Saints closing in on top flight record

Daily Echo: Mauricio Pochettino Mauricio Pochettino

Saints are just one clean sheet away from equalling their best ever defensive start to the season – the year they finished second in the top flight.

Mauricio Pochettino’s men have conceded just two goals in their opening six top flight matches.

The last time they managed to go seven league games with just two in the against column was back in 1983/84 when the club achieved their best ever top flight finish of second, just three points behind champions Liverpool.

To equal that remarkable post-war record Saints will need to perform another shut out against Swansea at St Mary’s this weekend.

Pochettino is confident in his side and their ability to keep the run going.

He said: “I can’t speak for the period before I was here but from the moment I arrived we were one of the teams that conceded the least goals.

“This is my first season with the team starting with an actual pre-season with the team.

“We have changed and signed some new players.

“We are reaping the benefits of our work and our belief in how we want to play.

“We just want to keep working in this way, keep our good run and keep on this way.”

The only teams to have scored against Saints this season are Sunderland and Norwich, with blanks recorded against West Brom, West Ham, Liverpool and Crystal Palace.

Back in 1983/84 the team, under the leadership of Lawrie McMenemy, started the season with a hat-trick of clean sheets against Nottingham Forest, QPR and Arsenal before a 1-1 draw with Liverpool.

They followed that up with 2-0 and 3-0 wins over Sunderland and Manchester United respectively before losing 1-0 at Aston Villa.

Pochettino has made no secret over the formula for Saints’ success so far this season, which sees them riding high in the early season table.

He explained: “Our set-up is very clear – we want to defend keeping possession of the ball.

“We want to be as effective on the attack, to be as far away from our end of the pitch as possible.

“That’s how we want to play, that’s how we’re playing and we’re pleased with how we’re playing.

“We also know we are running a certain risk when we play that way because we might be giving the ball away but it’s our philosophy, it’s how we want to play and we want to believe we can play and succeed in playing that way.”

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7:57am Tue 1 Oct 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It's going to take a good goal to breach our defence. Who would have thought it a year ago! 2-0 again Sunday, same scorers.
It's going to take a good goal to breach our defence. Who would have thought it a year ago! 2-0 again Sunday, same scorers. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 15

8:26am Tue 1 Oct 13

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

We are due to give someone a spanking, but I don't think it will be Swansea, they look took good at the moment
But Moan Utd ...... they look ripe for a pummeling
We are due to give someone a spanking, but I don't think it will be Swansea, they look took good at the moment But Moan Utd ...... they look ripe for a pummeling There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 27

8:56am Tue 1 Oct 13

terrence77 says...

Its good to see Southampton 5th in the EPL , Take that pub United !!
Its good to see Southampton 5th in the EPL , Take that pub United !! terrence77
  • Score: 9

9:10am Tue 1 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual.
6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 8

9:24am Tue 1 Oct 13

Malcombe says...

There is no doubt M Ps plan is working, most if not all the Managers in the Premiership are talking about Southampton and they know they have got to try and stop this exciting style of Football Saints play, Southampton Players need to be exceptionally fit to keep playing each game at this high tempo particularly if the opposition get a quick counter attack, the position Saints are in the League also has an affect on the opposition, I think this is Saints year, it would make all Saints Supporters all over world very happy if Saints finish in the top 4 and win a Cup, sorry folks I got carried away dreaming!!
There is no doubt M Ps plan is working, most if not all the Managers in the Premiership are talking about Southampton and they know they have got to try and stop this exciting style of Football Saints play, Southampton Players need to be exceptionally fit to keep playing each game at this high tempo particularly if the opposition get a quick counter attack, the position Saints are in the League also has an affect on the opposition, I think this is Saints year, it would make all Saints Supporters all over world very happy if Saints finish in the top 4 and win a Cup, sorry folks I got carried away dreaming!! Malcombe
  • Score: 23

9:30am Tue 1 Oct 13

SaintMax says...

Our defence and middle two midfield pairing must be pretty much the envy of 95% of the rest of the league. Imagine how much this stability and confidence will improve the young Shaw and Clyne too, not to mention Fonte.
Lovren and Wanyama are inspired signings and made us a toit as a very toit toiger.
Our defence and middle two midfield pairing must be pretty much the envy of 95% of the rest of the league. Imagine how much this stability and confidence will improve the young Shaw and Clyne too, not to mention Fonte. Lovren and Wanyama are inspired signings and made us a toit as a very toit toiger. SaintMax
  • Score: 7

9:30am Tue 1 Oct 13

Puddletown Saint says...

Can see the Cups as a real dream. Following Saints is a real rollercoaster Hopefully more up than downs this season COYR
Can see the Cups as a real dream. Following Saints is a real rollercoaster Hopefully more up than downs this season COYR Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 8

9:33am Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good. St Retford
  • Score: -9

9:48am Tue 1 Oct 13

murfmeister says...

a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again
a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again murfmeister
  • Score: 5

9:49am Tue 1 Oct 13

Confucious says...

Forwards, forwards, forwards - everything's been forwards for four seasons on the trot. They've even painted over "Yorlik was here" - my old Lowe era graffiti on the Kingsland toilet wall.
Forwards, forwards, forwards - everything's been forwards for four seasons on the trot. They've even painted over "Yorlik was here" - my old Lowe era graffiti on the Kingsland toilet wall. Confucious
  • Score: 3

9:55am Tue 1 Oct 13

Licky_Rambert says...

i'm chuffed at how well Fonte's doing this season. he was a hero in league one, seemed to struggle a bit in the championship but this season he's playing awesome!
and he's already got his customary last minute winning/equalising header. i'll never forget that day in Brighton!!
i'm chuffed at how well Fonte's doing this season. he was a hero in league one, seemed to struggle a bit in the championship but this season he's playing awesome! and he's already got his customary last minute winning/equalising header. i'll never forget that day in Brighton!! Licky_Rambert
  • Score: 30

10:08am Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

murfmeister wrote:
a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again
We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job.

I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again[/p][/quote]We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job. I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious. St Retford
  • Score: 10

10:37am Tue 1 Oct 13

Mush On The Beach says...

St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 12

10:51am Tue 1 Oct 13

Confucious says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity. Confucious
  • Score: 3

10:53am Tue 1 Oct 13

insane saint says...

St Retford wrote:
murfmeister wrote:
a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again
We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job.

I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious.
but the last time a utd manager was in this poss fergie was in the last chance saloon and the beat us then fergie went on for a long time we can not have this happen again. beat utd away that's all i will say.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again[/p][/quote]We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job. I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious.[/p][/quote]but the last time a utd manager was in this poss fergie was in the last chance saloon and the beat us then fergie went on for a long time we can not have this happen again. beat utd away that's all i will say. insane saint
  • Score: 2

10:58am Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
That's what I mean: the fitness levels and the intensity that this team plays with means they would have won the league by about 30 points back then. But I'm just making the point that sometimes you can be stood on solid gold and it's worth appreciating it. We have the greatest Saints squad ever assembled and it's only going to get better.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]That's what I mean: the fitness levels and the intensity that this team plays with means they would have won the league by about 30 points back then. But I'm just making the point that sometimes you can be stood on solid gold and it's worth appreciating it. We have the greatest Saints squad ever assembled and it's only going to get better. St Retford
  • Score: 2

11:04am Tue 1 Oct 13

warrens 76 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake.. warrens 76
  • Score: 9

11:05am Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

insane saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
murfmeister wrote:
a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again
We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job.

I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious.
but the last time a utd manager was in this poss fergie was in the last chance saloon and the beat us then fergie went on for a long time we can not have this happen again. beat utd away that's all i will say.
I was only kidding. I hope we absolutely batter them and every single United fan around the world cries salt tears because they realise they've foolishly abandoned the chance to support their local side in favour of the reflected glory of a team who have now turned sh1te.

The empire is crumbling to dust, as all empires surely must...
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: a win away at old trafford could end Moyes tenure! They wont tolerate it again[/p][/quote]We need to be careful with that - last time we got one of their managers sacked it gave Fergie a job. I think we might need to keep Moyes their for a little longer. He's hilarious.[/p][/quote]but the last time a utd manager was in this poss fergie was in the last chance saloon and the beat us then fergie went on for a long time we can not have this happen again. beat utd away that's all i will say.[/p][/quote]I was only kidding. I hope we absolutely batter them and every single United fan around the world cries salt tears because they realise they've foolishly abandoned the chance to support their local side in favour of the reflected glory of a team who have now turned sh1te. The empire is crumbling to dust, as all empires surely must... St Retford
  • Score: 11

11:28am Tue 1 Oct 13

SaintMax says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another. SaintMax
  • Score: 5

11:41am Tue 1 Oct 13

Mush On The Beach says...

SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
I have considered those names listed by Warrens and I agree it was a great team. My point for Retford is that it is hard to compare teams from different eras as like for like. I believe good players from any era would be able to adapt to the conditions of the present.
Though I don’t think the likes of Ball, Channon, Shilton and Worthington would come to terms with not being able to pop into Milton Rd Ladbrokes at 2.30 with their footy boots on to have a punt on the 2.45 at Kempton Park.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]I have considered those names listed by Warrens and I agree it was a great team. My point for Retford is that it is hard to compare teams from different eras as like for like. I believe good players from any era would be able to adapt to the conditions of the present. Though I don’t think the likes of Ball, Channon, Shilton and Worthington would come to terms with not being able to pop into Milton Rd Ladbrokes at 2.30 with their footy boots on to have a punt on the 2.45 at Kempton Park. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

11:43am Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.) St Retford
  • Score: 1

11:46am Tue 1 Oct 13

Mush On The Beach says...

Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
And Rufus Stone would never have performed Minnie The Moocher on a Saturday Night.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.[/p][/quote]And Rufus Stone would never have performed Minnie The Moocher on a Saturday Night. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 0

11:57am Tue 1 Oct 13

Confucious says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
You filthy swine, you've put me right off my lunch.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]You filthy swine, you've put me right off my lunch. Confucious
  • Score: 3

12:12pm Tue 1 Oct 13

localnews says...

St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end localnews
  • Score: 18

12:33pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Dave Juson says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
And Rufus Stone would never have performed Minnie The Moocher on a Saturday Night.
If you bohered to research these things properly you'd know it was the Law of Levity. Gravitas has no place in these exchanges.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.[/p][/quote]And Rufus Stone would never have performed Minnie The Moocher on a Saturday Night.[/p][/quote]If you bohered to research these things properly you'd know it was the Law of Levity. Gravitas has no place in these exchanges. Dave Juson
  • Score: 1

12:39pm Tue 1 Oct 13

SaintMax says...

localnews wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end
I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?
[quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end[/p][/quote]I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat? SaintMax
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Tue 1 Oct 13

DisplacedFan says...

SaintMax wrote:
localnews wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end
I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?
That takes scoring to a whole new low level!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end[/p][/quote]I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?[/p][/quote]That takes scoring to a whole new low level! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

12:55pm Tue 1 Oct 13

markodarko29 says...

SaintMax wrote:
localnews wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end
I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?
cant agree with you on worthington ,the odd nice touch but couldnt run ,he was well in his 30s when we signed him ,wouldnt put him in the category of saints legends like channon ,keegan ,williams, wright, ball etc,he had his best days when he played for leicester and bolton,dont remember him scoring to many times for saints but he was in the team that finished second in the league
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end[/p][/quote]I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?[/p][/quote]cant agree with you on worthington ,the odd nice touch but couldnt run ,he was well in his 30s when we signed him ,wouldnt put him in the category of saints legends like channon ,keegan ,williams, wright, ball etc,he had his best days when he played for leicester and bolton,dont remember him scoring to many times for saints but he was in the team that finished second in the league markodarko29
  • Score: 3

1:10pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Beer Monster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual.
Dave Merrington "What we don't want now is Lawro to predict us to win"
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual.[/p][/quote]Dave Merrington "What we don't want now is Lawro to predict us to win" Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Tue 1 Oct 13

St Mark says...

Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
Was that the same apple that William Tell split in two before he invented Switzerland and cuckoo clocks, which of course work on gravitational pull (the clocks, not Switzerland)? There are some amazing coincidences here aren't there?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.[/p][/quote]Was that the same apple that William Tell split in two before he invented Switzerland and cuckoo clocks, which of course work on gravitational pull (the clocks, not Switzerland)? There are some amazing coincidences here aren't there? St Mark
  • Score: 0

1:36pm Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

SaintMax wrote:
localnews wrote:
St Retford wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife.
We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.
Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations.

For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open?

(I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)
Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end
I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?
Ah, but it's not just 'the' 99 fittest birds ever - it's 'your' 99 fittest birds ever. You know, it includes that one you used to sit next to on the bus and never spoke to, or the one that worked in the next office along and left before you got to know her. It's not just a physical thing - it's basically undoing your regrets about people that entered and left your life too soon.

(And yes, I know Facebook exists for pretty much entirely this reason but still...)

I reckon I'd be tempted to try at least five. I wouldn't push it, mind - I can't imagine Westwood is a particularly sensitive lover.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]I agree Warrens, Keegan was double European player of the year, Alan Ball was a world cup medal winner, Peter Shilton won more caps than any other England player AND got caught in his car with a young girl that wasn't his wife. We do have the basis of an excellent side now, but you can not compare one historical team to another.[/p][/quote]Of course you can! In my experience, 90% of pub conversations that blokes have are based on hypothetical situations. For example, you're in a room with 100 doors coming off it. Behind 99 of them are the 99 fittest birds you've ever wanted to have a 'go' on in your entire life, and behind the other one is John Westwood. Now, if you open a door you're legally obliged to have 'relations' with the person behind it so my question to you all is how many doors do you open? (I'm taking this to Channel 4 as an idea for a game show, btw.)[/p][/quote]Ahhh....John Westwood,Living proof that at the end of every bell is a bell end[/p][/quote]I think if they are the 99 fittest birds EVER, I would be happy with opening just one and giving it my 2 minute all! I would be extremely unlucky for Westwood to be behind that first door - would he be wearing that waistcoat and tophat?[/p][/quote]Ah, but it's not just 'the' 99 fittest birds ever - it's 'your' 99 fittest birds ever. You know, it includes that one you used to sit next to on the bus and never spoke to, or the one that worked in the next office along and left before you got to know her. It's not just a physical thing - it's basically undoing your regrets about people that entered and left your life too soon. (And yes, I know Facebook exists for pretty much entirely this reason but still...) I reckon I'd be tempted to try at least five. I wouldn't push it, mind - I can't imagine Westwood is a particularly sensitive lover. St Retford
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Tony in Liberia says...

I was in Fridays, the disco not the restaurant, shows how old I am, went to the bar and realised Frank Worthington was on the barstool next to me with a beautiful blonde, a pint and a whiskey in front of him. I pointed out the rather obvious - "Frank, it's almost 2 in the morning, and we're playing tomorrow. We need you scoring, mate". "Tell you what", he said with a grin. "I'm going to do her twice tonight, and if I get one in the match we'll call it a hat-trick and you can buy the beers next week". I agreed, he scored in the game (I can't answer for how he did with the girl), but he wasn't there next week when I tried to pay my debt. Lucky, really, the bar steward could sure drink. God knows how he managed to keep playing until his 40's...

But he only scored 4 goals in 34 games for us, so not really the one who was going to tear up the league. And in any case, we had Steve Moran coming through, top scorer that season, who would have been a much better partner for Keegan had he stayed - but he didn't because he never stays anywhere, the t0ss5r.
I was in Fridays, the disco not the restaurant, shows how old I am, went to the bar and realised Frank Worthington was on the barstool next to me with a beautiful blonde, a pint and a whiskey in front of him. I pointed out the rather obvious - "Frank, it's almost 2 in the morning, and we're playing tomorrow. We need you scoring, mate". "Tell you what", he said with a grin. "I'm going to do her twice tonight, and if I get one in the match we'll call it a hat-trick and you can buy the beers next week". I agreed, he scored in the game (I can't answer for how he did with the girl), but he wasn't there next week when I tried to pay my debt. Lucky, really, the bar steward could sure drink. God knows how he managed to keep playing until his 40's... But he only scored 4 goals in 34 games for us, so not really the one who was going to tear up the league. And in any case, we had Steve Moran coming through, top scorer that season, who would have been a much better partner for Keegan had he stayed - but he didn't because he never stays anywhere, the t0ss5r. Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 5

2:43pm Tue 1 Oct 13

warrens 76 says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
I was in Fridays, the disco not the restaurant, shows how old I am, went to the bar and realised Frank Worthington was on the barstool next to me with a beautiful blonde, a pint and a whiskey in front of him. I pointed out the rather obvious - "Frank, it's almost 2 in the morning, and we're playing tomorrow. We need you scoring, mate". "Tell you what", he said with a grin. "I'm going to do her twice tonight, and if I get one in the match we'll call it a hat-trick and you can buy the beers next week". I agreed, he scored in the game (I can't answer for how he did with the girl), but he wasn't there next week when I tried to pay my debt. Lucky, really, the bar steward could sure drink. God knows how he managed to keep playing until his 40's...

But he only scored 4 goals in 34 games for us, so not really the one who was going to tear up the league. And in any case, we had Steve Moran coming through, top scorer that season, who would have been a much better partner for Keegan had he stayed - but he didn't because he never stays anywhere, the t0ss5r.
he wanted to come to us two seasons earlier...he like Sherringham was never fasr but his skill and ball control were exceptional and he used to place them pinhead for our strikers...

However his pulling was something else again.
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I was in Fridays, the disco not the restaurant, shows how old I am, went to the bar and realised Frank Worthington was on the barstool next to me with a beautiful blonde, a pint and a whiskey in front of him. I pointed out the rather obvious - "Frank, it's almost 2 in the morning, and we're playing tomorrow. We need you scoring, mate". "Tell you what", he said with a grin. "I'm going to do her twice tonight, and if I get one in the match we'll call it a hat-trick and you can buy the beers next week". I agreed, he scored in the game (I can't answer for how he did with the girl), but he wasn't there next week when I tried to pay my debt. Lucky, really, the bar steward could sure drink. God knows how he managed to keep playing until his 40's... But he only scored 4 goals in 34 games for us, so not really the one who was going to tear up the league. And in any case, we had Steve Moran coming through, top scorer that season, who would have been a much better partner for Keegan had he stayed - but he didn't because he never stays anywhere, the t0ss5r.[/p][/quote]he wanted to come to us two seasons earlier...he like Sherringham was never fasr but his skill and ball control were exceptional and he used to place them pinhead for our strikers... However his pulling was something else again. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Tue 1 Oct 13

IsayIsay says...

Qoute...............
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Saints closing in on top flight record


In your dreams !!!!!!
Qoute............... ......... Saints closing in on top flight record In your dreams !!!!!! IsayIsay
  • Score: -16

2:57pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Stnana says...

Foxy off to Bolton then ?
Foxy off to Bolton then ? Stnana
  • Score: 4

2:58pm Tue 1 Oct 13

J7junctionseven says...

Squeak, squeak went the jealous skunt.....
Squeak, squeak went the jealous skunt..... J7junctionseven
  • Score: 11

3:10pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Confucious says...

St Mark wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
Was that the same apple that William Tell split in two before he invented Switzerland and cuckoo clocks, which of course work on gravitational pull (the clocks, not Switzerland)? There are some amazing coincidences here aren't there?
That's the one. He came over here from Grindelwald and he was the one who decided (so they couldn't sneak up on normal people) to put a bell round the necks of all Poopey residents - a custom some of them still maintain to this day.

Unfortunately he went to America after five years and became one of their now much revered and celebrated earlier settlers. Strange that because I find that Americans today hardly ever pay their bills on time.
[quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.[/p][/quote]Was that the same apple that William Tell split in two before he invented Switzerland and cuckoo clocks, which of course work on gravitational pull (the clocks, not Switzerland)? There are some amazing coincidences here aren't there?[/p][/quote]That's the one. He came over here from Grindelwald and he was the one who decided (so they couldn't sneak up on normal people) to put a bell round the necks of all Poopey residents - a custom some of them still maintain to this day. Unfortunately he went to America after five years and became one of their now much revered and celebrated earlier settlers. Strange that because I find that Americans today hardly ever pay their bills on time. Confucious
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Tue 1 Oct 13

St Retford says...

Stnana wrote:
Foxy off to Bolton then ?
Innit.

Have we got some link with Bolton to loan them the players that we think can't cut it at the level we want to be?
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Foxy off to Bolton then ?[/p][/quote]Innit. Have we got some link with Bolton to loan them the players that we think can't cut it at the level we want to be? St Retford
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Tue 1 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Beer Monster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual.
Dave Merrington "What we don't want now is Lawro to predict us to win"
I dunno he got it right last week, could be on a run, if he avoids the usual cut and paste 1 - 2 defeat for us.
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 6th now and of course the DE are tempting fate as usual.[/p][/quote]Dave Merrington "What we don't want now is Lawro to predict us to win"[/p][/quote]I dunno he got it right last week, could be on a run, if he avoids the usual cut and paste 1 - 2 defeat for us. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Tue 1 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

IsayIsay wrote:
Qoute...............

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Saints closing in on top flight record


In your dreams !!!!!!
Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare?
[quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: Qoute............... ......... Saints closing in on top flight record In your dreams !!!!!![/p][/quote]Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

3:52pm Tue 1 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

IsayIsay wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
IsayIsay wrote:
Qoute...............



.........

Saints closing in on top flight record


In your dreams !!!!!!
Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare?
Wrong, try again !!!
Just a WUM and a waste of space?
[quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: Qoute............... ......... Saints closing in on top flight record In your dreams !!!!!![/p][/quote]Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare?[/p][/quote]Wrong, try again !!![/p][/quote]Just a WUM and a waste of space? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

3:54pm Tue 1 Oct 13

FindAndDestroy says...

I have got a feeling It's going to be a very tough and long season . no team seems to run away with the title, we are having a different leader almost every week, the top six are so close......which is exciting to see especially when we are included.

Without being too optimistic.....I know it's early stage, but being above United and City it's something worth celebrating........t
his time last year we conceded 18 goals, not to mention three years ago we were playing league one football......as far as fans are concerned , I think we are getting more than what we would have hoped for....

If we keep on playing the way we are at the moment, relegation battles will soon be things of the past or perhaps distance memories......

Lets just hope we don't lose any of our players through injuries....
I have got a feeling It's going to be a very tough and long season . no team seems to run away with the title, we are having a different leader almost every week, the top six are so close......which is exciting to see especially when we are included. Without being too optimistic.....I know it's early stage, but being above United and City it's something worth celebrating........t his time last year we conceded 18 goals, not to mention three years ago we were playing league one football......as far as fans are concerned , I think we are getting more than what we would have hoped for.... If we keep on playing the way we are at the moment, relegation battles will soon be things of the past or perhaps distance memories...... Lets just hope we don't lose any of our players through injuries.... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 4

4:25pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Costa Baz says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere....

Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on.

I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence.

Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away..

For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games.
Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

5:02pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Costa Baz wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.[/p][/quote]Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Clausentum Saint says...

Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been.

If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.
Yes indeed, a bit of a come down for Newton.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]True, but where we are is always a consequence of our history and where we've been. If King Rufas hadn't been killed by William Tell in the New Forest and dropped that apple then Isaac Walton would never have invented the Law of Gravity.[/p][/quote]Yes indeed, a bit of a come down for Newton. Clausentum Saint
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Beer Monster says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.
He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.[/p][/quote]Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.[/p][/quote]He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year. Beer Monster
  • Score: 2

5:13pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Costa Baz says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.
I do believe you are correct.
Got carried away with thoughts of that era, but stick by my opinion that the team was better than the current one, both the Keegan era and when finishing 2nd.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.[/p][/quote]Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.[/p][/quote]I do believe you are correct. Got carried away with thoughts of that era, but stick by my opinion that the team was better than the current one, both the Keegan era and when finishing 2nd. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

5:57pm Tue 1 Oct 13

right back in the bar says...

All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title. right back in the bar
  • Score: 2

5:57pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Beer Monster wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.
He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year.
Great series. They used to sing about a little fishy on a dishy, just as relevant today as it was then!

WTFILN?
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.[/p][/quote]Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.[/p][/quote]He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year.[/p][/quote]Great series. They used to sing about a little fishy on a dishy, just as relevant today as it was then! WTFILN? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

6:04pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

6:08pm Tue 1 Oct 13

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end. right back in the bar
  • Score: 0

6:44pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Confucious says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
Short memories I'm afraid - as in all the other nostalgic posts on here today.

The greatest team ever was the one that won the Southern League in 1896/7 - a success which lead directly to the move to the Dell in 1898.

My great granddad's memoir, a family treasure, lists the winning first eleven:

Jack Toff
Hugh Janus
Roger McCrack
Peter File
Mike Oxsore
Les Behan
Mike Oxsmells
Nick Rofilia
Jack Soffalot
Arthur Sleep
Ben Twilly

Them were the days!
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]Short memories I'm afraid - as in all the other nostalgic posts on here today. The greatest team ever was the one that won the Southern League in 1896/7 - a success which lead directly to the move to the Dell in 1898. My great granddad's memoir, a family treasure, lists the winning first eleven: Jack Toff Hugh Janus Roger McCrack Peter File Mike Oxsore Les Behan Mike Oxsmells Nick Rofilia Jack Soffalot Arthur Sleep Ben Twilly Them were the days! Confucious
  • Score: 5

6:53pm Tue 1 Oct 13

warrens 76 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
I was there at highbury to and on the pitch! what a day ...we were the best team in the league that yer no doubt..
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]I was there at highbury to and on the pitch! what a day ...we were the best team in the league that yer no doubt.. warrens 76
  • Score: 4

7:16pm Tue 1 Oct 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

whats this about Fox going out on loan?
whats this about Fox going out on loan? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Tue 1 Oct 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

to Bolton
to Bolton worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Tue 1 Oct 13

J7junctionseven says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
I was there at highbury to and on the pitch! what a day ...we were the best team in the league that yer no doubt..
Ditto. What a day. Funny when the Everton fans nearly got to the half way line and then ran back to their end when they saw the hoards of Saints fans on the pitch running towards them.
Always remember Adrian Heaths over cheesie grin when he scored....still haunts me to this day!
Good day out apart from the result
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]I was there at highbury to and on the pitch! what a day ...we were the best team in the league that yer no doubt..[/p][/quote]Ditto. What a day. Funny when the Everton fans nearly got to the half way line and then ran back to their end when they saw the hoards of Saints fans on the pitch running towards them. Always remember Adrian Heaths over cheesie grin when he scored....still haunts me to this day! Good day out apart from the result COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

7:23pm Tue 1 Oct 13

J7junctionseven says...

Confucious wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
Short memories I'm afraid - as in all the other nostalgic posts on here today.

The greatest team ever was the one that won the Southern League in 1896/7 - a success which lead directly to the move to the Dell in 1898.

My great granddad's memoir, a family treasure, lists the winning first eleven:

Jack Toff
Hugh Janus
Roger McCrack
Peter File
Mike Oxsore
Les Behan
Mike Oxsmells
Nick Rofilia
Jack Soffalot
Arthur Sleep
Ben Twilly

Them were the days!
Are you sure that's not the skunts Echo WUM X1
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]Short memories I'm afraid - as in all the other nostalgic posts on here today. The greatest team ever was the one that won the Southern League in 1896/7 - a success which lead directly to the move to the Dell in 1898. My great granddad's memoir, a family treasure, lists the winning first eleven: Jack Toff Hugh Janus Roger McCrack Peter File Mike Oxsore Les Behan Mike Oxsmells Nick Rofilia Jack Soffalot Arthur Sleep Ben Twilly Them were the days![/p][/quote]Are you sure that's not the skunts Echo WUM X1 J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Tue 1 Oct 13

slugger says...

Our present squad is better than any other we've ever had IMO ...... by a distance !
Our present squad is better than any other we've ever had IMO ...... by a distance ! slugger
  • Score: -1

7:35pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Costa Baz says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

7:38pm Tue 1 Oct 13

J7junctionseven says...

Squeak, squeak went the jealous skunt
Squeak, squeak went the jealous skunt J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

7:47pm Tue 1 Oct 13

J7junctionseven says...

Costa Baz wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans.
Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side!
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.[/p][/quote]We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans. Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

8:17pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans.
Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side!
It was a great day out indeed...until that goal.

Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O(
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.[/p][/quote]We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans. Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side![/p][/quote]It was a great day out indeed...until that goal. Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O( Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

8:46pm Tue 1 Oct 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans.
Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side!
It was a great day out indeed...until that goal.

Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O(
That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since.

It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him!
The Clock End was heaving that day.

The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day.

The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.[/p][/quote]We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans. Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side![/p][/quote]It was a great day out indeed...until that goal. Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O([/p][/quote]That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since. It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him! The Clock End was heaving that day. The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day. The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan. TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans.
Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side!
It was a great day out indeed...until that goal.

Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O(
That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since.

It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him!
The Clock End was heaving that day.

The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day.

The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan.
Agreed...we went to that SF knowing we were the under dogs....and so it proved to be on the day. Rush in his prime that day as I remember.
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.[/p][/quote]We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans. Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side![/p][/quote]It was a great day out indeed...until that goal. Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O([/p][/quote]That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since. It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him! The Clock End was heaving that day. The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day. The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan.[/p][/quote]Agreed...we went to that SF knowing we were the under dogs....and so it proved to be on the day. Rush in his prime that day as I remember. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

9:32pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Salar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Beer Monster wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Retford wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.
I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.
Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..
If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.
Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.
He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year.
Great series. They used to sing about a little fishy on a dishy, just as relevant today as it was then!

WTFILN?
Ah, the great Jack Ford, or the song by Alex Glasgow. No matter, when the boat comes in, the fishes are caught when the boat comes in (or in the case of our fishy neighbours - sh*fted by investors"). Ha Ha Ha, so many trophies all purchased at quite a price.
WTFILN?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Everyone talks about that team of 30 years ago as our best ever. I don't really remember them, but I bet you the current team would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Things have never been so good.[/p][/quote]I don’t think it is realistic to compare teams from different eras, they should just be enjoyed on their merits of the time. The pace and athleticism of this era makes it a different game, though perhaps the most significant change is that Ivan Golac was the only non-British player in the team.[/p][/quote]Allowing for pace, athleticism, diet and so on you would be right.....however like for like our early 80's teams were awesome and could beat anyone anywhere.... Consider these names..Ball. Channon. Keegan, WORTHINGTON (most underrated player ever) Charlie George, Williams, Shilton, Wright (awesome too) Moran, Mills, Golac, Wallace, the list goes on. I mean there was a world class player in almost every position...indeed had we signed Worthington sooner we would have kept Keegan and won the league twice make no mistake..[/p][/quote]If the team of Keegan's era were granted the same levels of fitness, as the current squad, it would batter the current team, simply because it had more flair players and more players capable of scoring goals, regularly. As well as having a solid defence. Defensively, the current squad is looking very good, and as much as we are all enjoying being 6th, let's not get too carried away. We've had a relatively easy start, to the season and I think most of us hoped to have around this many points, at this point. Although the way they have been gained is a tad surprising, as in 6 points away and just 5 at home, as against the "expectation" of 9 points at home and maybe 2/3 away.. For this squad to be compared to the earlier squad, they need to be judged over the whole season, not just over 6 games. Having said that, in this age of money buying success, and there being so many "big" teams that have squads full of the type of player we aspire to attain, finishing in the top 7 would probably be as good as the Keegan squad finishing 2nd, in terms of achievement.[/p][/quote]Am I right in thinking that Keegan was not in the squad that finished second? I thought he had already left by the 83/84 season.[/p][/quote]He left in 1982; a scene in one of the final episodes of the first series of Auf Wiedersehen Pet has Jimmy Nail sat in a hospital bed, expressing his delight that Keegan is off to play for Newcastle - that was the year the series was made, and screened the following year.[/p][/quote]Great series. They used to sing about a little fishy on a dishy, just as relevant today as it was then! WTFILN?[/p][/quote]Ah, the great Jack Ford, or the song by Alex Glasgow. No matter, when the boat comes in, the fishes are caught when the boat comes in (or in the case of our fishy neighbours - sh*fted by investors"). Ha Ha Ha, so many trophies all purchased at quite a price. WTFILN? Salar
  • Score: 0

11:34pm Tue 1 Oct 13

business-guru says...

10-9 win is 3 points. 0-0 is a clean sheet and 1 point.
10-9 win is 3 points. 0-0 is a clean sheet and 1 point. business-guru
  • Score: -2

11:53pm Tue 1 Oct 13

Spudsaint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.
I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.
Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.
I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal.

Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.
We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans.
Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side!
It was a great day out indeed...until that goal.

Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O(
That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since.

It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him!
The Clock End was heaving that day.

The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day.

The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan.
Agreed...we went to that SF knowing we were the under dogs....and so it proved to be on the day. Rush in his prime that day as I remember.
Couldn't make the Highbury semi but I was there on the shelf at White Hart Lane. Still remember the crack when Mark Wright broke his leg and Kevin Bond's slip up for the goal. Was at Wembley too as a kid for the Charity Shield and League Cup final. Great days and so pleased to see Saints doing well enough again to remind us of our finest era.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: All you lot who claim to know about the class of 84 let me tell you the preferred 11 was Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Wright, Agbola, Holmes, Williams, Armstrong, Moran, Worthington, Wallace. This lot were illustrious and the current bunch still have it all to prove. That said there are some similarities -the team was built around a system with Agbola playing as sweeper and results were in large part down to defensive solidity. Even so the team still had bags more flair than MPs team. In the end we l missed out on the double murdering Everton at Highbury but failing to score in the cup semi final, and an injured Steve Williams in the run in cost us the title.[/p][/quote]I was absolutely gutted at Highbury. Yes this curent team is superb and has the potential to exceed the class of 84 but still has some way to go to even equal them.[/p][/quote]Blazing hot day as I remember and way too many of us packed into the clock end.[/p][/quote]I tried going down the side terraces, only to be stopped by a copper. Said I could only go down there if I had kids. Told him I had two at home. He wasn't impressed and politely told me to go behind the goal. Williams wasn't fit for that match, yet were still the better team with just 10 fit players.[/p][/quote]We were sat on the metal fencing right at the back of all the Saints fans. Wouldn't do it now with a few beers inside me....it was a long way down on the other side![/p][/quote]It was a great day out indeed...until that goal. Our bus broke down on the way home too..got back just after closing time :O([/p][/quote]That game was the most upset I have ever got at a match, before or since. It was a great day out until Adrian bl00dy Heath. I hate him! The Clock End was heaving that day. The '86 Semi Final at White Hart Lane just wasn't the same. Lawrie had gone & our team then wasn't a patch on the '83 - '84 team. Mark Wright's broken leg & the rain put a damper on the day & we were lucky to get to extra time that day. The only good parts of the day were the pubs before hand & the novelty of standing on the shelf instead of being behind the goal as an away fan.[/p][/quote]Agreed...we went to that SF knowing we were the under dogs....and so it proved to be on the day. Rush in his prime that day as I remember.[/p][/quote]Couldn't make the Highbury semi but I was there on the shelf at White Hart Lane. Still remember the crack when Mark Wright broke his leg and Kevin Bond's slip up for the goal. Was at Wembley too as a kid for the Charity Shield and League Cup final. Great days and so pleased to see Saints doing well enough again to remind us of our finest era. Spudsaint
  • Score: 0

12:36am Wed 2 Oct 13

Santa Retfordia says...

slugger wrote:
Our present squad is better than any other we've ever had IMO ...... by a distance !
Totally! This team playing a high press against any team from the early 80s would be like super-fit alien species playing against a talented pub side. Things have moved on so much. I guess a lot would depend, mind, on which era the ref comes from or whether back passes were allowed.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Our present squad is better than any other we've ever had IMO ...... by a distance ![/p][/quote]Totally! This team playing a high press against any team from the early 80s would be like super-fit alien species playing against a talented pub side. Things have moved on so much. I guess a lot would depend, mind, on which era the ref comes from or whether back passes were allowed. Santa Retfordia
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1:43am Wed 2 Oct 13

hedge end bob says...

SKY sports news , stated FOX loan deal near completion with a view to a permanent move. Good luck to him and Bolton. Who will be our cover for LUKE ??????
SKY sports news , stated FOX loan deal near completion with a view to a permanent move. Good luck to him and Bolton. Who will be our cover for LUKE ?????? hedge end bob
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8:59am Wed 2 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
SKY sports news , stated FOX loan deal near completion with a view to a permanent move. Good luck to him and Bolton. Who will be our cover for LUKE ??????
Clyne to move over Chambers to come in, or Matt Targett once he has some more experience. Yoshida at a push but wasn't impressed the last time he tried!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: SKY sports news , stated FOX loan deal near completion with a view to a permanent move. Good luck to him and Bolton. Who will be our cover for LUKE ??????[/p][/quote]Clyne to move over Chambers to come in, or Matt Targett once he has some more experience. Yoshida at a push but wasn't impressed the last time he tried! OSPREYSAINT
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9:01am Wed 2 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

IsayIsay wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
IsayIsay wrote:
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Saints closing in on top flight record


In your dreams !!!!!!
Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare?
Wrong, try again !!!
Just a WUM and a waste of space?
I'm not winding anybody up, I just tell the truth.
Lets see were they are at the end of the season, my bet is they will be in the bottom 8.
As long as they are not in the bottom three, I won't be too bothered.
[quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IsayIsay[/bold] wrote: Qoute............... ......... Saints closing in on top flight record In your dreams !!!!!![/p][/quote]Are you a skate and is another 2 - 4 in your latest nightmare?[/p][/quote]Wrong, try again !!![/p][/quote]Just a WUM and a waste of space?[/p][/quote]I'm not winding anybody up, I just tell the truth. Lets see were they are at the end of the season, my bet is they will be in the bottom 8.[/p][/quote]As long as they are not in the bottom three, I won't be too bothered. OSPREYSAINT
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