Does Wanyama signing leave Cork out in the cold?

Daily Echo: JACK CORK JACK CORK

It’s hard to imagine one of Saints’ Premier League stars finding themselves on the bench next season but Jack Cork will be wondering whether that fate may befall him.

The signing of Victor Wanyama has been greeted by much enthusiasm and excitement at Saints, not exactly surprising given the £12m they spent on him.

The Kenyan can play in a variety of positions, but is widely accepted to be at his best as a powerhouse central midfielder.

As such it is only natural that his new teammates may wonder whose place he is going to take in the side.

Of course, competition for places is never a bad thing, and you need cover for injuries and suspensions, but Morgan Schneiderlin and Cork are looking over their shoulders now.

At £12m Wanyama is not likely to be occupying the bench for long periods at the start of the campaign and that can mean only one thing for somebody who considered themselves a first team regular last season.

What we cannot be certain about is whether Mauricio Pochettino will employ the same formation as last season, though it seems more likely than not that he will.

What we also cannot be certain about is that he is totally sold on using Wanyama in one of the two central midfield holding roles, though it seems more likely than not that he will.

There is little doubt Saints needed extra cover for Schneiderlin and Cork.

As superb as they were last season Saints were very much indebted to good fortune at keeping them fit for the majority of the campaign after Cork returned from an early injury lay off.

The only cover beyond that was Steven Davis, and he has proved that he can compete for a place further forward.

So to have three for that position and Davis as an emergency extra option looks much better, but the obvious maths is that they cannot all start.

It was a fine season for Schneiderlin and Cork. Arguably they were the stars of the show.

Schneiderlin deservedly lifted the Daily Echo player of the season award as the fans recognised his immense contribution.

Cork came third in that poll as his return from injury correlated directly with the moment Saints’ season turned for the better and they never looked back.

Now there is a new guy on the block, and he’s something of a superstar signing too.

The reason that it seems more likely that Cork is under threat than Schneidelrin is that Wanyama is not known for his passing ability.

That’s not to say he cannot do it, in the same way that Cork can too, but Schneiderlin very much is known as a cultured player who often provides that link between defence and attack.

Saints would not be the same team without that, while Cork provides very much an engine room presence, something which Wanyama has built his reputation upon too.

Therefore it seems more likely that it would be Cork to make way.

It would be extremely harsh, but also the nature of progress.

Whether Cork can turn that view around before the start of the season given the fanfare and cost of Wanyama’s arrival is hard to see.

But he can hope to get his place back in the longer term as he competes for a slot.

It’s a brutal truth of football that you should never stand still, and that sometimes can hurt the players that helped you get to where you are.

Strength in depth is what every club needs, but every player knows exactly what it means.

Not everybody can play and the test for Pochettino if he is able to replicate this across the squad will be keeping everybody happy.

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6:26am Mon 15 Jul 13

Sussex Saint says...

Who proof reads this rubbish....? Nigerian....
Who proof reads this rubbish....? Nigerian.... Sussex Saint
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6:39am Mon 15 Jul 13

Sussex Saint says...

And another thing, having just done a bit of research, Cork's passing accuracy stats range from 82%-86% depending on where you look. Suggests that he can actually pass the ball a bit.
And another thing, having just done a bit of research, Cork's passing accuracy stats range from 82%-86% depending on where you look. Suggests that he can actually pass the ball a bit. Sussex Saint
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6:56am Mon 15 Jul 13

saintgibbo says...

I don't see the point in this article i'm afraid. It's a fact that any new recruits to the squad is going to mean more competition for places. Just because Jack had a good season last year his position shouldn't be strengthened. Will we have the same story if we sign another striker asking does this mean the end for Rickie Lambert? Sorry Mr Echo i think it was wrong to single out Corkie like that.
I don't see the point in this article i'm afraid. It's a fact that any new recruits to the squad is going to mean more competition for places. Just because Jack had a good season last year his position shouldn't be strengthened. Will we have the same story if we sign another striker asking does this mean the end for Rickie Lambert? Sorry Mr Echo i think it was wrong to single out Corkie like that. saintgibbo
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7:03am Mon 15 Jul 13

saintgibbo says...

Sorry. I should have put it DOESN'T MEAN that position shouldn't be strengthened. Sorry , too much sun yesterday methinks..
Sorry. I should have put it DOESN'T MEAN that position shouldn't be strengthened. Sorry , too much sun yesterday methinks.. saintgibbo
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7:03am Mon 15 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

How much longer has Jack Cork got on his contract? Does anyone know?
How much longer has Jack Cork got on his contract? Does anyone know? Rising_Son
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7:15am Mon 15 Jul 13

damoose says...

Wrong about Victors passing ability is one of his strengths and a key reason why we wanted him

Nobody can play like Cork,when he is facing his own goal,he is one of the best at keeping possesion

I think all 3 players will rotate the defensive-midfielder position yet Victor can also play center-half and Cork can play right-back/right midfield
Wrong about Victors passing ability is one of his strengths and a key reason why we wanted him Nobody can play like Cork,when he is facing his own goal,he is one of the best at keeping possesion I think all 3 players will rotate the defensive-midfielder position yet Victor can also play center-half and Cork can play right-back/right midfield damoose
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7:15am Mon 15 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

No reason why Spider, Corky and Victor couldn't play in the same team. I'd like to see Fat Sam's bullies try it with Wanyama.
No reason why Spider, Corky and Victor couldn't play in the same team. I'd like to see Fat Sam's bullies try it with Wanyama. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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7:22am Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

I think Jack has a year and is in talks.
I also think it is more likely S.D. will lose his place than Corkie.
The last part of the season when Ponch arrived our midfield was more often than not, Adam, Jack, Morgan and Steve. With Gaston and Jason on the bench. I don't necessarily think there will be a set four in midfield we now have several options to change the midfield round according to how the opposition play.
I think Jack has a year and is in talks. I also think it is more likely S.D. will lose his place than Corkie. The last part of the season when Ponch arrived our midfield was more often than not, Adam, Jack, Morgan and Steve. With Gaston and Jason on the bench. I don't necessarily think there will be a set four in midfield we now have several options to change the midfield round according to how the opposition play. milton road
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7:24am Mon 15 Jul 13

Saintsteve7 says...

I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions.
I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions. Saintsteve7
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7:58am Mon 15 Jul 13

Rational Saint says...

This seems pretty basic, but how can you get his nationality wrong!? He's KENYAN
This seems pretty basic, but how can you get his nationality wrong!? He's KENYAN Rational Saint
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8:06am Mon 15 Jul 13

SFCOLDBOY says...

I think Adam Lallanas' place is the most at risk.
His contribution, last season was not up to his previous normal standards.
That said, it could have been playing in the Prem, may have been a massive step up.
(Injuries also haven't helped)

I also think the additional responsibility of the captainship has added pressure on him,as he sometimes overplays,i.e. to set an example to others.
Now that he has a season in the Prem and is surrounded with quality players, I hope he can relax and play like we have known that he can.
I think Adam Lallanas' place is the most at risk. His contribution, last season was not up to his previous normal standards. That said, it could have been playing in the Prem, may have been a massive step up. (Injuries also haven't helped) I also think the additional responsibility of the captainship has added pressure on him,as he sometimes overplays,i.e. to set an example to others. Now that he has a season in the Prem and is surrounded with quality players, I hope he can relax and play like we have known that he can. SFCOLDBOY
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8:09am Mon 15 Jul 13

Stnana says...

Can't believe Cork's in any danger. Osprey I see you mentioned Billy Sharp yesterday, he tweeted over the weekend that he was training on the south coast and there are also rumours of him going to Bournemouth. There is also talk of NA wanting him. I see ALF is still at Reading, I'm surprised no premier club has made a move for him.
Can't believe Cork's in any danger. Osprey I see you mentioned Billy Sharp yesterday, he tweeted over the weekend that he was training on the south coast and there are also rumours of him going to Bournemouth. There is also talk of NA wanting him. I see ALF is still at Reading, I'm surprised no premier club has made a move for him. Stnana
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8:26am Mon 15 Jul 13

The Good Doctor says...

I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing! The Good Doctor
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8:27am Mon 15 Jul 13

Sussex Saint says...

Nice to see Victor is now Kenyan.
Nice to see Victor is now Kenyan. Sussex Saint
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8:50am Mon 15 Jul 13

Costa Baz says...

According to an article on Sky Sports News, I read recently, Corks' interception and tackling stats were better, under MP, than Spiders were.

I can see all three being regular starters, with options to switch things around.

Cork could partner VW, with Spider playing ahead of them.

VW could sweep I'm front of the CBs, with JC and MS ahead of him.

VW could play as a third CB, with Shaw and Clyne becoming out and out wing backs, with JC and MS together in the centre.

Or VW could play as a CB.

So many options that will give us one of the best tackling "packs" in any league.

What we now need is/are the right player(s) to turn the possession into goals.
According to an article on Sky Sports News, I read recently, Corks' interception and tackling stats were better, under MP, than Spiders were. I can see all three being regular starters, with options to switch things around. Cork could partner VW, with Spider playing ahead of them. VW could sweep I'm front of the CBs, with JC and MS ahead of him. VW could play as a third CB, with Shaw and Clyne becoming out and out wing backs, with JC and MS together in the centre. Or VW could play as a CB. So many options that will give us one of the best tackling "packs" in any league. What we now need is/are the right player(s) to turn the possession into goals. Costa Baz
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8:51am Mon 15 Jul 13

elvis says...

Seriously .... this is newsworthy ? We struggled at the start of last season & one of the reasons for that was No Cork or perhaps to be precise no decent cover for Cork .... 2 into 3 doesnt go .... but by the end of the season the 3 of them will have had pretty much the same amount of game time . How an earth can this be a negitive !! Besides if we want to compete with the top teams we need £12m players on the bench x
Seriously .... this is newsworthy ? We struggled at the start of last season & one of the reasons for that was No Cork or perhaps to be precise no decent cover for Cork .... 2 into 3 doesnt go .... but by the end of the season the 3 of them will have had pretty much the same amount of game time . How an earth can this be a negitive !! Besides if we want to compete with the top teams we need £12m players on the bench x elvis
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8:56am Mon 15 Jul 13

EricMartin'sHat says...

Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger?

In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question.

Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not!
Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger? In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question. Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not! EricMartin'sHat
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9:06am Mon 15 Jul 13

Grampy60 says...

Agree with Elvis above ( good to see you're still alive by the way) Last season the bench was often lightweight we needed more strength in depth. Don't be surprised if Adam doesn't make the first starting eleven. This league is all about the squad not the team.
Agree with Elvis above ( good to see you're still alive by the way) Last season the bench was often lightweight we needed more strength in depth. Don't be surprised if Adam doesn't make the first starting eleven. This league is all about the squad not the team. Grampy60
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9:12am Mon 15 Jul 13

St.Yorkie says...

We often got caught out by overlapping full backs and Cork provided the cover! He has an unbelievable engine - and gets on with the job in hand with very little fuss.
His rarely gets booked, rarely misses a tackle, and outs his body on the line more than once a game to save us!
I don't see him losing his place to anyone - but he gets tired like all of us and will need resting now and again.
Isn't this a case of have some flexibility and squad rotation? Too often we were one dimensional - perhaps mixing it up a bit and being less defensive at home (with a more attacking option) would see Cork be used when we wanted to close a game out?
I agree a nonsense story speculating about one of the best players last season. Wanyama has to demonstrate his worth as far as I am concerned - £12m or not Gaston still has a lot to do yet too!
We often got caught out by overlapping full backs and Cork provided the cover! He has an unbelievable engine - and gets on with the job in hand with very little fuss. His rarely gets booked, rarely misses a tackle, and outs his body on the line more than once a game to save us! I don't see him losing his place to anyone - but he gets tired like all of us and will need resting now and again. Isn't this a case of have some flexibility and squad rotation? Too often we were one dimensional - perhaps mixing it up a bit and being less defensive at home (with a more attacking option) would see Cork be used when we wanted to close a game out? I agree a nonsense story speculating about one of the best players last season. Wanyama has to demonstrate his worth as far as I am concerned - £12m or not Gaston still has a lot to do yet too! St.Yorkie
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9:13am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

I am in awe of this thread. So far we have no WUMs and better still nobody has responded to one.

Todays spread bet .. starting from now on this thread is - what time it will be when someone responds to one. I believe I won't have to wait for long ...

One can always hope of course ...
I am in awe of this thread. So far we have no WUMs and better still nobody has responded to one. Todays spread bet .. starting from now on this thread is - what time it will be when someone responds to one. I believe I won't have to wait for long ... One can always hope of course ... Alicesdad
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9:14am Mon 15 Jul 13

skin2000 says...

No
No skin2000
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9:17am Mon 15 Jul 13

skin2000 says...

EricMartin'sHat wrote:
Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger?

In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question.

Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not!
I think his neighbour is coming in to water them.
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote: Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger? In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question. Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not![/p][/quote]I think his neighbour is coming in to water them. skin2000
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9:18am Mon 15 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal.
Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do!
Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal. Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do! OSPREYSAINT
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9:23am Mon 15 Jul 13

bigfella777 says...

Or maybe he will just sit on the bench with Gaston and Punch for 6 months and then return to Celtic.
Or maybe he will just sit on the bench with Gaston and Punch for 6 months and then return to Celtic. bigfella777
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9:29am Mon 15 Jul 13

EricMartin'sHat says...

skin2000 wrote:
EricMartin'sHat wrote:
Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger?

In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question.

Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not!
I think his neighbour is coming in to water them.
Yeah - but what if his neighbour just 'sits on the bench'? All the roses will die!
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote: Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger? In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question. Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not![/p][/quote]I think his neighbour is coming in to water them.[/p][/quote]Yeah - but what if his neighbour just 'sits on the bench'? All the roses will die! EricMartin'sHat
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9:35am Mon 15 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Agree with most here....
All 3 will play, even Steven Davis would get some game time, and all 3 will have quality stats in the Tackling & Interception areas at the end of the season.
Schneiderlin will get 7 or 8 goals this year, an improvement on last year.
Wanyama will pitch in with 2 or 3 also, even though that's not why he's been bought.
The addition of Wanyama will help to push many of the players to improve week on week, both in the defensive and midfield areas; both positions in which he is skilled.

This story was on the Basingstoke Gazette at the weekend, and seems to have been copied across to here, in the absence of any actual news, whilst the 1st team are enjoying their pre-season in Spain. (I don't beleive DE have a correspondent out there at the moment!?)
Agree with most here.... All 3 will play, even Steven Davis would get some game time, and all 3 will have quality stats in the Tackling & Interception areas at the end of the season. Schneiderlin will get 7 or 8 goals this year, an improvement on last year. Wanyama will pitch in with 2 or 3 also, even though that's not why he's been bought. The addition of Wanyama will help to push many of the players to improve week on week, both in the defensive and midfield areas; both positions in which he is skilled. This story was on the Basingstoke Gazette at the weekend, and seems to have been copied across to here, in the absence of any actual news, whilst the 1st team are enjoying their pre-season in Spain. (I don't beleive DE have a correspondent out there at the moment!?) Five Trophies Between Us
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9:37am Mon 15 Jul 13

SouthamptonLegend says...

Keep up Echo. And where would you say Davis plays if its not centre midfield ffs!? Davis should be more worried than Cork!!!

And the idea of playing Morgan, wanyama and Cork together is ridiculous... Where is the creativity going to come from?? They're all defensive midfielders...

The obvious midfield selection would be Morgan and Victor in the middle, both swapping the anchor man role with Ramirez behind Lambert and Lallana and someone else on the wings. So fuuck off echo with your **** reporting
Keep up Echo. And where would you say Davis plays if its not centre midfield ffs!? Davis should be more worried than Cork!!! And the idea of playing Morgan, wanyama and Cork together is ridiculous... Where is the creativity going to come from?? They're all defensive midfielders... The obvious midfield selection would be Morgan and Victor in the middle, both swapping the anchor man role with Ramirez behind Lambert and Lallana and someone else on the wings. So fuuck off echo with your **** reporting SouthamptonLegend
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9:49am Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Cue thebooooorer with another rant about NC putting a perfectly good midfielder out of work. It will say that NC shouldn't pay corky while he's on the bench and corky will have to sue NC to get his money and NC is such a bad bad man, it will call him a shyster, that he doesn't care about these poor footballers who have given years of service to the club with little reward.

Back in the real world, I don't think either corky or spider will need to worry, in skys great piece about us signing VW despite already having a strong midfield it says that under MP's style midfielders have to work extra hard and it wouldn't be a surprise to see 3 central midfielders playing together.
Cue thebooooorer with another rant about NC putting a perfectly good midfielder out of work. It will say that NC shouldn't pay corky while he's on the bench and corky will have to sue NC to get his money and NC is such a bad bad man, it will call him a shyster, that he doesn't care about these poor footballers who have given years of service to the club with little reward. Back in the real world, I don't think either corky or spider will need to worry, in skys great piece about us signing VW despite already having a strong midfield it says that under MP's style midfielders have to work extra hard and it wouldn't be a surprise to see 3 central midfielders playing together. el caballo santos101
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9:50am Mon 15 Jul 13

CeekaySaint says...

If that's the best photo of Jack that the Echo can find then please can I have a job? Looks like a great signing from this part of the globe...just need the extra striker now and then top ten here we come..
If that's the best photo of Jack that the Echo can find then please can I have a job? Looks like a great signing from this part of the globe...just need the extra striker now and then top ten here we come.. CeekaySaint
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9:56am Mon 15 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Saintsteve7 wrote:
I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions.
I have been on here before bemoaning the fact that we brought VW when we were already well served in central midfield. But you could be right: all 3 could play with Morgan further forward. There is no one in the team who can pick a pass better than him and he would be better deployed ahead of JC and VW. On paper this looks formidable but I still think we need a wide player and striker.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsteve7[/bold] wrote: I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions.[/p][/quote]I have been on here before bemoaning the fact that we brought VW when we were already well served in central midfield. But you could be right: all 3 could play with Morgan further forward. There is no one in the team who can pick a pass better than him and he would be better deployed ahead of JC and VW. On paper this looks formidable but I still think we need a wide player and striker. right back in the bar
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10:03am Mon 15 Jul 13

Saintsteve7 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Saintsteve7 wrote:
I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions.
I have been on here before bemoaning the fact that we brought VW when we were already well served in central midfield. But you could be right: all 3 could play with Morgan further forward. There is no one in the team who can pick a pass better than him and he would be better deployed ahead of JC and VW. On paper this looks formidable but I still think we need a wide player and striker.
I think towards the end of the season MP showed, with Steven Davis playing more often than not, that he like 3 workers/ball winners in the middle of the park.
We all sing Morgans praises, and rightly so, for the way he wins the ball back but he deserves far more credit for being an excellent all round midfield player and I really don't see why, operating a slightly further up the pitch, he can't c
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsteve7[/bold] wrote: I think more often than not all 3 of them will play. This will probably see Morgan shift a bit further forward in a bid to add to his 5 goals from last season. Steven Davis would be the player to suffer more next season if this happens but as said previously this is the cost of progress. One thing is for sure we will certainly have greater flexibility next season and be able to cope pretty well with injuries and suspensions.[/p][/quote]I have been on here before bemoaning the fact that we brought VW when we were already well served in central midfield. But you could be right: all 3 could play with Morgan further forward. There is no one in the team who can pick a pass better than him and he would be better deployed ahead of JC and VW. On paper this looks formidable but I still think we need a wide player and striker.[/p][/quote]I think towards the end of the season MP showed, with Steven Davis playing more often than not, that he like 3 workers/ball winners in the middle of the park. We all sing Morgans praises, and rightly so, for the way he wins the ball back but he deserves far more credit for being an excellent all round midfield player and I really don't see why, operating a slightly further up the pitch, he can't c Saintsteve7
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10:05am Mon 15 Jul 13

Saintsteve7 says...

he can't get 8 to 10 goals yet maintain his impressive work rate and interception stats.
Agree though I still think we need to add some raw pace to the flanks. Still think a rejuvenated Scott Sinclair could be the man.
he can't get 8 to 10 goals yet maintain his impressive work rate and interception stats. Agree though I still think we need to add some raw pace to the flanks. Still think a rejuvenated Scott Sinclair could be the man. Saintsteve7
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10:23am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

At some stage we will need an additional striker. The simple fact is we rely on RL and have no effective cover if he gets injured. We may be very hard to beat with a dominant midfield and defence .. but we do need to score goals ... I have every confidence that MoPo is on the case.
At some stage we will need an additional striker. The simple fact is we rely on RL and have no effective cover if he gets injured. We may be very hard to beat with a dominant midfield and defence .. but we do need to score goals ... I have every confidence that MoPo is on the case. Alicesdad
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10:25am Mon 15 Jul 13

Confucious says...

The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
[quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts. Confucious
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10:27am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team.

It's all there , what's not to like !!!
I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team. It's all there , what's not to like !!! Alicesdad
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10:36am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
He posts a lot of stuff like this. So welcome to the strange world of Saints threads.

On average Confucious makes a change from the ranting masses and his statistical logic is flawless. He is a high functioning standard deviant and it seems you have started in his good books. It is as well that you have been warned about the stripes debate, just leave it.... Concentrate on the true purpose and just wander in and out and have a chat now and then ....
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]He posts a lot of stuff like this. So welcome to the strange world of Saints threads. On average Confucious makes a change from the ranting masses and his statistical logic is flawless. He is a high functioning standard deviant and it seems you have started in his good books. It is as well that you have been warned about the stripes debate, just leave it.... Concentrate on the true purpose and just wander in and out and have a chat now and then .... Alicesdad
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10:43am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit .. Alicesdad
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10:44am Mon 15 Jul 13

costa gaz says...

"" At £12m Wanyama is not likely to be occupying the bench""


Valued at £12m and £15m Cork and Schniederlin would not be sitting on the bench either.
MP has a card up his sleeve here and we are all going to raise our eyebrows when the season starts.
"" At £12m Wanyama is not likely to be occupying the bench"" Valued at £12m and £15m Cork and Schniederlin would not be sitting on the bench either. MP has a card up his sleeve here and we are all going to raise our eyebrows when the season starts. costa gaz
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10:44am Mon 15 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

I think MP will play all three of them for a considerable number of games. Davis is the one who will miss out, although I think he is excellent back up and is the kind of player who potentially could push the starting three quite hard or offer an option.

Three solid midfielders in front of a solid defence makes us very difficult to beat and gives the attacking three a platform to push on even more.
I think MP will play all three of them for a considerable number of games. Davis is the one who will miss out, although I think he is excellent back up and is the kind of player who potentially could push the starting three quite hard or offer an option. Three solid midfielders in front of a solid defence makes us very difficult to beat and gives the attacking three a platform to push on even more. SaintJD
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10:45am Mon 15 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back."
Moreover... where are my pills?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back." Moreover... where are my pills? Dave Juson
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10:48am Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Cork and spider will start the first game of the Prem barring injury. VW will be on the bench and will have to compete for a place in the team. I would have thought this is pretty obvious. Cork had one duff game in his last 10 and thats way over acceptable.
Cork and spider will start the first game of the Prem barring injury. VW will be on the bench and will have to compete for a place in the team. I would have thought this is pretty obvious. Cork had one duff game in his last 10 and thats way over acceptable. business-guru
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10:52am Mon 15 Jul 13

Dickosfc says...

Can’t see this as a bad article. It’s created some cracking comments! A good football debate is what this forum’s about.

Having Schneiderlin, Cork and Wanyama is a seriously strong hand!! Can’t wait for the Season to start now. I’m also predicting a call up to the French national side for Schneiderlin.
Can’t see this as a bad article. It’s created some cracking comments! A good football debate is what this forum’s about. Having Schneiderlin, Cork and Wanyama is a seriously strong hand!! Can’t wait for the Season to start now. I’m also predicting a call up to the French national side for Schneiderlin. Dickosfc
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10:57am Mon 15 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
no - no at all. all 3 playing is a narrow formation with reduced options for wide players. NC is not bad at getting forward and maybe we will see more of LS doing that next season but we could do with wide players further forward to create chances; so it is not obvious.
[quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]no - no at all. all 3 playing is a narrow formation with reduced options for wide players. NC is not bad at getting forward and maybe we will see more of LS doing that next season but we could do with wide players further forward to create chances; so it is not obvious. right back in the bar
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10:59am Mon 15 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

Of course the name nobody has mentioned here is JWP. Where does the signing leave him?

Clearly he's quality, but if he's looking for the first team chance he deserves it would seem chances will be even more limited or that someone else will drop out.

I wouldn't like to see him loaned out, but he deserves to be playing competitive football so he can reach his potential.

Plus, if you look at our midfield three - all are young and improving, so who do you leave out for JWP?

I wouldn't be astonished if we got a big bid for Spider in the coming days.
Of course the name nobody has mentioned here is JWP. Where does the signing leave him? Clearly he's quality, but if he's looking for the first team chance he deserves it would seem chances will be even more limited or that someone else will drop out. I wouldn't like to see him loaned out, but he deserves to be playing competitive football so he can reach his potential. Plus, if you look at our midfield three - all are young and improving, so who do you leave out for JWP? I wouldn't be astonished if we got a big bid for Spider in the coming days. SaintJD
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11:01am Mon 15 Jul 13

promised land says...

How many times have we heard, from the likes of Man U, Man city, Chelsea, look at the players on the bench, they could walk in to any premier team. Now we are starting to produce a squad to receive the same comments. Bring it on !
How many times have we heard, from the likes of Man U, Man city, Chelsea, look at the players on the bench, they could walk in to any premier team. Now we are starting to produce a squad to receive the same comments. Bring it on ! promised land
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11:01am Mon 15 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal.
Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do!
The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal. Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do![/p][/quote]The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.). Rising_Son
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11:07am Mon 15 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back."
Moreover... where are my pills?
I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back." Moreover... where are my pills?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane. Clever Dick
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11:23am Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

I often read these threads but have never felt the need to comment. However, the extent to which people simply 'haven't got' MoPo's style has forced me to take to the keyboard.

Of COURSE the plan is to play all three together. If an opposition player has the ball then, no matter where they are on the pitch, one of these three will find them and get it off them. They are going to seriously f*** people over and make it the most exciting season we've had for 30 years.
I often read these threads but have never felt the need to comment. However, the extent to which people simply 'haven't got' MoPo's style has forced me to take to the keyboard. Of COURSE the plan is to play all three together. If an opposition player has the ball then, no matter where they are on the pitch, one of these three will find them and get it off them. They are going to seriously f*** people over and make it the most exciting season we've had for 30 years. Santa Retfordia
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11:30am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back."
Moreover... where are my pills?
I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.
Stop the clock ! It was all going so well too.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back." Moreover... where are my pills?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.[/p][/quote]Stop the clock ! It was all going so well too. Alicesdad
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11:34am Mon 15 Jul 13

Stnana says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back."
Moreover... where are my pills?
I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.
There's no way you're only average Confucious ! You did forget to mention ,however,that to fit in the doctor will also need to regularly blame Guly and Fox as well as predict a riot !
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back." Moreover... where are my pills?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.[/p][/quote]There's no way you're only average Confucious ! You did forget to mention ,however,that to fit in the doctor will also need to regularly blame Guly and Fox as well as predict a riot ! Stnana
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11:35am Mon 15 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Yes, I see a triumvirate in the middle two attacking wide player and one up front. Cork is far to good to be on the bench as is Morgan. Can we buy right back and p/x Fox for someone better now please. Then for me, another attacking option might be an idea but I DO NOT want to see signings to the detriment of the progress of our young English players. At the moment Cork and Lambert should be in the National Squad and Shaw, Clyne, Ward Prowse and Rodriguez should be fast tracked to follow them in. For that to happen, they need to play regular football.
Yes, I see a triumvirate in the middle two attacking wide player and one up front. Cork is far to good to be on the bench as is Morgan. Can we buy right back and p/x Fox for someone better now please. Then for me, another attacking option might be an idea but I DO NOT want to see signings to the detriment of the progress of our young English players. At the moment Cork and Lambert should be in the National Squad and Shaw, Clyne, Ward Prowse and Rodriguez should be fast tracked to follow them in. For that to happen, they need to play regular football. Crispinmumbles
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11:35am Mon 15 Jul 13

Saintsteve7 says...

One things for sure if all 3 do play then not many premier league midfields will be winning that area of the pitch.
One things for sure if all 3 do play then not many premier league midfields will be winning that area of the pitch. Saintsteve7
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11:41am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
I often read these threads but have never felt the need to comment. However, the extent to which people simply 'haven't got' MoPo's style has forced me to take to the keyboard.

Of COURSE the plan is to play all three together. If an opposition player has the ball then, no matter where they are on the pitch, one of these three will find them and get it off them. They are going to seriously f*** people over and make it the most exciting season we've had for 30 years.
Nothing like a bit of in depth analysis.

I hope you are right.

;-)
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: I often read these threads but have never felt the need to comment. However, the extent to which people simply 'haven't got' MoPo's style has forced me to take to the keyboard. Of COURSE the plan is to play all three together. If an opposition player has the ball then, no matter where they are on the pitch, one of these three will find them and get it off them. They are going to seriously f*** people over and make it the most exciting season we've had for 30 years.[/p][/quote]Nothing like a bit of in depth analysis. I hope you are right. ;-) Alicesdad
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11:41am Mon 15 Jul 13

Mush On The Beach says...

SaintJD wrote:
Of course the name nobody has mentioned here is JWP. Where does the signing leave him?

Clearly he's quality, but if he's looking for the first team chance he deserves it would seem chances will be even more limited or that someone else will drop out.

I wouldn't like to see him loaned out, but he deserves to be playing competitive football so he can reach his potential.

Plus, if you look at our midfield three - all are young and improving, so who do you leave out for JWP?

I wouldn't be astonished if we got a big bid for Spider in the coming days.
I thought the same about Schneiderlin, Arsene Wenger appears to be struggling to pull off his main targets like Higuain. This will not go down well with Gooners fans and he may try and deflect the attention short term by reinstating his interest in Spider.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Of course the name nobody has mentioned here is JWP. Where does the signing leave him? Clearly he's quality, but if he's looking for the first team chance he deserves it would seem chances will be even more limited or that someone else will drop out. I wouldn't like to see him loaned out, but he deserves to be playing competitive football so he can reach his potential. Plus, if you look at our midfield three - all are young and improving, so who do you leave out for JWP? I wouldn't be astonished if we got a big bid for Spider in the coming days.[/p][/quote]I thought the same about Schneiderlin, Arsene Wenger appears to be struggling to pull off his main targets like Higuain. This will not go down well with Gooners fans and he may try and deflect the attention short term by reinstating his interest in Spider. Mush On The Beach
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11:47am Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team.

It's all there , what's not to like !!!
alicesdad do you often find yourself singing as well? I do and even more so at games when I often seem to be happy clapping and singing all at the same time. so why are we not happy clappy singers? I think that would a more appropriate way to describe us.
so from now on I am a proud badge wearing happy clappy singer!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team. It's all there , what's not to like !!![/p][/quote]alicesdad do you often find yourself singing as well? I do and even more so at games when I often seem to be happy clapping and singing all at the same time. so why are we not happy clappy singers? I think that would a more appropriate way to describe us. so from now on I am a proud badge wearing happy clappy singer! el caballo santos101
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11:48am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Breaking news ! .. er .. um ... aha! OK there isn't any... but this was an exclusive .. you read it here first ...

I love the Echo. I reckon its what that cartoonist bloke modelled the Daily Planet on. It's no coincidence that since they did away with phone boxes in the city there have been very few sightings of Superman in Southampton.

I expect he has been sponsored by Adidas so has a different outfit these days.
Breaking news ! .. er .. um ... aha! OK there isn't any... but this was an exclusive .. you read it here first ... I love the Echo. I reckon its what that cartoonist bloke modelled the Daily Planet on. It's no coincidence that since they did away with phone boxes in the city there have been very few sightings of Superman in Southampton. I expect he has been sponsored by Adidas so has a different outfit these days. Alicesdad
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11:51am Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team.

It's all there , what's not to like !!!
alicesdad do you often find yourself singing as well? I do and even more so at games when I often seem to be happy clapping and singing all at the same time. so why are we not happy clappy singers? I think that would a more appropriate way to describe us.
so from now on I am a proud badge wearing happy clappy singer!
Indeed.. LOUDER !!!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I love being a happy clapper. After deep contemplation of the way this is used as an insult from time to time, I now conculde that 1) I am happy and 2) I like to clap .. and I have faith in the leadership and the team. It's all there , what's not to like !!![/p][/quote]alicesdad do you often find yourself singing as well? I do and even more so at games when I often seem to be happy clapping and singing all at the same time. so why are we not happy clappy singers? I think that would a more appropriate way to describe us. so from now on I am a proud badge wearing happy clappy singer![/p][/quote]Indeed.. LOUDER !!! Alicesdad
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12:11pm Mon 15 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Yes, I see a triumvirate in the middle two attacking wide player and one up front. Cork is far to good to be on the bench as is Morgan. Can we buy right back and p/x Fox for someone better now please. Then for me, another attacking option might be an idea but I DO NOT want to see signings to the detriment of the progress of our young English players. At the moment Cork and Lambert should be in the National Squad and Shaw, Clyne, Ward Prowse and Rodriguez should be fast tracked to follow them in. For that to happen, they need to play regular football.
Yep. If you look at our squad and the top young players in most positions it is very exciting.

A top class winger and target man now and we are looking fantastic.

Now Forren is gone though I wonder if we'll bring in another top class centre back too.

Personally, if we were only to make one more signing this season I think we'd be in great shape. Needs to be a top quality Rickie alternative. Other than that we're sorted.

Re Fox, I wonder if he's seen in the same role as Kelvin - big, confident experienced personalities within the dressing room and around the squad who might not play much but are good for the kids development.
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Yes, I see a triumvirate in the middle two attacking wide player and one up front. Cork is far to good to be on the bench as is Morgan. Can we buy right back and p/x Fox for someone better now please. Then for me, another attacking option might be an idea but I DO NOT want to see signings to the detriment of the progress of our young English players. At the moment Cork and Lambert should be in the National Squad and Shaw, Clyne, Ward Prowse and Rodriguez should be fast tracked to follow them in. For that to happen, they need to play regular football.[/p][/quote]Yep. If you look at our squad and the top young players in most positions it is very exciting. A top class winger and target man now and we are looking fantastic. Now Forren is gone though I wonder if we'll bring in another top class centre back too. Personally, if we were only to make one more signing this season I think we'd be in great shape. Needs to be a top quality Rickie alternative. Other than that we're sorted. Re Fox, I wonder if he's seen in the same role as Kelvin - big, confident experienced personalities within the dressing room and around the squad who might not play much but are good for the kids development. SaintJD
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12:28pm Mon 15 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal.
Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do!
The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).
That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal. Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do![/p][/quote]The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).[/p][/quote]That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match. OSPREYSAINT
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12:28pm Mon 15 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

It's nice to see lots of positive and friendly posts and even better no response to you know who? Maybe he can be buried in a wall down there somewhere?
It's nice to see lots of positive and friendly posts and even better no response to you know who? Maybe he can be buried in a wall down there somewhere? DisplacedFan
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12:31pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes. Confucious
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1:02pm Mon 15 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
He posts a lot of stuff like this. So welcome to the strange world of Saints threads.

On average Confucious makes a change from the ranting masses and his statistical logic is flawless. He is a high functioning standard deviant and it seems you have started in his good books. It is as well that you have been warned about the stripes debate, just leave it.... Concentrate on the true purpose and just wander in and out and have a chat now and then ....
I agree, the Good doctor should post more often.

Alice is the resident spotter, constantly on the lookout for riots so that position is taken I'm afraid GD, he keeps us on riot alert status. Should one actually happen we will need a medic so you are very welcome.

No stripes? Whaddiya mean?


STID
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]He posts a lot of stuff like this. So welcome to the strange world of Saints threads. On average Confucious makes a change from the ranting masses and his statistical logic is flawless. He is a high functioning standard deviant and it seems you have started in his good books. It is as well that you have been warned about the stripes debate, just leave it.... Concentrate on the true purpose and just wander in and out and have a chat now and then ....[/p][/quote]I agree, the Good doctor should post more often. Alice is the resident spotter, constantly on the lookout for riots so that position is taken I'm afraid GD, he keeps us on riot alert status. Should one actually happen we will need a medic so you are very welcome. No stripes? Whaddiya mean? STID st1halo
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1:02pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

I think smart kits may assemble and shout "RIP OFF" outside the Saints Shop after realising they are paying more than Adults for their Saints shorts before VAT... A mate of mine just pointed this out on FB....there is no VAT on kids clothing so they are getting royaly shafted by SFC....
I think smart kits may assemble and shout "RIP OFF" outside the Saints Shop after realising they are paying more than Adults for their Saints shorts before VAT... A mate of mine just pointed this out on FB....there is no VAT on kids clothing so they are getting royaly shafted by SFC.... business-guru
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1:08pm Mon 15 Jul 13

TEBOURBA says...

Signing the very reluctant to sign, very, picky, Wanyama and paying his agent a fistful, certainly does not leave Jack out in the cold.
Jack can always play in goal, where I'm sure he would perform better than any one of the over the hill, carpet bagger or novice keepers that we have on the books.
Wake up MP--- we need PL world class keeper now!!
Don't wait until we are relegated which was the fate of your last Club!!
Nicola took pity on you and got you off the Dole Queue -- don't let him down !!!, you will find that occasionally he gets a bit nasty when he thinks someone has let him down, even when they haven't, like Alan and Nigel.
What goes around comes around --- give it a month or two in to the new season and MP AND all you doubters will discover that, as always, I am right.
Signing the very reluctant to sign, very, picky, Wanyama and paying his agent a fistful, certainly does not leave Jack out in the cold. Jack can always play in goal, where I'm sure he would perform better than any one of the over the hill, carpet bagger or novice keepers that we have on the books. Wake up MP--- we need PL world class keeper now!! Don't wait until we are relegated which was the fate of your last Club!! Nicola took pity on you and got you off the Dole Queue -- don't let him down !!!, you will find that occasionally he gets a bit nasty when he thinks someone has let him down, even when they haven't, like Alan and Nigel. What goes around comes around --- give it a month or two in to the new season and MP AND all you doubters will discover that, as always, I am right. TEBOURBA
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1:14pm Mon 15 Jul 13

JimmyLondon says...

No reason at all why we cannot play cork and wanyama and the two holding midfielders with Spider in front of them. that would be an amazing core midfield. you then have gaston or lanana on one side and either jay or puncheon on the other side and rickie up top.
No reason at all why we cannot play cork and wanyama and the two holding midfielders with Spider in front of them. that would be an amazing core midfield. you then have gaston or lanana on one side and either jay or puncheon on the other side and rickie up top. JimmyLondon
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1:15pm Mon 15 Jul 13

notaclue says...

I saw some article that said that Cork's stats were better than Spidermans if you start them when MoPo took over the team.
There is no doubt that Cork should have a big part to play this season, because this relentless pressing style of play means fresh legs will be required a lot during games.
I saw some article that said that Cork's stats were better than Spidermans if you start them when MoPo took over the team. There is no doubt that Cork should have a big part to play this season, because this relentless pressing style of play means fresh legs will be required a lot during games. notaclue
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1:19pm Mon 15 Jul 13

st1halo says...

doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment.

He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him

STID
doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment. He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him STID st1halo
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1:23pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
So how come wasps have been allowed to keep their stripes when we are now expected to swear allegiance to shirts with no stripes and a white band around the sleeves. Im still not over the shock of red shorts from last year. This is one major fashion faux pas. It's a good job it wasn't a black band or we'd end up with a whole team of captains.

When Don Cortese hears there are wasps not in regulation adidas kit, they will be banned. Unless of course the wasps have white wings in which case I suggest putting a couple of nests in the away supporters area.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]So how come wasps have been allowed to keep their stripes when we are now expected to swear allegiance to shirts with no stripes and a white band around the sleeves. Im still not over the shock of red shorts from last year. This is one major fashion faux pas. It's a good job it wasn't a black band or we'd end up with a whole team of captains. When Don Cortese hears there are wasps not in regulation adidas kit, they will be banned. Unless of course the wasps have white wings in which case I suggest putting a couple of nests in the away supporters area. Alicesdad
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1:42pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal.
Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do!
The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).
That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match.
I was just wondering. Whichever way makes sense. I suppose it comes down to whether you believe that you can control the game by playing your way or whether you feel you need to adapt to cope with the opposition's way.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal. Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do![/p][/quote]The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).[/p][/quote]That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match.[/p][/quote]I was just wondering. Whichever way makes sense. I suppose it comes down to whether you believe that you can control the game by playing your way or whether you feel you need to adapt to cope with the opposition's way. Rising_Son
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1:46pm Mon 15 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment.

He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him

STID
It is odd that the thread suddenly got worse just after 1-00 pm, why?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment. He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him STID[/p][/quote]It is odd that the thread suddenly got worse just after 1-00 pm, why? OSPREYSAINT
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1:51pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta. Santa Retfordia
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1:54pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Licky_Rambert says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote: doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment. He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him STID
It is odd that the thread suddenly got worse just after 1-00 pm, why?
its when the unemployed skates wake up....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: doctor, the person that commented at 1.08 is in need of your attention, your first assignment. He is in fact, none other than Peter Schmichael touting fo some work for Casper, hope yo can help him STID[/p][/quote]It is odd that the thread suddenly got worse just after 1-00 pm, why?[/p][/quote]its when the unemployed skates wake up.... Licky_Rambert
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2:05pm Mon 15 Jul 13

TottonStag says...

Amazes me how the Echo are almost desperate not to write anything positive about Southampton.

How on earth have you managed to turn a selection dilemma into a bad thing? It's every club's dream to have 2 or more players for every position and now you have Cork, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davies etc all competing for the same places in the team and the Echo suggest this is terrible.

Baffling.
Amazes me how the Echo are almost desperate not to write anything positive about Southampton. How on earth have you managed to turn a selection dilemma into a bad thing? It's every club's dream to have 2 or more players for every position and now you have Cork, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davies etc all competing for the same places in the team and the Echo suggest this is terrible. Baffling. TottonStag
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2:07pm Mon 15 Jul 13

lowe esteem says...

costa gaz wrote:
"" At £12m Wanyama is not likely to be occupying the bench""


Valued at £12m and £15m Cork and Schniederlin would not be sitting on the bench either.
MP has a card up his sleeve here and we are all going to raise our eyebrows when the season starts.
What value do you have to be to avoid sitting on the current Saints bench?
this is an area where our expectations are already being challenged.
As it is, it would seem apparent that you do have to waste a good degree of money to be considered a top team these days. So on that count alone, we have started well with Forren.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: "" At £12m Wanyama is not likely to be occupying the bench"" Valued at £12m and £15m Cork and Schniederlin would not be sitting on the bench either. MP has a card up his sleeve here and we are all going to raise our eyebrows when the season starts.[/p][/quote]What value do you have to be to avoid sitting on the current Saints bench? this is an area where our expectations are already being challenged. As it is, it would seem apparent that you do have to waste a good degree of money to be considered a top team these days. So on that count alone, we have started well with Forren. lowe esteem
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2:08pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific. Confucious
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2:14pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Dickosfc says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Signing the very reluctant to sign, very, picky, Wanyama and paying his agent a fistful, certainly does not leave Jack out in the cold.
Jack can always play in goal, where I'm sure he would perform better than any one of the over the hill, carpet bagger or novice keepers that we have on the books.
Wake up MP--- we need PL world class keeper now!!
Don't wait until we are relegated which was the fate of your last Club!!
Nicola took pity on you and got you off the Dole Queue -- don't let him down !!!, you will find that occasionally he gets a bit nasty when he thinks someone has let him down, even when they haven't, like Alan and Nigel.
What goes around comes around --- give it a month or two in to the new season and MP AND all you doubters will discover that, as always, I am right.
Your actually pretty funny!!
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Signing the very reluctant to sign, very, picky, Wanyama and paying his agent a fistful, certainly does not leave Jack out in the cold. Jack can always play in goal, where I'm sure he would perform better than any one of the over the hill, carpet bagger or novice keepers that we have on the books. Wake up MP--- we need PL world class keeper now!! Don't wait until we are relegated which was the fate of your last Club!! Nicola took pity on you and got you off the Dole Queue -- don't let him down !!!, you will find that occasionally he gets a bit nasty when he thinks someone has let him down, even when they haven't, like Alan and Nigel. What goes around comes around --- give it a month or two in to the new season and MP AND all you doubters will discover that, as always, I am right.[/p][/quote]Your actually pretty funny!! Dickosfc
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2:19pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed.

In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.[/p][/quote]I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed. In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day. Santa Retfordia
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2:25pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Dickosfc says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal.
Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do!
The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).
That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match.
I was just wondering. Whichever way makes sense. I suppose it comes down to whether you believe that you can control the game by playing your way or whether you feel you need to adapt to cope with the opposition's way.
Some good points there. Funny how West Brom is our first game, for me they were the only team that convincingly beat us both times last season. Would love to see Pochetinno get it right straight from the off.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Only eleven players can start each game MoPo will select his first eleven according to the Team which we are playing, it won't be the same eleven week after week, we have to have options, I am sure Cork is aware that he is part of the squad, if he wants to be the first on the Team sheet he has to do the business when he gets picked, if he doesn't someone else will take his place. There will be injuries to individuals, in which case we need some equal or better to step up. Some players may not get a regular game and naturally will feel the need to go where they will get chosen. That is natural, not a scandal. Whatever happens they are all being well paid for whatever it is they do![/p][/quote]The impression I got looking at PM's team selections was that he likes stability and doesn't change the team very much unless it's necessary (injuries, suspensions, etc.).[/p][/quote]That makes a good deal of sense, but some sides need a different approach from us, because not all sides are in the same class and play to their strengths which we have to match.[/p][/quote]I was just wondering. Whichever way makes sense. I suppose it comes down to whether you believe that you can control the game by playing your way or whether you feel you need to adapt to cope with the opposition's way.[/p][/quote]Some good points there. Funny how West Brom is our first game, for me they were the only team that convincingly beat us both times last season. Would love to see Pochetinno get it right straight from the off. Dickosfc
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2:34pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

jack did play on the right for burnley either he or victor can rotate but mp did play 3 in the middle near the end so he may opt to swap davis for victor in that formation ,but it does make the squad stronger at the start we lost cork we could of done with victor then to come in .There you can see where the squad is now much better .take out the first 10 games with jack back we would of finished on 50 plus points .couple of more faces to come we can have a go get the 40 points then just have a go . earlier the better looking at fulham and swasea last season both just faded once they were secure .but the status is the main thing and the riches it brings
jack did play on the right for burnley either he or victor can rotate but mp did play 3 in the middle near the end so he may opt to swap davis for victor in that formation ,but it does make the squad stronger at the start we lost cork we could of done with victor then to come in .There you can see where the squad is now much better .take out the first 10 games with jack back we would of finished on 50 plus points .couple of more faces to come we can have a go get the 40 points then just have a go . earlier the better looking at fulham and swasea last season both just faded once they were secure .but the status is the main thing and the riches it brings saintkenny
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2:39pm Mon 15 Jul 13

mbetts says...

Great how an article has a 1 word answer, no!

Does the Echo have an agenda of stirring up trouble in the club?

Adding extra payers in the team is only going to strengthen it, creating serious competition for places which we haven't seen in years, yet this only ever gets spun round to try and generate a reaction from the fans, maybe the story should have been, Will competition for places drive the club forward?
Great how an article has a 1 word answer, no! Does the Echo have an agenda of stirring up trouble in the club? Adding extra payers in the team is only going to strengthen it, creating serious competition for places which we haven't seen in years, yet this only ever gets spun round to try and generate a reaction from the fans, maybe the story should have been, Will competition for places drive the club forward? mbetts
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2:49pm Mon 15 Jul 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

stupid story
stupid story likewatchingbrazil
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3:17pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Echo, if you've not got a story, don't make up obvious rubbish.
Slow news day or what!
Echo, if you've not got a story, don't make up obvious rubbish. Slow news day or what! Mister E
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3:29pm Mon 15 Jul 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

business-guru wrote:
I think smart kits may assemble and shout "RIP OFF" outside the Saints Shop after realising they are paying more than Adults for their Saints shorts before VAT... A mate of mine just pointed this out on FB....there is no VAT on kids clothing so they are getting royaly shafted by SFC....
Thats smart business by NC.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: I think smart kits may assemble and shout "RIP OFF" outside the Saints Shop after realising they are paying more than Adults for their Saints shorts before VAT... A mate of mine just pointed this out on FB....there is no VAT on kids clothing so they are getting royaly shafted by SFC....[/p][/quote]Thats smart business by NC. CB FRY LIVES
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3:46pm Mon 15 Jul 13

SFC1984 says...

Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side SFC1984
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3:51pm Mon 15 Jul 13

up saints says...

SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
i sure why gaston should start guessing the 12mil price tag swap him for lambo
[quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]i sure why gaston should start guessing the 12mil price tag swap him for lambo up saints
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3:58pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed.

In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.
Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people.

My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.[/p][/quote]I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed. In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.[/p][/quote]Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people. My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out. Confucious
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4:11pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Confucious says...

The club are making a big mistake getting the players to do a lot of weightlifting in Spain.

If they keep making them pick things up and then put them back down again, it will make the players stronger, but I think it will also make them very indecisive.
The club are making a big mistake getting the players to do a lot of weightlifting in Spain. If they keep making them pick things up and then put them back down again, it will make the players stronger, but I think it will also make them very indecisive. Confucious
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4:17pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
[quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will... business-guru
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4:21pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed.

In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.
Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people.

My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out.
I'm against riots. You work up a fabulous thirst, then you find that all the pubs have been boarded up!
I suppose we could organise a demonstration demanding that pubs stay open during riots, but I'd spend the entire duration of the protest worried that it might turn into a riot and end up with all the pubs being boarded up.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.[/p][/quote]I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed. In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.[/p][/quote]Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people. My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out.[/p][/quote]I'm against riots. You work up a fabulous thirst, then you find that all the pubs have been boarded up! I suppose we could organise a demonstration demanding that pubs stay open during riots, but I'd spend the entire duration of the protest worried that it might turn into a riot and end up with all the pubs being boarded up. Dave Juson
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4:23pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now saintkenny
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4:26pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Poole Tom says...

up saints wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
i sure why gaston should start guessing the 12mil price tag swap him for lambo
Either way that`s a decent young team which also has a core of five or six English players in it.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]i sure why gaston should start guessing the 12mil price tag swap him for lambo[/p][/quote]Either way that`s a decent young team which also has a core of five or six English players in it. Poole Tom
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4:27pm Mon 15 Jul 13

mickey01 says...

i posted weeks ago that i feared a foreign invasion would effect the british fighting spirit with in the team and i hope i am not prooved right with all these signings and management contacts
i posted weeks ago that i feared a foreign invasion would effect the british fighting spirit with in the team and i hope i am not prooved right with all these signings and management contacts mickey01
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4:37pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think. business-guru
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4:50pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

I am confused as to why we are looking at Benega because he is an attacking midfielder known for creating goals and not scoring and doesn't play wide... Does that mean GR may be sold?
I am confused as to why we are looking at Benega because he is an attacking midfielder known for creating goals and not scoring and doesn't play wide... Does that mean GR may be sold? Sally Hamilton Original
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4:58pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
could be a different issue after a pre season what mp and his staff does will be a lot different to nigels group .one things for sure mp is now its time and he now has the pressure like nigel been backed with funds he needs a good start after the first season .but he picked lambert every game and jrod so if we dont buy another striker .but there will be 7 0r 8 pre season matches which will help him decide but we do get 7 subs .and i think we could not always make the best of that last season different ball game now
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]could be a different issue after a pre season what mp and his staff does will be a lot different to nigels group .one things for sure mp is now its time and he now has the pressure like nigel been backed with funds he needs a good start after the first season .but he picked lambert every game and jrod so if we dont buy another striker .but there will be 7 0r 8 pre season matches which will help him decide but we do get 7 subs .and i think we could not always make the best of that last season different ball game now saintkenny
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5:00pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed.

In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.
Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people.

My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out.
I'm against riots. You work up a fabulous thirst, then you find that all the pubs have been boarded up!
I suppose we could organise a demonstration demanding that pubs stay open during riots, but I'd spend the entire duration of the protest worried that it might turn into a riot and end up with all the pubs being boarded up.
Whilst on the subject of riots I note that John Lewis stores have announced that for anybody who was involved in the street riots of 2011 the two year warranty period on electrical goods is about to run out.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.[/p][/quote]I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed. In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.[/p][/quote]Yuk. I wouldn't go in a public swimming pool. You just can't trust people. My Uncle Hsu, who ran the Tianjin Municipal Pool, told me he always puts 173,000 gallons of water in it upon opening in May. But when it closes in September, he always takes at least 177,000 gallons out.[/p][/quote]I'm against riots. You work up a fabulous thirst, then you find that all the pubs have been boarded up! I suppose we could organise a demonstration demanding that pubs stay open during riots, but I'd spend the entire duration of the protest worried that it might turn into a riot and end up with all the pubs being boarded up.[/p][/quote]Whilst on the subject of riots I note that John Lewis stores have announced that for anybody who was involved in the street riots of 2011 the two year warranty period on electrical goods is about to run out. Alicesdad
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5:11pm Mon 15 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..
If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules.

I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have.

As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support.

I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands.

I hate wasps even though they have stripes.
What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping?

I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.
I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters.

If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.
I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed.

In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.
You shouldn't take things for granted mate, we have a devil of a time finding tweed swimming trunks here. Dead man's speedos ... we've all been there bud!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Is it time for a riot yet? Maybe too early in the week. It's also a bit hot for a riot ..I more of an autumn rioter myself, but I appeciate summer riots provided there is a beer tent. maybe when the temperature drops a bit ..[/p][/quote]If you could suggest some times/dates when you are available for a riot we could then try and fit in with our own schedules. I think a spontaneous riot would of course be preferable, but it's not really practical given the numerous commitments folk have. As it wont be a spontaneous riot, you will also need to suggest beforehand what it is the riot is about. Some people might turn out for a striped shirt riot whereas they wouldn't over a Guly situation riot or over another change in the club's programme sellers. If you have any particular dates you prefer yourself then a riot over something to do with skates might be a cause you could rely upon for general support. I will certainly turn out myself if the club forbids fans to swat wasps in a wild and angry manner in the stands. I hate wasps even though they have stripes.[/p][/quote]What kind of riot is it? Is it the workers rising up to smash the military-industrial complex and to take back the means of production or is it just glorified trainer shopping? I'm up for either, obviously, but if it's trainers can we wait until Adidas have got their autumn-winter range into the shops? Ta.[/p][/quote]I think we could riot to demand the status of butlers is reduced. I'm not a Bolshie at all, but I do think there should be more equality within the servants' quarters. If it's a shopping riot we should choose Lymington because it's got lots of small specialist shops. I never bother to go into those big general stores, because I'm always looking for something specific.[/p][/quote]I'd very much like to see a riot in Stow On The Wold. It deserves one for the paucity of its retail offering. I was there a little while ago trying to buy a pair of swimming trunks but the only shops they have sell either agas or things made of tweed. Or agas made of tweed. In the end I had to go to a charity shop and buy a pair of dead man's speedos in which to hit the pool in Bourton On The Water Leisure Centre. It was a bad day.[/p][/quote]You shouldn't take things for granted mate, we have a devil of a time finding tweed swimming trunks here. Dead man's speedos ... we've all been there bud! STID st1halo
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5:52pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Richard IV says...

Its called competition for places....trying to disrupt things again i think.......Get a life Daily Echo.
Its called competition for places....trying to disrupt things again i think.......Get a life Daily Echo. Richard IV
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6:08pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??
the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf?? Northam Block 40
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6:29pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

Slugger has an IPad , testing testing .
Slugger has an IPad , testing testing . slugger
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6:41pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Confucious wrote:
The Good Doctor wrote:
I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form?

I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side.

Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing!
Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options.

By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'.

The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it.

You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard.

Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads.

They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday.

PS Don't mention striped shirts.
You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back."
Moreover... where are my pills?
I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.
Stop the clock ! It was all going so well too.
Objection your honour. I wish to place on record that this is not a response to a wum. Simply a statement about one. I realise it's pointless trying to reason with the insane. Can I have another chance .............please.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Good Doctor[/bold] wrote: I have often read but have never written on here but I feel compelled to do so because of this odd, non-sensical article. As a few have noted, given the way we play under Pochettino, with a system relying upon three energetic, good quality midfielders, closing down the opposition, winning the ball back and using it. Isn't it pretty obvious that all three will play? Doesn't it indicate that Steven Davis will spend more time on the bench? And more importantly that the strength of the squad has been improved and allow us to occasionally rest our key players and rotate for changes in form? I think we'll do the same up front and hopefully at right back, as we have no cover for Nat there. If and when that happens, it won't be the end of Rickie or Adam or Gaston, it'll just mean that players will need to be playing very, very well to get into the side. Give up the negativity Echo, this is a good thing![/p][/quote]Good points. Another is that we will be playing a wide variety of teams with very variable strengths, weaknesses and tactics - from Man U to Hull, from Arsenal to Stoke - so we need options. By the way, if you decide to post on here more regularly, you need to be aware that I am the only poster who could be described as 'normal' or 'average'. This is rather extraordinary because you'd expect that the majority of posters would fall within the 'average' category - so it seems odd that I should find myself in the 'unique' position of being 'average'. The reason is that the forum is full of wierdos with extreme opinions always clustered at the two distant poles of an argument. But when you 'average' the weight of their positions, I am the only one who is at the 'average' or 'normal' point - or indeed anywhere near it. You sound unusually sensible and that's welcome as it can become slightly lonely at times being the only sensible person aboard. Another tip - don't confuse them with statistics. I explained recently that over the past five years about 2.1 million people (a massive number) climbed up a ladder in the UK - and yet the annual numbers of people killed by falling off a ladder was amazingly consistent ie 42,47, 45, 45 and 48. This created an argument that ran for weeks and was completely off the football threads. They also keep reading on here that it's someone or other's birthday and then up pops a regular poster to say "Wow, what an amazing coincidence, it's my birthday today too!" They don't seem to realise that statistically, you only need 23 people in a room to make it more likely than not that two of them share the same birthday. PS Don't mention striped shirts.[/p][/quote]You should be aware that Confucious's definitions of "normal" and "average" are based on homophonic coincidence between English and an obscure, dead, western Chinese dialect that was only ever used for discussing recipes for goat. The nearest English equivelents being "too spicy" and "You kicked it through the window, you go and ask for it back." Moreover... where are my pills?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the good doctor will quickly be able to work out who talks sense and who doesn't. Hopefully he is a real doctor and will be able advise 5brain cells and the dopey jock on how to regain a semblance of sanity. That's if they ever were sane.[/p][/quote]Stop the clock ! It was all going so well too.[/p][/quote]Objection your honour. I wish to place on record that this is not a response to a wum. Simply a statement about one. I realise it's pointless trying to reason with the insane. Can I have another chance .............please. Clever Dick
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6:42pm Mon 15 Jul 13

StevieSteve says...

Boruc

Clyne
Yoshida
Lovren
Shaw

Morgan (middle)
Wanyama

Jay Rod (wings)
Lallana

Ramirez (just behind Lambo)
Lambert

This has got to be what our current 1st 11 looks like. F#*cking awesome!!

Imagine a new £20 million striker and a top class winger coming in too...
Boruc Clyne Yoshida Lovren Shaw Morgan (middle) Wanyama Jay Rod (wings) Lallana Ramirez (just behind Lambo) Lambert This has got to be what our current 1st 11 looks like. F#*cking awesome!! Imagine a new £20 million striker and a top class winger coming in too... StevieSteve
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7:16pm Mon 15 Jul 13

jls217 says...

Another non-story to fill a column on a quiet day. The first team squad are exactly that a squad. Form, injuries and the opposition will decide who starts and who is on the bench. He is just another young player with huge potential who may or may not start depending on all of the above.
I remember when Chris Nichol was in charge and an established international player by the name of McLoughlin signed that day and asked where he would be playing on Saturday and the response as quick as a flash came - "In the reserves"
Classic! And it just shows there are no guarantees in the funny old game. This lad may take some time to adjust as we are hoping has been the case with Gaston. All we need now is Ince and Mcmanaman to fill the wide spots and a tried and tested battering ram centre forward. Agree a couple more defenders would not hurt also.
REALLY looking forward to this season.
Another non-story to fill a column on a quiet day. The first team squad are exactly that a squad. Form, injuries and the opposition will decide who starts and who is on the bench. He is just another young player with huge potential who may or may not start depending on all of the above. I remember when Chris Nichol was in charge and an established international player by the name of McLoughlin signed that day and asked where he would be playing on Saturday and the response as quick as a flash came - "In the reserves" Classic! And it just shows there are no guarantees in the funny old game. This lad may take some time to adjust as we are hoping has been the case with Gaston. All we need now is Ince and Mcmanaman to fill the wide spots and a tried and tested battering ram centre forward. Agree a couple more defenders would not hurt also. REALLY looking forward to this season. jls217
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7:31pm Mon 15 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Northam Block 40 wrote:
the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??
Don't worry, he has been cloned, the original 5trops is still a 2wat!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??[/p][/quote]Don't worry, he has been cloned, the original 5trops is still a 2wat! STID st1halo
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7:49pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories. Baddesley Bill
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7:54pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

slugger wrote:
Slugger has an IPad , testing testing .
Be careful of the spell chuck :O)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Slugger has an IPad , testing testing .[/p][/quote]Be careful of the spell chuck :O) Baddesley Bill
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8:13pm Mon 15 Jul 13

redsnapper says...

The original article which had VW as a Nigerian shows how distant the DE scribblers are from the club.

They would be better off writing about Cherries and Skates ...weak reporting reporting on rubbish teams.

I noticed recently that Cherries were 9-1 not to be relegated. Get in there!! They will be.
The original article which had VW as a Nigerian shows how distant the DE scribblers are from the club. They would be better off writing about Cherries and Skates ...weak reporting reporting on rubbish teams. I noticed recently that Cherries were 9-1 not to be relegated. Get in there!! They will be. redsnapper
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8:43pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork... business-guru
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8:48pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
If you are so sure...I'll take a 100/1 bet with you...my tenner to your £1000 awaits your acceptance (bet void if lack of fitness dictates)....I can't say fairer than that! :O)
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]If you are so sure...I'll take a 100/1 bet with you...my tenner to your £1000 awaits your acceptance (bet void if lack of fitness dictates)....I can't say fairer than that! :O) Baddesley Bill
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8:50pm Mon 15 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

st1halo wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??
Don't worry, he has been cloned, the original 5trops is still a 2wat!

STID
Why on earth would you clone that?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??[/p][/quote]Don't worry, he has been cloned, the original 5trops is still a 2wat! STID[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you clone that? DisplacedFan
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8:55pm Mon 15 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Northam Block 40 wrote:
the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??
I am puzzled about why sometimes my coffee tastes better than at other times. I am puzzled by why sometimes we have many shots on goal and don't score and other times have few and score. However, whatever Five Trophies Short of a Full Deck has to say never puzzles me. Does an elephant contemplate the life of an ant?
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: the statement by 5 trophies this morning has still left me puzzled, wtf??[/p][/quote]I am puzzled about why sometimes my coffee tastes better than at other times. I am puzzled by why sometimes we have many shots on goal and don't score and other times have few and score. However, whatever Five Trophies Short of a Full Deck has to say never puzzles me. Does an elephant contemplate the life of an ant? DisplacedFan
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9:02pm Mon 15 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
No, but he could replace AL or we might play 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 or 3-5-1-1.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]No, but he could replace AL or we might play 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 or 3-5-1-1. TPFKARTSNINZ
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9:40pm Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet? Baddesley Bill
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9:50pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
the best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11, in fact more often than not is doesn't.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]the best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11, in fact more often than not is doesn't. business-guru
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10:01pm Mon 15 Jul 13

F Fan says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?
Er - no. Maybe not quite that certain
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?[/p][/quote]Er - no. Maybe not quite that certain F Fan
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10:13pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR !
As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR ! slugger
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10:15pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

business-guru wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
the best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11, in fact more often than not is doesn't.
No sh1t Sherlock ...... horses for courses and all that .
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]the best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11, in fact more often than not is doesn't.[/p][/quote]No sh1t Sherlock ...... horses for courses and all that . slugger
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10:17pm Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years. milton road
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10:19pm Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

slugger wrote:
As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR !
he gets paid a lot more to do it than I do and he also gets to see them train and everything.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR ![/p][/quote]he gets paid a lot more to do it than I do and he also gets to see them train and everything. el caballo santos101
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10:24pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him. Santa Retfordia
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10:26pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR !
he gets paid a lot more to do it than I do and he also gets to see them train and everything.
I know it creates debate and all that , but these people that think they know better than our manager make me cringe .
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: As usual , I think i'll let our manager decide who plays , it is his job after all ..... COYR ![/p][/quote]he gets paid a lot more to do it than I do and he also gets to see them train and everything.[/p][/quote]I know it creates debate and all that , but these people that think they know better than our manager make me cringe . slugger
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10:27pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:29pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O) Baddesley Bill
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10:31pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
...and it didn't cost 12mill either...

...just a corn on the cob.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]...and it didn't cost 12mill either... ...just a corn on the cob. Baddesley Bill
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10:34pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
Agreed. It's going to be a fascinating season on so many levels. For relegation I fancy Hull, Palace and Stoke and at the other end I think City will romp it by at least 15 points but between those two spectrums I wouldn't like to make a guess (although I think we'll be top half at the very least).
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]Agreed. It's going to be a fascinating season on so many levels. For relegation I fancy Hull, Palace and Stoke and at the other end I think City will romp it by at least 15 points but between those two spectrums I wouldn't like to make a guess (although I think we'll be top half at the very least). Santa Retfordia
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10:38pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
Agreed. It's going to be a fascinating season on so many levels. For relegation I fancy Hull, Palace and Stoke and at the other end I think City will romp it by at least 15 points but between those two spectrums I wouldn't like to make a guess (although I think we'll be top half at the very least).
Just done a tenner on top six .... easy money !
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]Agreed. It's going to be a fascinating season on so many levels. For relegation I fancy Hull, Palace and Stoke and at the other end I think City will romp it by at least 15 points but between those two spectrums I wouldn't like to make a guess (although I think we'll be top half at the very least).[/p][/quote]Just done a tenner on top six .... easy money ! slugger
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10:40pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)
I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)[/p][/quote]I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all. Santa Retfordia
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10:41pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
Give us a clue ,did he do the marathon or steeplechase ?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]Give us a clue ,did he do the marathon or steeplechase ? slugger
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10:43pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)
I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all.
Good...our man in Manchester is spreading the word.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)[/p][/quote]I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all.[/p][/quote]Good...our man in Manchester is spreading the word. Baddesley Bill
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10:52pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count.

For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count. For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth. Santa Retfordia
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10:57pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)
I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all.
Good...our man in Manchester is spreading the word.
People in Manchester know about us now and take us seriously, you mark my words. (Not because of me, obv, but because of our blatant ambition. It's kind of amazing to see.)
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret....you're up late...did you sh1t the bed? ;O)[/p][/quote]I'm always up late! I'm just not in the pub tonight is all.[/p][/quote]Good...our man in Manchester is spreading the word.[/p][/quote]People in Manchester know about us now and take us seriously, you mark my words. (Not because of me, obv, but because of our blatant ambition. It's kind of amazing to see.) Santa Retfordia
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10:57pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count.

For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.
English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner .
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count. For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.[/p][/quote]English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner . slugger
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11:01pm Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?
still no news on that bet then, strange because I thought that it would have been good business for our resident `guru`. I also thought you might have got a reply by now as he is often on here doing all sorts of business.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?[/p][/quote]still no news on that bet then, strange because I thought that it would have been good business for our resident `guru`. I also thought you might have got a reply by now as he is often on here doing all sorts of business. el caballo santos101
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11:04pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

slugger wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count.

For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.
English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner .
* Oh yeah , Guernsey ... does that count as international ?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count. For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.[/p][/quote]English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner .[/p][/quote]* Oh yeah , Guernsey ... does that count as international ? slugger
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11:06pm Mon 15 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

slugger wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.
Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count.

For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.
English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner .
a yank an aussie and a greek, and im pretty sure 1 girl said she was half French but it was hard to tell as she had her mouth full!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I knobbed a Kenyan once. Well three times. It wasn't Victor though.[/p][/quote]Following on from that thread about nationalities that have played for Saints, we should do a list of nationalities of people Saints fans have knobbed. I can do Norwegian, Swedish, Bulgarian (she was the best but by Christ she was mental), Japanese, Nigerian, French, Welsh and Scottish. And English, obv, but that doesn't count. For bonus points I've never done anyone from Portsmouth.[/p][/quote]English and from Southampton ..... never done a foreigner .[/p][/quote]a yank an aussie and a greek, and im pretty sure 1 girl said she was half French but it was hard to tell as she had her mouth full! el caballo santos101
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11:07pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
some of us don't just have long memories!

as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.
Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?
still no news on that bet then, strange because I thought that it would have been good business for our resident `guru`. I also thought you might have got a reply by now as he is often on here doing all sorts of business.
All quiet....I guess he weighed up the odds and decided not to respond.

...probably made sound business sense.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]some of us don't just have long memories! as for guru`s statement about MP playing it safe, why what has he done in the past to say he ever `plays it safe`? time will tell of course but MP really wanted VW and we wouldnt have gone through with our current record signing, VW is our new record signing isn't he?, if he wasn't going to start him from the outset, in fact most managers will hope to get off to the best start to a season possible and will pick their best 11 just for that reason.[/p][/quote]Mine is short (the memory that is)...did Guru take me up on my bet?[/p][/quote]still no news on that bet then, strange because I thought that it would have been good business for our resident `guru`. I also thought you might have got a reply by now as he is often on here doing all sorts of business.[/p][/quote]All quiet....I guess he weighed up the odds and decided not to respond. ...probably made sound business sense. Baddesley Bill
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11:10pm Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

ST Ret
Do you think part of that is because we seem to be able to hold onto our best players now?

As well as the way we play football.
ST Ret Do you think part of that is because we seem to be able to hold onto our best players now? As well as the way we play football. milton road
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11:13pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

Any Skate reading this will wonder how Saints fans have managed to have sisters in every corner of the globe .
Any Skate reading this will wonder how Saints fans have managed to have sisters in every corner of the globe . slugger
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11:14pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion. business-guru
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11:16pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

slugger wrote:
Any Skate reading this will wonder how Saints fans have managed to have sisters in every corner of the globe .
* I do know that a globe has no corners .....before someone gets on my case .
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Any Skate reading this will wonder how Saints fans have managed to have sisters in every corner of the globe .[/p][/quote]* I do know that a globe has no corners .....before someone gets on my case . slugger
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11:23pm Mon 15 Jul 13

business-guru says...

milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind. business-guru
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11:24pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
If it's so obvious to you...put your money where your mouth is...it's really that easy.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]If it's so obvious to you...put your money where your mouth is...it's really that easy. Baddesley Bill
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11:25pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly.

Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly. Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he? Santa Retfordia
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11:26pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
Shame that we were "stupid" to sign Wanyama ......... stand by your comments man !
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Shame that we were "stupid" to sign Wanyama ......... stand by your comments man ! slugger
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11:28pm Mon 15 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
Sorry, but you state "give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the prem " then state that he won't start until the 3rd or 4th game. So how does he get used to the pace of the prem then if he's not played in it.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you state "give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the prem " then state that he won't start until the 3rd or 4th game. So how does he get used to the pace of the prem then if he's not played in it. angus mc coatup
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11:30pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly.

Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he?
he will join up this week maya has only just arrived but of course there ahead has they have trained with there countries .no doubt he will figure this season as the club turned down a 14 million bid for him
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly. Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he?[/p][/quote]he will join up this week maya has only just arrived but of course there ahead has they have trained with there countries .no doubt he will figure this season as the club turned down a 14 million bid for him saintkenny
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11:32pm Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

I think Vic will be up to speed by the time the season begins. Work rate seems to be a strong part of his game.
If you worked that philosophy then our new CB would not play either guru.

Whereas some teams in the prem are looking to build squads it seems. We are making key signings to to take us a stage further. We already have the basis of a good squad.

Forren was only ever bought as a back up as we were desperate for cover cos Fonte was injured at the time. I said that all along. The guys we are buying now are not fill ins they are important components.
I think Vic will be up to speed by the time the season begins. Work rate seems to be a strong part of his game. If you worked that philosophy then our new CB would not play either guru. Whereas some teams in the prem are looking to build squads it seems. We are making key signings to to take us a stage further. We already have the basis of a good squad. Forren was only ever bought as a back up as we were desperate for cover cos Fonte was injured at the time. I said that all along. The guys we are buying now are not fill ins they are important components. milton road
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11:37pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

milton road wrote:
ST Ret
Do you think part of that is because we seem to be able to hold onto our best players now?

As well as the way we play football.
Good question. I think it's partly because we outplayed both their main teams for large sections of our fixtures against them last season and partly because quite a lot of United fans assumed they'd sign Luke Shaw without much of a fuss. None of them have heard of Nicola Cortese but when I tell them we've got a thoroughly ambitious chairman who is aiming high they go a bit patronising and are then all "Christ, that's the last thing we need."
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: ST Ret Do you think part of that is because we seem to be able to hold onto our best players now? As well as the way we play football.[/p][/quote]Good question. I think it's partly because we outplayed both their main teams for large sections of our fixtures against them last season and partly because quite a lot of United fans assumed they'd sign Luke Shaw without much of a fuss. None of them have heard of Nicola Cortese but when I tell them we've got a thoroughly ambitious chairman who is aiming high they go a bit patronising and are then all "Christ, that's the last thing we need." Santa Retfordia
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11:40pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
saying that most of last season gaston had a well reported ongoing dead leg problem and that hindered him a lot he struggled to last in games .If this issue is resolved then he may play more games .Its a bit daft to say hes part time when not fully fit .when you pay a lot of money you do not want a player further injured and maybe forced to retire you have to think of things like this .we have had a 14 million bid on the table recently which was turned down .let the guy get match fit then we may see the best of him .His fellow countryman was not a instance success at liverpool but they are desperate to keep hold of him now .in the end he came good apart from the silly bite incident
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]saying that most of last season gaston had a well reported ongoing dead leg problem and that hindered him a lot he struggled to last in games .If this issue is resolved then he may play more games .Its a bit daft to say hes part time when not fully fit .when you pay a lot of money you do not want a player further injured and maybe forced to retire you have to think of things like this .we have had a 14 million bid on the table recently which was turned down .let the guy get match fit then we may see the best of him .His fellow countryman was not a instance success at liverpool but they are desperate to keep hold of him now .in the end he came good apart from the silly bite incident saintkenny
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11:43pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

saintkenny wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
SFC1984 wrote:
Boruc

Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw


Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin

Gaston. Lallana


Rodriguez

That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side
Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...
mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now
there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.
You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru...

..the lads on here have long memories.
There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...
I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.
we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.
Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly.

Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he?
he will join up this week maya has only just arrived but of course there ahead has they have trained with there countries .no doubt he will figure this season as the club turned down a 14 million bid for him
Cool - thanks for the info. He's still so young and with bags of potential. He needs a preseason and some bonding with the rest of the team. His biggest problem isn't his talent but his seeming lack of communication with everyone else. They all need to go out and get him p1ssed and have a giggle.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC1984[/bold] wrote: Boruc Clyne. Yoshida. Lovren. Shaw Cork. Wanyama. Schneiderlin Gaston. Lallana Rodriguez That is how i believe we start mainly next season with current side[/p][/quote]Wanyama and Gaston will not both start the first game of the season...and I doubt either will...[/p][/quote]mp will pick the team leave it to him no point in debating a decision that is not yours to make ,he could choose a new formation as lambert played in every team mp picked and if adam is still captain these 2 will start .may depend on pre season games we have not played yet .so its a trifle bit early also more players will arrive 2 deals on the fringe now[/p][/quote]there is every point debating it when someone points out that a player fresh from the pub league and a half-soldier will start ahead of proven Premier League players..... There is absolutely no way on Earth that both those players will start the first game... Even if fighting fit and bursting to give 100%... It ain't gonna happen. VW will have to earn his spurs and Gaston will carry on playing part time as he has done since he arrived. Its a squad game so this is not a "negative" comment, its just obvious one would think.[/p][/quote]You might just have set yerself up for a big fall there Mr Guru... ..the lads on here have long memories.[/p][/quote]There is no way MP is going to risk it.... maybe in games later in the campaign, but he will play it safe. Assuming all fit then the back four and the keeper picks itself, then JayRod the out-and-out striker, Ricky doing his thang... and AL, corky, spider and one-other in the midfield.... like I say assuming fit.... but there is no way our pub league friend will automatically replace Cork...[/p][/quote]I appreciate your need to be controversial but MoPo has just paid a club record fee for Wanyama and has a full pre-season to work on him. Of course he's going to start with him.[/p][/quote]we paid a club record for Gaston and he is a part timer. The best 11 players does not necessarily make the best team of 11. Its not controversial to state the obvious. Don't forget many on here thought Forren was going to start in the first game....LOL..... now THAT was controversial. No for me its obvious. Give the guy a chance to get used to the pace of the Prem and do not start him with a player that operates in the same space. MP knows best and VW won't start until 3rd or 4th game at the earliest in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Yes but MoPo didn't sign Gaston, did he? He clearly rates VW highly. Talking of Gaston, has anyone seen pictures of him in the pre-season training camp that the club is pumping out ten to the dozen? I know he's been in the Confederations Cup and is owed extra time off, but where is he?[/p][/quote]he will join up this week maya has only just arrived but of course there ahead has they have trained with there countries .no doubt he will figure this season as the club turned down a 14 million bid for him[/p][/quote]Cool - thanks for the info. He's still so young and with bags of potential. He needs a preseason and some bonding with the rest of the team. His biggest problem isn't his talent but his seeming lack of communication with everyone else. They all need to go out and get him p1ssed and have a giggle. Santa Retfordia
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11:48pm Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys.
We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude.
The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo.
I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through.
Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me.
I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys. We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude. The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo. I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through. Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me. milton road
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11:50pm Mon 15 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.[/p][/quote]but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember saintkenny
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11:54pm Mon 15 Jul 13

slugger says...

saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember
Bang on ... take that !
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.[/p][/quote]but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember[/p][/quote]Bang on ... take that ! slugger
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11:58pm Mon 15 Jul 13

milton road says...

I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both.
There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful.
I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both. There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful. milton road
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11:59pm Mon 15 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

milton road wrote:
I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys.
We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude.
The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo.
I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through.
Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me.
I think large sections of the media will get behind us because of the way we play. We're such an attractive and bold team that we'll probably become like Newcastle a few years back and be everyone's second team. We just have to remember not to bugger it all up like they did.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys. We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude. The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo. I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through. Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me.[/p][/quote]I think large sections of the media will get behind us because of the way we play. We're such an attractive and bold team that we'll probably become like Newcastle a few years back and be everyone's second team. We just have to remember not to bugger it all up like they did. Santa Retfordia
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12:11am Tue 16 Jul 13

milton road says...

ST Red
I also think its what fans see on tv as well. Which of course is media but they see first hand how we play, and knowledgeable fans know what the club has been through and its that good feel sort of against all the odds story. There is a lot of good will for Saints out there.
ST Red I also think its what fans see on tv as well. Which of course is media but they see first hand how we play, and knowledgeable fans know what the club has been through and its that good feel sort of against all the odds story. There is a lot of good will for Saints out there. milton road
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12:21am Tue 16 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
milton road wrote:
I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys.
We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude.
The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo.
I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through.
Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me.
I think large sections of the media will get behind us because of the way we play. We're such an attractive and bold team that we'll probably become like Newcastle a few years back and be everyone's second team. We just have to remember not to bugger it all up like they did.
at least Newcastle still play in ......
no couldn't do it.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I go on a couple of national threads and whilst you still get some fans say Saints will be relegated, most quite like us and been a lot of positive comments about us and our buys. We are not like a normal prem club, the likes of Luke, Morgan and Al came through the hell of admin, even though Luke was just in the kid's team then. I believe that bonded us together as a club. Since then we have been on an amazing journey in a short time. NA cemented that with his we are all in this together attitude. The only player who never had a sense of loyalty was Oxo. I think with several players playing for us is not just about money, its what the club went through. Maybe i am a sentimentalist, but it seems that way to me.[/p][/quote]I think large sections of the media will get behind us because of the way we play. We're such an attractive and bold team that we'll probably become like Newcastle a few years back and be everyone's second team. We just have to remember not to bugger it all up like they did.[/p][/quote]at least Newcastle still play in ...... no couldn't do it. el caballo santos101
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2:53am Tue 16 Jul 13

SiamSaint says...

EricMartin'sHat wrote:
skin2000 wrote:
EricMartin'sHat wrote:
Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger?

In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question.

Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not!
I think his neighbour is coming in to water them.
Yeah - but what if his neighbour just 'sits on the bench'? All the roses will die!
Punch will look after the fer'iloizer!!
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote: Does tv advert leave Cork feeling in need of a burger? In today's DE we write 2000 words of nonsense trying not to answer this question. Don't miss tomorrow's edition where we waffle on about whether this weekend's heatwave has left Rickie pondering whether he forgot to water his plants or not![/p][/quote]I think his neighbour is coming in to water them.[/p][/quote]Yeah - but what if his neighbour just 'sits on the bench'? All the roses will die![/p][/quote]Punch will look after the fer'iloizer!! SiamSaint
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9:04am Tue 16 Jul 13

business-guru says...

slugger wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember
Bang on ... take that !
I said Sunderland would "do a QPR". nothing whatsoever to do with a mid season "slump"...
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.[/p][/quote]but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember[/p][/quote]Bang on ... take that ![/p][/quote]I said Sunderland would "do a QPR". nothing whatsoever to do with a mid season "slump"... business-guru
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9:07am Tue 16 Jul 13

business-guru says...

milton road wrote:
I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both.
There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful.
its why only a muppet would think Gaston and VW will play in the same team in game1..... plenty of muppets on here I see !! ;0)
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both. There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful.[/p][/quote]its why only a muppet would think Gaston and VW will play in the same team in game1..... plenty of muppets on here I see !! ;0) business-guru
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11:15am Tue 16 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both.
There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful.
its why only a muppet would think Gaston and VW will play in the same team in game1..... plenty of muppets on here I see !! ;0)
You are assuming that all 'muppets' are not as intelligent as your good self, but of course those on here express an opinion, right or wrong, they are entitled to make it, and should not be automatically gainsaid by someone who only quotes facts rather than opinions.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I don't think its communication with Gaston he was awful in the confederation cup. Started two games and was substituted in both. There is undoubted talent, I think its attitude, he drifts in and out of games too much. Until that can get focused I don't think he will ever be more than a bit part player. He didn't want to go to Juventus as well, he wanted to stay here. Hopefully Ponch can get his mind set right. if he was consistent he would be a real handful.[/p][/quote]its why only a muppet would think Gaston and VW will play in the same team in game1..... plenty of muppets on here I see !! ;0)[/p][/quote]You are assuming that all 'muppets' are not as intelligent as your good self, but of course those on here express an opinion, right or wrong, they are entitled to make it, and should not be automatically gainsaid by someone who only quotes facts rather than opinions. OSPREYSAINT
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2:03pm Tue 16 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
business-guru wrote:
milton road wrote:
Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10.

We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield.

Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing.

I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.
I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.
but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember
Bang on ... take that !
I said Sunderland would "do a QPR". nothing whatsoever to do with a mid season "slump"...
not on this but another thread you said about qpr .re read what i wrote
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Ponch very rarely started Gaston and Al in the same line up last season. I think Wanyama will start first game. I see where you are coming from, but unless we buy a quality finisher, I can't see us dropping RL unless his form is poor. We need two regular finishers to get in the top 10. We have Corkie, Morgan, Vic Gaston, Al, Jason, Steve and Ward Prowse. I do not see us getting another midfielder. We have a strong squad for midfield, enough to rotate it regularly if needs be. It also allows Corkie to cover right back if needed without weakening midfield. Swansea and Norwich have already bought in six players each and Sunderland around eight. As everyone around us strengthens in depth. We by and large will rely on the same squad with probably three additions. I see the other being a striker.That is our weak point now, sort that and our squad has good depth. If the new additions live up to expectation each will have been a key signing. I think the EPL will prove tougher for everyone this season, most teams lower than sixth have splashed the cash. It could be the closest division top and bottom for years.[/p][/quote]I think some "big" clubs will struggle this coming season to meet their expectations. I also think some teams are just throwing players together without much thought. Sunderland springs to mind.[/p][/quote]but thats paulo he said the squad has a bad attitude and he will have a clear out many out of contract anyway lets not forget he was appointed 6 weeks from the end of the season so he had no time to do what he wants .in another thread you claimed last season qpr had a mid season slump .if you had looked at the table you would of noticed they had 4 points from 30 points after 10 games .So if you give a opinion it might pay to do some research and you wont make yourself look silly for when you comment on other matters .regulars notice what people quote and remember[/p][/quote]Bang on ... take that ![/p][/quote]I said Sunderland would "do a QPR". nothing whatsoever to do with a mid season "slump"...[/p][/quote]not on this but another thread you said about qpr .re read what i wrote saintkenny
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