Pep's backing for new Saints boss Pochettino

Daily Echo: Mauricio Pochettino Mauricio Pochettino

by Joseph Sexton

Mauricio Pochettino’s remarkable work with the Espanyol youth academy helped win him a dream job with Saints – and the backing of ex-Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola!

The 40-year-old Argentinian was sacked by the La Liga club towards the end of last November with Espanyol bottom of the table.

In his last 20 league games with the club, stretching back to the end of last season, the new Saints boss won just three and lost 13.

During his 145 games in the Spanish top flight with Barcelona-based Espanyol, Pochettino’s win ratio was 34 per cent with 44 per cent of games lost.

But it was his work with Espanyol’s academy that mainly attracted him to Saints chairman Nicola Cortese.

Pochettino is held in high regard in Spain, and Bayern Munich boss in waiting Guardiola has said: “I admire him for his ideals, his character. The foundations of his principles are always the same.”

Saints’ academy has produced gems in recent years such as Theo Walcott, Gareth Bale, Alex Chamberlain, Adam Lallana and now Luke Shaw.

But Espanyol’s record is even more impressive, and Pochettino takes a lot of credit for that.

They have produced a remarkable 15 Spanish internationals across all age levels since the turn of the Millennium.

Around forty players currently appearing in Spain’s top two divisions have come from Espanyol.

Cortese has said he wants to build a Barcelona-type model at Saints. Seven of the Barca side that started the 2009 Champions League final were home-grown, and Cortese believes he can oversee such a system at St Mary’s.

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8:58am Mon 21 Jan 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Will he be given time to do his job, Ijust hope he can it the ground running
Will he be given time to do his job, Ijust hope he can it the ground running Folkestone Saint
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9:02am Mon 21 Jan 13

fairdinkum says...

Excellent credentials for a Spanish speaking youth team then ;-). Good Luck tonight Mauricio. Que no te pica el toro! (someone will probably correct me on that)
Excellent credentials for a Spanish speaking youth team then ;-). Good Luck tonight Mauricio. Que no te pica el toro! (someone will probably correct me on that) fairdinkum
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9:04am Mon 21 Jan 13

Dickosfc says...

Really want to get a result tonight! Still gutted about Nigel but its not the teams fault and creating a hostile atmoshphere for them tonight wouldn't be fair.
Really want to get a result tonight! Still gutted about Nigel but its not the teams fault and creating a hostile atmoshphere for them tonight wouldn't be fair. Dickosfc
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9:06am Mon 21 Jan 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ? Folkestone Saint
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9:08am Mon 21 Jan 13

Landsdowne saint says...

I can understand Corteses thinking , but the timing of sacking NA is bad, whatever happens we must back the new manager because he's going to need every bit of support he can from us , as it looks as tho NC has already distanced himself from our new man
I can understand Corteses thinking , but the timing of sacking NA is bad, whatever happens we must back the new manager because he's going to need every bit of support he can from us , as it looks as tho NC has already distanced himself from our new man Landsdowne saint
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9:08am Mon 21 Jan 13

Puddletown Saint says...

Going for 3-2 tonight Team will up for it.

Rickie Gaston and Spider COYR
Going for 3-2 tonight Team will up for it. Rickie Gaston and Spider COYR Puddletown Saint
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9:11am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it. OSPREYSAINT
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9:17am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Mauricio comes with high praise from others, let's see if he can do the job, survival this season is still the prime aim, secure that and we can go on from there, anything better is a bonus.
Mauricio comes with high praise from others, let's see if he can do the job, survival this season is still the prime aim, secure that and we can go on from there, anything better is a bonus. OSPREYSAINT
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9:19am Mon 21 Jan 13

Folkestone Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.
Cheer's ossie, I know what you mean about the neg's especially when that's all they write, I will be a realist like I said the other day against Chelsea "anything better than 2-0 is a result" but when it is continual I use the scroll wheel
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.[/p][/quote]Cheer's ossie, I know what you mean about the neg's especially when that's all they write, I will be a realist like I said the other day against Chelsea "anything better than 2-0 is a result" but when it is continual I use the scroll wheel Folkestone Saint
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9:26am Mon 21 Jan 13

olddellsaint says...

I can see a young Saints team each match, with some older players, good or bad we will see????????????
I can see a young Saints team each match, with some older players, good or bad we will see???????????? olddellsaint
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9:27am Mon 21 Jan 13

Confucious says...

I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot).

Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for.

When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine.

It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe.

His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered.

Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight.

There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks.

Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back.
I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot). Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for. When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine. It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe. His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered. Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight. There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks. Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back. Confucious
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9:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ? MGRA
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9:31am Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have... SaintMax
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9:31am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway. St Retford
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9:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
That was all down to timing and desire of the player to leave.
We weren't anywhere near guaranteed going up, multi millions laid on the table, and a boy who could see the chance of going to a top European club.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]That was all down to timing and desire of the player to leave. We weren't anywhere near guaranteed going up, multi millions laid on the table, and a boy who could see the chance of going to a top European club. SaintMax
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9:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

Sunny Saint says...

I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-) Sunny Saint
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9:35am Mon 21 Jan 13

Clever Dick says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
Looks like it's added one for you today to make up for it.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]Looks like it's added one for you today to make up for it. Clever Dick
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9:36am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
Because AOC wanted to go. Next.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]Because AOC wanted to go. Next. St Retford
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9:36am Mon 21 Jan 13

Dave Juson says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
Given Alex's determination to go, what was the alternative?
Or are you suggesting that he was dragged out of St Mary's kicking and screaming?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]Given Alex's determination to go, what was the alternative? Or are you suggesting that he was dragged out of St Mary's kicking and screaming? Dave Juson
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9:39am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
[quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board. St Retford
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9:41am Mon 21 Jan 13

Folkestone Saint says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
AOC was going, all we did was get paid or risk losing him on a free and him not perfoming or us and causing disruption whilst still here
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]AOC was going, all we did was get paid or risk losing him on a free and him not perfoming or us and causing disruption whilst still here Folkestone Saint
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9:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.) St Retford
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9:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
Looks like it's added one for you today to make up for it.
O.K. Clever Dick, :0)
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]Looks like it's added one for you today to make up for it.[/p][/quote]O.K. Clever Dick, :0) Folkestone Saint
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9:57am Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell.
New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again.
Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell. New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again. Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away. SaintMax
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9:58am Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back. three halves
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10:05am Mon 21 Jan 13

coxfordsaint says...

It is good that the new manager is known for youth team activities,my only concern is that he has been brought in to make money by producing players like walcott, chamberlain to to sell on rather then keep..I am not sure of this persons credentials, i have never heard of any other british teams queuing up for his services, but that does not mean he will not succeed.
The way NA has been treated is a disgrace but coming from the reputation we have with chairman it is no real surprise.If we win the next half a dozen games and play fast flowing good attacking football NA will unfortunatley become just a memory like alan pardew when he was replaced

COYR saints fan through thick and thin
It is good that the new manager is known for youth team activities,my only concern is that he has been brought in to make money by producing players like walcott, chamberlain to to sell on rather then keep..I am not sure of this persons credentials, i have never heard of any other british teams queuing up for his services, but that does not mean he will not succeed. The way NA has been treated is a disgrace but coming from the reputation we have with chairman it is no real surprise.If we win the next half a dozen games and play fast flowing good attacking football NA will unfortunatley become just a memory like alan pardew when he was replaced COYR saints fan through thick and thin coxfordsaint
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10:08am Mon 21 Jan 13

Clever Dick says...

As he is so good with the youth sides and has no experience of Prem players perhaps we should play the under 21s. Get a victory and he will instantly be a huge success and NC a genius for bringing it all about.
As he is so good with the youth sides and has no experience of Prem players perhaps we should play the under 21s. Get a victory and he will instantly be a huge success and NC a genius for bringing it all about. Clever Dick
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10:09am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell.
New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again.
Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away.
I love Nigel too - it's hard not to because he's a lovable kind of guy.

Equally, mind, I also have the utmost respect for Nicola in his determination to do what is in the best interests of this football club. Maybe he's moving too fast for some supporters, but I'd rather have a guy determined to drag us in the right direction and who backs his judgement up with financial investment than I would someone who considers our natural status to be relegation-dodgers.

Sometimes he's going to upset people but I don't think he really cares so long as his decisions pay off. As a wise man once said, faint heart never made an omelette for fair lady without breaking eggs. Or something like that...
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell. New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again. Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away.[/p][/quote]I love Nigel too - it's hard not to because he's a lovable kind of guy. Equally, mind, I also have the utmost respect for Nicola in his determination to do what is in the best interests of this football club. Maybe he's moving too fast for some supporters, but I'd rather have a guy determined to drag us in the right direction and who backs his judgement up with financial investment than I would someone who considers our natural status to be relegation-dodgers. Sometimes he's going to upset people but I don't think he really cares so long as his decisions pay off. As a wise man once said, faint heart never made an omelette for fair lady without breaking eggs. Or something like that... St Retford
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10:10am Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

10
10 Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:13am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me. OSPREYSAINT
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10:13am Mon 21 Jan 13

donravies says...

Shocked as we all were... I no longer see the point in protesting. NA goney. New man in. When all is said at done; at the end of the day Brian; what we've got is what we've got. Live with it. If we make it through the rain and the new lad 'done good', I'll be pleased for the town, the lads, and even that f***** NC
Shocked as we all were... I no longer see the point in protesting. NA goney. New man in. When all is said at done; at the end of the day Brian; what we've got is what we've got. Live with it. If we make it through the rain and the new lad 'done good', I'll be pleased for the town, the lads, and even that f***** NC donravies
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10:13am Mon 21 Jan 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
I would read a bit further - from the stories I've seen, he wasn't sacked it was mutual and Espanyol are currently doing a Pompey (who?)

He lost all his star talent because they were sold, the clubs finances are in a right mess and they couldnt give him the backing he needed to get in the right players for the club.

Got to get right behind the team tonight. sing all through the match and drown out any Everton away supporters who make it down.
Only way we can influence whats happening. Ever Nige ever comes back to St Mary's we can show him our appreciation for what he did then.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]I would read a bit further - from the stories I've seen, he wasn't sacked it was mutual and Espanyol are currently doing a Pompey (who?) He lost all his star talent because they were sold, the clubs finances are in a right mess and they couldnt give him the backing he needed to get in the right players for the club. Got to get right behind the team tonight. sing all through the match and drown out any Everton away supporters who make it down. Only way we can influence whats happening. Ever Nige ever comes back to St Mary's we can show him our appreciation for what he did then. Stroppy_gramps
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10:16am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it. OSPREYSAINT
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10:21am Mon 21 Jan 13

Bingo from Sholing says...

I wonder if Cortese "...the clown (1)..." will turn up tonight?

Ref: (1) Sunday Mail 20/01/2013
I wonder if Cortese "...the clown (1)..." will turn up tonight? Ref: (1) Sunday Mail 20/01/2013 Bingo from Sholing
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10:22am Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me.
Im sure some will be back along with more plastic glory hunters that latch onto clubs when successful but some long terms fans that have had enough wont be.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me.[/p][/quote]Im sure some will be back along with more plastic glory hunters that latch onto clubs when successful but some long terms fans that have had enough wont be. three halves
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10:22am Mon 21 Jan 13

abbiscuits says...

if we'd kept adkins i would have gone for a 2-1 win tonight, however, now i think it will be 2-2. rickie and forren!
if we'd kept adkins i would have gone for a 2-1 win tonight, however, now i think it will be 2-2. rickie and forren! abbiscuits
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10:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

Although I personally don't like the moral ethics that NC sometimes shows I am so happy to have a chairman with balls. Whatever happens I do trust him when he says he is doing things for the future good of our club, he has a reputation for being a ruthless, hardstanding business man (some might say a banker..:-) ) but honestly I'm glad he is like he is. There are no friends in business as they say and the football world of business is a particularly ruthless one.
The fact is he is not here to win any friends, he has plans for this club that seem to be a little more then most saints fans are use too, I know that NA's sacking was a big surprise, or should I say the timing of the sacking, but we suspected that it was on the cards and when would have been a good time. I hope for the teams and the fans sake it works out.
Although I personally don't like the moral ethics that NC sometimes shows I am so happy to have a chairman with balls. Whatever happens I do trust him when he says he is doing things for the future good of our club, he has a reputation for being a ruthless, hardstanding business man (some might say a banker..:-) ) but honestly I'm glad he is like he is. There are no friends in business as they say and the football world of business is a particularly ruthless one. The fact is he is not here to win any friends, he has plans for this club that seem to be a little more then most saints fans are use too, I know that NA's sacking was a big surprise, or should I say the timing of the sacking, but we suspected that it was on the cards and when would have been a good time. I hope for the teams and the fans sake it works out. rednwhite72
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10:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

Confucious says...

St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money. Confucious
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10:29am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me.
Im sure some will be back along with more plastic glory hunters that latch onto clubs when successful but some long terms fans that have had enough wont be.
It is of course their choice, but I suspect, some will think again having made a their choice when their emotions were all mixed up, some will feel that their loyalty to Nigel Adkins is greater than their feelings for a Club that they think has wronged them, fair enough, they must follow Nigel wherever he goes and keep supporting him. I will follow his progress because I thought he was great. However I am a Southampton FC fan, and they get my support what ever happens, that is my choice I suspect I am not unique.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]Ye of little faith, you know how fickle fans can be, give them some success and they will come, believe me.[/p][/quote]Im sure some will be back along with more plastic glory hunters that latch onto clubs when successful but some long terms fans that have had enough wont be.[/p][/quote]It is of course their choice, but I suspect, some will think again having made a their choice when their emotions were all mixed up, some will feel that their loyalty to Nigel Adkins is greater than their feelings for a Club that they think has wronged them, fair enough, they must follow Nigel wherever he goes and keep supporting him. I will follow his progress because I thought he was great. However I am a Southampton FC fan, and they get my support what ever happens, that is my choice I suspect I am not unique. OSPREYSAINT
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10:32am Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.
If it did I would have been very rich a long time ago.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.[/p][/quote]If it did I would have been very rich a long time ago. OSPREYSAINT
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10:32am Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no. Velleity
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10:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

carllewis1966 says...

As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.
As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over. carllewis1966
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10:34am Mon 21 Jan 13

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Sorry Max, but that's ridiculous. If teams can keep going under their 'own momentum', why bother having a manager there for the whole season? To be honest, they all seemed pretty chirpy in the pics from the training session on the OS so hope that carries onto the pitch. And that Everton have an off day too wouldn't go amiss...
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Sorry Max, but that's ridiculous. If teams can keep going under their 'own momentum', why bother having a manager there for the whole season? To be honest, they all seemed pretty chirpy in the pics from the training session on the OS so hope that carries onto the pitch. And that Everton have an off day too wouldn't go amiss... ramptonfromsouthampton
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10:41am Mon 21 Jan 13

fairdinkum says...

St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived. fairdinkum
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10:42am Mon 21 Jan 13

Confucious says...

Mauricio will need to get his pronunciation up to speed fast. I heard he was chucked out of a restaurant last night after asking the waitress for a quickie. He wanted a quiche.
Mauricio will need to get his pronunciation up to speed fast. I heard he was chucked out of a restaurant last night after asking the waitress for a quickie. He wanted a quiche. Confucious
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10:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

Sainty saint saint says...

I don't necessarily have a problem with NA being sacked (although I do think it was a bad idea, and NA could have turned out to be a great manager for us long-term), but my main issue is with the manner of the sacking.

I understand what people are saying about NC having the best intentions for the club, etc. but that doesn't mean you have to carry out your business in such an unprincipled way.

It could have been handled much better, and I think that's most Saints fans' issue with it all.

I can't imagine Markus dealing with it this way. I CAN imagine him buying into NC's vision that a new manager is required, but he wouldn't have been so disrespectful to a good manager.

I see nothing wrong with fans chanting Nigel's name before the match, showing our support for a great Saints manager and thanking him for what he did. But then we need to support the team as it is now, and the new manager, regardless of the poorly managed transition.
I don't necessarily have a problem with NA being sacked (although I do think it was a bad idea, and NA could have turned out to be a great manager for us long-term), but my main issue is with the manner of the sacking. I understand what people are saying about NC having the best intentions for the club, etc. but that doesn't mean you have to carry out your business in such an unprincipled way. It could have been handled much better, and I think that's most Saints fans' issue with it all. I can't imagine Markus dealing with it this way. I CAN imagine him buying into NC's vision that a new manager is required, but he wouldn't have been so disrespectful to a good manager. I see nothing wrong with fans chanting Nigel's name before the match, showing our support for a great Saints manager and thanking him for what he did. But then we need to support the team as it is now, and the new manager, regardless of the poorly managed transition. Sainty saint saint
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10:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

meanmoodymidget says...

Corteses is only in it for the money ! NOTHING ELSE ! He's brought this new guy in to be a YES-MAN ! Yes we will continue to bring on new players,ut only for Corteses to sell on to line his pockets ! Time to Wake-Up-And-Smell-Th
e-Coffee ! This bloke who has shunned Saints legends "Le God,Fanny and Big Mac" because they can see what's happening . . . !
Corteses is only in it for the money ! NOTHING ELSE ! He's brought this new guy in to be a YES-MAN ! Yes we will continue to bring on new players,ut only for Corteses to sell on to line his pockets ! Time to Wake-Up-And-Smell-Th e-Coffee ! This bloke who has shunned Saints legends "Le God,Fanny and Big Mac" because they can see what's happening . . . ! meanmoodymidget
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10:46am Mon 21 Jan 13

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight. ramptonfromsouthampton
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10:50am Mon 21 Jan 13

bigste says...

This is all looking like the Blackburn fiasco. They were safe as houses under Sam Allardyce and now look at them. As a rovers supporter I've seen it all and see big similarities here. Southampton were not going to run off with the league but could have been a safe premier club so why dismantle the management. Beggars belief to me.
This is all looking like the Blackburn fiasco. They were safe as houses under Sam Allardyce and now look at them. As a rovers supporter I've seen it all and see big similarities here. Southampton were not going to run off with the league but could have been a safe premier club so why dismantle the management. Beggars belief to me. bigste
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10:51am Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

carllewis1966 wrote:
As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.
Hi Carl,

I understand that's how it may look, and there are some people on here (a minority, it seems from post numbers) who agree with the decision.

However, what many of us have done is gone from total shock and outrage at the time of the decision to the acceptance that it has happened so there's nothing to be done. Once you've made that decision, there is only one thing left, which is to support the team. I think what you're getting is resignation to what's happened rather than outright support (from most).

You may be right and this may be the start of a slide. I'm sure you'll appreciate that, as fans, we don't want it to be and we'd love this to lead to greater success. However, whatever happens, we just need to stand behind the team.

NA was a big believer in controlling the controllables. All we can control that might help our team is the level of support. We'd be mad not to give as much as we can.
[quote][p][bold]carllewis1966[/bold] wrote: As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.[/p][/quote]Hi Carl, I understand that's how it may look, and there are some people on here (a minority, it seems from post numbers) who agree with the decision. However, what many of us have done is gone from total shock and outrage at the time of the decision to the acceptance that it has happened so there's nothing to be done. Once you've made that decision, there is only one thing left, which is to support the team. I think what you're getting is resignation to what's happened rather than outright support (from most). You may be right and this may be the start of a slide. I'm sure you'll appreciate that, as fans, we don't want it to be and we'd love this to lead to greater success. However, whatever happens, we just need to stand behind the team. NA was a big believer in controlling the controllables. All we can control that might help our team is the level of support. We'd be mad not to give as much as we can. Velleity
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10:54am Mon 21 Jan 13

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

fairdinkum wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)
[quote][p][bold]fairdinkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.[/p][/quote]Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...) ramptonfromsouthampton
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10:55am Mon 21 Jan 13

up saints says...

the last thing we all want is saints fans to turn like chelsea.but i expect and hope before the game fans will chant there was only one nigel adkins.but mp has got a hard road to follow speaking little english dons't help.
the last thing we all want is saints fans to turn like chelsea.but i expect and hope before the game fans will chant there was only one nigel adkins.but mp has got a hard road to follow speaking little english dons't help. up saints
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10:56am Mon 21 Jan 13

malcher says...

NC is responsible for us existing let alone being in the Prem. He does what he feels he has to do to take our club forward.We may not always like the way he does it but he deserves our backing. Fans are so ready to believe what they read in the papers when it's negative. They have their own agendas.
I always have and always will support this club. I wish NA well and thank him for the great work he has done, but now fully support the new guy.
I hope our fans don't go down the immature and counterproductive route that Chelsea fans have.
COYR
NC is responsible for us existing let alone being in the Prem. He does what he feels he has to do to take our club forward.We may not always like the way he does it but he deserves our backing. Fans are so ready to believe what they read in the papers when it's negative. They have their own agendas. I always have and always will support this club. I wish NA well and thank him for the great work he has done, but now fully support the new guy. I hope our fans don't go down the immature and counterproductive route that Chelsea fans have. COYR malcher
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10:59am Mon 21 Jan 13

rocketone says...

I think I might have posted this comment about 5 times on different threads.
MP is known for his youth policy.
He is also known for a bad policy of collecting yellow and red cards. Something we have avoided recently.
Spider doesn't want to be encouraged to become the next Terry Hurlock!
As brilliant a story that was. A booking offence for being on the team sheet, and Mark Dennis?
I think I might have posted this comment about 5 times on different threads. MP is known for his youth policy. He is also known for a bad policy of collecting yellow and red cards. Something we have avoided recently. Spider doesn't want to be encouraged to become the next Terry Hurlock! As brilliant a story that was. A booking offence for being on the team sheet, and Mark Dennis? rocketone
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10:59am Mon 21 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

For years English football has dramatically lagged behind continental (particularly spanish) football...

Whilst the premiership disguises the facts with hordes of foreigners, our English players 'all' take too long on the ball, lose possession too easily and do not think quick...

I have complained this season that our SFC tempo was often too slow and we gave the oppossition too much time to cover defensively..

Giving the ball away with hoofed kicks is symptomatic of a lack of belief in keeping possession..

For years I have wanted England to do things in one movement not three..

To think that OUR team could be at the forefront of this style of play is unbelievable...and remember the teams we create with this style of play only work as a team who are all trained the same.

This is why Messi is fantastic for Barca but often disappears for Argentina..therefore if we create this style of play many of our players will not WANT to leave...

Big IF. however if that is Cortese's vision I am firmly on the Bus..
For years English football has dramatically lagged behind continental (particularly spanish) football... Whilst the premiership disguises the facts with hordes of foreigners, our English players 'all' take too long on the ball, lose possession too easily and do not think quick... I have complained this season that our SFC tempo was often too slow and we gave the oppossition too much time to cover defensively.. Giving the ball away with hoofed kicks is symptomatic of a lack of belief in keeping possession.. For years I have wanted England to do things in one movement not three.. To think that OUR team could be at the forefront of this style of play is unbelievable...and remember the teams we create with this style of play only work as a team who are all trained the same. This is why Messi is fantastic for Barca but often disappears for Argentina..therefore if we create this style of play many of our players will not WANT to leave... Big IF. however if that is Cortese's vision I am firmly on the Bus.. warrens 76
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11:05am Mon 21 Jan 13

Salar says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.
I also get "compatability restored" signs during the reading of long strings of posts. On match days if I remain logged in on this site on the match thread, my computer freezes (or slows up) after time. Happens on no other sites.....Yes and I am a tech illiterate too. I think that the time that it takes to load the adverts at the time I access the site is also way too long....
Spoils the enjoyment so I don't bother to read some stories....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.[/p][/quote]I also get "compatability restored" signs during the reading of long strings of posts. On match days if I remain logged in on this site on the match thread, my computer freezes (or slows up) after time. Happens on no other sites.....Yes and I am a tech illiterate too. I think that the time that it takes to load the adverts at the time I access the site is also way too long.... Spoils the enjoyment so I don't bother to read some stories.... Salar
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11:07am Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here. three halves
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11:09am Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight.
Good points well made.

We shall see, I guess.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight.[/p][/quote]Good points well made. We shall see, I guess. St Retford
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11:10am Mon 21 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

meanmoodymidget wrote:
Corteses is only in it for the money ! NOTHING ELSE ! He's brought this new guy in to be a YES-MAN ! Yes we will continue to bring on new players,ut only for Corteses to sell on to line his pockets ! Time to Wake-Up-And-Smell-Th

e-Coffee ! This bloke who has shunned Saints legends "Le God,Fanny and Big Mac" because they can see what's happening . . . !
Nice to have a chance to wind us up is'nt it..
[quote][p][bold]meanmoodymidget[/bold] wrote: Corteses is only in it for the money ! NOTHING ELSE ! He's brought this new guy in to be a YES-MAN ! Yes we will continue to bring on new players,ut only for Corteses to sell on to line his pockets ! Time to Wake-Up-And-Smell-Th e-Coffee ! This bloke who has shunned Saints legends "Le God,Fanny and Big Mac" because they can see what's happening . . . ![/p][/quote]Nice to have a chance to wind us up is'nt it.. warrens 76
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11:12am Mon 21 Jan 13

Sunny Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom Sunny Saint
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11:14am Mon 21 Jan 13

warrens 76 says...

Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
Yes, but will you be going on a saturday?
[quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]Yes, but will you be going on a saturday? warrens 76
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11:15am Mon 21 Jan 13

milton road says...

carllewis1966 says...
10:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.

Milton road reply
Believe me the majority of fans are upset by it, well upset.
We are also in the position of having to put it aside and backing the team 100% or we will go down.
No most of us believe NA should not have been sacked and in the short term at least will effect club and player morale.
NA in my opinion could have taken us all the way to Europe given time. he created a stability and unity that deserved better treatment than he got.
Yet going back to when NA was appointed, there is this nagging feeling of something said about appointing a manager to get us to the premiership and then a manager to take us up the premiership.
Still got a feeling that in time NA will end up at M.U. or Liverpool. It seems everyone around the country from managers to fans rate NA, everyone that is other than Cortese.

We are no longer a family club, in the first season after admin we won the paint pot, the next runners up and promotion, the next runners up and promotion. We never had a celebration for promotion, our owners never turned up for the last game to see it sealed and Cortese barely shook NA's hand cos it was considered failure we had not finished 1st.
Cortese has never steered us wrong on anything yet.
Yet Iike many i feel badly about this, the way it was done, to a man we felt deserved to be our manager.
If Cortese has this wrong we are relegated. Until now I never doubted we would stay up.
carllewis1966 says... 10:33am Mon 21 Jan 13 As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over. Milton road reply Believe me the majority of fans are upset by it, well upset. We are also in the position of having to put it aside and backing the team 100% or we will go down. No most of us believe NA should not have been sacked and in the short term at least will effect club and player morale. NA in my opinion could have taken us all the way to Europe given time. he created a stability and unity that deserved better treatment than he got. Yet going back to when NA was appointed, there is this nagging feeling of something said about appointing a manager to get us to the premiership and then a manager to take us up the premiership. Still got a feeling that in time NA will end up at M.U. or Liverpool. It seems everyone around the country from managers to fans rate NA, everyone that is other than Cortese. We are no longer a family club, in the first season after admin we won the paint pot, the next runners up and promotion, the next runners up and promotion. We never had a celebration for promotion, our owners never turned up for the last game to see it sealed and Cortese barely shook NA's hand cos it was considered failure we had not finished 1st. Cortese has never steered us wrong on anything yet. Yet Iike many i feel badly about this, the way it was done, to a man we felt deserved to be our manager. If Cortese has this wrong we are relegated. Until now I never doubted we would stay up. milton road
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11:16am Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about. Velleity
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11:24am Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

St Retford wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight.
Good points well made.

We shall see, I guess.
"We shall see, I guess"

That's the long and short of this whole sorry saga.

We shall indeed see. If in three years we're winning a place in Europe, we'll have seen. If we're propping up the Championship, we'll also have seen. Until then, it's all guesswork and uninformed speculation.

Cheer up, the sun rose this morning and you *all* (Wums, Cortese lovers and happy clappers) reached a personal best record of days alive. The chances are that by an amazing coincidence the same things will happen tomorrow as well...life's goos, look forwards not backwards. And always wear clean underpants in case you're knocked over by a bus.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]Teams in the situation you're describing here though are usually in a different situation to the one that Saints are in. The 'new manager effect' or whatever it's called, normally comes about after the sacking of someone who wasn't liked, was failing, lost the support of the squad or the supporters or had the team sitting at the bottom of the division. I don't think any of those apply here do they? Me, I'm trusting in the hope that reports of MP's tactical ability are true and that he really has done his homework on the team. Not that I approve of how he was employed of course. But he is here now and he is our manager so good luck to him and hold on tight.[/p][/quote]Good points well made. We shall see, I guess.[/p][/quote]"We shall see, I guess" That's the long and short of this whole sorry saga. We shall indeed see. If in three years we're winning a place in Europe, we'll have seen. If we're propping up the Championship, we'll also have seen. Until then, it's all guesswork and uninformed speculation. Cheer up, the sun rose this morning and you *all* (Wums, Cortese lovers and happy clappers) reached a personal best record of days alive. The chances are that by an amazing coincidence the same things will happen tomorrow as well...life's goos, look forwards not backwards. And always wear clean underpants in case you're knocked over by a bus. Velleity
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11:25am Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

*goos = good

Not in a strictly logical usage of the equals sign but you know what I mean.
*goos = good Not in a strictly logical usage of the equals sign but you know what I mean. Velleity
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11:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies. three halves
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11:39am Mon 21 Jan 13

up saints says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
10
i would not be worrying about portsmouth at this time we do not exactly have a steady ship
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: 10[/p][/quote]i would not be worrying about portsmouth at this time we do not exactly have a steady ship up saints
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11:46am Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

up saints wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
10
i would not be worrying about portsmouth at this time we do not exactly have a steady ship
I am most certainly not worrying about Portsmouth!

Neither are we sinking. What we are is in the Prem, not in the bottom three and have new players coming in.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: 10[/p][/quote]i would not be worrying about portsmouth at this time we do not exactly have a steady ship[/p][/quote]I am most certainly not worrying about Portsmouth! Neither are we sinking. What we are is in the Prem, not in the bottom three and have new players coming in. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:46am Mon 21 Jan 13

Confucious says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
There will be some empty seats because of the weather; because the match is televised and because Everton fans may also be thin on the ground for both the above reasons.

My niece was going to be absent so her empty chair would signify the spurning of her appeal to Nicola for support of the 'Gay Whales Against Discrimination By Left Handed Japanese Fish Cafe Waiters'.

As there will be so many unoccupied chairs anyway, she's decided to go rather than make a gesture that might be seen as rather empty.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]There will be some empty seats because of the weather; because the match is televised and because Everton fans may also be thin on the ground for both the above reasons. My niece was going to be absent so her empty chair would signify the spurning of her appeal to Nicola for support of the 'Gay Whales Against Discrimination By Left Handed Japanese Fish Cafe Waiters'. As there will be so many unoccupied chairs anyway, she's decided to go rather than make a gesture that might be seen as rather empty. Confucious
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11:49am Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement!
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:51am Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

I hope every Saints fan gets behind the team tonight and doesn't get distracted or worked up by the press and other fans, who we all know would secretly love us to implode and turn on our team.

One thing I can tell you is that, regardless of whether the vast majority of onlookers are outraged by Nigel's sacking, in three weeks they will be laughing at us for booing out own team, just as we've laughed at Blackburn and Chelsea fans for turning home games into away bankers for the opposition.

Essentially, we all wanted Nigel to stay, but we can either wallow in it and oversee a fall back to where we were or we can stand up, back the players and help them stay up for Marcus and Nigel.

They got us here, we can't just throw it away, unless we really want to feed ammunition to people who want to slag us off.

We have to stick by the team tonight regardless of how it goes. No singing of 'you don't know what you're doing' with every goal against or substitution or team selection.

At least we have a young, aspiring, progressive manager in place and, as Moyes said, like Laudrup, maybe he will unearth some Spanish gems like Michu for us.

One other thing to remember if you are going to be jumping on the player's and manager's back tonight at the earliest opportunity: we don't have an incredible record at home this season.

We haven't been rolling every team over, particularly not the best teams.

We may well have been torn apart by Everton regardless of who is in charge, so please give the guy, and essentially ourselves, a chance.

We all disagree with what's happened but it is like a refereeing mistake. It is gone, there is nothing we can do about it. We can either effectively lose control and get a man sent off or unite to help turn the injustice into a good end result.


Now is not the time for self harm, but if we really want to prove NC wrong, we know what the consequences are.

Ultimately, it is his responsibility if we go down, but we can't underestimate the role we will play in how things go from here.
I hope every Saints fan gets behind the team tonight and doesn't get distracted or worked up by the press and other fans, who we all know would secretly love us to implode and turn on our team. One thing I can tell you is that, regardless of whether the vast majority of onlookers are outraged by Nigel's sacking, in three weeks they will be laughing at us for booing out own team, just as we've laughed at Blackburn and Chelsea fans for turning home games into away bankers for the opposition. Essentially, we all wanted Nigel to stay, but we can either wallow in it and oversee a fall back to where we were or we can stand up, back the players and help them stay up for Marcus and Nigel. They got us here, we can't just throw it away, unless we really want to feed ammunition to people who want to slag us off. We have to stick by the team tonight regardless of how it goes. No singing of 'you don't know what you're doing' with every goal against or substitution or team selection. At least we have a young, aspiring, progressive manager in place and, as Moyes said, like Laudrup, maybe he will unearth some Spanish gems like Michu for us. One other thing to remember if you are going to be jumping on the player's and manager's back tonight at the earliest opportunity: we don't have an incredible record at home this season. We haven't been rolling every team over, particularly not the best teams. We may well have been torn apart by Everton regardless of who is in charge, so please give the guy, and essentially ourselves, a chance. We all disagree with what's happened but it is like a refereeing mistake. It is gone, there is nothing we can do about it. We can either effectively lose control and get a man sent off or unite to help turn the injustice into a good end result. Now is not the time for self harm, but if we really want to prove NC wrong, we know what the consequences are. Ultimately, it is his responsibility if we go down, but we can't underestimate the role we will play in how things go from here. SaintJD
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11:54am Mon 21 Jan 13

coxfordsaint says...

The trouble when managers are sacked is the lack of information, we only get to hear what they want us to hear.We dont know what type of relationship the manager and chairman had, the chairman has never come out publicly and stated how good NA has been we have only ever heard that NA is facing the sack whenever the chairman has been mentioned.
They may not have got on behind the scenes which is a distinct possibility and when that happens sometimes managers disappear regardless of the effect of the team. also we have not heard from many saints players who are shocked at what has happened, in fact nothing from the team so i guess they have been told to hush up by the almighty chairman lol.Gone are the days when all we used to talk about at football is the match , most talk nowadays is who the chairman has sacked / not got on with/ been to involved in transfers and on the pitch activity.
To be fair we have not seen this chairman involving himself with on the field affairs, well not in public anyway.If this was done a few months ago not to much would have been said, or if we were replacing NA with a well known manager with proven ability again not much would have been said.I think it is just the timing as everyone has said, and the unproven new manager who does not speak English.Most people would now expect the manager to take a couple of months to settle which might be a disaster for saints as we need the team to remain stable.Hopefully also we dont start having players handing in requests to leave now NA has gone..Good luck NA in whoever you manage you will do well.
Lets hope that this has no detrimental effect on the players and the the way we play
COYR 2-1 win tonight
The trouble when managers are sacked is the lack of information, we only get to hear what they want us to hear.We dont know what type of relationship the manager and chairman had, the chairman has never come out publicly and stated how good NA has been we have only ever heard that NA is facing the sack whenever the chairman has been mentioned. They may not have got on behind the scenes which is a distinct possibility and when that happens sometimes managers disappear regardless of the effect of the team. also we have not heard from many saints players who are shocked at what has happened, in fact nothing from the team so i guess they have been told to hush up by the almighty chairman lol.Gone are the days when all we used to talk about at football is the match , most talk nowadays is who the chairman has sacked / not got on with/ been to involved in transfers and on the pitch activity. To be fair we have not seen this chairman involving himself with on the field affairs, well not in public anyway.If this was done a few months ago not to much would have been said, or if we were replacing NA with a well known manager with proven ability again not much would have been said.I think it is just the timing as everyone has said, and the unproven new manager who does not speak English.Most people would now expect the manager to take a couple of months to settle which might be a disaster for saints as we need the team to remain stable.Hopefully also we dont start having players handing in requests to leave now NA has gone..Good luck NA in whoever you manage you will do well. Lets hope that this has no detrimental effect on the players and the the way we play COYR 2-1 win tonight coxfordsaint
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11:55am Mon 21 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
I doubt your integrety. Would love to be proved wrong, though!

Once or twice, we read on here about a hard-up fan who can't afford tickets. So, if you are for real, why not offer your seat for the reaiming home fixtures to any unemployed or struggling local Saints fans who would love to go but simply can't afford it?

I'm sure the Echo could help with this and, in my estimations, you'd go from being a WUM with nothing to contribute to a hero for whom I'd gladly buy a beer.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]I doubt your integrety. Would love to be proved wrong, though! Once or twice, we read on here about a hard-up fan who can't afford tickets. So, if you are for real, why not offer your seat for the reaiming home fixtures to any unemployed or struggling local Saints fans who would love to go but simply can't afford it? I'm sure the Echo could help with this and, in my estimations, you'd go from being a WUM with nothing to contribute to a hero for whom I'd gladly buy a beer. Strasbourg Saint
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12:02pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all.

Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
[quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. St Retford
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12:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

mikeyg2108 says...

St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
I hope so too because Reed is the real problem.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]I hope so too because Reed is the real problem. mikeyg2108
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12:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Btw, Le Tiss has just tweeted we should all get behind the team tonight.

Amen.
Btw, Le Tiss has just tweeted we should all get behind the team tonight. Amen. St Retford
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12:08pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

mikeyg2108 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
I hope so too because Reed is the real problem.
C'mon, some of his solo stuff's not that bad...


(I take your point though - I think that whether you agree with this decision or not it was as much to do with Les Reed as it was with Cortese. Les appears to have escaped any sort of responsibility though, doesn't he?)
[quote][p][bold]mikeyg2108[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]I hope so too because Reed is the real problem.[/p][/quote]C'mon, some of his solo stuff's not that bad... (I take your point though - I think that whether you agree with this decision or not it was as much to do with Les Reed as it was with Cortese. Les appears to have escaped any sort of responsibility though, doesn't he?) St Retford
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12:11pm Mon 21 Jan 13

ozso45saint says...

I don't agree with the sacking, or the timing or the apparent way it was handled.

Having said that I'm a saints fan and the team need everyone's support tonight and at every game between now and the end of the season.

We have a lot more genuine fans than Chelsea have (proportionately) and we don't want home games to become like Stanford bridge has which has surely contributed to their recent dismal home form.

We don't have the luxury of Chelsea's squad and need to stay in this league.

This situation isn't the new guys or the player's fault so they deserve 100% backing from now on like they have had under Adkins.

Fair play to Nigel he did he great job and I wish him all the best in the future and thank him for his excellent work.

Mr Cortese no doubt has big ambitions for the club and he will stand or fall by his decisions.

Either way do saints fans want to see him fail or the team succeed!

I know what I want! COYR! Onwards and hopefully upwards!
I don't agree with the sacking, or the timing or the apparent way it was handled. Having said that I'm a saints fan and the team need everyone's support tonight and at every game between now and the end of the season. We have a lot more genuine fans than Chelsea have (proportionately) and we don't want home games to become like Stanford bridge has which has surely contributed to their recent dismal home form. We don't have the luxury of Chelsea's squad and need to stay in this league. This situation isn't the new guys or the player's fault so they deserve 100% backing from now on like they have had under Adkins. Fair play to Nigel he did he great job and I wish him all the best in the future and thank him for his excellent work. Mr Cortese no doubt has big ambitions for the club and he will stand or fall by his decisions. Either way do saints fans want to see him fail or the team succeed! I know what I want! COYR! Onwards and hopefully upwards! ozso45saint
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12:12pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
fairdinkum wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)
Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairdinkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.[/p][/quote]Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)[/p][/quote]Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something... St Retford
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12:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
Whether people are there or not is minor to the issue that those that are there should leave any protests they may wish to be heard until AFTER the game... surely saints fans are not stupid enough to protest during the match. We are not as low as chelsea.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]Whether people are there or not is minor to the issue that those that are there should leave any protests they may wish to be heard until AFTER the game... surely saints fans are not stupid enough to protest during the match. We are not as low as chelsea. MGRA
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12:17pm Mon 21 Jan 13

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

St Retford wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
fairdinkum wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)
Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...
And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairdinkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.[/p][/quote]Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)[/p][/quote]Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...[/p][/quote]And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know. ramptonfromsouthampton
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12:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

mbetts says...

Interesting times ahead, whatever happens it'll be different. Really hope we get off to a winning start coz I hate Everton! Have done since 1984!
Interesting times ahead, whatever happens it'll be different. Really hope we get off to a winning start coz I hate Everton! Have done since 1984! mbetts
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12:25pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Drunken Proletariat says...

mikeyg2108 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
I hope so too because Reed is the real problem.
I suspected on Friday that Reed could well be Southampton FCs fifth columnist. I have serious question re: the board members at SFC who are Brendan McGlinchey and Lyndsey Hyde? As far as I can tell only NC, LR & TP are real any help chaps?

Also re MPs youth policy does Southampton FC have any money? All this talk of the academy smacks a little of when Jan & Mark talked about playing the 'youth' cos there really was nothing else.
[quote][p][bold]mikeyg2108[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]I hope so too because Reed is the real problem.[/p][/quote]I suspected on Friday that Reed could well be Southampton FCs fifth columnist. I have serious question re: the board members at SFC who are Brendan McGlinchey and Lyndsey Hyde? As far as I can tell only NC, LR & TP are real any help chaps? Also re MPs youth policy does Southampton FC have any money? All this talk of the academy smacks a little of when Jan & Mark talked about playing the 'youth' cos there really was nothing else. Drunken Proletariat
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12:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

boilerman says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
I don't necessarily have a problem with NA being sacked (although I do think it was a bad idea, and NA could have turned out to be a great manager for us long-term), but my main issue is with the manner of the sacking.

I understand what people are saying about NC having the best intentions for the club, etc. but that doesn't mean you have to carry out your business in such an unprincipled way.

It could have been handled much better, and I think that's most Saints fans' issue with it all.

I can't imagine Markus dealing with it this way. I CAN imagine him buying into NC's vision that a new manager is required, but he wouldn't have been so disrespectful to a good manager.

I see nothing wrong with fans chanting Nigel's name before the match, showing our support for a great Saints manager and thanking him for what he did. But then we need to support the team as it is now, and the new manager, regardless of the poorly managed transition.
My sentiments exactly, no matter what has gone on and what we as fans feel Nigel deserved to be treated with with a bit more respect.
It seems that Cortese doesn't know how to act in a decent way.
It leaves me with a gut feeling that southampton FC and I include the fans in that have let Nigel down, after he has given us so much to smile about in the last 2 and a half years.
I really wish Nigel luck and hope he goes on to better things.
I think the rest of the footballing world are waiting for us to fall on our arses, when we as fans don't deserve that, all of this because of the appaling way this has been handled.
I will be chanting his name tonight, but during the game getting behind the team,
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: I don't necessarily have a problem with NA being sacked (although I do think it was a bad idea, and NA could have turned out to be a great manager for us long-term), but my main issue is with the manner of the sacking. I understand what people are saying about NC having the best intentions for the club, etc. but that doesn't mean you have to carry out your business in such an unprincipled way. It could have been handled much better, and I think that's most Saints fans' issue with it all. I can't imagine Markus dealing with it this way. I CAN imagine him buying into NC's vision that a new manager is required, but he wouldn't have been so disrespectful to a good manager. I see nothing wrong with fans chanting Nigel's name before the match, showing our support for a great Saints manager and thanking him for what he did. But then we need to support the team as it is now, and the new manager, regardless of the poorly managed transition.[/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly, no matter what has gone on and what we as fans feel Nigel deserved to be treated with with a bit more respect. It seems that Cortese doesn't know how to act in a decent way. It leaves me with a gut feeling that southampton FC and I include the fans in that have let Nigel down, after he has given us so much to smile about in the last 2 and a half years. I really wish Nigel luck and hope he goes on to better things. I think the rest of the footballing world are waiting for us to fall on our arses, when we as fans don't deserve that, all of this because of the appaling way this has been handled. I will be chanting his name tonight, but during the game getting behind the team, boilerman
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12:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

willygetaway says...

St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all.

Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
I agree totally, a multi billionaire buys into Saints with 18 month to live
(WHY WHO KNOWS) , i like to think he was hearing the call from the mighty saints.
and his dream was are dream to have the best **** club. i still think he deserves a stand named after him at the very least.
the fact is still if i knew i was dying who would i put at the helm to keep this thing alive after i,m gone ??

Nicola Cortese

nuff said
i still feel as if we collectively have taken old shep out into the parking lot and shot him, with everybody watching
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]I agree totally, a multi billionaire buys into Saints with 18 month to live (WHY WHO KNOWS) , i like to think he was hearing the call from the mighty saints. and his dream was are dream to have the best **** club. i still think he deserves a stand named after him at the very least. the fact is still if i knew i was dying who would i put at the helm to keep this thing alive after i,m gone ?? Nicola Cortese nuff said i still feel as if we collectively have taken old shep out into the parking lot and shot him, with everybody watching willygetaway
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12:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
St Retford wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt


on
wrote:
fairdinkum wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)
Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...
And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know.
Apparently she (as so many do) has become a fiendish right-winger in her old age. She might be useful to have on the bench in case Punch takes a knock.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairdinkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.[/p][/quote]Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)[/p][/quote]Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...[/p][/quote]And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know.[/p][/quote]Apparently she (as so many do) has become a fiendish right-winger in her old age. She might be useful to have on the bench in case Punch takes a knock. St Retford
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12:33pm Mon 21 Jan 13

RedArmy1 says...

MP MUST ENSURE ... that Everton's tactical set-up does not rip through our midfield like at their place.

COME ON GASTON ...

COME ON RICKIE ...

COME ON PUNCH ..

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR
MP MUST ENSURE ... that Everton's tactical set-up does not rip through our midfield like at their place. COME ON GASTON ... COME ON RICKIE ... COME ON PUNCH .. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR RedArmy1
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12:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miltonarcher says...

He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could.

NC, you have got it wrong this time.
He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could. NC, you have got it wrong this time. miltonarcher
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12:37pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintJD says...

St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all.

Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Obviously this is only guesswork, but I agree with you.

My suspicion in the summer was that Markus left Cortese with a blueprint of how he wanted him to take things forward. I believe that blueprint involved focusing on flair over resilience and that this was reflected in our unwillingness to spend much on our defence.

Face it, Marcus employed Cortese and trusted him with this highly expensive project. He knew what he was like as a person more than anyone and he obviously approved.

An employee's job, no matter how high ranking, is to please his boss and I'm sure that came into play with the Pardew sacking. Can't imagine Markus was outraged or surprised by it or that he didn't push the idea.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Obviously this is only guesswork, but I agree with you. My suspicion in the summer was that Markus left Cortese with a blueprint of how he wanted him to take things forward. I believe that blueprint involved focusing on flair over resilience and that this was reflected in our unwillingness to spend much on our defence. Face it, Marcus employed Cortese and trusted him with this highly expensive project. He knew what he was like as a person more than anyone and he obviously approved. An employee's job, no matter how high ranking, is to please his boss and I'm sure that came into play with the Pardew sacking. Can't imagine Markus was outraged or surprised by it or that he didn't push the idea. SaintJD
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12:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone.
St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone. OSPREYSAINT
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12:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone.
keeps giving what ?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone.[/p][/quote]keeps giving what ? MGRA
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12:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Swissowned says...

carllewis1966 wrote:
As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.
Spot on. Cheers pal. Unfortunately many of those that you are referring to seem to have just appeared out of the woodwork as many are usernames I have not seen before.

Where we're all these people with the pro NC/anti NA comments before the sacking? Still in the vast minority keeping their heads down that's where!

I think it's clear the vast majority of us are disappointed in this decision. Time will tell if it is another masterstroke by NC. Some have pointed out that NC has made good albeit tough decisions so far and got everything right. Well, we all make mistakes no matter how good we are. I fear that this could well be NC's first major one. I hope for the sake of our great club that I am wrong.

As I said, time will tell. I will be behind the team 100% tonight as ever, but I stand by my opinions and I will have no shame in exerting my right as a fan (and season ticket holder) to demonstrate my feelings over this decision. It doesn't make me any less of a fan. I'm entitled to vent my opinion as is everyone else. I will not be affected or deterred by those that say I shouldn't.

I will say again however, just to make it clear to any fool waiting to jump all over my comments. I WILL still be 100% behind the team tonight.

COYR (and "one nigel Adkins!")
:)
[quote][p][bold]carllewis1966[/bold] wrote: As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Cheers pal. Unfortunately many of those that you are referring to seem to have just appeared out of the woodwork as many are usernames I have not seen before. Where we're all these people with the pro NC/anti NA comments before the sacking? Still in the vast minority keeping their heads down that's where! I think it's clear the vast majority of us are disappointed in this decision. Time will tell if it is another masterstroke by NC. Some have pointed out that NC has made good albeit tough decisions so far and got everything right. Well, we all make mistakes no matter how good we are. I fear that this could well be NC's first major one. I hope for the sake of our great club that I am wrong. As I said, time will tell. I will be behind the team 100% tonight as ever, but I stand by my opinions and I will have no shame in exerting my right as a fan (and season ticket holder) to demonstrate my feelings over this decision. It doesn't make me any less of a fan. I'm entitled to vent my opinion as is everyone else. I will not be affected or deterred by those that say I shouldn't. I will say again however, just to make it clear to any fool waiting to jump all over my comments. I WILL still be 100% behind the team tonight. COYR (and "one nigel Adkins!") :) Swissowned
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12:43pm Mon 21 Jan 13

boilerman says...

willygetaway wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here.
Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone.
Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible.
Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections.
Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White.

Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all.

Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
I agree totally, a multi billionaire buys into Saints with 18 month to live
(WHY WHO KNOWS) , i like to think he was hearing the call from the mighty saints.
and his dream was are dream to have the best **** club. i still think he deserves a stand named after him at the very least.
the fact is still if i knew i was dying who would i put at the helm to keep this thing alive after i,m gone ??

Nicola Cortese

nuff said
i still feel as if we collectively have taken old shep out into the parking lot and shot him, with everybody watching
Like the comment about old shep, thats the underlying feeling that I am left with.
It must be because deep down we are decent people who have standards about how other people should be treated.
For a couple of seasons now fans have moaned about the way Cortese treats them, me included.
Yet when he treats a guy who has done so much good and who acted with great humility and dignity in such an appaling way because it is in the best interest of the club then that's OK.
It does make you think about the way football is going.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]I agree totally, a multi billionaire buys into Saints with 18 month to live (WHY WHO KNOWS) , i like to think he was hearing the call from the mighty saints. and his dream was are dream to have the best **** club. i still think he deserves a stand named after him at the very least. the fact is still if i knew i was dying who would i put at the helm to keep this thing alive after i,m gone ?? Nicola Cortese nuff said i still feel as if we collectively have taken old shep out into the parking lot and shot him, with everybody watching[/p][/quote]Like the comment about old shep, thats the underlying feeling that I am left with. It must be because deep down we are decent people who have standards about how other people should be treated. For a couple of seasons now fans have moaned about the way Cortese treats them, me included. Yet when he treats a guy who has done so much good and who acted with great humility and dignity in such an appaling way because it is in the best interest of the club then that's OK. It does make you think about the way football is going. boilerman
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12:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

waynem7 says...

Firstly i would like to thank nigel adkins and the back room staff for all they did for sfc we the fans will always be grateful. i do hope that cortese did sack him in the correct manor and not as reported in the press, although i am sad to see adkins gone i do think that cortese has done this for the good of southampton football club, some of the signings that were made in the summer were not of prem quality, jay rod, mayuka, boruc we spent so much time trying to convince gaston to sign that we seem to have forgot that we might need some defenders. we spent nearly £30 million and sit just outside the relagation zone with some tough fixtures coming up. so maybe time for a change we all were not happy when pardew went and when adkins arrived alot of fans were not happy but look how that turned out now mauricio has arrived and with backing from some good managers in spain who know him and the spanish media seem to like him too so good luck to him he deserves full backing from all the fans, i dont see the point in protesting tonight it wont bring back adkins and showing cortese that we are not happy will do nothing either alot of people who are on here moaning about cortese what has he done really?? not let us down with any decision he has made everything he has done is to better southampton football club he is trusted by the owners and we should trust him too. good luck tonight COYR
Firstly i would like to thank nigel adkins and the back room staff for all they did for sfc we the fans will always be grateful. i do hope that cortese did sack him in the correct manor and not as reported in the press, although i am sad to see adkins gone i do think that cortese has done this for the good of southampton football club, some of the signings that were made in the summer were not of prem quality, jay rod, mayuka, boruc we spent so much time trying to convince gaston to sign that we seem to have forgot that we might need some defenders. we spent nearly £30 million and sit just outside the relagation zone with some tough fixtures coming up. so maybe time for a change we all were not happy when pardew went and when adkins arrived alot of fans were not happy but look how that turned out now mauricio has arrived and with backing from some good managers in spain who know him and the spanish media seem to like him too so good luck to him he deserves full backing from all the fans, i dont see the point in protesting tonight it wont bring back adkins and showing cortese that we are not happy will do nothing either alot of people who are on here moaning about cortese what has he done really?? not let us down with any decision he has made everything he has done is to better southampton football club he is trusted by the owners and we should trust him too. good luck tonight COYR waynem7
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12:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

miltonarcher wrote:
He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could.

NC, you have got it wrong this time.
The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football".
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could. NC, you have got it wrong this time.[/p][/quote]The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football". OSPREYSAINT
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12:50pm Mon 21 Jan 13

boilerman says...

waynem7 wrote:
Firstly i would like to thank nigel adkins and the back room staff for all they did for sfc we the fans will always be grateful. i do hope that cortese did sack him in the correct manor and not as reported in the press, although i am sad to see adkins gone i do think that cortese has done this for the good of southampton football club, some of the signings that were made in the summer were not of prem quality, jay rod, mayuka, boruc we spent so much time trying to convince gaston to sign that we seem to have forgot that we might need some defenders. we spent nearly £30 million and sit just outside the relagation zone with some tough fixtures coming up. so maybe time for a change we all were not happy when pardew went and when adkins arrived alot of fans were not happy but look how that turned out now mauricio has arrived and with backing from some good managers in spain who know him and the spanish media seem to like him too so good luck to him he deserves full backing from all the fans, i dont see the point in protesting tonight it wont bring back adkins and showing cortese that we are not happy will do nothing either alot of people who are on here moaning about cortese what has he done really?? not let us down with any decision he has made everything he has done is to better southampton football club he is trusted by the owners and we should trust him too. good luck tonight COYR
Who identified these players and whos'e idea was it to pay over the top prices ?
From the rumour mill all season it seams to have been Cortese pulling the strings.
A bit like Lowe did to Strachan, which is why he threw his dolly out of the pram at Fulham and said he was off.
I hope one day Nigel will be allowed to spill the beans on his time at Saints.
[quote][p][bold]waynem7[/bold] wrote: Firstly i would like to thank nigel adkins and the back room staff for all they did for sfc we the fans will always be grateful. i do hope that cortese did sack him in the correct manor and not as reported in the press, although i am sad to see adkins gone i do think that cortese has done this for the good of southampton football club, some of the signings that were made in the summer were not of prem quality, jay rod, mayuka, boruc we spent so much time trying to convince gaston to sign that we seem to have forgot that we might need some defenders. we spent nearly £30 million and sit just outside the relagation zone with some tough fixtures coming up. so maybe time for a change we all were not happy when pardew went and when adkins arrived alot of fans were not happy but look how that turned out now mauricio has arrived and with backing from some good managers in spain who know him and the spanish media seem to like him too so good luck to him he deserves full backing from all the fans, i dont see the point in protesting tonight it wont bring back adkins and showing cortese that we are not happy will do nothing either alot of people who are on here moaning about cortese what has he done really?? not let us down with any decision he has made everything he has done is to better southampton football club he is trusted by the owners and we should trust him too. good luck tonight COYR[/p][/quote]Who identified these players and whos'e idea was it to pay over the top prices ? From the rumour mill all season it seams to have been Cortese pulling the strings. A bit like Lowe did to Strachan, which is why he threw his dolly out of the pram at Fulham and said he was off. I hope one day Nigel will be allowed to spill the beans on his time at Saints. boilerman
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12:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

El Santo says...

three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
It has been a risky move. It it doesn't pay off, people will stop attending the games (understandably so, in my opinion) feeling that we were betrayed.
Nothing that cannot be cured with good results, but we all know that good results are a bit of a random thing... very risky move indeed!
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]It has been a risky move. It it doesn't pay off, people will stop attending the games (understandably so, in my opinion) feeling that we were betrayed. Nothing that cannot be cured with good results, but we all know that good results are a bit of a random thing... very risky move indeed! El Santo
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12:57pm Mon 21 Jan 13

El Santo says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed?
He must have...
Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)
we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell.
New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again.
Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away.
I love Nigel too - it's hard not to because he's a lovable kind of guy.

Equally, mind, I also have the utmost respect for Nicola in his determination to do what is in the best interests of this football club. Maybe he's moving too fast for some supporters, but I'd rather have a guy determined to drag us in the right direction and who backs his judgement up with financial investment than I would someone who considers our natural status to be relegation-dodgers.

Sometimes he's going to upset people but I don't think he really cares so long as his decisions pay off. As a wise man once said, faint heart never made an omelette for fair lady without breaking eggs. Or something like that...
Retford, sacking a manager is not new, even after good results (winning a Champions League, escaping relegation).
But this is the first time I see this in the MIDDLE of the season.
You usually wait until the end. He could have hired Pochettino now to start in June, if he wanted. Hos manners have been horrible, and, yes, I think manners and character are as important as wins. That's why Saints are a better club than ManChitty or Chelski, for example...
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: NC must have considered the disruption factor. If he removes Nigel at this stage of the season, could the team keep going for a few weeks using its own momentum, characters in the dressing room and coaching staff until Mau is up to speed? He must have...[/p][/quote]Maybe he factored in the new manager effect ahead of an incredibly tricky run of games? Teams normally up their game for a new gaffer, and if we can do that over the next few weeks we might take more points that we otherwise would have. (A win at Old Trafford wouldn't half get the doubters on side.)[/p][/quote]we have fequently been done over by teams with new managers, it can turn the form book upside down.. Brighton rings a bell. New gaffer means any complacent players have to prove themselves again. Whilst I loved Nigel, he was often a little too annoyingly optmistic and a yes man. I sometimes wanted him to say that we got turned over, I should not have taken Rickie off and we kept givng the ball away.[/p][/quote]I love Nigel too - it's hard not to because he's a lovable kind of guy. Equally, mind, I also have the utmost respect for Nicola in his determination to do what is in the best interests of this football club. Maybe he's moving too fast for some supporters, but I'd rather have a guy determined to drag us in the right direction and who backs his judgement up with financial investment than I would someone who considers our natural status to be relegation-dodgers. Sometimes he's going to upset people but I don't think he really cares so long as his decisions pay off. As a wise man once said, faint heart never made an omelette for fair lady without breaking eggs. Or something like that...[/p][/quote]Retford, sacking a manager is not new, even after good results (winning a Champions League, escaping relegation). But this is the first time I see this in the MIDDLE of the season. You usually wait until the end. He could have hired Pochettino now to start in June, if he wanted. Hos manners have been horrible, and, yes, I think manners and character are as important as wins. That's why Saints are a better club than ManChitty or Chelski, for example... El Santo
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1:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

Im reserving my judgement on the new fella until the end of Febuary.
I still think the manner in which Cortese sacked Nigel was poor and reflected badly on both him and the club, and I will always support Southampton
Im reserving my judgement on the new fella until the end of Febuary. I still think the manner in which Cortese sacked Nigel was poor and reflected badly on both him and the club, and I will always support Southampton mack chinnon
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1:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
I doubt your integrety. Would love to be proved wrong, though!

Once or twice, we read on here about a hard-up fan who can't afford tickets. So, if you are for real, why not offer your seat for the reaiming home fixtures to any unemployed or struggling local Saints fans who would love to go but simply can't afford it?

I'm sure the Echo could help with this and, in my estimations, you'd go from being a WUM with nothing to contribute to a hero for whom I'd gladly buy a beer.
His seat is probably one those seats that gets covered with netting to segregate the away fans at every home game.....????
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]I doubt your integrety. Would love to be proved wrong, though! Once or twice, we read on here about a hard-up fan who can't afford tickets. So, if you are for real, why not offer your seat for the reaiming home fixtures to any unemployed or struggling local Saints fans who would love to go but simply can't afford it? I'm sure the Echo could help with this and, in my estimations, you'd go from being a WUM with nothing to contribute to a hero for whom I'd gladly buy a beer.[/p][/quote]His seat is probably one those seats that gets covered with netting to segregate the away fans at every home game.....???? J7junctionseven
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1:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miltonarcher says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could.

NC, you have got it wrong this time.
The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football".
Aaah the old "The language of football" cliche. Oh so the interpreter is a good tactician, are you serious? We are now looked upon as a joke club, quite rightly in my opinion. You cant manage or motivate English speaking players effectively if you cant communicate directly with them. Ask Copello or Ramos.

I agree the result tonight is probably not an indication however, this appointment is doomed to fail.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could. NC, you have got it wrong this time.[/p][/quote]The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football".[/p][/quote]Aaah the old "The language of football" cliche. Oh so the interpreter is a good tactician, are you serious? We are now looked upon as a joke club, quite rightly in my opinion. You cant manage or motivate English speaking players effectively if you cant communicate directly with them. Ask Copello or Ramos. I agree the result tonight is probably not an indication however, this appointment is doomed to fail. miltonarcher
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1:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

St Retford wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

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St Retford wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt



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fairdinkum wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us.

But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.
Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.
Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)
Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...
And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know.
Apparently she (as so many do) has become a fiendish right-winger in her old age. She might be useful to have on the bench in case Punch takes a knock.
LMAO!!!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairdinkum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Espanyol produced FIFTEEN internationals in the best national team ever assembled? That's amazing and clearly MP has a lot to offer us. But, equally, that side of things isn't really the job of the 'first team coach' in the Saints set up, is it? MP's job will be to manage the first team, no? Maybe he's been brought in with the long-term aim of ultimately replacing Lou Reed (and I know that's not his real name) as director of football? I hope so anyway.[/p][/quote]Nice One. Lou Reed for Director of Matchday Music. Something for all moods, but especially Perfect Day to send us home after every good result. Royalties waived.[/p][/quote]Hehe, well if Lou Reed's matchday special is 'Transformer' perhaps he can get Nicola to do a special rendition of 'Make Up' to show he does actually have a heart and isn't really the bad guy. (I decided to ignore the first track, 'Vicious' for obvious reasons...)[/p][/quote]Erm, something about heroin and bumming, something, something...[/p][/quote]And, er something from the Velvet's drummer, Mo Tucker about our centre back pairing - 'Half Japanese'... yes, very obscure I know.[/p][/quote]Apparently she (as so many do) has become a fiendish right-winger in her old age. She might be useful to have on the bench in case Punch takes a knock.[/p][/quote]LMAO!!! ramptonfromsouthampton
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1:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

tinas says...

St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster. tinas
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1:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

roverme says...

I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this.
Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out!
I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this. Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out! roverme
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1:24pm Mon 21 Jan 13

El Santo says...

roverme wrote:
I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this.
Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out!
Wait, wait, wait, waaaaaitt! I am also disappointed with the appointment... and the way it was done. But I still hope it turns out OK and that NC proves me every bit wrong.
There is so much more to Saints than just the chairman and the manager. We still have the best Academy in the country, we still have the NUMBER ONE ENGLISH STRIKER, we still contribute to the U-21 team... we still have the best fan support in the WORLD... let's not overreact, please?
[quote][p][bold]roverme[/bold] wrote: I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this. Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out![/p][/quote]Wait, wait, wait, waaaaaitt! I am also disappointed with the appointment... and the way it was done. But I still hope it turns out OK and that NC proves me every bit wrong. There is so much more to Saints than just the chairman and the manager. We still have the best Academy in the country, we still have the NUMBER ONE ENGLISH STRIKER, we still contribute to the U-21 team... we still have the best fan support in the WORLD... let's not overreact, please? El Santo
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1:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

angus mc coatup says...

people where asking yesterday about the the new coaching team set up.so If you'e interested It's on the o/s site.with some background details on each coach.
people where asking yesterday about the the new coaching team set up.so If you'e interested It's on the o/s site.with some background details on each coach. angus mc coatup
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1:28pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Taoboy says...

What worries me is the cowardly way that NC let Adkins find out from tv.
Are we dealing with a man such as Markus who knew that unpleasant news can be given sensitively which enhances power. NC lacks class, I fear that the idea is to sell Saints at a top dollar with a purchased solution.
The Football fates may not share that vision. People get their just deserts but not always straight away. Lowe took years to reduce us. At least I feel it is not in NCs interest to damage his brand. We need our stripes back next season, and fully expect another Italian designed strip which of course is NCs style,!
Without care NC could very easily alienate people like me who loved Saints for their character.
I could not follow a team that cheats or is thuggish. Saw all of that in the sixties and seventies. I do like to see real skill outplay thuggishness, like our best players have always done.
I'll always be a saint yet I reserve my right to support the club financially depending on if I think that they are worth it. Under Wupert I did not go to a match for eight years because it was obvious that his project must fail.
I don't feel that way about NC yet. However what a gamble. If he took on the bad guy image for the good of the club it might work, but if he acted arrogantly time will find him and Saints out.
I will give tonight a miss, coz it's along way in bad weather, I'm not boycotting the match but still annoyed enough to feel indifferent to making the effort.
Never the less Come on you Saints.
What worries me is the cowardly way that NC let Adkins find out from tv. Are we dealing with a man such as Markus who knew that unpleasant news can be given sensitively which enhances power. NC lacks class, I fear that the idea is to sell Saints at a top dollar with a purchased solution. The Football fates may not share that vision. People get their just deserts but not always straight away. Lowe took years to reduce us. At least I feel it is not in NCs interest to damage his brand. We need our stripes back next season, and fully expect another Italian designed strip which of course is NCs style,! Without care NC could very easily alienate people like me who loved Saints for their character. I could not follow a team that cheats or is thuggish. Saw all of that in the sixties and seventies. I do like to see real skill outplay thuggishness, like our best players have always done. I'll always be a saint yet I reserve my right to support the club financially depending on if I think that they are worth it. Under Wupert I did not go to a match for eight years because it was obvious that his project must fail. I don't feel that way about NC yet. However what a gamble. If he took on the bad guy image for the good of the club it might work, but if he acted arrogantly time will find him and Saints out. I will give tonight a miss, coz it's along way in bad weather, I'm not boycotting the match but still annoyed enough to feel indifferent to making the effort. Never the less Come on you Saints. Taoboy
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1:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
[quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward. St Retford
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1:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Taoboy wrote:
What worries me is the cowardly way that NC let Adkins find out from tv.
Are we dealing with a man such as Markus who knew that unpleasant news can be given sensitively which enhances power. NC lacks class, I fear that the idea is to sell Saints at a top dollar with a purchased solution.
The Football fates may not share that vision. People get their just deserts but not always straight away. Lowe took years to reduce us. At least I feel it is not in NCs interest to damage his brand. We need our stripes back next season, and fully expect another Italian designed strip which of course is NCs style,!
Without care NC could very easily alienate people like me who loved Saints for their character.
I could not follow a team that cheats or is thuggish. Saw all of that in the sixties and seventies. I do like to see real skill outplay thuggishness, like our best players have always done.
I'll always be a saint yet I reserve my right to support the club financially depending on if I think that they are worth it. Under Wupert I did not go to a match for eight years because it was obvious that his project must fail.
I don't feel that way about NC yet. However what a gamble. If he took on the bad guy image for the good of the club it might work, but if he acted arrogantly time will find him and Saints out.
I will give tonight a miss, coz it's along way in bad weather, I'm not boycotting the match but still annoyed enough to feel indifferent to making the effort.
Never the less Come on you Saints.
Is there any evidence that Nigel found out about this through TV? It seems unlikely.
[quote][p][bold]Taoboy[/bold] wrote: What worries me is the cowardly way that NC let Adkins find out from tv. Are we dealing with a man such as Markus who knew that unpleasant news can be given sensitively which enhances power. NC lacks class, I fear that the idea is to sell Saints at a top dollar with a purchased solution. The Football fates may not share that vision. People get their just deserts but not always straight away. Lowe took years to reduce us. At least I feel it is not in NCs interest to damage his brand. We need our stripes back next season, and fully expect another Italian designed strip which of course is NCs style,! Without care NC could very easily alienate people like me who loved Saints for their character. I could not follow a team that cheats or is thuggish. Saw all of that in the sixties and seventies. I do like to see real skill outplay thuggishness, like our best players have always done. I'll always be a saint yet I reserve my right to support the club financially depending on if I think that they are worth it. Under Wupert I did not go to a match for eight years because it was obvious that his project must fail. I don't feel that way about NC yet. However what a gamble. If he took on the bad guy image for the good of the club it might work, but if he acted arrogantly time will find him and Saints out. I will give tonight a miss, coz it's along way in bad weather, I'm not boycotting the match but still annoyed enough to feel indifferent to making the effort. Never the less Come on you Saints.[/p][/quote]Is there any evidence that Nigel found out about this through TV? It seems unlikely. St Retford
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1:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

right back in the bar says...

miltonarcher wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could.

NC, you have got it wrong this time.
The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football".
Aaah the old "The language of football" cliche. Oh so the interpreter is a good tactician, are you serious? We are now looked upon as a joke club, quite rightly in my opinion. You cant manage or motivate English speaking players effectively if you cant communicate directly with them. Ask Copello or Ramos.

I agree the result tonight is probably not an indication however, this appointment is doomed to fail.
ere, ere.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: He cant speak English. How will he communicate with the players? This is a joke appointment, it wont work. I dont care how good he is at developing Spanish youngsters, he wont be able to motivate in the same way NA could. NC, you have got it wrong this time.[/p][/quote]The language of football is pretty much the same worldwide, we have an interpreter who I am told is a good tactician himself, we have several players that speak the lingo too. Tonights game is too soon to see any real influence, tonights team is Nigels work and should be appreciated for that, only time will tell whether MoPo can hack it. Say what you like, the options are you are spot on, you are half right, or you got it wrong and don't you feel like a clot? As 'Sir' Nige would say "That's football".[/p][/quote]Aaah the old "The language of football" cliche. Oh so the interpreter is a good tactician, are you serious? We are now looked upon as a joke club, quite rightly in my opinion. You cant manage or motivate English speaking players effectively if you cant communicate directly with them. Ask Copello or Ramos. I agree the result tonight is probably not an indication however, this appointment is doomed to fail.[/p][/quote]ere, ere. right back in the bar
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1:55pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray. OSPREYSAINT
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2:02pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.
If you run Firefox you can get a flash blocker that gives you the option to play the ad or not.

I remember the particular frustration of the McDonalds advert!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.[/p][/quote]If you run Firefox you can get a flash blocker that gives you the option to play the ad or not. I remember the particular frustration of the McDonalds advert! Jesus_02
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2:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
nicola i think his panicking if we lose the next 3 .and not take action .the window will be shut ,and he did not trust adkins with the cash after august ,so he had to do it now ,the window shuts on the 31st.after that you can not add to the squad ,so he must of made the decision thinking about that .ok we had done better but stiil close to the bottom ,it may well be who we do buy now that may decide the new managers fate ,but he knows he is under pressure from a ruthless chairman ,but is this not similar to the dutch revolution we had under lowe .weve been down this road before
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]nicola i think his panicking if we lose the next 3 .and not take action .the window will be shut ,and he did not trust adkins with the cash after august ,so he had to do it now ,the window shuts on the 31st.after that you can not add to the squad ,so he must of made the decision thinking about that .ok we had done better but stiil close to the bottom ,it may well be who we do buy now that may decide the new managers fate ,but he knows he is under pressure from a ruthless chairman ,but is this not similar to the dutch revolution we had under lowe .weve been down this road before saintkenny
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2:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I think that the whole ground, directors included, should stand before kick off and sing a couple of verses of One Nigel Adkins. Then in the man's own words we draw a line under it and move on. To do it again would have connotations to it which would vary depending on whether we had won, drawn or lost - either way it would be negative.
I think that the whole ground, directors included, should stand before kick off and sing a couple of verses of One Nigel Adkins. Then in the man's own words we draw a line under it and move on. To do it again would have connotations to it which would vary depending on whether we had won, drawn or lost - either way it would be negative. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

I was thinking the other day we have never had a foreign manager completely forgot about the Dutch duo it's best to just wipe that season out.
I was thinking the other day we have never had a foreign manager completely forgot about the Dutch duo it's best to just wipe that season out. SO50 Saint
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2:10pm Mon 21 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

roverme wrote:
I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this.
Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out!
See ya then. Anyone who calls fellow Saints fans morons for having a different opinion and wider view of things than themselves and doesn't want their club to succeed because they don't like the way it's run but wouldn't have a clue how to do it themselves sounds like a right pr1ck anyway and the club and rest ofus don't need you.
Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio...
[quote][p][bold]roverme[/bold] wrote: I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this. Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out![/p][/quote]See ya then. Anyone who calls fellow Saints fans morons for having a different opinion and wider view of things than themselves and doesn't want their club to succeed because they don't like the way it's run but wouldn't have a clue how to do it themselves sounds like a right pr1ck anyway and the club and rest ofus don't need you. Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio... J7junctionseven
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2:11pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

St Retford wrote:
MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
Because AOC wanted to go. Next.
ah I get it now !! all future products of the academy will not want to leave all of a sudden to be paid 3 times as much as Saints will be able to afford..... so simple really....
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]Because AOC wanted to go. Next.[/p][/quote]ah I get it now !! all future products of the academy will not want to leave all of a sudden to be paid 3 times as much as Saints will be able to afford..... so simple really.... MGRA
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2:12pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it.
but how come the miracle that is NC that always gets his way and can do no wrong was not able to keep him with this fantastic vision ?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it.[/p][/quote]but how come the miracle that is NC that always gets his way and can do no wrong was not able to keep him with this fantastic vision ? MGRA
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2:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
I was thinking the other day we have never had a foreign manager completely forgot about the Dutch duo it's best to just wipe that season out.
The Dutch duo weren't exactly backed with £30m+ of spending on on-pitch talent though, were they?

I don't think anyone can really draw a parallel.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I was thinking the other day we have never had a foreign manager completely forgot about the Dutch duo it's best to just wipe that season out.[/p][/quote]The Dutch duo weren't exactly backed with £30m+ of spending on on-pitch talent though, were they? I don't think anyone can really draw a parallel. St Retford
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2:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us
I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us SO50 Saint
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2:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it.
but how come the miracle that is NC that always gets his way and can do no wrong was not able to keep him with this fantastic vision ?
only the fact he has made the right appointments .on the other scale though had he kept pardew we probably would be here anyway ,but i bet ap would of dumped as for newcastle job anyway ,as i said earlier i think nc is panicking thinking of 130. million and if its true paying back big loans he has taken out ,but have not seen proof of this yet
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]AOC was not a true Saint was he, he benefitted from our Academy and rewarded us by running away for more money and fame, not really our fault was it.[/p][/quote]but how come the miracle that is NC that always gets his way and can do no wrong was not able to keep him with this fantastic vision ?[/p][/quote]only the fact he has made the right appointments .on the other scale though had he kept pardew we probably would be here anyway ,but i bet ap would of dumped as for newcastle job anyway ,as i said earlier i think nc is panicking thinking of 130. million and if its true paying back big loans he has taken out ,but have not seen proof of this yet saintkenny
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2:22pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!! saintlysoul
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2:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

St Retford says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us
I know *you* weren't but others are...
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us[/p][/quote]I know *you* weren't but others are... St Retford
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2:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Clemster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.
For one spouting on about not knowing the fact and thus not able to offer an opinion, you have never been shy to offer opinions of events in matches before when you've not even been there Osprey
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.[/p][/quote]For one spouting on about not knowing the fact and thus not able to offer an opinion, you have never been shy to offer opinions of events in matches before when you've not even been there Osprey Clemster
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2:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

George4th says...

St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
Good, sensible, articulate post.
( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) )

In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability.

It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!)

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]Good, sensible, articulate post. ( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) ) In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability. It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!) I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term. George4th
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2:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true saintkenny
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2:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.
Markus looked a jolly fellow didn’t he at the JPT Final!

People seem to like the idea of a very gentle but wealthy man being looked after by a ruthless businessman. Our relationship with the owners was so much younger and idealistic then.

The fact is they where both successful businessmen for a reason. They saved Saints to make a successful business of it and in that respect they have.

I don’t like what Cortese has done to NA. It could be seen as sentimental, but I personally think that we had something special at Saints, part of which we have now lost.

However, I am not a successful businessman and maybe the moment you start believing what you have is in someway special is the moment that you stop trying to make it special and lose it.

Maybe the last statement is perhaps more for Confucius, but my point is that I would trust Cortese's judgement over my own.

Onwards and upwards

COYRs
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.[/p][/quote]Markus looked a jolly fellow didn’t he at the JPT Final! People seem to like the idea of a very gentle but wealthy man being looked after by a ruthless businessman. Our relationship with the owners was so much younger and idealistic then. The fact is they where both successful businessmen for a reason. They saved Saints to make a successful business of it and in that respect they have. I don’t like what Cortese has done to NA. It could be seen as sentimental, but I personally think that we had something special at Saints, part of which we have now lost. However, I am not a successful businessman and maybe the moment you start believing what you have is in someway special is the moment that you stop trying to make it special and lose it. Maybe the last statement is perhaps more for Confucius, but my point is that I would trust Cortese's judgement over my own. Onwards and upwards COYRs Jesus_02
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2:31pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Don't forget most of the media haven't forgot about SFC not allowing photographers in a few years back. A way of Cortese trying to make the club money which the media did not like. The whole 'South Coast Club' scenario a lot of the stuff in the media is still possibly linked back to that
Don't forget most of the media haven't forgot about SFC not allowing photographers in a few years back. A way of Cortese trying to make the club money which the media did not like. The whole 'South Coast Club' scenario a lot of the stuff in the media is still possibly linked back to that SO50 Saint
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2:31pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dadofmy3sons says...

St Retford wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us
I know *you* weren't but others are...
In the years when we fell from grace a lot of things happened which we have all forgotten about. It is virtually impossible to remember them all!
There are some pretty horrible memories hidden away there!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: I'm not trying to draw any parrallel was just stating that I basically had completely forgot they were even in charge of us[/p][/quote]I know *you* weren't but others are...[/p][/quote]In the years when we fell from grace a lot of things happened which we have all forgotten about. It is virtually impossible to remember them all! There are some pretty horrible memories hidden away there! dadofmy3sons
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2:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
the team for me borac clyne shaw yoshida forren puncheon fox sniederlin cork lambert gaston ,bench davis s davis rodriguez chaplow lee hoovield prowse
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]the team for me borac clyne shaw yoshida forren puncheon fox sniederlin cork lambert gaston ,bench davis s davis rodriguez chaplow lee hoovield prowse saintkenny
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2:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!! saintlysoul
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2:40pm Mon 21 Jan 13

JohnItaly says...

coxfordsaint wrote:
It is good that the new manager is known for youth team activities,my only concern is that he has been brought in to make money by producing players like walcott, chamberlain to to sell on rather then keep..I am not sure of this persons credentials, i have never heard of any other british teams queuing up for his services, but that does not mean he will not succeed.
The way NA has been treated is a disgrace but coming from the reputation we have with chairman it is no real surprise.If we win the next half a dozen games and play fast flowing good attacking football NA will unfortunatley become just a memory like alan pardew when he was replaced

COYR saints fan through thick and thin
In that case let's hope in about 8/10 weeks NA is just a very fond memory.
[quote][p][bold]coxfordsaint[/bold] wrote: It is good that the new manager is known for youth team activities,my only concern is that he has been brought in to make money by producing players like walcott, chamberlain to to sell on rather then keep..I am not sure of this persons credentials, i have never heard of any other british teams queuing up for his services, but that does not mean he will not succeed. The way NA has been treated is a disgrace but coming from the reputation we have with chairman it is no real surprise.If we win the next half a dozen games and play fast flowing good attacking football NA will unfortunatley become just a memory like alan pardew when he was replaced COYR saints fan through thick and thin[/p][/quote]In that case let's hope in about 8/10 weeks NA is just a very fond memory. JohnItaly
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2:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.
For one spouting on about not knowing the fact and thus not able to offer an opinion, you have never been shy to offer opinions of events in matches before when you've not even been there Osprey
It may surprise you to know that when I don't acually make it to a game I have several links open to every game, I base my opinions on what I see and hear during the games, is that somehow wrong? I listen to what others say, I analyse the game from every available source I can get my hands on, if I get it wrong it is because I have been fed incorrect gen. I try to get my facts right, but I am human, not a computer or a robot, and when I say anything, it is in an effort to help others and hoping that they correct me if I get it wrong, it's a hobby, not meant to deceive anyone, if only others would do the same it would be useful for those that can't attend or monitor what is happening. I do seem to be attracting some criticism from some quarters so perhaps it would be best if I stopped posting again for a while, if I have upset anyone I apologise, not my intention at all.
[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of very good points being made, sadly there are some who won't listen, they cannot comprehend the points being made because of the lack of real facts which has led to a lot of innuendo, conspiracy theories and not a little opportunity for a good wind up. True fans have to be seen to stand up and be counted, tonight is a good opportunity, that is just the first skirmish, there are going to be many more, it could be good, it could be bad, we just don't know yet. My opinion remains firmly in the pending tray.[/p][/quote]For one spouting on about not knowing the fact and thus not able to offer an opinion, you have never been shy to offer opinions of events in matches before when you've not even been there Osprey[/p][/quote]It may surprise you to know that when I don't acually make it to a game I have several links open to every game, I base my opinions on what I see and hear during the games, is that somehow wrong? I listen to what others say, I analyse the game from every available source I can get my hands on, if I get it wrong it is because I have been fed incorrect gen. I try to get my facts right, but I am human, not a computer or a robot, and when I say anything, it is in an effort to help others and hoping that they correct me if I get it wrong, it's a hobby, not meant to deceive anyone, if only others would do the same it would be useful for those that can't attend or monitor what is happening. I do seem to be attracting some criticism from some quarters so perhaps it would be best if I stopped posting again for a while, if I have upset anyone I apologise, not my intention at all. OSPREYSAINT
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2:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me saintkenny
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2:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

up saints says...

saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
not a clue after friday who is doing what shame my lad dropped spanish at school could be usefull now
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]not a clue after friday who is doing what shame my lad dropped spanish at school could be usefull now up saints
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2:52pm Mon 21 Jan 13

roofspace says...

A website has been set up by a Saints fan to post dedications to Nigel Adkins which he is hoping to give to Nigel in book form. If you want to sign go to http://onenigeladkin
s.com/
A website has been set up by a Saints fan to post dedications to Nigel Adkins which he is hoping to give to Nigel in book form. If you want to sign go to http://onenigeladkin s.com/ roofspace
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2:53pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me
I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me[/p][/quote]I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!! saintlysoul
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2:58pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone.
keeps giving what ?
Is there a chance that someone else can answer this question, I give up.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: St Retford QUOTE: Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results. I think you have made a good point here, one thing Nicola has never asked for, is a vote to be top in a popularity contest! In fact I don't recall him asking much at all, but he keeps giving, otherwise we would have been long gone.[/p][/quote]keeps giving what ?[/p][/quote]Is there a chance that someone else can answer this question, I give up. OSPREYSAINT
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2:59pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Dan Howard says...

Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s.
On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia.
Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki)
No parallels there then!
Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s. On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia. Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki) No parallels there then! Dan Howard
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3:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

roofspace wrote:
A website has been set up by a Saints fan to post dedications to Nigel Adkins which he is hoping to give to Nigel in book form. If you want to sign go to http://onenigeladkin

s.com/
Yes great isn't it? I have posted the IRL address several times on other threads, I don't know if anyone took any notice, but when I last looked there were well over a thousand messages, and they are going to produce it in book form, at this rate it is going to be a substantial volume, bigger even than the Markus Liebherr tribute I would imagine, that says something about how we feel about Nigel Adkins. Would it have been the same if he had left by mutual consent, or (not a chance I know) had walked out and left us? If there are any doubters about me out there I do care.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: A website has been set up by a Saints fan to post dedications to Nigel Adkins which he is hoping to give to Nigel in book form. If you want to sign go to http://onenigeladkin s.com/[/p][/quote]Yes great isn't it? I have posted the IRL address several times on other threads, I don't know if anyone took any notice, but when I last looked there were well over a thousand messages, and they are going to produce it in book form, at this rate it is going to be a substantial volume, bigger even than the Markus Liebherr tribute I would imagine, that says something about how we feel about Nigel Adkins. Would it have been the same if he had left by mutual consent, or (not a chance I know) had walked out and left us? If there are any doubters about me out there I do care. OSPREYSAINT
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3:11pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

George4th wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
Good, sensible, articulate post.
( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) )

In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability.

It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!)

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.
Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it!
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]Good, sensible, articulate post. ( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) ) In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability. It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!) I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.[/p][/quote]Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it! OSPREYSAINT
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3:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me
I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!!
thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me[/p][/quote]I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!![/p][/quote]thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one saintkenny
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3:14pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dan Howard wrote:
Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s.
On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia.
Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki)
No parallels there then!
That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch.
[quote][p][bold]Dan Howard[/bold] wrote: Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s. On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia. Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki) No parallels there then![/p][/quote]That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch. OSPREYSAINT
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3:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

abbiscuits says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=S1drHnKNw
Ac&feature=youtu.be

interesting~
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=S1drHnKNw Ac&feature=youtu.be interesting~ abbiscuits
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3:17pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Matt Allen says...

Confucious wrote:
I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot).

Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for.

When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine.

It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe.

His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered.

Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight.

There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks.

Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back.
Well said, couldn't agree more!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot). Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for. When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine. It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe. His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered. Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight. There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks. Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back.[/p][/quote]Well said, couldn't agree more! Matt Allen
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3:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Blackwaterblue says...

Will h be supported when the Falklands kicks off?
Will h be supported when the Falklands kicks off? Blackwaterblue
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3:21pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Dan Howard says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dan Howard wrote:
Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s.
On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia.
Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki)
No parallels there then!
That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch.
Just look it square in the eye for what it is dear boy

Nicky's Cronies.

"We'll give you an Argentine you can't refuse!"

Ciao
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Howard[/bold] wrote: Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s. On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia. Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki) No parallels there then![/p][/quote]That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch.[/p][/quote]Just look it square in the eye for what it is dear boy Nicky's Cronies. "We'll give you an Argentine you can't refuse!" Ciao Dan Howard
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3:25pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Matt Allen wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot).

Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for.

When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine.

It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe.

His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered.

Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight.

There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks.

Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back.
Well said, couldn't agree more!
There are a faction that are praying that we get beat tonight, just so they can vent their spleens and pour as much bile and wind up material as they possibly can, how sad is that. apart from being disrespectful of NA's work, it brings shame on all of us. It could get very messy. Let us hope it doesn't come to that.
[quote][p][bold]Matt Allen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I'm told the Espanyol fans loved the guy and annoyed and saddened as I was about Nigel's departure, we should give the new man a fair chance and not make the mistake the Chelsea lot have (ie shooting themselves in the foot). Any protests tonight won't bring Nigel back or serve any positive purpose that I can think of. It was always going to be tough against Everton and it'll just be tougher still if we create the negative atmosphere that Moyes will certainly be hoping for. When all is said and done, the move to Southampton transformed Nigel's career and I have no doubt he will look back on it as the springboard that made his name and his career. He will do just fine. It's tempting to boo Nicola if for no other reason than it makes us feel better. But he was instrumental in saving the club - and indeed criticised by many for sacking Pardew and bringing in a virtual unknown from lowly Scunthorpe. His communication skills are very poor, but so far he's delivered. Directors and players will come and go, but the fans will remain through thick and thin - and we are the ones who will lose the most if we create a losing atmosphere tonight. There are negative moaners in the stands even in the good times and they may be out to enjoy a good moan tonight. We shouldn't boost their ranks. Three points tonight and the healing will start. We have to look forward and not back.[/p][/quote]Well said, couldn't agree more![/p][/quote]There are a faction that are praying that we get beat tonight, just so they can vent their spleens and pour as much bile and wind up material as they possibly can, how sad is that. apart from being disrespectful of NA's work, it brings shame on all of us. It could get very messy. Let us hope it doesn't come to that. OSPREYSAINT
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3:26pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dan Howard wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dan Howard wrote:
Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s.
On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia.
Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki)
No parallels there then!
That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch.
Just look it square in the eye for what it is dear boy

Nicky's Cronies.

"We'll give you an Argentine you can't refuse!"

Ciao
Patronising to say the least.
[quote][p][bold]Dan Howard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Howard[/bold] wrote: Just read the profiles of the new coaching team at St Mary’s. On the face of it, there seem remarkable similarities with Poortvliet and Wotte….on the whole, undistinguished time spent in undistinguished lower tier teams….except Poortvliet had a superior record as player than Poinsettia. Poinsettia: well-known for its appearance around Christmas but makes little impact the rest of the year. “..the red color represents the blood sacrifice through the crucifixion.” (wiki) No parallels there then![/p][/quote]That's right wait 'til I start to get depressed and then depress me some more, thank's a bunch.[/p][/quote]Just look it square in the eye for what it is dear boy Nicky's Cronies. "We'll give you an Argentine you can't refuse!" Ciao[/p][/quote]Patronising to say the least. OSPREYSAINT
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3:37pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
Where is this info?
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where is this info? Jesus_02
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3:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway. OSPREYSAINT
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3:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

Great news - we have Jesus as Assistant Manager - what can possibly go wrong now?!
Great news - we have Jesus as Assistant Manager - what can possibly go wrong now?! saintlysoul
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3:50pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
Where is this info?
Don't tell me you are Jesus Perez the new assistant manager actually giving out some information? That would be a first!
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where is this info?[/p][/quote]Don't tell me you are Jesus Perez the new assistant manager actually giving out some information? That would be a first! OSPREYSAINT
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3:50pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
Osprey in answer to you questions:

1. Yes going tonight;

2. Yes;

3. No;

4. No;

5. No;

6. Likewise!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]Osprey in answer to you questions: 1. Yes going tonight; 2. Yes; 3. No; 4. No; 5. No; 6. Likewise! saintlysoul
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3:52pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
Great news - we have Jesus as Assistant Manager - what can possibly go wrong now?!
Cue the deity jokes!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Great news - we have Jesus as Assistant Manager - what can possibly go wrong now?![/p][/quote]Cue the deity jokes! OSPREYSAINT
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3:53pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
Osprey in answer to you questions:

1. Yes going tonight;

2. Yes;

3. No;

4. No;

5. No;

6. Likewise!
At last a really positive result!
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]Osprey in answer to you questions: 1. Yes going tonight; 2. Yes; 3. No; 4. No; 5. No; 6. Likewise![/p][/quote]At last a really positive result! OSPREYSAINT
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3:56pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

No need to use the quote function, just an answer will do, otherwise it might get a bit unwieldy!
No need to use the quote function, just an answer will do, otherwise it might get a bit unwieldy! OSPREYSAINT
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3:56pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Egomaniac says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
1. Me

2. Yes

3. No

4. No

5. Never!

6. Not Applicable!!

Keep Posting Osprey - you are one of the sensible and logical debaters!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]1. Me 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. Never! 6. Not Applicable!! Keep Posting Osprey - you are one of the sensible and logical debaters! Egomaniac
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3:58pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I know it's freezing out there but we would rather not see any skates tonight.
I know it's freezing out there but we would rather not see any skates tonight. OSPREYSAINT
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4:00pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
Osprey in answer to you questions:

1. Yes going tonight;

2. Yes;

3. No;

4. No;

5. No;

6. Likewise!
6 should be yes .if you like it or not if your paying your money your supprting the club ,same as the 30.000 .only the skunts keep going on about wereb be in debt like there small team .but we do put 14000 more bums on seats at the games ,there is 19 hime games ,so get your calculater out .and you can see why we can compete on a more solid foundation ,and pay owners back in full with profit .if the club decide to take loans ,then lieber will take it on .and will get there funds back with profit ,some thing they were nevetr able to do .maybe thats what gets up tebourbas nose
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]Osprey in answer to you questions: 1. Yes going tonight; 2. Yes; 3. No; 4. No; 5. No; 6. Likewise![/p][/quote]6 should be yes .if you like it or not if your paying your money your supprting the club ,same as the 30.000 .only the skunts keep going on about wereb be in debt like there small team .but we do put 14000 more bums on seats at the games ,there is 19 hime games ,so get your calculater out .and you can see why we can compete on a more solid foundation ,and pay owners back in full with profit .if the club decide to take loans ,then lieber will take it on .and will get there funds back with profit ,some thing they were nevetr able to do .maybe thats what gets up tebourbas nose saintkenny
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4:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Egomaniac says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
No need to use the quote function, just an answer will do, otherwise it might get a bit unwieldy!
Sorry!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: No need to use the quote function, just an answer will do, otherwise it might get a bit unwieldy![/p][/quote]Sorry!! Egomaniac
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4:02pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
1. I'm in the Northam so I stand. As does my son.
2. OH YES!
3. One chorus of "One Nigel Adkins" then draw Nigel's legendary blue line.
4. No
5. No
6. No
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]1. I'm in the Northam so I stand. As does my son. 2. OH YES! 3. One chorus of "One Nigel Adkins" then draw Nigel's legendary blue line. 4. No 5. No 6. No Velleity
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4:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Cheapshot says...

carllewis1966 wrote:
As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.
http://onenigeladkin
s.com/

Please look at this website and shove your unwanted comments up your @rse!

We loved Adkins...now we must show are support to the new guy!
[quote][p][bold]carllewis1966[/bold] wrote: As a supporter of lowly scunthorpe i have been following this story over the last couple of days.I feel nigel was stabbed in the back just like many of your previous managers.As saints fans do you realise how good a manager he really was for your club it seems many of your fans have soon got over his sacking and some agreeing wth corteses decision.I think you will end up back where you was when nigel took over.[/p][/quote]http://onenigeladkin s.com/ Please look at this website and shove your unwanted comments up your @rse! We loved Adkins...now we must show are support to the new guy! Cheapshot
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4:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
1; of course 2; of course 3;no 4;no 5;na 6;na
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]1; of course 2; of course 3;no 4;no 5;na 6;na slugger
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4:04pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Twitter rumours that we are sniffing around argentine midfield playmaker Juan Riquelme ...
Can't we stop the moaning now, it's draining!!
Twitter rumours that we are sniffing around argentine midfield playmaker Juan Riquelme ... Can't we stop the moaning now, it's draining!! SaintMax
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4:04pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OK just some questions before I pack it in for now.

1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight?

2. Will you be actively supporting the team?

3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour.

4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest?

5. Have you given up for good?

6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on.

Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.
Osprey in answer to you questions:

1. Yes going tonight;

2. Yes;

3. No;

4. No;

5. No;

6. Likewise!
At last a really positive result!
Your posts Osprey have been very helpful and encourage positivity!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: OK just some questions before I pack it in for now. 1. Who, of you are going to be in your seat tonight? 2. Will you be actively supporting the team? 3. Do you intend to show some kind of protest in Nigel Adkins favour. 4. Will you be boycotting the game in protest? 5. Have you given up for good? 6. I am not a supporter, but am interested in what is going on. Please. Keep the responses short, no need for explanations as they will be obvious to all anyway.[/p][/quote]Osprey in answer to you questions: 1. Yes going tonight; 2. Yes; 3. No; 4. No; 5. No; 6. Likewise![/p][/quote]At last a really positive result![/p][/quote]Your posts Osprey have been very helpful and encourage positivity!!! saintlysoul
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4:12pm Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

roverme wrote:
I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this.
Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out!
Very well put and i agree with you 100%.
[quote][p][bold]roverme[/bold] wrote: I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this. Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out![/p][/quote]Very well put and i agree with you 100%. three halves
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4:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement!
And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement![/p][/quote]And you are a log in name if you have not realised it . three halves
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4:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

slugger says...

three halves a season ticket holder eh ? .... sorry , don't believe you .......... COYR !!!
three halves a season ticket holder eh ? .... sorry , don't believe you .......... COYR !!! slugger
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4:31pm Mon 21 Jan 13

buster gutt says...

This sounds remarkably like to model suggested by Rupert Lowe when he brought his mates in from Holland and it failed miserably .Nevertheless we should support the team tonight and no booing the manager alla Chelsea Fans when things don't go according to plan assuming they don't of course
This sounds remarkably like to model suggested by Rupert Lowe when he brought his mates in from Holland and it failed miserably .Nevertheless we should support the team tonight and no booing the manager alla Chelsea Fans when things don't go according to plan assuming they don't of course buster gutt
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4:33pm Mon 21 Jan 13

sk8srsinking says...

three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
If so called fans won't go 2 SMS cos of this then r they real fans? I'd watch my beloved team whoever was in charge and whoever wore the shirt as I did in the dark days of administration and relegation.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]If so called fans won't go 2 SMS cos of this then r they real fans? I'd watch my beloved team whoever was in charge and whoever wore the shirt as I did in the dark days of administration and relegation. sk8srsinking
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4:34pm Mon 21 Jan 13

buster gutt says...

This sounds remarkably like to model suggested by Rupert Lowe when he brought his mates in from Holland and it failed miserably .Nevertheless we should support the team tonight and no booing the manager alla Chelsea Fans when things don't go according to plan assuming they don't of course
This sounds remarkably like to model suggested by Rupert Lowe when he brought his mates in from Holland and it failed miserably .Nevertheless we should support the team tonight and no booing the manager alla Chelsea Fans when things don't go according to plan assuming they don't of course buster gutt
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4:34pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

three halves wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement!
And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .
Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement![/p][/quote]And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .[/p][/quote]Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:36pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
George4th wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
Good, sensible, articulate post.
( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) )

In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability.

It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!)

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.
Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it!
The NC fan club is hilarious... You do not have to make me understand what he is good at. NC is successful in so far that he appears to have singlehandedly hijacked a football club and brainwashed a certain minority of supporters. Everyone is missing the blindingly obvious, and that is he clearly only has one thing on this mind, and that is getting the maximum return for when the club is sold next season ( if we stay up ). How anyone can think he has the slightest interest in the club and its fans is beyond me. He has proven time and time again that he does not give a stuff and is only interested in his own agenda. I still think it will actually work out well in the end and his reign when it ends will be regarded as beneficial on balance, but then there will be some very hard work for new owners to restore the reputation of the club. I think people are underestimating just how many supporters may abandon the stadium, not just tonight. Thats how I see it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]Good, sensible, articulate post. ( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) ) In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability. It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!) I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.[/p][/quote]Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it![/p][/quote]The NC fan club is hilarious... You do not have to make me understand what he is good at. NC is successful in so far that he appears to have singlehandedly hijacked a football club and brainwashed a certain minority of supporters. Everyone is missing the blindingly obvious, and that is he clearly only has one thing on this mind, and that is getting the maximum return for when the club is sold next season ( if we stay up ). How anyone can think he has the slightest interest in the club and its fans is beyond me. He has proven time and time again that he does not give a stuff and is only interested in his own agenda. I still think it will actually work out well in the end and his reign when it ends will be regarded as beneficial on balance, but then there will be some very hard work for new owners to restore the reputation of the club. I think people are underestimating just how many supporters may abandon the stadium, not just tonight. Thats how I see it. MGRA
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4:39pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
three halves a season ticket holder eh ? .... sorry , don't believe you .......... COYR !!!
Indeed, me neither.

I'm in aap3 box tonight, be interesting to see what they make of it. Nigel's sacking that is, not three halves not being a sth!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: three halves a season ticket holder eh ? .... sorry , don't believe you .......... COYR !!![/p][/quote]Indeed, me neither. I'm in aap3 box tonight, be interesting to see what they make of it. Nigel's sacking that is, not three halves not being a sth! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:43pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement!
And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .
Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't.
No, we were all figments of your imagination.

(You may want to see a psychiatrist if we were, as your imagination is clearly diseased to come up with people like us)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement![/p][/quote]And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .[/p][/quote]Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't.[/p][/quote]No, we were all figments of your imagination. (You may want to see a psychiatrist if we were, as your imagination is clearly diseased to come up with people like us) Velleity
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4:45pm Mon 21 Jan 13

sk8srsinking says...

If so called fans won't go 2 SMS cos of this then r they real fans? I'd watch my beloved team whoever was in charge and whoever wore the shirt as I did in the dark days of administration and relegation.
If so called fans won't go 2 SMS cos of this then r they real fans? I'd watch my beloved team whoever was in charge and whoever wore the shirt as I did in the dark days of administration and relegation. sk8srsinking
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4:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
George4th wrote:
St Retford wrote:
tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers.

Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.
Good, sensible, articulate post.
( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) )

In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability.

It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!)

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.
Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it!
The NC fan club is hilarious... You do not have to make me understand what he is good at. NC is successful in so far that he appears to have singlehandedly hijacked a football club and brainwashed a certain minority of supporters. Everyone is missing the blindingly obvious, and that is he clearly only has one thing on this mind, and that is getting the maximum return for when the club is sold next season ( if we stay up ). How anyone can think he has the slightest interest in the club and its fans is beyond me. He has proven time and time again that he does not give a stuff and is only interested in his own agenda. I still think it will actually work out well in the end and his reign when it ends will be regarded as beneficial on balance, but then there will be some very hard work for new owners to restore the reputation of the club. I think people are underestimating just how many supporters may abandon the stadium, not just tonight. Thats how I see it.
You are making a habit of contradicting yourself mid-post. Like you are having a mini debate with yourself.. not one of your best posts, in fact you are starting to bore the pants off me.

COYR, MA and NCs RaW Army!!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Call him what you like but you can't call him incompetent. He's taken us from the brink of extinction on minus 10 in league 1 to the Premier League in three years. That's not incompetence - that's excellent management, albeit management done in a way that may have ruffled feathers. Markus had an enormous amount of affection for Nicola and theirs was a relationship that went beyond business. The way it's talked about with all the gold watches Markus bestowed on Nicola it seems absolutely inescapable that Nicola did something pretty amazing for Markus, and Markus could have been in no doubt about the range of Nicola's business talents (shrewdness, efficiency, ruthlessness) which he possessed in order to achieve it. I think Markus must have felt he owed him big time, because he effectively bought SFC for him as a reward.[/p][/quote]Good, sensible, articulate post. ( Probably the same won't be said about mine! :-) ) In any other walk of life, Cortese would be seen as successful! Corteses does not seek publicity - he does not have an ego - he is confident in his own ability. It's the media who stir it up and it is the media that encourage it via TV, Newspapers and the internet! Ex players/managers with no idea about running a football club or a business, sit on their Gold, Jewelled encrusted Thrones pontificating! (Either because of envy or because they don't get free tickets anymore!!!) I, for one, am looking forward to seeing a new modern Coach implement his ideas and strategies to the betterment of SFC long term.[/p][/quote]Thanks GIV that says it better than I could, but how do you get people like MGRA and Co. to understand it![/p][/quote]The NC fan club is hilarious... You do not have to make me understand what he is good at. NC is successful in so far that he appears to have singlehandedly hijacked a football club and brainwashed a certain minority of supporters. Everyone is missing the blindingly obvious, and that is he clearly only has one thing on this mind, and that is getting the maximum return for when the club is sold next season ( if we stay up ). How anyone can think he has the slightest interest in the club and its fans is beyond me. He has proven time and time again that he does not give a stuff and is only interested in his own agenda. I still think it will actually work out well in the end and his reign when it ends will be regarded as beneficial on balance, but then there will be some very hard work for new owners to restore the reputation of the club. I think people are underestimating just how many supporters may abandon the stadium, not just tonight. Thats how I see it.[/p][/quote]You are making a habit of contradicting yourself mid-post. Like you are having a mini debate with yourself.. not one of your best posts, in fact you are starting to bore the pants off me. COYR, MA and NCs RaW Army!! SaintMax
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4:49pm Mon 21 Jan 13

batesieboy says...

MGRA wrote:
If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?
You say you are a Saints fan and you don't know the answer to that?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: If NC wants to evolve a Barca-style system, why did he sell AOC ?[/p][/quote]You say you are a Saints fan and you don't know the answer to that? batesieboy
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4:52pm Mon 21 Jan 13

batesieboy says...

Sunny Saint wrote:
I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need.
It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts).
COYR's - UTS :-)
Not a very sunny post, was it Sunny Saint?
[quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Not a very sunny post, was it Sunny Saint? batesieboy
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4:52pm Mon 21 Jan 13

three halves says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league.
Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then.
How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.
You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season.

I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.
Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those.
As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.
I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then.

I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again.

Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.
To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant.
If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.
Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement!
And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .
Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't.
You are obviously a idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: He did so well he was sacked with his team bottom of the league. Cortese has pulled off a master stroke by sacking NA then. How to lose the supporters backing in one easy lesson and reduce the attendance by those that have had enough and wont be back.[/p][/quote]You should tell us your seat number so we can check that you're really withdrawing your support from the players tonight and for the rest of the season. I'd hate you to believe that we thought you were just spouting off with no intention of following it through. Oh no.[/p][/quote]Im sure if you look around the stadium there will be many empty seats and mine is one of those. As for spouting off you seem to be full of yourself on here.[/p][/quote]I see. So, no seat number, then? If you're not going to be there then there is no possible reason for not telling us the season ticket seat number. I guess you're popping along then. I'll be amazed if there are "plenty" of empty seats; you're the only ST holder on here that I've noticed to have posted that you're not going again. Look, I felt sick when the news came out - I hate what Cortese did and the way he did it - but what the *team* needs is support. I bet you a pound to a penny that that's what Adkins would say. Not giving your support seems a little churlish. Come along, enjoy the football and support your *team* regardless of what you think of its chairman - that's what it's about.[/p][/quote]To ask for my seat number is to question my integrity and just shows you are arrogant. If people are as unhappy with things like me they wont go,the attendance figures wont tell lies.[/p][/quote]Don't get on your high horse. You are not personally known to other posters just as a login name so it's not questioning your integrity - you prove your statement![/p][/quote]And you are a log in name if you have not realised it .[/p][/quote]Yes but I have met slugger, Bad Bill, Mack Chinnon, J7, puppy saint, Vellity, St Yorkie, Strassy, and many more so my credentials exist. Yours don't.[/p][/quote]You are obviously a idiot. three halves
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4:54pm Mon 21 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me
I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!!
thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one
Yes I accept I did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the squad for a month if in fact that is right. I've no reason to believe it isn't correct but why would he have De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench if that in fact the case? What has he seen of Chaplow and Re Ridder? Having seen Guly over the last month why start with him? These are all questions we will never n
Know the answers to. I got the new manager completely wrong as I had said it would be Di Matteo - a lesson learnt in not believing everything you're told!!!!!!

Whatever happens I wish the new coaching team all the very best and success tonight. I for one will be supporting them!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me[/p][/quote]I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!![/p][/quote]thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one[/p][/quote]Yes I accept I did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the squad for a month if in fact that is right. I've no reason to believe it isn't correct but why would he have De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench if that in fact the case? What has he seen of Chaplow and Re Ridder? Having seen Guly over the last month why start with him? These are all questions we will never n Know the answers to. I got the new manager completely wrong as I had said it would be Di Matteo - a lesson learnt in not believing everything you're told!!!!!! Whatever happens I wish the new coaching team all the very best and success tonight. I for one will be supporting them!!!!!! saintlysoul
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4:55pm Mon 21 Jan 13

mustique says...

It really shows how little the majority know about running a football club.
It is like a business that grows the staff that can run a small business cannot always do so as the business goes to a higher level.Unfortunately Nigel Adkins probably does not quite have the ability to step up a level. He is a nice chap. Le Tiss is just sour grapes because he could not buy the Club. It will be interesting to see what that know all Merrington has to say tonight, bearing in mind his past remarks about Adkins.”
It really shows how little the majority know about running a football club. It is like a business that grows the staff that can run a small business cannot always do so as the business goes to a higher level.Unfortunately Nigel Adkins probably does not quite have the ability to step up a level. He is a nice chap. Le Tiss is just sour grapes because he could not buy the Club. It will be interesting to see what that know all Merrington has to say tonight, bearing in mind his past remarks about Adkins.” mustique
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5:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

batesieboy says...

tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Mr. Cortese may well be arrogant, tinas, but one thing is for sure: he is neither incompetent nor an idiot. Don't get so emotional about things! Try to see the bigger picture(s).
[quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Mr. Cortese may well be arrogant, tinas, but one thing is for sure: he is neither incompetent nor an idiot. Don't get so emotional about things! Try to see the bigger picture(s). batesieboy
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5:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
roverme wrote:
I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this.
Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out!
Very well put and i agree with you 100%.
Well it is goodbye to the pair of you, thank you for your support in the past, but we do need supporters with a bit more backbone if we are to survive.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverme[/bold] wrote: I'm a saints fan and I hope they get what they deserve tonight, I think they will as well. Seems so alien to wish ill on them, Cortese mustnt succeed, thats how i feel. Dissalusioned, dissapointed and a tad depresssed, looked forward so much to games and then this. Games gone to pot, no goodwill, no integrity left, just greed. Foriengers ruining our game. No room for sentiment, no room for british players or managers either. thats it for me, 50 years of following them, stood at the dell in all sorts of weather cheering them on in midweek winter games, done my bit now someone has stolen my club, well they can keep it and the morons that back them that can have it as well. I wish you all the luck you deserve and maybe one day yourll have the luck to support a decent club again. In the meantime... Im out![/p][/quote]Very well put and i agree with you 100%.[/p][/quote]Well it is goodbye to the pair of you, thank you for your support in the past, but we do need supporters with a bit more backbone if we are to survive. OSPREYSAINT
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5:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

El Santo says...

saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!!
as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true
Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong.

Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!!
if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me
I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!!
thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one
Yes I accept I did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the squad for a month if in fact that is right. I've no reason to believe it isn't correct but why would he have De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench if that in fact the case? What has he seen of Chaplow and Re Ridder? Having seen Guly over the last month why start with him? These are all questions we will never n
Know the answers to. I got the new manager completely wrong as I had said it would be Di Matteo - a lesson learnt in not believing everything you're told!!!!!!

Whatever happens I wish the new coaching team all the very best and success tonight. I for one will be supporting them!!!!!!
Well, ahem, I have to admit that I always had a soft spot for Chaplow. I think he is a stronger contention midfielder than the rest.
On the other side, I am usually wrong...
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: Guly starts tonight as does Lambert. De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench!!!!!![/p][/quote]as cortesse picked the team then ,de ridder is awful guly to lazy for me spells trouble if this is true[/p][/quote]Has NC picked the team? I don't know. I have my suspicions hat he may have. What is interesting is thefact that apart from about 4 occasions this season Chaplow hasn't featured. De Ridder likewise appeared to be out of favour with NA save for a couple of matches latterly when he featured on the bench. The Guly selection surprises / concerns me. I dont want to 'knock' Guly but I agree I think also that he is a lazy player. No doubt the new manager has to get to know his team but these selections suggest to be that NC may be influencing selection. I may be totally wrong. Whatever happens I wish the Saints good luck tonight!!!!![/p][/quote]if put de ridder on the pitch though he his way under this level .i cant se him being here much longer .not sure why na put him on .fox offers more and better cover for shaw .not impressed with this guy .league one level for me[/p][/quote]I agree what you say about De Ridder. Fox is on the bench tonight. No doubt all the players will play out of their skins tonight to impress the new boss. It may be he wants to 'try' the whole squad to see what he has available. We'll all have to just wait and see!!!!!![/p][/quote]thats if what you say his true.you did say that na was going ,but you did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the team for a month .so you knew nothing about that .teams dont need to be handed in yet tikll much later .i will watch with interest.on this one[/p][/quote]Yes I accept I did miss the fact that the new manager had been watching the squad for a month if in fact that is right. I've no reason to believe it isn't correct but why would he have De Ridder and Chaplow on the bench if that in fact the case? What has he seen of Chaplow and Re Ridder? Having seen Guly over the last month why start with him? These are all questions we will never n Know the answers to. I got the new manager completely wrong as I had said it would be Di Matteo - a lesson learnt in not believing everything you're told!!!!!! Whatever happens I wish the new coaching team all the very best and success tonight. I for one will be supporting them!!!!!![/p][/quote]Well, ahem, I have to admit that I always had a soft spot for Chaplow. I think he is a stronger contention midfielder than the rest. On the other side, I am usually wrong... El Santo
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5:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
Will he be given time to do his job, Ijust hope he can it the ground running
Good luck to the new manager,players,back room staff.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Will he be given time to do his job, Ijust hope he can it the ground running[/p][/quote]Good luck to the new manager,players,back room staff. Alex297
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5:22pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Going for 3-2 tonight Team will up for it.

Rickie Gaston and Spider COYR
I think its going to be tight ,1-0 to saints Rickie to score !
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Going for 3-2 tonight Team will up for it. Rickie Gaston and Spider COYR[/p][/quote]I think its going to be tight ,1-0 to saints Rickie to score ! Alex297
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5:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Clever Dick says...

Osprey 3.44
1.Can't make it. Hours drive, bad weather.2.Will be shouting at the telly. Not all empty seats will be in protest.3. A round or two for NA to give thanks for what he has done fo us.4.N. 5.N. 6. NA (Thats not applicable not Nigel Adkins!!)
Osprey 3.44 1.Can't make it. Hours drive, bad weather.2.Will be shouting at the telly. Not all empty seats will be in protest.3. A round or two for NA to give thanks for what he has done fo us.4.N. 5.N. 6. NA (Thats not applicable not Nigel Adkins!!) Clever Dick
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5:39pm Mon 21 Jan 13

st1halo says...

tinas wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Sunny Saint wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)
Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.
I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom
There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.
Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes?
Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark.
Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.
Certainly leading us to disaster so far isn't he!!!!

As for pundits around the country.... for me, David Moyes put it best .... "I think Nigel Adkins is a very good manager but I don't know what has gone on behind the scenes at Southampton"

A smart man who realises that drawing conclusions when you don't know all the facts is best left for fools!

Finally...
Not blind loyalty, gratitude for without him there would be no club to love!


STID
[quote][p][bold]tinas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: I think that we will get our arses handed back to us by Everton this evening. I just hope that it’s not a cricket score that will cause the team to lose their momentum. As much as I want the Saints to win, I believe a loss tonight may be the kind of grounding that the new man will need. It’s just a shame that NC doesn’t get some much needed grounding (Preferably with a couple of thousand volts). COYR's - UTS :-)[/p][/quote]Does your name come from your naturally sunny disposition? It's GREAT to have you on board.[/p][/quote]I live in Israel, part of the 'Israeli Saints Fans group'. The sun is nearly always shining here. Still not sure why NC is constantly credited with saving the Saints, when that was clearly Markus. NC was merely appointed by Markus as the guardian of his legacy. His appointment, like that of the managers is in no way permanent or set-in-stone. Managers and coaches come and go, we all expect it, as we also expect sudden and sometimes drastic changes. However, it is also generally expected that such occurrences are conducted with a little more decorum and with as negative an impact as possible. Believe me when I tell you, that even out here it knocked every (not just football) sporting story off of the headlines and was slammed by all sections. Nigel, was rocketed from relative obscurity to National (now global) recognition when he joined the Saints. He will have also been rewarded with a very nice settlement package, that will sit nicely under his mattress when he is quickly appointed by another club. We are still here and have a voice, and we can also lobby very effectively with our feet if needed. Thus, it is important that NC is very aware of our displeasure, whilst at the same time letting the new Manager know that our united voice is his 12 man on the pitch, our colours do not run and the when we bleed, we bleed Red & White. Shalom[/p][/quote]There seems to be quite a widespread perception that Markus would have been dismayed by Nicola's actions since the former's untimely death. I don't think that at all. Markus was seen as this kindly, avuncular figure who wouldn't have harmed a fly. And maybe to a certain extent this was true. But equally, this was precisely why he had such a close relationship with Nicola and why he trusted him so much - because he needed Nicola to 'get stuff done' on his behalf and enforce tough decisions when they were in his interest. Markus knew exactly the kind of person Nicola was and I think he had a huge admiration for the fact he'd make himself unpopular in order to get results.[/p][/quote]Do tell where you got your inside information on Markus Liebherr's thought processes? Like many posters on here it seems to me that what you're doing is whistling in the dark. Cortese is an arrogant, incompetent idiot. This is clear to most football fans and pundits around the country, if not to those Saints fans who mistake loyalty to the club they love with blind loyalty to the chairman who is leading it to disaster.[/p][/quote]Certainly leading us to disaster so far isn't he!!!! As for pundits around the country.... for me, David Moyes put it best .... "I think Nigel Adkins is a very good manager but I don't know what has gone on behind the scenes at Southampton" A smart man who realises that drawing conclusions when you don't know all the facts is best left for fools! Finally... Not blind loyalty, gratitude for without him there would be no club to love! STID st1halo
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5:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

st1halo says...

Osie in answer to you questions:

1. Yes going tonight;

2. Yes;

3. No;

4. No;

5. No;

6. STID!!!!!!
Osie in answer to you questions: 1. Yes going tonight; 2. Yes; 3. No; 4. No; 5. No; 6. STID!!!!!! st1halo
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5:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Osprey 3.44
1.Can't make it. Hours drive, bad weather.2.Will be shouting at the telly. Not all empty seats will be in protest.3. A round or two for NA to give thanks for what he has done fo us.4.N. 5.N. 6. NA (Thats not applicable not Nigel Adkins!!)
Understandable, but you don't have to apologise to me!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Osprey 3.44 1.Can't make it. Hours drive, bad weather.2.Will be shouting at the telly. Not all empty seats will be in protest.3. A round or two for NA to give thanks for what he has done fo us.4.N. 5.N. 6. NA (Thats not applicable not Nigel Adkins!!)[/p][/quote]Understandable, but you don't have to apologise to me! OSPREYSAINT
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5:50pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Another interesting view on the situation:-

http://www.itsbeauti
fuloutside.co.uk/blo
g/files/why-was-Nige
l-Adkins-sacked.html
Another interesting view on the situation:- http://www.itsbeauti fuloutside.co.uk/blo g/files/why-was-Nige l-Adkins-sacked.html OSPREYSAINT
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6:26pm Mon 21 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Talking of Winners, sad news Michael has passed away today RIP.
Talking of Winners, sad news Michael has passed away today RIP. OSPREYSAINT
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6:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SnapperSaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?
I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.
Disable flash player and all the annoyances go away...well apart from the WUMs from Pompey that is...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: Why does this site omitt letters from blog's ?[/p][/quote]I have been asking the same question, I am not a techy, but I suspect it is interference from the adverts and cookies, which swamp this site, along with that annoying video, this site can be very irritating to some, not helped by so many negative threads. I guess the adverts pay for the site. A decent adbloc can reduce the annoyance but not cure it.[/p][/quote]Disable flash player and all the annoyances go away...well apart from the WUMs from Pompey that is... SnapperSaint
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10:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

techsture says...

Whats Pep ever done in football other than inherit the greatest football team ever? Everyone forgets Frankie Rijkaard put that team together and gave Messi, Iniesta and Xavi their debuts.

I could lead Barcelona to the Spanish title.
Whats Pep ever done in football other than inherit the greatest football team ever? Everyone forgets Frankie Rijkaard put that team together and gave Messi, Iniesta and Xavi their debuts. I could lead Barcelona to the Spanish title. techsture
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11:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

fred the red says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Another interesting view on the situation:-

http://www.itsbeauti

fuloutside.co.uk/blo

g/files/why-was-Nige

l-Adkins-sacked.html
A very good read. The point it misses is that a number of Nigel's signings have under-performed, certainly when compared with home-developed talent.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Another interesting view on the situation:- http://www.itsbeauti fuloutside.co.uk/blo g/files/why-was-Nige l-Adkins-sacked.html[/p][/quote]A very good read. The point it misses is that a number of Nigel's signings have under-performed, certainly when compared with home-developed talent. fred the red
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2:28am Tue 22 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Well done and a big thanks to all who turned up and supported the team, the Press went home with their tails between their legs thanks to the impeccable behaviour shown by fans who showed the world how it should be done, Chelsea please note, and a good point to boot.
Well done and a big thanks to all who turned up and supported the team, the Press went home with their tails between their legs thanks to the impeccable behaviour shown by fans who showed the world how it should be done, Chelsea please note, and a good point to boot. OSPREYSAINT
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