Nicola Cortese talks about his time at Southampton FC

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Nicola Cortese gave a rare public appearance when he was a guest at the Leaders in Football conference.

Saints’ executive chairman was part of a panel which also included Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck and Peter Siemsen, president of Brazilian side Fluminense.

Cortese wasn’t given extensive time to talk but here is what he had to say...

On his arrival at Saints...

I remember the first day very well.

When we got in there there was basically all the staff group in a room and they were depressed.

They came out of administration and went through some horrible moments and a situation of uncertainty and then obviously we came in as the new owners with a plan.

I remember that when we addressed the staff we wanted to get back ASAP in the Premiership and some of the plans we would want to implement.

One of the staff reminded me that we were in League One with minus ten points in 24th position.

Obviously it’s good to have nice bright plans but you need the staff who believe in what you are doing and the way you’re doing (it) and in particular we came up with some plans that maybe were not traditional in English football in how we wanted to be structured in the club.

On the company he inherited...

We wanted to do a bit more the continental approach in terms of the company structure.

The manager has an important role but actually just becomes a department head like others and we got to build the company again.

Whilst I know we are talking about a football club and it’s all related to football, there was more that needed rebuilding at that very moment.

There was basically needed a company structure and a company culture.

There was absolutely no company culture in the club at that time, there was no plans, no vision, no ambition.

Using the word ambition was a problem for some people because we were living down in the south coast. You can have ambition but you shouldn’t show that you really mean we should be ambitious.

It was a bit more psychological. We nearly had to be psychologists in that moment to get people on board.

I remember there were about 90 members of staff and today there has been a lot of changes and so on and we grew as a company. Obviously we came up the leagues but we grew as a company, we have a culture today.

On those first seasons...

We didn’t get promoted in the first season. Those minus ten points weighted at the end and we couldn’t get into the play-offs.

The plan was actually to get promoted in the first year and then to spend three years in the Championship but we had to accept that we had to do it the other way round – two years in League One and then one year in the Championship and it worked out.

On financial fair play...

I think the word on its own ‘fair play’ is wrong. It’s financial regulations.

It will be virtually impossible even though we are a club that believe a lot of things are possible to close that gap towards Manchester United which I believe has somewhere around £190m just commercial income.

We are very very far away from that.

We will in the next three-five years grow our commercial income by around 70-100 per cent which is high but we will still be very far away from that.

It doesn’t mean we feel disadvantaged. You have to give them credit for the great work they have done over the decade. They did a good job and they deserve credit for that and if they get advantage through that they deserve it.

What we’ve got to do is first of all not to feel disadvantaged, just apply brighter ideas.

While commercially we can’t close the gap, when it comes down to other aspects that’s where we need to try to be better in order to close that commercial gap we have, and definitely is going to stay, probably for always.

On salary capping...

We have this salary cap and that’s something we have fought against because it would leave me in a situation that we have a sustainable business and make profits but can’t use those profits to potentially maintain a player with a higher salary because we are capped quite low.

On changing managers...

You don’t just change managers for the sake of it. Ultimately we all want the best for the club and if you plan a manager change it’s because you have hard facts, insight of what’s going on in your club – facts which are not known to the public who ultimately make the judgement if it’s a good change or not a good change.

For them it’s easy because they can wait to make the ultimate verdict whilst you have got to take a decision.

For us it’s coming through different leagues and you needed somebody who fulfils a role in certain situations and when you are in League One it’s a different situation to the Championship and coming to the Premier League is again different.

Those two changes we made is always a cause of the progression we had as a club because I think the worst thing for any company and not only football clubs is you have a stand still. You need to keep on progressing.

When you take a decision and change a manager we are of the perception that maybe progress has stopped. You have to take a decision whether it’s popular or unpopular.

On the changes he made...

I remember when we did the change with Alan Pardew we took about three weeks to bring a new manager in and from the first day everybody said it was a stupid decision to make that change if you don’t have anybody lined up.

And then two years later you do the change and have somebody lined up and that was seen as controversial and a cruel decision.

I think in our case what also had an impact is that we changed the manager on the back of victories and people say ‘why do you change when you win’, and in Nigel’s case we came back from 2-0 down to 2-2 at Stamford Bridge.

This is a process and especially when you have somebody lined up it’s a process which is going on so the decision has been taken beforehand and maybe a lot of people would think maybe we should wait but we thought this was the right time to do it. This was planned in advance exactly the day we were going to do it. That’s why somebody was lined up.

I think to be honest looking at those two scenarios if one day I would be in a similar situation I would do it the same way again.

I think it’s important that you can address issues that you have potentially in the club to the team, they obviously need to respond and to accept the change at the end, and you have somebody lined up that they can immediately start working with.

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4:57pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Portswood says...

Wow. Imagine if Nicola Cortese *had* been given "extensive time to talk".
Wow. Imagine if Nicola Cortese *had* been given "extensive time to talk". Portswood

7:05pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Norwegian Saint says...

Quite impressed with that. I had doubts about him on a couple of occasions but he was right both times.
The only thing I wish he would do now is put MoPo on an English course, the little chap who interprets him is starting to get annoying :-)
Quite impressed with that. I had doubts about him on a couple of occasions but he was right both times. The only thing I wish he would do now is put MoPo on an English course, the little chap who interprets him is starting to get annoying :-) Norwegian Saint

7:14pm Thu 10 Oct 13

saint Compo says...

We're in good hands!
COYR
We're in good hands! COYR saint Compo

7:50pm Thu 10 Oct 13

costa gaz says...

And Southampton chairman Cortese warned he will not hesitate to ruthlessly sack the Argentine like his two previous managers to “progress” the club.


This was in the Mirror, I don't think it was part of the interview, i hope it is not.
Pochettino would have offers from all over Europe if other clubs viewed this statement as true.

No wonder he keeps quiet normally.
And Southampton chairman Cortese warned he will not hesitate to ruthlessly sack the Argentine like his two previous managers to “progress” the club. This was in the Mirror, I don't think it was part of the interview, i hope it is not. Pochettino would have offers from all over Europe if other clubs viewed this statement as true. No wonder he keeps quiet normally. costa gaz

8:10pm Thu 10 Oct 13

slugger says...

There you go Tebourba , the Don has spoken ....... is he wrong in a single thing he says ?
There you go Tebourba , the Don has spoken ....... is he wrong in a single thing he says ? slugger

8:14pm Thu 10 Oct 13

slugger says...

costa gaz wrote:
And Southampton chairman Cortese warned he will not hesitate to ruthlessly sack the Argentine like his two previous managers to “progress” the club.


This was in the Mirror, I don't think it was part of the interview, i hope it is not.
Pochettino would have offers from all over Europe if other clubs viewed this statement as true.

No wonder he keeps quiet normally.
that's the tabloid take on the interview (reading between lines) , Nicola said nothing of the sort .
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: And Southampton chairman Cortese warned he will not hesitate to ruthlessly sack the Argentine like his two previous managers to “progress” the club. This was in the Mirror, I don't think it was part of the interview, i hope it is not. Pochettino would have offers from all over Europe if other clubs viewed this statement as true. No wonder he keeps quiet normally.[/p][/quote]that's the tabloid take on the interview (reading between lines) , Nicola said nothing of the sort . slugger

8:21pm Thu 10 Oct 13

THE12THMAN says...

I think N.C. has done a great job, long may the good work continue, onward and upward COYR.
I think N.C. has done a great job, long may the good work continue, onward and upward COYR. THE12THMAN

8:29pm Thu 10 Oct 13

willygetaway says...

its no longer a house of cards and now its official.
we are great, all the way from the top to the bottom
WTFILN
THE DON HAS SPOKEN
its no longer a house of cards and now its official. we are great, all the way from the top to the bottom WTFILN THE DON HAS SPOKEN willygetaway

8:32pm Thu 10 Oct 13

dadofmy3sons says...

NC did not say the word ruthlessly.
He did not say he would sack MP.
He did say that he feels he dealt with a situation, and he would do it the same again.
He also pointed out that the first time he didn't have someone ready and people said that was wrong. The second time he did have a successor and that was wrong too.
Quite rightly he points out that you cannot have it both ways, either one is wrong and the other right, or perhaps we should still have Sturrock in charge and be in the same league as Eastleigh.
He has made decisions which have been controversial, at the time.
He has also been proved right with hindsight.
Saints fans were applauded by other clubs because we allowed Nigel's departure to be celebrated and welcomed the new manager in without giving him the bird for replacing a favourite. Allowing MP to settle in to the job and ultimately to lead us to recent success.
At the moment it is a really great feeling to be a Saints supporter.
The doomngloomerchants are never very far away though and I imagine they will pick over NC's speech and manage to find fault.
NC did not say the word ruthlessly. He did not say he would sack MP. He did say that he feels he dealt with a situation, and he would do it the same again. He also pointed out that the first time he didn't have someone ready and people said that was wrong. The second time he did have a successor and that was wrong too. Quite rightly he points out that you cannot have it both ways, either one is wrong and the other right, or perhaps we should still have Sturrock in charge and be in the same league as Eastleigh. He has made decisions which have been controversial, at the time. He has also been proved right with hindsight. Saints fans were applauded by other clubs because we allowed Nigel's departure to be celebrated and welcomed the new manager in without giving him the bird for replacing a favourite. Allowing MP to settle in to the job and ultimately to lead us to recent success. At the moment it is a really great feeling to be a Saints supporter. The doomngloomerchants are never very far away though and I imagine they will pick over NC's speech and manage to find fault. dadofmy3sons

8:44pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR
Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR Baddesley Bill

8:51pm Thu 10 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Personally I await with bated breath for The Borers take on it, he is the master of turning the truth in to fantasy, so it could be worth waiting for. My take on this thread is that NC has only reiterated what I suspected all the time, my previous defensive posts have been born out by the facts as Nicola Cortese has stated. I am often misguided and misinformed, but for once I think I read the situation correctly.
Personally I await with bated breath for The Borers take on it, he is the master of turning the truth in to fantasy, so it could be worth waiting for. My take on this thread is that NC has only reiterated what I suspected all the time, my previous defensive posts have been born out by the facts as Nicola Cortese has stated. I am often misguided and misinformed, but for once I think I read the situation correctly. OSPREYSAINT

8:59pm Thu 10 Oct 13

mack chinnon says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR
He is miles better than Rupert.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR[/p][/quote]He is miles better than Rupert. mack chinnon

9:06pm Thu 10 Oct 13

florida saint says...

mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all. florida saint

9:41pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Confucious says...

It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities", especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev
e variety.

But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy.

Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it.

The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week.
It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities", especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev e variety. But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy. Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it. The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week. Confucious

9:56pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Confucious wrote:
It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities"
, especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev

e variety.

But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy.

Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it.

The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week.
Intellectually speaking....the lad done well! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities" , especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev e variety. But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy. Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it. The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week.[/p][/quote]Intellectually speaking....the lad done well! :O) Baddesley Bill

10:12pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Buddy SFC says...

The man is a GENIUS ..........

Now come on the BORE ........yawnnnnnn !
The man is a GENIUS .......... Now come on the BORE ........yawnnnnnn ! Buddy SFC

10:15pm Thu 10 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS. OSPREYSAINT

10:31pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Santa Retfordia says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.[/p][/quote]We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction. Santa Retfordia

10:45pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.
Blimey Ret...we share the same club, birthday and have both given up the smokes...are you a northern mini (skinny) me?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.[/p][/quote]We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret...we share the same club, birthday and have both given up the smokes...are you a northern mini (skinny) me? Baddesley Bill

10:53pm Thu 10 Oct 13

Malcombe says...

I was very impressed with what I've read from Nicola, also "reading between the lines" there is a lot that goes on "behind the scenes" that the Supporters will never know, he is a fantastic businessman who doesn't suffer fools gladly, we all love Nigel Adkins but attracting top Players to a Club is often seen by the Players who are approached as who is the Manager, ex Players who becomes Managers can persuade world class Players to play for the Club if they too were the same standard, the Club is not in Football to make up the numbers they are in it to win it, Nicola cannot afford to be sentimental if the Company that is SFC wants to progress, it's a business that has to profit, can anyone tell me if I'm wrong when I am proud to say that SFC are the only Football Club in Britain that is in the "black" Nicola is running the business and he wants what all the supporters and Employees want, SFC to be a top Club, he's probably fed up seeing the same 6 Clubs hogging all the headlines and saw the potential in Southampton to make it a top Club that means joining the top 6 to become the top 7, the set up with the facilities at SFC is now he best in the Premier League and with the planning permission needing the last box ticked for Staplewood it will the best in the Country, the vision seen by Nicola is for Players to be nurtured from boys to men within the Club to Play for the Club and if they become unhappy the Club sells them with a fat profit, this means the Club will be able to work within there budget and continue to progress, with Saints 4th in the league if they keep to this ratio they will win the League, yes yes yes oh and the FA Cup
I was very impressed with what I've read from Nicola, also "reading between the lines" there is a lot that goes on "behind the scenes" that the Supporters will never know, he is a fantastic businessman who doesn't suffer fools gladly, we all love Nigel Adkins but attracting top Players to a Club is often seen by the Players who are approached as who is the Manager, ex Players who becomes Managers can persuade world class Players to play for the Club if they too were the same standard, the Club is not in Football to make up the numbers they are in it to win it, Nicola cannot afford to be sentimental if the Company that is SFC wants to progress, it's a business that has to profit, can anyone tell me if I'm wrong when I am proud to say that SFC are the only Football Club in Britain that is in the "black" Nicola is running the business and he wants what all the supporters and Employees want, SFC to be a top Club, he's probably fed up seeing the same 6 Clubs hogging all the headlines and saw the potential in Southampton to make it a top Club that means joining the top 6 to become the top 7, the set up with the facilities at SFC is now he best in the Premier League and with the planning permission needing the last box ticked for Staplewood it will the best in the Country, the vision seen by Nicola is for Players to be nurtured from boys to men within the Club to Play for the Club and if they become unhappy the Club sells them with a fat profit, this means the Club will be able to work within there budget and continue to progress, with Saints 4th in the league if they keep to this ratio they will win the League, yes yes yes oh and the FA Cup Malcombe

11:15pm Thu 10 Oct 13

florida saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
yep that's what I ment...u t s
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.[/p][/quote]yep that's what I ment...u t s florida saint

11:52pm Thu 10 Oct 13

DisplacedFan says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.
I'll drink to that.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.[/p][/quote]We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.[/p][/quote]I'll drink to that. DisplacedFan

1:19am Fri 11 Oct 13

Lucky Stripes says...

I really hope that Poch wins the "Department Head" of the Month award and Artur wins Player of the Month!!
I really hope that Poch wins the "Department Head" of the Month award and Artur wins Player of the Month!! Lucky Stripes

7:40am Fri 11 Oct 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
florida saint wrote:
mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.
I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.
We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.
Blimey Ret...we share the same club, birthday and have both given up the smokes...are you a northern mini (skinny) me?
Heh. Cancerians Against Cancer!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: mr c, also you have benefited from 30,000 loyal fans..... u t s. just thought saints fans deserved amention that's all.[/p][/quote]I think there are a few more than 30,000, they just don't all turn up at once! You are correct I Second that motion, well done the loyal fans, at last you are getting some reward. UTS.[/p][/quote]We need a bigger stadium. We also need to book more of an away allocation at games. Nicola has got fans of this club energised like no one in history. Times might be tight but people will always find the money to see this team in action. I've even stopped smoking to fund a new addiction.[/p][/quote]Blimey Ret...we share the same club, birthday and have both given up the smokes...are you a northern mini (skinny) me?[/p][/quote]Heh. Cancerians Against Cancer! Santa Retfordia

8:20am Fri 11 Oct 13

andoru says...

Anyone know where I can watch or listen to his speech? I don't think I've ever heard to man's voice. I can't access You Tube or quite a few other websites because I live in China these days and they block a lot of stuff.
Anyone know where I can watch or listen to his speech? I don't think I've ever heard to man's voice. I can't access You Tube or quite a few other websites because I live in China these days and they block a lot of stuff. andoru

8:36am Fri 11 Oct 13

Positively4thStreet says...

Nicola,we love you,but why oh why couldn't you have said all this months ago?
It's all any of us have wanted to hear!
Nicola,we love you,but why oh why couldn't you have said all this months ago? It's all any of us have wanted to hear! Positively4thStreet

8:48am Fri 11 Oct 13

Dave Juson says...

andoru wrote:
Anyone know where I can watch or listen to his speech? I don't think I've ever heard to man's voice. I can't access You Tube or quite a few other websites because I live in China these days and they block a lot of stuff.
It’s all part of a Manchester United plot to undermine support for all other Premiership clubs in the People’s Republic. There are Reds everywhere!
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Anyone know where I can watch or listen to his speech? I don't think I've ever heard to man's voice. I can't access You Tube or quite a few other websites because I live in China these days and they block a lot of stuff.[/p][/quote]It’s all part of a Manchester United plot to undermine support for all other Premiership clubs in the People’s Republic. There are Reds everywhere! Dave Juson

9:00am Fri 11 Oct 13

george chivers says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR
He is miles better than Rupert.
Light Years.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: Hard to argue with any of that. Love him or loathe him....he has put this Club on a course towards major success COYR[/p][/quote]He is miles better than Rupert.[/p][/quote]Light Years. george chivers

9:05am Fri 11 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Nicola,we love you,but why oh why couldn't you have said all this months ago?
It's all any of us have wanted to hear!
I think you will find that he has said it before, just nobody was listening.......
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Nicola,we love you,but why oh why couldn't you have said all this months ago? It's all any of us have wanted to hear![/p][/quote]I think you will find that he has said it before, just nobody was listening....... OSPREYSAINT

9:09am Fri 11 Oct 13

andoru says...

What about my previous comment merits a thumbs down?
What about my previous comment merits a thumbs down? andoru

10:36am Fri 11 Oct 13

SFCOLDBOY says...

Confucious wrote:
It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities"
, especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev

e variety.

But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy.

Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it.

The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week.
Confucious, very well put.
You have talked for almost all of Saints' fans.(Borer, obviously excluded).
Yes we have all had miss-givings about some of his actions but you have to look at the bigger picture in hind sight.
Our club was on its knees heading for the basement of the football league, at best.
Minus 10 points in div one.
We now, in this increadibly short time, moved to 4th in the Premier league.
Has this been achieved by luck?
No!
This has been acheived by the chairmans' obstinate and ruthless vision for the future of our club to be a power in word football.
I have supported Saints for more than 50 years and I have never been more excited about the future of OUR club
It's in good hands.
COYS.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It's hard to feel warmth towards Nicola. He doesn't show much emotion. The businessman is always on show, the man rarely is - and fans are always drawn to "personalities" , especially those of the heart-on-their-sleev e variety. But he's produced a lot more than orchestrate continuous and rapid success since he joined us and indeed with Markus helped save the club. He's made very many thousands of people proud and happy. Nicola may look rather impassive and even solemn-faced most of the time, but as far as I'm concerned he's created a happiness factory in Southampton - and I thank him hugely for it. The players are left to display the emotions - like those seen on Rickie Lambert's face when the ex Bristol Rovers and beetroot factory man scored his first England goal at Wembley. And us fans too - when we celebrated two promotions; when we relish our Premier status and when the success of our club gives us a feel-good glow every day of every week.[/p][/quote]Confucious, very well put. You have talked for almost all of Saints' fans.(Borer, obviously excluded). Yes we have all had miss-givings about some of his actions but you have to look at the bigger picture in hind sight. Our club was on its knees heading for the basement of the football league, at best. Minus 10 points in div one. We now, in this increadibly short time, moved to 4th in the Premier league. Has this been achieved by luck? No! This has been acheived by the chairmans' obstinate and ruthless vision for the future of our club to be a power in word football. I have supported Saints for more than 50 years and I have never been more excited about the future of OUR club It's in good hands. COYS. SFCOLDBOY

11:44am Fri 11 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

andoru wrote:
What about my previous comment merits a thumbs down?
I think it was the way you wrote it, read it again, it is a little bit duff!
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: What about my previous comment merits a thumbs down?[/p][/quote]I think it was the way you wrote it, read it again, it is a little bit duff! OSPREYSAINT

11:48am Fri 11 Oct 13

Saint. says...

Really glad that NC has taken this opportunity to to give some insight it his real plans and just goes to show many Saints have said. Must really hurt the DE to print it after the continuous knocking of NC!
Sorry he is called the Don and the likes, but he has been doing what others before was not capable of doing, and it quite simply seeing the bigger picture, and put a plan to deliver on that bigger picture. Make those difficult and slightly unpopular decisions to deliver what all Saints fans dream to see in their lifetime! Not standing still and accepting, but putting life and believe into the club, and quite simply to say to all those pundits, media and other so called plastic supporters, WHY CANT SAINTS BE A BIG CLUB AND WIN THIS LEAGUE! But he says it quite simply with actions and not words!

An example for you all to have a laugh. I got a Chelsea boss who still finds an angle to have a swipe at Saints, though at the moment it is more perfected than others, and that is he now saying it will not last! That coming from a club sold for a pound and given to a Russian with blood on his hands. Regardless we have a courier who came in on money moaning and moaning about spuds result. He thought for some stupid reason I might be a gooner fan. So I dual lay stopped him for this insult and said I am a Saints fan 100%! His reply was priceless, that I gave no response! He said oh Southampton, where are they in the league? Says it all! We are very lucky to have NC and it will not belong before NC takes us to the top. Club will soon worry and respect Saints before they walk on the pitch to even kick a ball, and this is half the battle won! Ask Liverpool who is now losing to us in their own backyard, out played by us, and often beaten in the transfer market by Saints. I heard a few question how this is possible coming from Saints!

This message from NC is THE SAINTS ARE COMING!!
Really glad that NC has taken this opportunity to to give some insight it his real plans and just goes to show many Saints have said. Must really hurt the DE to print it after the continuous knocking of NC! Sorry he is called the Don and the likes, but he has been doing what others before was not capable of doing, and it quite simply seeing the bigger picture, and put a plan to deliver on that bigger picture. Make those difficult and slightly unpopular decisions to deliver what all Saints fans dream to see in their lifetime! Not standing still and accepting, but putting life and believe into the club, and quite simply to say to all those pundits, media and other so called plastic supporters, WHY CANT SAINTS BE A BIG CLUB AND WIN THIS LEAGUE! But he says it quite simply with actions and not words! An example for you all to have a laugh. I got a Chelsea boss who still finds an angle to have a swipe at Saints, though at the moment it is more perfected than others, and that is he now saying it will not last! That coming from a club sold for a pound and given to a Russian with blood on his hands. Regardless we have a courier who came in on money moaning and moaning about spuds result. He thought for some stupid reason I might be a gooner fan. So I dual lay stopped him for this insult and said I am a Saints fan 100%! His reply was priceless, that I gave no response! He said oh Southampton, where are they in the league? Says it all! We are very lucky to have NC and it will not belong before NC takes us to the top. Club will soon worry and respect Saints before they walk on the pitch to even kick a ball, and this is half the battle won! Ask Liverpool who is now losing to us in their own backyard, out played by us, and often beaten in the transfer market by Saints. I heard a few question how this is possible coming from Saints! This message from NC is THE SAINTS ARE COMING!! Saint.

12:49pm Fri 11 Oct 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

you fools!

don't you understand that the borer will only turn up if you say his name three times, sacrifice a skate and then smack yourself repeatedly in the forehead with a lump hammer?

(the bit with the hammer is so that you can understand what he is dribbling on about - not that he ever says anything different)
you fools! don't you understand that the borer will only turn up if you say his name three times, sacrifice a skate and then smack yourself repeatedly in the forehead with a lump hammer? (the bit with the hammer is so that you can understand what he is dribbling on about - not that he ever says anything different) Stroppy_gramps

3:28pm Fri 11 Oct 13

willygetaway says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
you fools!

don't you understand that the borer will only turn up if you say his name three times, sacrifice a skate and then smack yourself repeatedly in the forehead with a lump hammer?

(the bit with the hammer is so that you can understand what he is dribbling on about - not that he ever says anything different)
i,m up for the sacrifice
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: you fools! don't you understand that the borer will only turn up if you say his name three times, sacrifice a skate and then smack yourself repeatedly in the forehead with a lump hammer? (the bit with the hammer is so that you can understand what he is dribbling on about - not that he ever says anything different)[/p][/quote]i,m up for the sacrifice willygetaway

3:46pm Fri 11 Oct 13

SO50 Saint says...

Although unrelated to the great man this article is about I found this quite interesting paragraph whilst looking through the national sport section regarding Cleverlys injury

United manager David Moyes will be hoping the damage is not too extensive given another midfielder, Marouane Fellaini, is playing through the discomfort of a wrist injury that will eventually require surgery. In addition, Robin van Persie is believed to be suffering a toe injury.

Get em all injured :)
Although unrelated to the great man this article is about I found this quite interesting paragraph whilst looking through the national sport section regarding Cleverlys injury United manager David Moyes will be hoping the damage is not too extensive given another midfielder, Marouane Fellaini, is playing through the discomfort of a wrist injury that will eventually require surgery. In addition, Robin van Persie is believed to be suffering a toe injury. Get em all injured :) SO50 Saint

4:58pm Fri 11 Oct 13

expatsaint says...

I can't recall a Saints chairman (or in fact any club chairman) who is, on the face of it, so unemotional and dispassionate - exactly the character traits that his position requires! These are not negative qualities, they are essentially positive because they allow him to see through the hype and the BS and get right to the heart of the problem. There is not another club in the country that would have removed a manager who had just achieved back to back promotions and who was starting to come to grips with life in the premiership - that's massive courage and gives me, and no doubt thousands of others, huge optimism for the future. Well done NC!
I can't recall a Saints chairman (or in fact any club chairman) who is, on the face of it, so unemotional and dispassionate - exactly the character traits that his position requires! These are not negative qualities, they are essentially positive because they allow him to see through the hype and the BS and get right to the heart of the problem. There is not another club in the country that would have removed a manager who had just achieved back to back promotions and who was starting to come to grips with life in the premiership - that's massive courage and gives me, and no doubt thousands of others, huge optimism for the future. Well done NC! expatsaint

12:49am Sat 12 Oct 13

jls217 says...

NC is not and never will be the most popular or liked person in the club. There is nothing about the man's demeanor which would endear him to anyone. He is rude to the point of being ignorant. For example not acknowledging his employees existence when they greet him good morning - just walks by and ignores them completely. Not a good management style. What he does do though is galvanise those same individuals through fear if necessary to, "Do it and do it now". Thus far this has been enough to take the club to an unheard of level of professionalism. He is a, "Modern manager" and like so many who work this way will never be a natural leader whom people will follow because they love and respect them. People will however obey him because they fear him and what he is capable of doing. Not a manager I would want to work for as he would be told where to poke it if he did not match my civility but it cannot be denied he has brought our club from a dire situation to one where we can begin to dream of Euro comps. Admire him no but I am grateful to him.
NC is not and never will be the most popular or liked person in the club. There is nothing about the man's demeanor which would endear him to anyone. He is rude to the point of being ignorant. For example not acknowledging his employees existence when they greet him good morning - just walks by and ignores them completely. Not a good management style. What he does do though is galvanise those same individuals through fear if necessary to, "Do it and do it now". Thus far this has been enough to take the club to an unheard of level of professionalism. He is a, "Modern manager" and like so many who work this way will never be a natural leader whom people will follow because they love and respect them. People will however obey him because they fear him and what he is capable of doing. Not a manager I would want to work for as he would be told where to poke it if he did not match my civility but it cannot be denied he has brought our club from a dire situation to one where we can begin to dream of Euro comps. Admire him no but I am grateful to him. jls217

9:37am Sat 12 Oct 13

Saint Botley says...

saint Compo wrote:
We're in good hands!
COYR
Yep, very savvy. The future is bright with him at the helm.
[quote][p][bold]saint Compo[/bold] wrote: We're in good hands! COYR[/p][/quote]Yep, very savvy. The future is bright with him at the helm. Saint Botley

11:15am Sat 12 Oct 13

TheSaintsSoothsayer says...

Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed?

I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great!

Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree.

We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong.

Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?
Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed? I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great! Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree. We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong. Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us? TheSaintsSoothsayer

11:46am Sat 12 Oct 13

SO50 Saint says...

The Saints you do make some valid points but I believe football is no longer about being family orientated etc. It is now a product not just for the people who go to the games each week but the people who live on the other side of the world. It's a business it was alright us being this little family orientated club when we were battling to stay up so the neutrals would say good old Southampton etc. This though is not the Southampton of the past and that's what Nicola is trying to change.

I do though fully agree on the sell out part I would hate to be a club in a stadium that is half full. I can only imagine the only reason we haven't had a sell out is due to the 'glamour' of the clubs we have faced which unfortunately is something I cannot stand
The Saints you do make some valid points but I believe football is no longer about being family orientated etc. It is now a product not just for the people who go to the games each week but the people who live on the other side of the world. It's a business it was alright us being this little family orientated club when we were battling to stay up so the neutrals would say good old Southampton etc. This though is not the Southampton of the past and that's what Nicola is trying to change. I do though fully agree on the sell out part I would hate to be a club in a stadium that is half full. I can only imagine the only reason we haven't had a sell out is due to the 'glamour' of the clubs we have faced which unfortunately is something I cannot stand SO50 Saint

12:24pm Sun 13 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

TheSaintsSoothsayer wrote:
Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed?

I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great!

Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree.

We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong.

Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?
Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind.
[quote][p][bold]TheSaintsSoothsayer[/bold] wrote: Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed? I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great! Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree. We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong. Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?[/p][/quote]Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind. OSPREYSAINT

5:59pm Sun 13 Oct 13

TheSaintsSoothsayer says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TheSaintsSoothsayer wrote:
Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed?

I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great!

Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree.

We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong.

Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?
Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind.
Dear oh dear, talk about blinkered.

Wonder what Pompey supporters, who were in the Premiere League, winning cups and flying high (remember, everyone thought the club was being well run because results were good on the pitch) would say about Storey et al?

Why so sarcastic? Cuddly family club? Did I say 'Cuddly'? There are many clubs who remember their history whereas Mr Cortese thinks it started in 2009.

No, the programme sellers were sacked by text message just days before a home game. Dolly birds, attractive agency staff, what's the difference.

Are you trying to give me a history lesson? I know full well Nigel duid not leave under a cloud. He did a fantastic job for which Southampton FC only to be repaid by having to take his claim for unfair dismissal to the LMA (that's the league managers association) so they could take it up on his behalf. During this time he couldn't take up another post. When it was due to go to court Mr Cortyese paid up with £500,000 - was that enough? No, I don't think so. Not for what he achieved. He certainly went with my thanks.

Lack of sell outs down to ticket prices - that'll be the CEO's decision then?

Away teams like Swansea & Palace have taken full allocations..

You misconstrued my comments when I asked what people might say when NC leaves. Thank you would not be my choice of words.
I am not borer, bourer or Teboura.

BTW don't you live in Manchester? Do you come to every game or just the BIG games?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheSaintsSoothsayer[/bold] wrote: Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed? I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great! Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree. We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong. Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?[/p][/quote]Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind.[/p][/quote]Dear oh dear, talk about blinkered. Wonder what Pompey supporters, who were in the Premiere League, winning cups and flying high (remember, everyone thought the club was being well run because results were good on the pitch) would say about Storey et al? Why so sarcastic? Cuddly family club? Did I say 'Cuddly'? There are many clubs who remember their history whereas Mr Cortese thinks it started in 2009. No, the programme sellers were sacked by text message just days before a home game. Dolly birds, attractive agency staff, what's the difference. Are you trying to give me a history lesson? I know full well Nigel duid not leave under a cloud. He did a fantastic job for which Southampton FC only to be repaid by having to take his claim for unfair dismissal to the LMA (that's the league managers association) so they could take it up on his behalf. During this time he couldn't take up another post. When it was due to go to court Mr Cortyese paid up with £500,000 - was that enough? No, I don't think so. Not for what he achieved. He certainly went with my thanks. Lack of sell outs down to ticket prices - that'll be the CEO's decision then? Away teams like Swansea & Palace have taken full allocations.. You misconstrued my comments when I asked what people might say when NC leaves. Thank you would not be my choice of words. I am not borer, bourer or Teboura. BTW don't you live in Manchester? Do you come to every game or just the BIG games? TheSaintsSoothsayer

7:14pm Sun 13 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

TheSaintsSoothsayer wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TheSaintsSoothsayer wrote:
Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed?

I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great!

Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree.

We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong.

Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?
Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind.
Dear oh dear, talk about blinkered.

Wonder what Pompey supporters, who were in the Premiere League, winning cups and flying high (remember, everyone thought the club was being well run because results were good on the pitch) would say about Storey et al?

Why so sarcastic? Cuddly family club? Did I say 'Cuddly'? There are many clubs who remember their history whereas Mr Cortese thinks it started in 2009.

No, the programme sellers were sacked by text message just days before a home game. Dolly birds, attractive agency staff, what's the difference.

Are you trying to give me a history lesson? I know full well Nigel duid not leave under a cloud. He did a fantastic job for which Southampton FC only to be repaid by having to take his claim for unfair dismissal to the LMA (that's the league managers association) so they could take it up on his behalf. During this time he couldn't take up another post. When it was due to go to court Mr Cortyese paid up with £500,000 - was that enough? No, I don't think so. Not for what he achieved. He certainly went with my thanks.

Lack of sell outs down to ticket prices - that'll be the CEO's decision then?

Away teams like Swansea & Palace have taken full allocations..

You misconstrued my comments when I asked what people might say when NC leaves. Thank you would not be my choice of words.
I am not borer, bourer or Teboura.

BTW don't you live in Manchester? Do you come to every game or just the BIG games?
Cheeky sod, everyone on here knows I am a Season Ticket holder and have been supporting the Saints since the 1950's, that is why am blinkered, I know the difference between bad times and good times. Who gives a toss what Pompey think about Storey, they made their bed and have lie in it. The current history of our Club revolves around the day that Markus Liebherr saved us from destruction, anything before that is like shipping records before the Titanic sank. Swansea were 2,000 short of their offered allocation, hence the big gap between the two factions in the Northam.

So you would say good riddance if Nicola Cortese left us, if I read you correctly, you are not grateful that he was the prime mover in rescuing us? You may not be The Borer but you are the same wavelength and you are entitled for whatever your personal reasons to hold the same views, I think like The Borer you are in a lone furrow. In my opinion by the way, others would probably side with you perhaps.

Me, yes I am blinkered and proud to be, we are 4th in the Premier League, why should I not be?
[quote][p][bold]TheSaintsSoothsayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheSaintsSoothsayer[/bold] wrote: Perhaps someone will tell me why my comment was removed? I'll say again: It seems to most people that as long as things are OK on the pitch then he's doing a good job - not always the case you know. I don't think this club is anywhere near the family club it once was. There's a coldness about it - a hard nosed, business orientated, over priced beer, snacks, replica shirts & merchandise and agency dolly birds selling oversized programmes - and that's just on the face of it! Sacked programme sellers, managers and employees. But everything is OK on the pitch so it's great! Yes, being 4th is brilliant I agree. We haven't had a sell out this year so calls above for an increase in the capacity of St Mary's are wrong. Wonder what everyone will say when he leaves us?[/p][/quote]Correct, as long as things are going well it means he must be doing something right. No this Club is no longer a cuddly family outfit any more, tell me of one Premier Club that is, there are still plenty of families attending games. You sound like The Borer, Programme sellers sacked? No, the volunteers were released so that it could be handled within house, and your comment about "dolly birds" is not bourn out by the attractive staff that are doing the job. Sacked Managers, again replaced because the Management thought they could find a better solution, NA didn't go out under a cloud, he went, having done a very good job, preparing us for the next step. Most managers go out having failed to produce the goods, NA went with the thanks of the fans, not them baying for his removal as happens to most managers. It is a CEO's perogative to pick his employees to do the jobs required, anyone not meeting the right criteria are released. You are correct about the merchandise e.t.c. being overpriced, that IMO is the down side of being financially succesful, it is up to the fans not to buy the stuff if they feel that strongly about it. I suspect the lack of sell outs is more down to the cost than the lack of desire to go, also keep moving the games isn't helping, and we haven't played any of the "top" half dozen teams yet, and away teams aren't taking up their full quota. All Home games have had over 28,000 and not always the same people, some just cannot get to every game. What will people say when he leaves us? "Thank you" comes to mind.[/p][/quote]Dear oh dear, talk about blinkered. Wonder what Pompey supporters, who were in the Premiere League, winning cups and flying high (remember, everyone thought the club was being well run because results were good on the pitch) would say about Storey et al? Why so sarcastic? Cuddly family club? Did I say 'Cuddly'? There are many clubs who remember their history whereas Mr Cortese thinks it started in 2009. No, the programme sellers were sacked by text message just days before a home game. Dolly birds, attractive agency staff, what's the difference. Are you trying to give me a history lesson? I know full well Nigel duid not leave under a cloud. He did a fantastic job for which Southampton FC only to be repaid by having to take his claim for unfair dismissal to the LMA (that's the league managers association) so they could take it up on his behalf. During this time he couldn't take up another post. When it was due to go to court Mr Cortyese paid up with £500,000 - was that enough? No, I don't think so. Not for what he achieved. He certainly went with my thanks. Lack of sell outs down to ticket prices - that'll be the CEO's decision then? Away teams like Swansea & Palace have taken full allocations.. You misconstrued my comments when I asked what people might say when NC leaves. Thank you would not be my choice of words. I am not borer, bourer or Teboura. BTW don't you live in Manchester? Do you come to every game or just the BIG games?[/p][/quote]Cheeky sod, everyone on here knows I am a Season Ticket holder and have been supporting the Saints since the 1950's, that is why am blinkered, I know the difference between bad times and good times. Who gives a toss what Pompey think about Storey, they made their bed and have lie in it. The current history of our Club revolves around the day that Markus Liebherr saved us from destruction, anything before that is like shipping records before the Titanic sank. Swansea were 2,000 short of their offered allocation, hence the big gap between the two factions in the Northam. So you would say good riddance if Nicola Cortese left us, if I read you correctly, you are not grateful that he was the prime mover in rescuing us? You may not be The Borer but you are the same wavelength and you are entitled for whatever your personal reasons to hold the same views, I think like The Borer you are in a lone furrow. In my opinion by the way, others would probably side with you perhaps. Me, yes I am blinkered and proud to be, we are 4th in the Premier League, why should I not be? OSPREYSAINT

7:26pm Sun 13 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

The issue of Premier League ticket prices has been mentioned, are we at Southampton being overcharged in you opinion? Could the blame lie with the Premier League itself which could cap the maximum if they saw fit to do so, but are they frightened of the strength of the "top" Clubs who would reject any interference in their "cash cow"? What is the criteria for price setting?
The issue of Premier League ticket prices has been mentioned, are we at Southampton being overcharged in you opinion? Could the blame lie with the Premier League itself which could cap the maximum if they saw fit to do so, but are they frightened of the strength of the "top" Clubs who would reject any interference in their "cash cow"? What is the criteria for price setting? OSPREYSAINT

12:07pm Mon 14 Oct 13

TheSaintsSoothsayer says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The issue of Premier League ticket prices has been mentioned, are we at Southampton being overcharged in you opinion? Could the blame lie with the Premier League itself which could cap the maximum if they saw fit to do so, but are they frightened of the strength of the "top" Clubs who would reject any interference in their "cash cow"? What is the criteria for price setting?
I'm talking about the Carling cup game with Bristol City. Their fans were charged £10 for the game. Saints fans were charged £18 and that has nothing to do with FA or Pl.

Every club has also received £200k to help ease fans expenses. You may have seen some clubs laying on free transport for their fans. Southampton have done nothing with their £200k - yet!

As a lifelong Saints fan of course I am grateful that the Liebherrs came in an bought the club. This club, because of the money the Liebherrs have pumped in, is an attractive investment for anyone with the money should the liebherrs wish to pull out. Regards Mr Cortese leaving, there will be a lot of people who will be thankful he's gone but who will also say that he did a decent job in taking it up another level.

But, don't be fooled into thinking that because we're 4th and because we're getting some good results that everything in the garden is rosy - it isn't!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The issue of Premier League ticket prices has been mentioned, are we at Southampton being overcharged in you opinion? Could the blame lie with the Premier League itself which could cap the maximum if they saw fit to do so, but are they frightened of the strength of the "top" Clubs who would reject any interference in their "cash cow"? What is the criteria for price setting?[/p][/quote]I'm talking about the Carling cup game with Bristol City. Their fans were charged £10 for the game. Saints fans were charged £18 and that has nothing to do with FA or Pl. Every club has also received £200k to help ease fans expenses. You may have seen some clubs laying on free transport for their fans. Southampton have done nothing with their £200k - yet! As a lifelong Saints fan of course I am grateful that the Liebherrs came in an bought the club. This club, because of the money the Liebherrs have pumped in, is an attractive investment for anyone with the money should the liebherrs wish to pull out. Regards Mr Cortese leaving, there will be a lot of people who will be thankful he's gone but who will also say that he did a decent job in taking it up another level. But, don't be fooled into thinking that because we're 4th and because we're getting some good results that everything in the garden is rosy - it isn't! TheSaintsSoothsayer

12:56pm Mon 14 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

What relevance has the Carling Cup game got to do with filling the Stadium for Premiership matches? Yes, it was overpriced for us but that didn't stop me finding enough to get there, they only opened part of the Ground knowing it would not be full and had to balance things to get the best financial benefit. I would like to have seen some kind of gesture to attract youngsters along, but it wasn't deemed sensible.
I think you may find that the £200k that the Club received has been used to stop the charge used for Credit Card transactions, but I haven't seen anything on paper yet.
Why do you think we are 4th in the table is it through the failings of others or that we have been overperforming?
Of course we shouldn't take anything for granted, we are Saints supporters, there will never be an easy ride, there is always something or someone that wants to upset the apple cart, a lot of the Press resent the fact that we are having a litlle bit of success and are even now looking for skeletons in the cupboard to cause us agro. That's par for the course. A good example is the current thread about Gaston Ramirez, the guy is obviously upset as he isn't getting in the first team, other players are keeping him out, he likes Nicola it is said, but is unhappy with MoPo, how surprising is that? He is 22 plenty of time to learn and cope with the Premier should he chose that route, but if not a return to the Continent won't be a disaster for us as long as we recoup some of the outlay.
What relevance has the Carling Cup game got to do with filling the Stadium for Premiership matches? Yes, it was overpriced for us but that didn't stop me finding enough to get there, they only opened part of the Ground knowing it would not be full and had to balance things to get the best financial benefit. I would like to have seen some kind of gesture to attract youngsters along, but it wasn't deemed sensible. I think you may find that the £200k that the Club received has been used to stop the charge used for Credit Card transactions, but I haven't seen anything on paper yet. Why do you think we are 4th in the table is it through the failings of others or that we have been overperforming? Of course we shouldn't take anything for granted, we are Saints supporters, there will never be an easy ride, there is always something or someone that wants to upset the apple cart, a lot of the Press resent the fact that we are having a litlle bit of success and are even now looking for skeletons in the cupboard to cause us agro. That's par for the course. A good example is the current thread about Gaston Ramirez, the guy is obviously upset as he isn't getting in the first team, other players are keeping him out, he likes Nicola it is said, but is unhappy with MoPo, how surprising is that? He is 22 plenty of time to learn and cope with the Premier should he chose that route, but if not a return to the Continent won't be a disaster for us as long as we recoup some of the outlay. OSPREYSAINT

1:19pm Mon 14 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/24
446082

and http://www.not606.co
m/showthread.php/226
041-£200k-grant-for
-Saints-away-support
ers/page2

That is all that I could find on the £200k grant, anyone know any different?
http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/24 446082 and http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/226 041-£200k-grant-for -Saints-away-support ers/page2 That is all that I could find on the £200k grant, anyone know any different? OSPREYSAINT

5:05pm Mon 14 Oct 13

right back in the bar says...

All this cringing and fawning over Cortese - the guy's a banker. Give credit to the spine of the team that has got us where we are now - Fonte, Spider, AL and Sir RL and the players who have come through the academy. Sure Cortese laid the platform but he knows a good thing when he sees it; the players have gone out and done it and the fans have been behind them. Change the bloody catering.
All this cringing and fawning over Cortese - the guy's a banker. Give credit to the spine of the team that has got us where we are now - Fonte, Spider, AL and Sir RL and the players who have come through the academy. Sure Cortese laid the platform but he knows a good thing when he sees it; the players have gone out and done it and the fans have been behind them. Change the bloody catering. right back in the bar

5:48pm Mon 14 Oct 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I haven't see any cringing or fawning, just apprecation, no one I know actually likes the guy, but that is mostly down to our complete lack of knowledge about him. Much rather have a CEO that quietly gets on with the job than one that constantly shouts his mouth of while getting things totally wrong. I don't go to St. Marys to sample the cuisine, could do without it and I wouldn't miss it.
I haven't see any cringing or fawning, just apprecation, no one I know actually likes the guy, but that is mostly down to our complete lack of knowledge about him. Much rather have a CEO that quietly gets on with the job than one that constantly shouts his mouth of while getting things totally wrong. I don't go to St. Marys to sample the cuisine, could do without it and I wouldn't miss it. OSPREYSAINT

4:30pm Wed 16 Oct 13

hamblepoint says...

In July I placed a tenner on Saints to win the Premiership this season at 2000 to 1 and a tenner at 250 to 1 to finish in the top four - the bookie behind the counter thought I was out of my mind. Happy times!
In July I placed a tenner on Saints to win the Premiership this season at 2000 to 1 and a tenner at 250 to 1 to finish in the top four - the bookie behind the counter thought I was out of my mind. Happy times! hamblepoint

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