Saints linked with Stoch swoop

Miroslav Stoch

Miroslav Stoch

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Saints have been linked with a move for exciting Slovakian winger Miroslav Stoch.

The 23-year-old, who plays for Fenerbache, has been widely reported in the Turkish media as having met with Saints officials to discuss a possible move to St Mary’s.

The Turkish giants are said to be interested in trying to take centre half Jose Fonte in the opposite direction.

Stoch has gained a strong reputation as an exciting left sided winger but is said to be keen to move on after a falling out with Fenerbache’s former manager and a lack of chances which meant he started only 12 games last season.

After impressing in a youth tournament Stoch signed for Chelsea’s academy and progressed through the ranks at Stamford Bridge but found first team chances hard to come by and left the club in 2010 having played just four first team games for the Blues.

During his last season as a Chelsea player he went on loan at FC Twente in Holland and caught the eye with ten league goals in 32 appearances.

That prompted Fenerbache to pay Chelsea €5.5m for him in 2010.

In his first season in Turkey he settled in with two goals from 23 appearances before really making his name in 2012/13 with 12 goals from 33 games.

Last season was one to forget and now the 37 cap Slovakian international is understood to be looking for a new challenge but with three years remaining on his contract he will not come cheap.

Fenerbache are said to be eyeing any potential deal as a possible way to recruit Fonte in return.

The Saints centre half has helped the club to back-to-back promotions and then to stabilise in the Premier League.

After a tough start to last season the 29-year-old bounced back to finish the season as a regular fixture in the side.

Saints have though just splashed out £8.5m on centre half Dejan Lovren and have Maya Yoshida, Jos Hooiveld and last season’s £4m recruit Vegard Forren also competing for those places.

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3:50pm Tue 18 Jun 13

halo-man says...

Did mention yesterday that Fonte was on his way to Fenerbache. Two strikers this week I was told maybe this guy is being counted as a striker? don't know anything about him.
Did mention yesterday that Fonte was on his way to Fenerbache. Two strikers this week I was told maybe this guy is being counted as a striker? don't know anything about him. halo-man
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3:59pm Tue 18 Jun 13

angus mc coatup says...

halo-man wrote:
Did mention yesterday that Fonte was on his way to Fenerbache. Two strikers this week I was told maybe this guy is being counted as a striker? don't know anything about him.
Just watched some you tube clips, and he certainly can score some spectacular goals. Mostly from outside the box, just what we need Imo.
[quote][p][bold]halo-man[/bold] wrote: Did mention yesterday that Fonte was on his way to Fenerbache. Two strikers this week I was told maybe this guy is being counted as a striker? don't know anything about him.[/p][/quote]Just watched some you tube clips, and he certainly can score some spectacular goals. Mostly from outside the box, just what we need Imo. angus mc coatup
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4:17pm Tue 18 Jun 13

markodarko29 says...

little bit uninspiring was hoping for better than this,surely ince is worth a punt
little bit uninspiring was hoping for better than this,surely ince is worth a punt markodarko29
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4:33pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done.

I will check him out later to see what he is like.
this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done. I will check him out later to see what he is like. Stroppy_gramps
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4:40pm Tue 18 Jun 13

SaintJD says...

What's with all these players that can't get a regular start for their clubs 'not coming cheap'.

Sorry, but I don't really get the equation.

Promising youngsters may be expected to cost more, but they are also a much bigger risk and many of them don't come off, especially when bought from leagues where games are of a far lower standard most weeks.

A lottery really, although Courtinho obviously came off for Liverpool, or seems to have so far.

For me though it's all about price. If he's cheap and the wages are low I'd rather have him in the squad than some of the dead wood or ones we've moved on. But surely we shouldn't be paying £8 million plus for unproven players that have fallen out with their clubs?

It's all about value really. £8 million for Hernandez at Swansea or £2 million for Michu at Swansea? I know who represented better value.

£12 million for Ramirez or £2 million for Clyne (Cork was less than £1 million as well).

All were young and promising, but for some reason some are under priced and some are overpriced.

Go for the best players Saints, but let's look for the ones coming to the end of their contracts or with clubs who want to sell and will sell for below market value for whatever reason.
What's with all these players that can't get a regular start for their clubs 'not coming cheap'. Sorry, but I don't really get the equation. Promising youngsters may be expected to cost more, but they are also a much bigger risk and many of them don't come off, especially when bought from leagues where games are of a far lower standard most weeks. A lottery really, although Courtinho obviously came off for Liverpool, or seems to have so far. For me though it's all about price. If he's cheap and the wages are low I'd rather have him in the squad than some of the dead wood or ones we've moved on. But surely we shouldn't be paying £8 million plus for unproven players that have fallen out with their clubs? It's all about value really. £8 million for Hernandez at Swansea or £2 million for Michu at Swansea? I know who represented better value. £12 million for Ramirez or £2 million for Clyne (Cork was less than £1 million as well). All were young and promising, but for some reason some are under priced and some are overpriced. Go for the best players Saints, but let's look for the ones coming to the end of their contracts or with clubs who want to sell and will sell for below market value for whatever reason. SaintJD
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4:44pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

SaintJD - I do agree but to be honest I think some of the pricing comes down to the agents.

Besides - can you be sure that the figures bandied about are what is actually paid for the players?

There are plenty of examples where agents have tried to spin the media to bump up the price (so they get a bigger cut)

There was one the other week and I recall the figured speculated on was about 2 million more than what was paid.
SaintJD - I do agree but to be honest I think some of the pricing comes down to the agents. Besides - can you be sure that the figures bandied about are what is actually paid for the players? There are plenty of examples where agents have tried to spin the media to bump up the price (so they get a bigger cut) There was one the other week and I recall the figured speculated on was about 2 million more than what was paid. Stroppy_gramps
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4:45pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Alicesdad says...

Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here.

Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted.

We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with.

Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment.

We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can.

I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk.

Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties .

In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?
Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here. Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted. We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with. Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment. We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can. I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk. Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties . In the meantime have we got time for a riot ? Alicesdad
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4:52pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Sainty saint saint says...

markodarko29 wrote:
little bit uninspiring was hoping for better than this,surely ince is worth a punt
Why is this uninspiring? Because YOU'VE never heard of him?
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: little bit uninspiring was hoping for better than this,surely ince is worth a punt[/p][/quote]Why is this uninspiring? Because YOU'VE never heard of him? Sainty saint saint
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4:52pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Sainty saint saint says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done.

I will check him out later to see what he is like.
What's this deal got to do with Lovren?
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done. I will check him out later to see what he is like.[/p][/quote]What's this deal got to do with Lovren? Sainty saint saint
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5:01pm Tue 18 Jun 13

st1halo says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here.

Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted.

We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with.

Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment.

We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can.

I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk.

Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties .

In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?
I've had a look at this guy, scores lots of spectacular goals with right and left in the mould of Bale, winner of FIFA goal of the year last year. The danger is always (with any player) whether they will fit in or not, countless players have failed to achieve after a move (Torres, Caroll etc) but regardless of the price tag it's always the risk.

If we land him I will be on RiotCON 2!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here. Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted. We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with. Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment. We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can. I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk. Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties . In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?[/p][/quote]I've had a look at this guy, scores lots of spectacular goals with right and left in the mould of Bale, winner of FIFA goal of the year last year. The danger is always (with any player) whether they will fit in or not, countless players have failed to achieve after a move (Torres, Caroll etc) but regardless of the price tag it's always the risk. If we land him I will be on RiotCON 2! STID st1halo
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5:05pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done.

I will check him out later to see what he is like.
What's this deal got to do with Lovren?
Simple. If Fonte leaves, Lovren replaces Fonte. Especially as it seems Davide Astori is staying put.

I wonder if Fenerbahce would be interested in De Ridder at the same time. He clearly needs somewhere new to kick start his career.

As for Fonte, if he goes, then muito obrigado, Jose baby. He earned his corn last year when I and others thought he'd struggle.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: this makes sense - Maybe they got Lovren in with a view to getting this deal done. I will check him out later to see what he is like.[/p][/quote]What's this deal got to do with Lovren?[/p][/quote]Simple. If Fonte leaves, Lovren replaces Fonte. Especially as it seems Davide Astori is staying put. I wonder if Fenerbahce would be interested in De Ridder at the same time. He clearly needs somewhere new to kick start his career. As for Fonte, if he goes, then muito obrigado, Jose baby. He earned his corn last year when I and others thought he'd struggle. Strasbourg Saint
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5:07pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Sounds like Lala will have to up his game if this guy comes in, sounds like he shoots whilst would Lala pass
Sounds like Lala will have to up his game if this guy comes in, sounds like he shoots whilst would Lala pass Folkestone Saint
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5:10pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Redrobbo says...

I have never heard of the guy, but thats true of most of the foreigners we have signed. 'Uninspired?' He is a Full International and scores goals.Why are people so blinkered? This lad looks like he has a good pedigree. Jose will be surplus to requirements so perhaps a straight swap is on the cards. Hopefully Forren and Mayuka will come good after a full pre season, so that will be like having two new players. Can't believe the Echo still go on about these new players being MoPo's choice. We are run along the lines of clubs on the continent, he is the coach and although he has some input his is not the final say on who we buy.
I have never heard of the guy, but thats true of most of the foreigners we have signed. 'Uninspired?' He is a Full International and scores goals.Why are people so blinkered? This lad looks like he has a good pedigree. Jose will be surplus to requirements so perhaps a straight swap is on the cards. Hopefully Forren and Mayuka will come good after a full pre season, so that will be like having two new players. Can't believe the Echo still go on about these new players being MoPo's choice. We are run along the lines of clubs on the continent, he is the coach and although he has some input his is not the final say on who we buy. Redrobbo
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5:39pm Tue 18 Jun 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Will Poch scotch Stoch watch?
Will Poch scotch Stoch watch? OSPREYSAINT
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6:56pm Tue 18 Jun 13

ClemHardy1 says...

Never heard of this guy but have to trust Poch and NC. For a non-footballing man NC has pretty spot on for all his money so far. Will be sorry to see Fonte go if that is the case. Absolutely legend.
Never heard of this guy but have to trust Poch and NC. For a non-footballing man NC has pretty spot on for all his money so far. Will be sorry to see Fonte go if that is the case. Absolutely legend. ClemHardy1
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7:03pm Tue 18 Jun 13

ClemHardy1 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Will Poch scotch Stoch watch?
Where does the scotch come into it?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Will Poch scotch Stoch watch?[/p][/quote]Where does the scotch come into it? ClemHardy1
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7:06pm Tue 18 Jun 13

saintshorse101 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here.

Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted.

We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with.

Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment.

We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can.

I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk.

Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties .

In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?
we might be able to fit in a small riot, however it will have to be a small one as we have a few regulars away for the week (part-timers!!).
if MP feels this is a good deal then so be it but I for one will be sad to see jose go, he helped us get back to the prem and I think he could still be good cover.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here. Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted. We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with. Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment. We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can. I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk. Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties . In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?[/p][/quote]we might be able to fit in a small riot, however it will have to be a small one as we have a few regulars away for the week (part-timers!!). if MP feels this is a good deal then so be it but I for one will be sad to see jose go, he helped us get back to the prem and I think he could still be good cover. saintshorse101
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7:11pm Tue 18 Jun 13

ClemHardy1 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here.

Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted.

We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with.

Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment.

We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can.

I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk.

Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties .

In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?
Not sure"if that is how it works" as Cortese has never done business that way before, where he has swapped another player. Given that Fonte was used alot towards end of the season and a regular I would be a trifle surprised if we let him go. And sad too. He came to us when were in Div One and clearly too good to play in that division. Stood out from day one.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Don't know this player at all and Youtube is unreliable. I remember seeing De Ridder on You Tube and being impressed but he never really cut it here. Mind you we got Jack Cork on the back of Chelsea's inability to give him any opportunities. He was my player of the year last term. When he returned we were visibly lifted. We really have to put trust in the manager. I think he will do well. But what do I know? When a few of his own purchases are on the pitch we can judge him. In the meantime he's doing a good job with what he started with. Frankly we all know we have purchasing power, however we are still not seen as a major power .. yet .. Therfore we are unllkely to get the really well known big names, at least not for the moment. We therefore have to rely on Poch's networking and contacts and give him the chance to get the best he can. I also think that this sounds like a shrewd bit of business. We have enough CBs if the new boy is worth his salt, that mean we can use Fonte in a deal. It's good business. Thats how it all works, especially with Cortese watching the finances like a hawk. Anyway, its just a story for the moment, lets hope it works out well for all parties . In the meantime have we got time for a riot ?[/p][/quote]Not sure"if that is how it works" as Cortese has never done business that way before, where he has swapped another player. Given that Fonte was used alot towards end of the season and a regular I would be a trifle surprised if we let him go. And sad too. He came to us when were in Div One and clearly too good to play in that division. Stood out from day one. ClemHardy1
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7:14pm Tue 18 Jun 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

ClemHardy1 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Will Poch scotch Stoch watch?
Where does the scotch come into it?
to scotch = to put and end to it.
[quote][p][bold]ClemHardy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Will Poch scotch Stoch watch?[/p][/quote]Where does the scotch come into it?[/p][/quote]to scotch = to put and end to it. OSPREYSAINT
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7:20pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

I will always remember every single player who took part in that incredible journey back to the Premier League for Saints.

However, that does not mean that I will want to see them stay in the squad for the rest of their playing days. they have my respect, unreserved affection and I will always give them a cheer when I see them. But if their journey with Saints is at an end then so be it - We want to be in the upper echelons of English football, to do that we cannot hold on to players who cannot play at that level.

I love each and every player who dons the shirt as only a Saints fan can. But if it is time to go then that's it. thanks for the memories, it's been amazing but time to move on.
I will always remember every single player who took part in that incredible journey back to the Premier League for Saints. However, that does not mean that I will want to see them stay in the squad for the rest of their playing days. they have my respect, unreserved affection and I will always give them a cheer when I see them. But if their journey with Saints is at an end then so be it - We want to be in the upper echelons of English football, to do that we cannot hold on to players who cannot play at that level. I love each and every player who dons the shirt as only a Saints fan can. But if it is time to go then that's it. thanks for the memories, it's been amazing but time to move on. Stroppy_gramps
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8:09pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport says...

Another total waste of money, Cant get in a Turkish team and wont come cheap? Lets just bang it all on Red down the Casino.
Another total waste of money, Cant get in a Turkish team and wont come cheap? Lets just bang it all on Red down the Casino. Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport
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8:12pm Tue 18 Jun 13

saintshorse101 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
I will always remember every single player who took part in that incredible journey back to the Premier League for Saints.

However, that does not mean that I will want to see them stay in the squad for the rest of their playing days. they have my respect, unreserved affection and I will always give them a cheer when I see them. But if their journey with Saints is at an end then so be it - We want to be in the upper echelons of English football, to do that we cannot hold on to players who cannot play at that level.

I love each and every player who dons the shirt as only a Saints fan can. But if it is time to go then that's it. thanks for the memories, it's been amazing but time to move on.
true however some players will always be missed more than others. I like jose, always have, i think he could still play a part in the squad and would rather lose jos as i feel he is the weaker player. if MP and NC feel that its jose`s time to move on then jose its time to say thanks and good luck in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: I will always remember every single player who took part in that incredible journey back to the Premier League for Saints. However, that does not mean that I will want to see them stay in the squad for the rest of their playing days. they have my respect, unreserved affection and I will always give them a cheer when I see them. But if their journey with Saints is at an end then so be it - We want to be in the upper echelons of English football, to do that we cannot hold on to players who cannot play at that level. I love each and every player who dons the shirt as only a Saints fan can. But if it is time to go then that's it. thanks for the memories, it's been amazing but time to move on.[/p][/quote]true however some players will always be missed more than others. I like jose, always have, i think he could still play a part in the squad and would rather lose jos as i feel he is the weaker player. if MP and NC feel that its jose`s time to move on then jose its time to say thanks and good luck in the future. saintshorse101
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8:17pm Tue 18 Jun 13

HUGO A GO GO says...

It's important to note that Saints current transfer policy is the same to that of Borussia Dortmund (who coincidentally were previously advised by a certain Nicola Cortese) whereby Saints will be looking to buy young players, at decent prices where required, with a future sell on value when the reach their prime.

Dortmund look to sign players 23 yrs old or below, then sell the likes of Gotze for shed loads more.

As the report mentions, Stoch has played for Chelsea, albeit not much in the first team, but fits the mould of the Cortese vision.

£4.6m (sterling) to move from Chelsea to Fenerbache would suggest he's no mug ?!?

Looking forward to see what other players sign up to the 'project'

COYR's !!!
It's important to note that Saints current transfer policy is the same to that of Borussia Dortmund (who coincidentally were previously advised by a certain Nicola Cortese) whereby Saints will be looking to buy young players, at decent prices where required, with a future sell on value when the reach their prime. Dortmund look to sign players 23 yrs old or below, then sell the likes of Gotze for shed loads more. As the report mentions, Stoch has played for Chelsea, albeit not much in the first team, but fits the mould of the Cortese vision. £4.6m (sterling) to move from Chelsea to Fenerbache would suggest he's no mug ?!? Looking forward to see what other players sign up to the 'project' COYR's !!! HUGO A GO GO
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8:34pm Tue 18 Jun 13

St Retford says...

Arsenal away is our first game, according to some Arsenal site. BRING IT.
Arsenal away is our first game, according to some Arsenal site. BRING IT. St Retford
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8:34pm Tue 18 Jun 13

dadofmy3sons says...

If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting! dadofmy3sons
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9:16pm Tue 18 Jun 13

business-guru says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire... business-guru
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9:57pm Tue 18 Jun 13

cbuk says...

If we want to push on towards the top 8 of the premier league then we need to buy players that will put the likes of adam, rickie and punch on the bench this season. exciting times ahead.
If we want to push on towards the top 8 of the premier league then we need to buy players that will put the likes of adam, rickie and punch on the bench this season. exciting times ahead. cbuk
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10:03pm Tue 18 Jun 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
wrong steve davis played to also cover lack of pace from the center backs as with fonte or hoovield but this problem will be addressed with new defender but this is the reason puncheon did not play in the later games with yoshida out also we played fonte and hoovield so davis had to play puncheon can not do this .we used adam to drift both sides up front which effected lallanas game a bit .but the new center backs will give both wide man less defensive work .saints did create less using this system but we had a far better goal difference than most of the bottom 6 it got us over the line which is all maurico had to do last season.now its his time
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]wrong steve davis played to also cover lack of pace from the center backs as with fonte or hoovield but this problem will be addressed with new defender but this is the reason puncheon did not play in the later games with yoshida out also we played fonte and hoovield so davis had to play puncheon can not do this .we used adam to drift both sides up front which effected lallanas game a bit .but the new center backs will give both wide man less defensive work .saints did create less using this system but we had a far better goal difference than most of the bottom 6 it got us over the line which is all maurico had to do last season.now its his time saintkenny
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10:09pm Tue 18 Jun 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
i would just stick to business.your knowledge of football tactics is zero .Why not look for a business paper or perhaps portsmouth news
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]i would just stick to business.your knowledge of football tactics is zero .Why not look for a business paper or perhaps portsmouth news saintkenny
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10:26pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Santa Retfordia says...

saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
i would just stick to business.your knowledge of football tactics is zero .Why not look for a business paper or perhaps portsmouth news
Heh! Game, set and match, St Kenny. Cracking tennis.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]i would just stick to business.your knowledge of football tactics is zero .Why not look for a business paper or perhaps portsmouth news[/p][/quote]Heh! Game, set and match, St Kenny. Cracking tennis. Santa Retfordia
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10:35pm Tue 18 Jun 13

angus mc coatup says...

business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it. angus mc coatup
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10:50pm Tue 18 Jun 13

saintkenny says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
but nearing the end it was not about go out and entertain .it was about get over the line every team who lost its first 3 matches in 21 years had been relegated and we lost the first four .we had already entertained beating man city liverpool chelsea near the business end it was about getting over the line to plan for this season just look at the video after the stoke match that was all that mattered .which upset all the pompey fans one fan claimed named kent141 more glory said we would have 16 points in march must have been well gutted idiot
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.[/p][/quote]but nearing the end it was not about go out and entertain .it was about get over the line every team who lost its first 3 matches in 21 years had been relegated and we lost the first four .we had already entertained beating man city liverpool chelsea near the business end it was about getting over the line to plan for this season just look at the video after the stoke match that was all that mattered .which upset all the pompey fans one fan claimed named kent141 more glory said we would have 16 points in march must have been well gutted idiot saintkenny
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10:50pm Tue 18 Jun 13

sotoncretin says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.[/p][/quote]Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that sotoncretin
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10:57pm Tue 18 Jun 13

angus mc coatup says...

sotoncretin wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that
Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure.
[quote][p][bold]sotoncretin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.[/p][/quote]Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that[/p][/quote]Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure. angus mc coatup
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11:17pm Tue 18 Jun 13

sotoncretin says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
sotoncretin wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that
Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure.
Absolutely. We displayed a toughness that wasn't there at the start. One of those defeats (at spurs) was also v unlucky. The dire comment was ridiculous IMHO
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotoncretin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.[/p][/quote]Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that[/p][/quote]Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. We displayed a toughness that wasn't there at the start. One of those defeats (at spurs) was also v unlucky. The dire comment was ridiculous IMHO sotoncretin
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11:36pm Tue 18 Jun 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Innit. We won't have to cross a finishing line like that again for a long, long time.
Innit. We won't have to cross a finishing line like that again for a long, long time. Santa Retfordia
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12:26am Wed 19 Jun 13

saintshorse101 says...

sotoncretin wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
sotoncretin wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on.
Adam would need to up his game too.
This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team.
Jose going the other way?
Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache.
Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback.
Isn't exciting!
punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...
Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.
Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that
Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure.
Absolutely. We displayed a toughness that wasn't there at the start. One of those defeats (at spurs) was also v unlucky. The dire comment was ridiculous IMHO
and SD played a vital role in that toughness. we outplayed spuds and only lost because we couldn't score and bale could.
i get fed up with people claiming our end of season form was bad. thebooooooooere often states that NA got more points in his last 12 games then MP did, whilst that might be true, cant be bothered to check, what booooooorer forgets is we played different oppositions and under more stress in those games.
as others have said our new CB`s (inc VF) have the pace that we didn't have before. this will allow MP to play another winger instead of SD and so we become a more attacking force. a winger who can score from outside the box would be nice, as would cover/replacement for SRL.
fixtures in the morning, wonder when our home game V skates will be......... oh hang on!
[quote][p][bold]sotoncretin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotoncretin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: If we get him then he is the better player than Punch and we have a real battle for places on. Adam would need to up his game too. This is exactly the sort of competition we have to welcome into our team. Jose going the other way? Not the "other" way, but on to Fenerbache. Would rather it was Jos, but he's probably not interesting enough and we may get rid of him aswell. Albeit with not such a good deal, then we would be in the market for another centreback. Isn't exciting![/p][/quote]punch had no competition for his place but was still dropped for the run-in and the our run-in form was dire...[/p][/quote]Three wins, four draws, (three of which were away) and two defeats in the last nine games. Is hardly dire now is it.[/p][/quote]Stop throwing hard and fast facts in. You'll ruin his point if you do that[/p][/quote]Kenny's right though, we got those results under massive pressure.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. We displayed a toughness that wasn't there at the start. One of those defeats (at spurs) was also v unlucky. The dire comment was ridiculous IMHO[/p][/quote]and SD played a vital role in that toughness. we outplayed spuds and only lost because we couldn't score and bale could. i get fed up with people claiming our end of season form was bad. thebooooooooere often states that NA got more points in his last 12 games then MP did, whilst that might be true, cant be bothered to check, what booooooorer forgets is we played different oppositions and under more stress in those games. as others have said our new CB`s (inc VF) have the pace that we didn't have before. this will allow MP to play another winger instead of SD and so we become a more attacking force. a winger who can score from outside the box would be nice, as would cover/replacement for SRL. fixtures in the morning, wonder when our home game V skates will be......... oh hang on! saintshorse101
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6:06am Wed 19 Jun 13

Dubai-saints89 says...

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2344126/Re
ading-set-fight-Prem
ier-League-competiti
on-striker-Beric.htm
l

we've been linked to this fella as well
http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2344126/Re ading-set-fight-Prem ier-League-competiti on-striker-Beric.htm l we've been linked to this fella as well Dubai-saints89
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7:01am Wed 19 Jun 13

bigfella777 says...

Cant they just swap him for Guly? So far it looks like the Brazilian is here for another season
Cant they just swap him for Guly? So far it looks like the Brazilian is here for another season bigfella777
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8:49am Wed 19 Jun 13

Block 42 says...

Why are we afyer a reject? Waste of money. ..he couldn't cut it when he was at chelsea..why would he be any different with us.
Why are we afyer a reject? Waste of money. ..he couldn't cut it when he was at chelsea..why would he be any different with us. Block 42
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9:02am Wed 19 Jun 13

Sainty saint saint says...

Block 42 wrote:
Why are we afyer a reject? Waste of money. ..he couldn't cut it when he was at chelsea..why would he be any different with us.
You could say the same about Cork. And about Matic who Chelsea are now trying to buy back for MILLIONS. What about Lukaku too, who did a job for West Brom?
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: Why are we afyer a reject? Waste of money. ..he couldn't cut it when he was at chelsea..why would he be any different with us.[/p][/quote]You could say the same about Cork. And about Matic who Chelsea are now trying to buy back for MILLIONS. What about Lukaku too, who did a job for West Brom? Sainty saint saint
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10:11am Wed 19 Jun 13

SaintJD says...

Not sure we should be dabbling in the Stoch market.

That said, we did try to sign this guy when he was at Chelsea, but they said they were out of Stoch at the time.
Not sure we should be dabbling in the Stoch market. That said, we did try to sign this guy when he was at Chelsea, but they said they were out of Stoch at the time. SaintJD
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