Late rally lifts Saints past Besiktas

Daily Echo: Rickie Lambert in action against Besiktas. Rickie Lambert in action against Besiktas.

Goals from Rickie Lambert, Emmanuel Mayuka and Lloyd Isgrove saw Saints record a 3-1 win over Beşiktaş, as their pre-season campaign continued.

Saints took on the Turkish side in the final friendly match of their trip to Austria and, despite falling behind to a wonder strike in the second half, they produced a superb late rally to turn the game around.

Mauricio Pochettino made nine changes to the side that started against Schalke on Wednesday, with Calum Chambers and Jay Rodriguez the only ones to retain their positions.

There was no place in the squad for either Maya Yoshida or Gastón Ramírez, who are both yet to see any pre-season action after being given some time off after the Confederations Cup.

Nathaniel Clyne was missing with a knock, hence Chambers continuing at right-back, while Guly do Prado returned from a slight injury to take up a place in the line-up.

The quaint surroundings of the Stadion Villach Lind were dominated by a loud band of Beşiktaş supporters, who made themselves well heard throughout the evening.

They nearly had reason to make even more noise in the tenth minute, when Manuel Fernandes’ free-kick was met by the head of Hugo Almeida, only for Artur Boruc to make an excellent save.

The only other effort of note in the first half came from James Ward-Prowse, whose free-kick on the edge of the area was tipped wide by Beşiktaş keeper Cenk Gönen.

Saints made three changes at the break, with Victor Wanyama, Lambert and Luke Shaw being introduced in place of Chambers, Guly and Danny Fox. Jack Cork switched to right-back, indicating that Pochettino views him as another potential back-up for Clyne.

It was Beşiktaş who started better, though, with one of their own substitutes, Dentinho, striking the crossbar with a side-footed effort from Gökhan Töre’s cutback.

Boruc appeared to get a hand to the ball, but a goal-kick was awarded.

The Saints stopper had to be alert again shortly afterwards to divert Almeida’s rasping shot wide.

But there was nothing he could do about the sublime effort from Muhammed Demirci in the 62nd minute.

The midfielder drove forward 30 yards out, shifted the ball onto his left foot and, from a central position, powered a shot past a full-stretch Boruc into the top corner.

Second-half sub Mayuka had the ball in the net ten minutes later, after Lambert’s clever pass slipped him in, but his low finish into the bottom corner was ruled out for offside.

The equaliser did arrive three minutes later, though.

Cork lofted in a free-kick from the right touchline, which Lambert was somehow allowed to chest down in the area. Allowing the Saints forward the opportunity to control the ball in such a fashion represented a dreadful piece of defending from Beşiktaş, and they were made to pay the full price, as Lambert lashed home with his right foot.

Saints completed the turnaround three minutes later, as Mayuka unleashed a dipping left-foot volley from the edge of the area that beat Gönen at his near post.

Isgrove then wrapped up the win on the stroke of 90 minutes, slotting in Shaw’s square pass from six yards with his left foot.

Saints will now head home for a few days, before departing for next weekend’s game against Celta Vigo, in Spain. Pre-season will then finish with the fixture against Real Sociedad on Saturday, August 10.

SAINTS: Boruc, Chambers (Wanyama HT), Fonte, Hooiveld (Lovren 70), Fox (Shaw HT), Cork, Schneiderlin (Davis 58), Ward-Prowse (Isgrove 70), Lallana (Puncheon 58), Do Prado (Lambert HT), Rodriguez (Mayuka 70).

Unused subs: Gazzaniga, Turnbull, Stephens.

BEŞIKTAŞ: Gönen, Kurtulus, Sivok, Franco, Gülüm (Süzen HT), Kavlak, Özyakup (Demirci HT), Fernandes, Töre (Toraman 73), Şahan (Dentinho HT), Almeida (Pektemek 63).

Unused subs: Güvenç, Akgün, Escudé, Uysal, Kayhan.

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7:26pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's!
Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's! Tye-Dye pt2
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7:28pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Chris1991 says...

We need to sign a striker....
We need to sign a striker.... Chris1991
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7:33pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Saintsno1fan says...

Great workout for the lads and great win. Up the saints
Great workout for the lads and great win. Up the saints Saintsno1fan
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7:41pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Costa Baz says...

Rode our luck at the start of the 2nd half, but good to see us hang in there and turn it into a win.
If we are going to push our full backs as far forward as we did today, I'm not sure that Cork has the pace to fill in for Clyne, though.
Looks as though Shaw has also been given licence to get as far forward as possible, which will be good for the team, especially if he keeps attacking the bye line, as he did for the 3rd goal.
Cut back crosses are so difficult to defend.
Will definitely need one of the midfielders to sit in front of the CB's, as they will have their work cut out covering the fullbacks.
Great finish by Lambert and Mayuka, well taken goal by Isgrove and unlucky Steven Davis.
Rode our luck at the start of the 2nd half, but good to see us hang in there and turn it into a win. If we are going to push our full backs as far forward as we did today, I'm not sure that Cork has the pace to fill in for Clyne, though. Looks as though Shaw has also been given licence to get as far forward as possible, which will be good for the team, especially if he keeps attacking the bye line, as he did for the 3rd goal. Cut back crosses are so difficult to defend. Will definitely need one of the midfielders to sit in front of the CB's, as they will have their work cut out covering the fullbacks. Great finish by Lambert and Mayuka, well taken goal by Isgrove and unlucky Steven Davis. Costa Baz
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7:41pm Sat 27 Jul 13

slugger says...

Was really impressed with our pressing game and most of the passing , no real threat in the 1st half but took them apart in the 2nd ....... 4 very good goals and an excellent work out .... COYR !
Was really impressed with our pressing game and most of the passing , no real threat in the 1st half but took them apart in the 2nd ....... 4 very good goals and an excellent work out .... COYR ! slugger
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7:43pm Sat 27 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's!
A lot of streams cut off before it, your internet is not to blame! :)

I'm really happy for all 3 scorers for different reasons:
Rickie seemed like he was having a bit of a drought,
Mayuka needed to open his SFC goal account and has seemed to be working really hard this couple of weeks,
Isgrove needed to stake his claim to this much discussed wide role.

ONLY A FRIENDLY, I know, but I'm sure it will have done wonders to the confidence of all 3 of them.
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's![/p][/quote]A lot of streams cut off before it, your internet is not to blame! :) I'm really happy for all 3 scorers for different reasons: Rickie seemed like he was having a bit of a drought, Mayuka needed to open his SFC goal account and has seemed to be working really hard this couple of weeks, Isgrove needed to stake his claim to this much discussed wide role. ONLY A FRIENDLY, I know, but I'm sure it will have done wonders to the confidence of all 3 of them. gr8saint
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7:46pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Missed the first 25 minutes struggling to get a link, then watched the rest of the first half while getting dinner ready, so only really saw the second half ....... and my link died at 2-1. Furthermore, it was a dodgy link at best and I could hardly make out who was who.

From what I could make out, there was some nice interplay, there were some good finishes and it's good to see that the officials in Austria (were they in fact Austrian?) are every bit as good as those in the Prem. Our players need to learn how to 'win' fouls that easily and gain 20 yards before taking free kicks.

Anyway, the result doesn't matter, but it's nice to come back from behind and win.

I'll let those who had better links fill in the details. Time for dinner; I hope she likes my first EVER attempt at Mexican.
Missed the first 25 minutes struggling to get a link, then watched the rest of the first half while getting dinner ready, so only really saw the second half ....... and my link died at 2-1. Furthermore, it was a dodgy link at best and I could hardly make out who was who. From what I could make out, there was some nice interplay, there were some good finishes and it's good to see that the officials in Austria (were they in fact Austrian?) are every bit as good as those in the Prem. Our players need to learn how to 'win' fouls that easily and gain 20 yards before taking free kicks. Anyway, the result doesn't matter, but it's nice to come back from behind and win. I'll let those who had better links fill in the details. Time for dinner; I hope she likes my first EVER attempt at Mexican. Strasbourg Saint
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7:49pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:52pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Matthew Radlett says...

Great win for the boys and supporters who made it over!

Well done Lloyd too, I think he's going to be our next superstar.
Great win for the boys and supporters who made it over! Well done Lloyd too, I think he's going to be our next superstar. Matthew Radlett
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7:54pm Sat 27 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

Ich was gut..

goals from every where...let me tell you tht a single goalscorer is a blessing and a curse..RL is not on fire then what.. all our players must be able to finish...

..Cb's for set pieces (our nemesis) and midfielders in quantity then and only then will we be a serious threat in the league..

Adam and others must show their ability in goals..this will make RL's ability on the ball even more significant and extend his career by 2 more seasons..get to it..

live from Turkey or Austria..depending.
Ich was gut.. goals from every where...let me tell you tht a single goalscorer is a blessing and a curse..RL is not on fire then what.. all our players must be able to finish... ..Cb's for set pieces (our nemesis) and midfielders in quantity then and only then will we be a serious threat in the league.. Adam and others must show their ability in goals..this will make RL's ability on the ball even more significant and extend his career by 2 more seasons..get to it.. live from Turkey or Austria..depending. warrens 76
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7:56pm Sat 27 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Missed the first 25 minutes struggling to get a link, then watched the rest of the first half while getting dinner ready, so only really saw the second half ....... and my link died at 2-1. Furthermore, it was a dodgy link at best and I could hardly make out who was who.

From what I could make out, there was some nice interplay, there were some good finishes and it's good to see that the officials in Austria (were they in fact Austrian?) are every bit as good as those in the Prem. Our players need to learn how to 'win' fouls that easily and gain 20 yards before taking free kicks.

Anyway, the result doesn't matter, but it's nice to come back from behind and win.

I'll let those who had better links fill in the details. Time for dinner; I hope she likes my first EVER attempt at Mexican.
Funnily i was forced to give my wife a Brazilian..tasty.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Missed the first 25 minutes struggling to get a link, then watched the rest of the first half while getting dinner ready, so only really saw the second half ....... and my link died at 2-1. Furthermore, it was a dodgy link at best and I could hardly make out who was who. From what I could make out, there was some nice interplay, there were some good finishes and it's good to see that the officials in Austria (were they in fact Austrian?) are every bit as good as those in the Prem. Our players need to learn how to 'win' fouls that easily and gain 20 yards before taking free kicks. Anyway, the result doesn't matter, but it's nice to come back from behind and win. I'll let those who had better links fill in the details. Time for dinner; I hope she likes my first EVER attempt at Mexican.[/p][/quote]Funnily i was forced to give my wife a Brazilian..tasty. warrens 76
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8:00pm Sat 27 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.
We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see. DisplacedFan
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8:02pm Sat 27 Jul 13

saintand266 says...

Good result , now a couple of good results in the next two will set us up perfectly for the season opener.
Terrible stream though, missed huge chunks of the game, i blame Guly
Good result , now a couple of good results in the next two will set us up perfectly for the season opener. Terrible stream though, missed huge chunks of the game, i blame Guly saintand266
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8:05pm Sat 27 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ! slugger
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8:12pm Sat 27 Jul 13

FindAndDestroy says...

We already know what Jay and lambo can do, lets try giving mayuka a full game and see what he does!!!!!!! lack of enough time on the pitch may just affect one's performance....
We already know what Jay and lambo can do, lets try giving mayuka a full game and see what he does!!!!!!! lack of enough time on the pitch may just affect one's performance.... FindAndDestroy
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8:30pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
I had a tip to use bet365...sign up, deposit £5...and the stream is superb with no stupid pop ups.

My £5 proved to be well invested too...happy days! :O)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]I had a tip to use bet365...sign up, deposit £5...and the stream is superb with no stupid pop ups. My £5 proved to be well invested too...happy days! :O) Baddesley Bill
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8:30pm Sat 27 Jul 13

tomofthesaints says...

gr8saint wrote:
Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's!
A lot of streams cut off before it, your internet is not to blame! :)

I'm really happy for all 3 scorers for different reasons:
Rickie seemed like he was having a bit of a drought,
Mayuka needed to open his SFC goal account and has seemed to be working really hard this couple of weeks,
Isgrove needed to stake his claim to this much discussed wide role.

ONLY A FRIENDLY, I know, but I'm sure it will have done wonders to the confidence of all 3 of them.
My stream wasn't exactly tip top either and to top it all off, the one I was watching had a cameraman who seemed more interested in what was happening just behind where the ball was. On a plus note isgrove looked good in both this game and the Schalke one and Wanyama also looks good.
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: Cracking performance in the 2nd half, Lambo's was good but Mayuka's scored a peach! Alas modern technology meant Lloyd's was missed...bl00dy talktalk!! Played Saints, looking good! COYR's![/p][/quote]A lot of streams cut off before it, your internet is not to blame! :) I'm really happy for all 3 scorers for different reasons: Rickie seemed like he was having a bit of a drought, Mayuka needed to open his SFC goal account and has seemed to be working really hard this couple of weeks, Isgrove needed to stake his claim to this much discussed wide role. ONLY A FRIENDLY, I know, but I'm sure it will have done wonders to the confidence of all 3 of them.[/p][/quote]My stream wasn't exactly tip top either and to top it all off, the one I was watching had a cameraman who seemed more interested in what was happening just behind where the ball was. On a plus note isgrove looked good in both this game and the Schalke one and Wanyama also looks good. tomofthesaints
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8:57pm Sat 27 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time. el caballo santos101
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9:03pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:06pm Sat 27 Jul 13

jls217 says...

Better to win than to lose but this is only a friendly.
Isgrove seems to have grabbed his chance to shine. For those who have ever seen him (I haven't) Is he as good as the reports seem to make him?
Is Mayuka ready to lead up front?
Does our new CB live up to his transfer fee?
Hope to be at the first home game but would like to think those listed above will come good and make Dr Spoch think he doesn't have to go on a spending spree. Exciting times ahead.
Better to win than to lose but this is only a friendly. Isgrove seems to have grabbed his chance to shine. For those who have ever seen him (I haven't) Is he as good as the reports seem to make him? Is Mayuka ready to lead up front? Does our new CB live up to his transfer fee? Hope to be at the first home game but would like to think those listed above will come good and make Dr Spoch think he doesn't have to go on a spending spree. Exciting times ahead. jls217
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9:18pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

The big plus here has to be 3 different scorers The more goal threats = the more men to mark = more free runners
The big plus here has to be 3 different scorers The more goal threats = the more men to mark = more free runners Saintsayer II
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9:24pm Sat 27 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward.
I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?[/p][/quote]absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward. I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids. el caballo santos101
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9:24pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:33pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward.
I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.
I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in.

If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?[/p][/quote]absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward. I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.[/p][/quote]I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in. If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:49pm Sat 27 Jul 13

rpjcheney says...

I felt sorry for Besiktas. I'm not sure they could see each other, wearing that grey kit and all.

I can't wait for the season to start properly.

PS. I also used the Bet365 stream - any way of making that full screen?
I felt sorry for Besiktas. I'm not sure they could see each other, wearing that grey kit and all. I can't wait for the season to start properly. PS. I also used the Bet365 stream - any way of making that full screen? rpjcheney
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9:54pm Sat 27 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward.
I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.
I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in.

If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.
it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him.

I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?[/p][/quote]absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward. I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.[/p][/quote]I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in. If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.[/p][/quote]it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him. I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod? el caballo santos101
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10:04pm Sat 27 Jul 13

MGRA says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward.
I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.
I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in.

If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.
it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him.

I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod?
Sharp could do a job but Lee I doubt could make an impact. Sharp plays at his best off naturally wide attacking players so he may not fit in with our plans for those reasons....
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?[/p][/quote]absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward. I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.[/p][/quote]I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in. If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.[/p][/quote]it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him. I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod?[/p][/quote]Sharp could do a job but Lee I doubt could make an impact. Sharp plays at his best off naturally wide attacking players so he may not fit in with our plans for those reasons.... MGRA
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10:34pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2378319/So
uthampton-chairman-N
icola-Cortese-People
-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian
ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse. Dave Juson
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10:41pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2378319/So

uthampton-chairman-N

icola-Cortese-People

-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian

ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:58pm Sat 27 Jul 13

turicky says...

I don't post very often, but I thought some may be interested in my opinion of this evenings match. I'm in Turkey and watched the whole match plus repeated highlights in full HD on a 55inch TV (just like being there). For what it's worth JWP was my MOTM. Also Cork had a very good game. Guly was very good, covered a lot of ground and drew a lot of fouls. Mayuka looks very promising. His disallowed goal was not offside. Lambert took a while to settle, but then proved what a great player he is. Holding the ball, great distribution and lethal finishing. Sorry, but VW may be solid, but I thought he looked lazy and overweight, just didn't get involved, considering he only played half a game. Hopefully he'll trim down like Lambert and prove me wrong. Davis worked really hard when he came on. (shame about the miss) Fox played ok. Shaw had the benefit of playing against tired opposition but did good. Not sure about Puncheon, not consistent. Jos beaten in the air almost every time. The rest were just ok, not good, but also not bad. Besiktas are a good side, so a good result, which should have been 5-2.
I don't post very often, but I thought some may be interested in my opinion of this evenings match. I'm in Turkey and watched the whole match plus repeated highlights in full HD on a 55inch TV (just like being there). For what it's worth JWP was my MOTM. Also Cork had a very good game. Guly was very good, covered a lot of ground and drew a lot of fouls. Mayuka looks very promising. His disallowed goal was not offside. Lambert took a while to settle, but then proved what a great player he is. Holding the ball, great distribution and lethal finishing. Sorry, but VW may be solid, but I thought he looked lazy and overweight, just didn't get involved, considering he only played half a game. Hopefully he'll trim down like Lambert and prove me wrong. Davis worked really hard when he came on. (shame about the miss) Fox played ok. Shaw had the benefit of playing against tired opposition but did good. Not sure about Puncheon, not consistent. Jos beaten in the air almost every time. The rest were just ok, not good, but also not bad. Besiktas are a good side, so a good result, which should have been 5-2. turicky
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11:11pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2378319/So


uthampton-chairman-N


icola-Cortese-People


-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian


ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence? Dave Juson
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11:11pm Sat 27 Jul 13

george chivers says...

turicky wrote:
I don't post very often, but I thought some may be interested in my opinion of this evenings match. I'm in Turkey and watched the whole match plus repeated highlights in full HD on a 55inch TV (just like being there). For what it's worth JWP was my MOTM. Also Cork had a very good game. Guly was very good, covered a lot of ground and drew a lot of fouls. Mayuka looks very promising. His disallowed goal was not offside. Lambert took a while to settle, but then proved what a great player he is. Holding the ball, great distribution and lethal finishing. Sorry, but VW may be solid, but I thought he looked lazy and overweight, just didn't get involved, considering he only played half a game. Hopefully he'll trim down like Lambert and prove me wrong. Davis worked really hard when he came on. (shame about the miss) Fox played ok. Shaw had the benefit of playing against tired opposition but did good. Not sure about Puncheon, not consistent. Jos beaten in the air almost every time. The rest were just ok, not good, but also not bad. Besiktas are a good side, so a good result, which should have been 5-2.
Thanks very good report.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: I don't post very often, but I thought some may be interested in my opinion of this evenings match. I'm in Turkey and watched the whole match plus repeated highlights in full HD on a 55inch TV (just like being there). For what it's worth JWP was my MOTM. Also Cork had a very good game. Guly was very good, covered a lot of ground and drew a lot of fouls. Mayuka looks very promising. His disallowed goal was not offside. Lambert took a while to settle, but then proved what a great player he is. Holding the ball, great distribution and lethal finishing. Sorry, but VW may be solid, but I thought he looked lazy and overweight, just didn't get involved, considering he only played half a game. Hopefully he'll trim down like Lambert and prove me wrong. Davis worked really hard when he came on. (shame about the miss) Fox played ok. Shaw had the benefit of playing against tired opposition but did good. Not sure about Puncheon, not consistent. Jos beaten in the air almost every time. The rest were just ok, not good, but also not bad. Besiktas are a good side, so a good result, which should have been 5-2.[/p][/quote]Thanks very good report. george chivers
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11:26pm Sat 27 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.
should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.[/p][/quote]should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!! saintkenny
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6:58am Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2378319/So



uthampton-chairman-N



icola-Cortese-People



-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian



ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change. ghk230473
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7:44am Sun 28 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

hang on a minute....

where are the trolls? why aren't they here telling us all about how Saints are rubbish and are going to get relegated?

wait.... oh yes how silly of me - it's because we won. They never come crawling out from under their rock when we win.
hang on a minute.... where are the trolls? why aren't they here telling us all about how Saints are rubbish and are going to get relegated? wait.... oh yes how silly of me - it's because we won. They never come crawling out from under their rock when we win. Stroppy_gramps
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8:23am Sun 28 Jul 13

Dubai-saints89 says...

impressed from what ive seen so far this pre season. i think all areas are pretty much covered however a proven goal scorer, a striker would be nice. im sure MP is working hard on bringing someone in + we do have cash left over from the summer kitty bag so im sure our main focus now would be a striker, a narrow loss to Schalke and a good win over Besiktas could be used as a platform to bring in a top top international striker. i can honestly see someone coming is after the 2 friendlies (Celta Vigo & Real sociedad)
impressed from what ive seen so far this pre season. i think all areas are pretty much covered however a proven goal scorer, a striker would be nice. im sure MP is working hard on bringing someone in + we do have cash left over from the summer kitty bag so im sure our main focus now would be a striker, a narrow loss to Schalke and a good win over Besiktas could be used as a platform to bring in a top top international striker. i can honestly see someone coming is after the 2 friendlies (Celta Vigo & Real sociedad) Dubai-saints89
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8:42am Sun 28 Jul 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger? Sally Hamilton Original
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8:55am Sun 28 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
hang on a minute....

where are the trolls? why aren't they here telling us all about how Saints are rubbish and are going to get relegated?

wait.... oh yes how silly of me - it's because we won. They never come crawling out from under their rock when we win.
We won and have 2 decent signing (hopefully 1 more soon!) and a bright future, I quite enjoy watching the trolls desperately scraping the barrel to find negative comments. Though I am enjoying the absence that once was a mass surplus of trolls and wums, hopefully they have found a life, or at least worked out how to open their front doors
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: hang on a minute.... where are the trolls? why aren't they here telling us all about how Saints are rubbish and are going to get relegated? wait.... oh yes how silly of me - it's because we won. They never come crawling out from under their rock when we win.[/p][/quote]We won and have 2 decent signing (hopefully 1 more soon!) and a bright future, I quite enjoy watching the trolls desperately scraping the barrel to find negative comments. Though I am enjoying the absence that once was a mass surplus of trolls and wums, hopefully they have found a life, or at least worked out how to open their front doors Satyricon Saint
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9:03am Sun 28 Jul 13

Stnana says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.
My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast !
VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season.

watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.
We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?
absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward.
I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.
I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in.

If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.
it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him.

I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod?
As I said the other day the whole business with Billy Sharp is very strange ! He did a good job at Nottingham but now they don't want him Doncaster do but have had no reply to their request two weeks ago to a loan agreement. I can't see us buying an expensive striker when we have some youngsters coming on. As there have also been rumours that NA is interested in Billy maybe a deal could be done for ALF who has made no secret of the fact he wants to play in the Premiership again this season. He's the right age, English, has Premiership experience, he's not far behind Ricky in goal scoring, and would only cost about £3million.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: My stream was appalling. From the little I saw I was impressed with Victor.[/p][/quote]My stream was half decent (lasted until they were walking up the tunnel) and Victor is a beast ![/p][/quote]VW is indeed a beast! I saw a couple of their players bounce off of him. I really believe he is going to make a big difference this season. watched all but the first ten mins and thought we did ok. yes its only a friendly and the result isn't that important but its always nice to get a win. it was also nice to see mayuka get a goal and would like to see him get some more game time.[/p][/quote]We've sorted out at the back and the middle now. Jay Rod and Rickie up front plus one. If we can't sign our targets is it worth giving the various strikers in the camp a go? If no one buys Billy Sharp and Tad Lee maybe they should get a cup game to see what they could do. I know some say they're not good enough, and that maybe the case, but others who were tipped to fail have stepped up well so can we be absolutely certain they wouldn't do the same?[/p][/quote]absolutely why not give them a go! I would love nothing more than to see billy get a chance and take it with both hands. its such a shame to see him and tad playing with the u21`s. however I cant see that happening, it looks like we are going to spend again and that will probably be a forward. I said the other day that I would like to see billy go, not because I don't rate him but because I`m sure he would rather get first team football than be stuck with the kids.[/p][/quote]I still find it odd that an overweight, unfit Billy, who had also had a massive personal tragedy, was signed in January just for the run in. If we do sign a new striker I think he should be the best one at the club. Our strategy of signing just a few top players is a really good one, but it does mean the players we're after are coveted by big clubs who may offer European football. It's not just about transfer fees and wages where we do seem to compete with anyone.[/p][/quote]it may be odd but he helped us get over the line, also buying him stopped other teams buying him. I love the fact that we are only buying quality players and not going the quantity route like other clubs have. if we do buy a striker where does that leave mayuka and j-rod?[/p][/quote]As I said the other day the whole business with Billy Sharp is very strange ! He did a good job at Nottingham but now they don't want him Doncaster do but have had no reply to their request two weeks ago to a loan agreement. I can't see us buying an expensive striker when we have some youngsters coming on. As there have also been rumours that NA is interested in Billy maybe a deal could be done for ALF who has made no secret of the fact he wants to play in the Premiership again this season. He's the right age, English, has Premiership experience, he's not far behind Ricky in goal scoring, and would only cost about £3million. Stnana
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9:04am Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Great preseason so far. I really get the impression that the squad is gelling and continuing to improve.

My one fear is that Adam still needs to make the jump and fulfil his potential. He has shown great loyalty, but I still think he needs to develop (perhaps muscle up a bit?) before he can truly terrorize PL defenders.
Great preseason so far. I really get the impression that the squad is gelling and continuing to improve. My one fear is that Adam still needs to make the jump and fulfil his potential. He has shown great loyalty, but I still think he needs to develop (perhaps muscle up a bit?) before he can truly terrorize PL defenders. Baddesley Bill
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9:05am Sun 28 Jul 13

SouthamptonLegend says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Wum
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Wum SouthamptonLegend
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9:05am Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2378319/So




uthampton-chairman-N




icola-Cortese-People




-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian




ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything. Confucious
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9:12am Sun 28 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Great preseason so far. I really get the impression that the squad is gelling and continuing to improve.

My one fear is that Adam still needs to make the jump and fulfil his potential. He has shown great loyalty, but I still think he needs to develop (perhaps muscle up a bit?) before he can truly terrorize PL defenders.
He started last season a yard to slow , massive step up from the C'ship ............. but he worked at the new pace of playing in the EPL and before he was injured he started to play exceptionally !

This was dashed when he picked up his knee injury but again before the end of the season (Reading when he came on ?) he started to play some great football again ..............

A quality young man who will come good this season me thinks ?????
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Great preseason so far. I really get the impression that the squad is gelling and continuing to improve. My one fear is that Adam still needs to make the jump and fulfil his potential. He has shown great loyalty, but I still think he needs to develop (perhaps muscle up a bit?) before he can truly terrorize PL defenders.[/p][/quote]He started last season a yard to slow , massive step up from the C'ship ............. but he worked at the new pace of playing in the EPL and before he was injured he started to play exceptionally ! This was dashed when he picked up his knee injury but again before the end of the season (Reading when he came on ?) he started to play some great football again .............. A quality young man who will come good this season me thinks ????? Buddy SFC
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9:18am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2378319/So




uthampton-chairman-N




icola-Cortese-People




-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian




ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
You say Nicola hasn't put a penny into the club, true?? I don't know. But what he has brought to the club, IMO, far outweighs a money input. Look where he has brought us in such a short time!!. He has made decisions that caused uproar at the time but always took the club to the next level, IMO. Sometimes money is not the best thing to invest with but business skills are priceless . I fee,l imo, that Nicola has earned his wages at SFC and hope he stays on the pay roll for the distant future.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]You say Nicola hasn't put a penny into the club, true?? I don't know. But what he has brought to the club, IMO, far outweighs a money input. Look where he has brought us in such a short time!!. He has made decisions that caused uproar at the time but always took the club to the next level, IMO. Sometimes money is not the best thing to invest with but business skills are priceless . I fee,l imo, that Nicola has earned his wages at SFC and hope he stays on the pay roll for the distant future. hedge end bob
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9:24am Sun 28 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail





.co.uk/sport/footbal





l/article-2378319/So





uthampton-chairman-N





icola-Cortese-People





-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian





ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
You say Nicola hasn't put a penny into the club, true?? I don't know. But what he has brought to the club, IMO, far outweighs a money input. Look where he has brought us in such a short time!!. He has made decisions that caused uproar at the time but always took the club to the next level, IMO. Sometimes money is not the best thing to invest with but business skills are priceless . I fee,l imo, that Nicola has earned his wages at SFC and hope he stays on the pay roll for the distant future.
Totally agree, not to mention, NC (and a whole team I'm sure) secured commercial partners and sponsers for the club, surely that's putting money into the club???
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]You say Nicola hasn't put a penny into the club, true?? I don't know. But what he has brought to the club, IMO, far outweighs a money input. Look where he has brought us in such a short time!!. He has made decisions that caused uproar at the time but always took the club to the next level, IMO. Sometimes money is not the best thing to invest with but business skills are priceless . I fee,l imo, that Nicola has earned his wages at SFC and hope he stays on the pay roll for the distant future.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, not to mention, NC (and a whole team I'm sure) secured commercial partners and sponsers for the club, surely that's putting money into the club??? Satyricon Saint
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9:24am Sun 28 Jul 13

John Shuttleworth says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2378319/So


uthampton-chairman-N


icola-Cortese-People


-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian


ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Poor screenshot one at

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=IaUf-o1uY
nQ
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Poor screenshot one at http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=IaUf-o1uY nQ John Shuttleworth
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9:28am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail





.co.uk/sport/footbal





l/article-2378319/So





uthampton-chairman-N





icola-Cortese-People





-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian





ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else. hedge end bob
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10:14am Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail






.co.uk/sport/footbal






l/article-2378319/So






uthampton-chairman-N






icola-Cortese-People






-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian






ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free. Confucious
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10:15am Sun 28 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Lloyd Isgrove seems to be doing well , is he our new wide man ???

Interesting to see if they sign anyone out wide or do they feel LS has made the step up this season ?????
Lloyd Isgrove seems to be doing well , is he our new wide man ??? Interesting to see if they sign anyone out wide or do they feel LS has made the step up this season ????? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 0

10:15am Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail







.co.uk/sport/footbal







l/article-2378319/So







uthampton-chairman-N







icola-Cortese-People







-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian







ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there. Confucious
  • Score: 0

10:23am Sun 28 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

If if's and but's were pots and pans there would be no need for tinkers..

Having said that...IF Adam can muscle up and play the final ball or an on target shot....IF our new CB's are decent headers of the ball and can score from set pieces....IF our team would be prepared to shoot on site...IF at least 4 players could get into double figures goalwise...

Then we will be a serious force BUT would that make everyone happy..
If if's and but's were pots and pans there would be no need for tinkers.. Having said that...IF Adam can muscle up and play the final ball or an on target shot....IF our new CB's are decent headers of the ball and can score from set pieces....IF our team would be prepared to shoot on site...IF at least 4 players could get into double figures goalwise... Then we will be a serious force BUT would that make everyone happy.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

10:25am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail








.co.uk/sport/footbal








l/article-2378319/So








uthampton-chairman-N








icola-Cortese-People








-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian








ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P. hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

10:28am Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2378319/So




uthampton-chairman-N




icola-Cortese-People




-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian




ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
ghk, going by your logic where do the freebies end and with who?

Maybe black and white is not so bad.

Also Dodd, Paine, show that there is a place for for legends at the club.

I would like a reconcilliation between Le Tiss, Benali, Lauri Mac and the club as much as anybody but they have all had their own individual issues with Cortese and I don't think they represent all legends/the clubs history.

You can't judge the clubs treatment of legends and the clubs history on them alone.

Great win over Besiktas. Good to see Lambert and Mayuka grab one. Isgrove could come good!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]ghk, going by your logic where do the freebies end and with who? Maybe black and white is not so bad. Also Dodd, Paine, show that there is a place for for legends at the club. I would like a reconcilliation between Le Tiss, Benali, Lauri Mac and the club as much as anybody but they have all had their own individual issues with Cortese and I don't think they represent all legends/the clubs history. You can't judge the clubs treatment of legends and the clubs history on them alone. Great win over Besiktas. Good to see Lambert and Mayuka grab one. Isgrove could come good! Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 0

10:30am Sun 28 Jul 13

Saint 2701 says...

Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward. Saint 2701
  • Score: 0

10:41am Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail







.co.uk/sport/footbal







l/article-2378319/So







uthampton-chairman-N







icola-Cortese-People







-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian







ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
You too have moved from bickering to having a right old love in. You'll be off on a date soon!

NC has achieved wonders for the club, no doubt about that. If there is a worry anywhere its about him keeping the owners onboard, there was a distinct wobble a few months back.

The ex-players thing isn't as black and white as you make out. Some aren't wealthy hence offering cup medals for sale. MLT could have earnt four times his wages by moving to Spurs or Chelsea. We were grateful for his loyalty then but don't see a free ticket as a reward for it now.

In principle I agree with the idea of dumping the general hangers on and free loaders but feel there are one or two potential exceptions to the rule.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]You too have moved from bickering to having a right old love in. You'll be off on a date soon! NC has achieved wonders for the club, no doubt about that. If there is a worry anywhere its about him keeping the owners onboard, there was a distinct wobble a few months back. The ex-players thing isn't as black and white as you make out. Some aren't wealthy hence offering cup medals for sale. MLT could have earnt four times his wages by moving to Spurs or Chelsea. We were grateful for his loyalty then but don't see a free ticket as a reward for it now. In principle I agree with the idea of dumping the general hangers on and free loaders but feel there are one or two potential exceptions to the rule. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:46am Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:14am Sun 28 Jul 13

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.[/p][/quote]AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well. george chivers
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11:27am Sun 28 Jul 13

Puddletown Saint says...

From the pub last night:-

First team

Boruc Clyne Yos Lovern Shaw
Wanyama Cork
Spider
Jay Gaston
Lambert

Second team

Gazza
Chambers Jose Jos Fox
JWP S Davis
Isgrove Adam Punch
Makuka

Back Up

K Davis
Stephens Turnbull Targett Gape
Guly Lee Hammond De Ridder
Barnard Sharp

See the synergy COYR
From the pub last night:- First team Boruc Clyne Yos Lovern Shaw Wanyama Cork Spider Jay Gaston Lambert Second team Gazza Chambers Jose Jos Fox JWP S Davis Isgrove Adam Punch Makuka Back Up K Davis Stephens Turnbull Targett Gape Guly Lee Hammond De Ridder Barnard Sharp See the synergy COYR Puddletown Saint
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11:34am Sun 28 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

Jus watched the highlights, Lambos and Mayukas strikes were quality! Fairplay to the young Lloyd Isgrove too for getting in on the act. Good performance impressed with Boruc too really dont need a new keeper or a winger surely? COYR!!
Jus watched the highlights, Lambos and Mayukas strikes were quality! Fairplay to the young Lloyd Isgrove too for getting in on the act. Good performance impressed with Boruc too really dont need a new keeper or a winger surely? COYR!! Northam Block 40
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11:35am Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos. Strasbourg Saint
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11:39am Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.
I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps.

I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.[/p][/quote]AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.[/p][/quote]I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps. I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing. Confucious
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11:44am Sun 28 Jul 13

arm chair fan says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
From the pub last night:-

First team

Boruc Clyne Yos Lovern Shaw
Wanyama Cork
Spider
Jay Gaston
Lambert

Second team

Gazza
Chambers Jose Jos Fox
JWP S Davis
Isgrove Adam Punch
Makuka

Back Up

K Davis
Stephens Turnbull Targett Gape
Guly Lee Hammond De Ridder
Barnard Sharp

See the synergy COYR
IMO not to far of the mark. Would have a bet that Guly gets more match time (EPL) than the last 5 put together. Think the first 22 plus Guly plus the new striker will be enough to take us up the league !
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: From the pub last night:- First team Boruc Clyne Yos Lovern Shaw Wanyama Cork Spider Jay Gaston Lambert Second team Gazza Chambers Jose Jos Fox JWP S Davis Isgrove Adam Punch Makuka Back Up K Davis Stephens Turnbull Targett Gape Guly Lee Hammond De Ridder Barnard Sharp See the synergy COYR[/p][/quote]IMO not to far of the mark. Would have a bet that Guly gets more match time (EPL) than the last 5 put together. Think the first 22 plus Guly plus the new striker will be enough to take us up the league ! arm chair fan
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11:45am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Stras, my wife has just read your post, she want's too know who's CONNY!!!!
Do you think she would believe ...a mixed up young man in a RED shirt???
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.[/p][/quote]Stras, my wife has just read your post, she want's too know who's CONNY!!!! Do you think she would believe ...a mixed up young man in a RED shirt??? hedge end bob
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11:48am Sun 28 Jul 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Good post!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.[/p][/quote]Good post! Sally Hamilton Original
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11:48am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game???? hedge end bob
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11:51am Sun 28 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol Northam Block 40
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11:51am Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Largely true except for point 6.

When I got a job helping the girls put their skimpy underwear on prior to their performances at the Pudong Strip Club, I used to pay the owner, Mr Du, fourteen yuan an hour to do the job.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.[/p][/quote]Largely true except for point 6. When I got a job helping the girls put their skimpy underwear on prior to their performances at the Pudong Strip Club, I used to pay the owner, Mr Du, fourteen yuan an hour to do the job. Confucious
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11:52am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Good post!
Sally, strike out para 4 , it won't happen on this earth. I blame THE SEED for spreading this rumour .
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.[/p][/quote]Good post![/p][/quote]Sally, strike out para 4 , it won't happen on this earth. I blame THE SEED for spreading this rumour . hedge end bob
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11:53am Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL hedge end bob
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11:58am Sun 28 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Here we go again...

Southampton have rekindled their interest in Valencia midfielder Ever Banega as Mauricio Pochettino continues his St Mary’s revolution.
The Saints made a bid for the Argentine star in June, but had to put the move on hold as they pushed through a deal for Victor Wanyama.
But the Kenyan has now signed, and SportsDirect News understands Pochettino has turned his attentions back to Banega.
Valencia would be loath to lose another one of their key men, with striker Roberto Soldado set to join Tottenham Hotspur.
As such, they have slapped a £10 million asking price on Banega’s head - £3m above the Saints’ first bid.
But Pochettino is confident a deal can be done, and hopes to table a fresh offer this week.
Here we go again... Southampton have rekindled their interest in Valencia midfielder Ever Banega as Mauricio Pochettino continues his St Mary’s revolution. The Saints made a bid for the Argentine star in June, but had to put the move on hold as they pushed through a deal for Victor Wanyama. But the Kenyan has now signed, and SportsDirect News understands Pochettino has turned his attentions back to Banega. Valencia would be loath to lose another one of their key men, with striker Roberto Soldado set to join Tottenham Hotspur. As such, they have slapped a £10 million asking price on Banega’s head - £3m above the Saints’ first bid. But Pochettino is confident a deal can be done, and hopes to table a fresh offer this week. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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12:01pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay?? Northam Block 40
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12:01pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay?? Northam Block 40
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12:09pm Sun 28 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.
lets not forget that lalla got an England cap last season. we were all singing his praises then and unfortunately he picked up that injury and he struggled to get back to form.
I never thought lalla should be captain and would rather see spider given the arm band, that's no reflection on lalla just think he isn't captain material.
looking forward to seeing the new signings against real sociedad, hope there might be another one or two new additions by then as well.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.[/p][/quote]AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.[/p][/quote]lets not forget that lalla got an England cap last season. we were all singing his praises then and unfortunately he picked up that injury and he struggled to get back to form. I never thought lalla should be captain and would rather see spider given the arm band, that's no reflection on lalla just think he isn't captain material. looking forward to seeing the new signings against real sociedad, hope there might be another one or two new additions by then as well. el caballo santos101
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12:31pm Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
f*ck it i'll walk!!!

On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done.
What formation do you think we will play if this comes off?
An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay??[/p][/quote]f*ck it i'll walk!!! On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done. What formation do you think we will play if this comes off? An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important. hedge end bob
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12:35pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Just a quick general response to much of the above.

1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint.

2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say?

3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful.

4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red.

5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc.

6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward.

Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.
Stras, my wife has just read your post, she want's too know who's CONNY!!!!
Do you think she would believe ...a mixed up young man in a RED shirt???
Point her in the direction of Conny's post at 11.51am. If that doesn't work, get her online at: www.confuciousblahbl
ahblah.com (you may need to Google it). If that doesn't confuse her, nothing will.

You going to Norwich?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Just a quick general response to much of the above. 1. Kenny, (11.26pm) you're usually right about who's a wum and so forth but I think your go at Displaced is ..... um ..... misplaced. He's a Saint. 2. Legend (9.05am), why is Sally a WUM for suggesting the Damiao deal could be about to go through? Have you ever had anything constructive to say? 3. Turicky (great name), thanks for the feedback, very helpful. 4. Conny and Bob's love in. It's the next big thing, but I still fear that when they meet for that date and Conny turns up in his new shirt, Bob'll be seeing red. 5. Ex-staff and freebies. If I became an ex-fan, how would the club reward me? Simple, it wouldn't and I have NEVER taken anything out of the club. Ex-staff, whatever their role, gave what they gave on a daily basis and were rewarded for it. It's no different to jobs we have all done in the past. I expect nothing from past employers, and neither should Le Tiss etc. 6. 'Cortese has invested none of his own money.' Correct. Has anyone on here who doesn't own a company ever given any money to their employer? Thought not. He does a job and gets paid for it - period! I don't agree with all that he does and he does get far too well paid (as is the case throughout football) but it's the going rate and, on balance, he's doing a mighty fine job. He doesn't owe the club a penny; he just has to earn his reward. Finally, Warrens. I hope that 'Brazillian' you mentioned yesterday evening was as tasty as the Mexican we ate. Nothing better than a bit of Latino on a hot and steamy evening, is there? Buenas tardes (or, boa tarde) a todos.[/p][/quote]Stras, my wife has just read your post, she want's too know who's CONNY!!!! Do you think she would believe ...a mixed up young man in a RED shirt???[/p][/quote]Point her in the direction of Conny's post at 11.51am. If that doesn't work, get her online at: www.confuciousblahbl ahblah.com (you may need to Google it). If that doesn't confuse her, nothing will. You going to Norwich? Strasbourg Saint
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12:39pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Northam Block 40 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
f*ck it i'll walk!!!

On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done.
What formation do you think we will play if this comes off?
An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.
still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark...
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay??[/p][/quote]f*ck it i'll walk!!! On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done. What formation do you think we will play if this comes off? An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.[/p][/quote]still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark... Northam Block 40
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12:43pm Sun 28 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks DisplacedFan
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12:44pm Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
f*ck it i'll walk!!!

On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done.
What formation do you think we will play if this comes off?
An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.
still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark...
yea , a lot of options . Myself I think we will see a different Gaston this year.

Yes Stras, I will be going to NORWICH ,why??
I know where to park there, don't let's go down that road!!.
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay??[/p][/quote]f*ck it i'll walk!!! On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done. What formation do you think we will play if this comes off? An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.[/p][/quote]still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark...[/p][/quote]yea , a lot of options . Myself I think we will see a different Gaston this year. Yes Stras, I will be going to NORWICH ,why?? I know where to park there, don't let's go down that road!!. hedge end bob
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12:47pm Sun 28 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

saintkenny wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.
should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!!
Sorry you missed the point here. My last sentence says it all. The naysayers are all the trolls who come on here only to blast our great team.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.[/p][/quote]should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Sorry you missed the point here. My last sentence says it all. The naysayers are all the trolls who come on here only to blast our great team. DisplacedFan
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12:50pm Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally???
Will cost us 22 mil.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks[/p][/quote]There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally??? Will cost us 22 mil. hedge end bob
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12:54pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
f*ck it i'll walk!!!

On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done.
What formation do you think we will play if this comes off?
An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.
still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark...
yea , a lot of options . Myself I think we will see a different Gaston this year.

Yes Stras, I will be going to NORWICH ,why??
I know where to park there, don't let's go down that road!!.
We'll be there. I just hope most of the keen away fans are still in the Algarve, otherwise, I've no idea how we'll get tickets, but the trains are booked, so we'll be parking a cross-country express on Platform 1. :)

Rising Son should be there, too, so maybe a pre-match drink or post-match dinner would be possible.

We'll arrive lunchtime-ish and leave on a 6.30pm train afterwards.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay??[/p][/quote]f*ck it i'll walk!!! On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done. What formation do you think we will play if this comes off? An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.[/p][/quote]still think poch would fancy the 4231 banega jus behind the strikers with spider and cork/wanyama behind. I reckon and hope that poch turns Gaston into an out and out striker so if we need him he can step up to the mark...[/p][/quote]yea , a lot of options . Myself I think we will see a different Gaston this year. Yes Stras, I will be going to NORWICH ,why?? I know where to park there, don't let's go down that road!!.[/p][/quote]We'll be there. I just hope most of the keen away fans are still in the Algarve, otherwise, I've no idea how we'll get tickets, but the trains are booked, so we'll be parking a cross-country express on Platform 1. :) Rising Son should be there, too, so maybe a pre-match drink or post-match dinner would be possible. We'll arrive lunchtime-ish and leave on a 6.30pm train afterwards. Strasbourg Saint
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12:57pm Sun 28 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Wum
Do you only common here to criticize the true fans of this club? Not only is this disrespectful of Sally but also wrong. Don't act like the trolls who come on here. Show some class. Be a legend of the right kind.
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Wum[/p][/quote]Do you only common here to criticize the true fans of this club? Not only is this disrespectful of Sally but also wrong. Don't act like the trolls who come on here. Show some class. Be a legend of the right kind. DisplacedFan
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1:24pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2378319/So



uthampton-chairman-N



icola-Cortese-People



-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian



ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
Do you mean this one?

http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
12691/8841284/southa
mpton-chairman-nicol
a-cortese-defends-bi
g-spending
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]Do you mean this one? http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 12691/8841284/southa mpton-chairman-nicol a-cortese-defends-bi g-spending Thornhill Saint
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1:28pm Sun 28 Jul 13

george chivers says...

Confucious wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.
I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps.

I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing.
What can you tell us about his arms?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.[/p][/quote]AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.[/p][/quote]I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps. I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing.[/p][/quote]What can you tell us about his arms? george chivers
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1:34pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2378319/So




uthampton-chairman-N




icola-Cortese-People




-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian




ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
Do you mean this one?

http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

12691/8841284/southa

mpton-chairman-nicol

a-cortese-defends-bi

g-spending
From the Interview two days ago with Sky Sports Cortese said:

"We try to create a fantastic working environment, whether it's in the offices or on a football pitch. It actually motivates people to work and to work even harder,"

"He is a player we didn't think we could really land to be honest. Even though he'd been having some issues at Lyon, it's part of the circumstances and we are very happy to have him on board,"

"We had to be patient in negotiations but ultimately, we got the player on terms which are fair value to him and he is a quality addition.

"I don't pay anything which is not justified, so whatever the fee is, whatever the topic is, everything you pay needs to be justified and if you can't justify it, I'm not prepared to pay anything.

"My way is the Southampton way so that's what we are all working towards; it's the culture we've built.

"It's not only me, whilst I'm the figurehead there's a lot of people who are with me on that and we all drive in one direction."

It all looks positive and says a bit more about Cortese's phillosphy. £20 million spent and we still want another £22 million striker! We don't ask for much, and times are good!
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]Do you mean this one? http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 12691/8841284/southa mpton-chairman-nicol a-cortese-defends-bi g-spending[/p][/quote]From the Interview two days ago with Sky Sports Cortese said: "We try to create a fantastic working environment, whether it's in the offices or on a football pitch. It actually motivates people to work and to work even harder," "He [Louvren] is a player we didn't think we could really land to be honest. Even though he'd been having some issues at Lyon, it's part of the circumstances and we are very happy to have him on board," "We had to be patient in negotiations but ultimately, we got the player on terms which are fair value to him [Wanyama] and he is a quality addition. "I don't pay anything which is not justified, so whatever the fee is, whatever the topic is, everything you pay needs to be justified and if you can't justify it, I'm not prepared to pay anything. "My way is the Southampton way so that's what we are all working towards; it's the culture we've built. "It's not only me, whilst I'm the figurehead there's a lot of people who are with me on that and we all drive in one direction." It all looks positive and says a bit more about Cortese's phillosphy. £20 million spent and we still want another £22 million striker! We don't ask for much, and times are good! Thornhill Saint
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1:35pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

The player he did not think he could land was Louvren and the being patient in negotiations bit onwards is about Wanyama.
The player he did not think he could land was Louvren and the being patient in negotiations bit onwards is about Wanyama. Thornhill Saint
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2:02pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

hedge end bob wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally???
Will cost us 22 mil.
I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks[/p][/quote]There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally??? Will cost us 22 mil.[/p][/quote]I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!! Sally Hamilton Original
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2:09pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Northam Block 40 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????
in a car park?? lol
You knob we are going by boat . LOL
LOL!! a docking bay??
f*ck it i'll walk!!!

On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done.
What formation do you think we will play if this comes off?
An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.
Slightly worried about the Banega deal because he is a creative midfielder it known for pace or goals but more for the defence splitting killer pass... So does this then pave the way for a Ramirez exit, or does he come on as a sub to float behind 1 striker
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: AWAY FANS , where can I park at the WBA game????[/p][/quote]in a car park?? lol[/p][/quote]You knob we are going by boat . LOL[/p][/quote]LOL!! a docking bay??[/p][/quote]f*ck it i'll walk!!! On Newsnow it say's we are back in for Banega? His club have jacked up the asking price too 10 mil from 7. Ponchy still feels a deal can be done. What formation do you think we will play if this comes off? An awful lot of midfield players, thought a striker was more important.[/p][/quote]Slightly worried about the Banega deal because he is a creative midfielder it known for pace or goals but more for the defence splitting killer pass... So does this then pave the way for a Ramirez exit, or does he come on as a sub to float behind 1 striker Sally Hamilton Original
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2:22pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally???
Will cost us 22 mil.
I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!!
You lying, no good WUM!!



Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :)
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks[/p][/quote]There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally??? Will cost us 22 mil.[/p][/quote]I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!![/p][/quote]You lying, no good WUM!! Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :) Strasbourg Saint
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2:25pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail









.co.uk/sport/footbal









l/article-2378319/So









uthampton-chairman-N









icola-Cortese-People









-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian









ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd. ghk230473
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2:29pm Sun 28 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

2 more players for serious success...partly needed as cover or just needed...then the world is ours...
2 more players for serious success...partly needed as cover or just needed...then the world is ours... warrens 76
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2:34pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail










.co.uk/sport/footbal










l/article-2378319/So










uthampton-chairman-N










icola-Cortese-People










-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian










ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR Baddesley Bill
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2:38pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)? Thornhill Saint
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2:40pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

GHK, if the three legends you mention did deserve a lifetime of free season tickets, were offered them and then gladly took them - when they can all afford to buy them - then they'd be guilty of ripping the club off. As all three claim that they love the club, that would be a rather bizarre scenario.

I love the club and can't afford a lifetime of season tickets and I've been supporting Saints FREELY for longer and have travelled further in that support than all three of them. If offered, I'd NEVER take a freebie - it's not Saintly - so why should they?
GHK, if the three legends you mention did deserve a lifetime of free season tickets, were offered them and then gladly took them - when they can all afford to buy them - then they'd be guilty of ripping the club off. As all three claim that they love the club, that would be a rather bizarre scenario. I love the club and can't afford a lifetime of season tickets and I've been supporting Saints FREELY for longer and have travelled further in that support than all three of them. If offered, I'd NEVER take a freebie - it's not Saintly - so why should they? Strasbourg Saint
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2:51pm Sun 28 Jul 13

arm chair fan says...

ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

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Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
but, as I understand it, it wasn't just their free ticket, it was "mates" and bottles of bubbly and other hospitality, at a time when the club was strapped for cash.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]but, as I understand it, it wasn't just their free ticket, it was "mates" and bottles of bubbly and other hospitality, at a time when the club was strapped for cash. arm chair fan
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2:53pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season.

I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday.

Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.
Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore.

I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.
AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.
I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps.

I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing.
What can you tell us about his arms?
Whilst I have not examined them myself, they are clearly extremely flexible and similar to the limbs of cephalopods ie octopus, starfish etc.

I know this because I was close to the touchline one day when the physio ran on to deal with Adam. I distinctly overheard Adam say he'd taken a kick in the tentacles.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Great result, i think Mayuka has earnt the right to start the next game, high hopes for him this season. I also think we should cash in on Lallana, really unimpressed with him since our step up to the premiership and was completely non-existant again yesterday. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Lambo get's the captains armband back he finds the back of the net again, and we look alot more dangerous going forward.[/p][/quote]Adam should not be captain. It suits Rickie but if we sign a top striker he might not be ever present which is probably why Adam hasn't got it anymore. I though AL did step up prior to the injury but never fully returned to pre injury form.[/p][/quote]AL has a quick brain and quick feet but unfortunately he hasn't got quick legs, which are essential for the PL. If he had quick legs he would be playing on the right on his natural foot and going past full-backs. Might be worth a try behind the striker. But the striker couldn't be RL because he lacks pace as well.[/p][/quote]I think Adam's problem is more complex. It seems to me that the collodiaphysial angle of the hamstrings to the anterior dorsal hip muscle is quick as lightening, but slowed by the inertochateric crest inhibiting the trochanter connecting the flexion and gemilli muscles to the quadriceps. I could be wrong of course - quite honestly arms are more my thing.[/p][/quote]What can you tell us about his arms?[/p][/quote]Whilst I have not examined them myself, they are clearly extremely flexible and similar to the limbs of cephalopods ie octopus, starfish etc. I know this because I was close to the touchline one day when the physio ran on to deal with Adam. I distinctly overheard Adam say he'd taken a kick in the tentacles. Confucious
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3:01pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.' ghk230473
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3:04pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.' ghk230473
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3:04pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.' ghk230473
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3:07pm Sun 28 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally???
Will cost us 22 mil.
I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!!
You lying, no good WUM!!



Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :)
No worries here, Sally.
Thanks
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks[/p][/quote]There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally??? Will cost us 22 mil.[/p][/quote]I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!![/p][/quote]You lying, no good WUM!! Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :)[/p][/quote]No worries here, Sally. Thanks DisplacedFan
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3:32pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'[/p][/quote]So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula. Thornhill Saint
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3:36pm Sun 28 Jul 13

King Sausage says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett. King Sausage
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3:43pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.
Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager!
Lowe was the same.

Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well.

I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'[/p][/quote]So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.[/p][/quote]Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager! Lowe was the same. Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well. I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan. ghk230473
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3:49pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

King Sausage wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett.
Thanks for that. I know the interview. I think GHK has added his own little negative twist or done something to that affect .
[quote][p][bold]King Sausage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I know the interview. I think GHK has added his own little negative twist or done something to that affect . Thornhill Saint
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3:49pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

King Sausage wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett.
Thanks for that. I know the interview. I think GHK has added his own little negative twist or done something to that affect .
[quote][p][bold]King Sausage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]Try YouTube. Jim White visits visits Southampton fc in Austria . Posted on there by by Chris Garrett.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I know the interview. I think GHK has added his own little negative twist or done something to that affect . Thornhill Saint
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3:52pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago! Baddesley Bill
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3:58pm Sun 28 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.
should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!!
Sorry you missed the point here. My last sentence says it all. The naysayers are all the trolls who come on here only to blast our great team.
most of the trolls are pompey fans using logins not related to the club or some do use it dont be fooled
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: We only scored three and RL only scored once? So we have multiple strikers? This is not the kind of result our naysayers want to see.[/p][/quote]should you not be worried about your own team only a draw with braintree and 3 0 in your own back to charlton no goals in either game .why say we when your a pompey fan ,so your not worthy of that honour !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Sorry you missed the point here. My last sentence says it all. The naysayers are all the trolls who come on here only to blast our great team.[/p][/quote]most of the trolls are pompey fans using logins not related to the club or some do use it dont be fooled saintkenny
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3:59pm Sun 28 Jul 13

batesieboy says...

Dubai-saints89 wrote:
impressed from what ive seen so far this pre season. i think all areas are pretty much covered however a proven goal scorer, a striker would be nice. im sure MP is working hard on bringing someone in + we do have cash left over from the summer kitty bag so im sure our main focus now would be a striker, a narrow loss to Schalke and a good win over Besiktas could be used as a platform to bring in a top top international striker. i can honestly see someone coming is after the 2 friendlies (Celta Vigo & Real sociedad)
Wouldn't that be a little late?
[quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: impressed from what ive seen so far this pre season. i think all areas are pretty much covered however a proven goal scorer, a striker would be nice. im sure MP is working hard on bringing someone in + we do have cash left over from the summer kitty bag so im sure our main focus now would be a striker, a narrow loss to Schalke and a good win over Besiktas could be used as a platform to bring in a top top international striker. i can honestly see someone coming is after the 2 friendlies (Celta Vigo & Real sociedad)[/p][/quote]Wouldn't that be a little late? batesieboy
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4:01pm Sun 28 Jul 13

saintand266 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?
Do you have a source for that, Sally?
Thanks
There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally???
Will cost us 22 mil.
I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!!
You lying, no good WUM!!



Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :)
No worries here, Sally.
Thanks
I read something a couple of days ago in which NC said negotiations with Damiaos representatives were ongoing and he was confident something would be announced in a few days.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I have heard the Damiao deal is almost done and he will be signed when the team get back from Austria. If this is true this would be amazing. Sounds like Isgrove is flourishing.. Haven't seen him yet, is he quick and if so do we still need a winger?[/p][/quote]Do you have a source for that, Sally? Thanks[/p][/quote]There is mention of it on News Now .co.uk this morning. Is that where you got it Sally??? Will cost us 22 mil.[/p][/quote]I do have another source but I can't say it (I know I will get backlash for saying that) but am just giving you guys a little info so those that think I am lying its fine for those others it gives a little hope!![/p][/quote]You lying, no good WUM!! Oh no, I'm turning into Legend :)[/p][/quote]No worries here, Sally. Thanks[/p][/quote]I read something a couple of days ago in which NC said negotiations with Damiaos representatives were ongoing and he was confident something would be announced in a few days. saintand266
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4:07pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.
Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager! Lowe was the same. Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well. I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan.
How many other owners have that experience? I think you are living in a bit of a dreamland. Cortese I think knows more than you give him credit for and ..... He always has Les . I agree stability would be good but not over our EPL status .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'[/p][/quote]So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.[/p][/quote]Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager! Lowe was the same. Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well. I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan.[/p][/quote]How many other owners have that experience? I think you are living in a bit of a dreamland. Cortese I think knows more than you give him credit for and ..... He always has Les . I agree stability would be good but not over our EPL status . Thornhill Saint
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4:10pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner. Strasbourg Saint
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4:11pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?
'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'
So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.
Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager! Lowe was the same. Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well. I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan.
How many other owners have that experience? I think you are living in a bit of a dreamland. Cortese I think knows more than you give him credit for and ..... He always has Les . I agree stability would be good but not over our EPL status .
Owners/CEOs
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]Where does Cortese say he likes to sack. Managers (or words to that effect)?[/p][/quote]'It seems cold, but I do everything in order to progress. I don't want to lose five matches in a row before I sack the manager - I do it before that happens.'[/p][/quote]So the Do. Never said he liked sacking managerss . They were your word not his. As for sacking and their timing. Its an ugly side.of football. Cortese can be proved wrong. Ask Reading if they. Got it right. stability is unfortunatly. Not a magic formula.[/p][/quote]Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager! Lowe was the same. Another fact is we've had 3 managers in 4 seasons and we've been in the accendancy! It doesn't bode well. I just hope we can have a period of stability.... I think the last was under strachan.[/p][/quote]How many other owners have that experience? I think you are living in a bit of a dreamland. Cortese I think knows more than you give him credit for and ..... He always has Les . I agree stability would be good but not over our EPL status .[/p][/quote]Owners/CEOs Thornhill Saint
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4:31pm Sun 28 Jul 13

batesieboy says...

If we could get Damiao I promise not to ask for anything for Xmas. How unselfish is that?
If we could get Damiao I promise not to ask for anything for Xmas. How unselfish is that? batesieboy
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4:38pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical!

Here's a good 1 to add to list.
Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent!
Great business, football management!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical! Here's a good 1 to add to list. Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent! Great business, football management! ghk230473
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4:40pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
L2????

...surely we never sank THAT low? ;O)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]L2???? ...surely we never sank THAT low? ;O) Baddesley Bill
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4:40pm Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
If he don't bring out a new shirt with STRIPES IN RED AND WHITE ON IT., I WILL HELP CARRY THE BANNER!!!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]If he don't bring out a new shirt with STRIPES IN RED AND WHITE ON IT., I WILL HELP CARRY THE BANNER!!! hedge end bob
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4:40pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

John Shuttleworth wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2378319/So



uthampton-chairman-N



icola-Cortese-People



-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian



ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Poor screenshot one at

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=IaUf-o1uY

nQ
That's what I was looking for. Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Poor screenshot one at http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=IaUf-o1uY nQ[/p][/quote]That's what I was looking for. Thanks. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:41pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

ghk Arsenal 2-2, the days when managers ran clubs from top to bottom and had a major role in most clubs’ business and footballing strategies are about as relevant as King Arthur’s round table to modern government, and as mythical as Camelot.
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Ultimately, throughout the history of professional football, at every club, the board is responsible for all decisions relating to money. More fool them if they let Harry Redknapp do the bargaining.
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It’s no secret Nicola Cortese has a recruitment team and signs the cheques. There may be exceptions, but the best most managers can expect these days (at any top club in Europe) is to be kept informed and have the right to an opinion.
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The reasons for this in Saints' case are fairly obvious, but not often discussed in publications such as the Southern Daily Echo. Nicola drops a little hint in the interview: “the Southampton way”.
ghk Arsenal 2-2, the days when managers ran clubs from top to bottom and had a major role in most clubs’ business and footballing strategies are about as relevant as King Arthur’s round table to modern government, and as mythical as Camelot. . Ultimately, throughout the history of professional football, at every club, the board is responsible for all decisions relating to money. More fool them if they let Harry Redknapp do the bargaining. . It’s no secret Nicola Cortese has a recruitment team and signs the cheques. There may be exceptions, but the best most managers can expect these days (at any top club in Europe) is to be kept informed and have the right to an opinion. . The reasons for this in Saints' case are fairly obvious, but not often discussed in publications such as the Southern Daily Echo. Nicola drops a little hint in the interview: “the Southampton way”. Dave Juson
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4:41pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

batesieboy wrote:
If we could get Damiao I promise not to ask for anything for Xmas. How unselfish is that?
Very fair and before the January window :)
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: If we could get Damiao I promise not to ask for anything for Xmas. How unselfish is that?[/p][/quote]Very fair and before the January window :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:42pm Sun 28 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Conny where are you?????
Conny where are you????? hedge end bob
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4:48pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical!

Here's a good 1 to add to list.
Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent!
Great business, football management!
ghk...do you really think for one moment that no other PL club has fans with exactly the same whinges?

I went to Wigan last year and some of their fans wanted Martinez out...and some even whinged about their own chairman Dave Whelan...even whilst we stood outside the shiney new stadium that he'd funded for them to take to the Prem.

Seemed very shortsighted to me.

Nowt so fickle as some football folk mate!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical! Here's a good 1 to add to list. Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent! Great business, football management![/p][/quote]ghk...do you really think for one moment that no other PL club has fans with exactly the same whinges? I went to Wigan last year and some of their fans wanted Martinez out...and some even whinged about their own chairman Dave Whelan...even whilst we stood outside the shiney new stadium that he'd funded for them to take to the Prem. Seemed very shortsighted to me. Nowt so fickle as some football folk mate! Baddesley Bill
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4:49pm Sun 28 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

"Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager!"

what qualifications and/or knowledge do you need to be able to sack a football manager?

to be fair I think the fact that we are back in the prem in double quick time and being as well run and respected as we are is qualification enough.
I really don't get your point though, are you suggesting that just because he doesn't come from a football back round he shouldn't be in charge of the club? if that's the case then that's a very backwards way of thinking and smacks of the old tie network which is the way the FA is run and English football is not exactly been a huge success has it.
NC has his faults and his critics and sometimes with good reason, however I think he`s proved he is more than capable of running our club.
"Doesn't change the fact he's a banker believing he has the qualifications and knowledge to sack a football manager!" what qualifications and/or knowledge do you need to be able to sack a football manager? to be fair I think the fact that we are back in the prem in double quick time and being as well run and respected as we are is qualification enough. I really don't get your point though, are you suggesting that just because he doesn't come from a football back round he shouldn't be in charge of the club? if that's the case then that's a very backwards way of thinking and smacks of the old tie network which is the way the FA is run and English football is not exactly been a huge success has it. NC has his faults and his critics and sometimes with good reason, however I think he`s proved he is more than capable of running our club. el caballo santos101
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4:52pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail











.co.uk/sport/footbal











l/article-2378319/So











uthampton-chairman-N











icola-Cortese-People











-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian











ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical!

Here's a good 1 to add to list.
Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent!
Great business, football management!
Penny Pinching at the beginning of 11/12 or giving the promotion winning side some credit. Jack Cork being brought in was a major coup, and Hooiveldt also played a major part. Got us promoted without spending a lot, credit to NC and his team. ( I don't want to mention Danny Fox but he is still a major squad player!)

January Transfer signings: Billy Sharp's goals were vital in getting us promoted and it stopped rivals signing him. Looks a pretty good decision to me.

Tad lee was on a free and he contributed goal of the season. Put us on the map in Japan. Also not a bad move in my opinion.

You forgot Jos Hooiveldt being made permenant in Jan transfer window. He has more than contributed to the squad.

Though Forren was not a raging success not all transfers for any club all work out. If we did have major injury problems he would have covered. At least NC was able to transfer him back from whence he came. Unless you know the ins and outs of the return deal it is unfair to speculate.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical! Here's a good 1 to add to list. Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent! Great business, football management![/p][/quote]Penny Pinching at the beginning of 11/12 or giving the promotion winning side some credit. Jack Cork being brought in was a major coup, and Hooiveldt also played a major part. Got us promoted without spending a lot, credit to NC and his team. ( I don't want to mention Danny Fox but he is still a major squad player!) January Transfer signings: Billy Sharp's goals were vital in getting us promoted and it stopped rivals signing him. Looks a pretty good decision to me. Tad lee was on a free and he contributed goal of the season. Put us on the map in Japan. Also not a bad move in my opinion. You forgot Jos Hooiveldt being made permenant in Jan transfer window. He has more than contributed to the squad. Though Forren was not a raging success not all transfers for any club all work out. If we did have major injury problems he would have covered. At least NC was able to transfer him back from whence he came. Unless you know the ins and outs of the return deal it is unfair to speculate. Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail












.co.uk/sport/footbal












l/article-2378319/So












uthampton-chairman-N












icola-Cortese-People












-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian












ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever.

Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general.

Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.[/p][/quote]Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever. Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general. Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable. Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 0

5:24pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical!

Here's a good 1 to add to list.
Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent!
Great business, football management!
ghk...do you really think for one moment that no other PL club has fans with exactly the same whinges?

I went to Wigan last year and some of their fans wanted Martinez out...and some even whinged about their own chairman Dave Whelan...even whilst we stood outside the shiney new stadium that he'd funded for them to take to the Prem.

Seemed very shortsighted to me.

Nowt so fickle as some football folk mate!
I've posted before that I'm not after overnight success, what I'm after is stability. I'm not cortèse biggest fan like some, my kids have the players posters on wall not chairmans!

We are about where we should be for a club our size, I'm happy with our position. I have a little worry about stability, certain spins that come from club and black n white attitude of chairman. I'm more of a carrot than stick person.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]Lmfao... Some do get very theatrical! Here's a good 1 to add to list. Penny pinch over signings at start of season 2011/12, going for promotion, chance of winning the league and have injuries but still penny pinch then finally make 2 signings (at the end of jan transfer window) of which have no bearing on squad let alone team now! But we can sign a defender for 3.5m plus wages who doesn't play a game for 1st team... Finally sell him obviously at a loss and yet we are so prudent! Great business, football management![/p][/quote]ghk...do you really think for one moment that no other PL club has fans with exactly the same whinges? I went to Wigan last year and some of their fans wanted Martinez out...and some even whinged about their own chairman Dave Whelan...even whilst we stood outside the shiney new stadium that he'd funded for them to take to the Prem. Seemed very shortsighted to me. Nowt so fickle as some football folk mate![/p][/quote]I've posted before that I'm not after overnight success, what I'm after is stability. I'm not cortèse biggest fan like some, my kids have the players posters on wall not chairmans! We are about where we should be for a club our size, I'm happy with our position. I have a little worry about stability, certain spins that come from club and black n white attitude of chairman. I'm more of a carrot than stick person. ghk230473
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5:24pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
L2????

...surely we never sank THAT low? ;O)
Grief! You're right. I've clearly forgotten how to count count!

After all, any team with a half decent fan base, reasonable facilities and a prestigious history would NEVER sink that low, would they?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]L2???? ...surely we never sank THAT low? ;O)[/p][/quote]Grief! You're right. I've clearly forgotten how to count count! After all, any team with a half decent fan base, reasonable facilities and a prestigious history would NEVER sink that low, would they? Strasbourg Saint
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5:25pm Sun 28 Jul 13

MGRA says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

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Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever.

Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general.

Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.
there is a lot posted on here about NC. The fact is that he is a businessman and knows how to make crucial decisions. But some of his behaviour is sociapathic and he has no empathy to certain people around him. This is clear. What is not so clear is whether or not there is enough in the tank to keep Saints on the right path. Also whether or not enough people are happy to junk Saint's past history and embrace "new saints". A shney new team bus a fabulous new club does not make.... for me the jury is still out. The kit fiasco shows someone does not know how to negociate properly and hopefully we won't be saying the lack of another signing will not show the same... still I am an optimist, albeit begrudgingly.... the first 5 games will tell. With the strength of team building in the Prem, there won't be any luxury like last season's start followed by a second chance.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.[/p][/quote]Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever. Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general. Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.[/p][/quote]there is a lot posted on here about NC. The fact is that he is a businessman and knows how to make crucial decisions. But some of his behaviour is sociapathic and he has no empathy to certain people around him. This is clear. What is not so clear is whether or not there is enough in the tank to keep Saints on the right path. Also whether or not enough people are happy to junk Saint's past history and embrace "new saints". A shney new team bus a fabulous new club does not make.... for me the jury is still out. The kit fiasco shows someone does not know how to negociate properly and hopefully we won't be saying the lack of another signing will not show the same... still I am an optimist, albeit begrudgingly.... the first 5 games will tell. With the strength of team building in the Prem, there won't be any luxury like last season's start followed by a second chance. MGRA
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5:35pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

http://www.dailymail













.co.uk/sport/footbal













l/article-2378319/So













uthampton-chairman-N













icola-Cortese-People













-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian













ded-Saints.html

Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever.

Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general.

Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.
I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC.

I know FB better and have heard his side of that story.

There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come.

As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.[/p][/quote]Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever. Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general. Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.[/p][/quote]I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC. I know FB better and have heard his side of that story. There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come. As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:35pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

A lot of speculation and conjecture going on here.

In the football business world, the CEO knows something about everything and the manager knows everything about something - but only the switchboard operator knows everything.

I shall contact her on her direct line in the morning.
A lot of speculation and conjecture going on here. In the football business world, the CEO knows something about everything and the manager knows everything about something - but only the switchboard operator knows everything. I shall contact her on her direct line in the morning. Confucious
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5:37pm Sun 28 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID st1halo
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5:38pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Conny where are you?????
Bloody hell Bob, you're pining for him now! Are you love struck?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Conny where are you?????[/p][/quote]Bloody hell Bob, you're pining for him now! Are you love struck? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:39pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS.

Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever.

Saints fans will be COYR
Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS. Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever. Saints fans will be COYR Baddesley Bill
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5:45pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Ultimately I judge people on results not emotion .........As far as Nicola is concerned ,so far , so good !
Ultimately I judge people on results not emotion .........As far as Nicola is concerned ,so far , so good ! slugger
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5:49pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

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Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever.

Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general.

Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.
I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC.

I know FB better and have heard his side of that story.

There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come.

As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do.
I would agree with that.

As Baddesley Bill said, most of us have questioned what he has done and will continue to question what he does in the future.

I would like to see a reconcillation take place but I also think however the ex player/manager thing is a red herring. There are two sides and this is not representative of the complete truth about how ex players/managers/his
tory are treated as some make out.

While I am happy to give NC credit unless something gives rise to question, the suggestion you made before about keeping an eye on the financial side going forwards you made previously was also not a bad one.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.[/p][/quote]Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever. Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general. Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.[/p][/quote]I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC. I know FB better and have heard his side of that story. There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come. As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do.[/p][/quote]I would agree with that. As Baddesley Bill said, most of us have questioned what he has done and will continue to question what he does in the future. I would like to see a reconcillation take place but I also think however the ex player/manager thing is a red herring. There are two sides and this is not representative of the complete truth about how ex players/managers/his tory are treated as some make out. While I am happy to give NC credit unless something gives rise to question, the suggestion you made before about keeping an eye on the financial side going forwards you made previously was also not a bad one. Thornhill Saint
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5:50pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !! slugger
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5:51pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Volenti says...

I've been reading these threads with much interest. As a Saints fan I thought I'd register for the new season. I have watched the last two pre season games on line and I'm concerned on two fronts. Firstly it appears that VW is overweight and lazy. I'm concerned he hasn't really impressed so far. Secondly Lallana appears to have picked up where he has left off last season wholly ineffective! Have the Saints wasted another 12 million as they did on Ramirez?
I've been reading these threads with much interest. As a Saints fan I thought I'd register for the new season. I have watched the last two pre season games on line and I'm concerned on two fronts. Firstly it appears that VW is overweight and lazy. I'm concerned he hasn't really impressed so far. Secondly Lallana appears to have picked up where he has left off last season wholly ineffective! Have the Saints wasted another 12 million as they did on Ramirez? Volenti
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5:53pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:59pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS.

Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever.

Saints fans will be COYR
Agree to disagree... How very saintly!
I could do that.
Coyr
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS. Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever. Saints fans will be COYR[/p][/quote]Agree to disagree... How very saintly! I could do that. Coyr ghk230473
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6:02pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O) Baddesley Bill
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6:03pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS.

Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever.

Saints fans will be COYR
Agree to disagree... How very saintly!
I could do that.
Coyr
Me too.

COYS!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Good debate...despite differing views (Seedhouse has obviously opened his treasured bottle of Chateau White Lightning 1984), let's all agree to give our Club our full support at SMS. Whether for or against NC, he will not be around for ever. Saints fans will be COYR[/p][/quote]Agree to disagree... How very saintly! I could do that. Coyr[/p][/quote]Me too. COYS! Thornhill Saint
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6:07pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money. Thornhill Saint
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6:09pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry . slugger
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6:10pm Sun 28 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
Here! Here!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]Here! Here! DisplacedFan
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6:13pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
Exactly .... imo .
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]Exactly .... imo . slugger
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6:25pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Confucious says...

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .
No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not?

I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got."

Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg."

Never! - that was you?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .[/p][/quote]No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not? I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got." Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg." Never! - that was you? Confucious
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6:34pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Confucious wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .
No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not?

I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got."

Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg."

Never! - that was you?
Regretably...that was him.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .[/p][/quote]No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not? I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got." Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg." Never! - that was you?[/p][/quote]Regretably...that was him. Baddesley Bill
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6:43pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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6:47pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Dave Juson says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

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Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life.

NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point.

MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there.

As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR
Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times!

If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back!

The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.
Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever.

Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general.

Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.
I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC.

I know FB better and have heard his side of that story.

There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come.

As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do.
I would agree with that.

As Baddesley Bill said, most of us have questioned what he has done and will continue to question what he does in the future.

I would like to see a reconcillation take place but I also think however the ex player/manager thing is a red herring. There are two sides and this is not representative of the complete truth about how ex players/managers/his

tory are treated as some make out.

While I am happy to give NC credit unless something gives rise to question, the suggestion you made before about keeping an eye on the financial side going forwards you made previously was also not a bad one.
Nicola Cortese took control of Southampton after seven or eight years of particularly nasty infighting, which was what lead the Club to be in the grim situation in which he found it.
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Now, I know nothing about the inner workings of Nicola’s mind, other than he doesn’t appear to have much time for idiots, but I think it safe to assume that he doesn’t want anything to do with the politics that did so much to damage the Club prior to his incumbency. Nor the people publically identified with it. It’s not a matter of right or wrong, it is a matter pragmatism.
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And, let’s face it, Nicola did point out soon after taking over at St Mary’s that he felt former directors – and if my memory serves me correctly it was Leon Crouch and Lawrie McMenemy who were being discussed – were hardly in a position to offer him advice. Well intentioned or not.
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Ditto the Echo, which, when it comes to things Saintly, frequently couples abysmal commentary with an unseemly readiness to stir anything it can pass off as ordure.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.[/p][/quote]Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag. On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future. On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks. Still, I guess we can't have everything.[/p][/quote]Good Morning Confucious, Did you see what we did there?? We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything. Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.[/p][/quote]Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bob - just a slip there.[/p][/quote]It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine. Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.[/p][/quote]Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings. Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.[/p][/quote]MLT earned enough to buy season tickets for life. NC and ML both paid for their own season tickets to set a principle and make the point. MLT basks in the adulation of us fans...and rightly so. I see no issues there. As for the sacking of managers, I have always craved stability...but it seems to be the new face of football...I don't necessarily like it...but if (as proven thus far) we progress, I will put up with it COYR[/p][/quote]Bill not only do you drink like a girl you do talk nonsense at times! If the 'hardnosed' approach is the only one then MLT should have moved from his maximum £4k a week at Saints to Chelsea and trebled it or more. We crave loyalty from our players so maybe a payback is sometimes in order. I think the 'free tickets' issue is a red herring, it's more about being welcome at the club at any time. Lawrie Mac told me that when MLT was a guest in a box a steward remained outside the box at all times and followed him to the loo and back! The sacking of managers is a moot point. Our heyday was under LM who was a long serving manager same with Clough at Forest. More recently Wenger, Ferguson and Moyes have show the benefits of stability. NC does seem to have got it right on each occasion and fair play to him, however, Pardew and Adkins were his appointments.[/p][/quote]Both Pardew and Adkins did a job. Nothing lasts for ever. Matt Le Tiss mentioned the steward thingh on twitter. There is not very nice history on both sides (MLT, LMcM and FB) and I don't think it can be used as a yardstick on how NC treats previous players/managers in general. Maybe your friendship with LMcM has coloured your view a bit but that is understandable.[/p][/quote]I'm not mates with LM, I've met him a few times as many of us have. I took a box at The Ageas Bowl for the ODI, he was in the adjacent box and we had a long chat. He's getting on now but he will always be my hero as he was manager when I first started going to the Dell in 77/78 season and we had some great times which look like they might finally be returning and that's down to NC. I know FB better and have heard his side of that story. There is no doubt that NC has been the best thing to happen to our club for many a long year and lets all hope it continues for years to come. As I've said before, and it's not being negative, it's totally appropriate to keep an open mind without becoming polarised as so many seem to do.[/p][/quote]I would agree with that. As Baddesley Bill said, most of us have questioned what he has done and will continue to question what he does in the future. I would like to see a reconcillation take place but I also think however the ex player/manager thing is a red herring. There are two sides and this is not representative of the complete truth about how ex players/managers/his tory are treated as some make out. While I am happy to give NC credit unless something gives rise to question, the suggestion you made before about keeping an eye on the financial side going forwards you made previously was also not a bad one.[/p][/quote]Nicola Cortese took control of Southampton after seven or eight years of particularly nasty infighting, which was what lead the Club to be in the grim situation in which he found it. . Now, I know nothing about the inner workings of Nicola’s mind, other than he doesn’t appear to have much time for idiots, but I think it safe to assume that he doesn’t want anything to do with the politics that did so much to damage the Club prior to his incumbency. Nor the people publically identified with it. It’s not a matter of right or wrong, it is a matter pragmatism. . And, let’s face it, Nicola did point out soon after taking over at St Mary’s that he felt former directors – and if my memory serves me correctly it was Leon Crouch and Lawrie McMenemy who were being discussed – were hardly in a position to offer him advice. Well intentioned or not. . Ditto the Echo, which, when it comes to things Saintly, frequently couples abysmal commentary with an unseemly readiness to stir anything it can pass off as ordure. Dave Juson
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6:47pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
I'll let you know when and if it happens ...... perhaps I'm not as good as I think I am ?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]I'll let you know when and if it happens ...... perhaps I'm not as good as I think I am ? slugger
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6:50pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Confucious wrote:
slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .
No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not?

I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got."

Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg."

Never! - that was you?
Regretably...that was him.
It was not ..... just to add , I resigned , I was not sacked .
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Not unbroken , don't forget that year in 89 when I was part of the adult movie industry .[/p][/quote]No! We're you the one in "Slugger and the Slapper"? Surely not? I remember my Auntie Elspeth came in while I was sneakily watching it and she said: "Yuk my boy - what a horrible thin, pale, knobbly, varicose veiny member that awful man's got." Auntie Elspeth used to be a matron and she said that they always used to call a willy like that "the pensioner's leg." Never! - that was you?[/p][/quote]Regretably...that was him.[/p][/quote]It was not ..... just to add , I resigned , I was not sacked . slugger
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6:52pm Sun 28 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days. st1halo
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6:53pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Hey Bruv ... Who could ever forget the "Hotel Eric" Finsbury park ? ... happy days .
Hey Bruv ... Who could ever forget the "Hotel Eric" Finsbury park ? ... happy days . slugger
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7:20pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues. Thornhill Saint
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7:23pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

There are also other areas where they could and do network, and not just with ex saints.
There are also other areas where they could and do network, and not just with ex saints. Thornhill Saint
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7:23pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:24pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good. Baddesley Bill
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7:29pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

slugger wrote:
Hey Bruv ... Who could ever forget the "Hotel Eric" Finsbury park ? ... happy days .
I am still trying to erase the Hotel Eric from my memory.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Hey Bruv ... Who could ever forget the "Hotel Eric" Finsbury park ? ... happy days .[/p][/quote]I am still trying to erase the Hotel Eric from my memory. Baddesley Bill
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7:31pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
There are also other areas where they could and do network, and not just with ex saints.
That's an area that the club could definitely improve on. The corporate circle in Southampton isn't that big and getting involved by attending certain business/charity events and promoting the club could lead to a bigger uptake of boxes and sponsorship, surely a good thing?

I occasionally get invited into corporate at away games and many clubs seem to have a much bigger corporate section than we do. Many of our box holders are wealthy Saints fans rather than national businesses entertaining customers from the away city. The likes of B&Q should have a box.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: There are also other areas where they could and do network, and not just with ex saints.[/p][/quote]That's an area that the club could definitely improve on. The corporate circle in Southampton isn't that big and getting involved by attending certain business/charity events and promoting the club could lead to a bigger uptake of boxes and sponsorship, surely a good thing? I occasionally get invited into corporate at away games and many clubs seem to have a much bigger corporate section than we do. Many of our box holders are wealthy Saints fans rather than national businesses entertaining customers from the away city. The likes of B&Q should have a box. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:34pm Sun 28 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

As Seed has pointed out, le tiss was extremely loyal to us, yes to a certain extent it suited him, but lesser players would and did move on.
Manure for 1 know how to reward such loyalty, Robert Charlton is on the board of directors.
As Seed has pointed out, le tiss was extremely loyal to us, yes to a certain extent it suited him, but lesser players would and did move on. Manure for 1 know how to reward such loyalty, Robert Charlton is on the board of directors. ghk230473
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7:36pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made. Thornhill Saint
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7:37pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok .
Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok . slugger
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7:42pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more.

My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man.

Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.[/p][/quote]MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more. My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man. Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:46pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more.

My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man.

Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.
Agreed !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.[/p][/quote]MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more. My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man. Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.[/p][/quote]Agreed ! slugger
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7:48pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime.

This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it.

Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't.

...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.[/p][/quote]This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime. This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it. Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't. ...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it. Baddesley Bill
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7:52pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok .
Slugger we are doing more than ok. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question things, particularly financially. We are both well aware of another club whose fans lapped it all up and stuck their heads in the sand and now are paying the price. Our circumstances are very different to theirs but I hope you get my point.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok .[/p][/quote]Slugger we are doing more than ok. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question things, particularly financially. We are both well aware of another club whose fans lapped it all up and stuck their heads in the sand and now are paying the price. Our circumstances are very different to theirs but I hope you get my point. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:52pm Sun 28 Jul 13

MGRA says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime.

This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it.

Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't.

...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.
Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.[/p][/quote]This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime. This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it. Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't. ...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.[/p][/quote]Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground. MGRA
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7:57pm Sun 28 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime.

This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it.

Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't.

...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.
Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground.
I agree. In my humble opinion NC is making us a 21st Century Football Club & business.

I hope MLT (my number one player ever before any accuses me of not appreciating him) will conduct himself better in terms of not washing dirty linen in public.

COYR!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.[/p][/quote]This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime. This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it. Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't. ...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.[/p][/quote]Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground.[/p][/quote]I agree. In my humble opinion NC is making us a 21st Century Football Club & business. I hope MLT (my number one player ever before any accuses me of not appreciating him) will conduct himself better in terms of not washing dirty linen in public. COYR! TPFKARTSNINZ
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7:58pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more.

My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man.

Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.
It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home.

Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.[/p][/quote]MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more. My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man. Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.[/p][/quote]It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home. Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen. Baddesley Bill
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8:01pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime.

This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it.

Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't.

...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.
Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.[/p][/quote]This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime. This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it. Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't. ...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Thornhill Saint
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8:04pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more.

My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man.

Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.
It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home.

Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen.
Or two adults could shake hands, draw a line and move on like men.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.[/p][/quote]MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more. My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man. Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.[/p][/quote]It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home. Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen.[/p][/quote]Or two adults could shake hands, draw a line and move on like men. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:04pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset.

No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made.

Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself.

I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension.
It says this is where we are and this is how we got here.


STID
Excellent and well balanced post.

No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing.

How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.
You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things.

A museum would be better, might even make some money.
I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable.


I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.
I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends"

Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability.

Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards.

Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see.

For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.
Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.
I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.
This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime.

This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it.

Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't.

...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.
Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground.
Good Post.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Cortese isn't running a football club, he is running a business and building it into an asset. No club in the history of football has ever got every signing correct and mistakes will always be made. Stability can be of benefit but not when it's contrary to the direction and success of the club itself. I see no reason why long standing, loyal players cannot be rewaded for their service to the club. It has nothing to do with money. Criteria could be set for goals, 1st team performances, length of service, trophies or whatever and lifetime membership could be offered. It actually shows that, as a club we are NOT fickle and don't forget the contribution once left. It can only be good for players and fans alike, old and new, It bonds our present and our past. They are not ex-staff and can't be treated as such as they have comparitively very short contracts and no pension. It says this is where we are and this is how we got here. STID[/p][/quote]Excellent and well balanced post. No one wants to get stuck in the past (well, not this end of the M27), the future is all important but keeping a respect for the past is no bad thing. How about a Patrons Club? Invitation only and few in number. The likes of Channon, Paine, Lawrie Mac and MLT would be members as would the late Ball, Bates and Osgood were they still with us. They could organise a little fund raising for those ex players in need - not the multi millionnaires but the likes of Ron Davies who appears to have ended his life in unfortunate circumstances.[/p][/quote]You don't need to give individuals privilges to respect the past. Two entirely different things. A museum would be better, might even make some money.[/p][/quote]I don't see it as priveleges, I see it as a courtesy. And from a business sense, it is always good to network. Who knows what connections ex-players and managers may have to offer and the opportunity for some to mingle with big names of the past could be profitable. I like the idea of a Patrons Club, Seed. Who knows? it may even inspire loyalty and there isn't much of that in football these days.[/p][/quote]I disagree it sounds medieval and would be open to abuse and "friends" Also as well as loyalty it could in ire jealousy, bickering and instability. Giving courtesy/privileges to past players and managers did nor work in the past and it won't work going forwards. Would these ex players who don't need the freebies rather have a free ticket and bottle of bubbly with a few or see their name and contribution honoured and up there with other greats for all to see. For those that need a hand like Ron Davies there are other avenues.[/p][/quote]Whatever those other avenues are they didn't appear, at least on face value, to work for Big Ron.[/p][/quote]I agree with you on that. Support for players leaving the game is there. It doesn't mean lessons should not be learned from Ron Davies situation and improvements made.[/p][/quote]This is the modern era...most PL players make enough to secure an income for a lifetime. This debate is not about players that have fallen on hard times...this is about NC setting a rule in place from day one and sticking to it. Personally, I think we'd all love to see MLT be involved in some manner. But the real issue is, the guy who played a huge part of keeping our Club alive doesn't. ...what is not up for debate, is the fact that he is running the trainset....and from the view I have, he isn't making such a bad job of it.[/p][/quote]Nicola has embraced one very important fact.... successful football clubs in England are not about large stadia and huge crowds. Not any more. Its not about "loyalty" and its not about "stability". Its about managed risk and development within reasonable investments. Saints are riding the wave of very clever business strategy, but its not all straight forward and there will always be risks. MLT was and always will be at odds with the "new" way off 1st class football. I can see both sides. And no one is wrong. Sometimes there is no middle ground.[/p][/quote]Good Post. Thornhill Saint
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8:06pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

When I was working I was fortunate enough to go to many grounds on corporate hospitality packages I was often entertained pre and post match by ex players
It would have been good if MLT FB LMc and afew others could have worked for their perks in this way
When I was working I was fortunate enough to go to many grounds on corporate hospitality packages I was often entertained pre and post match by ex players It would have been good if MLT FB LMc and afew others could have worked for their perks in this way Saintsayer II
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8:08pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
slugger wrote:
Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !!
Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me...

You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team?

..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire?

Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)
Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him?

You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.
MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time).

Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable.

My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue.

I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.
MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more.

My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man.

Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.
It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home.

Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen.
Or two adults could shake hands, draw a line and move on like men.
Le Tiss and NC almost made it together earlier this year. It may happen one day. It would be a good thing if it did.

If Dodd, Paine and Jaihdi have roles at the club, I can't see why there can't be one for Matt if the differences could be resolved.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Being a bit of and old socialist I think it's high time MLT and the rest of our better off fans actually paid more than us paupers ......... Means tested tickets is the way forward ...... COYR !![/p][/quote]Rubbish...you're loaded. Which reminds me... You've been quite loyal to your employer Slugger...35yrs near unbroken service with the A team? ..I trust you will be receiving free gas for life when you retire? Please don't tell me your CEO is trying to run a business and won't allow it...it won't wash with me the paying customer! ;O)[/p][/quote]Yes, but did Slugger knock back one of his employers rivals when offered three times the wages to leave? Did Slugger remain loyal when journeymen gas fitters were brought in on far more money than him? You constantly miss the point! And it's not about free tickets either.[/p][/quote]MLT knocked back the money because Saints were his team and it was convenient for his family (He said exactly that when attended a football forum with him at the time). Great attributes...and he is a legend because of it...that is indisputable. My point is that this does not make him a spokesman for our Club now....perhaps that is the issue. I'm struggling to understand your point...some clarity would be good.[/p][/quote]MLT turned down the opportunity to move to a London club on far more money. It's just as easy to fly to Guernsey from London as it is from Southampton and will take maybe 20 minutes more. My point is Matt made a decision to remain a one club man which is very rare, particularly when that club isn't Man U or similar. Consequently it would be rather nice if he was welcome at the club rather than be escorted to the loo and back. Nothing to do with being a spokesman, that's a job for a salaried PR man. Someone needs to get Matt and NC in a room and bang their heads together.[/p][/quote]It was Chelsea who offered him the contract...all I am saying is that at the time (Carling PL Football Forum 1990-something), MLT said he had knocked back offers because he was 100% happy and could just hop on a plane at Southampton airport to get home. Agreed...they should to get it together..but I think you know and I know that is never going to come off. One would have to take the lower ground to make it happen.[/p][/quote]Or two adults could shake hands, draw a line and move on like men.[/p][/quote]Le Tiss and NC almost made it together earlier this year. It may happen one day. It would be a good thing if it did. If Dodd, Paine and Jaihdi have roles at the club, I can't see why there can't be one for Matt if the differences could be resolved. Thornhill Saint
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8:09pm Sun 28 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok .
Slugger we are doing more than ok. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question things, particularly financially. We are both well aware of another club whose fans lapped it all up and stuck their heads in the sand and now are paying the price. Our circumstances are very different to theirs but I hope you get my point.
I understand 100% , It seems like a battle of wills' and we both know who's in the driving seat ...... I think it's sad but not the end of the world .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Reckon I'll leave it to the experts to run and manage SFC ....... what do I know ? ..... We seem to be doing ok .[/p][/quote]Slugger we are doing more than ok. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question things, particularly financially. We are both well aware of another club whose fans lapped it all up and stuck their heads in the sand and now are paying the price. Our circumstances are very different to theirs but I hope you get my point.[/p][/quote]I understand 100% , It seems like a battle of wills' and we both know who's in the driving seat ...... I think it's sad but not the end of the world . slugger
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8:12pm Sun 28 Jul 13

saintbobby says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club.

If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action.

Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future.

The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago!
Spot on, Bill.

Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way.

Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt.

If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.
If he don't bring out a new shirt with STRIPES IN RED AND WHITE ON IT., I WILL HELP CARRY THE BANNER!!!
I agree with Bob. Something about our name gives us that extra intelligence. Stripes for ever. Bob, like Cass we are the greatest!!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a CEO directs the overall running of a company...whether it be a Bank or a football club. If he feels that the business is not keeping up with his expectations, he takes the appropriate action. Fair to say that I have questioned NC's decisions in the past....and will almost certainly question them in the future. The fact remains that he seems to be steering the ship in the right direction...and getting their faster than most of us ever anticpated 4yrs ago![/p][/quote]Spot on, Bill. Mind you, I hate every minute of it. When we were in L2, it was easy to get tickets and I expected us to thrash a few teams along the way. Since that bl00dy banker took over, I've had to miss out on going to Wembley, sit with the Toon, run to the shop and back to avoid paying a quid to park, bite my nails watching us draw at Chelsea on a cr4p internet feed and buy a tin of white paint so as to improve the new shirt. If he carries on like this, when we play our first Champions League match, I'm going to bring a CORTESE OUT banner.[/p][/quote]If he don't bring out a new shirt with STRIPES IN RED AND WHITE ON IT., I WILL HELP CARRY THE BANNER!!![/p][/quote]I agree with Bob. Something about our name gives us that extra intelligence. Stripes for ever. Bob, like Cass we are the greatest!! saintbobby
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8:14pm Sun 28 Jul 13

swesaint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Confucious wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.
Is this the one to which you refer?

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Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.
Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.
Thank you for thanking me.
The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked.
We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity.
And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?
I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine.

I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today.

In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about.

Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly rewarded I'm sure. As fans we should be cautious as things can quickly change.
Cortese has certainly been a mixed bag.

On the plus side he sparked Marcus's interest in buying the club out of its debts; arranged the deal; agreed to Marcus's request that he move here and run it; got us promoted from Div 1 to the Prem in successive seasons; kept us in the Prem; kept most of our best young players and signed some great new ones; invested heavily in our infrastucture including state-of-the-art training facilities; made some unpopular but, what proved to be, very astute managerial changes - and filled almost every supporter with excitement and optimism for our club's future.

On the other hand he has made LeTiss and a few other multi-millionaires pay to get into matches just like the rest of us - and has an irritating habit sometimes of tapping his fingers on tables and desks.

Still, I guess we can't have everything.
Good Morning Confucious,
Did you see what we did there??
We sort of agree with each other but, like you say we cant have everything.
Le Tis and the other great players of our club were well paid for what did and so if the Chairman has to pay for his ticket so should everyone else.
Spot on as usual Bob. Next thing is, they'll be wanting one of those brilliant new shirts for free.
Sorry Bob - just a slip there.
It's ok conny, you wear your shirt and I will wear mine.
Going away to WBA game, do you or anybody else have any parking sites near the stadium they could share with a O A P.
Ok then guys, in the interview cortèse is quoted as saying ' I like to sack a manager before it has to come to losing 5 games in a row' (or words to close that). Where does he qualify to make those decisions? Lowe was the same and even signed players! I believe in stability, players cost a lot, when you bring new managers in they have their own opinion on players and normally ensues an influx of new players. We've done it, seen it and wasted money on it in the past. We have under cortèse reign already more than a few wasted signings.

Also to note, le tiss had definately earnt a lifetime of free season tickets for sure. He has to be in the top 3 of past greats, I would put him top with Paine and channon fighting for 2nd and 3rd.
So is that the qualifying criteria for lifetime free ticket, too be n your personal top 3 saints players list.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone have a link to the latest NC interview? I missed it yesterday and can only track down his one back in January.[/p][/quote]Is this the one to which you refer? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html Interesting stuff, but a tad terse.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have read that one. I believe he did a televised interview with Sky. The last one is on the Sky website and youtube but not the new one.[/p][/quote]Thank you for thanking me. The only thing I found on the Sky website quoted the Mail interview hyperlinked. We could do with a proper, professional interview with Nicola Cortese. The sound bites intrigue but never sate one's curiosity. And, without going out of his way to do so, he appears to upset the exact same people who so vehemently opposed Rupert Lowe. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]I think the problem is football is now a money making business machine. I don't like a lot of what cortèse has done but you need his type to deal with the agents and other matters that come with football today. In my opinion he's too black or white, no grey areas. Le tiss and benali are our past, loyal players. Some one IMO like le tiss should be afforded certain comforts from the club, do we really have to wait till their past away to remember them? He sometime could be a lazy bugger at times but he also gave memories that no one will forget and that is what football is about. Remember cortèse hasn't put a penny into the club but is getting richly reward