?, He was Bristol Citys outstanding player against us in both home and away games. We lot both... But we have moved on now. COYR.
MGRA
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7:44pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:no true fan would criticise Le Tiss for basically having a go at a coward....You can love the money that NC manipulates but that does not make someone a "true" supporter. Matt is a "real" saints fan. And mindless happy-clappies can slag him off all they want, it just shows what has happened to the football club. Still the NC-homo-erotic-fan club can follow their ambitions and dream about the champions league funded by sky money.... its just a shame it may be in a half empty stadium, but then again it appears this is not a problem for the small niche club of supporters. After all they say that the "old" saints should be dead and buried and this glorious "new" saints with its bimbo programme sellers, stupid car park charges and Chairman who is too scared to face a press conference is the way forward..... fair play... lets hope the football is good to watch in the meantime... ;-)
Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
warrens 76
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7:46pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Earl of Regents wrote:I only went to five games last season...each one was a 2000 mile round trip though..
warrens 76 wrote:WHO!
abbiscuits wrote:Who?
we are meant to be signing albert adomah (BCity) winger as long as his injury eases in the transfer window!
is he any good'
we will win tomorrow though..
You never watched the Saints last season then?, He was Bristol Citys outstanding player against us in both home and away games. We lot both... But we have moved on now. COYR.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:55pm Sun 20 Jan 13
MGRA wrote:I disagree with you on most of this, and coward is a poor comment. Sorry you have him wrong, but it is your right to have that opinion.
warrens 76 wrote:no true fan would criticise Le Tiss for basically having a go at a coward....You can love the money that NC manipulates but that does not make someone a "true" supporter. Matt is a "real" saints fan. And mindless happy-clappies can slag him off all they want, it just shows what has happened to the football club. Still the NC-homo-erotic-fan club can follow their ambitions and dream about the champions league funded by sky money.... its just a shame it may be in a half empty stadium, but then again it appears this is not a problem for the small niche club of supporters. After all they say that the "old" saints should be dead and buried and this glorious "new" saints with its bimbo programme sellers, stupid car park charges and Chairman who is too scared to face a press conference is the way forward..... fair play... lets hope the football is good to watch in the meantime... ;-)
Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
malcher
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7:55pm Sun 20 Jan 13
COYR
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:55pm Sun 20 Jan 13
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
OSPREYSAINT
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7:55pm Sun 20 Jan 13
One Heart....One Vision wrote:As long as it sells papers.
How long will the echo stir the dirt with so many non-stories.
Baddesley Bill
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8:20pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I agree that Cortese needs to adopt a more "open door" policy.
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
But the fact remains that our team will acheive more on the pitch with the full backing of the fans.
So you broke 2lbs then... nice one!
Confucious
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8:33pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:I hear they've got a scoop from the local Samaritans' branch. All the Samaritans there are Saints fans and they've been telling a flood of callers to go ahead and top themselves - as they intend to do as soon as their shift is over tonight.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Doh... *that should be a doozer!
I'm waiting for the next thread...."Rupe
rt Lowe says...."
That should be doozer! :O)
Fortunately Bournemouth Samaritans are putting an extra shift on so they can take calls from the depressed Southampton Samaritans.
The Echo also has a dramatic story about a bloke who jumped off the Itchen Bridge and they are quoting him saying: "Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr
gh!"
OSPREYSAINT
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8:35pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:.. I love the near pun, mullet over? I thought you were allergic to anything fishy? You must be hardy to be fishing in this weather, well done on you catch, nice one.
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
OSPREYSAINT
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8:38pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:A bit sad mate, they still haven't found the last one that jumped from the Itchen Bridge, may be a bit sensitive at the moment.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I hear they've got a scoop from the local Samaritans' branch. All the Samaritans there are Saints fans and they've been telling a flood of callers to go ahead and top themselves - as they intend to do as soon as their shift is over tonight.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Doh... *that should be a doozer!
I'm waiting for the next thread...."Rupe
rt Lowe says...."
That should be doozer! :O)
Fortunately Bournemouth Samaritans are putting an extra shift on so they can take calls from the depressed Southampton Samaritans.
The Echo also has a dramatic story about a bloke who jumped off the Itchen Bridge and they are quoting him saying: "Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr
gh!"
buster gutt
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8:38pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Give the man a chance we will know only at the end of the season whether this a wise decision.We know it wasn't a fair one but that's football ,we will always remember Nigel as one of the greatest managers we have ever had all the best
Confucious
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8:45pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:My wife likes secrecy and she hates me for being too nosy - at least that's what she keeps writing in her diary.
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
My mate was challenged yesterday for fishing in a private lake. He said the notice was clearly headed "PRIVATE" so he didn't read it. He then told the warden that he wasn't fishing but just teaching his pet worm to swim.
Confucious
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8:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Point taken - didn't know that.
Confucious wrote:A bit sad mate, they still haven't found the last one that jumped from the Itchen Bridge, may be a bit sensitive at the moment.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I hear they've got a scoop from the local Samaritans' branch. All the Samaritans there are Saints fans and they've been telling a flood of callers to go ahead and top themselves - as they intend to do as soon as their shift is over tonight.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Doh... *that should be a doozer!
I'm waiting for the next thread...."Rupe
rt Lowe says...."
That should be doozer! :O)
Fortunately Bournemouth Samaritans are putting an extra shift on so they can take calls from the depressed Southampton Samaritans.
The Echo also has a dramatic story about a bloke who jumped off the Itchen Bridge and they are quoting him saying: "Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr
gh!"
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:08pm Sun 20 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:Warrens I have to disagree with you on this one - I know you misunderstood J7's post, but that's not my point.
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
You say no Cortese equals no club, by which I assume you mean no owners. That's equating SFC to being an emotional decision. I have no problem with that. Other times you might post saying Cortese's decisions are purely hardnosed business ones. I have no problem with that either. But we can't mix and match. If this is a hard nosed business so be it - which means shareholders replace CEO's if they don't deliver just like CEO's replace managers if they don't deliver.
Level playing field is my point. Either it's pure business like Glazers and Manure or it's emoitional like Dave Whelan and Wigan.
Not aimed at you btw but the type of post that many make that mix the two up.
Dorssaints
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9:21pm Sun 20 Jan 13
.
Booing the Board, or he new manager, you might as well kiss goodbye to the points now!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:30pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:I did indeed! Chub next.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I agree that Cortese needs to adopt a more "open door" policy.
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
But the fact remains that our team will acheive more on the pitch with the full backing of the fans.
So you broke 2lbs then... nice one!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
9:34pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Dorssaints wrote:That.
I am all for cheering Adkins name, I thought it great when Strachan was welcomed a while ago.
.
Booing the Board, or he new manager, you might as well kiss goodbye to the points now!
slugger
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9:36pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
9:37pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Find and cut n paste a single comment that says differently then!
I do wonder who the Echo will quote next ......... Boris Johnson anyone ? ;o)
slugger
says...
9:39pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:To what ?
slugger wrote:Find and cut n paste a single comment that says differently then!
I do wonder who the Echo will quote next ......... Boris Johnson anyone ? ;o)
J7junctionseven
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9:44pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger
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9:46pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:Now that would be the most commented on article ever ! ..... c'mon echo , make it happen .
My money's on John Westwood, the next most annoying man to Saints fans after the baggy faced fraud.
Baddesley Bill
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9:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13
...does anyone have a clean NON-WHITE hankerchief I can borrow for tomorrow night please? ;O)
saintshorse101
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9:51pm Sun 20 Jan 13
MGRA wrote:so if i say i think matt is wrong i am a `happyclapper` if, prior to last week, i wanted NA to stay i am a happyclapper`, if i dont like what was done to NA but will support the new manager i am a `happyclapper`? so mgra what is it you want? it seems to me that you didnt want ML to take over the saints, you didnt want ML to install NC as chairman, you dont want NC to have ambition for the saints, you would rather fans stayed away than saints trying to win leagues and trophies?
warrens 76 wrote:no true fan would criticise Le Tiss for basically having a go at a coward....You can love the money that NC manipulates but that does not make someone a "true" supporter. Matt is a "real" saints fan. And mindless happy-clappies can slag him off all they want, it just shows what has happened to the football club. Still the NC-homo-erotic-fan club can follow their ambitions and dream about the champions league funded by sky money.... its just a shame it may be in a half empty stadium, but then again it appears this is not a problem for the small niche club of supporters. After all they say that the "old" saints should be dead and buried and this glorious "new" saints with its bimbo programme sellers, stupid car park charges and Chairman who is too scared to face a press conference is the way forward..... fair play... lets hope the football is good to watch in the meantime... ;-)Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..milton road wrote: Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us? Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle. Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole. We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good. Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has. Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down. A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
i dont like what NC did to NA and i dont like the way he did it! and i hope NA goes on to succeed elsewhere. i hope that NC learns from the fans reaction to this that he might need to be a bit more open and explain his decisions. i hope the fasns get behind MP and dont boo him. most of all i hope i am able to support my team for years to come, if thats in L1 or the champions league. you may not like NC or his ways but dont start calling other fans `happyclappers` just because they dont agree with you, it makes you look very narrow minded and bitter.
J7junctionseven
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9:52pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Don't see why they don't, they seem to be getting quotes from any other person they know will get the fans wound up and at the same time take a snipe at NC.
J7junctionseven wrote:Now that would be the most commented on article ever ! ..... c'mon echo , make it happen .
My money's on John Westwood, the next most annoying man to Saints fans after the baggy faced fraud.
slugger
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9:53pm Sun 20 Jan 13
saintshorse101 wrote:Like
MGRA wrote:so if i say i think matt is wrong i am a `happyclapper` if, prior to last week, i wanted NA to stay i am a happyclapper`, if i dont like what was done to NA but will support the new manager i am a `happyclapper`? so mgra what is it you want? it seems to me that you didnt want ML to take over the saints, you didnt want ML to install NC as chairman, you dont want NC to have ambition for the saints, you would rather fans stayed away than saints trying to win leagues and trophies?
warrens 76 wrote:no true fan would criticise Le Tiss for basically having a go at a coward....You can love the money that NC manipulates but that does not make someone a "true" supporter. Matt is a "real" saints fan. And mindless happy-clappies can slag him off all they want, it just shows what has happened to the football club. Still the NC-homo-erotic-fan club can follow their ambitions and dream about the champions league funded by sky money.... its just a shame it may be in a half empty stadium, but then again it appears this is not a problem for the small niche club of supporters. After all they say that the "old" saints should be dead and buried and this glorious "new" saints with its bimbo programme sellers, stupid car park charges and Chairman who is too scared to face a press conference is the way forward..... fair play... lets hope the football is good to watch in the meantime... ;-)Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..milton road wrote: Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us? Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle. Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole. We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good. Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has. Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down. A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
i dont like what NC did to NA and i dont like the way he did it! and i hope NA goes on to succeed elsewhere. i hope that NC learns from the fans reaction to this that he might need to be a bit more open and explain his decisions. i hope the fasns get behind MP and dont boo him. most of all i hope i am able to support my team for years to come, if thats in L1 or the champions league. you may not like NC or his ways but dont start calling other fans `happyclappers` just because they dont agree with you, it makes you look very narrow minded and bitter.
J7junctionseven
says...
10:01pm Sun 20 Jan 13
saintshorse101 wrote:BOOOOOM!!! SPOT ON! COYR!
MGRA wrote:so if i say i think matt is wrong i am a `happyclapper` if, prior to last week, i wanted NA to stay i am a happyclapper`, if i dont like what was done to NA but will support the new manager i am a `happyclapper`? so mgra what is it you want? it seems to me that you didnt want ML to take over the saints, you didnt want ML to install NC as chairman, you dont want NC to have ambition for the saints, you would rather fans stayed away than saints trying to win leagues and trophies?
warrens 76 wrote:no true fan would criticise Le Tiss for basically having a go at a coward....You can love the money that NC manipulates but that does not make someone a "true" supporter. Matt is a "real" saints fan. And mindless happy-clappies can slag him off all they want, it just shows what has happened to the football club. Still the NC-homo-erotic-fan club can follow their ambitions and dream about the champions league funded by sky money.... its just a shame it may be in a half empty stadium, but then again it appears this is not a problem for the small niche club of supporters. After all they say that the "old" saints should be dead and buried and this glorious "new" saints with its bimbo programme sellers, stupid car park charges and Chairman who is too scared to face a press conference is the way forward..... fair play... lets hope the football is good to watch in the meantime... ;-)Linesman wrote:Selwyn froget...good work..milton road wrote: Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us? Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle. Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole. We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good. Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has. Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down. A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
i dont like what NC did to NA and i dont like the way he did it! and i hope NA goes on to succeed elsewhere. i hope that NC learns from the fans reaction to this that he might need to be a bit more open and explain his decisions. i hope the fasns get behind MP and dont boo him. most of all i hope i am able to support my team for years to come, if thats in L1 or the champions league. you may not like NC or his ways but dont start calling other fans `happyclappers` just because they dont agree with you, it makes you look very narrow minded and bitter.
Baddesley Bill
says...
10:02pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Aint nothing wrong with being a happy clapper imo.
Benali76
says...
10:03pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Linesman wrote:Linesman you and saggy face are both Skates so what you think about Saints matters not one bit.
milton road wrote:With the abuse that Matt Le Tissier is getting on another page, if fans resort to that after what he has done for the club, over many years, I am not so sure that NA will not soon be forgotten.
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
J7junctionseven
says...
10:09pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:I'm a plappy crapper to....
I am a "happy clapper". I hear that there will be several thousand "happy clappers" going to the Wigan away game. We will be making the long and arduous journey there in order to "happy clap" our team to a win...and to help secure Premier League survival.
Aint nothing wrong with being a happy clapper imo.
mack chinnon
says...
10:10pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:We owe Wigan one.
I am a "happy clapper". I hear that there will be several thousand "happy clappers" going to the Wigan away game. We will be making the long and arduous journey there in order to "happy clap" our team to a win...and to help secure Premier League survival.
Aint nothing wrong with being a happy clapper imo.
saintshorse101
says...
10:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:nothing wrong with it at all bill. i just get annoyed with some who consider themselves `better fans` than others and do so by calling those fans `happyclappers`. i grew up to believe that shouting and cheering for your team was a good thing, and in fact the done thing. i find it strange that some fans dont like this.
I am a "happy clapper". I hear that there will be several thousand "happy clappers" going to the Wigan away game. We will be making the long and arduous journey there in order to "happy clap" our team to a win...and to help secure Premier League survival. Aint nothing wrong with being a happy clapper imo.
slugger
says...
10:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
J7junctionseven
says...
10:28pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:BOOOOOM!!!.....COYR!
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
10:30pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
slugger
says...
10:36pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:The difference being that we DO have access to proper financial backing ...... I'll support until i have good reason not to , skunts ? ..... no comparison .
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
10:43pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:I mean't in the blind trust without question. It's a dangerous stance to take.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:The difference being that we DO have access to proper financial backing ...... I'll support until i have good reason not to , skunts ? ..... no comparison .
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
st bevois
says...
10:45pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Agreed - except for the blue line, prefer a red one!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:The difference being that we DO have access to proper financial backing ...... I'll support until i have good reason not to , skunts ? ..... no comparison .
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
saintshorse101
says...
10:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:no its not blind faith seed, i have said before i dont like the way NC has handled the adkins sacking, i dont like the fact that he sacked him. NC needs to be made aware of the fact that fans didnt like that move, he needs to be aware that fans need some more info and openness, and unless he is dumb blind deaf and stupid he will know the results of his actions and the fans need to let him know again at the game tomorrow night. this though must not interfere with the team and the new manager and the ultimate goal of staying in the pre. as for him being accountable, he is, he is accountable to the liebherr family. they put the money into the club and so have the final word.
slugger wrote: I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am. Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read. The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further. Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth. Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers. I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters. We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said: "Draw a blue line under it all and move on." So here is that blue line................ ... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO? That's what the skunts did.
slugger
says...
10:50pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Oh well ...... i like to take the odd risk :o)
slugger wrote:I mean't in the blind trust without question. It's a dangerous stance to take.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:The difference being that we DO have access to proper financial backing ...... I'll support until i have good reason not to , skunts ? ..... no comparison .
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
mack chinnon
says...
10:50pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Agree but the change of personnel wasnt conducted in a very Saintly way and portrayed the club and Cortese in a bad light.
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
slugger
says...
11:06pm Sun 20 Jan 13
mack chinnon wrote:Couldn't agree more ........ I just believe that he'll get us there !
slugger wrote:Agree but the change of personnel wasnt conducted in a very Saintly way and portrayed the club and Cortese in a bad light.
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
Baddesley Bill
says...
11:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I don't honestly feel there is blind trust. We (as fans) are all on our guard after the actions taken on Friday.
slugger wrote:I mean't in the blind trust without question. It's a dangerous stance to take.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:The difference being that we DO have access to proper financial backing ...... I'll support until i have good reason not to , skunts ? ..... no comparison .
slugger wrote:So blind faith? No scutinising? No accountability for the CEO?
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
That's what the skunts did.
Cortese (by his ruthless actions) has made a pledge that he will take our Club to another level. He is under scrutiny without doubt. The whole sports media (let alone us) will be on his case.
We can judge him at the end of the season imo. In the meantime... the 11 on the pitch have my FULL support.
slugger
says...
11:12pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven
says...
11:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13
How many times have we all heard and said that.
I can remember sitting with a few mates before a game having a few beers and a asking each other who did we think would play, what will the score be, etc etc.
That includes the games this year, last year and the year before when NA was in charge.
I can remember Wigan, Fulham, Swansea, Norwich and Sunderland at home especially this season. I can remember these games because I like most of my mates and probably most of the Saints fans on here thought they were games we said were winnable and we a fancied our chances for 3 points from each.
We didn't win one of them.
Maybe we were guilty of "blind faith", over expectations and not scrutinising the opposition properly....or just guilty of being happy clappers tinged with over confidence and to much alcohol.
What I do know is when I came out of the ground after those games I felt as though we had f'cked up by not winning them and wondered why.
Was it bad luck, bad officials decisions, bad performances by our players or poor tactics, team selection and substitutions etc by the manager NA.
In hindsight I'd say all of the above but mainly the latter. Like most people although disappointed I was still right behind the manager and team as we were all getting used to the ups and downs of the PL and in a way thought we would soon turn the corner which we started to do.
The cup game against Chelski did p1ss me off only for the fact that we were hammered and live on TV but still kept the faith as I do now.
Blind Faith?.....probably more like blinkered faith.
No scrutinising?...plen
ty of "post mortems" and many a cross word exchanged even with mates after poor results.
Accountability for the CEO?..Probably not at the time as we as many did think he was or is the brains behind our dramatic turnaround and meteoric rise back to the PL but now realise he will get us to where he wants us to be and where many of the fans want us to be by any means possible.
I'm a Saints fan, not an NC fan but if NC has Saints interests at the top of his agenda and if the gamble with a new manager pays off then he'll do for me. If it doesn't he will then be scrutinised by one and all in the football world but mostly by us the fans.
COYR 3-1 win on Monday will be a step in the right direction
ghk230473
says...
11:31pm Sun 20 Jan 13
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
J7junctionseven
says...
11:35pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:36pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Anyway, let's move on. Some teams picked up points yesterday so we really need something tomorrow night, particularly bearing in mind the next two games. Big game made even bigger now.
COYR
J7junctionseven
says...
11:37pm Sun 20 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:If we are not and finish mid table and attract even more reallygood additions to the squad in the summer, what do you think we should do then?
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:43pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:That's entirely my point about accountability. It means being accountable for your decisions - which might be a promotion or pay rise or might be the sack. I seriously hope we are midtable and getting ready to push on, awesome. God forbid we collapse and end up bottom - Cortese has to go. I do admire his single mindedness and think he might succeed.
ghk230473 wrote:If we are not and finish mid table and attract even more reallygood additions to the squad in the summer, what do you think we should do then?
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
ghk230473
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11:43pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I would imagine the 'family have heard and I wounder what impression they are getting about football, not a positive one!
I don't know if his decisions are right or wrong, only time will tell. Accountability in any business or activity is key. Saying he is accountable to the Liebherrs is well and good, but what if the only person speaking to them was Cortese? They might only get one perspective. Bit like Barings Bank asking Nick Leeson about Nick Leesons trading...
Anyway, let's move on. Some teams picked up points yesterday so we really need something tomorrow night, particularly bearing in mind the next two games. Big game made even bigger now.
COYR
What comes around goes around and what goes around comes around.
J7junctionseven
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11:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I hope for us the fans, the club and his sake he and we both succeed....blinkered faith or love of our club I really hope it works.
J7junctionseven wrote:That's entirely my point about accountability. It means being accountable for your decisions - which might be a promotion or pay rise or might be the sack. I seriously hope we are midtable and getting ready to push on, awesome. God forbid we collapse and end up bottom - Cortese has to go. I do admire his single mindedness and think he might succeed.
ghk230473 wrote:If we are not and finish mid table and attract even more reallygood additions to the squad in the summer, what do you think we should do then?
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
ghk230473
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11:53pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:We still have time to get them in now, especially as mp has been waiting in the wings watching for weeks! (and what sort of bloke does that)?
ghk230473 wrote:If we are not and finish mid table and attract even more reallygood additions to the squad in the summer, what do you think we should do then?
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
I hope and pray we do well but history shows that clubs who keep managers do well, we are on our 3rd already.
If it pays off, cortese will eventually have a statue of himself, big if though.
st bevois
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11:56pm Sun 20 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:Probably too interested in milking this issue. As slugger said on the other thread - just about every man and his dog has commented on this issue, many of whom are just out to stir things up even more. Even the commentator at this afternoon's Chelsea match couldn't help a "...and goodness knows what the atmosphere will be like at St Mary's tomorrow night.....". Was that a "plug" or what - Sky will milk this for all it is worth too. I bet they can't believe their luck either and they are expecting a bumper upturn for Monday night football viewing figs. You just know that BBC and ITV will have roving cameras in Britannia Rd looking to pick up quotes from Saints Fans. They are not interested in us now - its just the next circus act for them. Will they make a bee-line for our so-called spokesman.........or will he make a bee-line for them? (in the best interests of all of us of course)!!
Why have the Echo not done a thread about our new signng yet?
J7junctionseven
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12:06am Mon 21 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:True we have time and I'd be surprised if we didn't bring in a couple more in this window which is why I mentioned the mid table finish.
J7junctionseven wrote:We still have time to get them in now, especially as mp has been waiting in the wings watching for weeks! (and what sort of bloke does that)?
ghk230473 wrote:If we are not and finish mid table and attract even more reallygood additions to the squad in the summer, what do you think we should do then?
slugger wrote:If we are relegated I hope cortese gets treated the same way by the owners.
Truth is that i adored being a big fish in a small pond in L1 and then the Championship ........... but now i have a taste for winning (great feeling aint it ?) ...... so I share Nicola's vision and have a feeling he'll get us there .
I hope and pray we do well but history shows that clubs who keep managers do well, we are on our 3rd already.
If it pays off, cortese will eventually have a statue of himself, big if though.
The type of person who may have already sited some players to bring in is someone who has been given a budget and time for forward planning to enable him to hit the ground running and strengthen an already solid foundation without undoing the hard work that's been done over the last 3 years or so.
That sounds to me like someone who is very astute and wants to succeed rather than fail....namely Nicola Cortese.
I don't think he's a statue type, a bigger yacht maybe
OSPREYSAINT
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12:16am Mon 21 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:Fell for that one hook line and stinker.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:My wife likes secrecy and she hates me for being too nosy - at least that's what she keeps writing in her diary.
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
My mate was challenged yesterday for fishing in a private lake. He said the notice was clearly headed "PRIVATE" so he didn't read it. He then told the warden that he wasn't fishing but just teaching his pet worm to swim.
Littleton-Saint
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12:24am Mon 21 Jan 13
milton road wrote:Why does appointing a failure who can't speak English make Cortese clever?
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
Thornhill Saint
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12:30am Mon 21 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Food post.. NC has delivered so far, and has a good chance of pulling this off.
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
It would be much better if he could work on his timing and start communicating better with the fans though.
Dr snuggles
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12:52am Mon 21 Jan 13
Littleton-Saint wrote:yawn!
milton road wrote:Why does appointing a failure who can't speak English make Cortese clever?
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
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12:56am Mon 21 Jan 13
J7junctionseven wrote:They posted the thread on Friday 18th around 17:00 hrs, just scroll down and you will find it, not many comments as it got swamped by another trivial matter.
Why have the Echo not done a thread about our new signng yet?
OSPREYSAINT
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12:58am Mon 21 Jan 13
Littleton-Saint wrote:Has anyone said it was clever? It might be, you don't know yet, it will become apparent one way or another, all in good time.
milton road wrote:Why does appointing a failure who can't speak English make Cortese clever?
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
gladbachsaint
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1:20am Mon 21 Jan 13
Littleton-Saint wrote:Cortese didn't appoint Redknapp
milton road wrote:Why does appointing a failure who can't speak English make Cortese clever?
Even if MP does win a couple of games, even if we end up chanting his name. Harry you are wrong, we will not froget NA ever, after all we did not forget you and the mess you left us?
Nor did we forget what Pardew did for us on his return with Newcastle.
Nor our youngsters who arsenal stole.
We have a ruthless and clever chairman, just hope he hasn't been too clever for his own good.
Because it is us and our club that will suffer if he has.
Sure I will cheer for NA tomorrow and I will cheer for the team. I won't slag Cortese or the new guy, we need to be together and focused on a win tomorrow night. Actually I hope it will be called off. We need the extra time to sort things out and for things to settle down.
A team going out who doesn't know the manager and vice versa does not bode well.
batesieboy
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2:12am Mon 21 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Yawn. You must have been reading all my posts since last Friday, Slugger.
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
Flashin the pan
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7:27am Mon 21 Jan 13
Saints are messed up especially after NA got the boot.
Ramirez is looking for away out just by reading his body language says a lot.
More bad news, Lambert and Davies, their days are surely numbered for this new manager don't like playing 'golden oldies' in his team just spanish ones.
Everton 3-1
Tirau Dan
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8:05am Mon 21 Jan 13
The Southampton Way.
Lol I'd settle for snapping my fingers and having Pompey Disappear for good.
SO50 Saint
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8:07am Mon 21 Jan 13
Nigel will be absolutely fine he will find another club and the season after next if not next season we will be welcoming him back with another club in the Premier League.
Pottechino's Red and White Army :)
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8:48am Mon 21 Jan 13
SO50 Saint
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8:52am Mon 21 Jan 13
apm1954
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10:05am Mon 21 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint
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10:16am Mon 21 Jan 13
batesieboy wrote:No yawning from me. You've summed it up nicely, Slugger.
slugger wrote:Yawn. You must have been reading all my posts since last Friday, Slugger.
I have read newspaper articles, listened to the radio reports, watched the football programmes on TV and surfed the web endlessly and I have become very angry with comments made about our football club by people who are full of their own prejudice and who are no more informed about matters leading up to Nigel’s sacking than I am.
Some of our fans need to face up to a few facts. They might like to believe that Cortese eats babies for breakfast, that he kicks puppies and beats his wife and whatever other exaggerated nonsense they may have read.
The facts are that Nicola Cortese saved our club from a fate every bit as bad or even worse than Pompey are facing. He encouraged Markus to buy the club and it is his drive and ambition that has seen us have the resources to get back into the Premier League and that includes appointing Nigel Adkins in the first place and he has the drive and ambition to take us even further.
Yes we are all upset by Nigel's dismissal and what the papers have said about how that was handled and we know the papers always tell you the absolute truth.
Nicola Cortese only cares about this football club. He does not care about you or me or Matt Le Tissier and his bitter views nor does he care about the Daily Mail or the Sun or the archaic ways of the old Pros on the telly who still think things are like they were when they played twenty years ago. He doesn't have the patience for the devious and mischievous ways the media works nor the usual games that other clubs, agents and players try on when dealing with transfers.
I have the utmost respect for Nigel and I will follow his career with great interest and wish him well and success with whatever club he may manage but I am a Saints fan and for me the success and continuation of Southampton Football club is all that matters.
We can sulk, we can hurl insults, wave white handkerchiefs, whinge away in cyberspace or we can do what Nigel always said:
"Draw a blue line under it all and move on."
So here is that blue line................
... copied and pasted again but you get my drift ?
Moving on, will there be a game tonight? How's the weather looking?
warrens 76
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1:07pm Mon 21 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Trouble is Seed it is all mixed up because unlike buying a loaf of bread or paying the gas bill...owning and controlling a football club is both commercial and personal...
warrens 76 wrote:Warrens I have to disagree with you on this one - I know you misunderstood J7's post, but that's not my point.
J7junctionseven wrote:J7 get a grip..no Cortese equals no club..
Couldn't give a flying f@ck what that money grabbing fraud has to say about the club he stabbed in the heart and then in the back for good measure.
Do one you vile ,corrupt, greedy, immoral pr!ck.
The Echo have even chosen a photo of the pr!ck poking his tongue out FFS
....not everything is black and white otherwise all our wives would be like Mary Poppins to the Kids and the best pornstar in bed..taught by Gordon Ramsey to cook...
I like you and your posts but widen the view on this one.
You say no Cortese equals no club, by which I assume you mean no owners. That's equating SFC to being an emotional decision. I have no problem with that. Other times you might post saying Cortese's decisions are purely hardnosed business ones. I have no problem with that either. But we can't mix and match. If this is a hard nosed business so be it - which means shareholders replace CEO's if they don't deliver just like CEO's replace managers if they don't deliver.
Level playing field is my point. Either it's pure business like Glazers and Manure or it's emoitional like Dave Whelan and Wigan.
Not aimed at you btw but the type of post that many make that mix the two up.
Nobody gets emotional about most commercial transaction but here feelings are in the mix...
doing the best for the club can offend many people..
Personally I think the hostility would have been greatly reduced if a) we had not been promoted or b) in the bottom 3 rather than above it..decent bloke or not..
Our purported decency is tempered by good results overall...without them the holier than thou brigade would be the minority..
I wish he was here....but if NC vision is achieved I will b ecstatic..I am sick of the south not dining at the top table..
lowe esteem
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5:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:You missed a VERY SIGNIFICANT manouvre that says a whole lot more:
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
NO red and white stripes and a white shirt at Home.. because he can...remember...lov
e him or loave him...it's his ball at the moment, and he can go home when he wants to.
Thank you Mr Adkins, forever a Saint.
mushrooms
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5:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13
lowe esteem
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5:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13
lowe esteem wrote:Didn't use me natty dread then...
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:You missed a VERY SIGNIFICANT manouvre that says a whole lot more:
Whilst fishing for Grayling on the river Test today I had time to mull it over.
My conclusion is that this is about confidence in Cortese's decision making ability. To replace Nigel with another coach hinges on that.
Some say he know's what he's doing and is very ambitious.
Others will point to the falling out with AP, the Echo and other media, Eddie Howe, ex players, not defending the court cases for non payment against Solent Interiors and ex members of staff, ticket office etc etc.
If we are to trust his decision making ability we can only judge it on what we see due to the secrecy level at SMS.
It's that simple - does he make good decisions?
I don't know. What I do know is that blind faith is foolhardy in the extreme, checks and balances are what avoid the melt down that happened at Pompey or in the wider world the banks. If you don't scrutinise then all you are doing is crossing your fingers and hoping.
Anyway, smashed my personal best Grayling so all is good here!
NO red and white stripes and a white shirt at Home.. because he can...remember...lov
e him or loave him...it's his ball at the moment, and he can go home when he wants to.
Thank you Mr Adkins, forever a Saint.
"LOATHE him" -maybe that kneaded saying again...forgive the floury prose...dough!

Baddesley Bill says...
2:05pm Sun 20 Jan 13